Inside Wilcox's Man Utd Plans: Identity, Playing Style & Ten Hag's Future
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- Jason Wilcox is leading Manchester United's approach to create a "game model" with an overarching playing vision, identity and methodology.
What does that mean and what should Man United's modern identity be? Sam runs through everything in this video.
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If you could choose the "game model" for Manchester United, what style of play and characteristics do you want to see everything built around from this point on?
With the players we have. Kick and rush is the only option
Counter attaking football
United should play possession football. Just profile players that have a brain first and skill. Not the likes of marcus maguire and mctominay
liverpool gegenpressing is most i like, but most effectively is city's style so i would choose that one
Just play total chaos football afterall it's what we see week in week out lmao
'The Zombie Squad' ... if they ever make a documentary about the post Fergie era, this is what it should be called
Nice accolade for that bunch of pricks😂
Kudos to UnitedPeoplestv
Most of other Man United videos are all about Ten Hag facing the sack
While this channel is one of the few that look in depth on how can Man Utd improve
It's juat presuming stuff tho
Yea the rest are just braindead mobs that prey on these simp fans
What else is he supposed to do then? We all have to assume and presume things we are not certain of. No one can be definitely sure of something or someone until we actually see it orthem in action in that particular circumstance. He's doing what any one of us would do aa it relates to any aspect of life. So the fact is, he is one of the few that does this so any viewer can be hopeful about the future of the club and not be negative all the time.
@@lifelessonstv86 that’s what I mean, tired of people discussing about sacking the manager only
@@normanstewartah-shung4219 Point taken bro. That a fact. I despise it as well.
Of all the channels on TH-cam about Manchester United, you are the one that promotes the most interesting content that really makes people think, not based on click bait or sensationalist content, my respects to you, keep it up. GGMU.
The fact that EtH could be developing the youth to fit into the first team and grow the team in his image is not lost on me. Maybe he’s already written off the first team somewhat.
He’s a poor coach. He’s only looking at youth players because he’s trying buy time with the fans. What style of play has he implemented in the first team for the youth to slot into? The answer is none. He has wasted 400mill and we’re still trying to understand the football he wants. The football is garbage and league 2 teams play better football. Ten Hag needs to go.
@@thebizness5596 if he had a back 4 that could push up and make us more compact and a 6 that can control the tempo of a game what he wants to do would work. He's not just suddenly a poor coach
@@thebizness5596Clueless bro. Seek help
Wells stated
@@thebizness5596 you don’t know football at all.
respect to Sam for avoiding toxic, click bait headlines about our manager. media are so thirsty for headlines and no headline is bigger than sacking of a United manager. if you believed in him last season, I don't know how we can't still believe in him now. has he lost all his football knowledge in a season? has he lost all his leadership abilities? or is it the culmination of injuries, club drama, poor recruitment, overspending on transfers and wages over a decade that requires time to undo?
Best comment I've seen today
You summed it up aptly. I'd say ETH performed a miracle getting this team to an FA Cup final.
One has to assume that Jason Wilcox is smart enough, unbiased and has the right pedigree/experience to make such an assessment. I hope this is true.
Nice idea to bait the press, but none of the back 4 barring Shaw (injured), Martinez (injured) Dalot can actually play the ball comfortably.. the rest panic under pressure. Onana was a nice idea and was brought in for a reason but without a back four that can actually play the ball comfortably, he is useless.
Agreed, United playing out from the back always brings on a sense of impending doom for me.
Are you kidding me? He is NOT useless.
I want to see us play the way Ten Hag's Ajax were playing, that is why we brought him to our club. But we first need to get rid of players who cant play that way, including Bruno though he has been our best for years now. The next thing will be being patient as Rome was not built in one day
Ten Hag deserves another season under the new structure
I never post comments or get myself interacting on any TH-cam channel. However the content that you produce day in day out is a result of top notch journalism.
The ability to discuss matters objectively and lift lids on all subjects United, always having the bigger picture type views.
Absolute class.
