It doesn’t make sense to talk about government propaganda when you work for the government and still support its evil ways man this guy is lost . Of course some Olof this is true but man he’s just adding more confusion
Most people still think that their own side is not manipulating anyone. The dark reality is every side in every conflict is lying. Always. Ukraine, Gaza, everywhere. Think about it: they're killing people by the thousands, what's a lie for them??
They don’t hate us because we are free dummy. They hate us because our lifestyle doesn’t go with their Islamic lifestyle and they look at us as sinful people that deserve death.
@@rylanrobinson8487 I'm not a bot and I 100% agree with OP even if they are a bot. People like you are no better than CNN. Someone can explain for an hour the nuances of an issue and your response would be to take a 3 second clip of the person and use that out of context to tell people why they really just hate freedom. GTFO dude.
The fact that he said millions of Palestinians are “allowing “ Hamas to govern them. 😐 Like maybe someone should explain to him what’s been happening there for the past 15-20 years.
@@nicknick3929 How? by giving them free water and electricity? allowing money and aid to be enter into Gaza. to then be taken by Hamas to buy more weapons instead of improving the lives of the people they are suppose to govern? please educate yourself before you say shit.
@@Dor_Z So say for example I show up on your door on some random day and tell you this is my home and all the resources in it are mine then I do you a favour to let you live in the basement and do you other favours such as giving you meals 3 times a day. I also frequently invade your privacy by coming to the basement with weapons and bully you and don’t let you do your religious rituals. How does that sound? U down with that? Mr. “Very educated, who doesn’t talk shit” man.
@@fazyl3416 Again you are talking out of your ass, the only people Israel goes into their homes are people who smuggle weapons and terrorist members. other than that they do nothing. on top of that Israel has no control or say in whats going on in Gaza or the west bank. NONE. they have their own governing bodies that instead of taking care of them they use the money they get for terror. Edit: and yes GO EDUCATE YOURSELF Jesus..
I felt the same way when I've seen him sit back and let pro-palestinians speak easily refutable points like "Israel just decided to take 80% of British palestine" this forgetting that in 46 Jordan took 78% of Palestine. 900k Jews were immediately displaced by all the new Arab states after ww2. just ignoring the elephant that Islam is the biggest colonizer ever in the modern world!
Tim Kennedy is the kind of guy who thinks his participation in Operation Iraqi freedom & Operation Enduring Freedom was actually about Iraqi Freedom & Enduring Freedom.
And you’re the kind of guy that thinks Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom was the sum total of the GWOT. Al Qadea and it’s global network were unilatefly and bilaterally targeted in over 120 different countries by organizations Tim served with. Iraq and Afghanistan were very small pieces of the pie. Stupid comment
@@bo-hn8xz there hasn’t been any? Everywhere you look it’s people ripping off hostage posters, and screaming gas the Jews in the streets. I haven’t seen any pro Israel propaganda
It's all propaganda, both sides. Propaganda can be true, it can be false. It can be positive, it can be negative. That's up to the individual to decide. In some cases there is a clear right and wrong. But to deny that everybody is biased and shuts their propaganda is to deny that you understand yourself and all human beings. You can tell that you don't think what you believe is propaganda. You are very clearly specifying that his belief is the propaganda. And it is. But so is yours. All of it is propaganda
"Israel has never initiated any single conflict" - Operation Cast Lead, initiated by Israel -2008 - Gaza Border Protest Massacre 2018 - Humanitarian Aid Flotella Raid I need what Tim smokes.
Joe, I really love the fact you covering the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. You always prioritize the truth, with an outside of the box way to only show one side of the story. However, in this video, the person you interviewed seemed not telling the truth. I’m one of the locals in Austin area and I was born and raised in overseas in an Arab country. Here some notes you may consider to hear from the other side. 1. Gaza is effectively an open-air prison, heavily controlled by the Israeli military. Everything that enters or leaves does so under the Israeli strict supervision. 2. It's misleading to analyze the current events starting from 7th October without considering the historical context of the last 75 years. This conflict has deep roots, and understanding them is essential for a balanced perspective. It's similar to trying to understand 'Game of Thrones' by starting from the middle of the series. 3. Palestinian refugees have been welcomed in every Arab country and they are allowed to live like every citizen of the country they are registered in without the need to obtain a work permit to work and the first country started that was Iraq.
@@winteeer7868 No, Tim is not a muslim, he is useful fool. A nice and obedient tool that listens to his master and believes the most absurd narratives like "we fight for good and they for evil" 😄 Tim's mind is still maturing, we should give him time and maybe some lessons in geopolitics and human nature.
So what are you saying? That two wrongs make it right? That its ok to butcher innocent women & children that have never picked up a gun in their life, in retaliation?Has Hamas ever presented a peace deal to Israel? It's a genuine question. Maybe they have, and I just can't remember. Enlighten me.
This is what happens when a country allows one side of the political spectrum to gain control of the centralized education system... Centralized anything is at risk to this same concept. When something is centralized, it becomes much easier to corrupt. A big swash of Americans no longer have the ability to think critically, which makes them very susceptible to propaganda.
Many masks have dropped off. People who claimed humanity , peace, .. etc. Who accused Putin, Mussolini, Stalin, Vitler of atrocities they wouldn’t commit themselves. It’s now clear they’re all the same!
@andreilukyanov4286 Exactly. I find it really sad that Joe didn't stop him and presented some counterarguments. But, you never know if Joe is desperate for guests!!
@jackstraw4927 Like his point on "Queers for Palestine" How about you stream going to Gaza with an LGBT shirt and see how long it last? Feels like ppl disregard everything someone says if they disagree with one particular point
@@jackstraw4927the fact that half of the USA wants to rewrite the most important political document in history says that the USA is going to fall. That document being the constitution. That’s what makes you American.
Please invite one of the following to explain the history, because this man is completely out to lunch on his facts. Like big time!! Norman Finklestein John Mearsheimer Illan Pappe Rashid Khalidi Phyllis Bennis Noam Chomsky There are a ton more, but these are some of the most credible and knowledgeable on the topic that I'm aware of.
Max Blumenthal and Abby Martin have both made documentaries about the plight of the Palestinians. This guest is so dumb it hurt my brain listening to his BS propaganda.
@@yudhirgautam1645 Joe knows who signs his checks. He'll never invite Max BIumenłhal or Abby Marłin on the pod' to give an accurate history and account of the current situation. .
For people saying to "read the history books" I want to remind them that history is not grounded in facts, rather it's the winners' interpretation of them that prevails.
Hmm no there’s plenty of non biased history books out there. But one things for sure even the biased history books would be a damn right more legit then what this clown is spewing out😂
Whilst that is true, it's not true all the time and I wish people would stop repeating the quote as something profound, Historians for a while have had a conflict between recording history in it's purest sense, or recording it as propaganda, this is an argument even the Ancient Greeks had, as many didn't like how Herodotus often embellished or straight up made things up in his book. History can be object which is why you have to look at multiple sources, and scrutinise them, history isn't always written by the victor
Tim Kennedy used to be highly praised when he spoke but after he flip flopped and was hypocritical about certain things looks like thats changed, it's sad
He’s wrong about Israel never initiating a conflict. The Suez Canal crisis wasn’t really provoked militarily, Egypt banned them from using it. So it was provoked, just not militarily. That’s THE ONE TIME ISRAEL EVER ATTACKED 1st
Ahmad thinks that there is no Hamas in west bank XD on service i myself guarder around 50-70 hamas activists in the west bank, stop reading your arabic media it's full of lies :*
Tim "Hamas is just the tip of the spear" Joe "Have you seen an orangutan fishing with a spear?" Tim "What? No. I just meant....." Joe "Jamie, pull up the spearfishing orangutan for Tim, please."
Tim’s not a puppet. His whole sheepdog company is explicitly about sharpening the teeth of civilians to make the world better, even against a rogu government. He’s NOT a government stooge.
Damn the Mid East propaganda machine is so strong. Amazing how many people with Muhammad or similar name are here.... When I have never seen this many before. It is the same way on Facebook and other social media. Every Anti Semite all of a sudden got internet if I didnt know any better.
It's called knowing good vs. evil. I hate to inform you that you're a terrorist sympathizer. It's a sad day for the west seeing how dumb people have become due to ridiculous propaganda. Morons.
