Here is my breakdown of the plot and ending for Denis Villeneuve's Dune. This marks the start of many Dune videos coming over the next few weeks on my channel. Speaking of which, I've just uploaded a video essay on why the ending of the film is perfect: bit.ly/3joYxmo
@@thatbigfella YOU GOT IT IN ONE. The Lynch movie is "Crazy". WTF moments regularly throughout the whole thing right to the very end. Dune 2021 is INSTANTLY forgettable.
I agree with you! I spent $11 on the first viewing! Was excited and stunned by it. Decided to check out the IMAX format @$18. All told $29 on one movie ! Which I haven’t done in years! Totally worth my time and money ! Heck may see it a 3rd time…but maybe during a matinee which is my area is around $8z
@@bigbitehood1353 don’t have HBO max besides I can’t fit a 50 foot tall screen in my 10 foot ceiling house. Would rather to these “event” movies at a theater first. This might be the second movie I’d seen at a theater in 1.5 yrs due to Covid. It was unfortunate to have only seen Tenet on my TV. That said, I’m sure Dune will be on Netflix by the time part 2 comes out ! Lol
Dr. Yueh is an Imperial Suk doctor which is not explained in the movie at all. They were incredible doctors and their mental conditioning supposedly prevented any betrayal of patients or the possibility of taking a human life. The diamond tattoo is a sign of Yueh's completed training as a Suk doctor. For him to betray the House Atreides is an unthinkable event in the minds of the Duke and his family in the book.
A few seconds before the Gom Jabar scene, we can see Paul rubbing his neck at the very spot of the needle. Which could then signify and reinforce the birth of his clairvoyance and his vision at this crucial period transcending time and space, which he already knew without really knowing what was going to happen. It's a detail that I find very effective on Paul's future powers.
@14:34 The line "I recognize your stride old man" of Paul close to the harvester, seconds before Gurney grab him and put him on his feet as the worm is getting close, is related to the previous scene between Gurney and him just before they sparing. Paul recognizes the stride of Gurney when he come in the training room. Later at the beginning of the fight he call him "Old Man".
It's a really clever line. He's also talking to the worm, which the Fremen call 'old men of the desert' in the books. Paul does not have this vocabulary, nor has he seen a worm before, but his prescience makes him feel a familiarity with the worms he has not yet developed.
@@yanngoffin2073 Well in the book it is Thufir who tells Paul not to sit with his back to the door and after Paul says he would know Thufir thinks: "Yes he probably could". What is missing in the movie and quite understandably is the fact that Paul was trained as a mentat and was just made aware of the fact. He was being prepared to be a human computer.
@@lukewilliams7075 Gurney face only Harkonnen on screen. WE only sée Duncan facing Sardaukar one on one. Harkonnen Wear black armor, Sardaukar are in white/cream armor
The beauty of this film is Director Villaneuve's use of minimalism in the presentation of exposition and the historical backgrounds of this vast fictional world. Some will complain that many of the central side characters of Herbert's novel were given short shrift, (Gurney, Thufir Hawat, Piter DeVries), and in a way they are right when you consider how much attention they are given in the book,. However, the central focus (in both the book and the film) must rest on Paul and his relationship with his mother, the Bene Gesserit, Lady Jessica. At it's core, Dune is the story of a heroes journey (as flawed as he will become in the second half of this two film work), the main focus must always be on him (a great parallel to DUNE is LAWRENCE OF ARABIA-another fascinating heroes journey about a flawed deity) The side characters are just that, peripheral characters that are there to help propel the hero forward, later to emerge as changed by the events of this first film as Paul is a we watch him. Simplicity, in the film, is the name of the game, and aside from the 5 minutes of exposition that is heard by Chani (in voice-over) at the start of the film, there really isn't much else we need to know that Villaneuve won't present to us visually in certain spots during the movies run time. Personally, I don't need a half hour of film time devoted to the pages of description of what a Mentat is. Villaneuve boils the definition of these people down to a lightning speed moment of Thufir Hawat rolling his eyes over white, when Leto asks how much was spent to bring the "Herald of the Change" to Calaldan, and, upon rerolling his eyes, gives a precisely detailed answer of "141.6 Solaris". Villaneuve and the writes , and the performance of Stephen McKinly Henderson, immediately inform the viewer that Thufir is a kind of human computer. Also in the details of the scene is the burgundy colored stain down the middle of Thufir's bottom lip. At first the appearance of the stain would seem like some little flourish concocted by the make-up designer of the film. n actuality, the stain is more of the visual simplicity and slight-of-hand employed by the director and his writing crew. If the viewer is paying full attention, they'll notice that the character of Piter (the Baron's assistant of the Planet Geidi Prime) is not only in a eyes-rolled-over-white trance when Rabban (Dave Bautista) enters the steam room, but also bears the same burgundy colored stain down the middle of his lip. These details are "visual exposition", the way of conveying details in quick time. The red stain on both men's lip signifies to the viewer that both Thufir AND Piter are human computers. But, the visual exposition doesn't stop there. Throughout the film the director builds our awareness to details referring to events and characters that are only given short blasts of verbal representation. Dune is based on a book, and as all cinephiles will say: BOOKS ARE BOOKS, MOVIES ARE MOVIES. The way of telling a story on the page is vastly different to the way the director presents the same story on the screen in visual terms. DUNE is a 500 page book that devotes whole chapters to describing the various worlds, orders and characters that inhabit the writers mind. Had Villaneuve and company decided to present every word and situation described in the book, the film would be an out-of-control mess bordering on a run-time of 24 hours. Simplicity, brought through visual exposition and definition, is what makes this film adaptation of Dune so extraordinary. It moves quickly, yet really leaves no stone unturned. It's an expertly paced, beautifully realized, and finitely detailed adaptation of a book many, including myself, thought was impossible to bring to the screen in a coherent fashion. What we got is, in my opinion, the best film of 2021.
Did you feel like the story made sense and that you got a satisfactory understanding of the world? There is a lot of world building that is only hinted at. But still… it’s there quietly existing in the background. And what were your final feelings on the film? My wife hadn’t read the books and only had a brief intro via TH-cam and she had a hundred questions afterward.
@@TheWayfarerFamily I know you didn’t ask me but I didn’t start to read the books until after the movie came out and I watched it twice, I felt it made perfect sense, but from conversation I was aware the film hid aspects of the book in order to play more on the betrayal from the emperor and house harkonnen! The book however is just so vast and expansive in its vocabulary that I find myself working my brain where some books I’ve read nowadays are somewhat bland in its diction. What did you and your wife think of it?
@@TheWayfarerFamily I personally had never seen the previous 1984 movie, or the 2000’s tv series, or read any of the books. I went and saw this movie in theaters the day it released (ended up watching it again at home on HBO Max because I enjoyed it sooooo much) I was easily able to understand the plot and pretty much everything that was going on throughout the movie. I have since started watching/listening to Dune lore videos and stuff like that to get even more context to things in the movie and Dune universe in general, but I hadn’t done that before watching the movie the first time and I enjoyed it greatly and wasn’t lost at any point. My wife who’s not really into “nerdy” things like this (she’ll watch movies and stuff with me but wouldn’t do it on her own) and she liked it, probably not as much as I did, but she did enjoy it thoroughly and she wasn’t really confused or stuck behind at all during the movie and was able to keep up with it all the way through it!
@@blainejackson2857 awesome. I have watched 3 times (and counting) and am finding it actually better each time. This is a rarity for me to watch a film more than once or twice if really like them. To have the compulsion to watch AGAIN tells me this is something special. It’s nothing to do with it (or any film) being perfect, but deep, nuanced and generally different in conception and execution. I’m loving it as a Dune geek, as a film lover with an auteur-centric leaning. Glad so many new to the world are diving in. So cool. Even the wives of the geeks. 🤘🤘
@@edancarr2305 I have never heard so many people saying they have watched a movie twice at the cinema as for dune!! It was really made for IMAX and it's rewatchable
I just hope it does well so we get the second half. It was very good but seems like it would be somewhat convoluted if you didn't know the source material.
Paul's visions included one where Jamis said "I will teach you the ways of the desert" .. and in a way he did, his death leading to knowledge of the Kynes' -- and Fremen -- secret quanats, securing entry to the sietch where he was taught desert ways. not shown is the friendship ritual after rendering Jamis for his water. Paul shedding tears for the dead at that ceremony cements his place among the Fremen _I am a friend of Jamis_ ...
They could still have the "I was a friend" scene. The movie did end with them taking Jamis' body with them. Perhaps they will have this scene when they arrive at the sietch they are about to travel to. Granted they did already name him so maybe not. Perhaps we will see it in the director's cut.
I am a fan of Dune since around 1974 and read all of the follow on novels. I have also seen both the 1984 film and the 2000 III part series made for Sci-fi TV. After watching the new 2021 film I must say that of all of the different films, the latest comes closest visually to what I imagined when reading this classic so long ago. All of the various films fall short of recreating the actual dialogue of the stories, as well as having changed or omitted scenes that those who are purists are well aware of. I think that considering the constraints of time allowed, budgets, technology and factors known only to the producers, writers, directors and actors involved, it is amazing what has been accomplished so far. Art is a very subjective viewpoint, but then again it wouldn't be art if it was any other way. My congratulations to all involved for the efforts made so far. I have found something to love about this film and all the other attempts. I doubt I could have done better myself. Thanks to all who were involved for such a unique film. I look forward to the sequel.
Omitted from this breakdown: A much bigger driver for demand, I'd think... In addition to its hallucinogenic effects, Melange also prolongs human life and changes human consciousness.
