SUPERTRAMP: The Story So Far
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- begins with a quite interesting and thorough band documentary, from sources as diverse as talk shows, formal interviews, and what seems to be casual band discussions. Then what follow is live footage. The shows themselves are quite good, with only minor sloppy playing, and decent sound quality (though drums are way too low in the mix!). The production is good, and the videos in the bonus features are alright as well. The Supertramp fans will be really eager to watch this, and hearing about a band's history is only interesting for huge fans of that band.
I absolutely love the duality of Roger and Rick. Their approach seems to be completely different and unique. Musically they add much to each others writing and performance. The last Germany performance is spectacular and beautifully crafted.
M-au rănit profund în viață multe lucruri,unele pe care nu le înțeleg nici acum,ba chiar refuz să le înțeleg, dar separarea lor a însemnat prea multă durere pentru mine,căci îi iubeam mai mult decât pe marii de la Pink,de la Dire,CCR și prea mulți alții,avertizând ce însemna ascensiunea celor de la AC/DC,Metalica,etc!
If I had a personal time machine, this is a band I'd love to travel back and see in concert. TH-cam is kinda my time machine. So many great, high-quality performances from legendary bands preserved for the ages. Thank you for posting this!
Rick & Roger get the plaudits, but John Helliwell was also a huge presence in the band. Not just a brilliant saxophonist but also a real character & entertainer.
Lights on and clearly someone home inside that guy
A great Prog-Pop band. Along with ELO, the two best of this sub-genre.
.....add APP, Ambrosia, 10cc, City Boy, Utopia, Klaatu, Styx & Pilot TO that mix.....
in deed!!!
@@ogam5 and Eloy!
The greatest band I ever witnessed live ...great sound...took you on journey and brought you back home. Truly one of the most magical groups ever.
that's the perfect description of the Supertramp show I witnessed at the Rochester War Memorial back in May '79
Yup, yer bloody well right!!
Me too ... in Switzerland early 80's at their very last show as a band.
Saw the twice. Once in a theater on the Crime of the Century tour and then in an arena for the Even in the Quietest Moments tour. Both were the best sounding shows I had ever seen live. Even though Breakfast in America became the most popular album, I didn’t like it as much as Crisis, Crime and Quietest Moments. I will never forget when they first played Fools Overture live. Great band. Nothing like this anymore. Glad I lived when I did. Thanks guys!
quite simply the greatest band of all time.
How can this only have 12,730 views? Thoroughly enjoyed it. Wonderful band.
thank you so much
While working at A&M Canada I was fortunate enough to meet Supertramp both with and without Roger who I also meet at a meet and greet as a solo artist.These guys are great people ,there band,manager and roadies.Great shows and great memories.
They were my first concert. Maybe 1975? Four of us young’uns, maybe 16 yrs old, we paid ten dollars cash to a doorman and got in. In retrospect the whole event was so overwhelming for my young mind I didnt appreciate the show quite as well as I wish.
Man I love this band, genius songwriters, back listening to them again..
I had the privilege of hanging backstage for 3 days in Toronto for the Breakfast In America Tour. I was mesmerized by this band back then,, and still there Music blows me away. What a great experience being in the same room with Roger Hodgson tuning his guitar and watching John Helliwell play chess with his brother. I'll never forget it! Thank you Supertramp. Absolutely amazing!
Thank you, guys, for your rich contributions to musical web of my life.
Crisis is my favourite Supertramp album.
hard to argue that one
13:58 .. In my mind, I was thinking about seeing this tour when I was a teenager - 17, I think... made the trip from Montreal to Toronto to see it w/ my cousin, who was a couple yrs older... we were so young, so stoned .. crowd was wild .. everyone looking at the GIANT screen as the hat started flowing down to earth and the stage lit up!.. and then, 14:22, the screen says 'TORONTO, 1983' .. THIS WAS THE SHOW!.. Wow :)
When? Supertramp to Hall Of Fame?
I still think that Famous Last Words, their final album with Roger, should have been a double-album set, the second following their 1980 live album, Paris.
