Massey Ferguson 2860M eHydro Deluxe Cab Premium Compact Utility Tractor
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- 2860M is the Largest Hydrostat Model produced by Massey Ferguson at 60.3 Gross Engine HP. In this video we discuss the features of the Electronic Controlled Servo eHydrostat Transmission plus all the features of the tractor and the Deluxe Cab Option Available only on eHydro model. Learn more at www.masseyferguson.com or find your local dealer at: www.masseyferg...
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I just took delivery of my 2860M hydro about three weeks ago. Due to shortage of some components I don’t have the paid for third function on it yet. Grapple is on order from Everything Attachments, so I’m ok without for now. I’m an old clutch and transmission guy, and was wondering if I did right going to the hydro. I LIKE it! Found that Snail mode will really let the loader cut the dirt well! Turtle mode is just about right in the field work. Have not had it in Hare mode yet. Thanks for the tip on using the cruise control and using the hydro control pedal to “catch” the speed and then smoothly decrease speed rather than the abrupt stop that happens if you push the button or hit the brakes. Also a good tip on using the single brake and building back pressure on slopes to prevent rolling the wrong direction. I suspect that trick works well when going either forward or reverse? I’ll try it. Had the AC on today with outside temp of 90 and very comfy inside the standard cab. Have not found anything I dislike about this tractor. With its size and capability it is on the high end of a Compact tractor. It does a lot of things a traditional Utility tractor would do. Thanks for all your videos. Helped me buy Massey F. No buyers remorse here!
Thanks for the AWESOME Review. That is good information and what we are hearing from our customers too. There is shortage on 3rd Function Kits...some guy did videos on them and with the high demand for Massey Ferguson Tractors in 2021 has created a supply issue. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on our video.
Nice presentation, highly informative, thanks for posting.
Glad it was helpful!
Great, simple review! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I was looking at the 2600H series and noticed it didn’t use the DPF..I also noticed the H series was pretty much all mechanical, which in my opinion is more reliable in that long run. My question is why the are these tractors equipped with the DPF while other MF tractors similar HP are not.
I currently run a 2018 Kioti 40 HP. In the future I’d consider the MF if I decide to upgrade. Great video, keep ‘em coming.
2800M are Stage 5 Level Emission (Coming to North America soon already in enforcement in Europe). AGCO made the decision because the writing was already on the wall when they developed the 2800M to forgo meeting just Tier 4 and Got to Stage 5 when it invested in helping ISEKI bring their engine back to market. They decided on a DPF Filter and Regen as the means to Meet Stage 5 Emissions.
2600H series Engine is clean enough to meet Tier 4 Emissions without REGEN, Diesel Particulate Filter or need for Diesel Exhaust Fluid. Uses EGR Exhaust Gas Recirculation. Depends on the Engine and how much soot (particulate Matter) or NOx (Nitrous Oxide) Gases an engine produces if it needs After Treatment. The 2600H does not require any after treatment systems. Also there are several Tiers with the Tier 4 Level less than 25 Engine HP, 25 to 75 Engine HP, 75 to 150 Engine HP and 150 Engine HP and above each one of these levels have different levels of Particulate Matters and NOx Gas Levels the engine can omit.
I have a 2860M hydro, and I love it. My only complaint is the auto throttle, specifically the fact that you can not disable it. Their are times when you don't want the tractor to change the RPM, you just want to adjust your ground speed. I can list at least 4 different scenarios. If you know a way to disable it, I would love to hear it. All other manufactures that offer auto throttle have a way to disable it, why wouldn't Massey?
You can set the Manual Throttle to Minimum RPM and auto throttle will only work above that. My personal tractor I own has AutoThrottle and I can't think of a time I would want it disabled.
@@VahrenbergImplement Well, I can give a couple, when tedding hay, you need to adjust ground speed separate from the PTO. when I'm tilling and I get to the end of a row and I am traveling across the end of the garden empty and want to hurry across. When you travel down the road and you want to put the hydro pedal to the max. but not run 2700 RPMs. When you store it inside a shop but want to pull it outside to warm up, the moment you touch the hydro pedal it revs the engine. I can go on, but you get the idea. Most of the time auto throttle is just fine, but there are times when it is a nuisance, and I would like the option to disable it. There is no doubt that it is possible for Massey to have a way to disable it. I wish they would offer it.
