Roger Hodgson and Rick Davies shared a musical chemistry in Supertramp that created this beautiful balance that rivals the songwriting collaboration of Lennon/McCartney and Gilmour/Waters. That is what created their success and legacy. Not just Roger, and not just Rick. From a musical standpoint, Rick has a more interesting and unique approach with his songwriting. (for ex: Asylum, Another Mans Women, Crime Of The Century, Rudy and Waiting So Long). These songs are incredibly dynamic and Rogers contributions can’t be understated. From the guitar work on Crime Of The Century and Another Mans Women, to the secondary vocals on Asylum and Rudy. These songs on their own would not be same. Same goes with Hodgson; his poppy philosophical songs are fantastic and basic groundwork’s that Rick helped evolve with his bluesy vocals and piano. Not only that, but Doug, John and Bob helped create the ‘sound’ of Supertramp with their immense talent behind them. To say that one member on the band ‘is the band’ is ridiculous. Supertramp will forever be an enormously under appreciated band. It’s such a shame Roger and Rick can’t just reform the band one last time before it’s too late. Rick’s cancer has subsided for now and Roger still hasn’t lost his voice. Put the ego aside, play a one off show in Paris and close the Supertramp story.
I have to agree with Roger in this interview. when he says that he thinks the time has passed for another collaboration with Rick. it would be something else to see such a thing. but the undeniable truth is so much time has passed. that a reunion would probably only amount to a hollow representation of the original Supertramp. and there comes a point where maybe it is better left as is. after all time go by by and things change. it's sort of same thing as why the classic rock genre is no more. but the music is still there for us to listen to. it's a shame but that's the way of it and something we have to accept.
I'll add to that. Dougie Thompson's baselines were journey's in and of themselves. I could listen to a whole album (and I listened to these albums a lot) and just follow the melodic line or the groove all the way through they were so interesting. They would never repeat themseves, and they would push all the songs forward. It may well have been Hodgeson's arangements, I dont know. But it's been a long time. Maybe the chemistry isn't there anymore; maybe they don;t all 'have Roger's drive to do the types of of rehearsals it would take to put together a whole Supertramp show, because they were pretty epic and complex. Supertramp isn't exactly music you can just jam on in improvisation. You need a pretty tight band to do this kind of music.
Supertramp is not just one person. It was the blend of musicianship betweern Hodgson and Davis, but also the other 3 players, especially the fills from John Helliwell, which enriched a lot their sound. Few mainstream rock bands had a saxophonist, as a permanent player. Let’s not forget that Supertramp only started achieving commercial success after the other 3 members joined the band. So, it was not all a Hodgson and Davis thing. In my opinion, Hodgson was a master at developing the structure or framework of new songs, like the sequence of chords, the orchestration and arrangements. And of course he had an unmatched high-pitched voice. However, even Hodgson songs have a lot of contributions from Davis, and vice-versa. Would “School”, composed by Hodgson, be the same song without the harmonica solo by Davis in the beginning, and additionally the piano solo in the middle? Or without the sax and clarinet solo sections of Helliwell? Hodgson’s songs’ skeleton was really good, but the virtuoso contributions of Rick Davis and Helliwell raised it to another level completely and provided the flesh. Hodgson was a great song developer, but he needed his mates to help with the tunes development in terms of technical musicianship’s complexity (piano and sax solos). Hodgson’s piano abilities were far from matching those of Davis’. But this same reasoning also is valid for Davis. Let’s take the example of “Goodbye Stranger”, composed by Davis. Would it be the same song without the vocal interchange between him and Hodgson during the chorus? And without that crazy talented extended guitar solo at the end? Of course not. They complemented each other because no matter who composed the tune, he always let the other participate with instrumental relevant lines to the song. So, in the end, it sounded Supertramp. They achieved greatness together, and they created magic when joining efforts. On their own, they are still good, but they lack that outstanding spark from the 70’s. And even though Hodgson had most of the hits, it does not mean Rick’s songs were lower in quality. They were just less popular in terms of sales, but artistically speaking, they were equally great. Here’s a list of the most famous songs from each of them: Roger Hodgson: The Logical Song Give a Little Bit Dreamer It’s Raining Again Breakfast in America Take the Long Way Home Hide in Your Shell And songs written by Rick Davies: Bloody Well Right Crime of the Century Goodbye Stranger Rudy Asylum Another Man’s Woman Ain’t Nobody But Me Downstream From Now On Gone Hollywood Lover Boy We can not really say one musician is better than the other. All those songs helped made their albums great, and, as Hodgson puts it, Supertramp wrote entire albums, because it “took listeners on a 40-minute journey”. That 40-minute journey would have not been completed without Rick’s tunes, and Hodgson for sure understands this. Both were great, and that greatness grew exponentially when they collaborated. Wish they could have understood that, and would have stuck together. They already are an immortal band with just 14 years under their belt. But they could even had reached wider acclaim if they had not disbanded and kept putting out material for the past decades. But, we still have the old albums to enjoy their greatness when there was no rivalries. So, let’s keep enjoying them! :-)
Fantastic comment , I thought the same by listening to the interview. And also not to forget the very nice bass-lines from Dougie Thompson , they are as well important for the typical Supertramp sound ...
Roger was the hero of my youth. I heard his words over an over again and listend to the music of Supertramp with these great arrangements. Without discounting your contribution, Roger, I think you had a congenial mix of talent in your band. After you left, Supertramp lost it´s success. But you did also. Nowadays you play the old songs again and people love it. It didn´t work that well with only your voice and the piano. It was better to try to bring back the old sound. There will be no reunion. It would have been a great opportunity, but it is lost. Probably because of completely banal egoistic reasons. As so often. However, my son hears Supertramp borrowing my car. It is timeless music.
Look at this video ( th-cam.com/video/pGviK7VB4jM/w-d-xo.html ), an interview with Rick Davies, an aged man, who's years after his carcinosis apparently in a bad constitution. Very sad. But you will never again call for - or dream of a reunion! "Some things never change" - truly, but this dream - unfortunately - should be buried quickly.
This designation would fit with Jeff lynne from ELO, but not with Roger Hodgson as the master mind of Supertramp. A lot good songs came from Rick Davies f.e. crime of the century, goodbye stranger, Rudy etc.
@@sagdieWahrheit Supertramp had a synergy that gave a group of young men a seeming wisdom beyond their years. Rick was eight years older than Roger. I just see this as a case of a rebellious young Roger feeling that he needed to leave older brother in order to grow up. Anyone who isn't creating many versions of a song doesn't understand writing in general. Everything is trash which means one spends their time writing at the bottom of a garbage can.
No! Roger and Rick were a team just like Lennon-McCartney and Mick and Keith. That’s why neither he or the band never recaptured the magic and success.
I think Roger was a little disrespectful to Rick and dismissive of his contribution to Supertramp. Why are his songs "the real sound of Supertramp" but in his words "Rick has the name but it's not the real Supertramp" . The simple fact is that their contribution to the song catalogue was roughly 50/50 and as Rick sang all his own penned songs that means he was 50% of the sound. He also states his songs "have stood the test of time better than Rick's......well that's his opinion, it's certainly not mine. Added to that he infers Eye of the Storm was superior to Brother where your Bound...again not in my opinion
I personally still listen to 40 minutes of music, actually I have gone back to vinyl over any of the modern formats. There is something to be appreciated there.
I'm the same way maybe it's due to my age. coming from a time when the only formats where albums. unless a person wanted to listen to radio stations which I like many others did. but if I wanted to my favorite groups I would listen to the whole album. even if not all the songs were my favorites. it's also the same reason I don't like music services like Pandora. if I want to listen to a favorite group. I don't want to listen to a bunch of groups that are similar to them.
I love Roger Hodgson obviously but I think he miss the point : it's not only about him but about the audience, we will love to see and to hear SUPERTRAMP again, I mean with both Roger & Rick ! and the others guys too !
I was always a Hodgson fan, just a great musician and songwriter. Saw him a couple years back in Williamsport PA doing a solo gig along with his longtime touring musician and he was very good. After hearing this interview, which I’m shocked I missed as its now six years old, I couldn’t believe the man’s ego with some of the things he said. Seems very bitter about things in a sort of passive aggressive way. You’re supposed to mellow out as you get older and it seems like Roger carries some serious grudges with him towards Davies and Supertramp. When you think about it, you never heard Davies really say anything about the breakup, took the high road on it. I’d love to hear his side on things. I always heard the break up was caused by Davies’ wife being the manager on his insistence. Who knows? What a waste though, they were 10x more prolific when they were together and it’s a damn shame there weren’t more songs and albums done after 1983 by the same five guys that made it so great. They could come up with all the excuses they want, the bottom line is they should’ve put the damn egos aside and stayed together.
