NASA facing a crisis far worse than SLS or Starliner, and it endangers SpaceX too!
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- A report recently came out, describing a very serious problem developing at NASA.
It's insidious, it isn't easy to fix, and it threatens SpaceX as well!
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The US indoctrination system is total garbage. It started with No Child Left Behind where schools just started passing students to the next grade that weren't performing at grade level, this disincentivized both students and teachers. Then common core was introduced and it has been a complete failure. I'm seeing high-school graduates that can read at what would have been a 3rd grade level 40 years ago, and can't do 2nd grade level addition and subtraction. This combined with DEI and the removal of music programs and trades/home economics has produced a generation that is largely incompetent.The DOE has utterly failed and needs to be abolished.
Well the people in charged wanted a bigger omelette, to make a bigger omelette you scramble the eggs and add ingredants. We be the eggs. 🙃
Hello Donald! Did you forget to take your pill again ?
Sadly, in the US, we place more value as a society on entertainers and so-called influencers than engineers and scientists.
@ColdWarSubSailor_- then do something to better it. I've done my part for science, engineering, and technology. Be part of the solution, change the world.🤔
Been there. Done that. Got the layoff notice.
We need a National Entertainers and Influencers Administration. It’s the only way to guarantee real progress and innovation in entertainment.
@Tinman_56 WELL THEN!!!! let me clap my hands together for you sir😔🏴☠️
A few years ago, the U.S. hired a reality TV "host" as the 45th president. What a bunch of fools the country has become. 🤣
The dumbing down of america has had a devastating effect on the space endeavors. As well as American society.
Any time a politician wants to defund public education to put money in the pockets of private educators, they are stealing from the future.
We've gone from teaching Latin and Greek in high school to teaching remedial English in college.
Here's the thing. Most, if not all politicians care nothing for space as it won't get them re-elected. China, for all its advances, only sees space for its military applications and international manhood-measuring. Private endeavors such as SpaceX are the only organizations that are going to actually get real people into space to stay. I'm glad that the government and its military are funding a lot of the developments. That said, most of us space enthusiasts want to see eventual colonization of the solar system. Why would any government want to spend billions to spawn new colonies that will eventually demand political independence?
Why? In the hope they get more back than whats invested, before colony goes independent. There's megatons of resources to grab. The Moon is key to space industry, bc of the small gravity well, and Mars is key to the AsteroidBelt.
It may look too early for a space colony now, but the privat sector already has its own dynamic, so it is now time to at least think about the implications. I do not wish to see a society being run by a business corporation;• leaving behind whoever does not benefit the shareholders....
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China is in space for way more than the manhood measuring. Their insane moonbaseplans show that they are definitely looking at the potential. Our government is a threat to humanity at the moment, let's face it
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Governments don't do that. They don't have a profit motive.
Time & again space science & engineering have led to remarkable improvements in the quality of life here on earth. Alas, we’re getting more and more short sighted.
You mean like repeating that trope?
Don't tell me about what your grandfather did, justify what you're doing.
Maybe you haven't noticed but you've been getting a lot of money. It keeps disappearing into black holes.
Maybe I'll use smart folks should figure out where those black holes are and do something about it.
The academic astronomers are too busy. complaining about starlink (a problem a child can solve in software, just download the standard library that does that), instead of taking advantage of the plummeting cost to orbit and expanding capability. Spacex is going to be ready way before any of you are.
_A quick advert for engineering..._
It teaches logical thinking; showing how complex problems can be broken down into manageable steps.
Solutions have to be realistic / practical; esp. since it's probably you who'll have to implement them.
Plus lots of technical stuff that usually proves useful.
Basically, it prepares you for life and opens up a wide variety of career paths - often non-engineering, but using the same skillsets.
So true. I ended up leaving engineering due to terrible management but the skills I learned there made me an outstanding service technician for the same equipment I used to design.
Ever try to talk to a hottie about engineering at a frat party?
@@robertanderson5092 That's *another* reasons why we need more women engineers... 😉😘
Everyone needs to contact their congressman and tell them we want a bigger budget for NASA!!!
Politicians are the greatest threat
Place ignorance on top of that.
