Here is my breakdown of the plot and ending for Denis Villeneuve's Dune Part 2. I've got more Dune uploads to come over the next few weeks, including a spoiler-filled video essay, a biggest questions video and much more. Hope you enjoy it!
My *_FIRST_* assumption is that you are explaining the ending for those of whom have already seen this film. My *_SECOND_* assumption is that it's quite condescending of you to think that some of us need the ending explained. /sarcasm
Immediately failed to mention that inthe book Paul was reverred and respected for killing the great warrior Jamis, and then adopted his children. Instead, Paul 's subjected to a BLM or suburban Parisian ghetto rioting mob barking like dirty dogs. And Chani's character has been completely vandalized. And her riding off into the sunset on a worm as the last scene is a warning that it will be "boss girl" switch in part 3. It's The Force Awakens all over.
Dennis said he wanted to at minimum do a trilogy with Dune covering Dune in 2 films and the third with Dune messiah, so all he needs is decent Dune 2 box office and a greenlight from warner bros and the cast
End of movie, Paul did not tell Chani he would never leave her. He told her he would never stop loving her. A little more powerful statement from him, knowing what he is going to do.
It's because he knows he has to pursue his political ambitions in order for his and his family and friends survival. It was a hard choice for him to make which Villinueve perfectly captured before Paul traveled south on Arrakis. It's also why we see Paul shed a tear when confronted by Chani when he agrees to ride south because he knows he will have to make that difficult decision to not only keep his family name and bloodline moving forward but to also inevitably keep Changing alive. Denis Villinueve did an incredible job telling this story and I CANT wait for Dune Messiah. This movie was so immersive and I can't get it out of my head. I've seen it 3 times already and will gladly see it many many more times. Amazing masterpiece for anyone reading this and hasn't seen the movie
True, I still remember reading Dune Messiah through God Emperor of Dune in high school and I was like... "What on earth am I reading!?" its still amazing stuff but it may be too much for the casual viewer.
This thing can turne INTO a NEVER ending MOVIE scam,lol,like STAR WARS NEVER ENDING,THE GIRL CAN BECOME THE MISSIA AND THE REAL LEADER,LOL HE IS JUST HER ASSISTANT,LOL
I thought the same thing. He really shows his acting ability which shows lots of time it's the role that defines the performance. I thought all the acting was great. You could see Paul taking in the responsibility of what he needs to do and even his walk becomes more confident and mature. Awesome movie!
Just saw the movie today and I have not felt this way ever since watching _The Two Towers_ in cinema 2 decades ago. This movie is, without a doubt, the "Lord of the Rings" of science fiction. 12 out of 10!!! Planning to go watch it again! ☺
bro I feel you! After I watched it I was like, what is this emotions I am feeling right now. It seems so familiar yet so far. And I realized it was the same feelings but better after I was the PLANET OF THE APES 2001 film when I was a little child. So, this means this movie was indeed the best of the best! 12 out of 10! Really good
@@tihseht472no. As a die hard science fiction and lord of the rings fan, you are completely and totally incorrect. Lord of the rings is fantasy. There is nothing Science Fiction about it whatsoever. You are out of your mind. There is literally no use advanced technology, which is a staple of science fiction. Check all the boxes for fantasy: wizards, dragons, monsters, valiant heroes. Seriously, next you are going to tell me that The Notebook is an action adventure film.
@@pralayaryan He directed his command on a singular person in the crowd which was Helen Mohiam who was trying to speak but was silenced by him using the voice.
just came home from watching dune part 1 and 2 in one go at the cinema and I'm fuckin speechless, I read the book after I watched part 1 in 2021 and there were obvious changes but I think this was the best way to adapt the book and paving the way for messiah
It's the complete antithesis. The adaptation is a mess and a joke. And the woke DEI and "girl boss" crap has caused issues. It's a vandalisation.It's another The Force Awakens moment.
@@samanthab1923 I can weigh in here. I read the 1st 3 >25 years ago and jump ship by the 3rd coz it's hard work for a normie (like me). The 1st is good and easy. It's all about power and corruption.
It's been a long time since I felt the vibes of a film like THE LORD OF THE RINGS, after 21 years finally ,,DUNE II is a cinematic masterpiece packaged in a very epic and emotional way... Zimmer really plays an important role in part 2... the scoring is what makes the difference... ONE AND ONLY !!! overall this is masterpiece scifi in modern CINEMA by FAR !!
Great breakdown! I thought the spice harvester attack was one of the best action scenes I have seen in years! Nothing really to explain from it but I thought was awesome.
The harvester attack bothered me by how unnecessary it was. Why hide in the sand, risk your lives when you then laser harvesters from afar or destroy them with homing mines. It was intense and incredibly shot but felt so unnecessary at the same time.
And he needs to destroy the Bene Gesserit's only other current candidate for their Choaen One scheme. He clearly doesn't trust their sisterhood and their motives, so he is taking their goal from them.
I enjoy your commentary truly because you discuss the movie, not necessarily your opinion of the movie which I appreciate greatly. I've heard other commentary and it seems to be more about the commentators opinion of the movie versus the movie itself. So thank you! Enjoyed your commentary
I want to see Messiah incorporate Children of Dune as well. Messiah completes the first book's intent, but Children of Dune completes the entore arc. The idea of Leto taking the path that Paul could not is always intriguing. ...but we can end it before he becomes a half worm god that rules as a tyrant for 3000 years, please.
I just watch the movie this afternoon (28 February). I love what how Villeneuve done with the cinematography of this movie. I really love it, the scaling that show how big the Spice Harvester is, how big the imperium spaceship is, the scaling is perfect. The color grading, the moon, the eclipse, the sunset of Aarakis is so beautiful and it felt so real. How a dessert can be that beuatiful? For Alia, I'm not that disappointed to face a fact that she's still in Jessica's womb. I just kinda disappointed that we don't get enough of her? And i just expect to see more Anya Taylor Johnson Alia not just by one scene, but maybe perhaps like the various of Paul possible future version when she kill Baron Vladimir Harkonenn? Or maybe a future when she sit with Irulan, Jessica and Paul as the emperor in one room? Things like this is i wanted to see from Paul's Vision and Alia. Things that can help us fantasies further for the future film My most disappointment is that we stull haven't had the guild navigator. I don't care if we only get one scene of it, i think it can help the general audience (those who didn't read the book or aware to Dune lore) to understand more the use of spice. I mean Dune is all about spice, but i just don't see how Spice is really use in this movie besidr it got harvested and use in a meal for the fremen. Some things that i really like is that this movie show what Benne Gesserit has done through the generation. Lea Seydoux play a really charming and seducing Lady Margot Fenring. I'm not that expert in Dune Lore, but if I'm not, Atreides culture is to hang the head of living being/things and killed their leader, so i was expected that the head of Vladimir get hang in Paul emperor's room. For the future, i was hope that we can see Irulan get more appreciation from Paul since i love how Florence Pugh play her and it's a kinda waste to not explore her character. I'm sure there's also a big reason that why Villeneuve didn't wanted to show the "History will know us as wives" is so it can build up a romantic tension between Paul, Irulan and Chani. The fact that this movie is close with Chani's face who's rage and confuse is really made the general audience and the book reader to play with their fantasy a bit. Perhaps Paul will have a moral dillema when He realize Chani is pregnant, or Maybe Irulan will pregnant from Paul? I can see there's a chance for it.
@34:35 I disagree that he impulsively agrees to fight Feyd. He knew through his prescience he'd have to fight Feyd that's why he said it was his burden. And impulsive agreement wouldn't be someone's burden. We've been shown up to this point, that Paul b4 the water of life was impulsive sometimes and made a few mistakes. But Paul after the water of life is no longer impulsive and sees the plans with in plans. He crafts his own plan and we are along for the ride.
It was heartbreaking that Paul didn’t even give Chani a head’s up about his decision to marry Irulan. At least in the Lynch movie, he ensures her it’s only a political move, and Jessica comforts her (same in the book). In Dune Part II, she doesn’t get any of that. He springs it on her before taking her people into space. So he breaks her heart and takes her family with him. It’s all kinds of BS.
I mean what was she supposed to expect? She should've known Paul would've needed to marry politically, I also don't know why shes so upset when literally right before Paul proposed the marriage he told her his heart is only for her, so in a roundabout way he actually did tell her
That's one reason I prefer the novel. People who haven't read the novel don't realize how much poetic license Villeneuve took with Frank Herbert's material. I still think it was a good interpretation of the novel.
In the novel "Dune," Chani becomes more of a background character towards the end. She's depicted as someone who fully grasps the complex political schemes unfolding around her and believes that Paul is their messiah. Conversely, in the film adaptation, Chani is given a more prominent and independent role. She is skeptical of Paul, differing from her portrayal in the book. This change in character perspective makes sense considering her enhanced role in the movie. From her viewpoint, Paul appears to be just another oppressor waiting to take control over the Fremen, succeeding the Harkonnens-and her assessment isn't without merit.
I read elsewhere a comment of paul choosing a different timeline. As he has seen what happens in the books and has decided against it. Giving it a good way to show off how different this interpretation of the books to movies. Making it more Denis version of the same story
Great Breakdown just a couple of things at 34:06 Paul tells Chani he will always love her not that he'd never leave her side as his strategic move to ask for the Emporer's daughter hand was already forseen by him. The way he looks at Chani he knew he broke her heart and also his knife fight with Feyd may seem reckless but with his foresight he already knew the outcome.
