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Balancing Electrolytes and Supporting Migraines - Salt on a Low-Carb, Keto, Carnivore Diet - Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- In this episode, Dr. Angela Stanton and I discuss:
1. Dr. Angela Stanton Introduction
2. The difference between headaches and migraines
3. Carbs, slat, migraines
4. Recommended amounts of salt
5. Hypertension and salt
6. The role of salt in migraines
7. Salt in a carnivore diet
8. Balancing electrolytes
9. Taking medicine for migraines
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LEARN MORE ABOUT DR. ANGELA STANTON:
Twitter: @MigraineBook
webpage: www.stantonmigraineprotocol.com
Facebook main group: / migrainesufferers
Facebook keto group (smaller but requires status of no meds):
/ ketogenicdietformigraines
My personal Facebook wall: / angelaastantonphd
My book: "Fighting The Migraine Epidemic: Complete Guide: How to Treat & Prevent Migraines Without Medicines" www.amazon.com... (this is the e-book link but paperback is available everywhere, including libraries)
The potassium supplementation article: www.hormonesma...
Some articles on salt that weren't brought up but they fit the discussion:
1) "Low Salt Diet Increases Insulin Resistance in Healthy Subjects" Metabolism. 2011 July ; 60(7): 965-968. doi:10.1016/j.metabol.2010.09.005 it's a free article here: www.ncbi.nlm.n...
2) The Lancet paper (unfortunately not free access) on the ideal sodium levels "Associations of urinary sodium excretion with cardiovascular events in individuals with and without hypertension: a pooled analysis of data from four studies" The Lancet Volume 388, Issue 10043, 30 July-5 August 2016, Pages 465-475 found: www.thelancet....
Himalayan salt: "What salt Are You Eating?" cluelessdoctor...
The genetics of migraine at www.genecards....
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**DISCLAIMER: I am only here to provide support as a nutritional therapy practitioner and I am not providing medical advice. If you think you have low iodine issues and plan to start a new supplement protocol, I always recommend working with a team of holistic practitioners, including your PCP and a certified nutritional therapy practitioner. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.
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Blows my mind our government promotes low salt and low fat diets.
You have no idea how timely this is and it was the first podcast on my TH-cam feed. I dealt with this all day yesterday with my older sister and she is notorious for not balancing her electrolytes. I already texted it to her and told her we are listening to it together. Judy is the greatest. Wonderful info. So grateful!
Migraine sufferer for more than 40 years here. On Stanton protocol since April 2020 and can wholeheartedly confirm that it works! I would advertise it at every corner if I could! It’s a combination of a great nutrition plan and proper hydration with electrolytes balancing that improve not only migraines, of which you experience fewer and fewer, but overall health. Grateful I found Dr. Stanton and her protocol! ❤️
Thanks Lana!
What is it ? She rambles and does not get to the point .
I have not seen an RCT of her hypothesis carried out of good design and controls which prove her hypothesis.
I have suffered from monthly migraines since I was 21 so I assumed they were hormonal. I learned more in the last 54 minutes watching this video than I have from doctors in the last 35 years. I also take sumatriptan for them and I’m hopeful that increasing my salt will decrease my need for a Rx. Thank you for sharing this information!
Thanks Judy for the interview! I had a super great time chatting with you!
Diagnosed with occular migraines. Starts with electric eel like thing in my vision. Within 30 mins can turn into black central vision and only peripheral vision. Severe confusion but no pain.
@@NutritionwithJudy Thank you for making this information available Judy. God bless you
My aura/prodrome phase is like that also.
@@houndsontherun Are you still getting auras?
GREAT interview!! I learned so much! Myself and several of my family members are sufferers of migraines. I can’t wait to share this video with them. Thank you!
Excellent information! Keep educating people Judy and continue having smart people on your channel because you are making a difference.
Dr. James DiNicolantonio has written a great book on salt - too many think they get too much when they get too little.
Thank you for sharing Judy
THANK YOU, Judy! I really appreciate the clarification between a headache and a migraine because there are even doctors who use the two interchangeably like they mean the same thing. As if. I am really looking forward to the second part of this interview!
Fantastic interview
Great chat thanks Ladies😁Himalayan salt spikes my already high blood pressure, so I don’t consume enough salt in my diet
You have the most amazing and fascinating speakers! Thank you for all that you do!😊
I’m a migraineur. This was great.