Anyone telling you that Adolph Hitler is a great guy is the bad guy.
It's been true since the 1930's.
On the other hand, Politicians can be the hero...
I like to imagine if nasa had the DoD/pentagon budget.
Why in the hell should NASA "get involved" to help one company out when Boeing received more tax money to accomplish a task than SpaceX which actually can take things to the ISS? So Boeing is struggling in space and the airplane business. It is not the taxpayer's responsibility to hire "qualified people at NASA" to help level the tech gap. Last I looked SpaceX put most of their patents out free for use. I'm tired of hearing about poor Boeing, they drove the company off a cliff on their own.
Funding doesn't matter if the space economy crosses the threshold into profitablity.... Reliance on profit is far better then reliance on funding
Pitting a profit motive into NASA or any public services for that matter is the dumbest thing ... that's why European Nation flourished where the USofA crumbled, importing this "Americanisation" was Europes downfall.
Only answer is GTFO.
Yeah, maybe in 200 years that could happen in some unforeseeable way.
Last I checked we are $36 trillion in debt. There's no money left.
Hi, I am new to this, but in debt to who? Other countries?
The debt is fictitious and imaginary.
The role of NASA as an inspiration to young people to pursue STEM fields is incalculable but probably added a few points to US GDP growth over the decades.
So much more than a few points. The foundation of the modern world was laid during Apollo- when the US Government spent MANY times more what they're spending on SLS.
Back before most of us were born, the US Presidents Eisenhower and JFK wanted to direct money away from the military industrial complex and into a new class of corporations focused on space exploration. A prime consideration for this was the "undue influence" being obtained by the MIC as Eisenhower revealed in his farewell address to the nation but they also wanted the US to lead the world in high technology. JFK refused to enter Vietnam and kept a huge amount of money going into space travel. As soon as he was killed, the military took over and the US immediately jumped into Vietnam and all space funding was rapidly diverted back to the military industrial complex. This is all publicly available information. The MIC doesn't care about space because most of that money goes to non-military contractors like SpaceX and non-military divisions of corporations like Boeing.
The MIC also benefits rocketry, its critical that it be maintained. Nuclear war won't push anyone's agenda forward. Corrupt acquisitions due to corrupt pork projects need to go. The Ukraine ware showed us what could happen if the MIC is left to rot. (We couldn't even supply artillery shells for a protracted war.
there was a film about that indicating people with a interest in the arms industry wanted JFK gone and his brother...
So delighted to hear your daughter is an Engineer, and post-grad too! I'm also a qualified engineer and my graduate year, I would say only 15% were women.
Shortly I will visit a young female friend who is graduating at the Honours degree level in Engineering Design in December. She switched from Fashion Design after one year.
Kids used to aspire to be scientists, engineers, doctors and so on but because of social media, now kids just want to be TikTok and TH-cam stars.
The entire society needs to change if we wanna get the science industry back
They still do but the US has many private R&D tech companies.
Luckily I was able to retire as a military defense engineer years ago without extreme burnout and watch the action from the port's restaurants as lift off occurs and Elon's rockets come back on their recovery ship. A balanced work/home life needs to be maintained free from extreme work schedules.
and giving billionaires like Musk all the power isn't going to help that home/work life balance.
@@GuntherRommel Nothing was 'given'. Musk earned his wealth in the free market, and grew rich in direct proportion to his abilities by trading value for value. If anything, inventors are undervalued in contemporary culture.
I totally agree that there is no forward motivation on the planet to get more young people involved with the space endavor!
After all of us kids watching so intently in the 60's, I have noticed the young today just do not care about it today. "What good is it?" , has been a remark I have gotten often. I tell them about how they wouldn't have their phones, computers, modern materials, and so much more. And they would lose out on future developments. Then add mining materials for earth usage, low gravity manufacturing, and so much more. They still don't care. The desire to move forward into the next fountier has seemed to come to an end.
New or young people aren't allowed or welcome to work in the space industry. That's why there is no motivation or interest - it isn't allowed.
"Propellant" DOESN'T MEAN JUST FUEL. Fuel and oxidizer are BOTH propellants.