Before Hamas, the palestinians were governed by Fatah, which used to be a full blown terrorist organization. What he means is if palestinians stop being governed by terrorist oprganizations, its possibpe to have peace.
noone is stopping them from getting all that shit themselves, but being muslims they ofc rely on the western world payin for literally everything, then crying about being "oppresed".
It’s called a war tactic 😂 Maybe their government should’ve spent their billions on food and maybe if they didn’t make their water pipes into bombs it wouldn’t be a problem.
He is just another dumb jock that loves Israel because he’s a “I served my country” drivel driver. Rogan needs to have on Mohammad Hijab to set the record straight
Hearing him speak is pure cringe. He just speaks with no consciousness. Is no wonder people are waking up and just see how much people like this are subjects to the world problem. And Joe was so not himself, almost brainwashed by this guy and not questioning. I'm most blow away by how this guy seems to be a patriot and loves to say the word terrorist (literally orgasms every time he says it), yet he doesn't realize that America was founded by terrorist. Just imagine if he was alive during the Revolutionary War, he would just bandwagon England and call Thomas Jefferson and his freedom fighters terrorists.
I read your first sentence and died of pure cringe. Imagine reading the rest of your incoherent mentally ill rage@@CasuallyAuthentic don't worry no one will loser.
He’s a military vet lmao he knows more than most of us and people supporting hamas are the ones who are ignorant. I’m not supporting Israel either they should’ve done better in west bank and support the palestine people more but most of that region is anti semantic
Ya these are all right wing talking points.. literally every single thing. Dude watched an episode of Ben Shapiro and just regurgitated it on Rogan lmao.
@@megaluke007no one's that gently see both sides and don't wanna just kill arabs because of his friends who were killed by them when they raided them when he was in the military
He doesn't have the guts or intelligence but yes , yes that would be good for everybody. this guy is a goon and a clown of one if that is even possible.
Keep in mind Gaza had a ceasefire before this. They are their own independent country. 500,000 gazans peacefully cross into Israel to work. You can cry foul all you fucking want about how horrible the bombings are (undeniable) but the US bombed 100X what Israel has and all the loudmouths never made a god damn peep.
Some of what he says is rights but it’s sooo one sided 😭 he like Israel defending never started a conflict like bruh British gave Jews 40% land and Arabs 60% but nowadays Israel stole that Arabs entire 60% in somehow “defending” not invading according to them they literally pushed them all to the Egypt border by bombing tf out of them and took every part of there land even the 40% the Jews on is palestian land so they basically took 100% of the land with the British help ofc people are gonna stand up and fight against it he’s like Hamas should surrender those terrorist like then what so Israel takes the entire land and throws Arabs into IDF ran colonies like they do palestian Jews who were there from the start they hate them kick them out of the capital they hate everyone who isn’t them there is a video of Israeli Jews spitting on christans holding a cross, like IDF bombs hospital/school then says there was a base under human meat shields like bruh u still bombed a preschool and hospital if there was a base under or not they will bomb 100 civillians to get 1 terroist or they just say Hamas bomb themselves missle misfire yea like ok buddy just like how putin bomb his own nordstream pipeline according to USA make it make sense, I’m not saying Hamas is good they did terrible things Oct 7 700 Israeli civilians dead but still isn’t close to the 30,000 palestian civillians dead and he’s right they would kill every Israeli Jew if they could but still what do u expect they been invaded and oppressed for 70 years then made to look like the bad guys when there just trying to protect there land and house/lifestyle
Tim Kennedy dominated Bisping and he was a green beret so he's seen and experienced a lot of stuff and actually knows what he's talking about unlike you ignorant keyboard fools.
@@forever-fm1rwMicheal Bisping is a former world champion and household name to all mma fans😂😂you're the fucking delusional fan boy in this situation
PIJ brigades coordinates with Hamas for "activities" in the West Bank to keep Israeli forces there instead of Gaza (including 3 IEDs yesterday). That's before you talk about their leaders meeting with Iran in Lebanon or how corrupt and wasteful the PA is. So no, the West Bank is problematic too
He says if Palestine put down their weapons there’d be peace. Yeah, peace at the cost of their rights lmao. I’d like to see Tim live in those conditions and accept peace. Israel has literally compared them to animals.
@@UndeadSoldierEno Tim was very pro Israel and had a bias stand point immediately lol he’s definitely doesn’t know Israel’s history or in fact even Jewish ancient history…
@@endrykperez412 he spit nothing but facts u probably some kinda victim mentality loser who thinks his actions don’t have consequences because you have it hard :(
@@hertfordable he literally lost his tenure and has been called out MULTIPLE time for being a cherry picker to push a false narrative. He can’t even teach at schools anymore bc his credibility is GONE.
Yes, but he is not wrong on this one though. Since 2001 44,000 terrorist attacks have been carried out all in the name of one religion. Have any guesses on which one it was?
@@ronaldmcboggled9855 yeah oppression and us war mongering tend to do that. Ever asked yourself why latam/asian countries almost never get targeted by terrorists ? Because they are mostly peaceful nations on the global stage
@@zakariacherif8197you mean they are mostly docile countries nobody is afraid of on the world stage. That’s why they don’t mess with them. On top of that, the Asian countries treat their people terrible. Labor camps. Communism. Chopping limbs off….so spare everyone the peaceful BS. They just know they don’t have what it takes to make waves and back it up.
He said if Hamas goes away, there will be peace. Does this idiot know Hamas was created only back in 1987. Palestinians have been getting expelled from their land for 75 years.
Palestinians were subjects of ottomans, British, romans, Egypt, Persians, Greeks .they never owned anything. However jews ruling isreal with jew kings is a historical fact
the thread of radical islam runs thru gaza, west bank, jordan, into iran, iraq, most of middle east, and please look up islamic jihad in africa, eg. nigeria ... jews dont have any record of terrorism outside Israel (Im only including Israel because Im giving the anti-Israel argument the benefit of the doubt ...
Seriously! For people to pretend hamas are freedom fighters, it is absurd. If native Americans killed 50,000 Americans (ratio for Israel to USA population) and then hid behind their civilians, the native americans would not be looked at as the victims when the americans responded. Now with Israelis, The Jews were living in that land before the Muslim religion was even created so you cannot even compare Palestinians to native americans, because Palestinains are not native to that land,.
Nothing has been learned. How many innocent Palestinians of Gaza have been killed by bombings in this conflict? How many members of their family are still alive? You just created a generation or more of future enemies. The same thing happened in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's fascinating how so many people can be 100% sure of the truth in any given situation, and be ready to condemn millions, while so many on the opposite side are 100% sure of the truth in any given situation, and are likewise ready to condemn millions. We're living in 2 different worlds, 5 ft from each other.
Which context would justify slaughtering over a thousand jews then? You'll be surprised but not everything in life is a gray area. There are unambiguous answers to some things in life.
@brumylee Israel has stolen land from the Palestinians for decades and outright attacked civilians ( in fact, just this year, Biden and our government condemned Israel for continuing to steal Palastinian land). The state of Israel was also founded on stolen land ( the whole area has been in dispute and changed hands many times over the centuries). I am not excusing Hamas in any way, but even the U.N. has declared the Israel / Palestine situation an Aparthied state. The Palestinians should have been a recognized state decades ago, and it is a fact that the state of Israel has treated them like animals. Hamas is a direct result of this situation. Israel has committed countless war crimes that have been submitted to the U.N. and in almost all cases, the only country to veto the charges was solely the USA. They have used our support and military equipment to perpetrate these crimes, and whatever crimes Israel commits, the U.S. is considered directly reaponsible by the Arab world; which I think very few people here realize.
@@sassycaterpillar6631 that was the goal - pentagon reported in their accounts that they do not know where 2.1 trillion dollars went then literally months later 9/11 happened and then US defense requested 2.1 trillion dollars in order to fight “terrorists” and search for WMD 🤷♂️ follow the money trail
Like that Palestine was given their land by Israel, and then Hamas took it over like that history, or that like Palestine wasn’t even a region what history bites you talk about
@@jefftv9912Probably how Jews and western civilization are responsible for the current state of Palestinians and Islamic countries in general. That seems to be the only “truth” they’re willing to accept.