Absolutely awesome episode and blog post! We need salt!! ❤️❤️❤️
Salt....but not electrolyte products right?
I was following Dr Stanton's salt & water protocol this summer. My scalp wasn't itchy anymore. I got out of the habit in the Fall and my scalp has been itchy. I thought my itchy scalp and thinning hair was due to installing a water softener using sodium chloride (dry salt like specs on my scalp) so we've recently started using potassium chloride in the softener.
@@nutsforthebeach Salt is essential and if you eat the right balance--which we measure in the protocol--then you are safe.
@@AngelaAStantonPhD I started your protocol again this morning....drinking approx 6 oz of water every hour and taking 1/8 teaspoon of Redmond's real salt every other hour.
@@nutsforthebeach my protocol is 8 oz water at the time and not every hour at all. The frequency is dependent on your weight. Have you calculated?
This was great, thank you!
This is excellent info, I shared it with many of my clients. Thank you both!
Thank you Kat!
Im so happy to have found this! I have been looking into this protocol on Facebook but i have such a hard time reading all the notes, where to start, etc
Rachel, in the group there are "Units", which is a FB feature where we grouped things together. So Unit 1 is where you need to start and continue through the units one by one. It is organized by importance. So, the question of where to start is answered by Unit 1 in the Comprehensive Guide. It details step by step what you need to start with and how. :)
@@AngelaAStantonPhD thank you! I will look for it
This is so gooooood, Judy!
It is not simply genetic! Almost nothing is. Mine started at age 35 when my (gut) health was breaking down.
Johanna it is genetic. It can start at any age. Genetic differences "switch on" at whatever age they wish. The time the switch happens is controlled by epigenetics. No one is born with migraines, but those who are born with a migraine brain will, in time, end up with migraines, provided the genes are switched on. In some this is at age 1 or 2, in others it is at age 50. It can be at any age.
@@AngelaAStantonPhD ok thank you. That was actually what I was trying to say, but not precisely enough; it is some form of interaction. Do we have any idea what "switches the genes on"?
@@johannakunze3300 the turning of the migraine genes in your 30s has something to do with how the brain develops. It develops in stages and not at once. The speed of the stages is individual. Our brain never stops developing (well… it does in dementia) as new connections are always formed. Every new memory you form is a new connection. So we add a lot of new connections each day and we also trim away (called synaptic pruning) old ones. New connections may activate a predisposition-as in migraine brain.
I had my migraine genes turn on in my late 20s--after the birth of my two sons. Before that I had some cyclical vomiting syndrome, anxiety, and a host of other issues that I didn't associate with migraine at that time--heck I didn't even know what a migraine was at that time. It seems that the hypersensory neuron connections got enhanced with the completion of my two pregnancies. That was the stage of my brain development is creating more connections
Generally speaking, we have lots of epigenetic factors in our lives and nutrients and culture are two important ones. To give you an example of migraine-brain that hasn't switched on: think of living in a tribe. There are still tribes living today that eat only meat, milk, and blood (blood has lots of salt). Look for the films I referred to in the video, which is on Amazon Prime and the series is called Tribes. It is about 4 tribes. You will see how they live.
So if we have a migraine brain but we never ever eat/drink such that its difference causes a problem, we won’t know we are migraineurs. For example, the people who have mastered the protocol, they are now migraine free. As long as they don't eat offending carbs (or some who don't eat carbs at all) and take in plenty of salt and water, they never ever have a migraine so they will not know they have a migraine brain. So the "new" epigenetic factor these migraineurs placed on their nutrition turned the switch off and made the migraine-brain irrelevant. Many, for example, tell me that they ended up with a migraine because they forgot that they are migraineurs after years of no migraine by following the protocol. And then they trailed off the protocol and bang… migraine.
So we can turn on or off our own "switch" depending on what we eat.
not genetic, it is just what we get in food how much toxins and stress, gut bacteria ....family if we are in nice relationships, NO GENETICS crap i can't stand that non sense!!!
How does migrain brain connect to hormones? Been thinking I am estrogen dominant or going through perimenopause can’t figure it out! @Angela A Stanton PhD
Mine hurt in my neck, a few days before I feel dizzy and tired, sometimes nausea, sometimes disoriented, once the pain comes I cannot hold a conversation, my eyes will hurt, my tinnitus gets louder. I used to use iodized salt to remedy, but on carnivore it’s not recommended. I still use benedryl and aleve and sleep. I’m not really sure this is migraine, however it does last longer than 24hrs.