1) Tiling Example that is where AutoThrottle shines it will help get you there faster because the higher the throttle the faster you will travel. 2) Road Travel: If your running that fast you need more throttle or you'll be stalling the hydrostat at low rpm. 3) Use a lower range and it will not put as much load and not raise the RPMs with Autothrottle. How much are you willing to pay to Turn On/Off Auto Throttle? It's going to add more expense to the manufacturing of the tractor and not sure most if not all my customers would find any value in turning it off, probably the second most loved feature behind ground leveling fueling we get comments about to customers that own tractors with autothrottle.
@@VahrenbergImplement I am not looking to debate you on how great autothrottle is. Massey Ferguson's Autothrottle is not load sensing, it is preset in relation to the pedal position it has no idea if the tractor is pulling a load or just rolling out of the shed that is why It is not the perfect solution every time, that is why all other manufactures ( I don't believe they have load sensing either) let you shut it off. 1) Tilling, I do want to move faster, but I'm not willing to rev the engine to the max to do it. (no load). 2) Road travel,(no load again) I don't stall the hydrostat, there is a happy medium between hydro position and throttle, experienced operators can hear, feel it. 3) pulling out of the shed to warm up. Using a lower range makes no difference, again not load sensing. I am not bashing Massey, I was raised on them. If I had the option to turn of Autothrottle it would be perfect, If I could disable it permanently, I would rather do that. Just let your Rep. know that giving an override option instead of dumbing it down to the masses may be a better answer. I have probably watched every video that you have posted on the Massey compacts, you do a great job and have great content. Please keep it up. I am just hoping someone can help me find a way to override this option. Or may sure another buyer understands fully how it works.
What type of hydraulic oil do these tractors use , Just bought a 2850M shuttle shift about a month ago what a great tractor i love it , got 18 hrs on a tank of fuel not even topped off i think that was pretty good , plenty of power for what i am doing , Waiting on the second & third remote kits hopefully i get them this year , There is one thing i think needs to be corrected on a 2800 series Massey Ferguson tractors with shuttle shift the brake pedal is too close to the foot throttle i got a big foot & when its on the foot throttle my foot is under the right brake pedal i guess if you had a size 6 shoe it wouldn't be so bad, other than that
i really like it cold AC. good responsive hydraulics, The neighbors i haven't talked in over 2 years seen it & stopped by to check it out i think they went home to ask the wives if they were allowed to buy one too , I do like it so much to i might buy another one a little bigger next year I am one of those guys that needs two of everything Ha Ha.
AGCO Parts PermaTranIII/821XL Hydraulic Transmission Fluid is the OEM Fluid and what we use.
Nice tractor maybe one day I can get one
They sure are nice and hope you get to enjoy one sooner than later.
Does the dome light come on when you open the door
It's a 3 Position Switch OFF, ON or On when you open either door.
If I ever got the chance to own some land I would buy a Massey ferguson but I live in Canada 🇨🇦 and would have to go to a Canadian dealership.
Yes, exactly always best to work with local dealer. Hope your dreams come true of owning your own acreage.
Just curious, does the 2800M series have fender mounted 3 point controls? I've been spoiled having large tractors that have them.
The 2800M does not offer 3 Point Controls on the Fender. Only PTO Start/Stop option. 4700 & Up Series offers 3 Point Controls but that is larger series and models
Love the tractor ! Would love to check one out and get some prices. Huge problem - The Dealer search on Massey Ferguson website is terrible ! Doesn’t even show your dealership on there. Not having a problem finding other manufacturers but I am a fan of the new M series. Do you have any input on the lack of dealers or the lack of listings on the website ???
I appreciate your videos and the features you cover in them. Thank you
You put in the zip code for the search and it provides the closest dealers to you. Are you near west central Missouri? We only sale in West Central Missouri were we can service what we sell. It's always best to purchase from local dealer so you can get service if you would ever need it.
@@VahrenbergImplement yes sir , I’ve tried my zip code and others all around me . Literally shows “zero results”
I even just put Alabama in there and it shows one dealer in the whole state that’s in Montgomery.
Do you know of any dealers in South Alabama or South Mississippi at all ?