@@jaymann5180Hamas was voted in, democratically in 2006. And yeah, the British mandate known as Palestine which existed for precisely 27 years had Arabs and Jews (which were approx 15% of the population) people acting as if Jews were never there, they were always there. Not to mention the Arab Pogroms imposed on the Jewish demographic in the region - in Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed ( Tzfat), Tiberius, etc etc etc all done BEFORE the creation of Israel.
Mr. Rogan, for such a complicated conflict I urge you to bring some of the professionals who devoted a big part of their life persuading the truth, such as Abby Martins which she have been on your show talking about this conflict, you have also Dr Norman Finkelstein, Dr. Gabor Maté, James Schneider who are all either holocaust survivors themself or decedents of holocaust's survivors.
@@devoncordora3319 So what Israeli is doing in the West Bank is Hamas fault too?! Look at the map of Palestine 1948 and now and tell me who is the aggressor?! Tim is delusional. Israeli is the occupation force.
Joe Rogan is disgusting. He claims he's all for honesty yet he's interviewing a dumbass who is promoting the genocide of Palestinians. History WILL remember that Joe.
@@levin1374Hamas isn’t the start of the conflict, it’s an outcome of one. Think man just think and learn that’s all. I have 0 reasons to be support of Palestinians but I am. They’re literally the new South Africa, an offspring of colonial days literally.
Absolutely... When Rogans guest said that every conflict was not initiated by Israel i spat my coffee out ! BS ! The King david hotel Massacre? is a prime example of cutting his decemination of propaganda out !
Not gunna trust Tim when he literally says he’s gunna do whatever the army tells him with no questions asked. Meaning he doesn’t care if it’s wrong or right. 😂
@@ganggang3788 Contrary to popular belief, you would be SHOCKED at just how much of the world does consider the US military a type of terrorist organization.
Yep just like: China this, China that. They want to take over, bla bla.. We need to protect our businesses. Meanwhile Apple is still making almost everything China.
@@Bushido_Brown.so thats your only options. You either believe the government, or you believe Hamas? That sounds like something George Bush said before the invasion of Iraq.
All the changes brought about because the Arabs would not let the Jews live in peace in the land allocated to them. They attacked and got their a** kicked every time and lost territory. To the victor go the spoils
It’s his buddy Joe doesn’t want to call him out gives him a free pass just like his cia propaganda pal Baker and his chemical weapons lies in Syria or how Bibi the terrorist and the USA created Hamas to counter the PLO and stop the progress of establishing a Palestinian State
The fact that he says he has absolutely no say in anything, he just does what the military tells him to do shows what kind of person he really is and his morals. Just a battle robot who drank the koolaid
@@jayAh635thats bs anyone can choose to not follow orders if they know what they’re doing is wrong. That’s when you say fuck this I’m out and tear your flag off your sleeve and leave it at the door on your way out
This is insane, but I'm not surprised all he know what the media showed him. Everyone knows that Americans have no clue about anything except stereotypes fed to them by Hollywood and the US media
Dear Joe! In this subject we strongly recomend that you link up wit Dr. Gabor Maté. The man have good information that can empower people from both sides and also remember some about the history of this war. We are counting on you as you have the biggest platform in this planet. Big up from Africa. 💪
Isn't it funny how the media talks about how racist Americans are for wanting border security but yet Israel literally has a militarised border and that's okay. Hypocrisy because those who own and control the media want to different agendas for both nations.
Thanks Joe Rogan To show People to see the Truth 😢there are babies Man Who Dies Got Butchered Every single Hour Imagine If Would Have Born there and Our Dead body on Ground due to some Hatred Occupation 😢:/
Exactly. Hamas was only set up in 1987 in response to the annexing of land and killing of civilians since 1948 but people actually believe this BS that Israel are just victims.
Arab nations attacked Israel in 6 day war and Yom Kippur war… Arab nations engaged and lost and Israel gained more territory in the region You can look at maps of territory 1948 then1967 then 1973
@@stephenstauffer5048 Yes, but what about the stern gang and other operatives who were charged with clearing the land of people to make it ready for Jewish settlers. 'a land without people for a people without land'. Indeed.
Tim Kennedy strikes me as both someone who could kill me with his bare hands but is also that kid on the playground who claims to have a blackbelt in everything.
@@realdata8624what was he ignorant about? Please provide dates,numbers and geopolitical context that contradict what he said, or don't bother answering me.
There were millions of people moving around at those years as borders of new countries were defined. Your tunnel vision and lack of geopolical context is not doing anyone justice believe me.
That's literally the history of the world guy. Everyone is living on land that someone else was living on and made to leave. Big bank take lil bank. Life ain't fair. Carry a bigger stick. Till then stfu and get off my land
I love how people talk about propaganda about others but they never think they are manipulated by it
It doesn’t make sense to talk about government propaganda when you work for the government and still support its evil ways man this guy is lost . Of course some Olof this is true but man he’s just adding more confusion
Most people still think that their own side is not manipulating anyone. The dark reality is every side in every conflict is lying. Always. Ukraine, Gaza, everywhere. Think about it: they're killing people by the thousands, what's a lie for them??
Most veteran guests are pro war. They see it as spreading freedom.
This issue is quite cut and dry unless you're fucking stupid....
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Tim is one of those guys that truly believes that this is all happening because the terrorist hate us because we are free.
They don’t hate us because we are free dummy. They hate us because our lifestyle doesn’t go with their Islamic lifestyle and they look at us as sinful people that deserve death.
And you’re a bot
Bruh I swear I despise special force bros mentality. They just wanna justify death by any means.
They do.
@@rylanrobinson8487 I'm not a bot and I 100% agree with OP even if they are a bot.
People like you are no better than CNN. Someone can explain for an hour the nuances of an issue and your response would be to take a 3 second clip of the person and use that out of context to tell people why they really just hate freedom. GTFO dude.
The fact that he said millions of Palestinians are “allowing “ Hamas to govern them. 😐 Like maybe someone should explain to him what’s been happening there for the past 15-20 years.
actually israel has been oppressing them for 75 years
@@nicknick3929 How? by giving them free water and electricity? allowing money and aid to be enter into Gaza. to then be taken by Hamas to buy more weapons instead of improving the lives of the people they are suppose to govern? please educate yourself before you say shit.
@@Dor_Z So say for example I show up on your door on some random day and tell you this is my home and all the resources in it are mine then I do you a favour to let you live in the basement and do you other favours such as giving you meals 3 times a day. I also frequently invade your privacy by coming to the basement with weapons and bully you and don’t let you do your religious rituals. How does that sound? U down with that? Mr. “Very educated, who doesn’t talk shit” man.
50% of Palestinians are in support of Hamas. Look it up.
@@fazyl3416 Again you are talking out of your ass, the only people Israel goes into their homes are people who smuggle weapons and terrorist members.
other than that they do nothing. on top of that Israel has no control or say in whats going on in Gaza or the west bank. NONE.
they have their own governing bodies that instead of taking care of them they use the money they get for terror.
Edit: and yes GO EDUCATE YOURSELF Jesus..
I know Joe knows more about this conflict than to not challenge this man at all on anything for 15 minutes.
Right? He’s had Abby Martin on quite a few times and she exposed what’s really happening. You’d think he interject and call it like it is.
I felt the same way when I've seen him sit back and let pro-palestinians speak easily refutable points like "Israel just decided to take 80% of British palestine" this forgetting that in 46 Jordan took 78% of Palestine. 900k Jews were immediately displaced by all the new Arab states after ww2. just ignoring the elephant that Islam is the biggest colonizer ever in the modern world!
@@harkmay who said that?
He got the memo this time to stay far far away.
@@harkmayIslam is a colonizer ? Dude the global south is looking at you like a meme.
I came here to talk shit about this Tim guy, until I saw so many people already did. Warms me heart
He's a pro-war, government shill
Same here 😂
Exactly!!
Tim Kennedy is the kind of guy who thinks his participation in Operation Iraqi freedom & Operation Enduring Freedom was actually about Iraqi Freedom & Enduring Freedom.
yep my thoughts exactly
You’re the kind of guy that justifies Hamas actions of murder and genocide.
he was a spec ops guy, he doesn’t have the same mindset as a typical civilian
And you’re the kind of guy that thinks Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom was the sum total of the GWOT. Al Qadea and it’s global network were unilatefly and bilaterally targeted in over 120 different countries by organizations Tim served with. Iraq and Afghanistan were very small pieces of the pie.
