Women, have this in mind; YOU CAN NEVER “PRAY” THE EVIL AWAY. If someone has done something bad, be wary of them and have in mind you’ll never change anyone
Indeed.I say the same. Women always believe that a jerke can change because of their love. If he killed some woman before, believe me, he can kill you. Someday she believed he was a good guy just like you do now.
This is 100% Fact maybe 1% Might I say Might Change if you are lucky! I have Never seen a Man Change I Could give Plenty of Metaphors but I think this would be accurate as you are going to find! Woman Please listen a man if he has killed his Women he Will do it again! Stay away
@Star God bless you! I never mentioned forgiveness! Forgiveness and consequences for actions have nothing to do with one another. I'm sorry for whatever it is that has made you so angry. Have a blessed day!
Reminds me of the case of a guy who killed his pregnant wife, then was helped to get out of prison by a preacher who let his own daughter marry this guy.…who then ended up killing his new wife/preachers daughter and the children they had together (and the children she had from a previous marriage) …guys, stop contacting murderers and criminals in prison, they are there for a reason and should stay there. And don’t give them a “second chance” to kill another woman!
@@rubytuesday5412 Gregory Green murdered his pregnant wife and the pastor got him paroled. Green then married his daughter. He tied her in a chair and killed her two kids in front of her. He stabbed and shot her but she lived. He killed their two daughters with carbon monoxide. She chose to put her kids in that situation when they had no choice, and then had two more kids with a murderer. So that's what happens.
He died 2 months into sentencing… who knows if her body would have ever been found had the private investigator not been so persistent in gaining his trust. And for that to have been her first real experience working a case is amazing.
My friend did missionary work in prison and fell in love with a convicted killer. She helped him with parole and they got married and after few years he killed her. Chilling!!!
My ex step dad tried to kill most of his ex wives, met a pastor in prison and shes married to him now 🙄 I'm not about to hold my breath on how that one will end
It’s hard enough to trust a person who never murdered anyone but to get with one who did is beyond me. 🙏🏻😌 I understand some people think a person can change but it’s normally never the case.
I agree to me there in freedom now but dead inside there soul theres a beast waiting for the urge to kill I would never be with a murder ,it would be like Getting involved with a sick pedofile
Worse part was she actually Knew he was a murderer as oppose to getting deceived about his past. And It's not like he had dashing good looks either! 🤦🏻♀️
Well, I suppose it would really depend on what the type of murder conviction the person was convicted of, such as, was it 1st Degree Premeditated Murder, 2nd Degree Murder, Voluntary/Involuntary Manslaughter, etc. AND just as(if not more)importantly WHO the victim was. If that person killed someone trying to defend themself or someone they love, that wouldn’t be a bad thing or a cause to tuck tail and run.
Marie is an absolute icon. Really inspires me to pursue my own interest in becoming a private investigator. She was committed and did her due diligence to find Louise and get her killer put back behind bars. What an absolutely powerful woman.
criminals are people like you and me. They show you what they want you to see, their charming side, not their agressive or manipulative side, until they have formed a bond with you.
I thought it was idiotic and I thought it was outrageous for these inept cops to let this old woman (relatively speaking) go wandering off into the woods with a convicted psychopath, - while they "follow her" with a car (!) and lose her. She seems like a loose cannon herself. You don't climb into the cage with the lion.
I covered crime for 16 years of my life. And I can assure you that the chance of a killer to commit another homicide is high. From all the killers I interviewed, more than 80% of them killed again once released from jail and then, they confessed to me: "I may kill again". I left the Press in 2004. I saw too much and I witnessed enough. Nobody should ever do what this woman used to. You can only understand evil after living for many years inside it and I lived Hell from Sunday to Sunday and I know demons exist, in this world and in the invisible one. Never ever do what she did, it costed her life.
Just to kiss someone on the surface doesn’t sound so awful daring and dedicated. But Marie going through that and putting herself in that situation for another human says so much about her. A real life super hero.
Um, I think we know what the moral of the story is. Not only did she date/trust a convicted killer, but she then tried to fix him (loaning large sums of money, etc). Just one of those would have been bad enough. She was way too smart/talented to make such stupid choices. Women, stop settling for garbage. Learn to love yourself FIRST, which will obliterate the desperation, and eliminate the settling thing. Learn to love/appreciate/respect yourself so much that you could still greatly enjoy your life even without a partner. Only then will you more likely attract someone worth having as a partner. But you have to be good with not having one FIRST.
70% of women are desperate for love and will settle for any male, especially ones that are 'dangerous', 'exciting', the bad boy who gives them attention and tells them what they want to hear. Most women will believe anything simply because they are so desperate.
I believe she was being a martyr by 'rescuing' him. Unfortunately, she wasn't smart enough to understand that a man who murdered a woman & has been locked up for a long time, won't tolerate her being friends with an ex partner.
They want to trust because they're hopeful that they found the one murderer who won't reoffend. _...sometimes_ people do change. But yeah, psychopaths don't, at least afaik.
Because she wanted to be the one to redeem him… There is also an outrageous amount of women that search out prisoners to befriend and pursue for romantic relationships. Why? They think that they’ll be the one to save them. You can’t. They can save themselves if they want to. Meet a man outside of prison ladies.
You do realize that the Police are bound by guidelines that PI's aren't, the same goes for Bounty Hunters. If a BH sees the person they are chasing in a home for instance, they don't have to wait for a warrant, they an just kick in the door. All while the cops have to follow the guidelines before going in the home and that can take hours. The same goes for questioning folks, cops have to be real careful while PI's can ask or say whatever they want and if the "criminal" asks for an attorney, the PI doesn't have to stop questioning them. I really wish folks would learn that most of the time before cops can react, that's their job to react, they have to deal with all of the red tape. I'm not saying every cop does it the right way but those cops cases usually get tossed out of court because they skipped the process that actually hinders their job.
Just explained this in another comment. When these shows originally aired, they had commercial breaks. After the break, the shows always do a small recap to bring those who have missed the previous parts up to speed. When you remove the commercials, there's just recaps.
Imagine having this low of a level of self love and self preservation to KNOWINGLY deal with a murderer. I dated a guy that I found out had just an AGGRAVATED ASSAULT charge. I ran his background as SOON as I learned his full name. I left INSTANTLY once I found out. I would never ever KNOWINGLY date a violent man. Just sad that some people are so desperate for a relationship that they'll date anybody.
She sounds like she had a complex about "saving" this romantic figure of a guy. His being a murderer made him sympathetic and appealing and needy. Many women martyr themselves to needy-seeming men. She, as her friend said: "was a justice seeker". He was her one man mission.
@@gailjarvis2592 What an irony, isn't it. If Louise was a "justice seeker", why didn't she think about the poor woman he murdered, how devastating it must be for her family and friends. As if the life of that poor woman was not important just because she's a hooker.
@@glamsky3257 To be fair, I didn't hear that she said the lady's life didn't matter because she was a hooker. I'm not sure where that came from. It's much more likely that she was had googly eyes for this guy because she was codependent.
The whole purpose behind love got redefined and *conveniently rearranged by most. As it was never meant to be used and abused to achieve unbearable outcomes as such. If ones genuine Love was able to change someone that's broken, they would find Love and honor it. Verses someone having to actively extend themselves over and over and over and over and over again........ just so it could be used, tormented and abused.
Want to rescue someone and find true love? Go to the pound and adopt a dog or cat who’s on death row for no good reason. Don’t do the same with a human. It won’t work out well for you. If you marry/date a murderer, you’re basically dating/marrying a lion. That lion may cuddle with you, tolerate you, take food and attention from you, but one of these days it’s gonna take a swat at you and clamp his big teeth down on your tiny neck.
Even your solution is stupid. I remember one girl "rescued" an animal from death. The dog mauled her face so bad she had to get reconstructive surgery and her face still will never be the same.
She was smart, feminist...and starts dating a guy in prison. No one deserves what she got, but oh boy these people who have fascination for bad guys and girls. Just cant understand that shit
"feminist" in as far as kicking back women's rights and causes about 500 years. Modern feminism. Go figure. These are the same women who participate in shows like "married at first sight" or "90day fiancé". Soooo modern and so enlightened.
Feminism used to be a worthy cause, but within the last 10 to 15 years feminism became so extremely toxic, now it's all about hate towards men. Luckily there is some great women out there exposing the toxicity and hypocrisy of feminism. Feminism this day and age is almost like a bunch of women with serious mental issues and extreme hatred towards men hijacked the feminist movement. It's same thing with BLM when it started it was a worthy cause but somewhere down the line it became hijacked by Marxists and greedy people that only did it for the money and now the truth is coming out. They can't account where 60 million dollars in donations went and the government is now investigating the movement to find out what BLM did with the $60 million dollars in donations. It always surprises me that even after all this people are still willing to support BLM and are willing to donate to this toxic movement.