Technically, Rick Davies is the founder of the band, as Roger Hodgson auditioned from a music publication, melody maker. Basically, like many bands, whoever sang the song also wrote it. I think both Davies and Hodgson were very talented musicians and the success they enjoyed was a result of a collaborative effort, not just one person. Davies should be honoring the agreement they made upon Hodgson's departure. I saw Supertramp perform in 1997 and I didn't hear any songs Hodgson produced. This doesn't mean he isn't doing it, I just didn't hear it on that particular concert. I know fans have long awaited a reunion. Unfortunately, this will never happen. There are too many long standing issues of which the public doesn't know about. Still, Supertramp was a great band, who produced excellent music and made an impact on the music industry.
Did he say he left Supertramp and gave Rick the name? Rick founded the band. And it's complete BS that Roger's songs "have stood the test of time" better than Rick's.
Grateful to have been able to see Supertramp before Roger left. It was a remarkable evening of music and musicianship in 1983 that stays etched in my memory .
No, Roger. They are Supertramp songs and the band helped you create them as well ~ made them what we have all come to love. They are not your songs. They will always be Supertramp songs. You may well have written them alone in your bedroom at age 19, etc, but it was the work done on them by you and your band mates that counts. That band was called Supertramp. They made those songs (and many Rick Davies compositions as well) extremely well known and successful. Please do continue to play them alone without Supertramp & enjoy doing so. Supertramp fans also have the right to enjoy all of Supertramp's albums and songs (even if you wrote the lyrics & some of the music for many of them). "All my songs were put out as Supertramp but, actually, they're my songs." It's hard to believe that I actually just heard a grown, intelligent man make that ridiculous statement! Seriously?? Imagine Lennon or McCartney babbling such nonsense over their Beatles songs!!
Rick wrote some great songs and for me songs after the split like 'Better days' is still very Supertramp in essence and sound. John also contributed a lot to the Supertramp sound. I didn't like Roger's comments in suggesting Supertramp was some kind of backing band for his songs.
Creo que está casi todo dicho no cuesta nada dejar el ego a un lado y cerrar el capitulo de supertramp con un ultimo gran concierto en directo con todos los antiguos componentes de Supertramp. Además seria una muestra de madurez espiritual, una lección de vida para los músicos del mundo y para todas las personas en general. El tren de la vida solo pasa una vez quizás ha llegado el momento de pensar que tanto RICK es parte de ROGER y Roger es parte de Rick solo con esa combinación nació el sonido de supertramp el talento musical de Rick basado en el blues y el talento musical de Roger basado en el folk fue la mezcla perfecta junto con sus letras y melodías espirituales no podían no ser maravillosos. DEBEIS DEJAR UN LEGADO COMO "SUPERTRAMP" ...Simplemente lloraría de alegría
Roger Hugdson, thank you for creating such a wonderful music. Your instrumental and vocal work are unique, profound and so relatable. These songs always bring warms memories of my youth and present too. 🙏🫶
I never got the real deal about endorsing silly comparisons. Rick and Roger are both just awesome - in theis particular and specific way. They were together the huge creative strenght that made Supertramp what they still are, almost 50 years later. I love them both: Roger's life questions, philosophy leaking from his songs, important matters of the world; Rick's passionate piano solos, love songs. It was a match! No need to create a whole discussion about who's better. They are both Supertramp, ans Supertramp is better than any discussion!
Why can't you just be humble Roger? I mean... Rick was amazing... the whole band was incredible. You do yourself no favours by claiming the band's sound for yourself. Get over yourself already!
Yes, Roger, you are a very, very lucky man. Not nearly as lucky, however, that you have existed in our lives. God Bless You. I love you dearly and what you have brought to my life.
Gänsehaut, Goosebumps. My first Supertramp concert was the Famous Last Words tour - in Munich 1983. Epic! I was a young teen back then, I will never forget my very fast concert. I went to see Supertramp in 1985 with the "Brother Where you Bound" tour in Munich as well. I have to admit, I really liked that album. My next encounter was at the Beacon Theater in NYC in 2003 or so - Supertramp, with Mark Hard attempting to take on Roger's parts. Nice try. But "Sooner or Later" is pretty good. Then I went to 2 Roger Hodgson Concerts in 2017 and 2018 believe. In Tarrytown, NY and some place in NJ - on my birthday. I was amazed to see that there teenagers singing along with the songs - just like me 40 years earlier. I haven’t managed seeing Rick perform since the epic Beacon theater performance, and I just missed his “Ricky and the Rockets” evening in the Hamptons last summer - which would have been an 1.5h drive from my house. I hope I will catch him next time. But seeing Roger on stage has more goosebump potential for me.
Dasa Interview war etwas gegenüber Roger Hodgson geschleimt. Seine erste Soloplatte war nicht das erwartete Supertramp Album. Und Roger Hodgson als Mastermind von Supertramp zu bezeichnen ist gegenüber Rick Davies und den anderen Bandmitgliedern unfair. Sicher hat Hodgson die meisten guten Songs geschreiben und er hat die markantere Stimme. Aber einige gute Lieder kamen von Rick Davies. Und erst die Synthese beider bewirkte den markanten Supertramp Sound. Und getrennt hatten beide keinen großen Erfolg mehr.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who can see & hear that. It's almost embarrassing to hear him speak. If you look through some older interviews from the eighties after he left the band, it's all there as well. I think he must have been very hard to work with. A genius for certain, but the "spiritual" ones often enough wind up being the biggest ego-trippers.
Every so often two very talented people meet and create something in which the whole is even greater than the sum of the two parts...Lennon and M'Cartney is the obvious example where each spurs the other to a higher level. This happened with Rick and Roger, their styles were completely different yet they complimented each other so beautifully. Neither has or ever will achieve the heights alone that they achieved together.
I saw them many times in Toronto mostly within the first ten rows... Davies seemed very much like the leader of the band in each of those concerts. Hodgson provided the high pitched sining he was famous for, so the two of them together with the ban performed deep textures of rock, blues and pop. Hodgson was the pop... I think he gained a false sense of entitlement with the success and recognition, failing to capture the same level of success the day he left the band, you can sense an ownership of that same level of entitlement some 40 years later. Some people just grow beyond the need of being a part of a team, band, gaggle... whatever. As long as Roger is happy I’m cool with it... people evolve even after making bad decisions early in life. I’m just not convinced he’s ever going to be happy after seeing this interview.
I think of Roger as the Paul McCartney of Supertramp. With that being said, imagine that Paul decided to leave in 1969, and John, George and Ringo decided to replace him. Imagine trying to replace Paul McCartney, and still have this band called The Beatles. I think that Paul would say the same things that Roger did. They can't help the fact that they were instrumental to the success of their respective bands
Very well said, Pink Floyd is an example where they did go on without one of the writers, another Roger who was maybe the Lennon of Floyd, and the end result was lacking, not that the members are lacking as Hodgson tells us here, but that the magic, or more truthfully, the gift from God, is about the group of individuals, who, for some reason unknown to mankind, transcend time and space only if they are all present as one unit.
Probably I'm one of the few, who like more the spirit and the voice of Rick in Supertramp. And so it comes to pass, that "Brother where you bound" was the better album for me compared to "Eye in the storm". In these times ... And I never understood, why Rick felt it was necessary to re-cast Roger's voice "at the same pitch". Anyway: These two albums were the last I bought - and they'll be the last. Maybe I'm too romantic for this world ...
Maybe when you have all too much time on your hand, give "Along came mary" from RHs "Open the door" a chance and right when it gets a little too cheesy you should switch to "Tenth avenue breakdown" from RDs "Slowmotion".
Its just a shame that groups break up with great duo song writers, Roger Rick, Lennon McCartney. When they write together its magic, egos get in the way.
He visto en directo a Supertramp tres veces pero nunca con Roger Hodgson y no quisiera morirme sin verlos juntos de nuevo. Este grupo junto con Pink Floyd son lo mejor que ha dado la música. Deberían ser inmortales.
Love this man and his music. Roger was a joy to meet in person and to talk to. I will always remember it, as it happened in Edmonton - during K-days. I enjoyed his antique (white with amazing designs) Grandma organ he brought over from England, to enjoy playing with among so many other awesome instruments he played, like the electric drums. Thank you Roger for touching my heart and soul. It is now 2018 June and this is the first time I am seeing these interviews and I love the awareness in self you are expressing - I'm going through this now myself. Its amazing, eh?