Stupid comment
@@nochilllwillright a psychopathic mindset.
The way this guy said just said Israel "has never" initiated conflict, in such a confident way, was hilarious. He thinks he's really spitting facts.
I nearly choked when he said that
That and Israel never bombed a hospital. Etc
@@VincentMcGann-n7n they never did dipstick
Give him a break! This poor guy can't read 😢
Name one attack that Israel initiated
@@VincentMcGann-n7nit was hamas that bombed the hospital and blamed it on Israel. Look it up. Besides who started first? Hamas on October 7th
Israel never initiated a conflict? Excuse me?
Yes. Never. Excuse yourself
Right?! The absolute audacity.
He's ignorant and glueless. Believes everything he see on mainstream media. Typical American
the most insane statement you can come out with
even the zionist doesn't believe that
@@TagMahirTzedek you are ignorant. Even the 6 Day War was technically started by Israel. It was a "pre-emptive" attack. Check yourself.
It's pathetic how many people can't think for themselves
Agree the amount of free Palestine nonsense is becoming ridiculous . People just following the latest trend
@@ronoccckeep falling for pro Israel propaganda u goof
@@bo-hn8xz there hasn’t been any? Everywhere you look it’s people ripping off hostage posters, and screaming gas the Jews in the streets. I haven’t seen any pro Israel propaganda
What do you identify as??? IGNORANT!!!! DING, DING, DING...winner line up for another participation trophy.
Freeing an occupied and terrorised people is nonsense? 😂
He is exactly the person you would want your propaganda to effect the most 😂
Its not propaganda its true, its history ..go read
It's all propaganda, both sides.
Propaganda can be true, it can be false.
It can be positive, it can be negative.
That's up to the individual to decide.
In some cases there is a clear right and wrong.
But to deny that everybody is biased and shuts their propaganda is to deny that you understand yourself and all human beings.
You can tell that you don't think what you believe is propaganda.
You are very clearly specifying that his belief is the propaganda.
And it is.
But so is yours.
All of it is propaganda
He has fought n killed some people in Iraq, and who pushed the lie of WMD ???
@@TheKerenMichaeliit's literally propaganda, most of the shit he said in this video is not true at all
He is likely probably part of the propaganda. Ex military too.
"Israel has never initiated any single conflict"
- Operation Cast Lead, initiated by Israel -2008
- Gaza Border Protest Massacre 2018
- Humanitarian Aid Flotella Raid
I need what Tim smokes.
Everyone that's fighting for something believes they are on the good side
That's usually how resentment and vengeance operate. Both Hamas and Zionists are guilty. It's actually easy to understand if we can accept the truth
…and who the hero is all depends on who is telling the story.
@@mermaid9422 99% of the time just see which side the us army is on and you'll locate the villain of the story
Every way of a man is right in his own eyes. The Lord ponders the heart.
yes of course.. the germans also believed in ww2 that they were fighting the good fight.. its an empty statement @@mermaid9422
when you are colonized and you resist then you are labeled a terrorist
Joe, I really love the fact you covering the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. You always prioritize the truth, with an outside of the box way to only show one side of the story. However, in this video, the person you interviewed seemed not telling the truth.
I’m one of the locals in Austin area and I was born and raised in overseas in an Arab country.
Here some notes you may consider to hear from the other side.
1. Gaza is effectively an open-air prison, heavily controlled by the Israeli military. Everything that enters or leaves does so under the Israeli strict supervision.
2. It's misleading to analyze the current events starting from 7th October without considering the historical context of the last 75 years. This conflict has deep roots, and understanding them is essential for a balanced perspective.
It's similar to trying to understand 'Game of Thrones' by starting from the middle of the series.
3. Palestinian refugees have been welcomed in every Arab country and they are allowed to live like every citizen of the country they are registered in without the need to obtain a work permit to work and the first country started that was Iraq.
This guy eats propaganda for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Never skips a meal 😂😂
And so are you, but on the other side of the breakfast, lunch, and dinner table.
@@marcofdelosand how do you know 😂? Do you see any videos of me where I parrot debunked false news and make a fool of myself?
@@kay44 Nope, no videos, just your comment against Tim. Your words prove you're doing that.
He’s not muslim that is brainwashed since birth by their religion. But he’s american soo that’ll be 60/40 chance
@@winteeer7868 No, Tim is not a muslim, he is useful fool. A nice and obedient tool that listens to his master and believes the most absurd narratives like "we fight for good and they for evil" 😄
Tim's mind is still maturing, we should give him time and maybe some lessons in geopolitics and human nature.
I’m going to go watch back his fights with Romero and Gastelum
hahhaha hell yus.. that boi got flattened
Well 42 seconds in and bro is already spewing propaganda
Am Israel Hay - עם ישראל חי 🇮🇱
Ive been to Israel, I've seen how Israel is a MASSIVE INSTIGATOR.
says a Puerto Rican boy...lol
So what are you saying? That two wrongs make it right? That its ok to butcher innocent women & children that have never picked up a gun in their life, in retaliation?Has Hamas ever presented a peace deal to Israel? It's a genuine question. Maybe they have, and I just can't remember. Enlighten me.
that's a troll ignore it lol @@J0nny_Ch1mp0
like he would know what's the truth about Israel from Puerto Rico @@J0nny_Ch1mp0
Why are people still dying in the West Bank there’s no hamas there
This is what happens when a country allows one side of the political spectrum to gain control of the centralized education system...
Centralized anything is at risk to this same concept.
When something is centralized, it becomes much easier to corrupt.
A big swash of Americans no longer have the ability to think critically, which makes them very susceptible to propaganda.
So true
Many masks have dropped off. People who claimed humanity , peace, .. etc. Who accused Putin, Mussolini, Stalin, Vitler of atrocities they wouldn’t commit themselves. It’s now clear they’re all the same!
“no longer”? Pick up a copy of de Tocqueville’s Democracy In America, and you’ll see what a retarded shit show this place has been since the outset.
what are you talking about? this is the least brainwashed americans have been on israel/palestine yet
Be specific dude wtf you talking about
Stupidity is getting mainstream now in America. Pretty much every single claim Tim made is screaming ignorance and Stupidity.
Instead of inviting Tim Kennedy, Joe could have just switched on Fox News and make a zoom-in on it.
@andreilukyanov4286
Exactly.
I find it really sad that Joe didn't stop him and presented some counterarguments. But, you never know if Joe is desperate for guests!!
Ive never listened to a rogan clip that has infuriated me so much.
Why are u infuriated, what is it about this clip??
The truth hurts bozo
@@lovemyalaskaful because its typical American behaviour. Getting involved in a conflict where its none of their business
Tim showing us his true colors
We support Israel. Get over it.
It’s good money shilling for zog.
@@Aus200 By “we”, do you mean vets?
@@Aus200you support current thing. That's it.
Joe : “you think the U.S. is going to fall”
Tim: “yes , we’re fat and families don’t have enough guns”.
Kinda missing the point, but I mean...
@@KaoticReach1999 bad points are easily missed .
@jackstraw4927 Like his point on "Queers for Palestine"
How about you stream going to Gaza with an LGBT shirt and see how long it last? Feels like ppl disregard everything someone says if they disagree with one particular point
@@KaoticReach1999 sir , I commented about the gentleman’s contention that the US is going to fall … how’d we get to queers for Palestine 😂
@@jackstraw4927the fact that half of the USA wants to rewrite the most important political document in history says that the USA is going to fall. That document being the constitution. That’s what makes you American.
Please invite one of the following to explain the history, because this man is completely out to lunch on his facts. Like big time!!
Norman Finklestein
John Mearsheimer
Illan Pappe
Rashid Khalidi
Phyllis Bennis
Noam Chomsky
There are a ton more, but these are some of the most credible and knowledgeable on the topic that I'm aware of.
Max Blumenthal and Abby Martin have both made documentaries about the plight of the Palestinians. This guest is so dumb it hurt my brain listening to his BS propaganda.
They will keep inviting same repeated old guests that they agree with
We need Ryan Dawson/Scott Ritter and Adam Green!!! This wud be a banger, but Joe wud never
@@yudhirgautam1645
Joe knows who signs his checks. He'll never invite Max BIumenłhal or Abby Marłin on the pod' to give an accurate history and account of the current situation. .