My only issue with the movie was that Thufir Hawat was cut. His storyline in the second half of the book was one the best things about the book. All they had to do was add on another 10-15 mins to the movie for Thufir.
As much as I adore Thufir as a character, am inclined to favour the director editing out these scenes. They would have to show some body horror torture as well as his subtle sabotage efforts vs the harkonens if it's book accurate. It would have become a bathroom break scene in an otherwise tightly edited show.
@@mrbluebell2735otherwise, I think that the events in between Part 1 and Part 2 should be in a limited episodic summary of everything that Villanueve was not able to get into the theatrical cut. From more indepth about Irulan's character, Thufir's sabotage and death, spacing guild, and the like.
@25:00 I'm pretty sure that Paul's vision is of Chani watching the spice fields be destroyed by the atomics, then burned by the radiation, as they just mentioned in the previous scene with Gurney Halleck. Then when he awakes the scene is very similar but it's of stitch Tabr being destroyed by artillery, and Chani isn't burned like in the vision.
The Lady Fenrig and Feyed Rautha interaction is highly interesting. Never thought any film of Dune and the Chronicles of the struggles for Arrakis would include it
It showcased the Bene Gesserit breeding program; put a stamp on it if you will. I wish they had shown more of the Fenrings; I thought they were a very interesting couple. But just like LOTR they can't include everything or each movie would have been 5 hrs long (fine by me lol).
I particularly enjoyed the twist of the knife where Lady Fenrig is quite possibly already carrying the child of Feyed Rautha even as she is about to marry Paul.
It does sound a lot closer to the book than the David Lynch version. One logical / rhetorical point I'd like to make ~ after taking The Water of Life, Paul has access to the visions, indeed, they come to him as waking dreams, as well as while he sleeps, aka hallucinations. What he doesn't have, is the intelligence and consciousness of a God. He is after all, 16 or 17 years old or something. He has access to the memories of many, and those personalities help, but the whole picture and the interpretation and the comprehension of it, those things take time. Right from the start, he's getting visions of The Golden Path, but it takes quite a while and the watching of many visions for him to understand what he is being shown. What he slowly realises, is that from the millions and billions of possible futures, there's only one way forward where humanity doesn't end. That's the Golden Path. But the path into and through that, involves the death of billions of people, through a holy war that he is to start, and it involves wearing the skin of the worm, leading to a life 3,ooo years long, in which he is to become the most hated and reviled tyrant in human history. The reason he puts it off and stalls, is there are simply so many possibilities, so many way this can change, unless you have taken the time to explore a lot of them, how can you say the Golden Path is the only choice? So Paul triggers the Holy War, and stalls on the Skin of the Worm, exploring other possibilities. TLDR ~ there aren't any. Then he gets hit by a stone burner and becomes a 'blind' hermit / Holy Man, and it falls to his son Leto 2 to take up the Path and wear the skin of the worm. The thing is ~ there are no other choices. The Golden Path is horrifying, but every other choice is worse, and they all lead to the destruction of humanity. There is only one way that 'we' will survive. That's not talking about Paul and Chani ~ that's not talking about the Freemen or the Great Houses or the Empire, that's the whole of Humanity. Extinction may arrive swiftly, it may take time, most involve extreme suffering, but all of them result in the end of mankind. Except the Golden Path. Facets and parts of that are horrifying, such as the journey the God-Emperor must take, but the end result is humans surviving and populating a whole new universe, as well as keeping this one, with a sand-worm and a No-ship and reverent Mother... (Yeah, I'm going all the way to Chapter House here, but they are all part of the one story.) Paul could see that, all of it, from the day he took the Water of Life.... Part of the delay could be called youthful cowardice and a desire to not become the God Emperor, but partly it's a very sensible decision to make damn-sure you understand the decision you're being faced with, because the life or death of Humanity balances on getting this right. You don't want to make the wrong decision here.... That's an awful lot of pressure & responsibility on the shoulders of a man who is not yet 20 years old ~
Bene Gesserit wanted this holy war, right? Since they wanted Paul to travel south and gather the fanatics. So the Bene Gesserit also aware that the Golden Path is the only choice?
@@prome666~ No. I don't think so. The Missionara Protecta had planted a lot of legends and a lot of potential Messiah myths on many worlds. There wasn't a single plan for a single person ~ there was a general life-boat strategy that one day, someone's going to need help. They're going to need to take command of the unwashed and get them marching up the hill toward castle Frankenstein with pitchforks and torches, and the set about planting the seeds of that as far and as wide as they could. See, this is what the BG do. They stick their fingers in other people's groups and governments and aristocracy, religion, and they meddle and manipulate and pull the strings. That's what they exist to do. The general objective, is to get mankind to grow up and stop being a mental adolescent. The BG have access to the lives and memories and personalities of their female ancestors. And some kick-arse kung-fu. They are not (generally) prescient. Their plan to make a Kwizatz Hadderack, was to make a male BG Reverend Mother, somebody who could do the ancestral Memory thing, but with the Male Memories, which they couldn't do. But they intended to have this person completely under their close control, not wandering around some place like the backwoods of Iraq with a few million ISIS fighters. The idea that same person would have prescience, be able to see the future(s) ~ in the way a Guild Navigator can ~ that was a complete shock. The idea that same person would be a borderline / potential Mentat (It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.) was a complete shock. The idea this person would be a central and critical figure in the bloodline of a leading family ~ the future Duke of the Atreides, that was known, that was a completely necessary and unavoidable side effect of their game, but they didn't fully appreciate what that could mean. You don't spend 600 ~ 800 ~ thousand years building Kermit the puppet and then expect your puppet to get elected to the oval office, or at least, if you do, you expect to be the one with their hand up it making its' mouth work. You don't expect Kermit to be smarter than you are and set to subvert your plan, not you subverting his. The BG had a long and complex breeding plan in place to make the Kwizatz Hadderack. That was due to reach fruition in one more generation. The plan was that Jessica was ordered to produce Leto Atreides a daughter, and some other BG hack was to produce Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen a son, and that those two should produce a son who was going to be the Kwizatz Haderack. Paul was meant to be a daughter, and his son was meant to be the Man who could be many ~ under their control. That would give them access to the memories and personalities of their male forebears, which normally they don't have. All the other stuff ~ the prescience, that was completely unexpected. They were meddling with the destiny of humankind, but they got something that was both a bit more than they expected and a bit less, and completely outside their control. Were the BG even aware of the Golden Path? I don't think so. They are not prescient.
The first movie (from the 1980s; the David Lynch version) is a much more literal interpretation of the novel, but only if you go on TH-cam and watch the Extended Version by The Spice Diver. I have a copy of that. The version that was released into theaters was too edited to make much sense, because Dino De Laurentis kept insisting that David Lynch cut out scenes to force it into a two-hour time frame.
I will watch it in a few hours IMAX of course…been a fan of this saga since the beginning and I am 65, will see how the slight deviations from the book impact my judgement. Thus far, part one has been in the top 5 of my book
Thanks,this really helps I haven't read the books, though I saw the original Dune film years ago and I saw Dune Chapter 2 this week after watching the first film a couple of weeks ago I was struggling to feel the logic behind some of the events in the 2nd film , the behaviour of certain characters or certain events seemed too contrived and one dimensional as though they just behaved the way they did or things suddenly happneed the way they did because they "just did" because thats what the plot needed to happen right then with no back story or character devlopment to explain it Hearing the way events and relationships have been condensed into a few months instead of years with large lengths of time just discarded help me to understand better why these things happened or ceratain caharacters behaved In ways that suddenly didn't seem to fit their previous profile or beliefs And to know that the film had even changed certain scenarios It really bugged me how Chani , in the space of what seemed a few days went from being totally seduced by Paul and his character , and totally trusting him to the complete opposite ! One moment she Is fully invested In his own sworn goal for revenge and the destruction of their enemies and his leadership and ready to be by his side forever and with her lifes dream and mission being totally aligned with his to free the Freman and destroy their mutual enemies to SUDDENLY turning against him emotionally in what seemed like overnight when he FINALLY after much anguish SHE WAS FULLY AWARE OF decides to go to the South to unite the Freman to be able to do JUST THIS and drinks the blue water ? I mean SHE wanted him to go South with all that entailed despite PAUL desperately trying to avoid It !! And then suddenly and totaly confusingly she changes i overnight and is the ONLY freman in the WHOLE war council when he addresses them and wins them over after this who now DOESN'T SUPPORT him and suddenly storms out and doesn't want anything tO do now with him taking on this role just as he's becoming the very person she previously encouraged him to go South to become aNd knew he had to??? Duh, wajht am I missing here?? This sudden emotional U turn and distancing from him after this and loss of trust in HIM just seemed to happen far far too quickly and be totally contrived and lacking any emotional depth or development for their relationship and for someone who was supposed to be intimately involved with him ome moment and already was aware of his own struggles with actually NOT wanting to become this person he had to to lead them and her to this ultimate goal Knowing that firstly in the books this is actually NOT what happens with Chani at all at this point makes total sense and confirms the clear feeling that this story line was rushed through and her reactions contrived by the writers But even In the altered universe of the film knwoing the narrative of Pauls journey to this point and thus also their relationship, was basically butchered and HUGELY condensed wth events that took years seeming to happen in weeks Including the birth of a child helps me to understand why it seems this way in the film and that their could well have been a deterioration of trust and doubt and confict between them going on for a long time before that would better exolain some of what seemed her ludicrously sudden extreme reaction and opposition to him
@crispycat4852: Duh, wajht am I missing here?? It's about belief in prophecy. Among the Fremen, there's a division, roughly, between the elders who believe in prophecy and the youth who don't. It pains her that the prophecy is true, and the proof is that she's a part of it. It's too much for her, a young, strong, capable woman, to not have full control over her own life. For me, it would have been much stronger if she had embraced the faith, crossed over to the other side, and bowed to Muad'Dib like everyone else instead of leaving the room. Because he just told her, "I will love you until the end of my life."
