Arena Open Draft 2: When In Doubt, Jund 'Em Out

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  • @coyotemoon722
    @coyotemoon722 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +117

    This used to be a Smoky Lounge channel... 😢

  • @haumph
    @haumph 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +98

    Tabling Beastie Beatdown when it was one of 3 first pick quality cards is outrageous. Could you tell me what time during the 2 hour draft window you joined this draft? Asking for a friend.

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      That was nice lol

    • @TH-dg2mm
      @TH-dg2mm 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My two favourite drafters interacting, I'm a little moist rn excuse me.

    • @OMGWYATT
      @OMGWYATT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They’ve been good friends for over a decade lol

    • @DadsDrafts
      @DadsDrafts 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For me, surely.. 🥲

    • @aldeayeah
      @aldeayeah 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@OMGWYATT closer to 20 years now

  • @mossemalm
    @mossemalm 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Lol, got this in my feed two minutes after it was uploaded. Such a joy to see you drafting this set LSV, please keep going!

  • @lesternomo6578
    @lesternomo6578 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    no idea if it's actually true but spineseeker centipede has to be lsv's most picked card in this set

  • @EltWilder
    @EltWilder 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Those Inspectors in the last game never looked better.

  • @calebburney7861
    @calebburney7861 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Hey LSV, I recently found your channel and have been enjoying all the Duskmourn drafts immensely (it helps to learn a new format to have consistent streams from someone very knowledgeable). Just a small suggestion along the lines of the occasional comments about camera placement -- I think the best place would be just above your deck and graveyard, about where your mascot goes; I think that area is typically clear. Good luck in this draft I'm about to start watching.

  • @madlulz
    @madlulz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    LSV got those paid actors in his pod.

  • @imGrisky
    @imGrisky 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Such a nice deck, should have gone all the way! Grats on the prize money

  • @KaiWoHana
    @KaiWoHana 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Keep it up man, i seriously love all the content you post, and i am way more into the vids with formats that you clearly enjoy. Hope all is well!

  • @Waghabond
    @Waghabond 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm still not sold on the swarm weaver being better than ballustrade wurm here. It feels like a persistent 5/5 hastey threat probably plays better alongside all you other haste beatdown right?
    Also the terramorphic expanse over fear of evposure was interesting - i think your pick was probably correct because you had swarm weaver but fear of exposure is pretty excellent IMO specifically in gruul. Gruul has the best 1 drops which make that deck quite good at curving into a t3 FOE.

  • @K3150
    @K3150 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    When you conceded at 51:00 why didn’t kill the hallcreeper with the fungus?

    • @brianh5844
      @brianh5844 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I think the short answer is he was tilted by his opponent's draw (particularly the valgavoth's onlaught) and he felt really far behind, so he wasn't fully in it at that point and was already defeated mentally.
      I think for a $500 match you may as well keep playing even if the chances are very slim. You never know, you could hit the .1% where your opponent hits a pocket of 10 lands and you draw straight gas the rest of the game. Also, I think that turn would have probably gone better if LSV wasn't on tilt and not fully concentrating as a result. I mean, if you click the right room to start, you get to cast fomo, potentially draw another play, *and* kill their hallcreeper. You're still behind on cards and your opponent has repeatable sources of value in play, but if they don't have another manifest and you draw into removal or your bomb rare, the tides could have easily swung.
      All that said, don't mean to be too critical. The early concessions are a bit of a hobby horse for me because I like seeing unlikely comebacks and it feels like LSV used to have a bit more fighting spirit in that regard. Also, when I watch others stick it out in grim situations, I'm more likely to do the same. If you watch a lot of Reid Duke, for example, you're just going to concede less early. That said, it was a great run nonetheless and I'm happy to have LSV doing daily content.

    • @GuillaumePoulin
      @GuillaumePoulin 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Three lands in hand, no more board presence, facing 9 dmg, being at 9 life, opponent at 20 with 5 cards, knowing your deck and knowing nothing can change the state of the game. Keep your mental energy for the next game.

    • @brianh5844
      @brianh5844 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@GuillaumePoulin see my comment above: I don't think this game was actually unwinnable. It was not likely, but if he takes the correct line that turn he's definitely got outs. He gets to loot away a land with fomo, kill his opponent's best threat, and potentially even draw into another play with the loot. And he absolutely has cards left in the deck that can turn it around (his 2nd best card in the set bomb rare especially).
      I think when chances get below .5% or so, saving mental energy may make sense. But anything above that (and I do think this was, his opponent could easily have lands in hand for example) and I think it's worth playing it out.

    • @g8le
      @g8le 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@brianh5844 Where do you come up with those numbers. Above 0.5% is worth staying in, below is worth saving mental energy? Are you some sort of sage? Lmao ridiculous

    • @coyotemoon722
      @coyotemoon722 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @K3150 yeah he just didn't see the play. I was wondering the same

  • @The1337Wookyman
    @The1337Wookyman 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cutting Zealot instead of Prize set off a lot of deckbuilding introspection into my own play and strategies. I would never have seen that route. Always something to learn.

  • @AmberH-k6f
    @AmberH-k6f 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "When in doubt, Jund 'em out" - Copyright LoadingReadyRun. And Graham has made it clear he'll send his lawyers. Because that's the type of man Graham Stark is.