Keep everything going like this and I see only big things happening in the future
Keep it up🙌🏼
Wilcox was a dribble, byline and sling in great crosses merchant. I hate inverted wingers who essentially murder strikers' chances. I hope to see better services to Hojlund then we can see a great goalscorer doing the business for us
100% I hate inverted wingers, it hinders creating chances for the striker. Stops and slows play too much. It just seems to be about allowing the wide players to cut inside and shoot very speculative shots from miles out like Rashford does. Much better to actually have the wingers on the right side so they can get the ball in the danger zone.
Unless you're the quality of Arjen Robben, you should not play on your off-wing. I agree, it's been super frustrating to watch and kills the momentum of a lot of attacks because Rashford and Antony can't/won't cross the ball to Hojlund, and would rather dribble inside and crowd the center of the pitch.
City play with inverted wingers but their strikers still score a lit of goals. Our wingers are just selfish
@@bernardkumandja1107better put, they are shite!
"Don't hate the players, hate the game"...
It's called evolution mate, plain and simple. 'Attackers' often rotate, especially if they're part of a front 3, or a trio that sits behind the striker. Another reason players on the flank aren't tasked with deliveries exclusively is the fact we now have fullbacks that overlap, and the overlap isn't an extra facet of their game, it is their game, it's expected. If you have a winger who can spank the ball into the far corner from distance, don't be critical! How often do we now see goal scoring wingers transition into prolific out and out forwards. Messi, C.Ronaldo, R.V.P, Henry, Del Piero from times gone by. Memphis Depay, even Vinicious Jr being prime examples of recent times. And finally, we even see wingers who initially play on the flank and are tasked with deliveries, C.Ronaldo, BALE! Then it becomes apparent that they're actually better on the opposite side because they've got a dangerous shot on them. Once again, don't hate the players
Rashford is the best zombie among the players. If you look closely at the back of his head, you’ll see his brain is half eaten by his MBEgo
Come next season and i see rashford in the squad then i am not putting my hopes high with this united you have to keep your hopes lower otherwise you will get heartbroken
ETH seems to think they'll be working closely together. He really is acting like someone who's had reassurances
Sometimes confidence and assurance breeds success
@@spongebobubu I'm wondering more has he been told he'll be there
@@ste4392 i hope so
We are getting it with ten hag. It just takes longer than two seasons, especially under glazer ownership and the football structure. Something that should accelerate a little under a better structure. We’re not as far away as it looks.
I just don't understand the criticism towards Ten Hag. Too many players, past and present, have stole a living. In plain English... they should never have had the opportunity to play for a great club united.
But eventually, realty hits... and the truth hurts, that being acknowledging one's limited talents.
Their are numerous players that know now... they have no long-term future at United... that feeling alone is soul crushing... and whilst believing they are trying 100%, its like attempting to play a game with an injury thats been masked by an injection and not knowing about the injury or injection, yet giving 100%.
He's a great manager... they aren't easy to come by. He has a structure now... give them time to clear the majority of this squad so he can work without one hand tied behind his back.
Half the squad is his now. Stop with the aged excuses
@@bargepoled it's not the managers job to select and choose players for incoming transfers. The change of structure shows this.
@@bargepoledwhat half. deluded.
Its not about clearing out the squad. The players he brought in haven't made the team any better. Compare him with Unai Emery.
Its not about clearing out the squad. The players he brought in haven't made the team any better. Compare him with Unai Emery.
I think there will be a change. The whole managerial structure of the club has been upended and renewed. A total fresh start. New beginnings. Arguably harsh, but arguably necessary
Arguably so
I reckon INEOS will give ten hag 1 more season with the new structure. They are not idiots, they would have known about his previous stint with Ajax, and what he achieved when working with a good footballing structure. Another reason is that this summer, there are a lot of clubs looking for new managers, so we might not be able to get the most suitable candidate. I would love for him to stay next season and see what ten hag can really do , and if there is potential then give him a new contract
Fully agree here, 100% spot on.