Crime of the Century blew me away from start to finish. Crisis? What Crisis was as good if not better, the albums that followed did not quite have the magic but the music was still a big influence for me. I could feel the magic was waning when Famous Last Words came out, but It's Raining Again was pure top drawer Supertramp, As was Rick's 'Bonny'. Still love the album, love the band that was, love Rick (he is from my home town) love Roger, all that has happened is just how it should be. Despite wanting a reunion I respect and accept the fact that it ain't gonna happen. I am grateful to have been alive throughout the Supertramp years. I can't tell you how glad I am that it happened.
@@francescostrangis9703 well that indelibly stamps your opinion all over my breakfast in America, which I was enjoying. Even in the quietest moments I can see your overture was not foolish, my what a soap box opera this is turning out to be. The simple life is simply not enough, we have appearances we must keep up. Easy does it!
@@francescostrangis9703 Well I can't really tell you as it is impossible for me to choose a Supertramp album over another. They all have strengths and weaknesses, however if it helps you gauge how much I love Crisis? What Crisis? I can tell you that I am on my third vinyl copy having played the other two til I wore out the grooves.
That's great interview !!! I really like it !!! It was the first time i've heard somebody say something about the Supertramp reunion and now i know that this dream is not possible anymore...unfortunately.
I mean i love Roger Hodgson solo works as much as i love the works of his with Supertramp, but, let's consider he played bass guitar at debut album and second album, when he played bass at that time. He was just a great band member great composer, he was'nt arragont like that once that time. Then he discover his talent, his unique talent that doesnt match with Supertramp harmony, once he realised that, he want to leave, but he knew that only way of leaving was that being an essential part of Supertramp and being recognised by people, then he had a fanbase, and here u go u had the exit. Dont comeback Roger u're better where u're. Bless u. And Roger it's not just ur songs. The band made a huge enstrumantal work on it. It's not just urs. And that's why u cant deal with Rick Davies, he's the genuis of music, not fancy songwriting, he doesnt like too much fancy lyrics. You're the one that popular songwritter, people love ur words much much more than Rick's , but the thing is music is just not about lyrics. Put that in ur head, i dont believe that u really mean it, u just stage ur act. AGAİN IT'S NOT JUST UR SONG, dont fool people, u can fool ur fans, but not me , i know better than anyone else, the soul of music of Supertramp, i know ur impact on it. No less No more. "It's not MAGİC, it's songwriting". Listen Supertramp's Casual Conversation. It's just about the matter that i'm talking.
+Atilla Ayılgan he didn't say anything about it being about "Lyrics". Pumping more fuel into the fire about that S-Tramp lineup as compared to the post RH lineup doesn't matter any more. Fans want to see a reunion...but in a Business Sense...there is no logic to it from either side. Neither wants to put differences aside to give the FANS what they want...so we're left with the Albums from that time-frame...no big deal...put a set of Headphones on and enjoy the music they produced.
How you bore me, you go on and on, endlessly, no matter what I say your gonna bore me anyway, so much that I’ll talk in my sleep, then I’ll weep🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼
Roger sounds arrogant these days, but it's because he's in protection mode. He got pissed that Rick and Supertramp started performing his penned songs during their shows, when the band only performed Rick penned songs before. It was an unwritten rule after RH left the band that they would only do RD songs during live shows. It's unfortunate that RD started performing those songs and the decision to do so made Dougie Thompson leave the band. However, legally Davies has every right to perform all of Supertramps catalogue. I can't blame RD for wanting to include all of those all ST songs to get asses in the seats, but it is kind of not cool at the same time. This didn't give RH the right to be arrogant about his role in the band. He was one part of all that mad ST magical. He was not responsible for the magic. Supertramp and Hodgson have had flashes of the old magic since the breakup, but neither has reproduced it. They were better together, neither are as good apart.
+Paul Costello same tired observations as the Gilmour/Waters garbage that has been produced since the 80's. It doesn't matter who was arrogant...it only matters to what makes Business Sense currently to those involved. RD would never accept having RH back on the bankroll. That's a divorce settlement in reverse he would never allow to affect his Family for years to come...
+Anything4adollar Of course legally, it doesn't matter who is arrogant, but since there were comments made about this video as to his arrogance. I'm saying I understand how he would respond arrogantly to Supertramp performing songs that he had written. It doesn't matter legally and eventually I'm sure he will accept it, if he hasn't already. I think he's handled himself much more calmly than Roger Waters had in the past, but even Waters came to terms with Pink Floyd performing his songs. I'm not taking sides here. I like Supertramp now and I like Roger Hodgson. I can understand both sides. I think they are equally being silly though. They should just reunite. It's like a marriage, but it's not an actual marriage. They should get over it and tour and have fun together again. Just my opinion dude.
Paul Costello excellent points, dude?!? Yea, as Paul McCartney (as I'm sure others have as well) has said many times in the past...its an evil Business Industry. And at the end of the day, its all about Self Indulgent money grubbers who put their interests first. I have all of the RH included Tramp records to reminisce...so I'm happy
+Paul Costello Maybe I'm missing something here, but to me RH doesn't come across as being arrogant simply by mentioning that he WAS in fact more than "just" another singer/songwriter guy in Supertramp. That he must have played a leading role in arranging, producing and performing ST music is obvious if you compare RH's solo work to the band's output from the mid-80s onward. The man has every right to claim a little bit of credit for everything(!) he's contributed to the band's magic back in the day...
Hodgson has admitted that maybe he shouldn't have pursued a solo career...and it has taken him 30 years to recover from that choice. With Rick having Health Issues to deal with, ST is all but done.
God blesse you Mr Roger---I Have a question to you.Is the Artist that creates the magic in the hads of people or is the people that impose a stlyle to the artist:::::::::
Darf ich auf einen kleinen Übersetzungsfehler hinweisen?Als Roger von dem Cover von Crime of the century spricht,sagt er nicht 'bus' sondern 'bars' (Gitter),und meint damit das Gitter auf dem Cover,welches von 2 Händen gehalten wird! ;-)
@@jenl3162 I never want to forbid you or others their opinion. You gave yours and I gave mine. You wanted them to "rise above" their personal feelings, but I think they have a right to them. There is no need to condescend to an ardent feminist like me by telling me to relax. Yesterday I finally found, bought and played Supertramp's last album "Slow Motion." I quite liked it. Sure the thought occurred to me that Roger's voice would fit well with the other factors. But he is not a voice machine that exists just to suit fans. I feel I have no right to wish him to do something he doesn't wish to do. Have a nice day, sincerely, Jen.
Seperated from Supertramp to do something new but all he does is play Supertramp songs. There for they should have never seperated. But thats just my opinion as a fan. Its theyr life. For me, seperation killed everything for all of them. Together they were amazing. But at the End, thank you for all the great Songs.
Danke für das O-Ton-Interview! Keine Synchronstimmen drübergekleistert - wie wohltuend. Ansonsten stelle ich es mir ziemlich anstrengend vor, als Künstler immerfort nur auf Supertramp reduziert zu werden. Roger Hodgson hat so unendlich viele (andere) Facetten - wie man im Englischen so schön sagt: he's an artist in his own right. Ich liebe seine Solo-Alben und seine neuen Songs, die es leider nur sporadisch im Konzert zu hören gibt. So, und nun gönne ich mir den Luxus einer 52-minütigen Reise, mit Rogers Album "Open The Door" aus dem Jahre 2000... maybe that's totally old-school but on second thoughts: there's a huge vinyl revival going on right now - so maybe the desire for those well-arranged listening experiences/journeys that last an hour is more alive than ever. Long live Roger, Vinyl and the Musical Journey! :o)
What if Supertramp were inducted in to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, a reunion would be something special and that original five band members would play some of those classic songs!
Interesting how he says that he wrote his Supertramp songs by himself without, essentially, any input from the rest of the band, but yet he says there will be no Supertramp reunion until Rick and he "can come together." Come together how? You admit the rest of the band wasn't involved with you during the heyday of the band. Why do you need that now?
Great interview! After listening to Roger's words here I reassert in something i've said many times before, and it is that Supertramp needs Roger, but Roger doesn't need Supertramp at all. And I hope one day he find the time to release a new album with all those gems I'm sure he has. Last week I attend his two Spanish shows and I can't wait to see him again next month. His shows are so special, You never know what's going to happen, there's always a gap for a surprise.
+nuskysa Actually Supertramp doesnt need him to listen casual conversation song of supertramp then understand the real case. They were been great musicians as an old united Supertramp. But i think i love the Supertramp without Roger, much swingy much pure of blues.
+Atilla Ayılgan unfortunately, not too many agreed with you in the form of sales. Not my cup of tea, but, if you enjoyed that version of S-Tramp...that's all that matters
You obviously never saw Supertramp before Roger left, Rogers show is good, Supertramp with Roger was pure magic. It is a fine line, but an extremely important line.