@@AviationNut Third Wave Feminism. It started in the late 80’s, early 90’s. Based solely on ‘right fighting’, not fighting for rights. It’s not a worthy cause anymore because there simply is no reason for it anymore.
@@AviationNut BLM has always been Marxist based. The demand for racism has long surpassed the supply for it… it started in the 80’s too; it’s about being in charge and having control, not about fairness.
This is the best true crime story I’ve heard in a while. You really felt the fear when she was out in the woods with him, and he stared at her. This was told very well. That detective should have her own podcast, I love her accent lol
She’s right. That kiss could’ve made or broke the case. If she didn’t kiss him, he may have never told her. If it is sexually motivated, the kiss could’ve triggered the reaction from him that they needed. I give her props for her intelligence and bravery
@@KajunMs39 He's not in prison, he's dead. Like they said towards the end there, he died just a few months after they arrested him, due to Hepatitis C.
How then to prove he did it? The courts won't even try the case and he'll never be found out because he knows he's a target. Not much thinking behind that.
Because they wanted her body. Any case where you don't have one can always result in a not guilty verdict. It is difficult to prove murder when you don't have a corpse.
My mom once went out on date with a man. During the date he told her he had been in jail for some crime. My mom immediately tensed up. He noticed how frightened she became. That was all she needed to know. She didn't care that it was for theft because if you can take what does not belong to you what else are you capable of. The date didn't last long.
@Cat Nip You made the willingness of someone to pilfer and the capacity to commit cold-blooded murder seem like they're closely related in terms of severity. Just because someone steals doesn't indicate a proclivity for violence. I mean, is there any statistical evidence? Maybe I'm wrong.
It is betrayal because he led to her to believe that had changed also it makes things more difficult for others who do want to change and no longer be trusted by most of society because of cases like this But you are right.
your right and your wrong some people do/can change who have done horrible crimes i know first hand cus my step dad he did almost 14 years for a bad crime but he's been out over 15 years now and my mother is alive
It was also luck Marie found the body first and pointed it out to him and had the presence of mind to make him believe they finally found her together. I wish her the best in her PI career!
He LED her to the body. He knew EXACTLY where it was and probably visited it many times. She knew he lead her to the body. I get what you're saying. She played the cards right.
The reason Brett was a witness in that murder case was to help himself, not from any integrity on his part. Unfortunately, Louise was naive about criminals, and snitches.
She misjudged his intentions. When someone does something good at a personal cost it is seen as integrity. In his case, he did for personal gain not as a sacrifice.
She thought he was helping an innocent man which shows integrity but his intent was purely selfish not selfless (ie helping someone else). He wasn't motivated by integrity. People who have integrity assume that everyone else does too, like them. People who have no integrity assume no one else has it too. People with wisdom see that people are not black or white according to their own worldview.
Funny, a person would never bring a killer dog into their home. Why would they ever bring a murderer into it?? Self esteem is imperative to healthy relationships and self-worth.
It was originally made for TV. Those are Ad breaks, with a quick catch up for those that are channel surfing and might stay to watch. We notice it less on TV than when it is all one block of content on TH-cam.
I wonder if she thought that by rescuing him, he would owe/love her forever, and deep seated insecurities and/or not feeling deserving of love. Very sad ending.
I agree with you 100 percent. She was probably raised by a narcissistic parent. Thats exactly how kind, even highly intelligent women get involved with sociopaths like this. When she saw things were on shaky ground with him, it also explains her visit to her ex. She was looking for that holy graille of love which is difficult to find for women over a certain age. I know because I have walked her walk. I am glad Marie gave her dignity and closure.
It's shown that women are more attracted to Psychopaths and violant men. How you think they have so many victims. You'll never hear a woman beater hurting for women
The woman who gave birth to me was like that , obsessed with her husband who contributed to my DNA. He was criminally abusive to us 8 siblings but she blamed it on us. He hang a brother 7 yrs old ,over a smoky wood fire whom he stuffed inside a jute sack, my brawny teenage godbrother intervened . Philippines' child abuse laws is a travesty and a joke . What is wrong with these women ? Stockholm syndrome as an explanation, to me is OFFENSIVE. Before she married her husband she had a stern warning from my fave Aunt that he is a woman beater, trouble maker, womanizer, thief, has criminal tendencies , jobless, uneducated, gambler, drank , but she was totally smitten with her bad boy till the end. Complained to me of all people that her husband would not have sex with her anymore. She was 75 yrs old . 3 yrs later she was dead. May I mention, she was a University graduate with Bachelor's degree. YES , women obsessively in love with criminals and murderers EXIST. Unfathomable !
Watched this years ago & happy to watch it again. Had a lump in my throat & tear in my eye for Marie’s bravery. Not many would do what she did. And to kiss the creep. That’s some balls.. & a strong stomach!
Marie is a friggin legend. It would be a huge honor to meet her in real life. What an amazing PI. I hope she is all well and taking down more criminals. Thank you Real Crime for these amazing contents.
@@Justin.Martyr what's wrong and why is your picture of a woman if your a man ?? just curious ..i just mean i'll pray for you . *YES I DO KNOW HIS NAME* Jeremiah 50:33-35 King James Version 33 *Thus saith the Lord of hosts* ; The children of Israel and the children of Judah were oppressed together: and all that took them captives held them fast; they refused to let them go. 34 *Their Redeemer is strong the Lord of hosts is his name* : he shall throughly plead their cause, that he may give rest to the land, and disquiet the inhabitants of Babylon 35 A sword is upon the Chaldeans, saith the Lord, and upon the inhabitants of Babylon, and upon her princes, and upon her wise men Isaiah 44:6
“Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, *and his redeemer the LORD of hosts I am the first, and I am the last* ; *and beside me there is no God* .” Revelation 22:13
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, *the first and the last* .”
Excellent program. Very impressed with Marie. The way she told her story had me on the edge of my seat. Desperate women are taken in by convicts because they get 100% of the con's time and attention. It's a scam, but they think that will continue when the con gets out of prison. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
He was a convicted murderer. She is just another typical woman ignoring all the nice guys and chose a fuckwit. She deserves no sympathy at all. She made her bed she can lay in it!!!
Apparently everyone can be reformed and has the right to a second chance without discrimination????? Aren’t we constantly be reminded of this with new early release laws, no bail, lighter sentences, perpetrators becoming the victims, name suppression etc. The world is becoming mere dangerous.
It's because they have been raised around cretinous men and a culture that covers for them in training girls to have no boundaries and train the fawn response towards traumatizing people. Don't be so smug, everyone has an Achilles heel hence the need for the myth to explain this human condition.
You can’t “fix” anyone. He needs to fix himself. And a convicted murderer no less. What goes through a person’s mind to want to be with a convicted murderer?
Do criminals deserve a second chance? My personal opinion, some of course do. Pedo’s, rapists, murderers, repeat hate crime offenders and any crime against children..sorry no. While Louise’s intentions were good, they were very misguided. May she Rest In Peace, glad through the hard work, her remains were found.
And this is precisely why every single rapist, child molester or murderer should never, EVER be released after being caught and convicted. Those are the kinds of people who will never "get better" or "be fixed". It's something that keeps repeating itself over and over again, and yet the "justice" systems all over the world fail to recognize it. Disgusting failure of the law.
Lordt🤦🏾♀️ I wish I could develop something that totally eradicates the urge to “fix” a person, ESPECIALLY a whole ass adult. So many would still be alive today.
This girl, despite being so intelligent and well educated, seemingly fell for a man who was totally incompatible for her in all ways. Maybe she was a dreamer, a romantic. Hard to understand how she could have a relationship otherwise with such a man who also murdered someone in the past and was charged with it. What was she thinking? Crazy stuff. PI is amazing, what she did here to get a conviction was truly fearless. Stuff of movies. Much respect to her.
I suspect it could be an idea of improving somebody, thus a sort of social project rather than romance, even if they try to convince themselves it's "love". The underlying drive may be sort of egoistical, expecting to help to someone and that person would love her (often it's women but occasionally men does it as well) forever out of gratitude, a kind of powerbalance that easily can become toxic in either direction.
Sandra Bentley It was a mix of naivety and a bit of arrogance. I can turn him into a different person, he wouldn't do any harm to me because I'm special. I guess she was thinking something along those lines.