There are problems everywhere. Reaction Engines shutting down is a ridiculous step backwards for space exploration/industrialisation, not only for Britain itself, but for all human space endeavours.
I am still hoping for a last minute rescue deal. I hope at least one MP can put a emergency question to the government next week.
It's not just space, it's all across industry in the west. US is getting massive investment from Government but how that works in the longer term we'll see.
In the EU & UK it's more red tape, tax and big gov without the investment side.
Unfortunately we are going to have to rely on SpaceX for human exploration of space (except for China).
For now. They won't have access to endless talent either.
Many Universities push politics, along with subjects that align with said politics. Subjects that are the antithesis of STEM. The main issue is with the education system. This will take a long time to address, if it's even possible.
For every 100 people in usa that graduates college, China graduate over six times that number.
2 million (USA) to 11.5 million (China).
So, about China graduates about 4% more STEM graduates, on a per-capita basis, than the USA. And China can not yet land a booster reliably.
There’s also 2 billion people in China… compared to 320ish million
@@SLBBPboth those numbers are wrong. There’s approx 1.25billion in China and 340 million in the USA. I get your point though, but don’t forget that quality matters also.
@@jacobwinn2765 and even that 1.25B in China is suspected of being an over estimate by at least 100M
@@jacobwinn2765 Chinese engineers and designers are on average better than Americans right out of college. We have a lazy culture that's propped up by the economic security of our history, and standard of living. China will be chugging past us over the next decade. The public education system in America is ruining young people's minds.
NASAs doing just fine. If the report is arguing about NASAs institutional stability, its clear that it must evolve as well. The market forces that supported the new commercial alliance are the same forces that are burying Boeing and the good ol’ boy space providers.
Adapt or be left behind.
I'm an education journalist and have done many stories about STEM programs of all kinds. A lot of them use robotics and robotic competitions for students starting in elementary. Apple has a an app programing competition for students (mostly 9-12). The majority of STEM students, though, go into computer science, robotics, A.I.
That were they see the money. Aeronautics, all the money goes to the shareholders, not the engineers.
I was about to say the same thing, then saw your post. You are 100% correct. Computer engineering is seen to be a much easier path to take. Most sciences and other engineering (electrical, mechanical, chemical, and aerospace) take a lot of grounding in wide areas like math, physics, and chemistry. CE, on the other hand, can be done in a very focused way, and you need to be concerned about general sciences only if you are going to write applied programs for. Now, AI and robotics do take more (particularly the latter), but they have a "cool" factor that frankly space has trouble competing with.
It also doesn't help that tuition at top-notch engineering schools is in the stratosphere. When I went to undergrad school (albeit, in the 70s), my first year of tuition was under $4k, rising to I think about $5k when I finished. In inflation-corrected figures, that's around $25k now, which blows my mind... But my undergrad school now actually charges about $60k/yr, which is about 2.5x the rate of inflation. Think of it, get a 4 yrs BS, and be $240k in debt (which is how most people have to fund their education). I don't know what I'd do if I were in that position nowadays.
@@DavidKnowles0 SpaceX's significant advancement is with flight control software while it's weaker with Boeing.
The bottom line is that the US education system sucks. Too many people getting useless degrees in areas like anthroplogy, advertising, liberal arts, criminal justice, philosophy, law, etc. Highly idealistic fields that add little value to society. Too many kids these days spend time and money chasing degrees in fields that have no demand. And then they end up broke and can't change direction. They seem to be mentally lazy. Fields like engineering and aeronautics require a little bit of brain power. They don't seem to want to step up.
A Law degree is "useless" ...
Sure.
So instead of blaming the dumbass kids who don't know fuck all, why not FIX EDUCATION AT THE BOTTOM?
It is OUR FAULT they don't know anything, ffs. But we've hacked apart public education for the last fifty years. Who does that benefit?
Only the people who can afford to send their kids to better schools. This is a National Defense issue.
It's not that all of those fields are worthless, it's how they're being taught, or, what students are not encouraged to learn in them that is worthless, at best. In philosophy, f.i, non-reality based epistemologies are preferred by the majority of those who are teaching students today. Platonic and descendant philosophies which champion unreason are considered as valid as Aristotilian empiricism, if not more so (a contradiction in itself). Little if any thought is given to the historical truth that rejection of Platonic ideals for Aristotle's effectively ended the dark ages, ushering in the Enlightenment era.