The demand was not its hallucinogenic affects. It gives some people prescience and allows the Bene Gesserit and the Guild to have the amazing abilities that they have. With no spice there would be no interstellar travel, or it would be much more dangerous. Before the guild’s ability to safely fold space due to their spice fueled transformation, many ships were lost. I’d say that’s the #1 reason for its demand.
I'm glad to find someone who has see the same film as me. I agree with everything you say, especially about Jamis as a friend and about the perfect ending for a part one.
Glad you enjoyed as equally man. I'm doing an extended video on that point you make about the ending this week as well. I know we'll be in the minority on this one but yeah like you I thought the ending was perfect. Works as a complete arc for this film but also sets up the journey going forward.
Thank u! A review that understands the ending and the story told. Tired of the all the reivew takes claiming 'there's no real narrative arch to this first part, ends with no resolution, etc etc' It ends with the resolution to Paul's arch throughout the entire film - accepting his fate, actively yet tragically taking steps toward his terrible forseen destiny - while setting up the larger story for part 2.
The scene with Mapes and Jessica has a lot more to it which is clarified in the book. When Jessica says the knife is a 'maker', she is about to say it is a 'maker of death', meaning it is a weapon used to kill people. Jessica is interrupted from finishing however, because as soon as Mapes hears 'maker' she cries out, as 'maker' is what the Fremen call the sandworms (the worms have a god-like status to the Fremen). Mapes cries out like this because, on Arrakis, there is a prophecy of the Lisan al-Gaib (the voice from the outer world) who will bring them to better times, who will arrive with his mother. Jessica seemingly knowing that the crysknife is made from the tooth of a sandworm, and then calling it a 'maker', confirms this prophecy in Mapes' mind. To add to all this, the prophecy of the Lisan al-Gaib was 'planted' among the people of Arrakis by the Bene Gesserit as part of something they call the Missionaria Protectiva, which is their way of planting superstition within more primitive cultures in order to control and influence them for their own needs.
Selusa Secundus is the FORMER homeworld of House Carrino. The Imperial Court of Corrino reside on Kaitain. Selusa Secundas is now used as a vicious prison planet, unless this has been changed in the film. It is not the home of the Emperor and his court, though it is the Carrino's ancestral homeworld, the Carrinos were forced from Selus Secundas and the ruling court was re-established on Kaitain.
I had no single idea of Dune film nor the book but oh my i watched it On IMAX yesterday. And it was phenomenal. It’s epic and visually stunning of a half complete story. Once again Denis Villeneuve and Warner Bros present an amazing film. It’s my best film of 2021 so far. Can’t wait for second installment and yeah WB have basically confirmed the second part.
An awesome cinematic experience. That ending! The fremen riding that sand worm and Hans Zimmer’s score reaching magnificent crescendo was glorious and beautiful.
This, before navigators there was a massive mortality rate among those using the holtzmann drive because of the massive amount of calculations neccesary to safely fold space for which they didn't have computers, thus the navigator with limited prescience was used to see into possible futures and find the one where they don't blow up. Kind of similar to needing a navicomputer to make a hyperspace jump in Star Wars so you don't "fly into a star or bounce to close to a super-nova"
The Spice does not make normal people hallucinate. It is used for many things, and can be taken for pleasure, but in normal people it offers limited prescience. For someone like Paul it works much better, allowing him to see different avenues of the future.
@@LvLdGhost Psst - we're talking about a movie in which the director can't tell the difference between a man and woman for the role of Chani's father, and who blatantly copies Lynch's style of stillsuits while claiming to be faithful to the novel.
The Baron never asked the Duke where Jessica and Paul are, in fact the Baron tells the Duke that they are both dead. Maybe your confusing that scene with the one from the 1984 movie, but I can’t remember how that scene played out, other than the Duke was having hallucinations and thought the Mentat was the Baron, so but the tooth and killed him instead of the Baron, by mistake. Also, Duncan never leaves Paul and Jessica after finding them, and instead is simply in a side room of the research station they are in, when the attack comes, so he goes out into the hallway and closes and seals the door behind him, to fight off the Sadakour so Paul and his mother can escape. Additionally Paul’s visions of the future holy war start overnight while in the tent with his mother, which was before Duncan found them. Not sure where these ideas came from, but you completely mixed up what happens in the tent and in the testing facility, not to mention added in a few extra scenes, such as the thopter battle around Paul and Jessica, Duncan leaving them, finding out Liet is the leader of the Fremen, which we don’t find out, not to mention making it seem like Paul and his mother crash and run into the worm and Fremen immediately afterwards, instead of at least half a day later, etc… One other thing, Jamis is also he shown in the early scene, with Chani narrating, and showing the spice harvester being nighted at night, he’s the first Attacker shown, and as I recall has a large lasrifle.
He also said Yueh inserted the tooth to avenge his wife’s death, despite the fact that literally the entire reason he betrays house Atreides hinges on the fact that he believes his wife is alive and that he will be able to bargain for them to be reunited.
This was a struggle for me to watch. I feel like the writing assumes you know the books - which I don’t - I watched it all , enjoyed the experience but it’s hard to follow . Hence watching this to recap .
@@periversen8486 What was actually going on to be fair . I couldn’t tell you who the main players are or what their motivation is bar having that family wiped out for spice , but why send them there to farm spice if your intention was to kill them all and take back control , it all seemed a little contrived and the whole vision thing just laying bread crumbs to dead ends is just frustrating. I don’t like everything to be tied up in a pretty bow , However, I assume that the fans of the stories are loving it but as I said i don’t know the books and the film did entice me to buy them as there seems to be a lot I am missing.
@@Syntek-Alba I think knowing something about politics and economics might help, because me and my girlfriend didn't read the books or watch any of the old miniseries, but was captivated by the movie until it ended. The visions and dreams layed some hints and showed the development of the character. Dreams are also meant to be confusing and forces your brain to create it's own narrative.
@@periversen8486 I get that , but there were too many points where the visions became contradictory , Paul reacts to his visions like they are nothing one second and then like the world has just fell out from under his feet . THE FIGHT towards the end just had me confused to all hell . He is privvy to information no one else is but chooses to ignore his visions which the whole 1st half made such a big deal of. They seem like they are injected to cause confusion which translates to me that the writer is either being deliberately convoluted or doesn’t know where they are going yet . Which has me worried for the series , However as an experience It was an audio visual lesson , that has me back in my studio working on sound design trying to emulate the wizard Hans Zimmer .
@@periversen8486 I’m going in for a second viewing having new information to help understand a little better , may just be the thing that pulls it in for me .
really enjoyed party one, what pisses me off is that they're holding off part 2 as if its some sort of DLC, not sure if its worth the investment of watching if they wont guarantee part 2
@Stella Hoenheim Would you prefer a 10 minute movie with no "time wasting"? I'd rather let Denis Villeneuve have the time to flesh out his vision and build the world. Part 1 was excellent, no time wasted at all.
don't worry, worldwide interest will guarantee a sequel.... there is no way it will stop after the intro. and comments like Stella Hoenheim's are just a sign of a lack of comprehension, even after watching this narration... lol
Part of the reason this movie worked is because he didn't try to squeeze such a complex novel into 1 movie - would've been impossible to properly build the world with the correct pacing. Let the man work his magic
Dune is thankfully not as bad as I feared, but sadly not as good as I had for hoped either. It's an OK movie, but despite all its flaws, the original is still better.
Many years ago I read Frank Herbert's classic, I recall not being able to put it down and feeling disappointment that it ended. I remember the characters being memorable and having depth as well as a meaningful relationship with Paul. The story was layered and detailed. The movie I just watched was amazing for it's scenery but none of the characters were fleshed out , none of the relationships were developed and the story was presented like cliff notes as though it was assumed that the viewer was familiar with the content and didn't need any background information. Every character seemed shortchanged with a cameo appearance or walk on. It occurred to me by the end that this may have been better presented as a ten or fifteen hour series rather than in movie form.
Why is it so hard for you guys to realize that part one is story building because Dune is such a complex movie and that part two will be where the majority of the character development will happen? It’s so obvious that part one is meant to prepare you for the character’s relationships and developments to their destiny. There were no assumptions. They literally explained everything and the things they didn’t explain, they showed you. You saw Paul’s relationship with his father and mother. You saw Paul say that he isn’t sure if he should be Duke. You saw his father be a moral leader. I don’t know what else needed to happen for you to understand the motives of these characters. You guys are so used to melodramatic and overly expressive emotions that you don’t know how to understand very direct and straightforward personalities.
This is 100% correct. Villeneuve is a cinematic artiste, beautiful looking visuals, but he's no storyteller. He did the same with that other SF classic - Blade runner. And your request for a series, with time to flesh out characters, has already been answered: 'Frank Herbert's Dune' (2000) from Sci Fi channel is a superior telling of the Dune story. It's viewable on TH-cam.
This is a beautiful and powerful movie. But there is a lot of really valuable information left out about the characters. It does seem to be a high level view of the story versus a deep exploration of the characters. I think some of the mystery is in the acting itself because I know the story. This movie makes me wonder about script writing and how decisions are made about what goes on and what doesn't. This story deserves an investment on the level of LOTR.
I did enjoy the movie, but the movie is more character/world building and only ends halfway without conclusion, so I can appreciate those that didn’t enjoy the movie without knowing the book. This would have been better as a series. It’s not too late to do it, but I’m not sure the A listers would be on board.
It would be madly expensive to produce it, even without the A list actors. Also, with a book the size of Dune & it's world building, fitting all the action in one movie, explaining everything about the universe and also building the characters would be impossible, even with this almost 3hr movie some people were left confused about the story.