These plans were shelved after Rick and Roger disagreed as to the direction of the album, and I think the fuel crisis also played a part in making FLW a single album, as A&M believed marketing two double albums in a row would be expensive; this is also when you consider that Paris was initially supposed to have been a triple album (3 record) set. Among the original plans for FLW included having Rick's "Brother Where You Bound" and "Ever Open Door," both of which eventually appeared on Supertramp's 1985 album Brother Where You Bound, as well as those songs Roger wrote that later graced his 1984 solo debut In the Eye of the Storm, including "Hooked On a Problem" and "Had a Dream (Sleeping with the Enemy)."
Definitely one of my inspirations as a song writer 🙂
Towards the end when Rick says, "I'm sure one day it will." One can almost feel the pathos and melancholy in Rick's visage, and in his wane smile.
I saw super tramp in the 1980s when they were touring for breakfast in america and they sounded fantastic. I wish I could see them again together and touring with michael hutches. I would go even in my wheelchair.
This band is one of the top bands ever
Absolute legends
totally
Io amo entrambe le voci, la loro personalità e il loro talento, la loro profonda diversità, penso sia stata la loro differenza a farli grandi, infatti appena nel '83 Roger andò via, per trovare successo da solista, purtroppo, lo dico con tanto rammarico, nessuno dei due ebbe più tale folgorante success! Quindi per voler essere due "Primedonne", li abbiamo "persi" entrambi. Ma li amerò per sempre😢.
So basically, this is a concert film of a couple of shows from the "Famous Last Words" tour with some of the band's background history attached. I mean, it's wonderful to see them perform live, but this isn't much of a documentary. It just skims over how the got together and what broke them up.
Thank you.. thank you.. for this! My youth😊
I think this band is very exciting & will go far!! LOL!!
lol, you think?
@@Totalclassicrock Just a bit of fun!! LOL!!
It's my pray God,forgive me for loving so much this band!
I don't know if anyone caught the ticket prices for the Crime of the Century concerts at 1 British Pound, but that stopped me in my tracks.
It’s truly a great loss for everyone when egos get involved
Some nice shiny vinyl editions are long overdue. If the tapes still exist.
that would get me very excited
I think the crime of the century is the fact that Supertramp has never been inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame
My favorite album is Crisis? What Crisis?
This story has more twists than Bob Marley’s Rastafarian hair.
Группа- Энштейн в музыке.
"We will split so we can make great music separately...." didn't accomplish 10% of what they did together.
Dougie, true Scot. Like me. I'm certain I'm the only one who understood what he said here!!!
"Crazy" to me was always about the social decay in society. And questioning whether it is crazy, or is it just your own perception. As the years have passed Its become more blatantly obvious it wasn't me.....
Lady ,you come by across the water
Gosto de todos os músicos sem distinção, porém Roger saiu, foi bom porque tive a oportunidade de ver a banda noutro estilo sem ele, confesso que gostei. É ver ele sozinho também.
So Babaji was inside all the time Guys
Awesome 😎 seen them live in 97 in Vancouver but Roger Hodgeson was no longer with the band.😢 I got back stage passes and got to perform magic for some of the band!! 🪄
Crime of the Century is right up there just behind Dark Side of the Moon. 👍🎸🎤
Behind????
They totally invented their own musical language. So incredibly unique.
For me, Crime of the Century is one of the most outstanding recordings of all time. There are many moments on this album that send shivers down my spine, an occurrence that I like to call an 'eargasm'. There are not many other bands that do that to me.
One of the best band ever
That's why I've said they had 2 masterpiece Albums: Crime& Breakfast
A Disgrace they're not in Hall of Fame!! And Helliwell just geniously feeds off Davies and Hodgson
"School" Most requested song on American Radio in 70's
Incredible quality
Bob Siebenberg is a hell of a drummer with such a classy touch. I´ve been a drummer for 30+ years and he is and he will always be one of my favourite drummers. I´ve learned a lot from him. Thanks Bob!