When she said the massage to pass on to him, I felt so victorious and proud of this woman. Louise needed her to be on her case and get justice for her. What great woman and smart pi. RIP Louise
I disagree with that psychologist who said that Bret going into the woods to search for the body was for an adrenaline rush. No, he was "helping" to find the body because he thought then he'd have access to her bank accounts, etc. The detectives convinced him that he, (as her common-law husband) _could_ be granted legal access to her estate BUT, there had to be solid proof that she was deceased. They assured Bret that locating her body was the only thing standing between him & her money. THAT was why he helped! I think the adrenaline rush was when he ws in front of the cameras, crying for her return. And when he was posting flyers, etc., getting sympathy, knowing he'd kiIIed her already. Narcissists get a thrill out of things like that.
Dude's a classic PSYCHOPATH, It probably WAS a adrenaline rush to LEAD her to the body and OBVIOUSLY he wouldn't have been that stupid to do so had she not gained his trust. She got him to trust her to the point where he literally thought he could get away with "unknowingly" getting her to stumble across the body in hopes that the the other dude would be committed for her murder and then he could collect her assets. These nutcases get off on shit like that. It's pretty much a given that he went back to the body numerous times before he got so arrogant that he thought he could pull this stunt off.
What a crazy story! I'd love to read it as a book. Fascinating but also heartbreaking seeing how happy she looked with her future murderer on that photograph...
I think this was absurd. The cops are pretty weak if they can't think of a better way to convict this guy without having an unarmed middle-aged, new private investigator on her "second case", go wandering off into the woods with a psychopath. They should have scoured the area he was taking her to after they were there the last time. There were so many other options...And then they lost them! Two people in the woods and they are "following" them in a car? Inept and bizarre.
Cops are ridiculous and have to take no responsibility for it because they cover for each other. If she'd been killed they would say the detective purposefully went out of their sight for glory maybe, or accidentally because she was new. Trusting cops is like trusting criminals. be very careful.
And yet people vote for con men in politics hoping this one time they won't con them too based on how much game they spit. Example: Trump voters and Biden voters alike.
And gets taken down by a badass woman who knows how these men are versus the naive one who didn't. His murderous hatred for women is no match for Marie who rubbed his face in it at the end.
I would never, ever say that anyone deserves to be murdered, but this was a bad idea to begin with. I am not surprised to find out that she was in and out of an abusive relationship; it is pretty obvious that she must have had zero self esteem. I understand trying to see the best in everybody, but that said, is anyone surprised that the tiger didn’t change his stripes? He didn’t rat because of some kind of ideal or newfound morality, he was only helping himself. Ladies, you deserve much, much better!
@@SqueakyWheel__Inc. Wow, you seem to have a pretty fleshed out fantasy about her here. You seem fixated on blaming the victim but got no smoke for the repeat 4 times murderer. Very skewed judgement there buddy.
When you hear them say~Oh he was so charming!~ I didn't believe that for one second, just looking into his eyes after they were questioning him tells the whole story! His eyes are those of a killer, and if anyone has looked into one's eyes(I have, ex-felon)they would know because they all have that same look in their eyes almost as if nothing is there!!!
It's easy to project your own emotions onto them, that's how people get fooled. Predatory psychopaths can appear as a blank slate-- they will reflect back at you whatever you want to see. That's exactly what I experienced.
Being well educated doesn't necessarily mean that you are smart. I have met many educated people who are adequately proficient at what they do for a living, other than that they are thick as bricks. Obviously, this woman wasn't very smart, marrying a guy like that.
Intellectual capacity (you have a good memory, eager for knowledge) doesn't automatically qualify for emotional and social intelligence (how do I handle a certain situation or person so that I'm not being taken advantage of or get hurt and manage to achieve my goals in life e.g.). Intelligence is inherited and emotional/social skills are learned. Nature/nurture . Still people often say why did he/she do something so dumb, you are so intelligent?
Well, the way I understood it was she was going to the child's BIRTHDAY PARTY. Which so happened to be her exs house. It tells me that she had a bond with the little girl, as a former step mom, she even had a gift for the little girl in her jeep. I can see how that could happen. I may despise my ex (which I do, and the feeling is mutual. We hate each other but "tolerate" each other for the kids ), but I still go visit when there's a birthday party or something for the kids.
I find it even weirder that they were in the middle of watching a movie when the ex called and not only did she answer the phone, she spent an hour talking to him 🤷🏻♀️
Truly shows utter stupidity ...but i think they are saying that to make us the audience feel pity for her.. but literary she planned out her own murder
I am a High School graduate that worked upward in jobs to raise my son after a 2 year marriage. At 38 I remarried to a police officer. I had instincts all my life about people and never taken in. My husband a police officer and Detective for 33 years was the same way. Together we made a great team until I lost him. It amazes me that what they call successful intelligent people are always taken in by cons and killers.The biggest mistake is they always think that they are so smart they can fix the worst people. They never do and sometimes die from trying.
Magical thinking. Fantasy thinking. I have worked in the system and my radar is always up the minute I get a hinky feeling or I find out a person has been in jail. Sure, people make a stupid mistake but then never go back. It is the repeat offenders, even for petty BS crimes, that you need to quickly walk away from.
you are completely right. Academicals and people with a "high education" are extremely arrogant and they truly believe because of their many diploms they are the smartest. No, they aren't. At the university, I have met many of these types and I realized how ignorant, dumb and out of touch with reality these people are. When I heard about the victim background and the fact she was a liberal and feminist, she got the crown and everything was explained to me in that long sentence of her "acchievements". People with her background are easily to manipulate, to deceive and lie to. It is like the cases with psychopaths. They beliebe they are the smartest in the room and in general they are caught because of a little detail. The level of high self-confidence and lack of self-awareness make these people easy target and clearly spotted. In my opinion she was naive and lived in Planet Narnia. In a world full of deadly encounters being naive and being stupid is a dangerous naive. Maybe that's why the Bible says we must be humble like the doves and wise as the vipers. I follow this advice and I believe these words have saved my life many many times throughout the years.
@@gailjarvis2592 She was actually very adept at playing him and keeping her presence of mind in the face of his instability (psychopath stare). Most people, men & women, cannot do what she did and should not attempt it obviously. She clearly has some facility staying about her wits around deranged people.
@@gailjarvis2592 He was sweating but she wasn't...she was busy maneuvering him for her purposes. He was the dizzy one giddy with greed. Sociopaths are at some level profoundly dumb...short term thinking and extreme measures that have a high cost appeal to them when simpler/smarter measures would be optimal.
“Oh your a snitch, how brave and bonus you get time off your sentence. Oh you killed a hooker high on coke. I love you let me give you all my money.” And being murdered never crosses her blind eyes?
Unfortunately, magical thinking for some women is the order of the day. The majority are women who lack critical thinking skills. When I heard "justice advocate" that really was a big red flag. The first three letters of convict is "con".
She was a fool and they used her bizarre desire to "save Louise" (now a corpse) by risking becoming one herself. This was twisted. And watching the re-filming her at the site was creepy. This over-the-hill "new" private investigator (out of community college?) is going to get herself fired up and killed. Say, didn't this psychopath wonder what she was doing carrying her PURSE? Yeah, very bright cops. First lose them walking in the woods while you "follow" them in a car(!) and then wire her purse. Creepy.
Reminds me of the missionary that went to the uncontacted tribe, despite being warned not to, because they attack all outsiders. Needless to say, he got killed. I am not saying she had it coming or anything. It's just - never trust killers
It is what it is. If he died with content in his heart then he lived a life that was purposeful to him. The real question is, was he wrong or are they wrong for doing that? The answer is obvious. Culture doesn't excuse someone to kill another. If culture justifies the bad end means, why do we question or fight what's wrong in the first place?
@@jessyjulie5506 More would have.the tribe with diseases........he the missionary should not have been there he was breaking the law. The tribes men had every right to kill him. Why didnt that missionary try to breech the border security of North Korea or some USA air base or enter a Federal USA prison. He would get shot.
Uhm, yea, I’d never date anyone who outside of a speeding ticket broke the law in any way. It just tells you they are deceitful, conniving, untrustworthy people. Never, ever, let your guard down. I’m not saying what happened to this woman was her fault, but knowing this man’s background should’ve told her to stay away!!
Murder is another level of criminality altogether. But look at it this way, the government encourages & rewards murder in the military , including turning recruits against & murdering each other, while those in charge ignore it…And on another note, many young people commit crimes, and that’s the end of it because they grew up. Let’s not crucify people for Ridiculous reasons. And PLENTY of people turn their lives around after a criminal offense.