Roger is arrogant. It has no style to put the contribution of the other Supertramps down. Where is the understatement? Rick wrote 65% of all Supertramp-songs - indeed not the Radio-hits. But not with ließ quality. RD wrote a lot of classics That became substitantial for Supertramp's unique sound like Crime Of The Century, Rudy, From Now On, Goodbye Stranger, Bloody Well Right, Cannonball, My Kind Of Lady and many more. And by the way: where is the honouring of the other brandmates who were essential for Supertramp? John Helliwells beautiful saxophon-Play, Bob Siebenbergs unique drum-groove and Dougie Thomson's bass? Sorry Mr. Hodgson - you alone were not Supertramp. Supertramp was a band and not a one-man-show.
I totally agree. I think Roger is being arrogant because of the way he left the band. Some of his songs were not well accepted by the band, which created a snowball of ego centrism between the members. Supertramp was an awesome BAND, and in almost all songs, there is indispensable participation of all members.
Roger's songs stand the test of time, one of my best memories of 1977 is seeing them at SPAC in Saratoga NY, BUT THERE WAS JUST SOMETHING ABOUT THE TWO GREAT KEYBOARDISTS SEEMINGLY RIFFING OFF ONE ANOTHER... EVEN IF HE DID WRITE IT ALL.
Aber Roger Hodgson als Mastermind von Supertramp zu bezeichnen ist gegenüber Rick Davies und den anderen Bandmitgliedern unfair. Sicher hat Hodgson die meisten guten Songs geschreiben und er hat die markantere Stimme. Aber einige gute Lieder kamen von Rick Davies. Und erst die Synthese beider bewirkte den markanten Supertramp Sound.
supertramp was Not one man,the beatles were not one man, pink floyd were not one man, queen were not one man...they were bands, think about it.......But in most bands there is maybe one vital member that makes a difference and if that one member leaves then the bands becomes different....ie....freddie died without him queen aint the same, when roger waters left floyd it took an album or two for gilmour to find his feet......hodgeson left supertramp rick davis carried on but it wasnt the same a sound was missing (rogers vocal ), can you imagine what the who would sound like without roger daltry..........rick and rogers vocal blend made supertramp one without the other is not supertramp.......
I love Supertramp! Please, of my three wishes for life, I just need to fulfill the dream of attending a Supertram concert; the other two I have already fulfilled. My first wish: to have the Berlin Wall demolished and my second wish: to attend the Olympic Games and I won an all-paid trip on a radio station to attend the Olympic Games. Please do a tour that includes Mexico, please? Blessings, Momy'z ツ
As much as I love all the songs, My favourite song is Hide In Your Shell, 💖💖💖💖 by the way, I still buy hard copy music, because I love to read who was involved in the making 😁
I to he honest really lien Famous Last Words so, i’m not sure why roger doesn’t like it so much. It has some of rogers best songs, It’s Raining Again, Don’t Leave Me Now, Ces’t Le Bon, Know Who You Are etc
The Difference Between Confidence And Arrogance,Its A Fine Line,Great Interview.Supertramp Was Of Its Time,No Need To Regroup....Not Many Bands As Successful As Them Avoid The Comeback,Supertramp Was As Big As Anyone In The 70s.......Dire Straits Never Got Back Together And I Hope Oasis Never Do Either,Can Always Play The Albums.
Absolutely, Roger Hodgson was the driving, guiding creative force who shaped the band and their distinct sound - I feel it in my heart through and through when Roger performs his songs in concert. His songs came from a very personal place within himself, which clearly is why they timelessly reach out to so many around the world, every walk of life and several generations.. "Hide in Your Shell" profoundly speaks to me on many levels, also having been shy and introverted myself - the song became a shoulder to lean on, which truly comforted and assured me there was someone (and countless others) who shared the same deep feelings I was experiencing. It helped me to "get my heart back on the road" and in turn, help others.. "loving is the way to help me, help you".. ♩ ♪ ♫ ♥
What do you mean "the" driving guiding creative force? Rick was the founding member. I am glad "Hide In Your Shell" helped you; I've been shy much of my life, too.
Roger Hodgson war vielleicht der wichtigste Mann bei Supertramp und hat die meisten Hits und eingängigsten Lieder bei Supertramp geschrieben. Ihn aber als Mastermind von Supertramp zu bezeichnen ist gegenüber Rick Davies und den anderen Mitgliedern unfair und unpassend. Von Rick Davies kamen auch etliche gute Songs ( z.B. Crime Of The Century, Goodbye Stranger, Rudy, From On Now, My Kind of Lady usw.) Und Supertramp hat gerade auch von den Gegensätzen zwischen Hodgson und Davies gelebt. Und die erste Soloplatte von Hodgson als das erwartete Supertramp Album zu bezeichnen ist auch falsch. Es war ein Roger Hodgson Album, ein gutes Album, aber nicht mehr Supertramp. Und danach hatten beide Seiten nicht mehr den Erfolg wie mit Supertramp.
Roger Hodgson and Rick Davies shared a musical chemistry in Supertramp that created this beautiful balance that rivals the songwriting collaboration of Lennon/McCartney and Gilmour/Waters. That is what created their success and legacy. Not just Roger, and not just Rick. From a musical standpoint, Rick has a more interesting and unique approach with his songwriting. (for ex: Asylum, Another Mans Women, Crime Of The Century, Rudy and Waiting So Long). These songs are incredibly dynamic and Rogers contributions can’t be understated. From the guitar work on Crime Of The Century and Another Mans Women, to the secondary vocals on Asylum and Rudy. These songs on their own would not be same. Same goes with Hodgson; his poppy philosophical songs are fantastic and basic groundwork’s that Rick helped evolve with his bluesy vocals and piano. Not only that, but Doug, John and Bob helped create the ‘sound’ of Supertramp with their immense talent behind them. To say that one member on the band ‘is the band’ is ridiculous.
Supertramp will forever be an enormously under appreciated band. It’s such a shame Roger and Rick can’t just reform the band one last time before it’s too late. Rick’s cancer has subsided for now and Roger still hasn’t lost his voice. Put the ego aside, play a one off show in Paris and close the Supertramp story.
Doctor Meowstein you’re second paragraph gave me goosebumps bumps. Beautifully said.
I have to agree with Roger in this interview. when he says that he thinks the time has passed for another collaboration with Rick. it would be something else to see such a thing. but the undeniable truth is so much time has passed. that a reunion would probably only amount to a hollow representation of the original Supertramp. and there comes a point where maybe it is better left as is. after all time go by by and things change. it's sort of same thing as why the classic rock genre is no more. but the music is still there for us to listen to. it's a shame but that's the way of it and something we have to accept.
Absolutely right
I'll add to that. Dougie Thompson's baselines were journey's in and of themselves. I could listen to a whole album (and I listened to these albums a lot) and just follow the melodic line or the groove all the way through they were so interesting. They would never repeat themseves, and they would push all the songs forward. It may well have been Hodgeson's arangements, I dont know. But it's been a long time. Maybe the chemistry isn't there anymore; maybe they don;t all 'have Roger's drive to do the types of of rehearsals it would take to put together a whole Supertramp show, because they were pretty epic and complex. Supertramp isn't exactly music you can just jam on in improvisation. You need a pretty tight band to do this kind of music.
Why didn't you list 'Ain't Nobody But Me' ? Probably Rick's most unique track, especially for a single.
Supertramp is not just one person. It was the blend of musicianship betweern Hodgson and Davis, but also the other 3 players, especially the fills from John Helliwell, which enriched a lot their sound. Few mainstream rock bands had a saxophonist, as a permanent player. Let’s not forget that Supertramp only started achieving commercial success after the other 3 members joined the band. So, it was not all a Hodgson and Davis thing.
In my opinion, Hodgson was a master at developing the structure or framework of new songs, like the sequence of chords, the orchestration and arrangements. And of course he had an unmatched high-pitched voice. However, even Hodgson songs have a lot of contributions from Davis, and vice-versa.
Would “School”, composed by Hodgson, be the same song without the harmonica solo by Davis in the beginning, and additionally the piano solo in the middle? Or without the sax and clarinet solo sections of Helliwell?
Hodgson’s songs’ skeleton was really good, but the virtuoso contributions of Rick Davis and Helliwell raised it to another level completely and provided the flesh. Hodgson was a great song developer, but he needed his mates to help with the tunes development in terms of technical musicianship’s complexity (piano and sax solos). Hodgson’s piano abilities were far from matching those of Davis’.