Right? Same here, man... The dude is pure perfection. What a touch... And those toms are enormous on top of it all. He's beyond Peart in his simplicity alone. Go on Bob!!!
I agree totally guys, the band was so great live on top of the great success in the studio. An enormous part of that, was Bob on drums and Dougie Thompson on bass. Live they were beyond even the Pink Floyd live because of these two rhythm powerhouses!!! The power chords were just so pure and powerful that I would give almost anything to see and hear that again.
Agreed. Very under-appreciated drummer but I've always loved his work
exactly maybe one of the best drummers ..so stylish..unique!! cheers
Yep, he is like Bev Bevan, a very musical drummer!
One of the best groups, ever.
no question about it
Without a shadow of doubt!!
Absolutly!
they were under rated
THE best ...!
It never fails. You get that much talent concentrated in such a tight space, it just implodes. Too bad really. This band could’ve made many more incredible albums together. But I’m glad we got what we did.
Amen
You said Amen to a pentagram, lol. @@terrystowers6085
Supertramp is the British Steely Dan. Their lyrics are quaint and cynical.
They both try to capture the late 19/early 20th century dull greyness
If Roger Hodgson and Rick Davies didn’t constantly treat each other like they didn’t exist, then I’m sure Supertramp could have lasted longer after Breakfast In America came out.
Even in the quietest moments...just as beautiful as the albumcover
100%
Taken near where it was recorded at Caribou Ranch, Nederland CO, 13 miles west of Boulder. The band's crew dragged the grand piano to the top of Lake Eldora Ski Mountain and covered it with snow. Iconic cover to an amazing album!
@@MrBillDeville When I saw them in San Diego Ca. they had all of their album cover items on stage. Just awesome.
A Major piece in the soundtrack of the lives of teens/twenties/thirties in the 70s and 80s....and I still enjoy it as much now in my 60s.....thanks for al the great music and memories!
The use of so many different chords to change the mood, dynamics and feel of their superbly crafted songs is really great with the harmony of their voices, the drums and amazing sax. They haven't received anywhere near the recognition they so richly deserve. Keeping together and being so professional for the sake of the quality of the songs is an achievement in itself. They must be put into the rock and roll hall of fame. So many other bands have entered that aren't a patch on Supertramp.
SO much talent and so many amazing songs. Breakfast in America is in my top 5 albums of all time. Just love it so. It's too bad this group couldn't have stayed together .......the combo of Davies/Hodgson was remarkable. Neither as good without the other.
It was exactly the difference in both composing styles that make all the albums so interesting, before they parted.
Totally agree, such interesting albums, full of great music. Unfortunately Roger didn't think so.
@@stevecoleman3308 Mr. Richards once said, by the meaning not by words: Friends, we are not best friends. But I can not ignore - when we work together, the results are so much better.
Agree, they were far superior together than apart. Same as Beatles.
Roger lived in this small norcal town for some years and what a pleasure to have him go into a pub and play a few songs, no one bothered him here--one time i bought a used blank cassette, and it was 90 minutes of him and his mates just playing, imagine how cool it was when i realized what i was listening to
I wish I was there.
One of the Best rock band in the history of music.
could not agree more
They are very talented!
Yes!!!
Fully agree. Songwriting is outstanding. Musically gifted. Great voice and lyrics. Often overlooked. They are underrated. A staple of the soundtrack of my life. I’m sure it was for millions of others, as they were a fixture on FM radio for 30 years. Music for road trips, mornings after an all nighter, a band to listen to with headphones, or to make love to.
When Rick and Roger parted ways, that was the end of the great Supertramp.
Still have all those albums...and memories.
they still did some solid stuff afterwards
Great video btw - The likes of 'The Logical Song' and 'Breakfast in America' were pure Roger, but then you would be treated to Rick's 'Bloody Well Right' and 'From Now On' etc - Supertramp, the Glory Years - Never to be repeated!
"Crime of the Century" truly one of the "Great Albums ever to be Recorded"!!!