Yes sure, give him time to make more 100M useless signings and to finish even below Chelsea! 👍
@@MV______ lol thanks for making me laugh😂 , ETH at Ajax didn’t have this much transfer power like he did now at United, it’s not his fault they didn’t want to pay the 25 mill for antony and only panic at the last minute. Let him do the coaching and leave the transfer matters to the right people
Right. I'd give him 2 more seasons unless something disastrous happens.
I liked EtH. But I’m disillusioned by him being dogmatic on a certain philosophy. He needs to invent new strategies and tactics.
Till majority of these players leaves having an identity a style of play isn't gonna be as easy as it looks cos most of these players aren't good enough or are too lazy to absorb any tactics the coach implements. Why do u think we've had the same bloody issues with manager after manager for many years.
I really can’t wait for some normal style of play. This season it was chaos. Hope we can see anything modern or better than chaos next season
it can only get better 😂
i dont want to blame everything on our injuries this season but we have seen last season that ten hag can make us a good team. this season everything is just weird and cursed. the whole defense was basically never available, weird ingame referee decisions and weak individual player mistakes. i hope ten hag gets one more year to show that this season was too much out of his control
Wilcox go for it. Audit is what we needed
So, NO for Champions League 😆
Eric is a man of Detail so he is building from the foundations that's why you can see the U18 and U23 play the same brand of football since Eric became Unites's Manager
Can guarantee Eric will have at least another season. Ineos have said they want to walk to the correct decision, not run to the wrong one.
Your what should Uniteds style of play be is basically word for what what de Zerbi does
Yes, we have had a debilitating list of injuries to key players this season which has undoubtedly hampered our progress this season. But the main problem that EtH has faced (and any other manager would have faced) is the fact that the players we have DO NOT fit the style of play that EtH wanted to play.
So the main task for Wilcox & Ashworth is to get the right players, once we have the right players in the squad that fits the style of play that we want, then and only then can you assess whether EtH is the right manager to take us forward.
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I want to see a front foot, quick, dynamic, possession based playing style. Coupled with some pragmatism, for example when you are 3-0 up, don't down tools but play with some caution to ensure the result. We need a recruitment system that gets players who are hungry, technically sound, can do what they are told and represent the clubs traditional values. Mostly these should be younger, developing talent, who are robust and injury resistant, with a sprinkling of more experienced players to guide the younger ones along. To start on this process we have to get rid of the dross, which in all honesty is probably 50% of the first team squad.
We have witnessed all the aspect of model football we want to see in last season, the play was so promising, suddenly the play is missing from United team, shoulder say the coach has changed or it's about players not performing to coach demand??
honestly i dont ask much for playing style. I dont ask for possesion based style. i dont want us to be like city. i just want more verticality in the game. I want things to move quicker. i want the wings to actually run! remember Bayern munich 2012-2013? thats for me is the most entertaining team for the past 15 years imo.
Zombie squad and chaotic games. Great video Sam
It's undeniable that injuries have played a huge part. Im still a ten hag believer and think the players are right there with him.
Sign players with passion for the game of football and players who give their all in what they’re being paid to do.
It’s funny cause Sancho is THAT different winger we need.. even Amad and neither get have gotten sufficient game time
Sancho was booted from man city. You feel him being stupid is Ten Hag fault?
Never mind Ten Hag's suitability, what about Jason Wilcox' credentials?After retiring from football he was a local radio football pundit until he landed a job in 2012 as a coach (then head coach, then Academy director) at Man City's Academy until he left and spent last year as Technical Director at Southampton. So let's look at that...
We all know that being a pundit means nothing.
To my knowledge hr has no experience in coaching or managing a first team anywhere.
He's only spent a year at Southampton, and I couldn't assess his time there until someone explains to me what a Technical Director is, what they do, and what impact they have on a team's success. Southampton are currently in a playoff position in the Championship.
So really we need to look at is decade or so involvement with Man City's academy to properly assess his merit.
In that time he won one title and lost two cup finals. So far as I am aware, the Academy has during that time produced no regular first team players for Man City.
