They made a mistake and listened to those that told them that they were wrong at a time when so many others double down on their errors and express contempt for accurate criticisms. Let us not condemn them for making a mistake. Let us be grateful they corrected it.
Their continued hostility towards KK during the 50th anniversary, is SERIOUSLY damaging their brand, and reputation. “Nice guy Halford,” is no longer viewed that way by me, as he is a part of this. The twin attack of KK and Tipton are the things of LEGEND. You hold these things in high, and ETERNAL reverence: definitely NOT the way to bow out after half a century.
Exactly. Who cares now, anyway? A band can only make so many lineup changes and still remain “that” band. It’s basically the Rob Halford Band at this point.
100% agree. No disrespect intended to Rob, Richie, Ian, Scott, or Andy Sneap. But with neither KK or Glenn there, honestly, what’s the point? Richie and Andy are more than competent players, but Glenn and KK defined the very sound of Priest. Without them, it might as well be a tribute band.
Imagine how much better things would be in the Priest camp if they had a manager like Rod Smallwood. Whoever is doing the job at the moment should be fired immediately
I'm so glad that Judas Priest has come to their senses and actually listened to their fans, the band trying to go out as a four piece with one guitar just wasn't going to fly at all especially as they've built their legendary reputation as a twin guitar outfit, as they say if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Now if I were those guys, I would get on the phone right now and call a certain Mr Downing to come back to the band....
KK? - 'tain't ever gonna happen. he's burnt all his bridges and a long time has passed. He has his own band and he should do that. Richie is Priest... Richie and Rob and Ian and Scott...and Andy + Glenn. Get well soon Richie. Stay strong Glenn.
They should bring KK back into the band! Just like they did when Rob wanted to come back. Plus, he originally started the band! It's sad that these longtime friends can't get their heads and egos outta their asses.
Glad to hear Priest is going to do things the right way and listen to their fans. I know that there is a large section of the fanbase that say "no Glen, no KK, no Priest", but Andy is a great guitar player and in my opinion, he's helped add a lot of much needed energy to their performances over the last three years. Here's hoping Judas Priest swings by my neck of the woods; would love to see them one more time!
Yeah god forbid them wanting to do something for themselves.... you know you have failed when you create for fans instead of from the self. But whatever the majority made them change their mind...oh and one more thing one of the reasons they wanted four is so they can bring cost down for fans!!!! Well you all fucked that up....now tickets will be $80 or more....Priest just announced...SO THANKS GUYS!!!!!
Biggest issue they were gonna run into is that people bought tickets months ago thinking they were getting one thing and then switched to backing tracks. That’s nonsense. That’s not what people paid for.
As a lifelong Judas Priest fan I am completely over this entire thing. To be perfectly honest Priest has become a cover band. Without KK or Glenn it just isn't Priest.
Yeah.. i grew up listening to Priest. While Richie is awesome and love his playing, Sneap aint cuttin it with me. The ONLY way this gets fixed fir Priest fans is, Faulkner, KK Downing and Glenn appearing onstage when able.
@@gtr1963 The fact that they haven't and apparently will not bring KK back is a fucking disgrace. The band brought Rob Halford back after he just bailed on them. Freaking hypocritical bullshit from Rob and Glenn TBH
I'm glad Priest had a change of heart and are going out on the road the way they should! I just got my ticket for Portland, OR, and the ticket was cheaper then I originally saw and the transportation is cheaper too! It will be my first time seeing Priest, can't wait!
I have to wonder if this whole thing was set up. I also tend to believe KK when he said he had issues with management - I felt that way with several comments in the lead up to KK leaving. Honestly, the smart thing to do would be to get KK back and work it out like they did with Rob. Much worse breakups have been reconciled. If that means new management, then maybe that's not a bad idea. They should never have chosen the managers over KK in the first place
The problem is Jayne Andrews is said to be or was in a relationship with Glenn. If that is true, that will be why changing management will be difficult
I bet it was about saving 5 bucks so now they are embarrassed. Ill be surprised if they ever mention it again. Whatever -- the right decision was made.....and like with most of the world, it took us to make sure that right decision was made....so Bravo to the people -- Thank You Pete for leading the charge!
And if you really want to impress your fan base, ask KK to rejoin. He was always the coolest member in my opinion and is a vital member of the original lineup.
Tough to envision Priest as a 4 piece. Would be awesome if K.K. were back, but you can't have everything. Definitely feel bad for Glenn with the Parkinson's but was happy to see him come out and do a few songs with them in 2018.
Great news! Glad to see Sneap back in action. KK and Glenn were great in their day, but right now in present condition I truly believe Faulkner and Sneap are more energetic on stage. KK and Glenn are legends who have earned their fame and rest.