Im a big fan but i dont think the rest of the band get the credit they deserve:-
Helliwell-genius
Thomson-genius
Siebenberg-genius
One of my ultimate favorite songs is Hide in your shell. It describes some people I knew and always played it for them. What a message that song has. Love it.
Hyde in your Shell,is the Best Song in the Music-History,absolutly the Number One!!!
I quickly grow tired of the “jam” thing. Coming up with ideas is necessary, sure, but I don’t necessarily want to hear the whole process. Improvised music is compelling at times, but I find intentional brilliance to be more impressive and interesting than witnessing someone stumble upon a brilliant idea that even they don’t understand and can’t reproduce.
If Rick and rodger could just put thier issues aside and reconcile they could reform the band. Everyone is still here and to be honest that would be a HUGE reunion tour and probably would sell out at every single stop they came to. I know if they hit Milwaukee wisconsin I don't care what my wife says I would be there to see it.
so sad that they couldn't get along
Roger wanted Rick to get rid of Dougie, John, and Bob. Rick stuck with them. So, it was never a matter of them not getting along.
You think 🤔 you might be able to borrow your balls out of your wives purse? 😂
@@georgeshaw8925 This comment is jazzy. Let me elaborate on it anyway. They say play in a band or play at a concert. In actuality, it is work that members get paid to do. It can be difficult to do that work. Employees won't always get along. There will sometimes be friction. At other times, Roger will start crying and run off high up top onto the mountains where he will pout a lot, start looking down on everyone, and write his own songs.
Yet, the whole idea is to take a boring orderly square and turn it into an interesting spontaneous circle. To do that requires friction, not getting along, lots of shouting, and throwing tantrums.
I love Supertramp. I have loved them since a friend introduced them to me when I was 14 in 1979. I've always been interested to find out much more about them, but it seems they are a band who had very normal individuals producing amazing music. There is no scandal, sex or drugs, just Rock and Roll. So therefore there is no "amazing" story to tell and nothing of real "interest", apart from 25 minutes of fairly normal interviews out of 80 minutes of footage in this "documentary", which is mostly made up of live shows. Don't get me wrong, I think that's great. Why does it always have to descend into drugs and debauchery? Why can't we just have five normal guys making amazing music? But it does seem to me that they are largely forgotten in the general music world, because sadly, in this world that we live in, you can't be quiet and brilliant... I hope they are happy and content with all of their achievements and their lives in general, because they deserve to be...
Absolutely killer in Bloody Well Right. Hodgson may be more known for the voice, the wurlitzer and the 12-string, but he is a very good electric guitarist...always such tasteful parts esp. on Davies' songs. They knew things were splitting up but love how on stage they are all in the zone as performers, clearly enjoying themselves. I've heard both Hodgson and Davies' say how touring was "easier" and the enjoyable part (interesting as its the opposite of many other bands). Course, who couldnt enjoy being in such a band of incredibly talented musicians, all 5.
How is it possible this band is not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame??
It doesn't really matter much, selection to the R&R HOF often has more to do with music industry politics than merit. I don't need an organization to validate whether a band is great or not.
I own all their albums but missed my last chance to see them live. I did get in the front row of one of Roger's concerts in St. Paul. How fun to sing along every word of every song!
bucket list band for sure
Saw Supertramp in Philly in ’83 at the Spectrum. One of my 10 best rock concerts , though we missed the first half hour or so. Band supposedly waited to take the stage to allow fans to arrive in ridiculously bad traffic. The Eagles had a preseason football game across the street the same night. Had to park near the I-95 on-ramp and walk to the arena. Great, unforgettable show!!!
Since when was he in my home city???
I had not heard of Supertramp; however, now that I've seen them, I greatly enjoy their passion for their music and and amazing talent. I'm definitely a fan! Anne
One of the very best jazz-rock groups who ever performed...Sad that they never played together after 1983
Paris is one of my favorite albums. A showcase of what a great band they were
I am extremely offended, being Canadian, because you guys are not mentioning how huge I mean, huge - capital letters - Supertramp was, especially in Montreal. Quebec, Canada was, is, and always will be, a huge staple of the best music we’ve ever experienced…
Here's my opinion, this is the most intelligent band of all time , all of them has a special creativity, the construction of every song are so intelligent they know the exact moment to do the guitar solo, the piano solo , saxophone , the drums , the bass , the 2 voices , GOD!!!