I am unsure what qualifies his to be sitting in judgement over Ten Hag, Eredivisie winner three times, ELF Cup winner at Utd and FA Cup finalists (at least, at this point) twice.
It seems to me as though we're just repeating the same old song, hoping we luck into success at some point.
Big Up SamWise Ganji
Lovely
The issue with the falling out with the players part is, how many managers are these players going to fall out with, when is it going to stop
How falling out with stupid sancho is a problem? Garnacho is million times better than that idiot.
Ten hag took over the academy and they won the league. Give ten hag time. He is the man
Never knew a technical director can be such a powerful figure at the club. Basically putting ETH under probation again and under assessment plus dictating the style of play. This really reduces the role of the manager to basically a football coach. Not sure how this can work with any manager with even a slight hint of confidence in his own abilities. Folding my arms and waiting for more drama to come.
What are you saying? U lack 1:13 wisdom, knowledge and understanding? which?
With the players we have right now, counter-attacking football is the best we can have. just like what we did under Ole in his first season.
We should desist from spending heavily on players right now and look towards free transfer and bossman deals till we can balance books. we have players who are on heavy payment but contribute little or nothing to the club in terms of performance.
wage structure should be looked into this summer and reduced it drastically better wages should be on a performance level, and not the significant 150% and long-term we have been doing for over a decade now.
It is high time players play for their wages
Finally someone who understands. The mentality of the majority of these players are counter attacking football mindset. Rashford is a prime example this. The problem now is the coach is changing this and won't back down from the decision.
we all are shouting beautiful football, it won't happen in a season. Guardiola sold almost every man city player
United dont play with width anymore, and ten Hag is known for his philosophy of minimal width, which is what he is doing at the club. Where we start wide and then compact the play in the final 3rd, like he did at Ajax. Minamal width and rotating the cm and cam and wings.
Got to build a team/ squad on a 352 formation that are capable of playing in different positions and ALL with pace, correct attitude and mentality! Tough task ahead! Get on it Ineos!
Buying a player like Rasmus Hojlund does not fit with the need for "Technical Players, all capable in possession". In post Fergie time United was in its best with Martial, Rashford and Greenwood. They all are gifted players with huge technical abilities. Exchanging technical ability with Power Work and Height did not pay well.
They should bring a manager who resonates with their plans ,
Eth is a good manager and he can be a great manager for us
ETH is a good manager but man united have broken him…like Ole, Van Gal, Jose, Moyles, Ragnik…happens with every manager that comes in 😂
@@leonbell5141 Maybe. But the point is unlike other United coaches this guy is the one who has the best ability to lead this team. Jose/Lvg has better credentials but not a right choice. Only bcos Ole is a legend he got the job and he was not fit for any top teams in the world. Ragnick is a sensible guy and again his credentials are not good enough for us. Moyes needless to say it’s not his fault. It’s a shame that Fergie after all his experience he made a mistake there.
Actually, this is what I want to see..
To have a little bit of critical appraisal of the manager.
And how he(the manager) think would improve the situation.
For example, if now we have had a two separated blocks when it comes to pressing, maybe the solution is to find a fast center back.
If he(the manager) thinks he needs another fullback or a striker is up to him how the solution is.
Then, Wilcox as technical director will try to tell him (ETH), how he thinks, to solve the problem.
But, in the end they need together as a co worker rather than a boss with sub-ordinate relationship.
Wilcox, never had the experience of sacking a manager just because he thinks the solution is different.
He never had the chance to sack pep guardiola. But now he has the chance.
Be patient with sir jim we will be back at the top,sooner than expected,mark it.
‘Frankensquad’ might be a better term for this lot
I thought the same haha
❤🎉Sam
most of the existing players cannot play most of the characteristics of your desired 'game model'.
Ralf said you determine style of play, then build the squad. Listed several clubs that have a style, ex. atletico. Simple.
Hello Sam
No-one can really judge ETH. Injuries...plus Sancho...Anthony....Greenwood...Ronaldo etc. No time to train and prepare with the same players fom week to week. Disaster!