Everyone in the actual Judas Priest is near 70 or over so you can only expect so much in life you can be a Metalhead for life but eventually you're going to have to do it in a wheelchair😒
They need to maybe do a final farewell to fans short concert list and make it just that final ! They had their Hay Day and I was there from the beginning but now come on there's Judas priest that once was and now they've come to this I don't care to see it!
I chuckled at your "I told you so", Pete. Deep down, I believed something would have worked out for the second guitarist - odds are this was a record label thing, and some record exec is cleaning out their office for the four-piece bit.
What a relief...I'd spent a lot on my ticket for the tour and was afraid of the setlist being dumbed down and pre-recorded tracks being used etc..it's nice they realized that this was an instance when they needed to listen to the fans.
Good Grief!! This band has lost their minds! Just bring back KK Downing for one more final tour (The "Burying The Hatchet World Tour" ) and then call it a day! - The Eagles had the "Hell Freezes Over" tour...G&R had the "Not In This Lifetime" tour...so, if all those guys can get back together...so, can Priest!! - I understand they may not all get along as friends but, I have a job where I must work 40 hours a week with people who don't get along with each other but, it's our fuckin' job to make the best of it for business sake! - - Being a kickass Heavy Metal band is their job!!... it's not kindergarten! They should put personal differences with Mr. Downing aside and make the best decision for the business of making music! BRING BACK KK!!
At this point they only have one choice, bring back KK. They made peace with Rob when he left the same when Glen did a solo album and Scott left with Rob to do fight so make things right and bring KK back
At least Judas Priest is going back on the road as a five-piece again, but yeah an explanation or apology about this whole fiasco would be nice too. At least, they listened to the fans, though!
This is the end for me, I'll always love classic Priest but it's pretty damn insulting that they think we're that stupid & it's hard to support a band that is that cheap & petty. They've already been caught in a lie on this & you'd have to be a fool to think this was ever about anything besides money.....LAME!!
Thanks for the update and you are correct! And I was one of those fans that commented on another video. I would like to hear their thoughts on this though.
Not that I wanted four piece Priest, but I was almost wanting to see what they would sound like with one guitar for the sheer profundity. Glad they changed their minds, and credit to channels like SoT and the like for being a pretty resounding voice of the people in cases like this.
I totally agree with you. I said the same thing as soon as I saw the original post about the 4 piece. That twin guitar sound is a big part of their identity.
..... It would be cool if KK's priest opened up for Judas priest.... He could then play guitar with priest alongside Richie Faulkner.... Everybody's happy!
They continue to dig their own grave. Instead of going out with a bang...they are going out with people sniggering at them. Embarrassing. I'm done with them now. You know, as much as I like Ritchie, if you want to see real Priest, you have to pop in the DVD of the British Steel Anniversary tour from 2009. 13 years ago now!!!!! Goodbye to my once favourite band.
@@SuperStrik9 Live Vengeance is great. I was thinking that last real concerts that were the real Priest, not what they have become. Another thing as well...I know Rob needs the teleprompter but bloody hell he hardly ever moves from it. There comes a stage for everyone when it's time to say...its been great, thanks for the memories.
The real Judas Priest is gone. Let's accept it already. That was the band of my whole youth, that music was everything to me ,with Sabbath and few other bands.
Great haircut, Pete, and great choice, Judas Priest. Twin leads are the sound of British Steel that is only, Judas Priest. Good to see Rob, Ian and the fellas smiling. Saw them August 1984 Defenders Tour, front row. #Priest :thumbsup:
Good news. I'd be really interested to know exactly how this whole saga happened. Clearly someone in the band and/or in management thought that JP with one guitar wouldn't be a big deal with the fans. That person should be screened for dementia ASAP.
I reckon they were setting up a big media reveal - that KK would rejoin for a final tour, and made the initial announcement under the impression that all the contractual dots and crosses were completed. Then, a lawyer gets in the way, vetoes the contract, and the plan falls apart leaving the band with egg on their face.
The only downside of this is that we will never see HOW they managed to pull it off as a 4-piece. I was really curious! I think it would have sucked, but part of me had a curiosity wondering how it would have sounded, I guess we will never know!
They would have used pre-recorded backing tracks to fill in for the missing guitarist so, it would've still sounded pretty much the same as always but, with less people on stage.
Whooo the power of the fans. Reminds me of when Bruce Dickinson said live on stage that Iron Maiden were never going to play the old classics, & for the fans to see a tribute band if they want to listen to those songs again, and the fans went, really? Year or two later Somewhere Back in Time Tour was announced, another few years later Maiden England tour, years later after that Legacy of the Beast tour. Only Bowie could get away with saying & not playing his old old classics because he had even more hits in his back catalogue, as well as changing musicians & the size of his live act. These bands aren’t Bowie, or Springsteen for that matter who has the ability to play with or without the E Street Band.