Joe Rogan looks tired, and stressed! Hang in there brother! Thanks for your vital information!
🤡
Joes fine, he's just high as a kite lol
You spelled stoned wrong
How is he stressed? He does everything he loves and gets paid tons of money doing it. Plus he has 200 million. Not hating but he’s not stressed.
Joe's just tired of listening to the BS coming out of this fools mouth.
For people saying to "read the history books" I want to remind them that history is not grounded in facts, rather it's the winners' interpretation of them that prevails.
Hmm no there’s plenty of non biased history books out there. But one things for sure even the biased history books would be a damn right more legit then what this clown is spewing out😂
OK that's true and all. But when the history is being unraveled as we speak and still happening, all the facts are there.
Whilst that is true, it's not true all the time and I wish people would stop repeating the quote as something profound, Historians for a while have had a conflict between recording history in it's purest sense, or recording it as propaganda, this is an argument even the Ancient Greeks had, as many didn't like how Herodotus often embellished or straight up made things up in his book.
History can be object which is why you have to look at multiple sources, and scrutinise them, history isn't always written by the victor
@@MasterIceyywell said
Which is why you don't read just one account of history, but multiple accounts to read between the lines and connect the dots.
Tim Kennedy used to be highly praised when he spoke but after he flip flopped and was hypocritical about certain things looks like thats changed, it's sad
He’s wrong about Israel never initiating a conflict. The Suez Canal crisis wasn’t really provoked militarily, Egypt banned them from using it. So it was provoked, just not militarily. That’s THE ONE TIME ISRAEL EVER ATTACKED 1st
“If all Hamas went away we would have peace” West Bank left the chat
This deserves more likes
This deserves so much more likes
Yep. Fatah is also a huge issue.
Ahmad thinks that there is no Hamas in west bank XD
on service i myself guarder around 50-70 hamas activists in the west bank, stop reading your arabic media it's full of lies :*
Exactly
Tim "Hamas is just the tip of the spear"
Joe "Have you seen an orangutan fishing with a spear?"
Tim "What? No. I just meant....."
Joe "Jamie, pull up the spearfishing orangutan for Tim, please."
lol
I couldn't watch this brainwashed fool but if Joe interrupted him like that then well done JR... he doesn't believe that bs.
LOL, and take your vitamins!
Thank you man this was the first time I lol’d in days
😂😂
I love that people can now see the puppets in plain sight, regardless of who they are
Because of independent journalism that isn’t controlled by Zionists
joe almost sayed stop the cap
Facts. I used to like Tim
Tim’s not a puppet. His whole sheepdog company is explicitly about sharpening the teeth of civilians to make the world better, even against a rogu government. He’s NOT a government stooge.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If USA/West Leadership
- Finance,Arm to defend an Apartheid
- Democratic or Fascist masquerading as Democratic?
How is Joe not getting second hand embarrassment listening to this guy 😭
He's telling the truth
No lies told.
Lol you would believe Bigfoot is real if he said it.
@@Fawazzle Not at all
@@Fawazzlebro🤛
Joe should ask Tim how did the intelligence agency miss all this.
How can he know?
@@yoavvaoyExactly. He doesn't know a lot of the things that he chose to talk about.
Dont be so naive. It was clearly allowed to happen or was a false flag.
Netanyanhu was warned by Egypt ten days before it happened.....look it up
@@farmbear1231 I see this as being most likely.
This guy can become an Israeli spokesperson, he probably already is
Damn the Mid East propaganda machine is so strong. Amazing how many people with Muhammad or similar name are here.... When I have never seen this many before. It is the same way on Facebook and other social media. Every Anti Semite all of a sudden got internet if I didnt know any better.
He sound like it
It's called knowing good vs. evil. I hate to inform you that you're a terrorist sympathizer. It's a sad day for the west seeing how dumb people have become due to ridiculous propaganda. Morons.
When did israel attack Hamas ?
@@howdareu96470 yrs ago, and every day since.
“If all of HAMAS went away we would have peace.” I’m pretty damn sure HAMAS was founded in 1987. The conflict is older.
HAMAS was funded by Israel back in the day as well
Before Hamas, the palestinians were governed by Fatah, which used to be a full blown terrorist organization. What he means is if palestinians stop being governed by terrorist oprganizations, its possibpe to have peace.
Yep. It started in 1948 when 750,000 Palestinians were forced at gun point from their land by the British and Israelis.
No Hamas in West Bank either 🤔
@@saraakcayof course there is. Have you done any research before writing this?
No FOOD,No WATER,No Fuel is collective punishment
It’s a war tactic that’s been used for thousands of years.
noone is stopping them from getting all that shit themselves, but being muslims they ofc rely on the western world payin for literally everything, then crying about being "oppresed".
Lol go donate good man
It’s called a war tactic 😂
Maybe their government should’ve spent their billions on food and maybe if they didn’t make their water pipes into bombs it wouldn’t be a problem.
@@kayzeefivesixace Maybe Israel could stop bombing and shooting up the aid that's being dropped. Y'know, just maybe.
This guy does what he's told plain & simple whatever the government narrative is this guy will obey it.
Yup
You probably pay to read The NY Times 😂
He is just another dumb jock that loves Israel because he’s a “I served my country” drivel driver. Rogan needs to have on Mohammad Hijab to set the record straight
Hearing him speak is pure cringe. He just speaks with no consciousness. Is no wonder people are waking up and just see how much people like this are subjects to the world problem. And Joe was so not himself, almost brainwashed by this guy and not questioning. I'm most blow away by how this guy seems to be a patriot and loves to say the word terrorist (literally orgasms every time he says it), yet he doesn't realize that America was founded by terrorist. Just imagine if he was alive during the Revolutionary War, he would just bandwagon England and call Thomas Jefferson and his freedom fighters terrorists.
I read your first sentence and died of pure cringe. Imagine reading the rest of your incoherent mentally ill rage@@CasuallyAuthentic don't worry no one will loser.
Tim is the mouth piece for the military industrial complex, I’m not sure what Joe was looking to learn from Tim aside from how ignorant he is haha
The dude is addicted to war.
Notice how he does media tours for every major issue?
@@1988ZER it’s how he makes a large sum of his money, he’s personally invested in the deaths of other human beings, wild
He’s a military vet lmao he knows more than most of us and people supporting hamas are the ones who are ignorant. I’m not supporting Israel either they should’ve done better in west bank and support the palestine people more but most of that region is anti semantic
He's a war robot
This is like a little kid saying I'm not the bad guy you are. It's like Bullying a kid and crying to the teacher when they bite back.
Tim saying america has no idea how to fight a proxy war is the funniest thing
He is right, "we" lose every proxy war if you havent noticed.
@@FookU2b "winning" is subjective. the primary goal is usually to make the opposing side go broke even if it means they take a pyrrhic victory
America has interfered in the governments of 80 countries.
@@FookU2b Won the proxy war with the USSR in Afghanistan, well, for a few decades anyway. Now America just loses wars
Ya what gives Tim the credentials to talk about military stuff. Does he even GI JOES!
I don't know what history lessons this guy has received. I thought it was Bibi talking for a second.
right
Ya these are all right wing talking points.. literally every single thing. Dude watched an episode of Ben Shapiro and just regurgitated it on Rogan lmao.
no kidding - the fact Joe just trusts what this guy is saying is disgusting and bullshit
That's a compliment
in dont think he trust him hes just letting his rant I think I hope so😅😅 @@x_Gorilla
I have better luck asking my pet rock for a sensible take than from Tim Kennedy
Just remember not to throw your rocks at people
@@TheIdo14 No heavens no! That’s what my convenient stash of highly flammable alcohol is for.
@@spamtong7912not surprised, lmao brainwashed
says the leftist, nothing of what he say was wrong... commy npc
Why? Maybe what you know is not true. You're getting you're info from who? The same people that said the vaccines are safe and effective
The Israel narrative right there...
So you’re for the Hamas narrative then? Another terrorist I see In the comments. Y’all are pathetic.
🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Reality is a really good narrative
Just because you fought in war, doesn't mean you understand its motives.
He nailed everything correctly, and Inguess you are not from Israel or Gaza so he had a bit more experience than you 😊
Yeah you know better cause you watch tiktok reels. Lol.
experience in what? being american ?@@TheEliyacohen
and you take the word of this guy as a proof of something lol what a dummy@@dennissapir2776
@@ostravska being a soldier you lil computer geek 😂
This. Is. Satire.