I just watched it and haven’t read the books, but are they still together or will we not even see her in the next movie. Can someone explain the status of Paul and his new wife and chani? I’m am really confused by that whole thing
@@Bonquiqui431Irulan will fall in love with Paul but her love is unrequited. Paul will always only love Chani. He lives with Chani and Irulan remains just a token wife, a political alliance. Later in the books Irulan will be looking after and protecting Paul and Chani's children.
Maybe its worth mentioning that because of shorter time-skip in the movie the battle for Arakeen is diffrent than in the book. My main point is the absence of Alia who was the one who killed Baron Vladimir and the said "abomination" as Mother Mohaim called her. Anyway, I really enjoyed the movie and do hope Dune Messiah will be made.
Excellent primer for the Movie. I've read all the Dune books- 26? I thought your 39 minutes was excellent. Seems to me that it takes more than one watching to catch everything anyway so it's all great
Faaaantastic break down, thank you! After watching Dune Part 2 last night, I let it sink it into my mind😌 aand going to watch once again tonight, this time in IMAX theater🎉😎
25:29 imho, it's more that they realize that this fight is an existential threat for the fremen in the north. It makes the choice to go all-out, more existential than a 'petty' revenge ("they killed my son, so I will declare holy war and kill billions throughout the galaxy" vs. "if we dont go down this path, we will disappear")
One thing I still try to understand is, why Paul changed so radically after drinking the water of life. Before he seemed like an idealist fighting FOR the Fremen. Afterwards he seemed to seek for power, why did he suddenly want to become the Emperor? Did he see this as the only path for the Fremen to become free and he acted out of good intentions?
Paul is no longer just Paul after he drinks the Water of Life. He suddenly has ALL the personalities and memories of ALL the Reverend Mothers and ALL his male ancestors inside of him, talking to him, and he & they make that decision together. Jessica mentions this but the movie doesn't really explain how profound it is. Paul's father was also the biggest contender to become the next Emporer; he was the most popular Duke in the Landsraad; that's why he kept himself unmarried, and that's why the Emporer had him killed. So Paul is also just fulfilling the Atreides destiny; the Atreides plan. They are distantly related to the Corrinos (the Emporer's family), you know; just as they are related to the Harkonnens. Just like ruling families of old, way way back on a long-forgotten planet Earth. Fun fact: Herbert said that the humans scattered among the galaxies didn't even remember the word "Earth" anymore. Yet they still carried on it's ancient traditions. I love that. ❤😊
Regarding the books. Prelude to Dune series (it's about a period beginning about 35 years before the events of the original Dune and ending about 15 years before them): 1. House Atreides (1999) 2. House Harkonnen (2000) 3. House Corrino (2001) --- Legends of Dune series (refers to the old galaxy-wide war between humankind and machines, about 10 thousand years before Dune, when the foundations of the saga were actually built): 4. The Butlerian Jihad (2002) 5. The Machine Crusade (2003) 6. The Battle of Corrin (2004) - Dune 7 (as a matter of fact it's an untitled series but it's practically Dune 7, split in two parts and it obviously resumes the story from where Frank Herbert left it in distant 1985): 7. Hunters of Dune (2006) 8. Sandworms of Dune (2007) --- Heroes of Dune series (it's about a period starting around 15 years before Dune until its very beginning): 9. Paul of Dune (2008) 10. The Winds of Dune (2009) --- Great Schools of Dune series 11. Sisterhood of Dune (2012) 12. Mentats of Dune (2014) ....
I like the scene at the end when everybody bow down to Paul, but Chani did not after he proposed to marry the princes. Chani did not see Paul as her ruler, Paul could only see the love of his life slipping away and the princes saw in Chani the one she will never be. That’s how I interpreted that scene. I love this movie
Having read all of the books about Dune by Frank Herbert and most of the books written by his son and Kevin Anderson starting when I was in 5th grade(Im 61), I have gotten a little nit picky about the deviations. However, with as cerebral as the books are and quite a bit of it being internal dialog, I can see the necessity for the changes made in order to convey the themes. Such as Chani not believing. If they showed her as a follower on screen, it would take away from how strong of a woman Chani actually was. This pair of films was a thousand times better than the one previous where Patrick Stewart played Gurney. If it comes out on disk, I will buy it. Your breakdown is fair. It could have been a bit better but Making a video of this nature, you would lose audience due to the length it would have to be. So I say, Bravo and well done.
I kind of feel that those who haven't read the book are getting the impression from the ending that the next movie is going to be all about the battles of the crusade and not afterwards when Paul is victorious on the throne. I wonder what Denis will do. If he shows it, it wouldn't be like the battle at the end of part two where we are rooting for and following individual fighters.
Chani was such an annoying character, especially in Dune 2. Instead of boosting Paul up and increasing his confidence, she made everything more difficult any chance she got. I think they had to use the voice on her two or three times just to get her to do what she should’ve done willingly. She should understand what Paul is trying to do and at least some sort of understanding of the politics involved. She simply never trusted him. She was a huge distraction and I wish her character was way more supportive.
Watched it twice today, absolutely blown away by it. Wasnt sure about the deviation from the book but D.V. did it so well that now I camt wait for Messiah.Ive never ever given a 10/10 for a film but this is defo 8/10.
OK just seen Dune Part 2 (bootleg), and as expected totally bland Villeneuve style. NOTHING SPECIAL, NOTHING Memorable !! Feels a bit truncated, BUT clearly glorifying war, which is a bit anti-Herbert! Forgettable soundtrack! No "Father, the Sleeper has Awakened" !!! Ouch!
@@chasx7062my favourite line from Dune 84. You've got a point it is a bit war-glorifying but ive always loved Dune for the revenge storyAnd the knife crime is next level too🧐🤣
@@SK4M_Freali have rewatched Dune part1 and the fight scenes were better!!! Part2 is more and more of pointless knife fights, the script was horrible, they could have combined a few fights together....
Always love your commentary. Just a quick note. Lasgun is pronounced "Laze-gun" not "Lazz-gun." Literally a contraction of laser gun. And, of course, we know what happens when a lasgun intersects a shield. Nuclear fission. Ouch.
I was actually really suprised how modest the emperor appeared even though he was supposedly the most powerfull man in the universe. while the Harkonen had a literal city planet of black/white doom, the emperor felt really ... underwhelming for me. I kinda wished they had made him a little more pompous and bombastic. Same goes for the Fremen Sieges. They kinda lacked in size fpr my taste. it was all sand and ruin walls. I expected them to have a little more technology and hive cities ...
Wow, great work, thanks for taking the time to make this video! I watched the movie last night, and although I eagerly anticipated it and thoroughly enjoyed it (and planning to watch again!), I was a bit baffled about the way things turned. I haven't read the books, but according to my understanding of the movie's storytelling, I tend to disagree with the "reckless" characterization of Paul's actions. To me, it seems that for better of for worse, from the moment he drank the water of life and saw whatever it is that he saw in those future timelines and the slim chances of them winning, he was pretty determined and strategic about pursuing that elusive victory. Let's not forget that according to the films version, this victory means freedom for the Fremen as well as taking their planet back; but essentially, it means justice for the rest of the Houses and the people under them as well, since the murderous plotting against the Atreides' House has shown that the Empire is corrupted. I don't know, am I getting something wrong / missing something here?
Great video !!! It covers lots of the story ( only bad I have to say is that @CortexVideos refers to the Fremen as ( indigenous ) and they are Not indigenous, I would say ( natives or Arrakis )
It is really too bad that they rushed Chani's relationship with Paul, by almost a decade. They cut out the LOSS of their first child (making the barrage of northern seitches a bigger deal). This decision wreaks of the times... they CUT 5-10 years of love story. The essence of their love story was scrubbed so badly, that it appeared as if Paul never even got laid... Can't have a beautiful woman become a mother... love a white man... can't have her be the ultimate supporter of Paul by means of love and serendipity (as it is in real life and in the book)... no no... Chani is a bratty teenager, who stays that way, and is an epic Fedaykin warrior leader, re the last fight planning... worst thing here, it doesn't play her character into any believable future role...All to make it clear that religious fundamentalism and Paul are actually anti-hero forces, which is abundantly clear and could be highlighted without ruining the entire core couple.