For anyone who wishes to live in this universe, some type of philosophy is required to determine one's actions. If one isn't chosen consciously, an unconscious mixture of vaguely conceived and competing ideals will be absorbed from one's surroundings via osmosis, leading to the epistemological crisis facing the West today.
@@wiregold8930A law degree is useful for making lawyers money and getting criminals off the hook. US lawyers are one of the worst manifestations of a diseased society.
Anthropology is useless?? I'm sure any of those careers may think the same about space exploration. While they deal with everyday peoples problem nasa Is trying in vain to give china a lesson 😅 I do value space exploration but i think you should encourage a space related career instead of diminishing the others
Quantity doesn’t necessarily equate to quality.
Society in US doesn’t value STEM so minorities and women choose professions that ARE respected/deemed valuable; they aren’t blind to what will reward their efforts.
Back in the late 80’s/90’s all the women/minority STEM peers departed for management because it rewarded them at much higher rates, had better working hours and provided far more respect in their companies than STEM positions did.
This is easy to fix, get rid of all the DEI and the un-useful social degrees and course requirements for a stem degree. Back during Apollo era mechanics, welders, and trades persons were just as respected and the scientist and often worked together. Yes NASA needs more funding, but legacy companies need to trim the fat and not be so greedy at same time.
Congrats to your daughter on her collegiate achievement, and also, kudos for her initiative in her post-grad undertaking. 👏👍🚀
thanks to the people that have supported Space Thus far...and streamers that truly put their hearts into the future .. ❤
Nasa developed Krusty and DRACO is very important. I personally would love to get into space propulsion development but life has beaten me down. Nevermind our country doesn't have a forward vision for space. Once we have a lunar and Martian outpost it would spur innovation.
NASA was simply cut too close to the bone in the 1970s. After achieving Apollo, it was gutted and cut to 0.5%, only 1/2 a penny out of each bloated federal dollar in the budget. This was far too much. Given all we ask NASA to do, they deserve, indeed we all need to DEMAND, they get 1 full percent, minimum. Yes, NASA needs better oversight, ironically by someone like the deceased James Webb, who brought Apollo in under budget and on time. Regardless of your political leanings it is beyond frustrating that we have blown over $80 BILLION in corrupt Ukraine, in just the last three years, with very little oversight or accountability. That's money that could have been better spent elsewhere, including on NASA. To put that into perspective, it is about the same money the U.S. has spent on the ISS over its entire long history since 1998.
Yes. Nixon destroyed NASA, and the USA's foothold in space was set back decades. I disagree with the whole Ukraine thing, because even if they ARE corrupt as hell, they're still better than the Soviet Union reforming.
While China focuses on *Science & Technology,* the USA is mired in *gender identity & DEI politics.*
Only in your mind. Seriously. Log off. 😂🤡
@@imtired1696he ain't wong tho
That is exactly the problem. China will win, not only in Space, but all industries. China refuses to get woke, the West doubles down on it.
I think you misindentified which side of the aisle the authoritarian kakistocracy is coming from. Dude, Project 2025 explicitly calls for abolishing the Department of Education!
China is a one party dictatorship, so they don't have to focus on dividing and conquering their population. Once america is a one party hellscape maybe they can focus more on doing something other than pitting their people against each other with frivolous arguments.
That is changing though. Recent trends suggest that more kids are opting for STEM degrees and even getting into trades and liberal arts degrees are seeing a decline. This is great news. The issue comes with government agencies like NASA not being able to compete with private industry salaries and benefits leading talent to go into the private sector. Just look at how fast Blue origin, SpaceX, rocket lab jobs and internship opening get filled. NASA can’t compete with that. US universities are graduating more engineers than ever though there is a significant increase in the number of international students in that area and also a lot of students preferring to go into the tech, consultancy or engineering services sector instead of the more hardware and manufacturing side of things. The key is to incentivize better paying jobs. The system will fix itself. There is no shortage of talent if the right incentive is provided.