Maybe the time has come to call it quits. I have been a Judas priest fan for decades, but I would rather see this band retire than to do anything else to weaken their legacy. Without K.K. and Glenn, the band really isn't the same anymore.
I've been a huge Priest fan for a long time. I'd like them to put out more records. I can tell the tours are increasingly hard for Rob. I hate to see the squabbles and drama, it's a bad look. Time to quit trying to be "this or that" and just rock the f**k out! 🤘
Hahaha, I just thought of this. It was probably a ruse to get everyone to shut up about KK Downing to rejoin! Think of it, if everyone kept bugging them about Downing not being in the band, what would shut everyone up better than threatening to go out with only one guitar? Now that Andy is back in,, nobody cares about who is in the band, as long as there are two guitars. That is a genius way to control the situation. I hope I'm right and all the "fans" have been played just like they wanted.
Like a lot of longtime Priest fans; only seen them twice though😐 I think this was a reactionary decision, when they realized(due to drop in ticket sales & social media backlash) -We f**ked up! Personally; no disrespect to Andy/Ritchie/Scott, etc. Priest with Glenn & KK is THE standard.
Priest was about to commit the ultimate sin in the metal world which is why they absolutely had to revert back to the status quo (of what they have been the past few years). Without Glenn and KK, though the band is not as big of a draw, a lot of people think "well they are so old now I want to go see Rob and hear the songs because this will probably be the last time I ever get to see them, if for no other reason just because their age." BUT you absolutely not go out there and play to tracks, that is the unforgiveable sin, and that's what they were going to do. Of course the best thing that could happen was bring KK back but if they were not going to do that they had to bring Andy back. Going out there with tracks would have been career suicide.
What a treat, no rants in aaaages and now two in a week! I'm also gonna go along with the theory that Priest watch SoT and that RANT is the reason for Sneap no longer being a Victim of Changes! 😁
I am just glad they rectified the situation before doing any tour dates. Imagine seeing a show with only one guitarist and then they reverted back to two axemen for the next show? I would have been pissed. Also glad that Priest had the smarts to listen to the fans. Far too many bands would have marched on without hearing anything.
I'm glad that they've changed their minds on the *terrible* idea of a "one-guitar Priest," but as much as that concept seemed like a Spinal Tap moment, their changing of course so quickly (when faced with the swift backlash of their fans) seems *even more* like something out of "This Is Spinal Tap," lol! In the end, they made the right decision, but the whole situation is both sad and unintentionally hilarious to me!
They made a good decision to stay as a five piece band...but, the right decision would be reaching out to KK Downing and bringing him back into the band for this 50th anniversary tour. Downing obviously wants to be back in Priest...his solo band is just a glorified tribute band. I'm sure he'd prefer to back with the real Judas Priest again.
I thought it was such a strange decision in the first place. When all your music is based around a two guitar sound, how on earth was that going to work? If a group adds to their sound, that's somehow different. Say Led Zeppelin had decided to go out on the road and had opted to take a second guitar player with them to fill out the sound and help recreate more of the textures on the records. It would have been a bit odd seeing them as a five piece, but it may have worked (Page and Plant did just that in 1995). But taking away from what made your sound in the first place was just unfathomable and I'm glad they've changed their minds.
I’ve been a fan since Defenders came out. I would totally check out Priest as a four piece. Sounds interesting to me. But I listen to other types of music so call it curiosity.
Great to see Priest being humble enough to quickly accept the fact they came up with a rotten and senseless idea about shrinking down to a fourpiece after half a century of being one of the most legendary two guitar bands in history. But what an own goal that press release from last week was!
I will see them in March at MGM National Harbor. I was very disappointed with decision to tour as a four piece, and happy they changed their mind. I am curious as to why they made the four piece decision, but I will not hold a grudge. I am older and so are they. I wanted to see them again.
Good Judas Priest they saw the light from all the pressure from fans and many around the world. And that it was said that Andy knew very well the songs and played the catalogue of songs they were doing so why change with someone else to play the songs, Welcome back Andy!
I'm divided on this. The injury is healed enough for me to go see live. However, the recent events has left me with a sour taste to the band. To see them live and know that the set-up isn't what they initially wanted will definitely plague my experience of them. If they would have used their heads from the beginning, they would have known what a stupid idea it was. It's this type of fan service that has made me lose respect for the band in recent years. If this was Maiden, Steve Harris would have given two s**ts about the fans reactions and continued on as he originally wanted.
Now it's about selling tickets. Should have just did it as 4 piece and proved people that it could work. I'm sick of this whiney fan bullshit. They don't get their way and bands and companies bend over the second they start crying.