An excellent explanation of the film plot and helpful comparisons with the original novel. I read the book when it was first published - quite some time ago!
they get tired they say and they jump or dismount off then and the hooks pulls up the skin of the worm so the worms stay above sand to avoid sand on their open flesh.
Great production quality, but the rewrite to elevate Chani to a major character with all the worst behaviors of modern women in western world was beyond terrible..... it is nefariois. Chani is, unsupportive, openly combative, and apart from some longing stares is a rom-com level of toxic girlfriend who behaves like a petulant child, constantly undermines Paul, and does literally nothing to deserve the levek of commitment from Paul. A highly competent man who magically turns into a doe eyed simp in her presence and expresses his undying love simply because she exists. Flash backs of John snow in Final season of GoT. Icing on the cake was giving her the final sceene storming off in selfish tantrum instead of staying to support her high status man. Every woman who wants to be in a relationship wants a high status man, but young women who think they can behave like her and get a high status man to commit is in for bitter disappointment...... Wall street is absolutely right. Start investing in liquor and cat food companies. The world will be full of bitter, loney women, unable to take responsibility for thier poor choices. The women who do actually know how to be in a supportive healthy relationship with a man will clean up. You dont want to be a 35 year old single woman prowling night clubs for bodies and drowning in booze to escape the reality of wasted youth. Young women dont let those bitter middle aged women convince you to make the same poor choices. Want to be truly happy? Marry Young, be incredibly supportive of a man before he becomes successful and he will give you the world. start a family young. You will keep your figure later in life and have a far more rewarding life than being a wage slave in a mid-level career you dont even like. There are so few few traditional women left in the Western World you will get real princess treatment
@34:41 What Paul chose to do wasn't reckless, but rather a well-considered decision. After consuming the water of life, Paul's visions became more distinct. He confided in his mother that he could only envision one future where they achieved victory. Interestingly, during his explanation, he even foresaw himself being stabbed with a blade. He cleverly deceived Feyd into believing that he had the advantage.
Dune 2 is a love story and I found that the ending was so powerful because the music is a variable of the Paul-Chani love theme. I think they slightly over-played Chani's opposition to the prophecy, she was upset because she was losing her boyfriend, who then marries the princess and takes Chani's people on a galactic jihad. The while thing is heart breaking, not the least of which is Paul sadly giving the order to Lead them to Paradise.
Harkonnen dudes kept on getting their necks slashed when they recommended their leader get rest. I’m like, shut yer mouth dude…you crazy??!! These ain’t normal employers hoping you got some work life balance!!😂
Paul’s choice to fight Feyd wasn’t out of “reckless abandon.” You forgot that Paul has future sight. He knew he would kill Feyd and he knew how to do it.
Chani’s reaction to Paul’s marriage to Princess Irulah is a deviation from the book. Hopefully she comes back in the next part. The princess is portrayed surprisingly docile here as opposed to what was understood in the books… hmmmm I wonder what they have in mind though, I just hope they don't make it like it's the Princess that reproduce’s Paul’s heir.
I thought it was a nice surprise and it kind of supported my irritation with the southern Freemen. When I read the books in about the '70-ties the Freemen just irrated me, now 40 years or so later with Islamic terrorism haven taken full flight, they repulse me.
In just under 24 hours I'll be right there at the center of an IMAX room watching the beginning of the movie and I physically cannot wait. The Dune messiah movie has to happen
@@angelayang5183sorry, i think it’ll just be a trilogy, with the first two adapting the first book and the third adapting messiah as a satisfying conclusion
Yeah just saw the interview on one of the talk shows with Denis saying something like "a final visit to arrakis closing the Paul Atreides story" Honestly, can't complain. They've set the bar so high for sci-fi movies now.
I didn’t the portal of Chani in this. They tried to make a strong woman character but ended up with just another emotional sidelined female character. Her character in the book is already strong with her killing challengers that come for Paul, and the line at the end “history will know us as wives” just sells the whole point and for Denis to take that away feels wrong to me. Also did the film not have a two year time skip?? Like the book? Cause if it did, then Jessica had Alia in her womb for two years!?
It was 5 years or so in the books and prior movies, but instead they made it around 7months only which is not that much time at all for that story to play out. Also I found Chani's character annoying in this adaptation as she was mainly sulking and upset with him versus being a supportive partner.
@@celestinegardener The was a very funny jealousy mechanic in Dune2 between the Love (Chani) and the Mother (Jessica) competing for Paul. This was true hate & rivalry under the guise of fighting for their ideologies (Fremen patriotism vs. Bene Gesserit power/religion).
@@celestinegardener yes same! Chanis character wasn’t done right at all, in the book she supports Paul and trust him and loves him and in the movie it seemed as the story went she hated him more and more
I'm going to the theater next weekend I need the spoilers to understand the movie. If someone don't explain me the movie I probably don't understand what is going on
everybody’s like “gibbs me dat spice 🤙” and the Harkonnens are like “okay dawg chill,” and the Fremen are like “nah-uh,” and then they all fight, and a few people drink some blue Kool-Aid.
All you have to do is read the novel, by Frank Herbert. It is the SOURCE MATERIAL; it is the REASON why Villeneuve could make this film, and it is the REASON why the movie is so good.
Great breakdown however, the ending I remember was Paul accepting the empowers champion, Gerne asking Paul to fight him and “not wait his time on this filth.” And Paul telling Gerne no basically. I don’t remember Ratha “tricking” or forcing Paul to fight.
All these events have taken place between the death of Paul’s father and people and the birth of his Sister. The birth never occurred in the movie. Too many deviations for my taste but, the movie is outstanding.
I believe Paul had already seen himself plunge the dagger into Rautha and thus probably agrees to fight him. Cause in the first half of the movie there is a clip shown regarding the dagger when Paul has visions of the aftermath if he travels to the South.
I liked Dune Part 2. Yet I have 1 major nitpick. Alia Atraties got robbed! Spoiler Alert, duh. She was supposed to kill the Baron! I might forgive because Anya Taylor-Joy will nail it as Alia. We'll see.
I'm a fan of the Villeneuve Dune world and the David Lynch Dune. I loved sharing it with my GF. This is a film that will be watchable many times to get the whole experience. I believe Dune is a metaphor or say a revelation of Kardiff type 3-to 4 Galactic civilization and I realized this is what it would look like, I imagined myself popped into Iracus and this is the feeling I would get....the feeling that this is not Kansas Toto. That was my biggest takeaway from this film, left me with a bigger impact then Villeneuve 1st Dune. Though this movie did not go into why everybody was fighting over control of Icarcus and Spice. The Lynch version explained that Spice could "Fold space" make galactic travel instantaneous.
I did the double bill and maybe because of that, where part 1 feels languidly steeped in the strangeness of the Dune universe, part 2 felt a little rushed in a fair few places, important places at that. Maybe I just need to see it 5 or 6 more times though, you know, to let it all sink in 😁
Reading the original novel is the best thing to do to understand the storyline. It is the source material, and it answers all questions; clears up all confusion.
Exactly part 2, even I felt a little bit rushed in the second half of the film and in most important places, its just there are scenes and characters which are unexplored and rushed
Here is my breakdown of the plot and ending for Denis Villeneuve's Dune Part 2. I've got more Dune uploads to come over the next few weeks, including a spoiler-filled video essay, a biggest questions video and much more. Hope you enjoy it!
The film isn't even out yet and you're spoiling it? Why don't you just fuck off?
@@TheChurchof4you’re the one that clicked on a video that was clearly gonna be spoiler-y. Maybe take your own advice next time.
My *_FIRST_* assumption is that you are explaining the ending for those of whom have already seen this film. My *_SECOND_* assumption is that it's quite condescending of you to think that some of us need the ending explained.
/sarcasm
Immediately failed to mention that inthe book Paul was reverred and respected for killing the great warrior Jamis, and then adopted his children. Instead, Paul 's subjected to a BLM or suburban Parisian ghetto rioting mob barking like dirty dogs. And Chani's character has been completely vandalized. And her riding off into the sunset on a worm as the last scene is a warning that it will be "boss girl" switch in part 3. It's The Force Awakens all over.
Please make a video with the differences between the movie and the books
After seeing the movie all I can think is: Please make Dune Messiah, Please make Dune Messiah, Please make Dune Messiah.
Dennis said he wanted to at minimum do a trilogy with Dune covering Dune in 2 films and the third with Dune messiah, so all he needs is decent Dune 2 box office and a greenlight from warner bros and the cast
All we can do now is pray
Right me too ! I’m soo ready
Its already confirm..dennis will do Dune Messiah
They greenlit it once the studio saw Dune 2. DV also said after Messiah Frank gets a butnout there. @@lilbroomstick7914
End of movie, Paul did not tell Chani he would never leave her. He told her he would never stop loving her. A little more powerful statement from him, knowing what he is going to do.
That's the way!
It's because he knows he has to pursue his political ambitions in order for his and his family and friends survival. It was a hard choice for him to make which Villinueve perfectly captured before Paul traveled south on Arrakis. It's also why we see Paul shed a tear when confronted by Chani when he agrees to ride south because he knows he will have to make that difficult decision to not only keep his family name and bloodline moving forward but to also inevitably keep Changing alive. Denis Villinueve did an incredible job telling this story and I CANT wait for Dune Messiah. This movie was so immersive and I can't get it out of my head. I've seen it 3 times already and will gladly see it many many more times. Amazing masterpiece for anyone reading this and hasn't seen the movie
... and Chani will die in childbirth.
