Wunderbare Dokumentation, über einen komplexen Künstler, der noch das erhabene Bild der Musikwelt vertrat und höchste Achtung von den Sängern und Orchestern genoss.
Re: Bohm’s alleged ‘Nazism’. I’ve heard so many stories about the behaviour of Astro-German musicians in the 30s and 40s and I’m hesitant to believe any of them. I don’t think people who have never lived under a totalitarian regime have earned the right to criticise the actions of those who have.
I agree completely - far too many people have raced to judgement on Böhm, Karajan, Strauss and others - the fear under which these people lived their lives is, thankfully, unimaginable to us today.
@@andreaguarino8207 Who are you to proclaim such a thing! You may well say that you would act more nobly under a totalitarian regime by rejecting pervasive dogma, but I very much doubt so -- fear alone would drive you to conformity. Böhm, too, in being one of the most influential (and I dare say prolific) conductors of the 20th century has had a huge positive artistic influence by faithfully extending the grand (Austro-Gernman) tradition established by our predecessors. "One of the worse [sic] human being [sic]" -- I don't think so!
@@mercedes932 Conformism is a singularly powerful compulsion, completely independently of what it dictates in any particular era. And not so easily recognized.
I really enjoyed listening to this interesting and fascinating man! What an amazing career in music, he will always be a true icon in the world of classical music.
Bohm was a great musician and was very fortunate to have had the great German conductor Bruno Walter's generous support as a young man just learning his trade.
Hi, would you have a separate subtitle file please? Or something I could use to translate the subtitles? It's for educational purpose. Thanks in advance
Strauss wollte immer wieder die Menschen schocken wenn ihm eine Frage oder Aussage nicht passte. Als ein Kritiker sich irritiert über die, damals neu komponierte, Elektra zeigte entgegnete Strauss: Ja mei, wenn a Mensch daschlang wird kann i koa Violinkonzert spuin lassn!
And Wagner ? Only three words on the Neue Bayreuth ? While Böhm left us the most exciting complete of the "Ring" (1966-67) with Nilsson, Windgassen, Adam, Brouwenstein, Greindl, Neidlinger, King, Rysanek ! Nothing on "Tristan" with Birgit Nilson and Jon Vickers at Orange? A little disappointing, despite a lot of interesting things.
I'm wondering how few symphonic conductors of the Austro-German school did not start from an operatic, or otherwise vocal, background. Furtwängler and I think Nikisch, perhaps coincidentally.
@@leoploner8929 I think either FM CLASSIC or GRAMMOPHONE magazine asked current Conductors which 3 Conductors from the past most influenced them. Kleiber was listed all over the place. Kleiber and Bernstein. Unfortunately, I don't remember seeing Böhm.
Bohm never actually studied Conducting? And even beat 4/4 wrong in the beginning?? I'll bet he picked up much more from Bruno Walter than he mentioned.
alexger85 I met him once & you are right. He was also open... for instance, about his failed marriage to Christa Ludwig... even about Fritz Wunderlich’s fatal accident in 1966.
@Schöneberger Must have written that in the middle of the night. Sorry. It happened in the hunting lodge of basso profundo Gottlob Frick. Walter Berry told me that Fritz had seen the warning on the stairway, but had drunk a few glasses of wine & hence forgot about it. He also hadn't redone his boot laces. He'd telephoned his wife Eva & said he was tired. Voilà.
One rather important detail that isn't "remembered" in this video memoir is Böhm's support for Nazism, which proved helpful in advancing his career during the 1930s and early 40s.
Documentaries about John Wayne don't mention that he voted for Richard Nixon, and thus was partly responsible for the mass bombings of Vietnam and the Watergate scandal. Many american actors, artists and musicians you like were members of organisations of that country and supported their government at that time. Same with many East Block ones. My point is that you can't choose where and when you were born, and you can never have hindsight beforehand. Personally, I hate when politics, religion or sexuality issues take away reasons for liking music and art.
@@Gumbypotty Comparer Truman et Nixon.. . avec Hitler ?....c'est VRAIMENT absurde . J'ai de l'admiration pour Truman et Nixon. Votre argumentation....est si faible que je ne la discute même pas.
@@southfloridaarcheryguy114 A person who both embraced Nazism and benefitted from it, and moreover never took responsibility for his behavior, is not someone worthy of admiration.
When people are successful in their professional lives, do we then forgive them every degree of self-complacency? Disgusting personality. 32:34 "Es wurde das Foyer gerettet (beim Brand der Wiener Oper), weil ich die Idee hatte, blablabla." Dirigent mit Beamtenseele, Mensch ohne jede Selbstdistanz.
@@tgv3000 Gleich allen Menschen. Erinnerung ist von Natur aus immer selektiv. Das ist der Charakter der Erinnerung. Sollten übrigens alle jene, die ihn von 1957 bis zu seinem Lebensende ausgezeichnet haben, geirrt oder Nazis gewesen sein? Auch die Franzosen?