I'm in a relationship with a felon that I've known since 2013. Amazing father but shitty partner other than buying me the world.. I won't explain his convictions, he's never hurt or murdered any one but you're right- anyone that has more than a dang speeding ticket is trouble and everything you said above. I am a house mom / wife and don't know how to get out. I'm miserable. These people are shit..
He's also a family friend which is how we met. PARTNERS WITH MY DAD. Left him once before bc he cheated and my parents betrayed me and remained close with him..I am stuck. Idk what to do ...
She came across as a very wounded soul, very codependent. She put other people's lives at risk by helping to get him out of prison early, enabling him, and literally refusing to believe he could do any wrong. I consider that dangerous.
@@VioletJoy She wasn't intentionally dangerous. Girls are groomed to have no boundaries by the culture and the family system. Beauty and the Beast anyone? Red flag spotting in human behavior and learning about manipulation/emotional abuse is key and is largely done by domestic violence advocates and feminists relatively recently (decades) and you see how much push back that has even in the comments where some incels blame feminists for setting women back 🙄. Clearly feminists haven't done enough.
Women, have this in mind; YOU CAN NEVER “PRAY” THE EVIL AWAY. If someone has done something bad, be wary of them and have in mind you’ll never change anyone
Their P is their brain
Thanks for that advise!
Been there done that
Indeed.I say the same. Women always believe that a jerke can change because of their love. If he killed some woman before, believe me, he can kill you. Someday she believed he was a good guy just like you do now.
This is 100% Fact maybe 1% Might I say Might Change if you are lucky! I have Never seen a Man Change I Could give Plenty of Metaphors but I think this would be accurate as you are going to find! Woman Please listen a man if he has killed his Women he Will do it again! Stay away
She betrayed herself first by ever thinking she could fix a murderer. The epitome of codependency.
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RIP Louise.
@Star God bless you!! I pray you never think you can fix murderers.
@Star God bless you! I never mentioned forgiveness! Forgiveness and consequences for actions have nothing to do with one another.
I'm sorry for whatever it is that has made you so angry. Have a blessed day!
@Star Heres a hug for you. 🤗
Falling in love with a convicted murderer... what could possibly go wrong!
Exactly.
Desperate for love
Just like Vicky White and Casey White.
N o t h i n g!!
Everything
Reminds me of the case of a guy who killed his pregnant wife, then was helped to get out of prison by a preacher who let his own daughter marry this guy.…who then ended up killing his new wife/preachers daughter and the children they had together (and the children she had from a previous marriage)
…guys, stop contacting murderers and criminals in prison, they are there for a reason and should stay there. And don’t give them a “second chance” to kill another woman!
I remember that
@@TawnyC_ i know that also some people dont change
I'd love to see that story. Any idea of names? Thanks.
@@rubytuesday5412 Gregory Green murdered his pregnant wife and the pastor got him paroled. Green then married his daughter. He tied her in a chair and killed her two kids in front of her. He stabbed and shot her but she lived. He killed their two daughters with carbon monoxide.
She chose to put her kids in that situation when they had no choice, and then had two more kids with a murderer. So that's what happens.
@@beasworld5155 some people do change. People like to take one particular case and apply it to ALL
‘When someone shows you who they are, believe them’. Maya Angelou.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Yes🏃but attachments and a need to belong sometimes gets in the way of that 😔
Or not.
Believe them the 1st time
Why did you cut off the full quote?
…believe them the first time.”
He died 2 months into sentencing… who knows if her body would have ever been found had the private investigator not been so persistent in gaining his trust. And for that to have been her first real experience working a case is amazing.
What Marie did is very impressive! I love her bravery and Intelligence!
My friend did missionary work in prison and fell in love with a convicted killer. She helped him with parole and they got married and after few years he killed her. Chilling!!!
Thats sad, sorry for your loss
My ex step dad tried to kill most of his ex wives, met a pastor in prison and shes married to him now 🙄 I'm not about to hold my breath on how that one will end
What was your friend's name? Sorry about what happened.
@Rosa Petals Want to learn about the victim's story.
@@artemisameretsu6905 wow
Marie deserves an award. Such an incredibly brave woman.
Truly … she’s a brave woman!!! Amazing job. A repulsive 🤮 man.
She totally does! I hope the police force or FBI offered her a job! They couldn’t have cracked this case without her! 🙌🏽
Tell Brett "how does it feel to be taken down by a woman". Lol... So proud of you Marie!
@@patinajadeatherton2385 She's clearly gifted at that type of work. Wow.
Or stupid... who gets close with a convicted murdered who's ex girlfriend has gone missing. & I've only watched 10 minutes of this.
Marie is one heroic soldier! My heart stopped when she talked about how he just stood there and stared . She’s got the guts and the brains!
Much more than Louise sorry to say. RIP.
It’s hard enough to trust a person who never murdered anyone but to get with one who did is beyond me. 🙏🏻😌 I understand some people think a person can change but it’s normally never the case.
I agree to me there in freedom now but dead inside there soul theres a beast waiting for the urge to kill
I would never be with a murder ,it would be like
Getting involved with a sick pedofile
Yup you know all there is to know. By the by have YOU ever made a mistake????
@@angeliapittman4776 is there such a thing as a non sick profile?
Worse part was she actually Knew he was a murderer as oppose to getting deceived about his past. And It's not like he had dashing good looks either! 🤦🏻♀️
NEVER the case*
What a courageous detective who risked her life to find the victims body .
Sarcasm? They did a crappy job protecting her. She's lucky to be alive
Unbelievable. She was dead set on finding Louise, no matter what it took.
@@kwikky22 She said the PI was courageous and risked her life. Did I miss something?
@@VioletJoy I'm sorry, I thought she was referring to the police detective and not the private investigator, who was very brave.
@@kwikky22 Well, we can definitely all agree on that. 👍
Marie is such an amazing private investigator. She gave so much attention to every information and details.
Cos having a relationship with a convicted murderer was always going to end happily ever after. geez!
Well, I suppose it would really depend on what the type of murder conviction the person was convicted of, such as, was it 1st Degree Premeditated Murder, 2nd Degree Murder, Voluntary/Involuntary Manslaughter, etc. AND just as(if not more)importantly WHO the victim was. If that person killed someone trying to defend themself or someone they love, that wouldn’t be a bad thing or a cause to tuck tail and run.
People deserve redemption and we have to believe people can be rehabilitated…
But yeah maybe just don’t date men who kill hookers ..
Can't cure stupid.
Right?! Sounds like a great idea 🤦🏼♀️
Are you... implying its her fault..?
Marie is not only a hero but a fantastic storyteller. I hope she got the rights for the book
I'm so impressed. She reminds me a bit of that bad ass lawyer, Kathleen Zellner.
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Marie is an absolute icon. Really inspires me to pursue my own interest in becoming a private investigator. She was committed and did her due diligence to find Louise and get her killer put back behind bars. What an absolutely powerful woman.
I could never understand why anyone would fall in love with a killer.
Desperation to be loved
Low self esteem.
They actually talk about that in the documentary. Ironically she may have had an inflated ego, thinking she could save him and she couldn't.
Is drinking poison, expecting someone else to die. There has to be some mental illness involved.
criminals are people like you and me. They show you what they want you to see, their charming side, not their agressive or manipulative side, until they have formed a bond with you.
If you've murdered someone once before, your more inclined to murder again, she was taking a huge risk by getting involved with him.
Exactly. I haven't finished watching this. But could a murder be the murder?
I thought it was idiotic and I thought it was outrageous for these inept cops to let this old woman (relatively speaking) go wandering off into the woods with a convicted psychopath, - while they "follow her" with a car (!) and lose her. She seems like a loose cannon herself. You don't climb into the cage with the lion.
I covered crime for 16 years of my life. And I can assure you that the chance of a killer to commit another homicide is high. From all the killers I interviewed, more than 80% of them killed again once released from jail and then, they confessed to me: "I may kill again". I left the Press in 2004. I saw too much and I witnessed enough. Nobody should ever do what this woman used to. You can only understand evil after living for many years inside it and I lived Hell from Sunday to Sunday and I know demons exist, in this world and in the invisible one. Never ever do what she did, it costed her life.
Just to kiss someone on the surface doesn’t sound so awful daring and dedicated. But Marie going through that and putting herself in that situation for another human says so much about her. A real life super hero.