I appreciate you selling only in your service area , it’s just Too bad you’re not nearby, ha , thanks again
Put in search then below click distance. I chose 150 miles and several dealers in south Alabama/Mississippi showed up. Atlantic & Southern has store in Dothan, Alabama (South Eastern AL), Watts Brother in Columbia, MS. Or Call AGCO Answers they can help too: 877-525-4384
Another great video.. what disappoints me is they are putting those r4 tires on everything it seems. If you were new to tractors and didn't know any better you'd be disappointed with those slick r4's. I wish r4 tires were the optional ones not the r1. Keep up the good work.
You can choose which tires to order. Customer wanted R4 Tires and what we have requested the most is R4 Tires. You can have Turf, Industrial or Ag Tires. Are number #1 selling tire is the R4 Industrial Tires.
@@VahrenbergImplement oh yeah I mean what I generally see at most dealers when everyone had stock was the r4's unless it was 75+ hp. IMO you shouldn't have r4's on a tractor you plan to do something with other than cutting grass. I guess my years of farming and land clearing has just taught me say no to r4's if you plan on working with your tractor and not cruising on it like a Cadillac.
R4 Industrial is the compromise between turf and ag. They are less aggressive on grass but still have traction & mud cleanout ability just not as much as Ag Tires. Ag Tires work off grass...the construction industry uses them on all their equipment and it is' off road. Ag Tires can be more aggressive than people want for their needs and they choose the tire that meets their needs. We sell very few AG Tires as they are over aggressive for most peoples needs in the smaller compacts and small utility tractors.
@@VahrenbergImplement love those Galaxy AG tires they are great
Since it is a quicke loader, any chance to get a mechanic self leveling loader like their C18S, or a conversion for the FL 2814? Can we get the FL 2811 loader in the US?
At this time Mechanical Self Leveling in not available in North America. I keep requesting it on my Wish List. Be a great option for Massey Ferguson Compacts .
It's amazing they don't make it available here since they already have it available in other countries. It would be an easy selling feature to make the loader standout from others in its class.
I've been requesting for several years. It will come some day. Quicke use to have an add on system for Self Leveling and that would be the cats meow. Sell as aftermarket attachment and it was reasonable but I think even Quicke stopped that add on kit but they over Standard or Self Level Loaders. I know Australia requires all loaders to be self leveling. Maybe some day we can get them in the states.
Absolutely a great tractor I just prefer the shuttle transmission instead because it's just more handier for me I hope to be in the market to be purchasing a 2855 M series with a cab shuttle trans with a loader and of course front fenders to keep stones and dirt from damaging the glass on the front of the cab
We done video on the Massey Ferguson 2860M Power Shuttle too: th-cam.com/video/fI6vPTBOazI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qLbw27-jkbt4W3JS we haven't sold 2855M Power Shuttle yet but is another choice in tractors too.
@VahrenbergImplement THANK YOU However I did see your video on the 2860M series shuttle version and it was a nice detailed video too . In my opinion I think that both variations are great tractors . I just like the shuttle version better because it's like running a big front end loader. I like the 2855 because of the numbers 2800 because of the old 2805 V8 MASSEY years ago and the 1155 of the second gen.of the V8 . I have my dad's old 1150 V8 MASSEY THATS WHY I LIKE THE NUMBERS OF THE 2855 .
I should trade my b2650 kubota in on one of those. I could definitely use more power for snow blowing.
Be have been trading for lots of competitive brands for new Massey Ferguson Tractors recently. Orange, Blue, Green and the other Reds too.
Doug - I am looking at this exact tractor. Is it a good move to get the mid mount PTO right away?
Mid PTO is pretty expensive options and we sell very few here in Missouri. What are you going to use the MidPTO for? Snow Blower is only reason I see to get on 2860M.
@@VahrenbergImplement Was just thinking of future flexibility
Yes Front Broom too can use the Mid PTO. We have sold one of those. Be interesting to see more Front Mounted Implements in the Future but there is not many uses in the midwest here.
What is the price range?
Best thing is to contact your local dealer for Current Sale Promotion and Low Rate Financing Options. Due to Public Pricing Policies we can only supply MSRP (List Price) as of 8/22/22 List Price on 2860M Deluxe Cab eHydro with Loader is $48,799.22 but visit your local dealer for exact pricing. If in West Central Missouri near Kansas City contact us at Vahrenberg Implement if out side our sales area here is dealer locator to find your dealer: www.masseyferguson.com/en_us.html#dealer-locator
OMG! NO WAY IT COMES WITH THAT TOOLBOX! WOW!