@@veramae4098I knew this, but why put spoilers?
@@Rawc90 the book came out 50 years ago.
When you realize this was only the beginning of how insane and weird the story gets
True, I still remember reading Dune Messiah through God Emperor of Dune in high school and I was like... "What on earth am I reading!?" its still amazing stuff but it may be too much for the casual viewer.
@@Maya_Ruinz for real especially like the 5th and 6th book, i was like "wait wtf!?"
First book is good but the rest is a mess that goes off the rails
The story really makes no sense
Emperor's New Clothes is Sci Fi form
ALL ABOUT MORE MONEY
This thing can turne INTO a NEVER ending MOVIE scam,lol,like STAR WARS NEVER ENDING,THE GIRL CAN BECOME THE MISSIA AND THE REAL LEADER,LOL HE IS JUST HER ASSISTANT,LOL
“Send them to paradise” Paul Atreides
and then they get on some ships that aren’t even theirs without stopping to come up with a plan or have lunch first.
"Lead them to paradise"
@@Sam_T2000😂
@@Sam_T2000 Fremen are just different like that
@@brendanmohareful - I guess they don’t ever have to stop for bathroom breaks 🤷🏻♂️
Javier Bardeem was amazing. What a great actor
Fave. Hahah i love how he is the ultimate hype man. "LISAN AL GAIB!"
He was also amazing in Skyfall 💯💯💯
As it is written.
I thought the same thing. He really shows his acting ability which shows lots of time it's the role that defines the performance. I thought all the acting was great. You could see Paul taking in the responsibility of what he needs to do and even his walk becomes more confident and mature. Awesome movie!
Fantastic actor.
Just saw the movie today and I have not felt this way ever since watching _The Two Towers_ in cinema 2 decades ago. This movie is, without a doubt, the "Lord of the Rings" of science fiction. 12 out of 10!!! Planning to go watch it again! ☺
bro I feel you! After I watched it I was like, what is this emotions I am feeling right now. It seems so familiar yet so far.
And I realized it was the same feelings but better after I was the PLANET OF THE APES 2001 film when I was a little child. So, this means this movie was indeed the best of the best! 12 out of 10! Really good
Two Towers was epic in the cinema
I hate to be the one to break it to ya but Lord of the rings is also science fiction.
@@tihseht472 more fantasy than sci fi
@@tihseht472no. As a die hard science fiction and lord of the rings fan, you are completely and totally incorrect. Lord of the rings is fantasy. There is nothing Science Fiction about it whatsoever. You are out of your mind. There is literally no use advanced technology, which is a staple of science fiction. Check all the boxes for fantasy: wizards, dragons, monsters, valiant heroes. Seriously, next you are going to tell me that The Notebook is an action adventure film.
This video was the cleanest most well thought and organized summary on TH-cam, even more than channels with millions of subscribers. Well done!
I'm disappointed that Denis didn't even portray the mysterious & secretive Spacing Guild. Still, all in all this is a great film.
We might see the Guild in part III
I’ll give him a pass on not showing them in this film since in the books we don’t see them till messiah
Spacing Guild will have a role to play in Messiah
We saw them in Part 1
I accept Villeneuve’s choice given the necessities of successfully adapting the tapestry if a novel into the simpler weave of a film.
When Paul “silences” Helen Mohium, is it with VOICE, and just normal tones! I’ve always loved that part in the novel
its his normal tone, THE VOICE only works on a single individual.
In the movie there were sound effects over Paul's voice when he silenced Helen Mohiam. So, yeah. He used the voice.
@@forzemajore no he did not. THE VOICE works only on single individual, not on a crowd
@@pralayaryan He directed his command on a singular person in the crowd which was Helen Mohiam who was trying to speak but was silenced by him using the voice.
@@forzemajore ok then i will go and watch the movie again, i loved the movie anyway
I watched this movie last night and I need another 3hrs to watch it again.
Epic movie!
just came home from watching dune part 1 and 2 in one go at the cinema and I'm fuckin speechless, I read the book after I watched part 1 in 2021 and there were obvious changes but I think this was the best way to adapt the book and paving the way for messiah
It's the complete antithesis. The adaptation is a mess and a joke. And the woke DEI and "girl boss" crap has caused issues. It's a vandalisation.It's another The Force Awakens moment.
How are the books to read?
@@samanthab1923 I can weigh in here. I read the 1st 3 >25 years ago and jump ship by the 3rd coz it's hard work for a normie (like me). The 1st is good and easy. It's all about power and corruption.
@@deathheadsquad8097 Thanks 👋
It is great you turned to the books! And I will watch pt 1 again, also, before pt.2
It's been a long time since I felt the vibes of a film like THE LORD OF THE RINGS, after 21 years finally ,,DUNE II is a cinematic masterpiece packaged in a very epic and emotional way... Zimmer really plays an important role in part 2... the scoring is what makes the difference... ONE AND ONLY !!! overall this is masterpiece scifi in modern CINEMA by FAR !!
Just went to the movies last night. It was amazing and I pray that they make Dune Messiah. We really need the trilogy.
Great breakdown! I thought the spice harvester attack was one of the best action scenes I have seen in years! Nothing really to explain from it but I thought was awesome.
The harvester attack bothered me by how unnecessary it was. Why hide in the sand, risk your lives when you then laser harvesters from afar or destroy them with homing mines. It was intense and incredibly shot but felt so unnecessary at the same time.
Excellent writing
@@JanStrojil
Details arent super crisp but i dont believe there was anywhere for them to hide in the distance in that instance.
@@whiskybrush3219 the attack is followed up by laser shots - they could have just lead with that
The book outlines that Paul had access to his paternal ancestral memories as well as his maternal, that's where he could go where the BG could not.
Hardly reckless abandon... Paul understands that he needs to prove that he is the chosen one by defeating his opponent in a knife duel.
And he needs to destroy the Bene Gesserit's only other current candidate for their Choaen One scheme. He clearly doesn't trust their sisterhood and their motives, so he is taking their goal from them.
thank you very much. didn't read any books and needed some clarity after seeing Part 2 and this video was perfect.
Glad it was helpful!
Oh, how I wish Denis releases a director’s cut of both films.
He said pretty conclusively that is not going to happen sadly
I enjoy your commentary truly because you discuss the movie, not necessarily your opinion of the movie which I appreciate greatly. I've heard other commentary and it seems to be more about the commentators opinion of the movie versus the movie itself. So thank you! Enjoyed your commentary
I want to see Messiah incorporate Children of Dune as well. Messiah completes the first book's intent, but Children of Dune completes the entore arc. The idea of Leto taking the path that Paul could not is always intriguing.
...but we can end it before he becomes a half worm god that rules as a tyrant for 3000 years, please.
I just watch the movie this afternoon (28 February). I love what how Villeneuve done with the cinematography of this movie. I really love it, the scaling that show how big the Spice Harvester is, how big the imperium spaceship is, the scaling is perfect. The color grading, the moon, the eclipse, the sunset of Aarakis is so beautiful and it felt so real. How a dessert can be that beuatiful?
For Alia, I'm not that disappointed to face a fact that she's still in Jessica's womb. I just kinda disappointed that we don't get enough of her? And i just expect to see more Anya Taylor Johnson Alia not just by one scene, but maybe perhaps like the various of Paul possible future version when she kill Baron Vladimir Harkonenn? Or maybe a future when she sit with Irulan, Jessica and Paul as the emperor in one room? Things like this is i wanted to see from Paul's Vision and Alia. Things that can help us fantasies further for the future film
My most disappointment is that we stull haven't had the guild navigator. I don't care if we only get one scene of it, i think it can help the general audience (those who didn't read the book or aware to Dune lore) to understand more the use of spice. I mean Dune is all about spice, but i just don't see how Spice is really use in this movie besidr it got harvested and use in a meal for the fremen.
Some things that i really like is that this movie show what Benne Gesserit has done through the generation. Lea Seydoux play a really charming and seducing Lady Margot Fenring.
I'm not that expert in Dune Lore, but if I'm not, Atreides culture is to hang the head of living being/things and killed their leader, so i was expected that the head of Vladimir get hang in Paul emperor's room.
For the future, i was hope that we can see Irulan get more appreciation from Paul since i love how Florence Pugh play her and it's a kinda waste to not explore her character. I'm sure there's also a big reason that why Villeneuve didn't wanted to show the "History will know us as wives" is so it can build up a romantic tension between Paul, Irulan and Chani. The fact that this movie is close with Chani's face who's rage and confuse is really made the general audience and the book reader to play with their fantasy a bit. Perhaps Paul will have a moral dillema when He realize Chani is pregnant, or Maybe Irulan will pregnant from Paul? I can see there's a chance for it.
The book answers your last question.
@34:35 I disagree that he impulsively agrees to fight Feyd. He knew through his prescience he'd have to fight Feyd that's why he said it was his burden. And impulsive agreement wouldn't be someone's burden. We've been shown up to this point, that Paul b4 the water of life was impulsive sometimes and made a few mistakes. But Paul after the water of life is no longer impulsive and sees the plans with in plans. He crafts his own plan and we are along for the ride.