You know what really induces throwing up? People who find themselves better from a moral standpoint without taking into account historical circumstances (albeit without justifying the behavior of people). I think I just threw up.
@ waltervonstolzing 13 Hören Sie lieber zu, was Dr. Karl Böhm uns kenntnisreich zu sagen hat. Und lauschen Sie den Musikausschnitten. Dann haben Sie auch keinen Brechreiz mehr, der ja von keinem guten Allgemeinzustand zeugt.
41:30 exzellenter Wozzeck ❤Walter Berry , unvergesslich Klingsor 1982 in Wien
Wunderbare Dokumentation, über einen komplexen Künstler, der noch das erhabene Bild der Musikwelt vertrat und höchste Achtung von den Sängern und Orchestern genoss.
Hahahahaha er war ein furchtbarer Dirigent und ein Mobber.
Re: Bohm’s alleged ‘Nazism’. I’ve heard so many stories about the behaviour of Astro-German musicians in the 30s and 40s and I’m hesitant to believe any of them. I don’t think people who have never lived under a totalitarian regime have earned the right to criticise the actions of those who have.
I agree completely - far too many people have raced to judgement on Böhm, Karajan, Strauss and others - the fear under which these people lived their lives is, thankfully, unimaginable to us today.
Judt read this nazis articles about the unhealthyness of the jew Mendelssohns music The worst kind - Mitläufer!
Böhm was one of the worse human being. Now he pays for what he did
@@andreaguarino8207 Who are you to proclaim such a thing! You may well say that you would act more nobly under a totalitarian regime by rejecting pervasive dogma, but I very much doubt so -- fear alone would drive you to conformity. Böhm, too, in being one of the most influential (and I dare say prolific) conductors of the 20th century has had a huge positive artistic influence by faithfully extending the grand (Austro-Gernman) tradition established by our predecessors. "One of the worse [sic] human being [sic]" -- I don't think so!
@@mercedes932 Conformism is a singularly powerful compulsion, completely independently of what it dictates in any particular era. And not so easily recognized.
I really enjoyed listening to this interesting and fascinating man! What an amazing career in music, he will always be a true icon in the world of classical music.
Bohm was a great musician and was very fortunate to have had the great German conductor Bruno Walter's generous support as a young man just learning his trade.
I love Berry's Austrian accent
Very convincing😅😅
Wunderbar! Unglaublich........Danke, phantastisch.
Ein reinrassiger Nazi, ein richtiges Arschloch, wie alle die ihn bewundern. Arschlöcher oder Idioten.
Thank you so much for this!!
15:00 what a cast ......Ludwig Berry Janowitz Schreier.......only Mrs Janowitz still alive
Thanks a lot ❤ real excellent documentary
Should be titled "Ich erinnere mich" (Dr. Karl Böhm) is translated as "I remember", not "I remember Dr. Karl Böhm".
Einer der Ganz Großen ! Danke.
The true-Dr.Professional.
This genuine ultimateity no longer appears.
Diese echte Ultimativität tritt nicht mehr auf.
with Maestro Karajan & Szell.
Hi, would you have a separate subtitle file please? Or something I could use to translate the subtitles? It's for educational purpose. Thanks in advance
15:05 Janowitz / Ludwig / Schreier / Berry 👍 👍 👍
Maria Ewing...the perfect Cherubino
I agree. She sings beautifully and acts the part better than anyone
Really stood out!!
Fantastic but I like many Cherubinos
I find her vibrato too electric in this rendition. Otherwise beautiful.
I agree- outstanding.
Strauss wollte immer wieder die Menschen schocken wenn ihm eine Frage oder Aussage nicht passte. Als ein Kritiker sich irritiert über die, damals neu komponierte, Elektra zeigte entgegnete Strauss: Ja mei, wenn a Mensch daschlang wird kann i koa Violinkonzert spuin lassn!
33:25 Martha Mödl, Anton Dermota in Fidelio 1955
And Wagner ?
Only three words on the Neue Bayreuth ? While Böhm left us the most exciting complete of the "Ring" (1966-67) with Nilsson, Windgassen, Adam, Brouwenstein, Greindl, Neidlinger, King, Rysanek !
Nothing on "Tristan" with Birgit Nilson and Jon Vickers at Orange?
A little disappointing, despite a lot of interesting things.
30 :28 ❤diesen Schluss mit Maria Müller❤
best die zauberflute on record.
I'm wondering how few symphonic conductors of the Austro-German school did not start from an operatic, or otherwise vocal, background. Furtwängler and I think Nikisch, perhaps coincidentally.
Maybe Celibidache is not Austro-German school.
8:52 Mozart Mozart Mozart. ❤❤❤ Bohm
He was not in the cavalry! In his book of memoirs he mentions he was in a reserve supply division and got a whack in the chest from a pack mule!
38:40 Janowitz ❤❤❤
53:25 K A R A J A N
11:45
Wer singt da?
After Karajan, he is my favorite conductor
you know Carlos Kleiber...??