Apparently, HBO Max is supposed to have a up-coming televised prequel spin-off series to 'Dune' with a focus on the Bene Gesserit (?). *DUNE: THE SISTERHOOD* _"As revealed in June 2019, Legendary Television is also producing a spin-off television series, Dune: The Sisterhood, for WarnerMedia's streaming service, HBO Max. The series will focus on the Bene Gesserit and serve as a prequel to the film. Villeneuve will direct the series' pilot, with Spaihts writing the screenplay and Dana Calvo as showrunner for the series. Villeneuve and Spaihts will also serve as executive producers alongside Brian Herbert, Byron Merritt, and Kim Herbert. However, in November 2019, Spaihts left the series as writer to focus on the sequel film, though will remain on as an executive producer. Diane Ademu-John was hired as the new showrunner by July 2021."_
@10:55 Jessica was in the process of referring to a knife - in the ancient Chakbosa language - as a "Maker of Death". But, is halted after she says "Maker" - the same as a name for Shai-Hulud.
Jessica had intended to say to Mapes that the Crysknife was 'a maker of death' but Mapes immediately took the words 'a maker' to be a reference to Shai-Hulud and she didn't get the rest of the sentence out.
He's the only character in all 6 books, so stay tuned in case Villeneuve does Dune Messiah (but he'll probably fuck that one up, too, for the sake of political correctness).
I just watched dune the other day and wow it is one of my favorite movies ever it wasn't like all the other sci-fi movies it is clean meaning they didn't go over board with the futuristic crap that plagues most sci-fi movies just feels real and true idk just my opinion but if you enjoy escaping life for a cpl hours then dune is for you!
Thank you for this movie breakdown. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I can't wait watch this review as I have no idea when DUNE will be shown in cinemas here in Manila.
downloaded it last night, what a film love the cinematography, read dune 20 plus times over the last 20 yrs, one of my fave books, 2nd fave being children of dune. luved david lynich film but this is so much better, cant wait for part 2
The spice doesn't allow for FTL travel. It gives the navigators the ability to fold space, that is travelling without moving, in a safe manner. FTL existed way before Holzmann, whether you go for the Encyclopedia or the BH/KJA work. He lived in a time where the galaxy had already been explored. I don't understand why people who call themselves Dune experts, cannot understand this basic fact.
You're confused! Guild Navigators (And melange) are used to predict a safe path for the heighliners from point A to point B. The Holtzman effect is what folds space and thereby allows the starships to travel great distances across the universe instantaneously. The connection between faster than light travel and the Holtzman Effect is not explicitly mentioned by Frank Herbert. It is a connection made in the prequel novels by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson.
@@brotherjohnnyxXxX Correct, but it is the Holtzman effect that folds space (travelling without moving), and the navigators limited prescience that finds a safe path. But there is still the issue of the fact that Holtzman was born way into the Galactic Empire, so there must be a preceding FTL before foldspace. This is also mentioned in th encyclopedia.
Thanks for this video, plus I`m really glad I saw and understand so many things by myself and now you confirmed it! I have to say the movie just so resonates in me-music, athmosphere, clothing, all new world-nothing like before, new characters, plot, I love all of it. I can`t understand how it took my heart in many different ways. Such a strong emotions and deep love. The tension in crenes, the characters, the good/evil. I agree this is a masterpiece, I`ve already seen it 4 times. I even went to cinema for this movie and I had 3 months old baby at home. I felt gulty but I just had to see it.
Hey Cortex ! I always wondered what's the ambient music you use at 12:40 ? You've used it in many other vids and it's really atmospheric . Thx for the great video and keep up that remarkable work ! 🤘
Hey man this is the track I use. Because I have a licensing with Epidemic sound I can use it in my commentaries. Hope you enjoy. th-cam.com/video/ThYf7Giq09o/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Epidemic
@@CortexVideos That music is ssooo hypnotic ! Love it . There's a great focus in the final shots on Paul's faint but complicit smile after realizing his visions of Chani became real . Like he's secretly attracted to her ? And his mom seeing and witnessing her son growing and maturing but with a certain concerned look ? What do you make of that sweet innocent smile and his mom looking concerned in the final shot ?
Paul is not talking to the worms when he said "old man. " What he actually said was "I recognize your footsteps old man. " which is what he's going to say in the future when he gets reunited with Gurney.
Great job. I just want to add that as a Shea muslim, I was shocked by the title Mahdi given to Paul cuz Mahdi is the 12th Imam in our religion which will be the savior of the world . and this make me a nerd to find out more about Dune. I watched ‘Dune and Islam’, which is very helpful on finding out the secrets behind names and symbols. But at the end of the day, I think the author was a genius to use such a unknown branch of Islam to make his scifi a new and remarkable book and as Carl Ernst said it is a scifi and it is not about Islam.
Just saw it and… Yup. Masterpiece. Loved it. Villeneuves best film. Which says a lot. And I am sooo hungry for the rest of the story as far that goes. Did the books justice imo. Can’t wait to see it again, and I loved the ending. Was perfect way to raise the anticipations and finishing on Paul’s emotional first kill was the best way to play into the focus on character development rather than loud boom boom bang. Satisfied. But still hungry.
I have read all of Frank Herbert's books and I saw the first movies(the first one was not a good idea as you had to have read the books to understand it)they made a second one that was very good. I am really interested in seeing this one to see how it compares with the previous ones and the books.
I feel like they screwed people over who didn't read the books. The movie has a lot of unexplained stuff. And the trailers really trick you as to what the movie is like.
Is it a bad thing to not explain everything? Yes, the marketing was focused more on action... and the movie delivers. Maybe just not the "action" you prefer.
@@imagineheavenbookbyjohnbur2480 Explaining everything removes your ability to think for yourself... which the story of Dune emphasizes. One of the many themes is of a mind awaking. You must not have picked up on that. Action can be your Marvel superhero fight scenes, where you know what's going to happen and it's all just flashy. Or you can have action where the stakes create the spectacle. An entire house is completely wiped out in a single night. Duncan shows off his true skill easily defeating 3 Sardaukar in the palace. 19 in the hallway. Action can have scale to it that isn't all a visual spectacle.
I saw it yesterday - Outstanding! I am a Dune fan and have read the book 4 times. Movie was worthy of the book. I could nitpick a few things, but I won't because it was so good!
Dune is by far the most overrated movie released in 2021. Here's a list of 20 movies with a lower rating than Dune on IMDB: 1)Die Hard 1 2)Gone With The Wind 3)Harry Potter 4)Rocky 1 5)Raging Bull 6)The Great Escape 7)Platoon 8)Indiana Jones 9)Jurassic Park 1 10)Scarface 11)Blade Runner 12)Wolf of Wall Street 13)Kill Bill 14)Catch Me If You Can 15)Casino 16)There Will Be Blood 17)Ben Hur 18)Mad Max 19)Monty Python 20)Batman Begins In addition, it's rated higher than most of the biggest kid's movies of all time. I encourage all of the Dune fanboys to convince me that Dune will be a classic like some of the movies on this list. Personally, I watched Dune and will never watch it again, but I could watch some of the amazing movies on this list once a year for the rest of my life. I don't think Dune even compares to some of the movies on this list. Do you know why Dune has such a high rating? I certainly do. It's because fanboys give 10/10 ratings, which means they think Dune is a PERFECT movie. Perfect cast, perfect screenplay, etc. Well, I strongly disagree. This is a perfect example of why ratings are absolute BS. I can't wait to hear a ridiculous reply from a delusional Dune fanboy.
What would have happen if the doctor said "this poison will fill the room in 2 seconds. You dont need the baron in kissing distance, and dont act shady so baron doesn't activate his shield"
Well, the movie ended by Paul accepting his faith as the kwisatz haderach. Which has much deeper implications... Being a messiah to the Fremen is partially irrelevant but comes with the same birth-right.
One of cinema s masterpieces!!! Just watched for the third time, and still blows my mind!!! Kudos to the writers, director, actors and crew; they've all created, a magnificent piece of pure sci-fi cinema!!!
I don't how to even describe what I just watched... never seen anything like it so no comparison but I loved every second! Worth the wait doesn't even do it justice... I can watch this now on the way home! I feel a dune 2000 pc skirmish continuation on the cards when I get in... "worm sign!"
Thank you for this video and the style it was done in. it was effective on conveying plot but not visual story. I have not seen movie but was dying to learn more about the structure of the story, and you have done this in non spoiler way ( sorta). Thank you.
@@karl2405 because I was jonesing to see video and had hard time trying to wait. Also that I did not read books so this is a way to get more background info and still, to me, not spoil it...
nice narration mate, well done and very helpful for those who haven't read the book.... even though i got the storyline after the first view i will watch the movie a few more times in order to be prepared for the sequel.... edit: and of course due to its excepionnel cinematic craftsmanship....
A lot of people are referring to Paul as a Gary-Stu. I don't think this is accurate. He is fallible, he earned what he has in training with the bene geserit breeding aside. They all can technically get mentat training, or to become a soldier, all women can technically become bene gesserit, Paul lost against Gurney and then tied with him in fighting, so he's not perfect. I think Paul already has training in the Weirding way so he can control his reflexes with lighting fast movements but he later gives that to all the Fedaykin too. Having advantages over your opponent alone does not make you a gary-stu and if you say he's a God, technically he's not yet. The only time Paul is actually being threatened in the film is with the gom jabbar and his fight with Jamis. He merely had an advantage over the Harkonnen in the Ornathopter and over Jamis when disarming him, was just lucky with the hunter seeker, had no shield or weapon and Mapes saved him because it changed target, and Paul was just training with Gurney where Gourney won. I notice that Gary-stu's or Mary-sues, they never earn anything, don't really fail, don't lose tests or not know the answer. This simply doesn't apply to Paul, and most importantly he is imperfect, has flaws, doesn't always overpower other characters. In fact a ,ajor point of Dune is that he's seen as a savior but this is just a thing placed by the bene gesserits as they go about creating something similar. I mean the Fremen even have a reverend mother sayyadina, and they are all bene gesserits. It's almost like bene gesserits are as important to each coulture as mentats are to rulers, even though bene gesserits are known to be self-serving.