Um, I think we know what the moral of the story is. Not only did she date/trust a convicted killer, but she then tried to fix him (loaning large sums of money, etc). Just one of those would have been bad enough. She was way too smart/talented to make such stupid choices. Women, stop settling for garbage. Learn to love yourself FIRST, which will obliterate the desperation, and eliminate the settling thing. Learn to love/appreciate/respect yourself so much that you could still greatly enjoy your life even without a partner. Only then will you more likely attract someone worth having as a partner. But you have to be good with not having one FIRST.
So well said
Literally ugh!
In the words of Kennie JD, “Get better investments.”
70% of women are desperate for love and will settle for any male, especially ones that are 'dangerous', 'exciting', the bad boy who gives them attention and tells them what they want to hear. Most women will believe anything simply because they are so desperate.
I believe she was being a martyr by 'rescuing' him.
Unfortunately, she wasn't smart enough to understand that a man who murdered a woman & has been locked up for a long time, won't tolerate her being friends with an ex partner.
Yeah this sounds like a classic what did you think was going to happen? Why anyone would trust a murderer is beyond me.
A jailhouse snitch to boot! Sad...
Exactly and you know she thought he was a changed man and nothing like that would happen to her, ever.
@@pamelamorris3148 as far as I am concerned she should be nominated for the Darwin Award.
They want to trust because they're hopeful that they found the one murderer who won't reoffend.
_...sometimes_ people do change. But yeah, psychopaths don't, at least afaik.
Because she wanted to be the one to redeem him…
There is also an outrageous amount of women that search out prisoners to befriend and pursue for romantic relationships. Why? They think that they’ll be the one to save them. You can’t. They can save themselves if they want to. Meet a man outside of prison ladies.
“Woman who loves the warmth of the sun, stares directly at it and goes blind”
Where did you hear this ?
If every investigator was as sharp, determined, and gifted as her, I bet murder and crime would go WAY down.
Sharp as a boulder, evidently
I think even she would admit she made some stupid mistakes.
Investigators do their job after the fact, how will that decrease crime? Think people, participation trophy society is dumb
Sometimes the source is not far away, the one who calls 911 or cries out about their missing someone is just the person who caused it. 🤔
You do realize that the Police are bound by guidelines that PI's aren't, the same goes for Bounty Hunters. If a BH sees the person they are chasing in a home for instance, they don't have to wait for a warrant, they an just kick in the door. All while the cops have to follow the guidelines before going in the home and that can take hours. The same goes for questioning folks, cops have to be real careful while PI's can ask or say whatever they want and if the "criminal" asks for an attorney, the PI doesn't have to stop questioning them. I really wish folks would learn that most of the time before cops can react, that's their job to react, they have to deal with all of the red tape. I'm not saying every cop does it the right way but those cops cases usually get tossed out of court because they skipped the process that actually hinders their job.
OMG! This story could have been HALF the length if they didnt repeat the story what seemed like 10 times over! Just tell the damn story!
Just explained this in another comment. When these shows originally aired, they had commercial breaks. After the break, the shows always do a small recap to bring those who have missed the previous parts up to speed. When you remove the commercials, there's just recaps.
Nay nay
Thanks i fast forward it lol
🤣😂🤣 absolutely
I watch it in 1.75 speed and fast forward through the reviews.
Once someone shows a capacity for extreme cruelty (for example, committing an extremely violent crime) DO NOT TRUST THEM.
Like the US Government
Yeah. Run away now. Been there. You're not to blame but NEVER VOLUNTEER by explaining or excusing them.
Imagine having this low of a level of self love and self preservation to KNOWINGLY deal with a murderer. I dated a guy that I found out had just an AGGRAVATED ASSAULT charge. I ran his background as SOON as I learned his full name. I left INSTANTLY once I found out. I would never ever KNOWINGLY date a violent man. Just sad that some people are so desperate for a relationship that they'll date anybody.
She sounds like she had a complex about "saving" this romantic figure of a guy. His being a murderer made him sympathetic and appealing and needy. Many women martyr themselves to needy-seeming men. She, as her friend said: "was a justice seeker". He was her one man mission.
@@gailjarvis2592 What an irony, isn't it. If Louise was a "justice seeker", why didn't she think about the poor woman he murdered, how devastating it must be for her family and friends. As if the life of that poor woman was not important just because she's a hooker.
Will you date me? All my crimes were committed in the metaverse
@@glamsky3257 To be fair, I didn't hear that she said the lady's life didn't matter because she was a hooker. I'm not sure where that came from. It's much more likely that she was had googly eyes for this guy because she was codependent.
This is why women should stay away from dusties!
No love can change a damaged human being. Just leave them alone
Exactly. Some people are evil. RUN!!
The whole purpose behind love got redefined and *conveniently rearranged by most. As it was never meant to be used and abused to achieve unbearable outcomes as such. If ones genuine Love was able to change someone that's broken, they would find Love and honor it. Verses someone having to actively extend themselves over and over and over and over and over again........ just so it could be used, tormented and abused.
FACT!
Well that's not true
Very well said.
I'm against anyone dating someone you meet while they're in prison. You cannot know the real person this way.
You think!?!
Their past will predict your future.
Not too good to date someone you meet in re-hab, either.
@@lynnehuff9659 People meet in all kinds of places
I have never heard of a situation that anything good came out of meeting/dating in prison
Want to rescue someone and find true love? Go to the pound and adopt a dog or cat who’s on death row for no good reason. Don’t do the same with a human. It won’t work out well for you. If you marry/date a murderer, you’re basically dating/marrying a lion. That lion may cuddle with you, tolerate you, take food and attention from you, but one of these days it’s gonna take a swat at you and clamp his big teeth down on your tiny neck.
Even your solution is stupid. I remember one girl "rescued" an animal from death. The dog mauled her face so bad she had to get reconstructive surgery and her face still will never be the same.
@@Ready-ForTheEnd One in a million. I have 10 animals saved from the pound and they are the most beautiful souls.
Dogs aren't on death row for no reason.
@@third-strike innocent people are on death row too, you know.
@@third-strike ...because they can't afford good doggo lawyers?
She was smart, feminist...and starts dating a guy in prison. No one deserves what she got, but oh boy these people who have fascination for bad guys and girls. Just cant understand that shit
"feminist" in as far as kicking back women's rights and causes about 500 years. Modern feminism. Go figure. These are the same women who participate in shows like "married at first sight" or "90day fiancé". Soooo modern and so enlightened.
Feminism used to be a worthy cause, but within the last 10 to 15 years feminism became so extremely toxic, now it's all about hate towards men. Luckily there is some great women out there exposing the toxicity and hypocrisy of feminism. Feminism this day and age is almost like a bunch of women with serious mental issues and extreme hatred towards men hijacked the feminist movement. It's same thing with BLM when it started it was a worthy cause but somewhere down the line it became hijacked by Marxists and greedy people that only did it for the money and now the truth is coming out. They can't account where 60 million dollars in donations went and the government is now investigating the movement to find out what BLM did with the $60 million dollars in donations. It always surprises me that even after all this people are still willing to support BLM and are willing to donate to this toxic movement.
I like dangerous men 😔😔 idk why .. maybe my radar is skewed because I never had a good man around me growing up
@@AviationNut Third Wave Feminism. It started in the late 80’s, early 90’s. Based solely on ‘right fighting’, not fighting for rights. It’s not a worthy cause anymore because there simply is no reason for it anymore.
@@AviationNut BLM has always been Marxist based. The demand for racism has long surpassed the supply for it… it started in the 80’s too; it’s about being in charge and having control, not about fairness.
This is the best true crime story I’ve heard in a while. You really felt the fear when she was out in the woods with him, and he stared at her. This was told very well. That detective should have her own podcast, I love her accent lol
Me tooo!!
She’s right. That kiss could’ve made or broke the case. If she didn’t kiss him, he may have never told her. If it is sexually motivated, the kiss could’ve triggered the reaction from him that they needed. I give her props for her intelligence and bravery
I'm sure they fxxxxd.
"How does it feel to be taken down by a woman?" Whew, I got goosebumps, she rocks! Girl power! RIP Louise and the other victims. :(
@@floatpool8307 the private investigator was just as dumb as the writer.
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Yea it's a brave statement but don't be too cocky. Just because he's in prison doesn't mean anything.
I'm just hoping she stays Safe!!
@@KajunMs39 He's not in prison, he's dead. Like they said towards the end there, he died just a few months after they arrested him, due to Hepatitis C.
@@Valoelify oh my badd
She did those cops' jobs for them, and they jeopardized her cover AND lectured her about her tactics. Well done.