If you think Priest going on tour as a four-piece was a stupid idea, why are you now more angry that they’ve changed their minds? That doesn’t make sense. If they change their minds again and go out as a four-piece, will you be all psyched? Seems like people just love to be crybabies.
@@crusheverything4449 It was a stupid idea, but that's what they decided to go for. Changing the set-up just to please the fans makes them look even more ridiculous. If you decide to go for a concept, regardless of how stupid it is, the best thing you can do is to stick to it.
The only reason we can think of that they would want to go with a four piece is to save money due to fewer fans coming to a show. Glad they changed their mind.
Indeed, this changing statement was a very weird and confusing. From our most favourite band we expected some more serious marketing and decision making. So weird
Well I'm certainly glad they changed their minds on this one. First of all who's bright idea was this anyway? Why? Why the hell would they make the change to a four piece?? My God WTF are they smoking in the Judas Priest camp? My mind is all kinds of boggled. I'm glad they came to their senses but I'm still just flabbergasted. 😵
I was at the Louisville show that Faulkner had the heart issue and they were really good. I also saw them on Painkiller. For me it was cool seeing both versions but the real joy came in being able to take my 21 year old son (who really likes Priest but never had the chance to see K.K. and Glenn) to the Louisville show and just watch him rock out to seeing them live. Not much time left for a lot of these bands so being able to share those moments with my kid and the same bands we love is all that matters to me. Glenn and K.K. crush it but hats off to Sneap and Faulkner as well. They do a tremendous job. But it definitely needs to be 2 guitar players.
To be honest I was looking forward to seeing and hearing Priest mix it up with some change and go out as a one guitar four piece, could have been a breath of fresh air to hear a stripped down version of the band and see how Tipton handles the situation caving in and going back to doing the same old thing if they really didn't want to seems pretty stale and gutless.
The real question is how did they not know the fans wouldn't like this. They keep bragging about being Metal heads for 50 years, you would have thought they would of learned something about their fans after that long.
They made a mistake and listened to those that told them that they were wrong at a time when so many others double down on their errors and express contempt for accurate criticisms. Let us not condemn them for making a mistake. Let us be grateful they corrected it.
True words! 🤘❤️
How anyone in the camp thought it was a good idea is mind boggling.
It really is
Their continued hostility towards KK during the 50th anniversary, is SERIOUSLY damaging their brand, and reputation. “Nice guy Halford,” is no longer viewed that way by me, as he is a part of this. The twin attack of KK and Tipton are the things of LEGEND. You hold these things in high, and ETERNAL reverence: definitely NOT the way to bow out after half a century.
One of my “mentors” had a phrase, “affluence breeds effluents”, that he would use regarding these kinds of things.
Honestly pretty cool that they took the criticisms and changed their minds!
ya swallow your pride guys.
I guess they thought their fans WOULD accept a 4 piece. STUPID of them.
Goes to show they're less arrogant than your average rockstar. Good for them.
No one would have bought tickets.
No pretty cool would be talking to KK about coming back
KK was there since the beginning even before Glen. Imaging the interest if they came to there senses and he was asked to rejoin.
To be honest, without Glen and KK, it just isn't Priest to me anyway.
Same.
Yes, me too
Exactly. Who cares now, anyway? A band can only make so many lineup changes and still remain “that” band. It’s basically the Rob Halford Band at this point.
Yep! Like black sabbath without Iommi
100% agree. No disrespect intended to Rob, Richie, Ian, Scott, or Andy Sneap. But with neither KK or Glenn there, honestly, what’s the point? Richie and Andy are more than competent players, but Glenn and KK defined the very sound of Priest. Without them, it might as well be a tribute band.
Imagine how much better things would be in the Priest camp if they had a manager like Rod Smallwood. Whoever is doing the job at the moment should be fired immediately
Rumors have it she's married to Glenn...
I think Bill Curbishly is still their manager…….you don’t f*ck with him!
@@GBCR I think that rumor's bullshit. You know if it was true KK would have given us every morsel of information about it.
@@MetalPersonJ Not necessarily. People say he shat on the band, but IMHO he bit his lip more than he let out.
Priest should have gotten new management two decades ago.
Here's to the memory of Joe Bag-Of-Donuts. Gone (for now) but not to be soon forgotten.
I'm in Tucson and that dude is legendary
I'm so glad that Judas Priest has come to their senses and actually listened to their fans, the band trying to go out as a four piece with one guitar just wasn't going to fly at all especially as they've built their legendary reputation as a twin guitar outfit, as they say if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Now if I were those guys, I would get on the phone right now and call a certain Mr Downing to come back to the band....
'xactley...
KK? - 'tain't ever gonna happen.
he's burnt all his bridges and a long time has passed. He has his own band and he should do that.
Richie is Priest...
Richie and Rob and Ian and Scott...and Andy + Glenn.