"all women can technically become bene gesserit" - WTF? No, they cannot. You can't just walk up to the chapterhouse and fill out an application. Most BG are born into the organization and anyone who comes into it from outside has to be leaps and bounds OUTSTANDING in her abilities and potential. Given the patriarchal nature of the Imperium, this isn't easy.
@@Shan_Dalamani Well I guess if you decide I was saying that it's so easy anyone can do it, that must be what I was saying and not that any woman that has spent her whole life training could do it. Like astronauts could come from anywhere, and obviously they have to train very hard and the best rise to the top. So I fail to see how what I said is wrong.
@@biff647019 You are missing the point entirely. The Bene Gesserit, if they want you (assuming you're female), THEY will recruit you. Or they will assign a Breeding Mother to conceive you. At birth, you're separated from your birth mother and trained and taught and mentored by other BG. YOU do not just walk into a Chapterhouse and fill out a job application. That isn't how it works, or at least not how it did through most of that organization's history - which began long before the Butlerian Jihad, in spite of what those two idiots wrote in the nuDune novels. They will train people, possibly accept people if they consider them good enough - human enough (I wonder if Jessica considered putting Farad'n through the Gom Jabbar test... I don't recall that ever being mentioned in Children of Dune).
@@Shan_Dalamani So you said what I said, they will accept people if they consider them good enough. I fail to see the disagreement. Plus, isn't the purpose pf the breeding program to create the quizat haderach? So not all of them have to be borne into it, just the ones whose genes are crucial. The best of the best will be recruited and be subservient or serve less genetically crucial roles. What's Gaius helen mohiams genetic importance?
@@biff647019 Oh, please. Do you seriously think that the entirety of the Bene Gesserit's time and resources were put toward producing the Kwisatz Haderach? Of course they weren't. Mohiam has no relevance for the KH program, other than ordering Jessica to conceive a son with Duke Leto, if in fact she's the one who gave Jessica that order.
The Box of pain is not activated by The Reverend Mother's power that she's pouring into it; rather it's a forbidden device produced by IX, and is of their design. She activates, and deactivates. Her scream is her empathy and frustration that Jessica could produce a son that can thwart their schemes.
There's loads of bits in this breakdown that weren't it the dodgy copy i got. Which hypes me even more for Thursday. Brilliant breakdown Cortex bro. Respect.💯👊🏽
I got a pristine copy 1 week ago equivalent to the quality that HBO MAX will have tonight. Ya'll gotta get better sources. They're out there. I've already seen the shit 5 times and hell, I'm about to watch it again right now!
@@jackspratt7264 yeah bro, I've been sat on this shitty copy for about a month got a spot on copy with subtitles and off to cinema tomorrow. Even the shitty copy i absolutely loved it.👌🏽
Very good. Only one mistake. The current homeworld of house Corrino (at the time the film takes place) is NOT Selusa Secundus. Yes, this planet WAS the original homewold of the Corrino's but, according to the book, the stronger and more dangerous the Sardaukar became, the more impossible it was for House Corrino to feel secure living there. House Corrino relocated to the planet Kaitain, leaving Selusa Secundus to the Sardaukar and to become a military base. As shown, correctly in the film, Selusa Secundus has now been shifted into a training ground for new and old Sardaukar soldiers.
I must have been the only person in the entire theater who did not enjoy Dune. I understand that people are falling in love with the setting, but the characters are so incredibly flat and one dimensional that it ruined the entire thing for me. The "epic" battles and grand scope of things mean nothing if you don't care about who is in them. I'm genuinely baffled at how anyone could have become THIS invested in this movie. What am I missing here? Is the setting just THAT good? Good enough to excuse such bland characters and exposition? Good enough to excuse the incomplete story? To whoever reads this, I'm genuinely curious about your thoughts. I want to like this movie. I'm trying to convince myself that it's good. But I just haven't seen anything that has done so.
I did not relate to the protagonists on a personal level, but on a universal one. It felt epic to me, bigger than life (which again speaks to all of us).
I concur with your assessment. I've watched this woeful celliod adaptation, twice, back to back, and with the exception to a couple of interpretations in regards to carryalls, thopters, and costume design, there will not be a third. Part two holds no interest even by these examples, because as you stated the story line has been skewed beyond comprehension to the knowledgeable reader. At 63 years of age and avid reader of all things Herbert l have no hopes of ever seeing a version that holds true to nuances of character that in essence tells the story as written.
I love how Jessica, just like in the book, clearly wanted to say more than "A maker" to Mapes (A maker of death was what she wanted to say). I don't like how shields don't seem to do anything during Duncan's last stand - all stabs are quick, but still penetrate the shields.
Yeah it seems like they changed the shields up slightly to where they just slow fast projectiles/strikes instead of deflect them. If you will notice also in the scene where Yueh darts Leto the dart is just significantly slowed. I don't think it's a massive deal as long as they retain the explosive reaction of lasguns and shields (which I think they did mention but didn't show).
@@rushthezeppelin I actually loved the projectiles - they seemed to be designed against shields (bombs slowing down, darts being slowed down as well), and were a nice addition to the lore - plus it really gives some cool shots such as Duncan deflecting the slowed down dart. But it's really the sword stabs that I can't wrap my head around!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek ha turns out I missed a detail. There are apparently slow darts in the dune universe specifically designed to penetrate shields. The are often employed by the Sardukar.
Here is my breakdown of the plot and ending for Denis Villeneuve's Dune. This marks the start of many Dune videos coming over the next few weeks on my channel. Speaking of which, I've just uploaded a video essay on why the ending of the film is perfect: bit.ly/3joYxmo
Have you watched Lynch Movie.
Now tell me this is better.
I DARE YOU.
@@dinxruntings Way better
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Each to their own...eh
@@dinxruntings the Lynch movie is crazy, half of it is nothing like the book
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YOU GOT IT IN ONE.
The Lynch movie is "Crazy".
WTF moments regularly throughout the whole thing right to the very end.
Dune 2021 is INSTANTLY forgettable.
i find it more enjoyable on 2nd viewing, i'm broke but i'll probably go for the 3rd
I agree with you! I spent $11 on the first viewing! Was excited and stunned by it. Decided to check out the IMAX format @$18. All told $29 on one movie ! Which I haven’t done in years! Totally worth my time and money ! Heck may see it a 3rd time…but maybe during a matinee which is my area is around $8z
Its on HBO till Thanksgiving
@@bigbitehood1353 I know but watching Dune on HBO is a literal crime. Theater is the way to go
@@bigbitehood1353 don’t have HBO max besides I can’t fit a 50 foot tall screen in my 10 foot ceiling house. Would rather to these “event” movies at a theater first. This might be the second movie I’d seen at a theater in 1.5 yrs due to Covid. It was unfortunate to have only seen Tenet on my TV. That said, I’m sure Dune will be on Netflix by the time part 2 comes out ! Lol
Someone send this man their HBO login
Dr. Yueh is an Imperial Suk doctor which is not explained in the movie at all. They were incredible doctors and their mental conditioning supposedly prevented any betrayal of patients or the possibility of taking a human life. The diamond tattoo is a sign of Yueh's completed training as a Suk doctor. For him to betray the House Atreides is an unthinkable event in the minds of the Duke and his family in the book.
A few seconds before the Gom Jabar scene, we can see Paul rubbing his neck at the very spot of the needle. Which could then signify and reinforce the birth of his clairvoyance and his vision at this crucial period transcending time and space, which he already knew without really knowing what was going to happen. It's a detail that I find very effective on Paul's future powers.
@14:34 The line "I recognize your stride old man" of Paul close to the harvester, seconds before Gurney grab him and put him on his feet as the worm is getting close, is related to the previous scene between Gurney and him just before they sparing. Paul recognizes the stride of Gurney when he come in the training room. Later at the beginning of the fight he call him "Old Man".
It's a really clever line. He's also talking to the worm, which the Fremen call 'old men of the desert' in the books. Paul does not have this vocabulary, nor has he seen a worm before, but his prescience makes him feel a familiarity with the worms he has not yet developed.
@@FarGoneFrom ok I didn't remember that Line in thé Book.
@@yanngoffin2073 Well in the book it is Thufir who tells Paul not to sit with his back to the door and after Paul says he would know Thufir thinks: "Yes he probably could". What is missing in the movie and quite understandably is the fact that Paul was trained as a mentat and was just made aware of the fact. He was being prepared to be a human computer.
During the attack on Arakeen we see gurney kill to soldiers. Were they Harkonnen or Sardaukar?
@@lukewilliams7075 Gurney face only Harkonnen on screen. WE only sée Duncan facing Sardaukar one on one. Harkonnen Wear black armor, Sardaukar are in white/cream armor
I genuinely appreciate all of the ridiculously attractive men that were brought together in this movie. Bless the Maker and His passing...
Meow!!
Yes! Really everyone was hot lol.
Yes that was really important :-/ Actually Gurney was described as ugly in the book with a huge scar. But these days people are so shallow.
The baron. Mmmff ❤
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The beauty of this film is Director Villaneuve's use of minimalism in the presentation of exposition and the historical backgrounds of this vast fictional world. Some will complain that many of the central side characters of Herbert's novel were given short shrift, (Gurney, Thufir Hawat, Piter DeVries), and in a way they are right when you consider how much attention they are given in the book,. However, the central focus (in both the book and the film) must rest on Paul and his relationship with his mother, the Bene Gesserit, Lady Jessica. At it's core, Dune is the story of a heroes journey (as flawed as he will become in the second half of this two film work), the main focus must always be on him (a great parallel to DUNE is LAWRENCE OF ARABIA-another fascinating heroes journey about a flawed deity) The side characters are just that, peripheral characters that are there to help propel the hero forward, later to emerge as changed by the events of this first film as Paul is a we watch him.