If you knew it was a snake and you lay down beside it. Don't be surprised when it bites you.
Please don't insult snakes comparing them to that scumbag sociopath murderer.
Exactly. These people with their self opinionated idea that they can "fix/save" other people is delusional & pathetic.
@@rocioaguilera3555 ; it’s clearly a metaphor
@@Janax_0423 I know it, and my comment is a joke.
How ridiculous that they didn't IMMEDIATELY arrest this ex-con, who had killed a woman already, AFTER she was reported missing by HIM.
How then to prove he did it? The courts won't even try the case and he'll never be found out because he knows he's a target. Not much thinking behind that.
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Because they wanted her body. Any case where you don't have one can always result in a not guilty verdict. It is difficult to prove murder when you don't have a corpse.
@@Jeweleye62 Your premise is outdated. There are plenty of successful murder cases without bodies in the past 10-20 years. Do your homework.
@@breezluize3282 yeah and way more evidence than a damn phone call though. Thats not even close to probable cause
My mom once went out on date with a man. During the date he told her he had been in jail for some crime. My mom immediately tensed up. He noticed how frightened she became. That was all she needed to know. She didn't care that it was for theft because if you can take what does not belong to you what else are you capable of. The date didn't last long.
Smart mom. Criminals don t change.
There's a pretty large gap.
@@BarrywHiteFTW what does that mean?
@Cat Nip You made the willingness of someone to pilfer and the capacity to commit cold-blooded murder seem like they're closely related in terms of severity.
Just because someone steals doesn't indicate a proclivity for violence.
I mean, is there any statistical evidence? Maybe I'm wrong.
You think a thief is a gentle kind soul? They usually carry weapons too. If you can take what isn't yours you are lacking a moral compass.
Yeah wow can we jsut take a moment and applaud Marie Parent for keeping her wits about her and handling all of that SO WELL!
Well that's what a lot if women do even if they're not on camera. Many don't go in the PI business though. It's dangerous
This PI is so incredibly brave! She's a HERO!
Please, this isn't the ultimate betrayal. This is entering a trap with your eyes wide open
It is betrayal because he led to her to believe that had changed also it makes things more difficult for others who do want to change and no longer be trusted by most of society because of cases like this
But you are right.
@@adrukova1407 an interesting point
@@adrukova1407 I AGREE👍
Right these women that date convicts are dumb
your right and your wrong some people do/can change who have done horrible crimes i know first hand cus my step dad he did almost 14 years for a bad crime but he's been out over 15 years now and my mother is alive
It was also luck Marie found the body first and pointed it out to him and had the presence of mind to make him believe they finally found her together. I wish her the best in her PI career!
He LED her to the body. He knew EXACTLY where it was and probably visited it many times. She knew he lead her to the body. I get what you're saying. She played the cards right.
She is a very keen woman.
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Exactly… very clever and brave. 👏
Sh must have experience with evil men to have such presence of mind where most would falter. This speaks to experience.
Wow! What a captivating story! So proud of Marie for sticking it out! Woman Power!
LoL. Bet the dead one feels powerful eh?
Leave it to a misogynist to be in the comments when it has absolutely nothing to do with them. LoL
@@SC-sn3xs because their narcissists
amen
Too many times in life, we are our own worst enemy.
Women need to not be so fast to hop into bed with a man right out and not try to fix the men they meet.
So true !!
The reason Brett was a witness in that murder case was to help himself, not from any integrity on his part. Unfortunately, Louise was naive about criminals, and snitches.
No one told her that convicted murderers don’t make good companions? Huh. REALLY?!??
Natural selection, perhaps
@@bonjovirocks24 ..Bounce, troll.
She misjudged his intentions. When someone does something good at a personal cost it is seen as integrity. In his case, he did for personal gain not as a sacrifice.
She thought he was helping an innocent man which shows integrity but his intent was purely selfish not selfless (ie helping someone else).
He wasn't motivated by integrity. People who have integrity assume that everyone else does too, like them. People who have no integrity assume no one else has it too. People with wisdom see that people are not black or white according to their own worldview.
Funny, a person would never bring a killer dog into their home. Why would they ever bring a murderer into it??
Self esteem is imperative to healthy relationships and self-worth.
Intentional murderers do not deserve "a second chance." See, not everything deserves a second chance.
Very few criminals deserve a second chance. Maybe a few non-violent ones.
I don’t like how the repeat the same things that happened over and over again. This could have been a 15 minute documentary.
Right?! It's driving me NUTS and the slow commentary style is as though it's aimed at 8 yr olds.
It was originally made for TV.
Those are Ad breaks, with a quick catch up for those that are channel surfing and might stay to watch. We notice it less on TV than when it is all one block of content on TH-cam.
@@rustymcgee14455 lololololololol
I wonder if she thought that by rescuing him, he would owe/love her forever, and deep seated insecurities and/or not feeling deserving of love. Very sad ending.
I agree with you 100 percent. She was probably raised by a narcissistic parent. Thats exactly how kind, even highly intelligent women get involved with sociopaths like this. When she saw things were on shaky ground with him, it also explains her visit to her ex. She was looking for that holy graille of love which is difficult to find for women over a certain age. I know because I have walked her walk. I am glad Marie gave her dignity and closure.
@Anne M
Very true, if only we felt that deep in our souls. I feel I’m only learning it now in my 50’s
She even made him heir to her estate??!!! DAMN!!And even when he was stealing she still didn't remove him. Well that's too much trust for me
It's shown that women are more attracted to Psychopaths and violant men. How you think they have so many victims. You'll never hear a woman beater hurting for women
Stupid women
The woman who gave birth to me was like that , obsessed with her husband who contributed to my DNA. He was criminally abusive to us 8 siblings but she blamed it on us. He hang a brother 7 yrs old ,over a smoky wood fire whom he stuffed inside a jute sack, my brawny teenage godbrother intervened . Philippines' child abuse laws is a travesty and a joke . What is wrong with these women ? Stockholm syndrome as an explanation, to me is OFFENSIVE. Before she married her husband she had a stern warning from my fave Aunt that he is a woman beater, trouble maker, womanizer, thief, has criminal tendencies , jobless, uneducated, gambler, drank , but she was totally smitten with her bad boy till the end.
Complained to me of all people that her husband would not have sex with her anymore. She was 75 yrs old . 3 yrs later she was dead. May I mention, she was a University graduate with Bachelor's degree.
YES , women obsessively in love with criminals and murderers EXIST. Unfathomable !
Watched this years ago & happy to watch it again. Had a lump in my throat & tear in my eye for Marie’s bravery. Not many would do what she did. And to kiss the creep. That’s some balls.. & a strong stomach!
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Marie is a friggin legend. It would be a huge honor to meet her in real life. What an amazing PI. I hope she is all well and taking down more criminals.
Thank you Real Crime for these amazing contents.
There was a sign and a signal....he was in jail and admitted to killing a women 17 years pior! If that doesn't give you a clue well.......
She married a murderer and a snitch, I’m questioning her judgement and sanity.
Exactly
Classic case of being so OpEn MiNdEd that your brain is falling out
She had no judgement, no common sense or anything between her ears!
Sadly true
And, why would a married woman be going to spend the weekend with her ex-boyfriend and his daughter ??
I've always told my kids "If you ride like lightning. You're going to crash like Thunder"
Scary that Louise actually sought out her own killer.
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Give $20,000 to a convicted murderer. Then ask him to return your money in 2 months… give me a break. Will you.
😂😂😂
Good observation.
Wish I could come up with 20 grand in 2 months!
She wasn't thinking straight. 😕
Excellent program. Very impressed with Marie. The way she told her story had me on the edge of my seat. Desperate women are taken in by convicts because they get 100% of the con's time and attention. It's a scam, but they think that will continue when the con gets out of prison. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
So sad! Sometimes people with a trusting heart don’t see the evil and you have to learn the hard way! When people show you who they are believe them.
Maya Angelou said believe them. Get away, and never return.
Please do not marry or shack, and never get pregnant.
It's a thing. Most killers have dozens of women wanting them.
He was a convicted murderer. She is just another typical woman ignoring all the nice guys and chose a fuckwit. She deserves no sympathy at all. She made her bed she can lay in it!!!
@@russellpragnell2087 💯
This is simply an example of why our heads are placed above our hearts.
She should have used her head for something other than a hat rack.
The naivety of people with criminals. Unbelievable.
She wasn't the first- sadly she won't be the last!