Get well soon Richie. Stay strong Glenn.
If Judas Priest were REALLY listening to their fans KK would be back in the band already.
No tipton,No downing
It ain't Judas priest!
They were always two guitar band. Thanks to the fans. They had a change of heart. I'm glad to hear it.
Great news but still disappointed that they even considered going as a four piece.
Without Glen and K.K. it just ain't Priest.
They should bring KK back into the band! Just like they did when Rob wanted to come back. Plus, he originally started the band! It's sad that these longtime friends can't get their heads and egos outta their asses.
Without both Downing and Tipton Priest ain't Priest.
Maybe they saw your rant and took it to heart, along with all the other outraged fans. Now, if you could convince them to bring KK back...
KK rules.
He maybe shouldn't have aired so much dirty laundry in his book, but KK belongs in that band.
Without KK and Tipton it ain't Judas Priest. KKs Priest is the only real one now
Glad to hear Priest is going to do things the right way and listen to their fans. I know that there is a large section of the fanbase that say "no Glen, no KK, no Priest", but Andy is a great guitar player and in my opinion, he's helped add a lot of much needed energy to their performances over the last three years. Here's hoping Judas Priest swings by my neck of the woods; would love to see them one more time!
Yeah god forbid them wanting to do something for themselves.... you know you have failed when you create for fans instead of from the self. But whatever the majority made them change their mind...oh and one more thing one of the reasons they wanted four is so they can bring cost down for fans!!!! Well you all fucked that up....now tickets will be $80 or more....Priest just announced...SO THANKS GUYS!!!!!
@@hellrazorofficial9178 very true..GREAT POINT
Biggest issue they were gonna run into is that people bought tickets months ago thinking they were getting one thing and then switched to backing tracks. That’s nonsense. That’s not what people paid for.
As a lifelong Judas Priest fan I am completely over this entire thing. To be perfectly honest Priest has become a cover band. Without KK or Glenn it just isn't Priest.
Yeah.. i grew up listening to Priest. While Richie is awesome and love his playing, Sneap aint cuttin it with me. The ONLY way this gets fixed fir Priest fans is, Faulkner, KK Downing and Glenn appearing onstage when able.
@@gtr1963 The fact that they haven't and apparently will not bring KK back is a fucking disgrace. The band brought Rob Halford back after he just bailed on them. Freaking hypocritical bullshit from Rob and Glenn TBH
I'm glad Priest had a change of heart and are going out on the road the way they should! I just got my ticket for Portland, OR, and the ticket was cheaper then I originally saw and the transportation is cheaper too! It will be my first time seeing Priest, can't wait!
Glad “JP “ came to their senses and changed their mind !!
Thank you , “ Pete” for this “Rant”.
All the damn time.
🎤🎸🎵🎹🥁
Life is better with music.
And all is now right with the World.....
"God bless us.....every one."
This is fantastic to hear! They did the right thing by listening to their fans, which many artists fail to do.
That’s great to hear. Glad they actually listened
I have to wonder if this whole thing was set up. I also tend to believe KK when he said he had issues with management - I felt that way with several comments in the lead up to KK leaving. Honestly, the smart thing to do would be to get KK back and work it out like they did with Rob. Much worse breakups have been reconciled. If that means new management, then maybe that's not a bad idea. They should never have chosen the managers over KK in the first place
New management would be the best thing ever, but I am afraid that boundaries are too strong as we speak now
k k s priest is way better and a way better singer check them out new record is out
The problem is Jayne Andrews is said to be or was in a relationship with Glenn. If that is true, that will be why changing management will be difficult
Given Jane (in the management) is Glenn's "beau"....
They definitely heard the complaints from the fans. Glad that they made the right move here.
They need to bring K.K back! its getting pretty embarrassing now..
BEYOND embarrasing....they look like absolute fools now
I bet it was about saving 5 bucks so now they are embarrassed. Ill be surprised if they ever mention it again. Whatever -- the right decision was made.....and like with most of the world, it took us to make sure that right decision was made....so Bravo to the people -- Thank You Pete for leading the charge!
And if you really want to impress your fan base, ask KK to rejoin. He was always the coolest member in my opinion and is a vital member of the original lineup.
just stop
Tough to envision Priest as a 4 piece. Would be awesome if K.K. were back, but you can't have everything. Definitely feel bad for Glenn with the Parkinson's but was happy to see him come out and do a few songs with them in 2018.
Laughed at the Dog barking at the 2 minute mark. Even the Dog wants to voice its agreement on Judas Priest remaining as the 5 piece! 😀😀
No wonder KK left this circus of management!
Great news! Glad to see Sneap back in action. KK and Glenn were great in their day, but right now in present condition I truly believe Faulkner and Sneap are more energetic on stage. KK and Glenn are legends who have earned their fame and rest.