But this same reasoning also is valid for Davis. Let’s take the example of “Goodbye Stranger”, composed by Davis. Would it be the same song without the vocal interchange between him and Hodgson during the chorus? And without that crazy talented extended guitar solo at the end? Of course not. They complemented each other because no matter who composed the tune, he always let the other participate with instrumental relevant lines to the song. So, in the end, it sounded Supertramp.
They achieved greatness together, and they created magic when joining efforts. On their own, they are still good, but they lack that outstanding spark from the 70’s.
And even though Hodgson had most of the hits, it does not mean Rick’s songs were lower in quality. They were just less popular in terms of sales, but artistically speaking, they were equally great. Here’s a list of the most famous songs from each of them:
Roger Hodgson:
The Logical Song
Give a Little Bit
Dreamer
It’s Raining Again
Breakfast in America
Take the Long Way Home
Hide in Your Shell
And songs written by Rick Davies:
Bloody Well Right
Crime of the Century
Goodbye Stranger
Rudy
Asylum
Another Man’s Woman
Ain’t Nobody But Me
Downstream
From Now On
Gone Hollywood
Lover Boy
We can not really say one musician is better than the other. All those songs helped made their albums great, and, as Hodgson puts it, Supertramp wrote entire albums, because it “took listeners on a 40-minute journey”. That 40-minute journey would have not been completed without Rick’s tunes, and Hodgson for sure understands this.
Both were great, and that greatness grew exponentially when they collaborated. Wish they could have understood that, and would have stuck together. They already are an immortal band with just 14 years under their belt. But they could even had reached wider acclaim if they had not disbanded and kept putting out material for the past decades.
But, we still have the old albums to enjoy their greatness when there was no rivalries. So, let’s keep enjoying them! :-)
I totally agree with your point of view ... Nice to finally read a balanced comment from a real fan of Supertramp
That’s a very good and fair summary. Pretty much agree with all of that.
Fantastic comment , I thought the same by listening to the interview. And also not to forget the very nice bass-lines from Dougie Thompson , they are as well important for the typical Supertramp sound ...
Well said! ☺
You're so right
Goodbye Stranger is my favorite Supertramp song----thank you Rick Davies
So is it mine!
I have too many favorites.
Roger was the hero of my youth. I heard his words over an over again and listend to the music of Supertramp with these great arrangements.
Without discounting your contribution, Roger, I think you had a congenial mix of talent in your band. After you left, Supertramp lost it´s success. But you did also. Nowadays you play the old songs again and people love it. It didn´t work that well with only your voice and the piano. It was better to try to bring back the old sound.
There will be no reunion. It would have been a great opportunity, but it is lost. Probably because of completely banal egoistic reasons. As so often. However, my son hears Supertramp borrowing my car. It is timeless music.
Look at this video ( th-cam.com/video/pGviK7VB4jM/w-d-xo.html ), an interview with Rick Davies, an aged man, who's years after his carcinosis apparently in a bad constitution. Very sad. But you will never again call for - or dream of a reunion! "Some things never change" - truly, but this dream - unfortunately - should be buried quickly.
Fool's Overture is a masterpiece
Absolutely not fair to describe Roger as the only mastermind of Supertramp. 😢
Unfortunately Hodgson himself describes him as the mastermind. He started up with his paralysed attitudes after 1983 by ignoring the audience.
This designation would fit with Jeff lynne from ELO, but not with Roger Hodgson as the master mind of Supertramp. A lot good songs came from Rick Davies f.e. crime of the century, goodbye stranger, Rudy etc.
@@sagdieWahrheit Supertramp had a synergy that gave a group of young men a seeming wisdom beyond their years. Rick was eight years older than Roger. I just see this as a case of a rebellious young Roger feeling that he needed to leave older brother in order to grow up.
Anyone who isn't creating many versions of a song doesn't understand writing in general. Everything is trash which means one spends their time writing at the bottom of a garbage can.
Roger Born 1950
Rick 1944. 6 years. Close tho.
No! Roger and Rick were a team just like Lennon-McCartney and Mick and Keith. That’s why neither he or the band never recaptured the magic and success.
Supertramp's music is eternal to me as well as unique. Deep Thanks Supertramp for all the unforgettable music.
same eternal enough said.
I think Roger was a little disrespectful to Rick and dismissive of his contribution to Supertramp. Why are his songs "the real sound of Supertramp" but in his words "Rick has the name but it's not the real Supertramp" . The simple fact is that their contribution to the song catalogue was roughly 50/50 and as Rick sang all his own penned songs that means he was 50% of the sound. He also states his songs "have stood the test of time better than Rick's......well that's his opinion, it's certainly not mine. Added to that he infers Eye of the Storm was superior to Brother where your Bound...again not in my opinion
Yeah, he didn't really need to say those things. I like Roger, but he got that one wrong.
I personally still listen to 40 minutes of music, actually I have gone back to vinyl over any of the modern formats. There is something to be appreciated there.
I'm the same way maybe it's due to my age. coming from a time when the only formats where albums. unless a person wanted to listen to radio stations which I like many others did. but if I wanted to my favorite groups I would listen to the whole album. even if not all the songs were my favorites. it's also the same reason I don't like music services like Pandora. if I want to listen to a favorite group. I don't want to listen to a bunch of groups that are similar to them.
@@harryrenner4016 Same here, I listen to 40 minutes or so albums usually and it is no fun to download music to me.
I love Roger Hodgson obviously but I think he miss the point : it's not only about him but about the audience, we will love to see and to hear SUPERTRAMP again, I mean with both Roger & Rick ! and the others guys too !
ich hatte das Glück Supertramp so um 1980 rum in Friedrichshafen zu sehen ... bleibt bis heute zu den besten Konzerten die ich je sah !
I still listen to full albums, one in particular “Famous Last Words”!!! Love every Supertramp album and, sorry Roger” FLW is one of them!!!!
I was always a Hodgson fan, just a great musician and songwriter. Saw him a couple years back in Williamsport PA doing a solo gig along with his longtime touring musician and he was very good. After hearing this interview, which I’m shocked I missed as its now six years old, I couldn’t believe the man’s ego with some of the things he said. Seems very bitter about things in a sort of passive aggressive way. You’re supposed to mellow out as you get older and it seems like Roger carries some serious grudges with him towards Davies and Supertramp. When you think about it, you never heard Davies really say anything about the breakup, took the high road on it. I’d love to hear his side on things. I always heard the break up was caused by Davies’ wife being the manager on his insistence. Who knows? What a waste though, they were 10x more prolific when they were together and it’s a damn shame there weren’t more songs and albums done after 1983 by the same five guys that made it so great. They could come up with all the excuses they want, the bottom line is they should’ve put the damn egos aside and stayed together.
Technically, Rick Davies is the founder of the band, as Roger Hodgson auditioned from a music publication, melody maker. Basically, like many bands, whoever sang the song also wrote it. I think both Davies and Hodgson were very talented musicians and the success they enjoyed was a result of a collaborative effort, not just one person. Davies should be honoring the agreement they made upon Hodgson's departure. I saw Supertramp perform in 1997 and I didn't hear any songs Hodgson produced. This doesn't mean he isn't doing it, I just didn't hear it on that particular concert. I know fans have long awaited a reunion. Unfortunately, this will never happen. There are too many long standing issues of which the public doesn't know about. Still, Supertramp was a great band, who produced excellent music and made an impact on the music industry.
Supertramp is my favorite band. Cheers from Canada.
Canadians love Supertramp.
Germany love Supertramp too
Grandissimo Roger. I love Supertramp, I love you and Rick too. I hope to see you and Rick togheter again 🤗🤗Thank you for your great music
great interview, seen Roger in concert and it was one of THE BEST shows, and I have Been to 271 concerts, cheers!
Did he say he left Supertramp and gave Rick the name? Rick founded the band. And it's complete BS that Roger's songs "have stood the test of time" better than Rick's.
If I compare the "total" (words, music, interpretation), I would "save" Rick, not Roger!
@@steelyman08, God bless Rick!
Grateful to have been able to see Supertramp before Roger left. It was a remarkable evening of music and musicianship in 1983 that stays etched in my memory .
Fell in love with Supertramp 30 years ago, Fell in love with Roger Hodgson now. Roger you are one of a kind, Love you!
that was great,thanks 4 post,I love Supertramp and Rick and Roger and the band.