Simplicity, in the film, is the name of the game, and aside from the 5 minutes of exposition that is heard by Chani (in voice-over) at the start of the film, there really isn't much else we need to know that Villaneuve won't present to us visually in certain spots during the movies run time. Personally, I don't need a half hour of film time devoted to the pages of description of what a Mentat is. Villaneuve boils the definition of these people down to a lightning speed moment of Thufir Hawat rolling his eyes over white, when Leto asks how much was spent to bring the "Herald of the Change" to Calaldan, and, upon rerolling his eyes, gives a precisely detailed answer of "141.6 Solaris". Villaneuve and the writes , and the performance of Stephen McKinly Henderson, immediately inform the viewer that Thufir is a kind of human computer. Also in the details of the scene is the burgundy colored stain down the middle of Thufir's bottom lip. At first the appearance of the stain would seem like some little flourish concocted by the make-up designer of the film. n actuality, the stain is more of the visual simplicity and slight-of-hand employed by the director and his writing crew. If the viewer is paying full attention, they'll notice that the character of Piter (the Baron's assistant of the Planet Geidi Prime) is not only in a eyes-rolled-over-white trance when Rabban (Dave Bautista) enters the steam room, but also bears the same burgundy colored stain down the middle of his lip. These details are "visual exposition", the way of conveying details in quick time. The red stain on both men's lip signifies to the viewer that both Thufir AND Piter are human computers.
But, the visual exposition doesn't stop there. Throughout the film the director builds our awareness to details referring to events and characters that are only given short blasts of verbal representation. Dune is based on a book, and as all cinephiles will say: BOOKS ARE BOOKS, MOVIES ARE MOVIES. The way of telling a story on the page is vastly different to the way the director presents the same story on the screen in visual terms. DUNE is a 500 page book that devotes whole chapters to describing the various worlds, orders and characters that inhabit the writers mind. Had Villaneuve and company decided to present every word and situation described in the book, the film would be an out-of-control mess bordering on a run-time of 24 hours.
Simplicity, brought through visual exposition and definition, is what makes this film adaptation of Dune so extraordinary. It moves quickly, yet really leaves no stone unturned. It's an expertly paced, beautifully realized, and finitely detailed adaptation of a book many, including myself, thought was impossible to bring to the screen in a coherent fashion.
What we got is, in my opinion, the best film of 2021.
As someone who never read any Dune book and loved the movie. This was super helpful as I had so many questions
Really glad it helped!
Did you feel like the story made sense and that you got a satisfactory understanding of the world? There is a lot of world building that is only hinted at. But still… it’s there quietly existing in the background. And what were your final feelings on the film? My wife hadn’t read the books and only had a brief intro via TH-cam and she had a hundred questions afterward.
@@TheWayfarerFamily I know you didn’t ask me but I didn’t start to read the books until after the movie came out and I watched it twice, I felt it made perfect sense, but from conversation I was aware the film hid aspects of the book in order to play more on the betrayal from the emperor and house harkonnen! The book however is just so vast and expansive in its vocabulary that I find myself working my brain where some books I’ve read nowadays are somewhat bland in its diction. What did you and your wife think of it?
@@TheWayfarerFamily I personally had never seen the previous 1984 movie, or the 2000’s tv series, or read any of the books. I went and saw this movie in theaters the day it released (ended up watching it again at home on HBO Max because I enjoyed it sooooo much) I was easily able to understand the plot and pretty much everything that was going on throughout the movie. I have since started watching/listening to Dune lore videos and stuff like that to get even more context to things in the movie and Dune universe in general, but I hadn’t done that before watching the movie the first time and I enjoyed it greatly and wasn’t lost at any point. My wife who’s not really into “nerdy” things like this (she’ll watch movies and stuff with me but wouldn’t do it on her own) and she liked it, probably not as much as I did, but she did enjoy it thoroughly and she wasn’t really confused or stuck behind at all during the movie and was able to keep up with it all the way through it!
@@blainejackson2857 awesome. I have watched 3 times (and counting) and am finding it actually better each time. This is a rarity for me to watch a film more than once or twice if really like them. To have the compulsion to watch AGAIN tells me this is something special. It’s nothing to do with it (or any film) being perfect, but deep, nuanced and generally different in conception and execution. I’m loving it as a Dune geek, as a film lover with an auteur-centric leaning. Glad so many new to the world are diving in. So cool. Even the wives of the geeks. 🤘🤘
I have just seen dune and I can safely say it’s a masterpiece… I am going again tomorrow and I cannot wait.
Yep.. agreed
i agree, but we need part 2 desperately, i feel incomplete with that open ending of part 1
@@Archonsx 100%! It seems to be doing well in the box office so fingers crossed 🤞
@@edancarr2305 I have never heard so many people saying they have watched a movie twice at the cinema as for dune!!
It was really made for IMAX and it's rewatchable
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I have never heard so many people saying they have watched a movie twice at the cinema as for dune!!
It was really made for IMAX
masterpiece! the visuals are really good. has the makings of a classic
I just hope it does well so we get the second half. It was very good but seems like it would be somewhat convoluted if you didn't know the source material.
@Stella Hoenheim My girlfriend who usually hate sci-fi movies, loved it..
@Stella Hoenheim lmao I didn't know jackshit about the books. But I loved it. Just say it's not for you and move on.
Paul's visions included one where Jamis said "I will teach you the ways of the desert"
.. and in a way he did, his death leading to knowledge of the Kynes' -- and Fremen -- secret quanats, securing entry to the sietch where he was taught desert ways. not shown is the friendship ritual after rendering Jamis for his water. Paul shedding tears for the dead at that ceremony cements his place among the Fremen
_I am a friend of Jamis_ ...
They could still have the "I was a friend" scene. The movie did end with them taking Jamis' body with them. Perhaps they will have this scene when they arrive at the sietch they are about to travel to. Granted they did already name him so maybe not. Perhaps we will see it in the director's cut.
I am a fan of Dune since around 1974 and read all of the follow on novels. I have also seen both the 1984 film and the 2000 III part series made for Sci-fi TV. After watching the new 2021 film I must say that of all of the different films, the latest comes closest visually to what I imagined when reading this classic so long ago. All of the various films fall short of recreating the actual dialogue of the stories, as well as having changed or omitted scenes that those who are purists are well aware of. I think that considering the constraints of time allowed, budgets, technology and factors known only to the producers, writers, directors and actors involved, it is amazing what has been accomplished so far. Art is a very subjective viewpoint, but then again it wouldn't be art if it was any other way. My congratulations to all involved for the efforts made so far. I have found something to love about this film and all the other attempts. I doubt I could have done better myself. Thanks to all who were involved for such a unique film. I look forward to the sequel.
The Hand in the Box scene was awesome.. Especially when he started looking at the Reverend Mothers face , She looked so scared ..
I loved that touch
@@CortexVideos I prefer the Elmo version: "Why are you wearing a blanket on your face?"
Nothing special - it's tghe same scene from the previous film.
Dune was goddamn incredible. I was glued to the screen for the entire runtime and that score was absolutely flawless. Def worth seeing at the theater.
"No man can be asked to do more than their best." Duke Leto
Omitted from this breakdown: A much bigger driver for demand, I'd think... In addition to its hallucinogenic effects, Melange also prolongs human life and changes human consciousness.
Yeah the part of it prolonging life was very interesting
The demand was not its hallucinogenic affects. It gives some people prescience and allows the Bene Gesserit and the Guild to have the amazing abilities that they have. With no spice there would be no interstellar travel, or it would be much more dangerous. Before the guild’s ability to safely fold space due to their spice fueled transformation, many ships were lost. I’d say that’s the #1 reason for its demand.
I'm glad to find someone who has see the same film as me. I agree with everything you say, especially about Jamis as a friend and about the perfect ending for a part one.
Glad you enjoyed as equally man. I'm doing an extended video on that point you make about the ending this week as well. I know we'll be in the minority on this one but yeah like you I thought the ending was perfect. Works as a complete arc for this film but also sets up the journey going forward.
@@CortexVideos totally agree... mind is totally blown right now!
This helped me clearly understand the masterpiece I just watched, thank you so much!
I'm glad it helped and you enjoyed it like myself!
Thank u! A review that understands the ending and the story told.
Tired of the all the reivew takes claiming 'there's no real narrative arch to this first part, ends with no resolution, etc etc'
It ends with the resolution to Paul's arch throughout the entire film - accepting his fate, actively yet tragically taking steps toward his terrible forseen destiny - while setting up the larger story for part 2.
The scene with Mapes and Jessica has a lot more to it which is clarified in the book. When Jessica says the knife is a 'maker', she is about to say it is a 'maker of death', meaning it is a weapon used to kill people. Jessica is interrupted from finishing however, because as soon as Mapes hears 'maker' she cries out, as 'maker' is what the Fremen call the sandworms (the worms have a god-like status to the Fremen). Mapes cries out like this because, on Arrakis, there is a prophecy of the Lisan al-Gaib (the voice from the outer world) who will bring them to better times, who will arrive with his mother. Jessica seemingly knowing that the crysknife is made from the tooth of a sandworm, and then calling it a 'maker', confirms this prophecy in Mapes' mind. To add to all this, the prophecy of the Lisan al-Gaib was 'planted' among the people of Arrakis by the Bene Gesserit as part of something they call the Missionaria Protectiva, which is their way of planting superstition within more primitive cultures in order to control and influence them for their own needs.
