"this is definitively better than sidechain compression"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Agreed. Just would like it a little cleaner. So here's FLVTTER: bit.ly/FLVTTER
Original: www.tiktok.com... @nest.acoustics
Sorry for the video being vertical btw! I keep making them for Tik Tok and Instagram and if they turn out to be longer than one minute, they can't be a short on TH-cam.
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man I always wanted to have that "808 chops my vocals" effect that "Billie Eilish - Xanny" has for example without having to clip my master...here we go! Thanks a ton
omg EXACTLY that effect, I LOVE XANNY FOR THAT, that's crazy
@@ZefParisoto Just googled Xanny. Fuck that is awesome. Any chance we could get a tutorial on that?
@@auraldecoy
You can easily do this by having two versions of the vocal, one with an LFO on the gain control, the other without. Any time the kick hits, play the affected vocal and not the other. Bob's your uncle!
@ 0:14 I've been trying to make ringmod sidechain work since the early EARLY borassca days (he now has v3 of his m4l device, but back then he only had like 2 tutorials on how to do it with free and Melda plugins) and I'm glad someone else has a more "scientific" list of things that they find annoying about RM sidechain. Personally, I liked borassca's original analogy of "RM sidechain is to sidechain what clipping is to limiting, or like what distortion is to compression", as it perfectly summed up why it made things sound more distorted. Thanks for taking the time to make this plugin. Music production is strong when the people in it engage in both the scientific and artistic aspects of it.
Never heard of borassca, but yeah that's well worded! I'm even branding my plugin as "sidechained distortion" since that's really what it sounds like!
Love this plugin, thanks!
You actually added the noise modulated clipping!? Please tell me you did. Need explanation! 🤯
I did! I hope it lines up with the ideas you have about it! I made a lot of shorts and regular videos on my plugin, how it works and what you can do with it. Feel free to let me know what you think about it!
Thank you, been waiting for something like this!
i usually find sidechain ringmods too distorted, but i could imagine using this in parallel with a sidechain compressor to find a healthy balance between minimizing peak levels and maximizing audio fidelity
Yeah that's what i do too! I only made it so extreme for this video so the effect would be clearly audible even on mobile speakers.
Dude this is so fucking awesome
Buying this now as you’ve directly addressed the time-consuming drawbacks of ring mod side chain. Excited to see how this works in practice 🤞🙌
Thank you for your support!! Let me know how you like it 😇
@@ZefParisoto so far it’s working as advertised and I’m really happy with it. Zero-crossing distortion is something I’ve tried in the past but the amount of filters and tinkering with knobs made it not fun to achieve. Really dig this. Great work!
Whew. Commenting for you to be more visible cause I was JUST thinking of a similar mixing technique. Do the signals get mixed together or are you free to then process them further? I would love to have a bit extra saturation on the less “sidechained”sections of the bass cause having those low mids pop out during the kick tends to mask the kick and this could be a definitive solution
The two signals remain separate!
Yesss, this is actually what I always do: I apply conventional multiband sidechaining, but the curve for the highs is really short because they and only they get clipped from kicks or some basses!
Just wanted to keep things simpler for this video :)
Is there something I am not getting?
It just sounds distorted af.
Fair point ~ I put the settings super extreme so you could hear it here even on mobile speakers. My other videos have more examples that are rather pleasant to the ears I'd say 😁 th-cam.com/users/shortsUsU9vX4wzvA
is ring mod how you get that fuzzy effect on basses?? ive been wondering how to do that for years. ive been using erosion (noise thingy on ableton)
Some kind of noise layer or erosion is the first step! And then the fuzziness comes indeed from some kind of distortion or modulation from a bass layer. You can achieve this sound with ringmod, but as shown in the video, you can make the result peak a lot lower and have more control over the effect if you use my plugin "FLVTTER" instead!
Yo! I'd love if you could help me. There's clearly something i'm not understanding about Ringmod Sidechain! I tried Nest Acosutic's method and I've also tried your plugin. However what I end up hearing is not what I expected. I'm trying to get my kick drum to duck my bass synth. I was under the impression that Ringmod sidechain would do that, but all i hear is distortion! What am I doing wrong?!
Hi there! I'm afraid these tools might not be the right choice for you then. The common way to achieve that classic ducking effect is to either use sidechain compression (what Nest Acoustics briefly mentions in the beginning) where a compressor automatically ducks your bass whenever the kick hits (which needs to be routed as a sidechain input to the bass). OR you just use a volume automation on the bass, which also gets triggered whenever the kick hits. The cleaner way with more control, in my opinion.