I wish Joe brought on real global political experts
You mean "experts" that will say what you want to hear?
These are the real experts. Not paid off to lie to people like you into believing everything on the news
@@deavonrichards7157falling riighhtt into that propaganda 😂😂
@@megaluke007no one's that gently see both sides and don't wanna just kill arabs because of his friends who were killed by them when they raided them when he was in the military
Yes… the experts… what a joke people like you make this world into. Didn’t you read 1984 when you were a kid?
Abby Martin should debate Tim on the show and Jamie should fact check
1 million percent This
She is Fantastic
He doesn't have the guts or intelligence but yes , yes that would be good for everybody. this guy is a goon and a clown of one if that is even possible.
Jamie should not fact check bring in someone who actually knows what they are doing.
Keep in mind Gaza had a ceasefire before this. They are their own independent country. 500,000 gazans peacefully cross into Israel to work. You can cry foul all you fucking want about how horrible the bombings are (undeniable) but the US bombed 100X what Israel has and all the loudmouths never made a god damn peep.
If only I knew as much about the Israel-Palestine conflict as Tim Kennedy, maybe I can sleep better at night.
Some of what he says is rights but it’s sooo one sided 😭 he like Israel defending never started a conflict like bruh British gave Jews 40% land and Arabs 60% but nowadays Israel stole that Arabs entire 60% in somehow “defending” not invading according to them they literally pushed them all to the Egypt border by bombing tf out of them and took every part of there land even the 40% the Jews on is palestian land so they basically took 100% of the land with the British help ofc people are gonna stand up and fight against it he’s like Hamas should surrender those terrorist like then what so Israel takes the entire land and throws Arabs into IDF ran colonies like they do palestian Jews who were there from the start they hate them kick them out of the capital they hate everyone who isn’t them there is a video of Israeli Jews spitting on christans holding a cross, like IDF bombs hospital/school then says there was a base under human meat shields like bruh u still bombed a preschool and hospital if there was a base under or not they will bomb 100 civillians to get 1 terroist or they just say Hamas bomb themselves missle misfire yea like ok buddy just like how putin bomb his own nordstream pipeline according to USA make it make sense, I’m not saying Hamas is good they did terrible things Oct 7 700 Israeli civilians dead but still isn’t close to the 30,000 palestian civillians dead and he’s right they would kill every Israeli Jew if they could but still what do u expect they been invaded and oppressed for 70 years then made to look like the bad guys when there just trying to protect there land and house/lifestyle
Your recounting of history starts in the 1900s. Your a clown that wasted 30 minutes. Try presenting a concise thesis next time
“Tim Kennedy is a tool” Michael Bisping.
Now I understand why bisping said that
Why did he say that? Don't just spout the insult, elaborate.
Coming from a delusional random person
Tim Kennedy dominated Bisping and he was a green beret so he's seen and experienced a lot of stuff and actually knows what he's talking about unlike you ignorant keyboard fools.
@@forever-fm1rwMicheal Bisping is a former world champion and household name to all mma fans😂😂you're the fucking delusional fan boy in this situation
@@ThaStranger11the misinformation in this video and the bias. Him siding with Israel’s terror attacks is why he is a tool
….there’s no Hamas in the West Bank, please enlighten us on what’s going on there 😂
😂😂😂
there is... lying isnt going to help solve this problem...
Hammas is all over the west bank ,Israel just made hundreds arrests there of hammas terrorist. So you go educated yourself.
@@yonatanran659blue and white terrorists
source please@@yonatanran659
Tim got hit in the head too many times
Someone noticed.
It’s finally completed: th-cam.com/video/xDC7a0aiOC4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=s0z4AYqUPTY_L1oJ
As the good Bassem Yousef said “imagine a world without Hamas let’s call this world WEST BANK”
PIJ brigades coordinates with Hamas for "activities" in the West Bank to keep Israeli forces there instead of Gaza (including 3 IEDs yesterday). That's before you talk about their leaders meeting with Iran in Lebanon or how corrupt and wasteful the PA is. So no, the West Bank is problematic too
@@xXLgtscopsXxPA is Israelis puppet and armed Jewish settlers are not innocent civilians
He says if Palestine put down their weapons there’d be peace. Yeah, peace at the cost of their rights lmao. I’d like to see Tim live in those conditions and accept peace. Israel has literally compared them to animals.
Yeah this is an easily disprovable lie…
@@xXLgtscopsXxyou just lied
hey joe, you need to put an iq test for ivinted guests to save everyone's time
JRE is really falling off… or maybe I’m just wanting more from a podcast now.
calling people stupid because they don't conform to your views. typical.
@@UndeadSoldierEno Tim was very pro Israel and had a bias stand point immediately lol he’s definitely doesn’t know Israel’s history or in fact even Jewish ancient history…
@@UndeadSoldierEyou think this war is about views?? 😂😂😂 you guys are living in lala land
Well that’s you f%^ked then.
Bro's holding a Israeli passport sure of it 😂😂 fucking hell
It’s just the truth
Your being Antisemitic!
@@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440no it's not
@@endrykperez412 he spit nothing but facts u probably some kinda victim mentality loser who thinks his actions don’t have consequences because you have it hard :(
He is a USA hero! He is holding a humanity passport, something that is missed for too many people of the world, including yourself.
Please Joe you are a purveyor of truth, please have Dr Norman Finkelstein on your show. We need honest conversations.
Tbh everything he said was pretty much true. He does leave out quite a lot and the whole other side of the story but he still isn't wrong
@@Ronin.97 who
LMAO the guy who LOST his tenure for cherry picking history?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@kayzeefivesixace guy lost her tenure, I’m confused explain
@@hertfordable he literally lost his tenure and has been called out MULTIPLE time for being a cherry picker to push a false narrative. He can’t even teach at schools anymore bc his credibility is GONE.
Tim is the type to still believe Iraq has WMDs
😂😂😂
Joe seems like he’s buying it too.
Newspaper will have you hating…..…
President Obama is so stunning and brave coming out as the first Gay President of Color 🏳️🌈🙊
@@SenorGrandePP Is that because you cons are still scared of his wife for looking stronger than you?
🤣💯😂
Tim is the quintessntial westoid with the "they hate our freedom" mentality
It's so Goddamn dumb. I'm pretty sure it's the drone strikes, sanctions, white phosphorus, and puppet governments.
Yes, but he is not wrong on this one though. Since 2001 44,000 terrorist attacks have been carried out all in the name of one religion. Have any guesses on which one it was?
@@ronaldmcboggled9855 yeah oppression and us war mongering tend to do that. Ever asked yourself why latam/asian countries almost never get targeted by terrorists ? Because they are mostly peaceful nations on the global stage
@@zakariacherif8197you mean they are mostly docile countries nobody is afraid of on the world stage. That’s why they don’t mess with them. On top of that, the Asian countries treat their people terrible. Labor camps. Communism. Chopping limbs off….so spare everyone the peaceful BS. They just know they don’t have what it takes to make waves and back it up.
@@zakariacherif8197they have closed borders dumby
Tim Kennedy is insane
Tim is spreading Zionist propaganda.
He said if Hamas goes away, there will be peace.
Does this idiot know Hamas was created only back in 1987.
Palestinians have been getting expelled from their land for 75 years.
Why cuz he’s not pro terrorist?
@@punkmeathead3792truth hurt my friend, and you know the truth. Killing 3000 children in 20 days is not enough for you to sympathise with Them ?
@@punkmeathead3792he literally is pro terrorist here lol
Tim has a Marvel movie level understanding of world conflict. Remember the USS Liberty.
Palestinians were subjects of ottomans, British, romans, Egypt, Persians, Greeks .they never owned anything. However jews ruling isreal with jew kings is a historical fact
Pepperidge Farms remembers!!!
So because of the USS liberty mistake Israel was at war then. Israel never started a war all it war was brought up by the enemy
He's talking about Israel vs Palestine. Not some one off incident that didn't even leave to a full scale conflict. Nice try tho
@arighteousname5882 i used to trust this guy until he showed what he trully is.
“If all of hamas just went away, we would have peace”
Let’s imagine a magical world like that, let’s even give it a name.
It’s called the West Bank.