They really are more energetic (witnessed it in 2018) and all melodies and riffs are faster of course too.
Priest going out without KK and Glenn is like Sabbath going out without Tony Iommi!!! You know this but the younger fans don't. Cheers
Everyone in the actual Judas Priest is near 70 or over so you can only expect so much in life you can be a Metalhead for life but eventually you're going to have to do it in a wheelchair😒
Amen!
Agreed. No offence to Ian or Scott but it might as well be the Rob Halford Band at this point.
Totally i agree.
They need to maybe do a final farewell to fans short concert list and make it just that final ! They had their Hay Day and I was there from the beginning but now come on there's Judas priest that once was and now they've come to this I don't care to see it!
Speaking of Andy, Sabbat UK's "History of a Time to Come" was released 34 years ago today.
Fantastic album!
I chuckled at your "I told you so", Pete.
Deep down, I believed something would have worked out for the second guitarist - odds are this was a record label thing, and some record exec is cleaning out their office for the four-piece bit.
What a relief...I'd spent a lot on my ticket for the tour and was afraid of the setlist being dumbed down and pre-recorded tracks being used etc..it's nice they realized that this was an instance when they needed to listen to the fans.
Good Grief!! This band has lost their minds! Just bring back KK Downing for one more final tour (The "Burying The Hatchet World Tour" ) and then call it a day!
- The Eagles had the "Hell Freezes Over" tour...G&R had the "Not In This Lifetime" tour...so, if all those guys can get back together...so, can Priest!!
- I understand they may not all get along as friends but, I have a job where I must work 40 hours a week with people who don't get along with each other but, it's our fuckin' job to make the best of it for business sake! -
- Being a kickass Heavy Metal band is their job!!... it's not kindergarten! They should put personal differences with Mr. Downing aside and make the best decision for the business of making music! BRING BACK KK!!
look kk does not want to go back he has his own band with better guys that play priest songs ok
KK DOES want to go back!
At this point they only have one choice, bring back KK. They made peace with Rob when he left the same when Glen did a solo album and Scott left with Rob to do fight so make things right and bring KK back
At least Judas Priest is going back on the road as a five-piece again, but yeah an explanation or apology about this whole fiasco would be nice too. At least, they listened to the fans, though!
This is the end for me, I'll always love classic Priest but it's pretty damn insulting that they think we're that stupid & it's hard to support a band that is that cheap & petty. They've already been caught in a lie on this & you'd have to be a fool to think this was ever about anything besides money.....LAME!!
THIS^^^^^^^
Always about Money
@@JasonSositko Very true, rarely this blatant though :)
WELL SAID
This is the End...this is the end my loyal Priest friend
Thanks for the update and you are correct! And I was one of those fans that commented on another video. I would like to hear their thoughts on this though.
Not that I wanted four piece Priest, but I was almost wanting to see what they would sound like with one guitar for the sheer profundity.
Glad they changed their minds, and credit to channels like SoT and the like for being a pretty resounding voice of the people in cases like this.
I totally agree with you. I said the same thing as soon as I saw the original post about the 4 piece. That twin guitar sound is a big part of their identity.
Power to the people!
A band listening to their fans! KISS could take a lesson in that!
They do look foolish, but I give them credit for noticing the boatloads of outrage and changing course.
..... It would be cool if KK's priest opened up for Judas priest.... He could then play guitar with priest alongside Richie Faulkner.... Everybody's happy!
Not going to happen. But would love it
I'm glad they changed their decision, can't wait to see them in April. 🎸💪
They continue to dig their own grave.
Instead of going out with a bang...they are going out with people sniggering at them.
Embarrassing.
I'm done with them now.
You know, as much as I like Ritchie, if you want to see real Priest, you have to pop in the DVD of the British Steel Anniversary tour from 2009.
13 years ago now!!!!!
Goodbye to my once favourite band.
Similar to the way KISS is going about their Final Farewell tour... with imposters on stage and pre-recorded tracks. Disgraceful.
Even better pop in Live Vengeance '82 🤘
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Live Vengeance is great. I was thinking that last real concerts that were the real Priest, not what they have become.
Another thing as well...I know Rob needs the teleprompter but bloody hell he hardly ever moves from it. There comes a stage for everyone when it's time to say...its been great, thanks for the memories.
The people won! Thanks Priest!
Good sense has prevailed. The fans have spoken and the band actually took notice.
The real Judas Priest is gone. Let's accept it already. That was the band of my whole youth, that music was everything to me ,with Sabbath and few other bands.
So Priest DIDN'T know their fans....UNREAL!!!!