What both Ring Mod and FLVTTER do different, is that they in fact distort your bass by the frequency of the kick, not just duck it. With a bass as the carrier, this probably sounds really muddy though, I usually do this just to get that crunch on my cymbals when they're aligned with a kick.
I hope this clarifies things! I also recommend looking into multiband sidechaining.
If you ended up buying FLVTTER with a different expectation than what it does, please let me know and I can offer a full refund.
@@ZefParisoto thanks for the reply!
I’m really enjoying the plug-in aside from my initial confusion so no that won’t be necessary. 🙏🙏
Keep up the good work!
or just stick with the free khs one and crank the rectify down like he did instead of paying 12 euros :), the difference between them is so subtle its nitpickable
Absolutely! I want to add that this also comes with less control, no visualizer, no volume compensation and it will peak signifcantly higher on the master. But to whoever doesn't mind, kHs is goated, go get their free stuff!
@@ZefParisotoi understand, it's just that the benefits do not outweigh the price
that being said i'm not tryna throw shade at you, the direction you're going with the plugin and all the features you're adding might make me buy it in the future
ah! ofcourse... this is nice!
I would say you can do it if you invert the way the ring modulation works, with 0-crossings as positive-only peaks and peaks as 0-crossings, this is why in the original he says to crank up the bias and rectify!
but the other issues about volume and interface still do remain, so still a good video
Absolutely! First and foremost it was the lack of control that bothered me about this method when I first tried it out ~
@@ZefParisoto idk what's wrong with my version or kHz's ring mod but when I do it it's like no modulation happens, which is strange
but aye, guess we get the update for something that cost more than 10 canadian bucks
@@victorfunnyman huh, that's weird. Make sure the sidechain input it routed properly and you selected INPUT 3+4!
@@ZefParisoto I did! I worked through doing it in patcher. And obviously it recieves input because on non-bias and non-rectify, it does the ring mod properly
Boom, Boom
is this plugin ring mod Sidechaine simplified?
It's similar to ring mod, but comes with a few advantages - more control and practicability, volume compensation and lower peaks on the master as well as a visualizer!
Fricken awesome 😎
What’s the song at 0:20 during the demo? Are the arps just in this demo?
Ohhh yeah it's just a looped sample and a kickdrum unfortunately. But the sample is from L. M. so I'm sure you'll be able to find some gems in their discography!
its ok with cubase ?? 🤔
Should be okay with every DAW except Logic, which has a very strict validation (working on it). But I think you'd be the first to try, so I can not promise anything yet. If there's an issue, I'll do my best to work it out with you!
@@ZefParisoto I understand you, brother, thank you ❤
@@ma3boch please let me know if it works in case you do decide to get it!
I think i've heard fox stevenson talking about this in streams, kinda like doing AM using the fundamental of the kick? i dont really understand it tbh lol
oh really? Yeah that's pretty much the purpose! Technically like bipolar inverted AM :)
@@ZefParisoto now i just need to figure out the routing process😅
hold on - i dont understand why you dont just use a compressor that has 0 release? So essentially using a clipper to do the sidechain lol...? someone explain how this is different
Technically you're right, it should be similar, but all compressors I've used in my life were still too slow on the lowest attack+release settings, so the carrier gets ducked the entire time when the sidechain input is active. FLVTTER however applies a very fast volume automation instead, which sounds naturally closer to clipping/distortion than conventional sidechain compression!
Why do I keep seeing the homie everywhere lol.
@@ZefParisoto may i suggest to you MTurboComp by melda. You can go from a true 0ms (clipping) to 10,000ms on both the release/attack parameters. Very versatile device. Thanks for the reply btw
@@Rollthered great minds think alike Lol :)
@@ZefParisoto Then why not just use a hard clipper
Linux compatibility?
Not yet unfortunately, you're the first to ask. I'll see what I can do!
Can you message me on Discord? I'm zefparisoto
@@ZefParisoto How did you make the plugin? You could take the whole codebase and copy pate it into Claude 3 and ask it if all the libraries are Linux compatible. I don't mind compiling Ubuntu 22.04 binaries for you to distribute as a .tarz
just get RMSC , its free and better than this garbage lol
Absolutely! If you want less control, higher peaks on the master level, no volume compensation, no modes to choose from and no future updates with more features, go ahead and download RMSC right now!
@@ZefParisoto imagine making a shitty vst and having an ego lmao humble urself lil bro not only does ur music suck but ur vst's are garbage too , ur selling something thats essentially free
your plugin and RMSC have exact same peaks in the master and pretty much the same features , RMSC even sounds better and more natural becuase of their filtering techniques