I loved the use of filming in infrared on the Harkkonen home world
It was heartbreaking that Paul didn’t even give Chani a head’s up about his decision to marry Irulan. At least in the Lynch movie, he ensures her it’s only a political move, and Jessica comforts her (same in the book). In Dune Part II, she doesn’t get any of that. He springs it on her before taking her people into space. So he breaks her heart and takes her family with him. It’s all kinds of BS.
I mean what was she supposed to expect? She should've known Paul would've needed to marry politically, I also don't know why shes so upset when literally right before Paul proposed the marriage he told her his heart is only for her, so in a roundabout way he actually did tell her
he does though in his own way, when he tells chani he will always love her until his last breath.
That's one reason I prefer the novel.
People who haven't read the novel don't realize how much poetic license Villeneuve took with Frank Herbert's material.
I still think it was a good interpretation of the novel.
The novel was boring and cringe at moments. I like the film better @@honorsilverthorne7227
In the novel "Dune," Chani becomes more of a background character towards the end. She's depicted as someone who fully grasps the complex political schemes unfolding around her and believes that Paul is their messiah. Conversely, in the film adaptation, Chani is given a more prominent and independent role. She is skeptical of Paul, differing from her portrayal in the book. This change in character perspective makes sense considering her enhanced role in the movie. From her viewpoint, Paul appears to be just another oppressor waiting to take control over the Fremen, succeeding the Harkonnens-and her assessment isn't without merit.
I read elsewhere a comment of paul choosing a different timeline. As he has seen what happens in the books and has decided against it. Giving it a good way to show off how different this interpretation of the books to movies. Making it more Denis version of the same story
Oh wow I like this idea
Omg. Imagine this happening and done in the right way. IMAGINE it.
@@notdn yeah, he saw what happened to chani. So to protect her he had to give her up. I'm putting on bets it's her who will kill Paul in Messiah
Great Breakdown just a couple of things at 34:06 Paul tells Chani he will always love her not that he'd never leave her side as his strategic move to ask for the Emporer's daughter hand was already forseen by him. The way he looks at Chani he knew he broke her heart and also his knife fight with Feyd may seem reckless but with his foresight he already knew the outcome.
My only issue with the movie was that Thufir Hawat was cut. His storyline in the second half of the book was one the best things about the book. All they had to do was add on another 10-15 mins to the movie for Thufir.
it’s already 2 hours 45 minutes, if Denis would’ve been allowed to im sure he would’ve
As much as I adore Thufir as a character, am inclined to favour the director editing out these scenes. They would have to show some body horror torture as well as his subtle sabotage efforts vs the harkonens if it's book accurate. It would have become a bathroom break scene in an otherwise tightly edited show.
The movie was perfect length it wasn’t too long or too short with how it was told. An extra 15 would have definitely been felt with the movie we got
@@mrbluebell2735otherwise, I think that the events in between Part 1 and Part 2 should be in a limited episodic summary of everything that Villanueve was not able to get into the theatrical cut. From more indepth about Irulan's character, Thufir's sabotage and death, spacing guild, and the like.
I could have easily watched for another hour lol
@25:00 I'm pretty sure that Paul's vision is of Chani watching the spice fields be destroyed by the atomics, then burned by the radiation, as they just mentioned in the previous scene with Gurney Halleck. Then when he awakes the scene is very similar but it's of stitch Tabr being destroyed by artillery, and Chani isn't burned like in the vision.
The Lady Fenrig and Feyed Rautha interaction is highly interesting. Never thought any film of Dune and the Chronicles of the struggles for Arrakis would include it
It showcased the Bene Gesserit breeding program; put a stamp on it if you will. I wish they had shown more of the Fenrings; I thought they were a very interesting couple. But just like LOTR they can't include everything or each movie would have been 5 hrs long (fine by me lol).
I particularly enjoyed the twist of the knife where Lady Fenrig is quite possibly already carrying the child of Feyed Rautha even as she is about to marry Paul.
Even as a jaded reader from many moons ago, I am beyond myself with how much I love this movie…these 2 masterpieces from Denis! 😊
thanks will be able to see the movie again using these insights
Thank you and im glad you found it insightful
It does sound a lot closer to the book than the David Lynch version.
One logical / rhetorical point I'd like to make ~ after taking The Water of Life, Paul has access to the visions, indeed, they come to him as waking dreams, as well as while he sleeps, aka hallucinations. What he doesn't have, is the intelligence and consciousness of a God. He is after all, 16 or 17 years old or something. He has access to the memories of many, and those personalities help, but the whole picture and the interpretation and the comprehension of it, those things take time. Right from the start, he's getting visions of The Golden Path, but it takes quite a while and the watching of many visions for him to understand what he is being shown. What he slowly realises, is that from the millions and billions of possible futures, there's only one way forward where humanity doesn't end. That's the Golden Path. But the path into and through that, involves the death of billions of people, through a holy war that he is to start, and it involves wearing the skin of the worm, leading to a life 3,ooo years long, in which he is to become the most hated and reviled tyrant in human history.
The reason he puts it off and stalls, is there are simply so many possibilities, so many way this can change, unless you have taken the time to explore a lot of them, how can you say the Golden Path is the only choice?
So Paul triggers the Holy War, and stalls on the Skin of the Worm, exploring other possibilities. TLDR ~ there aren't any. Then he gets hit by a stone burner and becomes a 'blind' hermit / Holy Man, and it falls to his son Leto 2 to take up the Path and wear the skin of the worm.
The thing is ~ there are no other choices. The Golden Path is horrifying, but every other choice is worse, and they all lead to the destruction of humanity. There is only one way that 'we' will survive. That's not talking about Paul and Chani ~ that's not talking about the Freemen or the Great Houses or the Empire, that's the whole of Humanity. Extinction may arrive swiftly, it may take time, most involve extreme suffering, but all of them result in the end of mankind. Except the Golden Path. Facets and parts of that are horrifying, such as the journey the God-Emperor must take, but the end result is humans surviving and populating a whole new universe, as well as keeping this one, with a sand-worm and a No-ship and reverent Mother... (Yeah, I'm going all the way to Chapter House here, but they are all part of the one story.) Paul could see that, all of it, from the day he took the Water of Life.... Part of the delay could be called youthful cowardice and a desire to not become the God Emperor, but partly it's a very sensible decision to make damn-sure you understand the decision you're being faced with, because the life or death of Humanity balances on getting this right. You don't want to make the wrong decision here.... That's an awful lot of pressure & responsibility on the shoulders of a man who is not yet 20 years old ~
Bene Gesserit wanted this holy war, right? Since they wanted Paul to travel south and gather the fanatics. So the Bene Gesserit also aware that the Golden Path is the only choice?
@@prome666~ No. I don't think so.
The Missionara Protecta had planted a lot of legends and a lot of potential Messiah myths on many worlds. There wasn't a single plan for a single person ~ there was a general life-boat strategy that one day, someone's going to need help. They're going to need to take command of the unwashed and get them marching up the hill toward castle Frankenstein with pitchforks and torches, and the set about planting the seeds of that as far and as wide as they could. See, this is what the BG do. They stick their fingers in other people's groups and governments and aristocracy, religion, and they meddle and manipulate and pull the strings. That's what they exist to do. The general objective, is to get mankind to grow up and stop being a mental adolescent.
The BG have access to the lives and memories and personalities of their female ancestors. And some kick-arse kung-fu. They are not (generally) prescient.
Their plan to make a Kwizatz Hadderack, was to make a male BG Reverend Mother, somebody who could do the ancestral Memory thing, but with the Male Memories, which they couldn't do. But they intended to have this person completely under their close control, not wandering around some place like the backwoods of Iraq with a few million ISIS fighters. The idea that same person would have prescience, be able to see the future(s) ~ in the way a Guild Navigator can ~ that was a complete shock. The idea that same person would be a borderline / potential Mentat (It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.) was a complete shock. The idea this person would be a central and critical figure in the bloodline of a leading family ~ the future Duke of the Atreides, that was known, that was a completely necessary and unavoidable side effect of their game, but they didn't fully appreciate what that could mean. You don't spend 600 ~ 800 ~ thousand years building Kermit the puppet and then expect your puppet to get elected to the oval office, or at least, if you do, you expect to be the one with their hand up it making its' mouth work. You don't expect Kermit to be smarter than you are and set to subvert your plan, not you subverting his.
The BG had a long and complex breeding plan in place to make the Kwizatz Hadderack. That was due to reach fruition in one more generation. The plan was that Jessica was ordered to produce Leto Atreides a daughter, and some other BG hack was to produce Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen a son, and that those two should produce a son who was going to be the Kwizatz Haderack. Paul was meant to be a daughter, and his son was meant to be the Man who could be many ~ under their control. That would give them access to the memories and personalities of their male forebears, which normally they don't have. All the other stuff ~ the prescience, that was completely unexpected. They were meddling with the destiny of humankind, but they got something that was both a bit more than they expected and a bit less, and completely outside their control.
Were the BG even aware of the Golden Path?
I don't think so. They are not prescient.