Selusa Secundus is the FORMER homeworld of House Carrino. The Imperial Court of Corrino reside on Kaitain. Selusa Secundas is now used as a vicious prison planet, unless this has been changed in the film. It is not the home of the Emperor and his court, though it is the Carrino's ancestral homeworld, the Carrinos were forced from Selus Secundas and the ruling court was re-established on Kaitain.
I can't remember if they described SS as a prison planet or not but they did say that this is where the Sardukar come from.
Also wasn't it just that they had destroyed the ecosystem on SS to the point where they had to move to Kaitain?
Or the Brian Herbert books
Selusa secundas is described as “imperial army planet” in the film
I had no single idea of Dune film nor the book but oh my i watched it On IMAX yesterday. And it was phenomenal. It’s epic and visually stunning of a half complete story. Once again Denis Villeneuve and Warner Bros present an amazing film. It’s my best film of 2021 so far. Can’t wait for second installment and yeah WB have basically confirmed the second part.
An awesome cinematic experience. That ending! The fremen riding that sand worm and Hans Zimmer’s score reaching magnificent crescendo was glorious and beautiful.
I just saw it today! EPIC and a Masterwork.
It will be criminal if the studio does not pick up this Saga under Denis's direction.
I'll be watching this around midnight Thursday when I'm on the way home from the imax :)
Brilliant man, enjoy the film!
@@CortexVideos thank you mate... currently playing dune 2000 and loving the soundtrack... Thursday is like waiting for Xmas day as a kid again
ITS REALLY BAD
Oh you mean like I’m doing right this very moment? Lol movie was so amazing holy shit!
How did u like it??? I saw it Thursday too! Loved it! Haven’t read the books so I loved the review too 😅
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this summary of the new movie Dune and I look forward to receiving more.
Thanks!
Spice does not allow space travel it only makes it safer and faster. A holtzmen generator allows space travel and shields.
This, before navigators there was a massive mortality rate among those using the holtzmann drive because of the massive amount of calculations neccesary to safely fold space for which they didn't have computers, thus the navigator with limited prescience was used to see into possible futures and find the one where they don't blow up. Kind of similar to needing a navicomputer to make a hyperspace jump in Star Wars so you don't "fly into a star or bounce to close to a super-nova"
Read all six books as a young person. Hard to spoil it after that. I'm excited anyway.
The Spice does not make normal people hallucinate. It is used for many things, and can be taken for pleasure, but in normal people it offers limited prescience. For someone like Paul it works much better, allowing him to see different avenues of the future.
Huh? They literally call it a hallucinogen in the movie?
@@LvLdGhost Psst - we're talking about a movie in which the director can't tell the difference between a man and woman for the role of Chani's father, and who blatantly copies Lynch's style of stillsuits while claiming to be faithful to the novel.
The Baron never asked the Duke where Jessica and Paul are, in fact the Baron tells the Duke that they are both dead. Maybe your confusing that scene with the one from the 1984 movie, but I can’t remember how that scene played out, other than the Duke was having hallucinations and thought the Mentat was the Baron, so but the tooth and killed him instead of the Baron, by mistake.
Also, Duncan never leaves Paul and Jessica after finding them, and instead is simply in a side room of the research station they are in, when the attack comes, so he goes out into the hallway and closes and seals the door behind him, to fight off the Sadakour so Paul and his mother can escape. Additionally Paul’s visions of the future holy war start overnight while in the tent with his mother, which was before Duncan found them.
Not sure where these ideas came from, but you completely mixed up what happens in the tent and in the testing facility, not to mention added in a few extra scenes, such as the thopter battle around Paul and Jessica, Duncan leaving them, finding out Liet is the leader of the Fremen, which we don’t find out, not to mention making it seem like Paul and his mother crash and run into the worm and Fremen immediately afterwards, instead of at least half a day later, etc…
One other thing, Jamis is also he shown in the early scene, with Chani narrating, and showing the spice harvester being nighted at night, he’s the first Attacker shown, and as I recall has a large lasrifle.
i just read it in the book and he does ask directly where they are. he even trys to scare the duke saying if he dosen't tell piter might torture him
He also said Yueh inserted the tooth to avenge his wife’s death, despite the fact that literally the entire reason he betrays house Atreides hinges on the fact that he believes his wife is alive and that he will be able to bargain for them to be reunited.
This was a struggle for me to watch. I feel like the writing assumes you know the books - which I don’t - I watched it all , enjoyed the experience but it’s hard to follow . Hence watching this to recap .
I felt like it layed a perfectly clear foundation.
What did you struggle to understand?
@@periversen8486 What was actually going on to be fair . I couldn’t tell you who the main players are or what their motivation is bar having that family wiped out for spice , but why send them there to farm spice if your intention was to kill them all and take back control , it all seemed a little contrived and the whole vision thing just laying bread crumbs to dead ends is just frustrating. I don’t like everything to be tied up in a pretty bow , However, I assume that the fans of the stories are loving it but as I said i don’t know the books and the film did entice me to buy them as there seems to be a lot I am missing.
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I think knowing something about politics and economics might help, because me and my girlfriend didn't read the books or watch any of the old miniseries, but was captivated by the movie until it ended.
The visions and dreams layed some hints and showed the development of the character. Dreams are also meant to be confusing and forces your brain to create it's own narrative.
@@periversen8486 I get that , but there were too many points where the visions became contradictory , Paul reacts to his visions like they are nothing one second and then like the world has just fell out from under his feet . THE FIGHT towards the end just had me confused to all hell . He is privvy to information no one else is but chooses to ignore his visions which the whole 1st half made such a big deal of. They seem like they are injected to cause confusion which translates to me that the writer is either being deliberately convoluted or doesn’t know where they are going yet . Which has me worried for the series , However as an experience It was an audio visual lesson , that has me back in my studio working on sound design trying to emulate the wizard Hans Zimmer .
@@periversen8486 I’m going in for a second viewing having new information to help understand a little better , may just be the thing that pulls it in for me .
I had to see it twice to put all the pieces together. That said this filled in more stuff! TY
really enjoyed party one, what pisses me off is that they're holding off part 2 as if its some sort of DLC, not sure if its worth the investment of watching if they wont guarantee part 2
@Stella Hoenheim Would you prefer a 10 minute movie with no "time wasting"? I'd rather let Denis Villeneuve have the time to flesh out his vision and build the world. Part 1 was excellent, no time wasted at all.
don't worry, worldwide interest will guarantee a sequel.... there is no way it will stop after the intro.
and comments like Stella Hoenheim's are just a sign of a lack of comprehension, even after watching this narration... lol
Part of the reason this movie worked is because he didn't try to squeeze such a complex novel into 1 movie - would've been impossible to properly build the world with the correct pacing. Let the man work his magic
They just announced today that pt 2 is greenlit
I thought there was time waiting too until 40 minutes in and I realized I was watching a fucking masterpiece at work.
Dune is thankfully not as bad as I feared, but sadly not as good as I had for hoped either. It's an OK movie, but despite all its flaws, the original is still better.
Wtf
Lmao
This movie is hardest to fellow to understand it with you explaining it now I understand it can't wait part 2
I want part 2 already!
I watched dune twice, and I feel in love with it both times
Many years ago I read Frank Herbert's classic, I recall not being able to put it down and feeling disappointment that it ended. I remember the characters being memorable and having depth as well as a meaningful relationship with Paul. The story was layered and detailed. The movie I just watched was amazing for it's scenery but none of the characters were fleshed out , none of the relationships were developed and the story was presented like cliff notes as though it was assumed that the viewer was familiar with the content and didn't need any background information. Every character seemed shortchanged with a cameo appearance or walk on. It occurred to me by the end that this may have been better presented as a ten or fifteen hour series rather than in movie form.
Why is it so hard for you guys to realize that part one is story building because Dune is such a complex movie and that part two will be where the majority of the character development will happen? It’s so obvious that part one is meant to prepare you for the character’s relationships and developments to their destiny. There were no assumptions. They literally explained everything and the things they didn’t explain, they showed you. You saw Paul’s relationship with his father and mother. You saw Paul say that he isn’t sure if he should be Duke. You saw his father be a moral leader. I don’t know what else needed to happen for you to understand the motives of these characters. You guys are so used to melodramatic and overly expressive emotions that you don’t know how to understand very direct and straightforward personalities.
This is 100% correct. Villeneuve is a cinematic artiste, beautiful looking visuals, but he's no storyteller. He did the same with that other SF classic - Blade runner.
And your request for a series, with time to flesh out characters, has already been answered: 'Frank Herbert's Dune' (2000) from Sci Fi channel is a superior telling of the Dune story. It's viewable on TH-cam.
This is a beautiful and powerful movie. But there is a lot of really valuable information left out about the characters. It does seem to be a high level view of the story versus a deep exploration of the characters. I think some of the mystery is in the acting itself because I know the story. This movie makes me wonder about script writing and how decisions are made about what goes on and what doesn't. This story deserves an investment on the level of LOTR.
Totally agree. Villeneuve produced a visual spectacle, but as an exercise in storytelling it was hopeless.
@@pmurnion Blade Runner 2049 was incredible and not merely for the visuals, but for the characters as well.
tropters looked absolutely amazing!
Thank you for the breakdown, I saw the movie yesterday and I loved it.
Thank you for checking out the video. Really glad you enjoyed the film as much as I did!
I've booked my ticket to see Dune in Scotland on thursday. I've never been this excited for a dam movie haha
RIGHT! ME TOO...FINGERS CROSSED THAT THIS SHALL BE GOOD 🤞☝️
I did enjoy the movie, but the movie is more character/world building and only ends halfway without conclusion, so I can appreciate those that didn’t enjoy the movie without knowing the book. This would have been better as a series. It’s not too late to do it, but I’m not sure the A listers would be on board.