Same person who keeps playing rashford game after game when he's done nothing to guarantee a start in the team
Its just a shamble. If your team of MU plays with such games of pushing back after a break through and instead of counterattacks, passing back to defenders. No crosses or strikes when in the penalty box, instead toying around with passes that are dreadful. Time to see a new build team. Currently we see an overall and complete shamble.
Manager without a proper tactics to hold games when winning. Losing to lower tier clubs and worst get battered by top tier clubs. We need a complete change simple.
The problem is we don't have the players that fit the gameplan we want to play. Tell me which coach on earth can play a high line successfully with Maguire, Lindelof, Varane and Evans, Wan Bissaka who adds nothing to our attacking game.
I agree with a lot of what you have said but I totally disagree with your comment about Ten Hag's position being untenable IF he has fallen out with some of the players in the squad.
Who runs the team - the manager or the players?
Did Fergie ever fall out with players?
Of course he did, it was up to the players to fall in line with the managers ideals and style of play, not up to the players to pick and choose what they do, when they do it and how they play.
Remember Manchester United have employed some of the best managers in the world in an attempt to get back to the top and the majority of this squad have, for whatever reason downed tools for all of them - Van Gaal, Mourinho, Rangnick etc. So who is to blame, the managers or the players?
The easy option is to sack the manager which is what we have done. We need to start turning that around as over the last 11 years it has been proved that it doesn't work. Now is the time to act on Ralph Rangnick's parting words - this squad needs open heart surgery.
Let us start by weeding out those players who are putting in sub standard performances week in, week out. Rashford, Martial, Anthony, Casemiro, Varane, Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Lindelof to name just a few. Now here is a shocker I would also get rid of Bruno too, his petulant behaviour and constant whinging doesn't set a good example to the rest of the team. He gives the ball away far too often and is often wasteful in possession.
We need a squad that plays for each other and not their own glory and egos.
Phew, glad I got that off my chest.
2:10 identity
If we look at Ten Hags signings, would they all be signed by Ajax to fit their style? Martinez, Onana and Antony are from Ajax, Martinez is the only one proving he is worthy. Onana needs a full season of good performances now that he has single handedly cost us the UCL. Antony just hasnt got going. However, Casemiro, Eriksen, Malacia, Hojlund, Amrabat n Mount are all players who tick few boxes as in some are good in possession while poor out of possession. Some have legs and can press whilst not having the physicality to win tough duels. The biggest issue is the injury record of those he signed and also the incompaitability of the style he wants to implement. ETH tenure started well, 1st season he got the best out of players he didnt sign and played a style befitting the strengths but when the tide turned this season, and expectancy was high for performances to be more dominant, he has choked.
If THG allowed to Ralf he wouldn't experience audit now
Interesting
I think the first step is to restore our coach dignity just look at arsenal, arteta is not the best of the coaches he made some risky decisions but the club stood with him, they even gave him a new contract if the coach is regularly disrespected then we are doomed Inios should end this debate of new manager they should give him a new contract
Wilcox hasn't changed his mind after Sunday? Respect.
He is not flimsy and shallow minded like you!
@@Culturelens good for him, let’s hope he gets rid of the rubbish on the pitch as soon as he possibly can, preferably before the match tomorrow.
Eric is not leaving this season cah he just got into a final just like last season
Willcocks has got one hell of a job on his hands 😂
De Zerbi is Man United’s man, he ticks almost all the boxes for what a modern United manager should be
Erik Ten Hag ticks all the boxes but these players are physically, technically and mentally unable to play modern football. We need to get rid of probably 13 players in the summer.
@@seanfitzgerald8575 he’s had 2 seasons and he’s had the academy to call on, yet the football barring yesterday’s match has regressed drastically this season. De Zerbi is overachieving with a mid table Brighton, and have a clear identity
The departure of Fred and sabitzer rlly costed us. The signing of Mason Mount in his weakest form and at a high price also ruined our philosophy as well as the signing of amrabat.
So....
According to those bullet points, what United need are:
Strong, technically adept, fast, and fit players.