Apparently everyone can be reformed and has the right to a second chance without discrimination????? Aren’t we constantly be reminded of this with new early release laws, no bail, lighter sentences, perpetrators becoming the victims, name suppression etc. The world is becoming mere dangerous.
It's because they have been raised around cretinous men and a culture that covers for them in training girls to have no boundaries and train the fawn response towards traumatizing people. Don't be so smug, everyone has an Achilles heel hence the need for the myth to explain this human condition.
You have never known a charming psychopath or you wouldn't say that.
Making Feminist and intelligent woman mad how dare you.
This is why convicted murderers get the death sentence here in Malaysia. There's no chance of them murdering again.
You can’t “fix” anyone. He needs to fix himself. And a convicted murderer no less. What goes through a person’s mind to want to be with a convicted murderer?
Louise had some mental problem herself.
@@Willowy13 I would agree with that. I would say low self esteem for one.
@@Willowy13 You nailed it! She had serious issues.
Well usually they've been raised in that environment. Be nice no matter what be docile bla bla bla.
Do criminals deserve a second chance? My personal opinion, some of course do. Pedo’s, rapists, murderers, repeat hate crime offenders and any crime against children..sorry no. While Louise’s intentions were good, they were very misguided. May she Rest In Peace, glad through the hard work, her remains were found.
Right
"The road to Hell leads with good intentions"🤷
And this is precisely why every single rapist, child molester or murderer should never, EVER be released after being caught and convicted. Those are the kinds of people who will never "get better" or "be fixed". It's something that keeps repeating itself over and over again, and yet the "justice" systems all over the world fail to recognize it. Disgusting failure of the law.
Lordt🤦🏾♀️ I wish I could develop something that totally eradicates the urge to “fix” a person, ESPECIALLY a whole ass adult. So many would still be alive today.
its a stupidity thing
@Black First Amen Amen
😂😂😂 it is the highest level of narcissistic behaviour thinking oneself to be the one to change a bad boy or bad girl
This girl, despite being so intelligent and well educated, seemingly fell for a man who was totally incompatible for her in all ways. Maybe she was a dreamer, a romantic. Hard to understand how she could have a relationship otherwise with such a man who also murdered someone in the past and was charged with it. What was she thinking? Crazy stuff. PI is amazing, what she did here to get a conviction was truly fearless. Stuff of movies. Much respect to her.
I suspect it could be an idea of improving somebody, thus a sort of social project rather than romance, even if they try to convince themselves it's "love". The underlying drive may be sort of egoistical, expecting to help to someone and that person would love her (often it's women but occasionally men does it as well) forever out of gratitude, a kind of powerbalance that easily can become toxic in either direction.
Sandra Bentley It was a mix of naivety and a bit of arrogance. I can turn him into a different person, he wouldn't do any harm to me because I'm special. I guess she was thinking something along those lines.
@@martinamoskale2445 true.
Nah she’s DESPERATE thinking she can control a sociopath convicted murderer. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. Darwin Award winner!!
Low self esteem.
Marie had some big balls to do what she did to find Louise. Love what she did.
*Big ovaries
I love when she said how does it feel taken down by a woman ❤️
Seriously the best message ever to pass on to that cretin. Marie is awesome!
Especially with that accent. Awesome
@@kellyann1213 that accent is super sexy 😍
@@LynxStarAuto Frosted Lucky Charms, they're magically delicious.
@@trishpipkins what is a cretin, ?? I never heard that word before. Also I agree Marie is Awesome.
Tell Brett "how does it feel to be taken down by a woman". Lol...I love this lady. So proud of her.
When she said the massage to pass on to him, I felt so victorious and proud of this woman. Louise needed her to be on her case and get justice for her. What great woman and smart pi. RIP Louise
They should make this into movie. Marie is very brave.
What an awesome private investigator she is! I’m sure when she was deep in the woods she was scared to death with that guy.
Thanks!
Most women go into a relationship thinking they can change a man's "bad" ways. That never happens and if it does it's very very rare
Because they are often delusional & self opinionated. They think they are special & have special abilities to be able to change other people.
It has never happened
I disagree with that psychologist who said that Bret going into the woods to search for the body was for an adrenaline rush.
No, he was "helping" to find the body because he thought then he'd have access to her bank accounts, etc. The detectives convinced him that he, (as her common-law husband) _could_ be granted legal access to her estate BUT, there had to be solid proof that she was deceased. They assured Bret that locating her body was the only thing standing between him & her money. THAT was why he helped!
I think the adrenaline rush was when he ws in front of the cameras, crying for her return. And when he was posting flyers, etc., getting sympathy, knowing he'd kiIIed her already. Narcissists get a thrill out of things like that.
Good analysis!! This sounds more believable!!
Dude's a classic PSYCHOPATH, It probably WAS a adrenaline rush to LEAD her to the body and OBVIOUSLY he wouldn't have been that stupid to do so had she not gained his trust. She got him to trust her to the point where he literally thought he could get away with "unknowingly" getting her to stumble across the body in hopes that the the other dude would be committed for her murder and then he could collect her assets. These nutcases get off on shit like that. It's pretty much a given that he went back to the body numerous times before he got so arrogant that he thought he could pull this stunt off.
True
It could very well have been both - getting a rush and finding her body for access to her money. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
Bingo. That psychologist/psychiatrist missed the motive by a country mile, so much for his "expertise". It was just pure old fashioned greed.
What a crazy story! I'd love to read it as a book. Fascinating but also heartbreaking seeing how happy she looked with her future murderer on that photograph...
Imagine your girl leaves you fir a murderer in prison
That’s gotta sting a little
Naaah she will get whats coming for her...you just wait
I think this was absurd. The cops are pretty weak if they can't think of a better way to convict this guy without having an unarmed middle-aged, new private investigator on her "second case", go wandering off into the woods with a psychopath. They should have scoured the area he was taking her to after they were there the last time. There were so many other options...And then they lost them! Two people in the woods and they are "following" them in a car? Inept and bizarre.
Seriously. What would have happened if he did attack her? Would the police be responsible?
Good question about what they would do if the worst happened….probable deniability.
Maybe they did not like women either, and were hoping...
I see a lot of smug looks on some these cops faces, and buddy buddy with the women killers, like they are their heros...satan at work...
Cops are ridiculous and have to take no responsibility for it because they cover for each other. If she'd been killed they would say the detective purposefully went out of their sight for glory maybe, or accidentally because she was new. Trusting cops is like trusting criminals. be very careful.
Wait so you’re telling me a convicted murderer murdered her?
“Shocking!” 🤷🏻♂️
And yet people vote for con men in politics hoping this one time they won't con them too based on how much game they spit. Example: Trump voters and Biden voters alike.
And gets taken down by a badass woman who knows how these men are versus the naive one who didn't. His murderous hatred for women is no match for Marie who rubbed his face in it at the end.
I would never, ever say that anyone deserves to be murdered, but this was a bad idea to begin with. I am not surprised to find out that she was in and out of an abusive relationship; it is pretty obvious that she must have had zero self esteem. I understand trying to see the best in everybody, but that said, is anyone surprised that the tiger didn’t change his stripes? He didn’t rat because of some kind of ideal or newfound morality, he was only helping himself. Ladies, you deserve much, much better!
"In life, we don't get what we deserve, we get what we are willing to tolerate"-Tony Robbins.
And she helped get him out of prison early. Shame on her. That's putting everyone else's lives at risk.
@@SqueakyWheel__Inc. Wow, you seem to have a pretty fleshed out fantasy about her here. You seem fixated on blaming the victim but got no smoke for the repeat 4 times murderer. Very skewed judgement there buddy.
Ladies!! they are in jail for a reason don’t dance in the flames and not expect to get burned 🤷🏻♀️
When you hear them say~Oh he was so charming!~ I didn't believe that for one second, just looking into his eyes after they were questioning him tells the whole story! His eyes are those of a killer, and if anyone has looked into one's eyes(I have, ex-felon)they would know because they all have that same look in their eyes almost as if nothing is there!!!
It's easy to project your own emotions onto them, that's how people get fooled. Predatory psychopaths can appear as a blank slate-- they will reflect back at you whatever you want to see. That's exactly what I experienced.
Being well educated doesn't necessarily mean that you are smart. I have met many educated people who are adequately proficient at what they do for a living, other than that they are thick as bricks. Obviously, this woman wasn't very smart, marrying a guy like that.
Exactly. 💯💯
Book smart (school smart) is not the same as street smart (common sense).
I've met some really DUMB book smart people.