The first movie (from the 1980s; the David Lynch version) is a much more literal interpretation of the novel, but only if you go on TH-cam and watch the Extended Version by The Spice Diver. I have a copy of that. The version that was released into theaters was too edited to make much sense, because Dino De Laurentis kept insisting that David Lynch cut out scenes to force it into a two-hour time frame.
@@honorsilverthorne7227100% agree! Well said, thank you!
The emperor doesn’t need more spice he needs more Cow Bell!! 🔔
Yes! He's got a fever Baby and the only prescription is *more cowbell* !!!
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Saw this, today. Very good film. They did a good job adapting it to the big screen.
I will watch it in a few hours IMAX of course…been a fan of this saga since the beginning and I am 65, will see how the slight deviations from the book impact my judgement. Thus far, part one has been in the top 5 of my book
Well, did you enjoy Part II? How did it make you feel, how did it compare to the books, etc?
Thanks,this really helps
I haven't read the books, though I saw the original Dune film years ago and I saw Dune Chapter 2 this week after watching the first film a couple of weeks ago
I was struggling to feel the logic behind some of the events in the 2nd film , the behaviour of certain characters or certain events seemed too contrived and one dimensional as though they just behaved the way they did or things suddenly happneed the way they did because they "just did" because thats what the plot needed to happen right then with no back story or character devlopment to explain it
Hearing the way events and relationships have been condensed into a few months instead of years with large lengths of time just discarded help me to understand better why these things happened or ceratain caharacters behaved In ways that suddenly didn't seem to fit their previous profile or beliefs
And to know that the film had even changed certain scenarios
It really bugged me how Chani , in the space of what seemed a few days went from being totally seduced by Paul and his character , and totally trusting him to the complete opposite !
One moment she Is fully invested In his own sworn goal for revenge and the destruction of their enemies and his leadership and ready to be by his side forever and with her lifes dream and mission being totally aligned with his to free the Freman and destroy their mutual enemies to SUDDENLY turning against him emotionally in what seemed like overnight when he FINALLY after much anguish SHE WAS FULLY AWARE OF decides to go to the South to unite the Freman to be able to do JUST THIS and drinks the blue water ? I mean SHE wanted him to go South with all that entailed despite PAUL desperately trying to avoid It !!
And then suddenly and totaly confusingly she changes i overnight and is the ONLY freman in the WHOLE war council when he addresses them and wins them over after this who now DOESN'T SUPPORT him and suddenly storms out and doesn't want anything tO do now with him taking on this role just as he's becoming the very person she previously encouraged him to go South to become aNd knew he had to??? Duh, wajht am I missing here??
This sudden emotional U turn and distancing from him after this and loss of trust in HIM just seemed to happen far far too quickly and be totally contrived and lacking any emotional depth or development for their relationship and for someone who was supposed to be intimately involved with him ome moment and already was aware of his own struggles with actually NOT wanting to become this person he had to to lead them and her to this ultimate goal
Knowing that firstly in the books this is actually NOT what happens with Chani at all at this point makes total sense and confirms the clear feeling that this story line was rushed through and her reactions contrived by the writers
But even In the altered universe of the film knwoing the narrative of Pauls journey to this point and thus also their relationship, was basically butchered and HUGELY condensed wth events that took years seeming to happen in weeks Including the birth of a child helps me to understand why it seems this way in the film and that their could well have been a deterioration of trust and doubt and confict between them going on for a long time before that would better exolain some of what seemed her ludicrously sudden extreme reaction and opposition to him
@crispycat4852: Duh, wajht am I missing here??
It's about belief in prophecy. Among the Fremen, there's a division, roughly, between the elders who believe in prophecy and the youth who don't. It pains her that the prophecy is true, and the proof is that she's a part of it. It's too much for her, a young, strong, capable woman, to not have full control over her own life.
For me, it would have been much stronger if she had embraced the faith, crossed over to the other side, and bowed to Muad'Dib like everyone else instead of leaving the room. Because he just told her, "I will love you until the end of my life."
I just watched it and haven’t read the books, but are they still together or will we not even see her in the next movie. Can someone explain the status of Paul and his new wife and chani? I’m am really confused by that whole thing
@@Bonquiqui431Irulan will fall in love with Paul but her love is unrequited. Paul will always only love Chani. He lives with Chani and Irulan remains just a token wife, a political alliance. Later in the books Irulan will be looking after and protecting Paul and Chani's children.
@@Bonquiqui431As Paul said, she comes back around and reconciles with him.
Irulan is just a political alliance.
Listen, Dune is fun, but it isn't great literature, and the DV movies are quite conventional and not very daring.
This video helped greatly. I kinda feel bad for Paul like I feel bad for Anakin before his rise to Darth Vader
I don’t know if you watch anime but attack on titans main character suffers a very similar fate.
Just seen part ii..warm riding was an amazing cinematography, so epic!
Maybe its worth mentioning that because of shorter time-skip in the movie the battle for Arakeen is diffrent than in the book. My main point is the absence of Alia who was the one who killed Baron Vladimir and the said "abomination" as Mother Mohaim called her. Anyway, I really enjoyed the movie and do hope Dune Messiah will be made.
this is so clear and easy to follow. thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Thropters exploding inside their own shields looked cool aswell as those flying magnetic mines. I just luv the 'splosians.
This is easily the best movie I’ve seen in a while
Excellent primer for the Movie. I've read all the Dune books- 26? I thought your 39 minutes was excellent. Seems to me that it takes more than one watching to catch everything anyway so it's all great
I've read all the books too. ❤😊
Great breakdown, good job. I really loved this movie and found it even better than the first one
Glad you enjoyed it!
Faaaantastic break down, thank you! After watching Dune Part 2 last night, I let it sink it into my mind😌 aand going to watch once again tonight, this time in IMAX theater🎉😎
25:29 imho, it's more that they realize that this fight is an existential threat for the fremen in the north. It makes the choice to go all-out, more existential than a 'petty' revenge ("they killed my son, so I will declare holy war and kill billions throughout the galaxy" vs. "if we dont go down this path, we will disappear")
Father; not son?
My personal favourite scene of Part Two is the one between Lady Fenring and Feyd-Rautha. Everything about it is perfect to me, so intense
I loved how soft and seductive her voice was.
One thing I still try to understand is, why Paul changed so radically after drinking the water of life. Before he seemed like an idealist fighting FOR the Fremen. Afterwards he seemed to seek for power, why did he suddenly want to become the Emperor? Did he see this as the only path for the Fremen to become free and he acted out of good intentions?
He foresaw humanity extinction if did not took the throne.
Paul is no longer just Paul after he drinks the Water of Life. He suddenly has ALL the personalities and memories of ALL the Reverend Mothers and ALL his male ancestors inside of him, talking to him, and he & they make that decision together. Jessica mentions this but the movie doesn't really explain how profound it is.
Paul's father was also the biggest contender to become the next Emporer; he was the most popular Duke in the Landsraad; that's why he kept himself unmarried, and that's why the Emporer had him killed. So Paul is also just fulfilling the Atreides destiny; the Atreides plan.
They are distantly related to the Corrinos (the Emporer's family), you know; just as they are related to the Harkonnens.
Just like ruling families of old, way way back on a long-forgotten planet Earth.
Fun fact: Herbert said that the humans scattered among the galaxies didn't even remember the word "Earth" anymore. Yet they still carried on it's ancient traditions.
I love that. ❤😊
Regarding the books.
Prelude to Dune series (it's about a period beginning about 35 years before the events of the original Dune and ending about 15 years before them):
1. House Atreides (1999)
2. House Harkonnen (2000)
3. House Corrino (2001)
--- Legends of Dune series (refers to the old galaxy-wide war between humankind and machines, about 10 thousand years before Dune, when the foundations of the saga were actually built):
4. The Butlerian Jihad (2002)
5. The Machine Crusade (2003)
6. The Battle of Corrin (2004)
- Dune 7 (as a matter of fact it's an untitled series but it's practically Dune 7, split in two parts and it obviously resumes the story from where Frank Herbert left it in distant 1985):
7. Hunters of Dune (2006)
8. Sandworms of Dune (2007)
--- Heroes of Dune series (it's about a period starting around 15 years before Dune until its very beginning):
9. Paul of Dune (2008)
10. The Winds of Dune (2009)
--- Great Schools of Dune series
11. Sisterhood of Dune (2012)
12. Mentats of Dune (2014)
....
Having only begun the first book, this was really helpful. Great job!
Glad to hear it! I hope you enjoy reading through it all!
I like the scene at the end when everybody bow down to Paul, but Chani did not after he proposed to marry the princes. Chani did not see Paul as her ruler, Paul could only see the love of his life slipping away and the princes saw in Chani the one she will never be. That’s how I interpreted that scene. I love this movie
Having read all of the books about Dune by Frank Herbert and most of the books written by his son and Kevin Anderson starting when I was in 5th grade(Im 61), I have gotten a little nit picky about the deviations. However, with as cerebral as the books are and quite a bit of it being internal dialog, I can see the necessity for the changes made in order to convey the themes. Such as Chani not believing. If they showed her as a follower on screen, it would take away from how strong of a woman Chani actually was. This pair of films was a thousand times better than the one previous where Patrick Stewart played Gurney. If it comes out on disk, I will buy it.