It would be madly expensive to produce it, even without the A list actors. Also, with a book the size of Dune & it's world building, fitting all the action in one movie, explaining everything about the universe and also building the characters would be impossible, even with this almost 3hr movie some people were left confused about the story.
Saw the movie In IMAX.! Honestly I hope it does make box office so we can get a part two, hopefully a part three as well cuz this is truly amazing. 😍🙏
Not gonna watch until after Thursday, but looking forward to it🙌
No problem Jennifer. Hope you enjoy the film and see you back later in the week.
And that’s why you commented on this video lmao
@@6ixallah well, I know liking and leaving a comment helps the channel remain successful.
God it was so good I can't wait to see part two
its going to be a long long wait at least 3 years
@Boom2x Yes but as a big fan of Dune it was anticlimactic to say the least. No mention at all of Muad' Dib
@@purefoldnz3070 really? Damn that sucks
Apparently, HBO Max is supposed to have a up-coming televised prequel spin-off series to 'Dune' with a focus on the Bene Gesserit (?). *DUNE: THE SISTERHOOD*
_"As revealed in June 2019, Legendary Television is also producing a spin-off television series, Dune: The Sisterhood, for WarnerMedia's streaming service, HBO Max. The series will focus on the Bene Gesserit and serve as a prequel to the film. Villeneuve will direct the series' pilot, with Spaihts writing the screenplay and Dana Calvo as showrunner for the series. Villeneuve and Spaihts will also serve as executive producers alongside Brian Herbert, Byron Merritt, and Kim Herbert. However, in November 2019, Spaihts left the series as writer to focus on the sequel film, though will remain on as an executive producer. Diane Ademu-John was hired as the new showrunner by July 2021."_
Slated for release exclusively in theatres, October 20, 2023.
@10:55 Jessica was in the process of referring to a knife - in the ancient Chakbosa language - as a "Maker of Death". But, is halted after she says "Maker" - the same as a name for Shai-Hulud.
Jessica had intended to say to Mapes that the Crysknife was 'a maker of death' but Mapes immediately took the words 'a maker' to be a reference to Shai-Hulud and she didn't get the rest of the sentence out.
Thank you, great explanation.
Duncan was too good of a character to die so early without much tribute 🥺
He's the only character in all 6 books, so stay tuned in case Villeneuve does Dune Messiah (but he'll probably fuck that one up, too, for the sake of political correctness).
I just watched dune the other day and wow it is one of my favorite movies ever it wasn't like all the other sci-fi movies it is clean meaning they didn't go over board with the futuristic crap that plagues most sci-fi movies just feels real and true idk just my opinion but if you enjoy escaping life for a cpl hours then dune is for you!
Thank you for this movie breakdown. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I can't wait watch this review as I have no idea when DUNE will be shown in cinemas here in Manila.
Thank you Gerry! Hope you enjoy it and fingers crossed you can see it soon man.
@Stella Hoenheim nah, its a masterpiece
@Stella Hoenheim no.
downloaded it last night, what a film love the cinematography, read dune 20 plus times over the last 20 yrs, one of my fave books, 2nd fave being children of dune. luved david lynich film but this is so much better, cant wait for part 2
Glad you had a fantastic time with it!
Go watch it in IMAX if you can, it was made for it.
this film is every part of a masterpiece.......with more to follow.
The spice doesn't allow for FTL travel. It gives the navigators the ability to fold space, that is travelling without moving, in a safe manner. FTL existed way before Holzmann, whether you go for the Encyclopedia or the BH/KJA work. He lived in a time where the galaxy had already been explored. I don't understand why people who call themselves Dune experts, cannot understand this basic fact.
You're confused! Guild Navigators (And melange) are used to predict a safe path for the heighliners from point A to point B. The Holtzman effect is what folds space and thereby allows the starships to travel great distances across the universe instantaneously.
The connection between faster than light travel and the Holtzman Effect is not explicitly mentioned by Frank Herbert. It is a connection made in the prequel novels by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson.
Exactly!
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@@brotherjohnnyxXxX Correct, but it is the Holtzman effect that folds space (travelling without moving), and the navigators limited prescience that finds a safe path.
But there is still the issue of the fact that Holtzman was born way into the Galactic Empire, so there must be a preceding FTL before foldspace. This is also mentioned in th encyclopedia.
Still miss *Brian Eno Prophecy Theme* and *Toto Dune 1984 soundtrack* 😌
Thanks for this video, plus I`m really glad I saw and understand so many things by myself and now you confirmed it! I have to say the movie just so resonates in me-music, athmosphere, clothing, all new world-nothing like before, new characters, plot, I love all of it. I can`t understand how it took my heart in many different ways. Such a strong emotions and deep love.
The tension in crenes, the characters, the good/evil.
I agree this is a masterpiece, I`ve already seen it 4 times. I even went to cinema for this movie and I had 3 months old baby at home. I felt gulty but I just had to see it.
Fantastic video, you clearly explained everything in a way that flowed and made sense to Dune newbies like myself.
I only wish Villeneuve had included the banquet scene....and the water wasting..it woudl have really given the arc more Arakis reality and depth
Hey Cortex ! I always wondered what's the ambient music you use at 12:40 ? You've used it in many other vids and it's really atmospheric . Thx for the great video and keep up that remarkable work ! 🤘
Hey man this is the track I use. Because I have a licensing with Epidemic sound I can use it in my commentaries. Hope you enjoy. th-cam.com/video/ThYf7Giq09o/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Epidemic
@@CortexVideos That music is ssooo hypnotic ! Love it .
There's a great focus in the final shots on Paul's faint but complicit smile after realizing his visions of Chani became real . Like he's secretly attracted to her ?
And his mom seeing and witnessing her son growing and maturing but with a certain concerned look ?
What do you make of that sweet innocent smile and his mom looking concerned in the final shot ?
This is the first movie I have seen in three years, where I wished I would have seen it in a theater
Whoo hooo this movie was a beauty. Keen to go back to the flicks and watch it again
Paul is not talking to the worms when he said "old man. " What he actually said was "I recognize your footsteps old man. " which is what he's going to say in the future when he gets reunited with Gurney.
Great job.
I just want to add that as a Shea muslim, I was shocked by the title Mahdi given to Paul cuz Mahdi is the 12th Imam in our religion which will be the savior of the world . and this make me a nerd to find out more about Dune.
I watched ‘Dune and Islam’, which is very helpful on finding out the secrets behind names and symbols.
But at the end of the day, I think the author was a genius to use such a unknown branch of Islam to make his scifi a new and remarkable book and as Carl Ernst said it is a scifi and it is not about Islam.
Great video, the time of Dune is upon us
It sure is
Just saw it and… Yup. Masterpiece. Loved it. Villeneuves best film. Which says a lot. And I am sooo hungry for the rest of the story as far that goes. Did the books justice imo. Can’t wait to see it again, and I loved the ending. Was perfect way to raise the anticipations and finishing on Paul’s emotional first kill was the best way to play into the focus on character development rather than loud boom boom bang. Satisfied. But still hungry.
is ok not a masterpiece lol
@@brimstonevalar6053 Saw it again today. I would say it is definitely a Masterpiece and Denis V's best film.
It's masterful in every way.
This helped a lot, thanks.
Glad it helped!
I have read all of Frank Herbert's books and I saw the first movies(the first one was not a good idea as you had to have read the books to understand it)they made a second one that was very good. I am really interested in seeing this one to see how it compares with the previous ones and the books.
I feel like they screwed people over who didn't read the books. The movie has a lot of unexplained stuff. And the trailers really trick you as to what the movie is like.
Is it a bad thing to not explain everything? Yes, the marketing was focused more on action... and the movie delivers. Maybe just not the "action" you prefer.
@@jamesmunn576 uh, yes?!
@@jamesmunn576 yeah if you market action and there is not much action then the movie does not deliver.
@@imagineheavenbookbyjohnbur2480 Explaining everything removes your ability to think for yourself... which the story of Dune emphasizes. One of the many themes is of a mind awaking. You must not have picked up on that.
Action can be your Marvel superhero fight scenes, where you know what's going to happen and it's all just flashy.
Or you can have action where the stakes create the spectacle. An entire house is completely wiped out in a single night. Duncan shows off his true skill easily defeating 3 Sardaukar in the palace. 19 in the hallway. Action can have scale to it that isn't all a visual spectacle.
@@jamesmunn576 you read the books didn't you?
About to watch your video. Man I hope it doesn’t spoil the second movie or anything
Edit: awesome video!
I got way to high on weed while watching this movie and freaked myself out🥺😄😂
I saw it yesterday - Outstanding! I am a Dune fan and have read the book 4 times. Movie was worthy of the book. I could nitpick a few things, but I won't because it was so good!
Thanks man! This filled in my understanding of what I just saw.
Dune is by far the most overrated movie released in 2021. Here's a list of 20 movies with a lower rating than Dune on IMDB:
1)Die Hard 1
2)Gone With The Wind
3)Harry Potter
4)Rocky 1
5)Raging Bull
6)The Great Escape
7)Platoon
8)Indiana Jones
9)Jurassic Park 1
10)Scarface
11)Blade Runner
12)Wolf of Wall Street
13)Kill Bill
14)Catch Me If You Can
15)Casino
16)There Will Be Blood
17)Ben Hur
18)Mad Max
19)Monty Python
20)Batman Begins
In addition, it's rated higher than most of the biggest kid's movies of all time. I encourage all of the Dune fanboys to convince me that Dune will be a classic like some of the movies on this list. Personally, I watched Dune and will never watch it again, but I could watch some of the amazing movies on this list once a year for the rest of my life. I don't think Dune even compares to some of the movies on this list. Do you know why Dune has such a high rating? I certainly do. It's because fanboys give 10/10 ratings, which means they think Dune is a PERFECT movie. Perfect cast, perfect screenplay, etc. Well, I strongly disagree. This is a perfect example of why ratings are absolute BS. I can't wait to hear a ridiculous reply from a delusional Dune fanboy.