Great haircut, Pete, and great choice, Judas Priest. Twin leads are the sound of British Steel that is only, Judas Priest. Good to see Rob, Ian and the fellas smiling. Saw them August 1984 Defenders Tour, front row. #Priest :thumbsup:
Good news. I'd be really interested to know exactly how this whole saga happened. Clearly someone in the band and/or in management thought that JP with one guitar wouldn't be a big deal with the fans. That person should be screened for dementia ASAP.
Am I the only fan who is happy to have Judas Priest and KK's Priest in tangent !!??
I went to opening night back in Sept. in Reading, PA. My one and only concert in almost 20 years. Most likely my last ever.
I reckon they were setting up a big media reveal - that KK would rejoin for a final tour, and made the initial announcement under the impression that all the contractual dots and crosses were completed. Then, a lawyer gets in the way, vetoes the contract, and the plan falls apart leaving the band with egg on their face.
The only downside of this is that we will never see HOW they managed to pull it off as a 4-piece. I was really curious! I think it would have sucked, but part of me had a curiosity wondering how it would have sounded, I guess we will never know!
It doesnt seem like they rehearsed it yet. They all live in different places
They would have used pre-recorded backing tracks to fill in for the missing guitarist so, it would've still sounded pretty much the same as always but, with less people on stage.
Guess they had another thing coming.
Whooo the power of the fans.
Reminds me of when Bruce Dickinson said live on stage that Iron Maiden were never going to play the old classics, & for the fans to see a tribute band if they want to listen to those songs again, and the fans went, really?
Year or two later Somewhere Back in Time Tour was announced, another few years later Maiden England tour, years later after that Legacy of the Beast tour.
Only Bowie could get away with saying & not playing his old old classics because he had even more hits in his back catalogue, as well as changing musicians & the size of his live act.
These bands aren’t Bowie, or Springsteen for that matter who has the ability to play with or without the E Street Band.
When you’re right you’re right!!👍🏻
Maybe the time has come to call it quits. I have been a Judas priest fan for decades, but I would rather see this band retire than to do anything else to weaken their legacy. Without K.K. and Glenn, the band really isn't the same anymore.
I've been a huge Priest fan for a long time. I'd like them to put out more records. I can tell the tours are increasingly hard for Rob. I hate to see the squabbles and drama, it's a bad look. Time to quit trying to be "this or that" and just rock the f**k out! 🤘
what a relief that is, I want to see them one last time
Hahaha, I just thought of this. It was probably a ruse to get everyone to shut up about KK Downing to rejoin!
Think of it, if everyone kept bugging them about Downing not being in the band, what would shut everyone up better than threatening to go out with only one guitar? Now that Andy is back in,, nobody cares about who is in the band, as long as there are two guitars. That is a genius way to control the situation. I hope I'm right and all the "fans" have been played just like they wanted.
Like a lot of longtime Priest fans; only seen them twice though😐 I think this was a reactionary decision, when they realized(due to drop in ticket sales & social media backlash) -We f**ked up! Personally; no disrespect to Andy/Ritchie/Scott, etc. Priest with Glenn & KK is THE standard.
Priest was about to commit the ultimate sin in the metal world which is why they absolutely had to revert back to the status quo (of what they have been the past few years). Without Glenn and KK, though the band is not as big of a draw, a lot of people think "well they are so old now I want to go see Rob and hear the songs because this will probably be the last time I ever get to see them, if for no other reason just because their age."
BUT you absolutely not go out there and play to tracks, that is the unforgiveable sin, and that's what they were going to do. Of course the best thing that could happen was bring KK back but if they were not going to do that they had to bring Andy back. Going out there with tracks would have been career suicide.
One less guy to pay. They were thinking of $$$$. Glad they came to their senses.
What a treat, no rants in aaaages and now two in a week! I'm also gonna go along with the theory that Priest watch SoT and that RANT is the reason for Sneap no longer being a Victim of Changes! 😁
I am just glad they rectified the situation before doing any tour dates. Imagine seeing a show with only one guitarist and then they reverted back to two axemen for the next show? I would have been pissed. Also glad that Priest had the smarts to listen to the fans. Far too many bands would have marched on without hearing anything.
I'm glad that they've changed their minds on the *terrible* idea of a "one-guitar Priest," but as much as that concept seemed like a Spinal Tap moment, their changing of course so quickly (when faced with the swift backlash of their fans) seems *even more* like something out of "This Is Spinal Tap," lol! In the end, they made the right decision, but the whole situation is both sad and unintentionally hilarious to me!
They made a good decision to stay as a five piece band...but, the right decision would be reaching out to KK Downing and bringing him back into the band for this 50th anniversary tour. Downing obviously wants to be back in Priest...his solo band is just a glorified tribute band. I'm sure he'd prefer to back with the real Judas Priest again.
@@mr.jamesvincent3519 - Priest is also a glorified tribute band without Tipton and Downing.