NASA was needed in the early days when there was not enough justification for private space funding, but with a glut of commercial launch companies, most of what NASA has been doing can be done better, faster, and cheaper by private companies.
Now, there may be justification for the very long-term deep space missions (it's hard for a commercial company to fund multi decade long funding, such as Voyager)
But they are well behind the leading edge in terms of simple technology, and a lot of their instatutional knowledge is out of date and as much a drag on the industry as a help.
We need to clean up NASA and get them out of the launch business (at least) and have them figure out how to do project close to on-time and on-budget, having projects end up spending many times their budget can occasionally happen when doing leading edge development, but that's not what NASA is doing any longer.
We spend more on pizza every year in the U.S. than NASA gets in it’s budget. 2023 NASA budget 25.4 billion; 2023 Americans spent $41.3 billion on pizza. I guess NASA should go into the pizza business.
Wait, our taxpayer dollars are being spent on pizza for the entire country? Where does one sign up?
The graphics of Saturn V is wrong in terms of engines it had five engines on the 2nd stage not four.
First, let me mention that as a US citizen, my own observations reflect what I see here in the US, and I understand that some things may be different in other parts of the world.
One of society’s greatest challenges, is the average person’s propensity toward laziness. Everyone loves the conveniences, comforts and advantages brought to society through scientific discovery and technological advancement… but most, want to simply rely on “others” to do all of the work that this requires. Not only the work of building and producing, but even the work of learning and understanding.
Half of the people in this country, can’t even name the capitol city of their own home state, let alone put in the effort to learn and understand any of the science behind anything that carries our society forward.
We are (generally speaking) content with being stupid… as long as someone else ensures that we can happily and comfortably continue to scroll and post.
On the topic of “investment”… the notion that “government” will make any of this happen, and do so at reasonable cost (without enormous waste)… is more of a “science fiction” than any of the mission/project ideas proposed.
Ultimately… humanity’s scientific advancement, and the exploration further into space… will be driven primarily, not by nations or their governments, but by independent business interests, and their profit motivations.
When businesses “discover” resources, or other potential sources for huge profits which can only be capitalized upon by reaching “off world locations”… you will begin to see the necessary investment into meeting the requirements for “making it happen”.
The era in which nations sought to be the leaders in such endeavors… is OVER.
I had no idea. . . thanks for the update.
Space X deserves 90% of the blame for wrecking Artemis. The necessity for up to 20 Launches of rockets to refuel a Single Starship to randevu with Orion and land in the moon is way over complicated.
Much respect and thank you for having the courage to say what you said especially at 13:03-14:22. We all know that's the real underlying issue. Every time I look at mission control from one of these launch providers, I'm excited for the people in the room who worked their tails off, but I'm also disappointed because there are hardly any women or people of color it's almost entirely white men.
Why would anyone who's not a white male want to go into engineering in this country when they know they'll face racism, sexism, and other barriers before they even get the chance to solve engineering problems?
They say the space program ended when the space shuttle ended I have never believed that BS.
Thank you for this NASA space budget + knowledge-worker system overview. This is the best i have seen online. Schools need creative win-win-win competition via combined local and space permaculture regeneration of life for living both here, the Moon, Mars, and even Cycling Oneil Stations. Regenerative Living System design principles create technology in complimentary harmonic mutual-support with all life instead of seeing life as a dead resource for consumption. All space colonies will require expertise in systems biology along with traditional STEM subjects. Our "anger about space" comes from business (as usual) plans, that remove our children's inspiration for a better future life. We all need the adventure of exploration and creative abundance that inspires us to realize more than our ancestors. The world seems churning between people playing "endgames" and those creating a future for our children. Diamantis X-Prizes are creative (win-win-win) competitions that chalanges us with "What If" inspiration, to create what none have done before, for the good of everybody! I want schools to be like that. So stay angry '& inspired' about space!
Specific impulse is exhaust velocity divided by the acceleration of gravity. That can be either exhaust velocity in meters per second divided by 9.8 or exhaust velocity in feet per second divided by 32.2. SPECIFIC IMPULSE IS NOT A MEASURE OF BURN TIME Burn time is set BY THE SIZE OF THE PROPELLANT TANKS. "Propellant" DOESN'T MEAN JUST FUEL. Fuel and oxidizer are BOTH propellants.