Intellectual capacity (you have a good memory, eager for knowledge) doesn't automatically qualify for emotional and social intelligence (how do I handle a certain situation or person so that I'm not being taken advantage of or get hurt and manage to achieve my goals in life e.g.). Intelligence is inherited and emotional/social skills are learned. Nature/nurture . Still people often say why did he/she do something so dumb, you are so intelligent?
Absolutely agree. Plus, in my opinion, she thought she was saving him. How arrogant is this
@@cccpsovietunionisnothingbu2402 very arrogant & delusional
Exactly. But even if you are smart you can make stupid decisions based on feelings and/or life experiences.
Marie is such a bad ass PI, hats off to her!!!
Marie is a real badass and a hero. What a strong person she is.
She is with this guy but goes to visit her ex??? Dates a guy in prison.? Sorry but this woman seems a bit strange to me.
Its the feminist part. Entitlement.
Well, the way I understood it was she was going to the child's BIRTHDAY PARTY. Which so happened to be her exs house. It tells me that she had a bond with the little girl, as a former step mom, she even had a gift for the little girl in her jeep. I can see how that could happen. I may despise my ex (which I do, and the feeling is mutual. We hate each other but "tolerate" each other for the kids ), but I still go visit when there's a birthday party or something for the kids.
Exactly wtf she dug her own damn grave she was fascinated with crimes obviously Smfh 🙄 xxx
@@BeRightBack131 she had a gift for the little girl inside the Jeep, and a gift for the ex inside her jeans! Please grow up !
I find it even weirder that they were in the middle of watching a movie when the ex called and not only did she answer the phone, she spent an hour talking to him 🤷🏻♀️
I have mad respect for that woman, damn she is truly brave.
Dating a killer is never a good idea in the first place.
She’s a damn brave woman.
Them: She was very intelligent! Brilliant! Educated!
She: hmmm yea a murderer would make a wonderful partner!
Also her: here take my money!
i honestly thought the same thing. she mustn’t have been too smart & educated to even start a relationship with a known murderer 😕🤦🏽♀️
She was bookwise, not streetwise.
@@LynxStarAuto .. still her: but I will ask you to give them back ok?
Truly shows utter stupidity ...but i think they are saying that to make us the audience feel pity for her.. but literary she planned out her own murder
Marie-what a woman!!! “How does it feel to be taken down by a woman.” Outstanding!!❤️
I am a High School graduate that worked upward in jobs to raise my son after a 2 year marriage. At 38 I remarried to a police officer. I had instincts all my life about people and never taken in. My husband a police officer and Detective for 33 years was the same way. Together we made a great team until I lost him. It amazes me that what they call successful intelligent people are always taken in by cons and killers.The biggest mistake is they always think that they are so smart they can fix the worst people. They never do and sometimes die from trying.
Magical thinking. Fantasy thinking. I have worked in the system and my radar is always up the minute I get a hinky feeling or I find out a person has been in jail. Sure, people make a stupid mistake but then never go back. It is the repeat offenders, even for petty BS crimes, that you need to quickly walk away from.
you are completely right. Academicals and people with a "high education" are extremely arrogant and they truly believe because of their many diploms they are the smartest. No, they aren't. At the university, I have met many of these types and I realized how ignorant, dumb and out of touch with reality these people are. When I heard about the victim background and the fact she was a liberal and feminist, she got the crown and everything was explained to me in that long sentence of her "acchievements". People with her background are easily to manipulate, to deceive and lie to. It is like the cases with psychopaths. They beliebe they are the smartest in the room and in general they are caught because of a little detail. The level of high self-confidence and lack of self-awareness make these people easy target and clearly spotted. In my opinion she was naive and lived in Planet Narnia. In a world full of deadly encounters being naive and being stupid is a dangerous naive. Maybe that's why the Bible says we must be humble like the doves and wise as the vipers. I follow this advice and I believe these words have saved my life many many times throughout the years.
Thank you Ms Parent for your courage and wisdom in dealing with this psychopath -- you're a role model.
Yeah, a role model for dizzy suicidal would-be female private detectives.
@@gailjarvis2592 She was actually very adept at playing him and keeping her presence of mind in the face of his instability (psychopath stare).
Most people, men & women, cannot do what she did and should not attempt it obviously. She clearly has some facility staying about her wits around deranged people.
@@gailjarvis2592 she got him arrested. That “Dizzy female private detective” is better than the cops of entire Ottawa.
@@gailjarvis2592 He was sweating but she wasn't...she was busy maneuvering him for her purposes. He was the dizzy one giddy with greed.
Sociopaths are at some level profoundly dumb...short term thinking and extreme measures that have a high cost appeal to them when simpler/smarter measures would be optimal.
“Oh your a snitch, how brave and bonus you get time off your sentence. Oh you killed a hooker high on coke. I love you let me give you all my money.” And being murdered never crosses her blind eyes?
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
Stop repeating every 5 minutes
Unfortunately, magical thinking for some women is the order of the day. The majority are women who lack critical thinking skills. When I heard "justice advocate" that really was a big red flag. The first three letters of convict is "con".
I can't even imagine what she saw in this monster. I would rather be a lonely then be with a killer. I love myself way to much
😁😁😁😁
What a brave woman, she played a dangerous game.
She was a fool and they used her bizarre desire to "save Louise" (now a corpse) by risking becoming one herself. This was twisted. And watching the re-filming her at the site was creepy. This over-the-hill "new" private investigator (out of community college?) is going to get herself fired up and killed. Say, didn't this psychopath wonder what she was doing carrying her PURSE? Yeah, very bright cops. First lose them walking in the woods while you "follow" them in a car(!) and then wire her purse. Creepy.
Yeah, I trully admire Marie. And the massage she sent to the killer "How does it feel to be taken by a women". Love it.
Why would she’s even have anything to do with him knowing he killed another woman 17 years prior? Just crazy
Once a killer, always a killer ! Never trust a killer !
Reminds me of the missionary that went to the uncontacted tribe, despite being warned not to, because they attack all outsiders.
Needless to say, he got killed.
I am not saying she had it coming or anything. It's just - never trust killers
Stupid is as stupid does.
It is what it is. If he died with content in his heart then he lived a life that was purposeful to him.
The real question is, was he wrong or are they wrong for doing that? The answer is obvious. Culture doesn't excuse someone to kill another. If culture justifies the bad end means, why do we question or fight what's wrong in the first place?
I think it's different because that killing was justified. He could have killed the tribe with diseases
@@jessyjulie5506 More would have.the tribe with diseases........he the missionary should not have been there he was breaking the law. The tribes men had every right to kill him. Why didnt that missionary try to breech the border security of North Korea or some USA air base or enter a Federal USA prison. He would get shot.
True!!! “I come in peace to change your lives!! Wait... stop stabbing me with your spears....”
Uhm, yea, I’d never date anyone who outside of a speeding ticket broke the law in any way. It just tells you they are deceitful, conniving, untrustworthy people. Never, ever, let your guard down. I’m not saying what happened to this woman was her fault, but knowing this man’s background should’ve told her to stay away!!
Murder is another level of criminality altogether. But look at it this way, the government encourages & rewards murder in the military , including turning recruits against & murdering each other, while those in charge ignore it…And on another note, many young people commit crimes, and that’s the end of it because they grew up. Let’s not crucify people for Ridiculous reasons. And PLENTY of people turn their lives around after a criminal offense.
I'm in a relationship with a felon that I've known since 2013. Amazing father but shitty partner other than buying me the world.. I won't explain his convictions, he's never hurt or murdered any one but you're right- anyone that has more than a dang speeding ticket is trouble and everything you said above. I am a house mom / wife and don't know how to get out. I'm miserable. These people are shit..
He's also a family friend which is how we met. PARTNERS WITH MY DAD. Left him once before bc he cheated and my parents betrayed me and remained close with him..I am stuck. Idk what to do ...
Terrible tragedy she fell for this criminal. RIP she seemed like a beautiful soul.
She came across as a very wounded soul, very codependent. She put other people's lives at risk by helping to get him out of prison early, enabling him, and literally refusing to believe he could do any wrong. I consider that dangerous.
@@VioletJoy I agree 100%
@@VioletJoy She wasn't intentionally dangerous. Girls are groomed to have no boundaries by the culture and the family system. Beauty and the Beast anyone?
Red flag spotting in human behavior and learning about manipulation/emotional abuse is key and is largely done by domestic violence advocates and feminists relatively recently (decades) and you see how much push back that has even in the comments where some incels blame feminists for setting women back 🙄. Clearly feminists haven't done enough.
Going to see an ex boyfriend over weekend is never a good thing. Living with one man going to see another for the weekend.