I thought it was such a strange decision in the first place. When all your music is based around a two guitar sound, how on earth was that going to work? If a group adds to their sound, that's somehow different. Say Led Zeppelin had decided to go out on the road and had opted to take a second guitar player with them to fill out the sound and help recreate more of the textures on the records. It would have been a bit odd seeing them as a five piece, but it may have worked (Page and Plant did just that in 1995). But taking away from what made your sound in the first place was just unfathomable and I'm glad they've changed their minds.
Thank God. I got really good tickets for March and I've been waiting forever
I’ve been a fan since Defenders came out. I would totally check out Priest as a four piece. Sounds interesting to me. But I listen to other types of music so call it curiosity.
Great to see Priest being humble enough to quickly accept the fact they came up with a rotten and senseless idea about shrinking down to a fourpiece after half a century of being one of the most legendary two guitar bands in history. But what an own goal that press release from last week was!
I will see them in March at MGM National Harbor. I was very disappointed with decision to tour as a four piece, and happy they changed their mind. I am curious as to why they made the four piece decision, but I will not hold a grudge. I am older and so are they. I wanted to see them again.
I was curious to see the 4 piece. Falkner is a beast! I'm cool either way.. I also want Iron Maiden to go back to 2 guitars lol
Good Judas Priest they saw the light from all the pressure from fans and many around the world. And that it was said that Andy knew very well the songs and played the catalogue of songs they were doing so why change with someone else to play the songs, Welcome back Andy!
All very strange. Why did they ever think it was good idea??!!
Haha this is amazing. Undoubtedly they tuned in to some PARDO
I'm divided on this. The injury is healed enough for me to go see live. However, the recent events has left me with a sour taste to the band. To see them live and know that the set-up isn't what they initially wanted will definitely plague my experience of them. If they would have used their heads from the beginning, they would have known what a stupid idea it was. It's this type of fan service that has made me lose respect for the band in recent years. If this was Maiden, Steve Harris would have given two s**ts about the fans reactions and continued on as he originally wanted.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on this.
Me too. Stupid idea to beginn with, but if you wanna do this for whatever stupid reason - go with it. Now it will always feel forced....
Now it's about selling tickets.
Should have just did it as 4 piece and proved people that it could work.
I'm sick of this whiney fan bullshit. They don't get their way and bands and companies bend over the second they start crying.
If you think Priest going on tour as a four-piece was a stupid idea, why are you now more angry that they’ve changed their minds? That doesn’t make sense. If they change their minds again and go out as a four-piece, will you be all psyched? Seems like people just love to be crybabies.
@@crusheverything4449 It was a stupid idea, but that's what they decided to go for. Changing the set-up just to please the fans makes them look even more ridiculous. If you decide to go for a concept, regardless of how stupid it is, the best thing you can do is to stick to it.
The only reason we can think of that they would want to go with a four piece is to save money due to fewer fans coming to a show. Glad they changed their mind.
Indeed, this changing statement was a very weird and confusing. From our most favourite band we expected some more serious marketing and decision making. So weird
Hey Pete I think one of your dogs is auditioning for that second guitarist
Great conclusion to the rant part 1 my friend . Well said!
Well I'm certainly glad they changed their minds on this one. First of all who's bright idea was this anyway? Why? Why the hell would they make the change to a four piece?? My God WTF are they smoking in the Judas Priest camp? My mind is all kinds of boggled. I'm glad they came to their senses but I'm still just flabbergasted. 😵
The Filth Hounds Of Hades barking in the background agree!
Sad Strings of Destiny
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The dual leads of Judas Priest are the greatest thing since the invention of sliced bread. Had to say.
I was at the Louisville show that Faulkner had the heart issue and they were really good. I also saw them on Painkiller. For me it was cool seeing both versions but the real joy came in being able to take my 21 year old son (who really likes Priest but never had the chance to see K.K. and Glenn) to the Louisville show and just watch him rock out to seeing them live. Not much time left for a lot of these bands so being able to share those moments with my kid and the same bands we love is all that matters to me. Glenn and K.K. crush it but hats off to Sneap and Faulkner as well. They do a tremendous job. But it definitely needs to be 2 guitar players.
To be honest I was looking forward to seeing and hearing Priest mix it up with some change and go out as a one guitar four piece, could have been a breath of fresh air to hear a stripped down version of the band and see how Tipton handles the situation caving in and going back to doing the same old thing if they really didn't want to seems pretty stale and gutless.
Thank god
...Democracy's a marvelous thing...
The real question is how did they not know the fans wouldn't like this. They keep bragging about being Metal heads for 50 years, you would have thought they would of learned something about their fans after that long.
THANK GOD cant wait for the show
Without your fans, a band can’t survive.
Already got tickets. Was going to go anyway but now this is better.