If the 'S' part did the same as the 'A' part of NASA, push the boundaries of technology to push 'out there' instead of competing with commercial companies in the Launch sector it would have more money to attract talent on exciting projects instead of repeating Apollo with Shuttle tech.
nAsa does compete with Boeing/LM/Northrop or United/Delta - but none of those companies would exist without the tech from nAsa.
naSa need to do the same, step back and dev new tech and support.
Time to lose the SLS.
NASA needs to keep the current or get higher than current budget level and then hire new top talent from 330M population US in place of the top guys who go and create commercial space that can do so much more for so much less money. This should be benefiting both NASA and private space and US as a whole. If schools can't output enough talent the ITAR-internal domain should be extended to the NATO allies, or at least the more reliable of them. That would at least double the talent pool without women and minorities suddenly exploding their interest to STEM.
The best and brightest talent have long left NASA, and left with overblown, overpaid bureaucrats !
Science and education are always the first victims of politicians; mainly because they have no idea what either means. This is not a problem unique to the US.
The aerospace companies are refusing to hire. So they chose not to have new employees. Their decision discourages students from waisting their time and money on related degrees.
Accidents can have a terrible impact on certain industries.
NASA must stay ahead of proposing new ways that they may seek private associations to achieve those goals while partially financially contributing to it.
Good commentary! Hopefully someone is paying attention. I'm surprised the US isn't turning out enough STEM graduates, with their range of good universities. You implied there's a rule they can't bring in foreign graduates? I imagined the US is a magnet for these.
As a way to make money from international students and not have to pay for expensive stem training of U.S citizens. The U.S is an importer of Stem graduates. However, some areas of work are quarantined from non U.S citizens for national security reasons.
Schooling is so expensive and future engineers are being drowned out cost and how society is influencing the youth.
Never thought about it this way before however now you have pointed it out it does seem a little concerning.
Is it possible to make a poll to see how many of the viewers who actually think we have been on the moon? 🙂
Until NASA can figure out how to efficiently use the current budget, I will NEVER be in favor of increasing that budget. The problem with government it they are not accountable for spending OUR money. I don't need them to make a profit or anything but time and time again we see them waste me and mismanage everything they touch
For N.A.S.A. to recruit and retain the best engineers they need to have a clear exciting vision, can do attitude and progress to inspire the best to want to be a part of.
Talent moving to private space companies ... that's a good thing for everyone. NASA can now focus more on Vision / Portfolio management instead of wasteful and slow Innovation and Implementation like in the past.
This is pretty much the only reason I'm hopeful China and India take us forward (sadly in China's case)
Unfortunately we all live in an aging society and the national debt is out of control. The engineers exist but when we reach the age of 63 we are unceremoniously retired. Companies expect that they can replace older experienced engineers with young folks with newer skills. The trouble with tgat is that there is too much competition..
The US space program has always been a political football as long as I can remember, I'm 73. All real motivation behind the program died after the US landed men on the moon to show its superiority to the Soviet Union. Politicians considered the race over and won and have since refused to fund NASA at reasonable levels to accomplish anything worthwhile in the manned program. The US has managed some accomplishments in the unmanned area though but even those are dwindling. Until the US can elect scientifically literate politicians don't expect decent funding for NASA or any other science endeavor.
Nasa needs an audit-far too many employees & some ridiculous red tape around some launches....
bottom line is that people in general are too lazy and corrupted by greed, seems to be completely in line with what i noticed in my personal life.
The Department Of Government Efficiency is NEEDED so the funding is freed up..If the correct result happens this week DOGE can be started and Elon is the person that can make this happen. Sadly it's not the vote that counts it's who counts the Votes and given the crappy system that some states in the USA use to "COUNT" the votes I fear that the result will be distorted and not just the USA but the Western World will be doomed.
NASA should stand alone. Quitting being so involved with Elon...
Most people don't understand or fail to recognize the importance of organizational culture and how even successful organizations tend to have negative cultural shifts over time. It's basically very difficult to create a highly capable and innovative organization and even harder to maintain that success over time. On top of it all, governmental buerocracy and politics tend to stagnate even the best teams. I think the best thing that NASA can do is focus on which missions are most important and to impress that importance to Congress, and the American people.