Spot on. This Tim guy is a complete clown
Who the he!! Is Tim Kennedy?
Yeah.. west bank is being invaded by settlers.. houses stolen …i just hope truly westbank is safe..
the thread of radical islam runs thru gaza, west bank, jordan, into iran, iraq, most of middle east, and please look up islamic jihad in africa, eg. nigeria ... jews dont have any record of terrorism outside Israel (Im only including Israel because Im giving the anti-Israel argument the benefit of the doubt ...
If you take away the weapons from Hamas, there'd be no wars. If you take the weapons away from the Jews there'd be no Israel.
Wow I can’t believe how brainwashed people can be , strange time when evil try to be the victim
Seriously! For people to pretend hamas are freedom fighters, it is absurd. If native Americans killed 50,000 Americans (ratio for Israel to USA population) and then hid behind their civilians, the native americans would not be looked at as the victims when the americans responded. Now with Israelis, The Jews were living in that land before the Muslim religion was even created so you cannot even compare Palestinians to native americans, because Palestinains are not native to that land,.
You are so deeply missleaded for saying that, if you consider israel as the evil and not hammas
100%. People believing Hamas' victimhood narrative for Palestinians even AFTER seeing the videos of their ISIS-style massacre... Very strange times
If it isn’t the pot calling the kettle black😂😂
An occupier is an oppressor, normally deemed to be an evil thing to do.... Crazy how the simple truth has been twisted
Nothing has been learned. How many innocent Palestinians of Gaza have been killed by bombings in this conflict? How many members of their family are still alive? You just created a generation or more of future enemies. The same thing happened in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's fascinating how so many people can be 100% sure of the truth in any given situation, and be ready to condemn millions, while so many on the opposite side are 100% sure of the truth in any given situation, and are likewise ready to condemn millions. We're living in 2 different worlds, 5 ft from each other.
Nuance is hard.
Which context would justify slaughtering over a thousand jews then? You'll be surprised but not everything in life is a gray area. There are unambiguous answers to some things in life.
What does elon musk say?
"Whose to say one persons misinformation is the truth"
Something like that. Im suprised he didnt call this guy out.
NO BALLS!
Nuance is dying and it’s a big loss
Problem only occurs when absolutely nobody in the mix has principles or integrity.
Don't know who the guy is but something tells me he's a big fan of bringing freedom in to the middle east.
How do you not know who Tim Kennedy is? He's a famous green beret from the army and ufc fighter
@@stevend481maybe he doesn’t pay attention to anything army or the UFC
@@stevend481it’s a b o t guys cmon
@@stevend481That explains his bias.
It’s not Americas jobs to bring peace to the Middle East. Our own house need work, but we’re worried about neighbors.
197 people were butchered in the West Bank from Jan 1 2023 to Oct 6 2023. No music festival, no Paragliding, No Hamas. Tim please explain
Exactly, Tim is just as delusional as Zelenksy.
@@imrabeenadeem2 He's just a grunt.
Easy. They were all terrorists.
what do you mean no hamas? there is quite a lot of hamas operatives in the west bank... probably more popular than the PLO...
@@yonatanran659 Your source: trust me bro.
Knows nothing about the subject
Tim has lost his mind 😂.
Unfortunately I think he know exactly what he is saying and why
That guy probably still believes that Iraq still have a mass destruction weapon. 😂
And also believing that America has won the Vietnam war.. 😂😂😂
Tim kennedy is massively uninformed
No you just support a backwards religion
@brumylee Israel has stolen land from the Palestinians for decades and outright attacked civilians ( in fact, just this year, Biden and our government condemned Israel for continuing to steal Palastinian land). The state of Israel was also founded on stolen land ( the whole area has been in dispute and changed hands many times over the centuries). I am not excusing Hamas in any way, but even the U.N. has declared the Israel / Palestine situation an Aparthied state. The Palestinians should have been a recognized state decades ago, and it is a fact that the state of Israel has treated them like animals. Hamas is a direct result of this situation. Israel has committed countless war crimes that have been submitted to the U.N. and in almost all cases, the only country to veto the charges was solely the USA. They have used our support and military equipment to perpetrate these crimes, and whatever crimes Israel commits, the U.S. is considered directly reaponsible by the Arab world; which I think very few people here realize.
This episode is giving "weapons of mass destruction" myth that tossed us into war where nothing was really accomplished
Nothing was accomplished? What do you mean? Money was printed and it accounted for the missing trillions that the Pentagon misplaced 😂 war = money.
It’s finally completed: th-cam.com/video/xDC7a0aiOC4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=s0z4AYqUPTY_L1oJ
The Vietnam war comes to mind
@@bGzzzzzI mean, if that was the goal from the get go instead of weapons of mass destruction, then we'd have a different expectation
@@sassycaterpillar6631 that was the goal - pentagon reported in their accounts that they do not know where 2.1 trillion dollars went then literally months later 9/11 happened and then US defense requested 2.1 trillion dollars in order to fight “terrorists” and search for WMD 🤷♂️ follow the money trail
You should interview someone who knows the history of the region
Like that Palestine was given their land by Israel, and then Hamas took it over like that history, or that like Palestine wasn’t even a region what history bites you talk about
@@jefftv9912Probably how Jews and western civilization are responsible for the current state of Palestinians and Islamic countries in general. That seems to be the only “truth” they’re willing to accept.
@@jefftv9912 You mean Hamas was voted in, and there were people living in British Mandated Palestine before an Israel existed?
@@jaymann5180Hamas was voted in, democratically in 2006.
And yeah, the British mandate known as Palestine which existed for precisely 27 years had Arabs and Jews (which were approx 15% of the population) people acting as if Jews were never there, they were always there. Not to mention the Arab Pogroms imposed on the Jewish demographic in the region - in Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed ( Tzfat), Tiberius, etc etc etc all done BEFORE the creation of Israel.
Like the leader of Hamas' son, who was on Piers Morgan the other day?
@7:25 😂😂😂😂 Yes, yes, you should have just stopped talking the rest of the interview for making such an idiotic point.
Mr. Rogan, for such a complicated conflict I urge you to bring some of the professionals who devoted a big part of their life persuading the truth, such as Abby Martins which she have been on your show talking about this conflict, you have also Dr Norman Finkelstein, Dr. Gabor Maté, James Schneider who are all either holocaust survivors themself or decedents of holocaust's survivors.
This is literally what Tim does tho
@@devoncordora3319 So what Israeli is doing in the West Bank is Hamas fault too?! Look at the map of Palestine 1948 and now and tell me who is the aggressor?! Tim is delusional. Israeli is the occupation force.
Joe Rogan is disgusting. He claims he's all for honesty yet he's interviewing a dumbass who is promoting the genocide of Palestinians. History WILL remember that Joe.
Norman Finkelstein called him a flaming im be cile.
Exactly, we need more academic Jews to speak on this.
"When peaceful revolution is made impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable."
Thats the main point you are missing Timmy boi.
Revolution against what exactly?
Tim's not missing the point at all. If you know the history of this issue, you cannot argue that point.
does violent revolution refer to innocents being killed that's some idiocracy to support your terrorism?
@@levin1374Hamas isn’t the start of the conflict, it’s an outcome of one. Think man just think and learn that’s all. I have 0 reasons to be support of Palestinians but I am. They’re literally the new South Africa, an offspring of colonial days literally.
Absolutely... When Rogans guest said that every conflict was not initiated by Israel i spat my coffee out ! BS ! The King david hotel Massacre? is a prime example of cutting his decemination of propaganda out !
Not gunna trust Tim when he literally says he’s gunna do whatever the army tells him with no questions asked. Meaning he doesn’t care if it’s wrong or right. 😂
Same thing the nazis said
Hamas is doing the same thing arent they? And the taliban? And every other army? Lol
@@michaelshawusa1 you're saying US Army is same as a terrorist org ?? 🤣
@@ganggang3788 Contrary to popular belief, you would be SHOCKED at just how much of the world does consider the US military a type of terrorist organization.
That's called loyalty and duty to your home and country but you've probably never even heard of the concepts.
This is what u get when u get your info from the government.
Yep just like: China this, China that. They want to take over, bla bla.. We need to protect our businesses. Meanwhile Apple is still making almost everything China.
This was hard to listen to. Tim is maybe the most clueless guest Joe's had on all year. This guy is a clown that doesn't know wtf he's talking about.