Basically unicorns.
Doesn't every club want that?
We should take into consideration that a lot of those signings aren't first choice signings
To me it's another chef to confuse it all!....let one person control the game plan, systems and players they want...
We have to give EtH a chance! Stick with him. 3rd season is the one!
The board and the fans all want to have the cake and eat it too. There is no way a team can be reshaped with a drastic change in playing style and still challenge for the titles athe the same time. It's not possible. And yet it is demanded. If there had been a proper clearout when Ten Hag came in and a smart rebuild started, maybe it would've been different now. We must not expect any results for a couple of years - just let all the deadwood to be sold and gradually include new and youth players into the system.
I'd rather have us finish 10th in the league once or twice with no scrappy/lucky cup runs but see that the team is actually shaping into something positive. Ten Hag was brought to implement his style and his philosophy. Instead he's choosing to be pragmatic and scrape some results while sacrificing any progress, because nobody has the patience. The pressure has got to him. Sell/release all the deadwood, give him another year if he has a clear vision of what he wants to do with the team. If not, clear all the deadwood anyway and bring in someone else to the grinder.
Its a miracle we are where are in the league, two wingers who never pass to the striker, hash and Garsnatcho personal glory hunting, hashford thinking hes Maradona and the truth is if he was a hot knife he couldn't cut through butter, 95% of his efforts to go past player's end in embarrassment
I just Don't see a better manager available atm
I'm with TenHag but I swear everytime he sub Antony on its puts me at unease. .like put Amad on first atleast. 😢
Me personally think that ETH should be given another season to get rid of the Dead wood & Bring in the right players. Then go from there & If still doesn't work then get another manager if there is one ??
how is Wilcox going to decide our playing style ? Based on what?
Employ Rugby league methods to stamp out giving the ball away and accountability in defence.Thats what has been killing us.
The problem is the players that don’t understand changes in a game , overpaid middle class players all except 3-4 players
After the subs, United go down hill so fast it's like a different team was playing.
You do realize you just described De Zerbi ball, right?
Here's a comment for some engagement
My club is going through a 🎢
« Patient build up through controlled possession » that’s what we saw against Coventry for 60min and also in lots of other games. That’s what Ten Hag wants, it’s clear. Problem is, players don’t do that for 90min, and they panic every time they face adversity.
I feel like people refuse to see that this is Utd style of play when they are mentally here. It’s biased by the poor results. Problem is, they’re not being able to do it an entire game
I’ve watched Southampton a few times and they actually play some good football. I’d be fine with that.
Our identity is established, however, your patience seems to be waning.
The supreme waffler!
Who hired the U-18's coach? Was it ETH? If so, then we should trust that is his vision.
We haven't got the players for your plan it's as simple as that
Man Utd new game strategy/philosophy should be, take lead, try to add to lead, don't relinquish said lead and end up drawing/losing the game.
Can ETH buy into that simple strategy? Not from what I've seen since he's been in charge!
City’s u18’s do not play the way the first team do. Clearly not, with just foden being a regular first teamer then they buy the talent in…
First sack the medical staffs then rebuild the squad
Now Wilcox is here what is the role of fletcher now.
Ball Boy... or rather Ball Man. 😆
Man United will be playing an attacking 3-4-2-1 next season. Look at the bigger picture, learn a coaches tactical history. Also what kind of player are they seriously looking at. You’ll see the answer.
This manager is not feet on our club, what said are you on ?
It would be useless to bring in this highly rated people and then limit them not to get their own manager
Ten Hag produced a new-identity and no one knows what to call it ,other than buy the most rubbish players you can find and mix them up with other rubbish players that are already at the club and develop a style and system that not one person on the planet knows what to call it ,it’s getting to the stage that it’s just hilarious now , if it was a movie it would be called. Carry on United ,
Ten Hag is mafia bound Glazers player for money laundry! People nowadays are just blind!
@@MV______ suddenly everything makes sense thanks
Bring Thomas tuchel at United 🇩🇪🇩🇪
To do what