Check out Max Weber and the routinization of charisma.
@@williamhanna4823 Well that's part of the problem. We think of ourselves as rational, thinking, modern people but we operate on the same primitive social structures instead on facts, knowledge and performance.
Surely there must be some rocket scientists amongst those doctors and physicists streaming across the USA Southern border?
No one else but Elon Musk can revolutionize space travel and access to LEO and beyond!
How much does the back engineering programs of ET craft cost?
Humans are not going to Mars because it costs too much.
NASA stopped attracting people when they stopped pushing exploration. People were excited about going to the moon, and eagerly awaited seeing the first man on Mars. Unfortunately the politicians saw no point, and Wernher von Braun retired at 60 because his plan for a trip to Mars in the 1980's were going nowhere. As a kid I watched the Space Shuttle with great anticipation. I was looking forward to the day when they would finally announce that they were going to use it to haul building materials into orbit for a space station and an interplanetary starship. Instead they only ever launched it to low orbits for some satellites, and some pointless scientific busy work. My imagination that it would live up to the name never came true. It never went to anywhere like the name implied it would, but instead it went to the absolute nothingness of space and then back again. As pointless as a sunday drive. That's why I love Elon. He is the first person since von Braun to move humanity forward on the most exiting goal in history. The trip to Mars will do more to fill classrooms with propulsion engineering students than anything NASA has done in my life time.
Did the control group shut you up Angry?? No more UAP content?
He may have been paid a visit by someone from a three letter agency.
Shame on you write with respect fore angry i the future!
@@michaelhammar2778 wtf?
@@jimmyzhao2673 poor Angry, we know he is passionate about the topic
There isnt much new news right now. He might be waiting for the uap hearings to talk about it again
Starship is a big mistake!
The US debt is probably not going to allow a huge investment in the actual settlement of the Moon or Mars. The largest part of the investment will more than likely require
Corporate investment once the tech is in place.
NASA is dying off as a significant figure. At some point it will just be an administrative arm, similar to the FAA. The FAA doesn't sponsor flights nor aircraft production. The private sector drives it. Same for space, private sector should be 100% in charge of what is designed/built and also the flights. Sould be driven by commercial demand, not forced by administrative edict.
Well then, what was the purpose of the Artemis Accords? No funding coming in from NASA partners? If no funding coming in This tends to remind me of the Climate Change Accords. Evidently NASA has signed contracts with it partners that are similar to its contracts with Boeing.
Those accords and partnerships with other countries isn't for funding, it usually for mission hardware components, often design to expand their own countries expertise. Esa is providing stuff like European Service Module (ESM) for the moon mission.
Tastefully educated today, I remember why I like this program
Idk how Elon is doing on the white collar side but from what I've seen they're offering welders laughable pay. Dudes are making way more welding pipe. If the pay goes up then perhaps these difficult specialized fields would attract more interest
Yes. Elon has absolutely terrible worker relations, in addition to all the other problems. He will gut all of our worker protections, and drive our standard of living into the basement.
It's concerning to hear about challenges at NASA; I explore similar cosmic themes and challenges in "The Universe Episodes" if you're interested in a broader perspective.
Create a program that send middle and high schoolers to LEO and Lunar orbits. Have schools created for expansion into space.
Q: When will Artemis 2 fly ?? and go out there ?? when ? every damn year it is delayed for a year.
As a political organization nasa has to make sure that contracts all are in as many key districts as possible. This leads to huge waste and paralysis. That has to change. Also it’s love of Boeing is very off putting as the Boeing cost plus contract on Sls is an invitation to overcoats and going nowhere
there is no excuse for starliner being in the mess it is. Boeing isn't some struggling startup. They have built everything from the B-17 to the Saturn 5 components, and have long ties to advancements to space hardware. They have the resources and knowledge to do better, but have become profit oriented over safety and product quality. To blame nasa for it's problems just doesn't make sense. Like saying ford couldn't build a more efficient car because BP pulled it's funding.