Why would iodized salt be not recommended on carnivore? It is absolutely recommended.
Dr. Stanton’s audio is not clear. I’m trying to understand her, but it’s really difficult. I’ll have to read her book.
There is a CC setting on TH-cam that you can turn on and it will let you read what I am saying. We welcome you to our Facebook group. It is called "Migraine Sufferers"
I was having a foot cramp, took a bit of salt in my palm. Foot cramp went away...
So I am low carb because carbs give me pvcs. I only get migraines hormonally once per month, the same time every month like clockwork between days 17-23 every month and last three days I am sensitive to smell in general and sounds. How does this apply to hormonal headaches? Mine are either ovulation or luteal phase headaches.
Mallie if you are sensitive to smells, this sounds like migraine. Monthly hormonal migraine is a real thing. Join my Facebook migraine group: MigraineSufferers
AUDIO was real bad, making it unlistenable for me.
It sounds like most of Angela's hypotheses are predicated on the idea that migraneurs and people with more brain activity use more sodium than other people, and that use leads to elimination from the body, but is there actually good evidence for that? If that conclusion is primarily based on the amount of sodium in the urine of migraneurs, it could be that these individuals either use sodium inefficiently for some reason, and therefore waste some of it, or their ability to recover sodium before it is eliminated is somehow hindered.
Given how precious sodium is to the body and its relative scarcity in the ancestral landscape, we should (and do) have ways of recovering it without it being eliminated all the time. This is another case where the few people successfully eating salt-free carnivore diets offer sufficient proof that you don't need additional salt when your body is balanced properly. The carnivores that bloat up when adding salt have probably improved the efficiency of sodium management to the point where additional salt is a drag on the system...taste should serve as a good guide for these people, and it sounds like a lot of them object to the taste of added salt.
There are several studies examining the frequency and size of the voltage generate by the brain comparing migraineurs and others and migraineurs have more electrical activity and also different magnitude. In addition, there are studies showing anatomical differences; migraineurs have more neuronal connections among sensory neurons, so there is more "chatter" between these neurons, using more sodium. Also, the study that refers to migraineurs excreting more sodium: everyone ate the same food. The carnivores that bloat up when they add salt do so because they are restricting how much water they drink.
For migraineurs taste is not a good measure. I hate the taste of salt so I prefer to not salt my food or water. I take salt in capsules so I need not taste the salt. It works perfectly. And there are studies showing that migraineurs are salt-wasters. In sum, I hope I answered all your questions.
I am finding that electrolytes are so important. I am pre-diabetic so I eat low amts of fruits and started getting cramps in my calves. I now put No-Salt (potassium chloride) in my water, no cramping now.
Marlene, No-salt is half potassium and we discuss (see part 2) that potassium supplementation is dangerous. You may want to consider switching to full salt instead of No-Salt or Low-Salt.
@@AngelaAStantonPhD I did my research and No-Salt is working for me now.
So we are talking getting a hair analysis here and looking at the sodium in relation to the sodium potassium pumps and the voltage gated channels?
My migraines are on top of my head and usually last 2 days
What other symptoms do you have? What are your prodromes?
I use Cronometer. On carnivore it shows that I'm always low on K2. How can I bring that up?
Mika the food may not show that you ate K2--that's USDA for ya.. but rest assured that meat products are full of K2. So if you eat a lot of meat, you are getting enough K2. You can also supplement it but it's really unnecessary.
I have a tyramine enzyme deficiency. II take salt daily so doesn't help me.
How do we get enough potassium?
Can mineral water help with salt/electrolytes imbalances like Perrier or Pellegrino? Is dry mouth a sign of an imbalance?
Natalie I would recommend taking salt with your water. That is really the only electrolyte mineral you need with your water.
@@AngelaAStantonPhD I'm Carnivore. I was following your salt and water protocol all summer and then fell out of the habit in the fall. I also stopped as I was concerned with my potassium levels with taking in extra salt.
@@nutsforthebeach Your potassium levels ae of no concern if you follow my protocol, because we measure potassium to sodium ratio in the food. Right? And fresh meat and fish--particularly salmon--are very high in potassium. In my protocol we always eat exactly as much salt as we need.