I don't disagree
It’s called arrangements. 😎
You right ❤
Along with Pink Floyd and The Beatles...
💯💯💯💯💯
As a Supertramp fan for over 40 years I have to say……it’s time lads. Time to get back together again. Life’s to short messing about.
Fabulous ! for me this band is in the top ten of the 20th century.
Saw them at the Summit in Houston, circa May 1979. Best concert ever for me, personally. Immaculate performances from each album up through Breakfast in America. What a show!
Великая, недооцененная группа!!!!! Каждый из альбомов -шедевр.
I saw them in their last world tour in 1983 in Edmonton Canada. Great stuff !
I was only 13 when Crime of the Century found me in 1977 & soon bought the two following albums which I played to death in spite of most kids my age being into punk or disco . It was a very exiting day when I first heard Breakfast & loved it to bits but for some reason I’ve never been inspired by the Paris album or one single live bit of footage ! I’m forever greatful though for the impact the lyrics had upon my take on the ‘ grown up world ‘ as a nipper . ( Supertramp & Zappas’ first two albums which I’d gained at the same time as Crime ) 😃❤️👍
I know I'm in the minority but I've always preferred Richard's darker songs to Roger's lighter songs. Love the contrast though. Great band.
Me too. Altough Roger wrote several great songs but I do not like the most of big hits of the band and a little bit "stupid " pop songs as Crazy.
Rick is underrated and Roger's did everything in order to sell himself as a only 1 reason of Supertramp's' success. Unfortunatelly he could manipulate his fanbase( sect) with it.
Rick Davies was Beethoven for me , while Roger is Mozart, but
I always prefered Beethoven.
I don't need to choose. I like both
@@josemiguelcarrizo7373yes
, it is good attitude.
But pls explain to Roger and his fanbase.
They are responsible (yes , Roger has a big responsibility in it ) for the situation that this band has most splitted fanbase in the rock history.
@@aubindemontfalcon5967 Obscure ?! Is there any objective measurement which are the best songs exactly ? Of course Roger was a "hitmaker " but I have to say his best songs were never ranked on the charts . And just for your info the first and last US " hits " belonged to Rick ( Bloody well right and My kind of lady , or Cannonball after Roger"s departure ) .Cannonball was a big hit per example , it was no9 in US dance charts . Rick also wrote additional amazing songs as Rudy, Crime of the century, From now on , Downstream , Another man's women , etc. They aren"t " obscure " songs. Both songwriters were genius.
Part of the same minority.
But yeah, both are great.
The thing that amazes me , is that Crime of the Century's sonic quality and production is so much better than Breakfast in America! And all their albums I would say.
You're right it does sound better than Breakfast in America ... and Breakfast in America sounds phenomenal !!
I think in America, Breakfast was the best sounding. Are you overseas? Over here it was on A&M records, which was a standard pressing affair until Breakfast came out and the vinyl formulations were altered. Nearly all big label LP's, no matter who, were largely handled by CBS pressing plants. Aside from RCA, which had their own... But there were contenders all of a sudden. An audiophile release of Breakfast was available, then the others released by MFSL, BREAKFAST was released by their own label not MFSL. Also, at the time I would listen to albums I liked using phase cancelation, sometimes called "stereo difference" to dissect the production. BREAKFAST, was well produced regarding that, as everything was meticulously placed in the stereo sound stage with a light halo of ambient reverb, and no phasing errors. Those really stuck out as distortion in recordings that had that problem. Or ones that had off center mono sources. Taken apart like that, Breakfast held up well and sounded just like a live performance. The ones before had a less live sound and as Soundstage goes, certainly not bad, but like seeking a 3-d picture made up of several 2-d flat images. The images themselves would have depth and texture, where in the older productions, they were well-rendered 2-d images, or for the sake of this, individual mono recordings, assembled into the Soundstage. Every sound on Breakfast seemed to eminate from a stereo source, as in live.