Boeing has always been profit oriented. They just don't strive for excellence anymore. That seems to be a standard thing across the board. Everywhere you look, striving for excellence is gone. People don't try as much anymore. They think good enough and just barely meet goals is alright.
People used to work for profit but also had pride in what they did and doing their best.
Companies used to have profit at the top of the list, but still wanted to be the best.
Now people are lazy and just want to be popular without any work.
Companies only worry about their profit and write off being the best.
Boeing has recently disbanded its DEI department to focus on a 'merit-based performance system'.
DEI and favoritism already destroying NASA
I've heard Angry misunderstand the meaning of fairing, misunderstand specific impulse, and misunderstand the meaning of propellant.
The voters have other priorities.
I wish this guy would get it through his head that there is no clean clear path to the moons surface. The shattered remnants of a glass dome are denser in some areas while other areas it is so deteriorated it has the density of spider webs. I can't see why this guy is so afraid to talk to Hoalgand or Joseph Farrell.
Tell us more about the secret space plane X-37B.
NASA’s problem is that it’s cool to launch stuff, but not to run them day to day once they are in orbit etc.
So James Webb (for example)… super cool, but the day to day running, boring (as far as the politics folk are concerned).
Many countries like China have free college tuition, but you have to compete for the spot against other students. If they need X graduates they have 2X spots open assuming half will fall behind in grades in these highly competitive degrees and choose another career.
Human engineers and scientists are likely to be second rate at best soon. China is probably allocating it's resources at least as inefficiently as the US is.
A.I. IS BULLSHIT
But it isn't China makes a ten year plan for space they stick to it, in the US you can 2.5 administrations with 3 different plans for NASA in the same time period. Not NASA fault, they stuck with a political system not design to make long term decisions.
SPECIFIC IMPULSE IS EXHAUST VELOCITY DIVIDED BY THE ACCELERATION OF GRAVITY
Wait and see, with a new president! Another NASA administrator may well be and, hopefully bring some new wind along!
The majority of these issues boil down to the current state of American and western culture as a whole. Space X has done A LOT in a relatively short time on a smaller budget than NASA. Clearly there were steps that could've been taken but weren't which just shines a bright light of effeciency issues within NASA as a whole. More money will help, but it'll only go so far if the underlying issues aren't fixed as well.
The idea that one of the problems to overall manpower is a lack of women and "minorities" in the field is another issue that stems from the cultural issues. It's one thing to be aware of this, but it's another entirely to say we NEED to get more women and minorities into the field instead of just saying we should get as many passionate and motivated competent individuals as possible regardless of sex or skin color. I personally don't care what sex or "race" you are as long as you're competent and ideally a good person with good intentions. The right people for the job matters far far more than what's between their legs or what color their skin is.
As for the overall amount of stem field individuals entering the field I think anyone who's gone to school in the last 20+ years know full well that basic education is corrupted and plagued with the same cancerous crap currently in politics and the day to day culture AND colleges appear to pretty much be indoctination camps for the unaware.
If you want the problems you listed to be fixed in way that doesn't end horribly it will likely require actions that I believe you'd likely oppose based on what I've seen regarding you're political views. For instance, eliminating dei and affirmitive action as both concepts are firmly rooted in devisive racism that wrongly paints a certain white looking group as oppressors to be suppressed and a certain dark skinned group as "incompetent victims" that need help cause they obviously can't fairly compete with those darn "oppressors". Divisive and racist solutions don't fix racism nor do they unify the very people it's drawing lines between. When need to fix our divisive culture with a sense of unity not born of such divisive concepts and much of this will improve on it's own and that's just one part. If we could really unify and purge the corruption we've become so accustomed to in our culture and government we'd likely see a massive boost to the field of space exploration unlike anything the world has ever seen, but that's just a fanciful ideal at the moment. I lack the confidence in our species to believe we can/will do that.
american politicians dont really take space seriously.
Well reported!
A ROCKET DOESN'T "USE UP" SPECIFIC IMPULSE DURING THE BURN
Do you know anything about Elon Musk acquiring Boeing?
Has the USA lost it's way?
I wonder what Harris would do? Blame Trump. Vance, and Elon. That makes me angry.