Lmao, imagine thinking you're smarter/ morally superior because you believe Hamas instead.
@@Bushido_Brown.so thats your only options. You either believe the government, or you believe Hamas? That sounds like something George Bush said before the invasion of Iraq.
congrats brother you have no higher thoughts
Normally Joe is interested in history. I would be more happy if he had brought up the map of the region and discussed the changes throughout the time.
interesting
Joe's a douchebag because he won't even put Marian Williamson on....bald puppet
THAT part of this "history lesson" was conveniently left out... hmmm
All the changes brought about because the Arabs would not let the Jews live in peace in the land allocated to them. They attacked and got their a** kicked every time and lost territory. To the victor go the spoils
It’s his buddy Joe doesn’t want to call him out gives him a free pass just like his cia propaganda pal Baker and his chemical weapons lies in Syria or how Bibi the terrorist and the USA created Hamas to counter the PLO and stop the progress of establishing a Palestinian State
Joe Please bring someone who is actually knowledgeable and independent.
This guy is making my blood boil with his OUTRAGEOUSKY ignorant comments.
“It’s a good question.” Rogan played that extremely carefully 😂
It’s finally completed: th-cam.com/video/xDC7a0aiOC4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=s0z4AYqUPTY_L1oJ
He was lost…
Indeed.
ISREAL WANTS THE LAND BABY 😅
@@tot2600hrshe was well aware of the fence he had to walk....
The fact that he says he has absolutely no say in anything, he just does what the military tells him to do shows what kind of person he really is and his morals. Just a battle robot who drank the koolaid
Do you know what the military is? You are not allowed to not follow orders.
@@jayAh635following orders is not a valid defense to commit war crimes
@@jayAh635thats bs anyone can choose to not follow orders if they know what they’re doing is wrong. That’s when you say fuck this I’m out and tear your flag off your sleeve and leave it at the door on your way out
Then you obvioulsy know nothing about Tim and all the good he has done.
@@tylermanley5262yes, we can see the good he’s doing on this show by manipulating the viewers
Yeah I hate when the inmates act up too, Tim
Zero. Thank you for asking.
English please ? @@b_uppy
@@kaiser234
Back at you.
@@b_uppy and right back at ya
@@murdercide4967
How about noticing the original comment was changed?
They just can’t stand the fact that we aren’t biting at the bait anymore
💯THIS
Exactly, shit used to be so easy for them to control the narrative before social media lmao
💯
THIS!!!!
Unfortunately, Tim has the bait and the hook in his mouth and won't take it out. He's deluded.
Bro said Israel has never initiated an attack with a straight face💀💀💀💀
This is insane, but I'm not surprised all he know what the media showed him. Everyone knows that Americans have no clue about anything except stereotypes fed to them by Hollywood and the US media
What ceasefire has israel broken? Every ceasefire brokered since the abandonment of the gaza strip in 2005 was broken by the same side.
@@BillGilbertN7 someone is ignorant of history
@@jackdren9974 how about instead of being condescending, you would enlighten me with your oh so vast knowledge.
Unless you don't actually have any 🤔
And also said if there was no Hamas there would be peace. Yeah, tell that to those in the West Bank 🤦🏽♂️
If you tell a lie long enough, you will start believing it.
their target audience is the buyer of those lies. I'm sure they themselves know the truth but turn it inside out for political and monetary gains.
Or, just maybe... its the truth :)@@Rose_333_Buds
Hammas and islamic propaganda all over the comment section. Exactly what values promoted on JRE appeals to you? 😂
Dear Joe! In this subject we strongly recomend that you link up wit Dr. Gabor Maté. The man have good information that can empower people from both sides and also remember some about the history of this war. We are counting on you as you have the biggest platform in this planet. Big up from Africa. 💪
We need Ryan Dawson/Scott Ritter and Adam Green!!! This wud be a banger, but Joe wud never
or Norman Fickelstein
It’s finally completed: th-cam.com/video/xDC7a0aiOC4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=s0z4AYqUPTY_L1oJ
And while he's at it, he could also invite Dr. Gabor Maté's son, Aaron Maté, who is a brilliant (real) journalist working for the Grayzone.
The US should stop getting involved in these foreign conflicts and focus on securing our border.
you don't understand how the world economy works clearly
Isn't it funny how the media talks about how racist Americans are for wanting border security but yet Israel literally has a militarised border and that's okay.
Hypocrisy because those who own and control the media want to different agendas for both nations.
You are correct sir! If anything, we need to stay out of everyone else’s business… let Israel handle this.
We’re deeply involved in most world conflicts. As are China, and Russia, and Iran, and Saudi Arabia… it’s all interconnected.
Nah they love a porous border. Thats what keeps crime up and the police and prison state thriving. 😅
when he said israel has never initiated conflict my brain stopped and died
Don't despair. Educate yourself and restart your brain. Hope springs eternal.
you were already born braindead, don't despair.
This guy needs to be fact checked smh
yeah bro fact check it with CNN mannnnn
@@rylandpeters8982 yeah bruh... fact check it with Joe Rogan. Maybe Elon? 🙄
He knows so much more than you that it is almost comical to compare.
@@TheHound402 show me on your Joe Rogan blow-up doll where CNN hurt you?
lmao that means he is right....@@TheHound402
There's something seriously wrong with Tim Kennedy
covid....
Come on Joe you've been always a fair and honest guy why don't you get someone to have balanced and healthy discussion
he did when dave smith was on telling falsehoods as facts
You want a pro Palestinian on the show 😂
Thanks Joe Rogan To show People to see the Truth 😢there are babies Man Who Dies Got Butchered Every single Hour Imagine If Would Have Born there and Our Dead body on Ground due to some Hatred Occupation 😢:/
If they never attacked how did they get the palestinians to move out? Honest question.
Exactly. Hamas was only set up in 1987 in response to the annexing of land and killing of civilians since 1948 but people actually believe this BS that Israel are just victims.
Are you asking about in 1948?
Arab nations attacked Israel in 6 day war and Yom Kippur war… Arab nations engaged and lost and Israel gained more territory in the region You can look at maps of territory 1948 then1967 then 1973
be quite if you dont know the history lol what you just said shows pure lack of knowledge
@@stephenstauffer5048 Yes, but what about the stern gang and other operatives who were charged with clearing the land of people to make it ready for Jewish settlers. 'a land without people for a people without land'. Indeed.
Tim talking about launching unprovoked attacks into a sovereign nation lols
To a hammer everything is a nail. Don’t know what Rogan expected to learn from Tim Kennedy.
Tim is a classic war propaganda perpetuator from the old guard of the military industrial complex, of course he supports Israel
Guys like you dont know what youre talking about.
You are in truth denial
why is this guy Tim even speaking. Just seems dumb and reckless to have someone sooo not credible on like this.
Joe was the oldest paper boy ever
😂😂😂
And now he's a billionaire
Now there are people in their 60s delivering papers.
In the 90s grown adults would deliver most of the papers. It was good money for not that much time invested.
Funny guy 😂😂😂😂😂😂❤
Tim Kennedy strikes me as both someone who could kill me with his bare hands but is also that kid on the playground who claims to have a blackbelt in everything.
Yes, he is totally ignorant to the Israel conflict
Which is scary considering his background.@@realdata8624
@@realdata8624what was he ignorant about?
Please provide dates,numbers and geopolitical context that contradict what he said, or don't bother answering me.
@@realdata8624 Enlighten us
No, he’s one of those people who think he understands what an ambush is, but wouldn’t know it until the brutal end in the last moment
Would be interesting to have Tim Kennedy in a debate on Joe Rogan
With himself. He is the only one that can out dumb him
Forcing hundreds of thousands of people to leave land they have lived in for hundreds of years is not Justice.
There were millions of people moving around at those years as borders of new countries were defined. Your tunnel vision and lack of geopolical context is not doing anyone justice believe me.
@@SesameMilk 👉🏾🤡
@@mliler1405wow great argument you really proved him wrong😂 if you’re too dumb to make an argument don’t try to put others down.
That's literally the history of the world guy. Everyone is living on land that someone else was living on and made to leave. Big bank take lil bank. Life ain't fair. Carry a bigger stick. Till then stfu and get off my land
You’re right that’s why Israel declared they are at war! It’s like we have forgotten what that words means just like man or woman!