No, Roger. They are Supertramp songs and the band helped you create them as well ~ made them what we have all come to love. They are not your songs. They will always be Supertramp songs. You may well have written them alone in your bedroom at age 19, etc, but it was the work done on them by you and your band mates that counts. That band was called Supertramp. They made those songs (and many Rick Davies compositions as well) extremely well known and successful. Please do continue to play them alone without Supertramp & enjoy doing so. Supertramp fans also have the right to enjoy all of Supertramp's albums and songs (even if you wrote the lyrics & some of the music for many of them). "All my songs were put out as Supertramp but, actually, they're my songs." It's hard to believe that I actually just heard a grown, intelligent man make that ridiculous statement! Seriously?? Imagine Lennon or McCartney babbling such nonsense over their Beatles songs!!
Rick wrote some great songs and for me songs after the split like 'Better days' is still very Supertramp in essence and sound. John also contributed a lot to the Supertramp sound. I didn't like Roger's comments in suggesting Supertramp was some kind of backing band for his songs.
This man has a very Special voice......Fantastic.....................God blesse the creator of Wurlitzer piano----
Not forgetting the Fender Rhodes 😜👌🎼
Creo que está casi todo dicho no cuesta nada dejar el ego a un lado y cerrar el capitulo de supertramp con un ultimo gran concierto en directo con todos los antiguos componentes de Supertramp. Además seria una muestra de madurez espiritual, una lección de vida para los músicos del mundo y para todas las personas en general. El tren de la vida solo pasa una vez quizás ha llegado el momento de pensar que tanto RICK es parte de ROGER y Roger es parte de Rick solo con esa combinación nació el sonido de supertramp el talento musical de Rick basado en el blues y el talento musical de Roger basado en el folk fue la mezcla perfecta junto con sus letras y melodías espirituales no podían no ser maravillosos. DEBEIS DEJAR UN LEGADO COMO "SUPERTRAMP" ...Simplemente lloraría de alegría
Roger Hugdson, thank you for creating such a wonderful music. Your instrumental and vocal work are unique, profound and so relatable. These songs always bring warms memories of my youth and present too. 🙏🫶
I never got the real deal about endorsing silly comparisons. Rick and Roger are both just awesome - in theis particular and specific way. They were together the huge creative strenght that made Supertramp what they still are, almost 50 years later. I love them both: Roger's life questions, philosophy leaking from his songs, important matters of the world; Rick's passionate piano solos, love songs. It was a match! No need to create a whole discussion about who's better. They are both Supertramp, ans Supertramp is better than any discussion!
I think they were both much better together and just a normal day is a fantastic song because they sing together seperate parts it always moves me.
Yes, they were but every songwriting duo is plagued by one egomaniac twat and we know who that was in Supertramp Rodger.
Why can't you just be humble Roger? I mean... Rick was amazing... the whole band was incredible. You do yourself no favours by claiming the band's sound for yourself. Get over yourself already!
Right !
@@sagdieWahrheit Right, quite right, you're bloody well right! You know you've got a right to say.
Yes, Roger, you are a very, very lucky man. Not nearly as lucky, however, that you have existed in our lives.
God Bless You. I love you dearly and what you have brought to my life.
Amazing Artist ....
Gänsehaut, Goosebumps. My first Supertramp concert was the Famous Last Words tour - in Munich 1983. Epic! I was a young teen back then, I will never forget my very fast concert. I went to see Supertramp in 1985 with the "Brother Where you Bound" tour in Munich as well. I have to admit, I really liked that album. My next encounter was at the Beacon Theater in NYC in 2003 or so - Supertramp, with Mark Hard attempting to take on Roger's parts. Nice try. But "Sooner or Later" is pretty good.
Then I went to 2 Roger Hodgson Concerts in 2017 and 2018 believe. In Tarrytown, NY and some place in NJ - on my birthday. I was amazed to see that there teenagers singing along with the songs - just like me 40 years earlier. I haven’t managed seeing Rick perform since the epic Beacon theater performance, and I just missed his “Ricky and the Rockets” evening in the Hamptons last summer - which would have been an 1.5h drive from my house. I hope I will catch him next time. But seeing Roger on stage has more goosebump potential for me.
Roger has a mega amout of incredible songs. Rick Davies does too!
Sehr, sehr tolles Interview.
Dasa Interview war etwas gegenüber Roger Hodgson geschleimt. Seine erste Soloplatte war nicht das erwartete Supertramp Album. Und Roger Hodgson als Mastermind von Supertramp zu bezeichnen ist gegenüber Rick Davies und den anderen Bandmitgliedern unfair. Sicher hat Hodgson die meisten guten Songs geschreiben und er hat die markantere Stimme. Aber einige gute Lieder kamen von Rick Davies. Und erst die Synthese beider bewirkte den markanten Supertramp Sound. Und getrennt hatten beide keinen großen Erfolg mehr.
Great interview. And to think, "Crises, What Crises?" is Roger's favorite Supertramp album. Go figure.
Mine too. It really is the best one. Serious music from start to a wonderful finish.
"A Soapbox Opera" is an absolute gem! Watch him perform it on TH-cam with a symphony orchestra... simply stunning!!!
No, "Crisis? What Crisis?" is his favorite Supertramp album. Mine is "Even In The Quietest Moments."
Thank you for this interview. Roger is such an elegant man.
supertramp could sell out a stadium as a group....individually no way
Very nice interview.
for such a supposed humble guy, he sure has a giant ego. holding back the ego doesn't do away with the ego.
@derek morton And what does that make you?
Dirty Dan
I'm glad I'm not the only one who can see & hear that. It's almost embarrassing to hear him speak. If you look through some older interviews from the eighties after he left the band, it's all there as well. I think he must have been very hard to work with. A genius for certain, but the "spiritual" ones often enough wind up being the biggest ego-trippers.
I was surprised and shocked.
Every so often two very talented people meet and create something in which the whole is even greater than the sum of the two parts...Lennon and M'Cartney is the obvious example where each spurs the other to a higher level. This happened with Rick and Roger, their styles were completely different yet they complimented each other so beautifully. Neither has or ever will achieve the heights alone that they achieved together.
Love the orchestra you did in stutgart
Waters/Gilmour...Lennon /Mcartney...Davies/Hodgson. .Supertramp just might be the most under rated band of all time!!
hit's with Supertramp----many Roger's hits without Supertramp---none
In The ‘Eye of The Storm’ did pretty well. ‘Had a Dream’ made top ten in many countries. ‘In Jeopardy’ was number 2 in UK.
Very talented man.
3 years since this interview...when are we going to hear some new music??? Can RH not get a Record Deal...?
saw supertramp in 74 with only 300 others, in Breda, Holland...it was a Friday : )
So lucky!
He should check the ego and do one tour with Supertramp for the fans who bought him this freedom not to mention his big country home in California.
I agree. I love Supertramp but I think Roger is being a bit precious here. What do I know, but its a little "its all about me" going on here
He offered to in 2010 for a few shows but Rick turned him down. Also they would have to get Dougie back on bass.
Yes. Might it still not happen?
Sluff Adlin For me Dougie Thomson ist one of the most underrated Bass players ever.
Claus Appel I agree
A very nice and easy going guy!
They were better together, neither are as good apart.
I saw them many times in Toronto mostly within the first ten rows... Davies seemed very much like the leader of the band in each of those concerts. Hodgson provided the high pitched sining he was famous for, so the two of them together with the ban performed deep textures of rock, blues and pop. Hodgson was the pop... I think he gained a false sense of entitlement with the success and recognition, failing to capture the same level of success the day he left the band, you can sense an ownership of that same level of entitlement some 40 years later. Some people just grow beyond the need of being a part of a team, band, gaggle... whatever. As long as Roger is happy I’m cool with it... people evolve even after making bad decisions early in life. I’m just not convinced he’s ever going to be happy after seeing this interview.
I think of Roger as the Paul McCartney of Supertramp. With that being said, imagine that Paul decided to leave in 1969, and John, George and Ringo decided to replace him. Imagine trying to replace Paul McCartney, and still have this band called The Beatles. I think that Paul would say the same things that Roger did. They can't help the fact that they were instrumental to the success of their respective bands
Very well said, Pink Floyd is an example where they did go on without one of the writers, another Roger who was maybe the Lennon of Floyd, and the end result was lacking, not that the members are lacking as Hodgson tells us here, but that the magic, or more truthfully, the gift from God, is about the group of individuals, who, for some reason unknown to mankind, transcend time and space only if they are all present as one unit.
Probably I'm one of the few, who like more the spirit and the voice of Rick in Supertramp. And so it comes to pass, that "Brother where you bound" was the better album for me compared to "Eye in the storm". In these times ...
And I never understood, why Rick felt it was necessary to re-cast Roger's voice "at the same pitch".
Anyway: These two albums were the last I bought - and they'll be the last. Maybe I'm too romantic for this world ...
Maybe when you have all too much time on your hand, give "Along came mary" from RHs "Open the door" a chance and right when it gets a little too cheesy you should switch to "Tenth avenue breakdown" from RDs "Slowmotion".