  • @patrickgonzales7825
    @patrickgonzales7825 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a great run and a sad ending at the same time. I think your deck has a really great chance of winning. But the lack of early removal and sorcery to enable fast delirium surely hurt you there. 1 say its name would have gone a long way for this deck. In any case, Congrats in cashing in! Hope you continue to put Duskmourn draft content in YT.

  • @joeykeizer1017
    @joeykeizer1017 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 3cmc 5/4 trample you passed is a enchantment creature

  • @MrBrizzennen
    @MrBrizzennen 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Heck yeah, draftin time!

    • @williamtessmer8123
      @williamtessmer8123 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Google is offering to "translate to English". Absolutely hilarious.

  • @geefron
    @geefron 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At 34:40 you slowly get to watch every card in play and hand for LSV get to delirium.

  • @memyself3510
    @memyself3510 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the “worn” card backs

  • @samedens1385
    @samedens1385 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Spineseeker centipedecells rise up

  • @DadsDrafts
    @DadsDrafts 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At 53:37, you could sacrafice the creature that had Stay hidden stay silent on it, to prevent them from manifesting dread next turn. Is the reason you didn't do that because you find that a overall weak thing to do on turn 6? Or because you wanted to expand the board.

  • @1st_edition
    @1st_edition 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow I wouldn't have thought the gremlin was way better than the manifest dread 3 drop. I've seen that thing just win games if unaswered

  • @flashjack711
    @flashjack711 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember Beastie Beatdown wheeling in the first pack when I drafted and I got passed second pick Balustrade Wurm, wonder if we were sitting next to each other during the second draft. Did you jump into queues right after they opened?

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah just about

  • @DadsDrafts
    @DadsDrafts 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That 8th pick Fear of abduction in pack 3 though...

  • @grkles7640
    @grkles7640 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Suggestion for your cube: pollywog prodigy

  • @Enragedmonkey8
    @Enragedmonkey8 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks so much for the draft content! Any chance we will see any duskmourne alchemy? Some of the cards in there are WILD , fear of change has been hilarious , got a mythic 4 drop white dragon off it one game turn 3 was still a very tight game. 😂

  • @glasseagle8368
    @glasseagle8368 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Same thumbnail as two days ago had me thinking it was a reupload by accident 😂

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Oops haha

  • @SlippinJimmy007
    @SlippinJimmy007 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Grats on the 5 hundo!

  • @roahe
    @roahe 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congrats, that GB too nice

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤝

  • @uselesscommon7761
    @uselesscommon7761 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Up against Black White mid. Extremely mid.” LMAO. Not midrange, just mid.

  • @walkertrull
    @walkertrull 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool 500 bones

  • @gippygames
    @gippygames 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It was funny seeing LSV rag on Soul Warden for the entire game when it ended up gaining 16 life for the opponent

    • @jeff-ns2zj
      @jeff-ns2zj 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, hilarious. Especially since the 16 life had zero effect on the outcome and any generic creature would have been better.

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah it’s not really a good card

  • @JorgeGomezYT
    @JorgeGomezYT 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    29:51 Could we not kill the Flytrap with Beastie Beatdown?

    • @yogzi
      @yogzi 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      it would come back with surgical suite

  • @WPS578
    @WPS578 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    50:51 couldn't the fungus kill the creeper there?

    • @DiviTon
      @DiviTon วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, I think he likely just missed that it was an Enchantment Creature. Still super unlikely for him to win that game even if he caught that, but it would have been nice to see.

  • @DROEHN
    @DROEHN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    not sure you'd seen it yet, but in the very last match at around 56:30, you actually have the win here assuming opponent doesn't add to the board:
    you block their attackers, chumping twice, then saccing the two chumpers to the skinripper, adding two +1/+1 counters to it, thus have it surviving combat.
    you take 4 from the manifests, end of turn skinripper deals 2 to opp's face, bringing them to 4.
    on your turn you attack for 2 in the air, then saccing the two tokens to the skinripper, to deal 2 to opp's face bringing them to 0.

    • @EvilRoman7
      @EvilRoman7 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      skinripper doesnt ping when you sac things on your opponents turn. also im not sure what turn you are actually talking about

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That’s not how skinripper works

    • @nickadoo
      @nickadoo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The skinripper EOT ping only happens on your end step, not theirs unfortunately - good line otherwise

    • @DROEHN
      @DROEHN 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      apologies, my bad 🫠

  • @Tuturial464
    @Tuturial464 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    U didn't tell me Reid was playing

  • @laurentbial2055
    @laurentbial2055 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Likes centipede too much :)

    • @MarkChaney-b8k
      @MarkChaney-b8k 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well green is the best color in the set .

  • @solmarcurtiss
    @solmarcurtiss 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That first opponents deck was bafflingly bad.

  • @TheJMFG
    @TheJMFG 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    love watching you draft Luis! But standard stuff it's not my cup of tea. I hope Vintage cube gets back ASAP. Greetings from Argentina

  • @udhh2619
    @udhh2619 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you ever retire from playing your voice and knowledge would be perfect for commentary

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Maybe I’ll try to give commentary a spin sometime, sounds interesting 🧐

  • @jorism244
    @jorism244 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I miss cube