You be surprised how some other brands its an optional purchase.
And it comes with a top link too. How generous is that. BONUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debating between a MF2860 and a kubota grand l6060
We've been trading for several late model Kubota lately. Both are good models but everyone we have sold the 2860M to absolutely loves them. Good luck in making your decision for whats best for you.
@@VahrenbergImplement have you heard of any issues with the kubotas grand l series models?
I don't like talking negative about other products but I have had several customers tell me they have had issues that needed servicing like hydrostat transmission that we have not had with the Massey Ferguson. And it's not just one transmission. But you never get the whole story either...How Did they Maintain>? What Oils did they Use? How did they use it? Can all effect service life. We started selling Massey Ferguson in 2007 and we not had to work on single Hydro we have sold.
Andy go Massey and you'll be happy
After owning my new 2860M now for about 9 months I am very happy with it. Only possible improvement I would suggest is having an oil pressure gauge. I am sure the electronics are monitoring oil anyway, so not a big issue. Here is a video link with a Anything attachment’s root grapple, that I really like. th-cam.com/video/AUA4Lb6-PnI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the comments and yes Grapples are a great addition to tractors. We sell lots of the RhinoAG & Worksaver Grapples and ALO Quicke 4-N-1 Buckets which are even more awesome for many of the tractors we sell here at our dealership. This is a little "Amateur" Operator learning Grappling with a AGR60 Grapple. th-cam.com/video/6VUtVYxc1sk/w-d-xo.html
Does Massey Ferguson not let you fix your tractors like John Deere?
Anyone can work on there tractor. For 2021 Massey Ferguson has started rolling out programs for the customer to rent diagnostic equipment to perform their own repairs. Has started on the Global Series for 2021 Massey Ferguson Tractors. Doesn't tell you how to fix it that is what dealers pay for Service School Training for their mechanics but you can rent the diagnostic tool and try it yourself. Right to Repair is very misleading like many things the media has done, 99.9% of the customers are not going to mess with internal computer codes and that was what Deere wanted to protect is their Intellectual Property and the media twisted it out of context. IP is just like Microsoft Operating Systems you use on your computer.
So your saying Massey Ferguson rents tools and programs to help fix your tractor?
Massey Ferguson offers an Electronic Diagnostic Tool Rental Program that can be rented from them to help farmers who wish to attempt to do their own repairs. The Only Massey Ferguson Models currently available with the NEW Diagnostic Software capable of this program is the 4700 Global Series Tractors. As new models are introduced they will start incorporating the same opportunity for customers. I know sister brand Fendt Tractors 700 Gen 6 Tractors are also compatible. It will be rolling out to other models. The Person Performing the work is going to have to determine what and how to fix. Diagnostic Tools allow you to look at what is happening and error codes they don't tell you how to fix. That is what Dealers pay thousands and thousands of dollars annually to training their mechanics. Program is similar to going to auto parts store and getting code read on vehicles...doesn't tell you how to fix but the parts stores sells you components to try to resolve the problem.
Well that’s nice that Massey Ferguson let’s you fix your problems; instead of having to take it to a dealer every time there’s a problem.
Here is some good information from the industry on Right to Repair: r2rsolutions.org/
I’ve never liked the auto throttle on tractors.
Why? it's one of the nicest features for driving and especially loader work. Fuel saver too!
@@VahrenbergImplement I’d rather set my throttle and control my speed with the pedals. Every time I’ve used auto throttle,…I end up having to do to much shift with the range selector. The torque was never really in the sweet spot for where I needed it. To me,…it’s only good when doing work in tighter areas,…and that includes loader work. When mowing in thicker weeds/grass,…you can’t just back off of the pedal without being too far below your ideal rpm range. You have to put it in a lower range,…but when it thins out, then you can over-rev to get back up to speed,…or you can stop and select the next range up. To say what I’m trying to say,…It’s easier to keep the rpms matched for the constant varying conditions a lot easier than with the auto throttle.
If you need minimum engine RPM set the hand throttle to that needs. Like Mowing with Rear PTO you set RPM with Throttle to produce the correct PTO Speed you need then when you get in tougher conditions or want to go faster AutoThrottle Kicks in to increase the RPM or ground speed and prevents the tractor from stalling. AutoThrottle works in conjunction with manual throttle but is there to help when you need more.
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