Its just a shame that groups break up with great duo song writers, Roger Rick, Lennon McCartney. When they write together its magic, egos get in the way.
He visto en directo a Supertramp tres veces pero nunca con Roger Hodgson y no quisiera morirme sin verlos juntos de nuevo.
Este grupo junto con Pink Floyd son lo mejor que ha dado la música. Deberían ser inmortales.
In the eye of the storm gret album love it ROGER Hodgson lp
Thanks Roger, you are a blessed man.love you
Love this man and his music. Roger was a joy to meet in person and to talk to. I will always remember it, as it happened in Edmonton - during K-days. I enjoyed his antique (white with amazing designs) Grandma organ he brought over from England, to enjoy playing with among so many other awesome instruments he played, like the electric drums. Thank you Roger for touching my heart and soul. It is now 2018 June and this is the first time I am seeing these interviews and I love the awareness in self you are expressing - I'm going through this now myself. Its amazing, eh?
Crime of the Century blew me away from start to finish. Crisis? What Crisis was as good if not better, the albums that followed did not quite have the magic but the music was still a big influence for me. I could feel the magic was waning when Famous Last Words came out, but It's Raining Again was pure top drawer Supertramp, As was Rick's 'Bonny'. Still love the album, love the band that was, love Rick (he is from my home town) love Roger, all that has happened is just how it should be. Despite wanting a reunion I respect and accept the fact that it ain't gonna happen. I am grateful to have been alive throughout the Supertramp years. I can't tell you how glad I am that it happened.
"Crisis..." is just an "ok" album!
@@francescostrangis9703 well that indelibly stamps your opinion all over my breakfast in America, which I was enjoying. Even in the quietest moments I can see your overture was not foolish, my what a soap box opera this is turning out to be. The simple life is simply not enough, we have appearances we must keep up. Easy does it!
What position reaches "Crisis..." (according to you), among all Supertramp's albums (1970 - 1982)?
@@francescostrangis9703 Well I can't really tell you as it is impossible for me to choose a Supertramp album over another. They all have strengths and weaknesses, however if it helps you gauge how much I love Crisis? What Crisis? I can tell you that I am on my third vinyl copy having played the other two til I wore out the grooves.
That's great interview !!! I really like it !!! It was the first time i've heard somebody say something about the Supertramp reunion and now i know that this dream is not possible anymore...unfortunately.
There's only one way for me to listen to a 70/80s Supertramp Album! "From start to finish!!"
😁😁😁
supertramp even more than the beatles cannot be played seperately (with the lead singer apart) because the band is extremely skilled and fancy
Spirit has never left you Guys
I mean i love Roger Hodgson solo works as much as i love the works of his with Supertramp, but, let's consider he played bass guitar at debut album and second album, when he played bass at that time. He was just a great band member great composer, he was'nt arragont like that once that time. Then he discover his talent, his unique talent that doesnt match with Supertramp harmony, once he realised that, he want to leave, but he knew that only way of leaving was that being an essential part of Supertramp and being recognised by people, then he had a fanbase, and here u go u had the exit. Dont comeback Roger u're better where u're. Bless u.
And Roger it's not just ur songs. The band made a huge enstrumantal work on it. It's not just urs. And that's why u cant deal with Rick Davies, he's the genuis of music, not fancy songwriting, he doesnt like too much fancy lyrics. You're the one that popular songwritter, people love ur words much much more than Rick's , but the thing is music is just not about lyrics. Put that in ur head, i dont believe that u really mean it, u just stage ur act. AGAİN IT'S NOT JUST UR SONG, dont fool people, u can fool ur fans, but not me , i know better than anyone else, the soul of music of Supertramp, i know ur impact on it. No less No more. "It's not MAGİC, it's songwriting".
Listen Supertramp's Casual Conversation. It's just about the matter that i'm talking.
+Atilla Ayılgan he didn't say anything about it being about "Lyrics". Pumping more fuel into the fire about that S-Tramp lineup as compared to the post RH lineup doesn't matter any more. Fans want to see a reunion...but in a Business Sense...there is no logic to it from either side. Neither wants to put differences aside to give the FANS what they want...so we're left with the Albums from that time-frame...no big deal...put a set of Headphones on and enjoy the music they produced.
How you bore me, you go on and on, endlessly, no matter what I say your gonna bore me anyway, so much that I’ll talk in my sleep, then I’ll weep🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼
He fools people? What!?! Overthinking a bit much?
I've grown up with you Guys
A truly amazing band,just cant understand why they are they way they are but its what created the great music
Fantastic Roger!! Yes, the time goes on...
Roger sounds arrogant these days, but it's because he's in protection mode. He got pissed that Rick and Supertramp started performing his penned songs during their shows, when the band only performed Rick penned songs before. It was an unwritten rule after RH left the band that they would only do RD songs during live shows. It's unfortunate that RD started performing those songs and the decision to do so made Dougie Thompson leave the band. However, legally Davies has every right to perform all of Supertramps catalogue. I can't blame RD for wanting to include all of those all ST songs to get asses in the seats, but it is kind of not cool at the same time. This didn't give RH the right to be arrogant about his role in the band. He was one part of all that mad ST magical. He was not responsible for the magic. Supertramp and Hodgson have had flashes of the old magic since the breakup, but neither has reproduced it. They were better together, neither are as good apart.
+Paul Costello same tired observations as the Gilmour/Waters garbage that has been produced since the 80's. It doesn't matter who was arrogant...it only matters to what makes Business Sense currently to those involved. RD would never accept having RH back on the bankroll. That's a divorce settlement in reverse he would never allow to affect his Family for years to come...
+Anything4adollar Of course legally, it doesn't matter who is arrogant, but since there were comments made about this video as to his arrogance. I'm saying I understand how he would respond arrogantly to Supertramp performing songs that he had written. It doesn't matter legally and eventually I'm sure he will accept it, if he hasn't already. I think he's handled himself much more calmly than Roger Waters had in the past, but even Waters came to terms with Pink Floyd performing his songs. I'm not taking sides here. I like Supertramp now and I like Roger Hodgson. I can understand both sides. I think they are equally being silly though. They should just reunite. It's like a marriage, but it's not an actual marriage. They should get over it and tour and have fun together again. Just my opinion dude.
Paul Costello
excellent points, dude?!?
Yea, as Paul McCartney (as I'm sure others have as well) has said many times in the past...its an evil Business Industry. And at the end of the day, its all about Self Indulgent money grubbers who put their interests first. I have all of the RH included Tramp records to reminisce...so I'm happy
+Paul Costello
Maybe I'm missing something here, but to me RH doesn't come across as being arrogant simply by mentioning that he WAS in fact more than "just" another singer/songwriter guy in Supertramp.
That he must have played a leading role in arranging, producing and performing ST music is obvious if you compare RH's solo work to the band's output from the mid-80s onward. The man has every right to claim a little bit of credit for everything(!) he's contributed to the band's magic back in the day...
Hodgson has admitted that maybe he shouldn't have pursued a solo career...and it has taken him 30 years to recover from that choice. With Rick having Health Issues to deal with, ST is all but done.
Two days ago I was in London well unforgettable feelings that night. Thanks you Roger
I will listen to 4000 minutes of music if you write and sing it.
God blesse you Mr Roger---I Have a question to you.Is the Artist that creates the magic in the hads of people or is the people that impose a stlyle to the artist:::::::::
Darf ich auf einen kleinen Übersetzungsfehler hinweisen?Als Roger von dem Cover von Crime of the century spricht,sagt er nicht 'bus' sondern 'bars' (Gitter),und meint damit das Gitter auf dem Cover,welches von 2 Händen gehalten wird! ;-)
Ist mir auch aufgefallen, grüße aus Aschaffenburg
Just get these two dudes together one last time for the love of Gawd !!
Seriously. Can they just rise above the bs at this point? It would be so awesome.
@@jenl3162 They are their own human beings. It is their business what they do. We wouldn't like it if someone told us how to live our lives.
@Bob Davis…I’m not telling them what to do, but simply offering my opinion (which I know is forbidden these days). Relax.
@@jenl3162 I never want to forbid you or others their opinion. You gave yours and I gave mine. You wanted them to "rise above" their personal feelings, but I think they have a right to them. There is no need to condescend to an ardent feminist like me by telling me to relax. Yesterday I finally found, bought and played Supertramp's last album "Slow Motion." I quite liked it. Sure the thought occurred to me that Roger's voice would fit well with the other factors. But he is not a voice machine that exists just to suit fans. I feel I have no right to wish him to do something he doesn't wish to do. Have a nice day, sincerely, Jen.