What would have happen if the doctor said "this poison will fill the room in 2 seconds. You dont need the baron in kissing distance, and dont act shady so baron doesn't activate his shield"
Wonder why the movie left out that Hawat vs Jessica moment. Also the important revelation inside the tent not shown. Maybe in part 2? as a flashback?
Well, the movie ended by Paul accepting his faith as the kwisatz haderach. Which has much deeper implications... Being a messiah to the Fremen is partially irrelevant but comes with the same birth-right.
Well done good video hope you find success with them.
Thanks for the nice words 👍
Great breakdown. I never read the book and didn't like the first DUNE movie that much.
One of cinema s masterpieces!!! Just watched for the third time, and still blows my mind!!! Kudos to the writers, director, actors and crew; they've all created, a magnificent piece of pure sci-fi cinema!!!
Cortex, you must read the Dune Encyclopedia to get some things right in your videos
Movie is UNBELIEVABLE... HOW the hell did they do it?!
Awesome video. More Dune videos would be appreciated
I don't how to even describe what I just watched... never seen anything like it so no comparison but I loved every second! Worth the wait doesn't even do it justice...
I can watch this now on the way home! I feel a dune 2000 pc skirmish continuation on the cards when I get in... "worm sign!"
"Movie sign!!"
Best movie this year
If Part 2 isn't made, this movie will become pointless
Can’t wait for second installment and yeah WB have basically confirmed the second part.
Thank you for this video and the style it was done in. it was effective on conveying plot but not visual story. I have not seen movie but was dying to learn more about the structure of the story, and you have done this in non spoiler way ( sorta). Thank you.
why woud you watch anything before seeing the movie xD you're robbing yourself of the experience bro...
@@karl2405 because I was jonesing to see video and had hard time trying to wait. Also that I did not read books so this is a way to get more background info and still, to me, not spoil it...
Underrated masterpiece
nice narration mate, well done and very helpful for those who haven't read the book....
even though i got the storyline after the first view i will watch the movie a few more times in order to be prepared for the sequel....
edit: and of course due to its excepionnel cinematic craftsmanship....
A lot of people are referring to Paul as a Gary-Stu. I don't think this is accurate. He is fallible, he earned what he has in training with the bene geserit breeding aside. They all can technically get mentat training, or to become a soldier, all women can technically become bene gesserit, Paul lost against Gurney and then tied with him in fighting, so he's not perfect. I think Paul already has training in the Weirding way so he can control his reflexes with lighting fast movements but he later gives that to all the Fedaykin too. Having advantages over your opponent alone does not make you a gary-stu and if you say he's a God, technically he's not yet. The only time Paul is actually being threatened in the film is with the gom jabbar and his fight with Jamis. He merely had an advantage over the Harkonnen in the Ornathopter and over Jamis when disarming him, was just lucky with the hunter seeker, had no shield or weapon and Mapes saved him because it changed target, and Paul was just training with Gurney where Gourney won. I notice that Gary-stu's or Mary-sues, they never earn anything, don't really fail, don't lose tests or not know the answer. This simply doesn't apply to Paul, and most importantly he is imperfect, has flaws, doesn't always overpower other characters. In fact a ,ajor point of Dune is that he's seen as a savior but this is just a thing placed by the bene gesserits as they go about creating something similar. I mean the Fremen even have a reverend mother sayyadina, and they are all bene gesserits. It's almost like bene gesserits are as important to each coulture as mentats are to rulers, even though bene gesserits are known to be self-serving.
"all women can technically become bene gesserit" - WTF? No, they cannot. You can't just walk up to the chapterhouse and fill out an application. Most BG are born into the organization and anyone who comes into it from outside has to be leaps and bounds OUTSTANDING in her abilities and potential. Given the patriarchal nature of the Imperium, this isn't easy.
@@Shan_Dalamani Well I guess if you decide I was saying that it's so easy anyone can do it, that must be what I was saying and not that any woman that has spent her whole life training could do it. Like astronauts could come from anywhere, and obviously they have to train very hard and the best rise to the top. So I fail to see how what I said is wrong.
@@biff647019 You are missing the point entirely. The Bene Gesserit, if they want you (assuming you're female), THEY will recruit you. Or they will assign a Breeding Mother to conceive you. At birth, you're separated from your birth mother and trained and taught and mentored by other BG. YOU do not just walk into a Chapterhouse and fill out a job application. That isn't how it works, or at least not how it did through most of that organization's history - which began long before the Butlerian Jihad, in spite of what those two idiots wrote in the nuDune novels. They will train people, possibly accept people if they consider them good enough - human enough (I wonder if Jessica considered putting Farad'n through the Gom Jabbar test... I don't recall that ever being mentioned in Children of Dune).
@@Shan_Dalamani So you said what I said, they will accept people if they consider them good enough. I fail to see the disagreement. Plus, isn't the purpose pf the breeding program to create the quizat haderach? So not all of them have to be borne into it, just the ones whose genes are crucial. The best of the best will be recruited and be subservient or serve less genetically crucial roles. What's Gaius helen mohiams genetic importance?
@@biff647019 Oh, please. Do you seriously think that the entirety of the Bene Gesserit's time and resources were put toward producing the Kwisatz Haderach? Of course they weren't.
Mohiam has no relevance for the KH program, other than ordering Jessica to conceive a son with Duke Leto, if in fact she's the one who gave Jessica that order.
The Box of pain is not activated by The Reverend Mother's power that she's pouring into it; rather it's a forbidden device produced by IX, and is of their design. She activates, and deactivates. Her scream is her empathy and frustration that Jessica could produce a son that can thwart their schemes.
There's loads of bits in this breakdown that weren't it the dodgy copy i got. Which hypes me even more for Thursday. Brilliant breakdown Cortex bro. Respect.💯👊🏽
Gotta get that theatrical experience man. Glad you enjoyed the video and it helped !
@Rob i was so gagging to watch it, but i honestly can't wait until Thursday my G. Gonna be lit 💯🔥
@Rob yeah bro, you good?? You on any socials my G? 💯👊🏽
I got a pristine copy 1 week ago equivalent to the quality that HBO MAX will have tonight.
Ya'll gotta get better sources. They're out there. I've already seen the shit 5 times and hell, I'm about to watch it again right now!
@@jackspratt7264 yeah bro, I've been sat on this shitty copy for about a month got a spot on copy with subtitles and off to cinema tomorrow. Even the shitty copy i absolutely loved it.👌🏽
great video!!
Great movie. Haven’t read Dune but I hope for a sequel
Great Breakdown!
Still have to read the book ;-)
READ THE BOOKS! THEY ARE EXCELLENT!!!🤘
Very good. Only one mistake. The current homeworld of house Corrino (at the time the film takes place) is NOT Selusa Secundus. Yes, this planet WAS the original homewold of the Corrino's but, according to the book, the stronger and more dangerous the Sardaukar became, the more impossible it was for House Corrino to feel secure living there. House Corrino relocated to the planet Kaitain, leaving Selusa Secundus to the Sardaukar and to become a military base. As shown, correctly in the film, Selusa Secundus has now been shifted into a training ground for new and old Sardaukar soldiers.
I must have been the only person in the entire theater who did not enjoy Dune.
I understand that people are falling in love with the setting, but the characters are so incredibly flat and one dimensional that it ruined the entire thing for me. The "epic" battles and grand scope of things mean nothing if you don't care about who is in them.
I'm genuinely baffled at how anyone could have become THIS invested in this movie.
What am I missing here? Is the setting just THAT good? Good enough to excuse such bland characters and exposition? Good enough to excuse the incomplete story?
To whoever reads this, I'm genuinely curious about your thoughts. I want to like this movie. I'm trying to convince myself that it's good. But I just haven't seen anything that has done so.
I did not relate to the protagonists on a personal level, but on a universal one. It felt epic to me, bigger than life (which again speaks to all of us).
It would work better as a series to me than a movie. If you read the books it would be amazing but I didn't. I liked the tone of the movie though.
I concur with your assessment. I've watched this woeful celliod adaptation, twice, back to back, and with the exception to a couple of interpretations in regards to carryalls, thopters, and costume design, there will not be a third. Part two holds no interest even by these examples, because as you stated the story line has been skewed beyond comprehension to the knowledgeable reader. At 63 years of age and avid reader of all things Herbert l have no hopes of ever seeing a version that holds true to nuances of character that in essence tells the story as written.
Love this. Really. But I'm going to attempt a grammar lesson. Prophecy - Noun; plural, prophecies. Prophesy - Verb; Past tense, prophesied.
I’ve only tried spice once, never again, it’s not for me.
I love how Jessica, just like in the book, clearly wanted to say more than "A maker" to Mapes (A maker of death was what she wanted to say).
I don't like how shields don't seem to do anything during Duncan's last stand - all stabs are quick, but still penetrate the shields.
Yeah it seems like they changed the shields up slightly to where they just slow fast projectiles/strikes instead of deflect them. If you will notice also in the scene where Yueh darts Leto the dart is just significantly slowed. I don't think it's a massive deal as long as they retain the explosive reaction of lasguns and shields (which I think they did mention but didn't show).
@@rushthezeppelin I actually loved the projectiles - they seemed to be designed against shields (bombs slowing down, darts being slowed down as well), and were a nice addition to the lore - plus it really gives some cool shots such as Duncan deflecting the slowed down dart. But it's really the sword stabs that I can't wrap my head around!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek ha turns out I missed a detail. There are apparently slow darts in the dune universe specifically designed to penetrate shields. The are often employed by the Sardukar.