13:07 Mark...I remember this so clearly, first concert I ever went to in 1983 at the Summit in Houston. I will always remember this opening for their concert. I LOVED it!
I was there too in Houston! Also my first concert! Unforgettable!
Rick wrote his best songs on Crime of the Century... Asylum, Rudy and Crime of the Century is probably the best songs in the Supertramp Catalouge!
Crime of the Century was a collaboration between the both.
Supertramp excelente BANDA, especial a mi lado en mis mejores y dificiles momentos, su música me ayudó como terapia.
Gracias Gracias Gracias 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋
"Brother Where You Bound?" is such a great album, and its production is top notch. Still, without Roger, the band is just not quite the same.
I met my wife of 43 years listening to Crime of the century and Supertramp has been a huge contributor to the soundtrack of my life They played in Kelowna in 2011 and was freaked out they used the star screen with the crime of century album cover jail bars as the did in Toronto in 1983 ❤
باسلام همیشه از گروهایی خوشم می امد که روزی از انها غافل نمیشم
It's probably I wasn't listening to them when they first came out because I might not have listened to anything else. lol. I started listening March 6, this year and guess what? I'm still listening. lol.
me too
If everyone was listening there would be more than two of us commenting. 😆
Three of us now !
Seeing PARIS and what they did there, I am actually really PISSED that they couldn't get over their issues and continue. I'd like to think it was their duty to the world :D sad, really, still like brother where you bound, still still - what could have been, THANKS anyway!
The sax playing on logical song really stood out and was very complex and brilliantly played and his professional way of playing through a slight blunder was so well done that he just carried on as if nothing happened. The saxes together really makes Supertramp stand out and be different, original and brilliant but the pressure to do follow ups to crime of the century and breakfast in america must be hard to cope with but to play such a brilliant show so well really takes some doing and they really are a great supergroup and i really enjoyed listening now on my 63rd birthday as this brings back happy memories in the late 1970s entertaining 2 sweet swiss au pair girls in Wimbledon😂❤
SUPERTRAMP un bon groupe Rock Britannique j adore fait beau soleils chez moi dans le Vieux Québec prêt de mes endroi comme non seulement mon travail j'aime l'hôtel Dieu Québec Vieux port Menaster Augustine être dans ll Est au soleil ❤❤❤❤❤😂😂ça me rend heureux merci Seigneur Jésus Chris Amen protège se SUPERTRAMP sont chaleureux 😊
Many thanks,i love so much Supertramp
*But I don't understand the title of the video... This is NOT a "documentary" on the story of Supertramp "so far" per se, this is a concert video for God sakes !*
I associate supertramp with rodgers singing and songwriting. Without him the magic piece of the puzzle was gone forever.
What I noticed was that Supertramp always used the same Musical instruments, now very dated looking in some cases, but obviously built to last.
In my opinion, I think Supertramp had four great albums which are: Crime of the Century, Breakfast in America, Even in the Quietest Moments, and Crisis, What Crisis, in that order. They were easy to listen to all the way through...
This is the best documentary ever. 20 minutes in it turns into a best of live show. Brrrrrrrrrriliant!!!
Then they sent me away to
Teach me how to be sensible, logical. Genius.
Roger was the heartbeat of the band, when he left Supertramp died. Don't believe me, go watch some of his performances after he left. Close your eyes and your back in the old days!
Give me Rick Davies. Bloody well right.
So eine Musik gibt es heute einfach nicht mehr... das war richtige Musik und die wird man in hundert Jahren noch hören und begeistert sein... und nicht diesen Schrott von heute.
Early Supertramp is some overlooked great stuff. They were a bit like the Band or early Steely Dan
Dan are marvellous as well
Uma das melhores bandas de todos os tempos!!!!!!
its insane how much they just skim over the debut album and famous last words as two of the greatest records ever made
Yeah. I really like that first album.