Seperated from Supertramp to do something new but all he does is play Supertramp songs. There for they should have never seperated. But thats just my opinion as a fan. Its theyr life. For me, seperation killed everything for all of them. Together they were amazing. But at the End, thank you for all the great Songs.
Danke für das O-Ton-Interview! Keine Synchronstimmen drübergekleistert - wie wohltuend.
Ansonsten stelle ich es mir ziemlich anstrengend vor, als Künstler immerfort nur auf Supertramp reduziert zu werden. Roger Hodgson hat so unendlich viele (andere) Facetten - wie man im Englischen so schön sagt: he's an artist in his own right. Ich liebe seine Solo-Alben und seine neuen Songs, die es leider nur sporadisch im Konzert zu hören gibt.
So, und nun gönne ich mir den Luxus einer 52-minütigen Reise, mit Rogers Album "Open The Door" aus dem Jahre 2000... maybe that's totally old-school but on second thoughts: there's a huge vinyl revival going on right now - so maybe the desire for those well-arranged listening experiences/journeys that last an hour is more alive than ever. Long live Roger, Vinyl and the Musical Journey! :o)
Gön dir
What if Supertramp were inducted in to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, a reunion would be something special and that original five band members would play some of those classic songs!
I stll don't know why they haven't been included in the rock hall of fame yet.
Rock Hall of fame is of this world. Great music is of God. Greatness does not depend on any votes from mankind
Interesting how he says that he wrote his Supertramp songs by himself without, essentially, any input from the rest of the band, but yet he says there will be no Supertramp reunion until Rick and he "can come together." Come together how? You admit the rest of the band wasn't involved with you during the heyday of the band. Why do you need that now?
Great interview! After listening to Roger's words here I reassert in something i've said many times before, and it is that Supertramp needs Roger, but Roger doesn't need Supertramp at all. And I hope one day he find the time to release a new album with all those gems I'm sure he has. Last week I attend his two Spanish shows and I can't wait to see him again next month. His shows are so special, You never know what's going to happen, there's always a gap for a surprise.
+nuskysa Actually Supertramp doesnt need him to listen casual conversation song of supertramp then understand the real case. They were been great musicians as an old united Supertramp. But i think i love the Supertramp without Roger, much swingy much pure of blues.
+Atilla Ayılgan unfortunately, not too many agreed with you in the form of sales. Not my cup of tea, but, if you enjoyed that version of S-Tramp...that's all that matters
you're wrong, Roger needs Supertramp cause that's where he belongs and that's where the magic is...
You obviously never saw Supertramp before Roger left, Rogers show is good, Supertramp with Roger was pure magic. It is a fine line, but an extremely important line.
zpizaman that’s exactly what I said
Roger is arrogant. It has no style to put the contribution of the other Supertramps down. Where is the understatement? Rick wrote 65% of all Supertramp-songs - indeed not the Radio-hits. But not with ließ quality. RD wrote a lot of classics That became substitantial for Supertramp's unique sound like Crime Of The Century, Rudy, From Now On, Goodbye Stranger, Bloody Well Right, Cannonball, My Kind Of Lady and many more. And by the way: where is the honouring of the other brandmates who were essential for Supertramp? John Helliwells beautiful saxophon-Play, Bob Siebenbergs unique drum-groove and Dougie Thomson's bass? Sorry Mr. Hodgson - you alone were not Supertramp. Supertramp was a band and not a one-man-show.
I totally agree. I think Roger is being arrogant because of the way he left the band. Some of his songs were not well accepted by the band, which created a snowball of ego centrism between the members. Supertramp was an awesome BAND, and in almost all songs, there is indispensable participation of all members.
@Andy Larson that 65% of writing song credits probably includes those written Post-RH...
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/power-causes-brain-damage/528711/
Right !
SUPERTRAMP.❤ Y ROGER HODGSON.❤ MI CUARENTENA FUE LA MEJOR COMPANIA QUE TUBE. Y PODER CONOCER MAS DE USTEDES SON UNOS GENIOS.
2020 Siempre los mejores.
Roger's songs stand the test of time, one of my best memories of 1977 is seeing them at SPAC in Saratoga NY, BUT THERE WAS JUST SOMETHING ABOUT THE TWO GREAT KEYBOARDISTS SEEMINGLY RIFFING OFF ONE ANOTHER... EVEN IF HE DID WRITE IT ALL.
Sehr gute interview Frank...Super....
Aber Roger Hodgson als Mastermind von Supertramp zu bezeichnen ist gegenüber Rick Davies und den anderen Bandmitgliedern unfair. Sicher hat Hodgson die meisten guten Songs geschreiben und er hat die markantere Stimme. Aber einige gute Lieder kamen von Rick Davies. Und erst die Synthese beider bewirkte den markanten Supertramp Sound.
supertramp was Not one man,the beatles were not one man, pink floyd were not one man, queen were not one man...they were bands, think about it.......But in most bands there is maybe one vital member that makes a difference and if that one member leaves then the bands becomes different....ie....freddie died without him queen aint the same, when roger waters left floyd it took an album or two for gilmour to find his feet......hodgeson left supertramp rick davis carried on but it wasnt the same a sound was missing (rogers vocal ), can you imagine what the who would sound like without roger daltry..........rick and rogers vocal blend made supertramp one without the other is not supertramp.......
oh, i have seen them both and it pisses me off roger wont do any rick supertramp songs and when rick takes the band out the roger songs aint right
Un des plus grands auteurs compositeurs de tous les temps
Please, traduction en sous titre en Français, please
I agree Crisis is to me the best record.
I love Supertramp!
Please, of my three wishes for life, I just need to fulfill the dream of attending a Supertram concert; the other two I have already fulfilled. My first wish: to have the Berlin Wall demolished and my second wish: to attend the Olympic Games and I won an all-paid trip on a radio station to attend the Olympic Games.
Please do a tour that includes Mexico, please?
Blessings, Momy'z ツ
ROGER HODGSON 😎
Everyone would like to see you unite with supertramp!
As much as I love all the songs, My favourite song is Hide In Your Shell, 💖💖💖💖 by the way, I still buy hard copy music, because I love to read who was involved in the making 😁
Grandissimi Atisti. Ci mancano le loro canzoni.
I to he honest really lien Famous Last Words so, i’m not sure why roger doesn’t like it so much. It has some of rogers best songs, It’s Raining Again, Don’t Leave Me Now, Ces’t Le Bon, Know Who You Are etc
We love you Roger 🎶✌️❤️
Will they reunite? Answered at 11:57
The Difference Between Confidence And Arrogance,Its A Fine Line,Great Interview.Supertramp Was Of Its Time,No Need To Regroup....Not Many Bands As Successful As Them Avoid The Comeback,Supertramp Was As Big As Anyone In The 70s.......Dire Straits Never Got Back Together And I Hope Oasis Never Do Either,Can Always Play The Albums.
Roger Hodgson 😍😍😍
Hello, good night ❤
Se espera su reunión.... supertramp sería fantástico.....
Absolutely, Roger Hodgson was the driving, guiding creative force who shaped the band and their distinct sound - I feel it in my heart through and through when Roger performs his songs in concert. His songs came from a very personal place within himself, which clearly is why they timelessly reach out to so many around the world, every walk of life and several generations.. "Hide in Your Shell" profoundly speaks to me on many levels, also having been shy and introverted myself - the song became a shoulder to lean on, which truly comforted and assured me there was someone (and countless others) who shared the same deep feelings I was experiencing. It helped me to "get my heart back on the road" and in turn, help others.. "loving is the way to help me, help you".. ♩ ♪ ♫ ♥
What do you mean "the" driving guiding creative force? Rick was the founding member. I am glad "Hide In Your Shell" helped you; I've been shy much of my life, too.
merci roger
Roger Hodgson war vielleicht der wichtigste Mann bei Supertramp und hat die meisten Hits und eingängigsten Lieder bei Supertramp geschrieben. Ihn aber als Mastermind von Supertramp zu bezeichnen ist gegenüber Rick Davies und den anderen Mitgliedern unfair und unpassend. Von Rick Davies kamen auch etliche gute Songs ( z.B. Crime Of The Century, Goodbye Stranger, Rudy, From On Now, My Kind of Lady usw.) Und Supertramp hat gerade auch von den Gegensätzen zwischen Hodgson und Davies gelebt. Und die erste Soloplatte von Hodgson als das erwartete Supertramp Album zu bezeichnen ist auch falsch. Es war ein Roger Hodgson Album, ein gutes Album, aber nicht mehr Supertramp. Und danach hatten beide Seiten nicht mehr den Erfolg wie mit Supertramp.
Put your egos away !