@@AngelaAStantonPhD is there still potassium in cooked meat? I know meat broth n bone broth are high potassium which makes me wonder if the potassium gets cooked out of the meat.
@@k41418 yes there is. In broth we cook the bones and meat in water, and water will remove some sodium and some potassium from the meat. But if you cook the meat without water--or if in water but you eat the broth/sauce created, you are eating all the potassium that is/was in the meat. You can find the potassium amount in meat cuts--often as cooked meat--in the USDA's nutritional tables.
😊 About how many teaspoons per day is recommended for the average healthy person?
She Said 4500-6000 mg of salt i think 😬 thats about 2 teaspoons.
@@oliviahakanssonii I said it is weight dependent. The ideal by the study said was between 4500-6500 mg sodium (not salt but sodium) for healthy people. But migraineurs need more.
Stolive Thank you!
I have suffered with migraines for years. They’re getting better on carnivore diet, but I still get at least one per month with aura. Trying a different magnesium supplement this month, hoping it helps more.
I have noticed that my night vision is better than my husbands. He comes in the house and turns on all the lights, when he goes back outside I turn them all off. I prefer a darker room 😳
Just want to double check, she said 55% of body weight for the water ratio? Is that the same as the equation (body weight lbs) /2 = how many OZ you should be drinking? So, this adds ⅛ tsp of salt to each cup of water or each 8 oz glass? Ex: 165 lbs/2= 82.5 oz or 10.3 cups (8 oz) glasses of water 10 x ⅛ = 1.25 tsp salt overall? And salt and potassium intake must be balanced...
Tina it is different. Join us in the FB group and we can help you figure it out.:)
Try blue light blocking glasses as well
@@bowtiedreynard9167 they are great for symptoms, but if migraine is preventable--which it is--then there is no need for symptom prevention or treatment.
Can a migraine be continuous?
Sodium and potassium 1:1??
In the food: yes. With water only salt.
How much salt do you need?
Join my migraine group on Facebook under "Migraine Sufferers" and we will guide you and help you evaluate how much salt you will need based on how much water you need.
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Lancet is a vegan propaganda machine so I'm not why she appealed to them. They have "planetary nutrtion guidelines" which recommends no more then 4 ounces of red meat a week
I didn't "appeal" to the journal Lorne. I merely referred to an article that was independent of nutrition. I also have a publication in the Lancet and I am really not a supporter of plant-based diet! One does not judge all articles in an academic journal based on their publishing history on red meat... The history is pretty much based on what is submitted for publish and not what the journal wants to publish.
So how do you get enough potassium on carnivore?
Mika, if you eat beef that you cook from fresh, and eat salmon that you cook from fresh or frozen (meaning not smoked or processed), you are eating very potassium-rich.
@@AngelaAStantonPhD I just finish reading your book this week. I suffer with migraines and headaches and don't seem to do well on carbs. I'm also on the carnivore diet. Are lamb chops and dark meat chicken and pork belly just as high in potassium as beef or salmon?
@@jenna4029 each has a different potassium profile. Salmon (wild caught Pacific) is the highest. If you get farmed, it has less potassium. Of the meat beef and lamb are similar--beef slightly higher. Chicken drumsticks is what I checked and it is significantly lower than beef or lamb--like only half as much, and pork belly is very low, but pork chops are similar to lamb, so a bit less than beef. That's likely because pork belly is a lot of fat and there is no potassium in fat. You can, by the way, google any meat for potassium... just type into google "potassium in 100 gr ribeye" or whatever you are looking for. Be sure to compare the same weight, I choose 100 gr for all comparisons because it helps me visualize it. 100 gr is 3.5 oz.
I also recommend that you add a lot of salt to your water--as a daily routine. Join my migraine group under "Migraine Sufferers" on Facebook and we can help you there.
The problem with this doctor is that she does not get to the point ! Twenty minutes in I get the background . Please get to the working hypothesis.
1. What is your actionable hypothesis?
2.How can I test whether your hypothesis works for me?
3. What are the specifics to carry it out?
Dr. Cho. If its not too much trouble, could you run your guests vocal through a volume leveler. Shes very informative. She disappears in hwr more intricate phrases and then pegs the simple words. Hard to hear but I listen to the pow and she pierces my brain with a simple word. Kind of painful to listen to.
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is this lady schizophrenic? seeing auras....i have had time follow her self- talking....