@@leoploner8929 better than you do.
@@mashtali1 I doubt... if you prefer Böhm to Kleiber.. you can't know him
@@leoploner8929 I think either FM CLASSIC or GRAMMOPHONE magazine asked current Conductors which 3 Conductors from the past most influenced them. Kleiber was listed all over the place. Kleiber and Bernstein. Unfortunately, I don't remember seeing Böhm.
@@leoploner8929 Kleiber is overrated
40:17
Schade das er von uns ging
Irgendwann geht jeder.
Bohm never actually studied Conducting? And even beat 4/4 wrong in the beginning?? I'll bet he picked up much more from Bruno Walter than he mentioned.
He conducted Berg operas.
Yes it seems as if there was a live recording of a Wozzeck but I'm struggling to remember.
@@maestroclassico5801 there us a recording of Wosseck at the Met in English.
@@Listenerandlearner870 in English conducted by Bohm??
@@maestroclassico5801 it is on Amazon. There is also one in German.
Walter Berry ist lustig
alexger85 I met him once & you are right. He was also open... for instance, about his failed marriage to Christa Ludwig... even about Fritz Wunderlich’s fatal accident in 1966.
@Schöneberger Must have written that in the middle of the night. Sorry. It happened in the hunting lodge of basso profundo Gottlob Frick. Walter Berry told me that Fritz had seen the warning on the stairway, but had drunk a few glasses of wine & hence forgot about it. He also hadn't redone his boot laces. He'd telephoned his wife Eva & said he was tired. Voilà.
27:30 atonal ? Never
44:50❤😂😊45:30😂😢😮😅😊
One rather important detail that isn't "remembered" in this video memoir is Böhm's support for Nazism, which proved helpful in advancing his career during the 1930s and early 40s.
Documentaries about John Wayne don't mention that he voted for Richard Nixon, and thus was partly responsible for the mass bombings of Vietnam and the Watergate scandal. Many american actors, artists and musicians you like were members of organisations of that country and supported their government at that time. Same with many East Block ones.
My point is that you can't choose where and when you were born, and you can never have hindsight beforehand. Personally, I hate when politics, religion or sexuality issues take away reasons for liking music and art.
@@Gumbypotty Comparer Truman et Nixon.. . avec Hitler ?....c'est VRAIMENT absurde .
J'ai de l'admiration pour Truman et Nixon.
Votre argumentation....est si faible que je ne la discute même pas.
So what?
@@southfloridaarcheryguy114 A person who both embraced Nazism and benefitted from it, and moreover never took responsibility for his behavior, is not someone worthy of admiration.
@@jean-christopheMiquel-ef3ur Truman, der Atombombenabwürfe angeordnet hat, ist völlig vergleichbar mit Hitler, nicht wahr?
In a 1938 publication, he wrote that he had been an admirer of Hitler's and his movement since 1923. After the war, he could not remember any of that.
Karl and hundreds of others.
When people are successful in their professional lives, do we then forgive them every degree of self-complacency? Disgusting personality. 32:34 "Es wurde das Foyer gerettet (beim Brand der Wiener Oper), weil ich die Idee hatte, blablabla." Dirigent mit Beamtenseele, Mensch ohne jede Selbstdistanz.
Bad person great conductor
Andrea Guarino Arrogant and very unemotional conducter....Whatever floats your boat Kleiber, Bernstein Dudamel, any expressive conductor floats mine!!
@@sarahjones-jf4prNo
Genuis hin oder her, mit dieser beleidigenden Art und den zynischen Kommentaren würde der heute mit keinem Orchester wo hinkommen.
a very selective memory
Yes, like many people ... !
@@tgv3000
Gleich allen Menschen. Erinnerung ist von Natur aus immer selektiv. Das ist der Charakter der Erinnerung.
Sollten übrigens alle jene, die ihn von 1957 bis zu seinem Lebensende ausgezeichnet haben, geirrt oder Nazis gewesen sein? Auch die Franzosen?
He does not remember correctly.
@ Michael Schlechtriem
Wer kann das schon!?
Karajan war nicht minder Nazi als Böhm
Can’t get by the Nazi salutes
He denounced Jews musicians. Great Musician but the worst man ever
Long live Aryans !
wieviel Werbund noch? Unanständig!
Ein Opportunist ohne Moral. Zum kotzen
You know what really induces throwing up? People who find themselves better from a moral standpoint without taking into account historical circumstances (albeit without justifying the behavior of people). I think I just threw up.
donprudenzio Maybe you are right
Why don't you all pathetic hypocrites bust some balls about the vassals of the USSR and Stalin instead?....
ein Musiker ersten Ranges
@ waltervonstolzing 13
Hören Sie lieber zu, was Dr. Karl Böhm uns kenntnisreich zu sagen hat. Und lauschen Sie den Musikausschnitten. Dann haben Sie auch keinen Brechreiz mehr, der ja von keinem guten Allgemeinzustand zeugt.