Your breakdown is fair. It could have been a bit better but Making a video of this nature, you would lose audience due to the length it would have to be. So I say, Bravo and well done.
The spice must flow 🎉
Comprehensive
analysis of Dune Part 2!
I kind of feel that those who haven't read the book are getting the impression from the ending that the next movie is going to be all about the battles of the crusade and not afterwards when Paul is victorious on the throne. I wonder what Denis will do. If he shows it, it wouldn't be like the battle at the end of part two where we are rooting for and following individual fighters.
You forgot to mention it is Alia that is supposed to kill the Baton and that affects her until the end of her life.
Chani was such an annoying character, especially in Dune 2. Instead of boosting Paul up and increasing his confidence, she made everything more difficult any chance she got. I think they had to use the voice on her two or three times just to get her to do what she should’ve done willingly. She should understand what Paul is trying to do and at least some sort of understanding of the politics involved. She simply never trusted him. She was a huge distraction and I wish her character was way more supportive.
Watched it twice today, absolutely blown away by it. Wasnt sure about the deviation from the book but D.V. did it so well that now I camt wait for Messiah.Ive never ever given a 10/10 for a film but this is defo 8/10.
OK just seen Dune Part 2 (bootleg), and as expected totally bland Villeneuve style. NOTHING SPECIAL, NOTHING Memorable !! Feels a bit truncated, BUT clearly glorifying war, which is a bit anti-Herbert! Forgettable soundtrack!
No "Father, the Sleeper has Awakened" !!! Ouch!
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@@chasx7062 u need to go to doctor mate, your head is sick
@@chasx7062my favourite line from Dune 84. You've got a point it is a bit war-glorifying but ive always loved Dune for the revenge storyAnd the knife crime is next level too🧐🤣
@@SK4M_Freali have rewatched Dune part1 and the fight scenes were better!!! Part2 is more and more of pointless knife fights, the script was horrible, they could have combined a few fights together....
Please for the love of art and cinematography, make all 6 books on film, this director can do it!
Having read the books numerous times after watchung the first two films i can only hope for an extended cut.
Always love your commentary. Just a quick note. Lasgun is pronounced "Laze-gun" not "Lazz-gun." Literally a contraction of laser gun. And, of course, we know what happens when a lasgun intersects a shield. Nuclear fission. Ouch.
I saw the movie. I don't need the blow by blow. 30 seconds at the end about the end? You need to change the misleading title for this video.
I was actually really suprised how modest the emperor appeared even though he was supposedly the most powerfull man in the universe. while the Harkonen had a literal city planet of black/white doom, the emperor felt really ... underwhelming for me. I kinda wished they had made him a little more pompous and bombastic.
Same goes for the Fremen Sieges. They kinda lacked in size fpr my taste. it was all sand and ruin walls. I expected them to have a little more technology and hive cities ...
Wow, great work, thanks for taking the time to make this video! I watched the movie last night, and although I eagerly anticipated it and thoroughly enjoyed it (and planning to watch again!), I was a bit baffled about the way things turned. I haven't read the books, but according to my understanding of the movie's storytelling, I tend to disagree with the "reckless" characterization of Paul's actions. To me, it seems that for better of for worse, from the moment he drank the water of life and saw whatever it is that he saw in those future timelines and the slim chances of them winning, he was pretty determined and strategic about pursuing that elusive victory. Let's not forget that according to the films version, this victory means freedom for the Fremen as well as taking their planet back; but essentially, it means justice for the rest of the Houses and the people under them as well, since the murderous plotting against the Atreides' House has shown that the Empire is corrupted. I don't know, am I getting something wrong / missing something here?
Thanks for all the explanation
My pleasure!
Great video !!! It covers lots of the story ( only bad I have to say is that @CortexVideos refers to the Fremen as ( indigenous ) and they are
Not indigenous, I would say ( natives or Arrakis )
It is really too bad that they rushed Chani's relationship with Paul, by almost a decade. They cut out the LOSS of their first child (making the barrage of northern seitches a bigger deal). This decision wreaks of the times... they CUT 5-10 years of love story. The essence of their love story was scrubbed so badly, that it appeared as if Paul never even got laid... Can't have a beautiful woman become a mother... love a white man... can't have her be the ultimate supporter of Paul by means of love and serendipity (as it is in real life and in the book)... no no... Chani is a bratty teenager, who stays that way, and is an epic Fedaykin warrior leader, re the last fight planning... worst thing here, it doesn't play her character into any believable future role...All to make it clear that religious fundamentalism and Paul are actually anti-hero forces, which is abundantly clear and could be highlighted without ruining the entire core couple.
This was the best experience in theatre in my entire life ngl.
Your review and the film(s) are excellent. 5 stars😊
Thank you! Im glad you enjoyed the video and the film!
Thank you. Love from Belgium! ✌🏾
This is the best movie I’ve ever seen, an absolute masterclass in cinema.
An excellent explanation of the film plot and helpful comparisons with the original novel. I read the book when it was first published - quite some time ago!
I've always wondered, how do they get off of the worm? Does the worm have brakes? Do they just jump off?
they get tired they say and they jump or dismount off then and the hooks pulls up the skin of the worm so the worms stay above sand to avoid sand on their open flesh.
Great production quality, but the rewrite to elevate Chani to a major character with all the worst behaviors of modern women in western world was beyond terrible..... it is nefariois.
Chani is, unsupportive, openly combative, and apart from some longing stares is a rom-com level of toxic girlfriend who behaves like a petulant child, constantly undermines Paul, and does literally nothing to deserve the levek of commitment from Paul. A highly competent man who magically turns into a doe eyed simp in her presence and expresses his undying love simply because she exists.
Flash backs of John snow in Final season of GoT.
Icing on the cake was giving her the final sceene storming off in selfish tantrum instead of staying to support her high status man.
Every woman who wants to be in a relationship wants a high status man, but young women who think they can behave like her and get a high status man to commit is in for bitter disappointment......
Wall street is absolutely right. Start investing in liquor and cat food companies. The world will be full of bitter, loney women, unable to take responsibility for thier poor choices. The women who do actually know how to be in a supportive healthy relationship with a man will clean up. You dont want to be a 35 year old single woman prowling night clubs for bodies and drowning in booze to escape the reality of wasted youth.
Young women dont let those bitter middle aged women convince you to make the same poor choices.
Want to be truly happy? Marry Young, be incredibly supportive of a man before he becomes successful and he will give you the world. start a family young. You will keep your figure later in life and have a far more rewarding life than being a wage slave in a mid-level career you dont even like.
There are so few few traditional women left in the Western World you will get real princess treatment
Never heard of dune finally watched part 1 and went to go see part 2 yesterday. This can be a nee favorite saga for me hopefully we get a 3rd movie.
@34:41 What Paul chose to do wasn't reckless, but rather a well-considered decision. After consuming the water of life, Paul's visions became more distinct. He confided in his mother that he could only envision one future where they achieved victory. Interestingly, during his explanation, he even foresaw himself being stabbed with a blade. He cleverly deceived Feyd into believing that he had the advantage.
Dune 2 is a love story and I found that the ending was so powerful because the music is a variable of the Paul-Chani love theme.
I think they slightly over-played Chani's opposition to the prophecy, she was upset because she was losing her boyfriend, who then marries the princess and takes Chani's people on a galactic jihad. The while thing is heart breaking, not the least of which is Paul sadly giving the order to Lead them to Paradise.
“There is no man here that can challenge me!”
I was under the impression all 3 of Feyd's gladiator opponents were captured Atriedes soldiers, not just onoe
They were.
Harkonnen dudes kept on getting their necks slashed when they recommended their leader get rest. I’m like, shut yer mouth dude…you crazy??!! These ain’t normal employers hoping you got some work life balance!!😂
Just saw it a second time. Perfect
Paul’s choice to fight Feyd wasn’t out of “reckless abandon.” You forgot that Paul has future sight. He knew he would kill Feyd and he knew how to do it.
I'd be happy if Dune Messiah was 4 hours long. I cannot get enough of this franchise.
Darth Vader vibes emerges .. loved the movie
Oh yes anakin for sure
Chani’s reaction to Paul’s marriage to Princess Irulah is a deviation from the book. Hopefully she comes back in the next part. The princess is portrayed surprisingly docile here as opposed to what was understood in the books… hmmmm I wonder what they have in mind though, I just hope they don't make it like it's the Princess that reproduce’s Paul’s heir.
I thought it was a nice surprise and it kind of supported my irritation with the southern Freemen.
When I read the books in about the '70-ties the Freemen just irrated me, now 40 years or so later with Islamic terrorism haven taken full flight, they repulse me.
In just under 24 hours I'll be right there at the center of an IMAX room watching the beginning of the movie and I physically cannot wait. The Dune messiah movie has to happen
It is!
Messiah was confirmed by Denis. Just saw the movie, you will not be disappointed
How about children of Dune 🥹
@@angelayang5183sorry, i think it’ll just be a trilogy, with the first two adapting the first book and the third adapting messiah as a satisfying conclusion
Yeah just saw the interview on one of the talk shows with Denis saying something like "a final visit to arrakis closing the Paul Atreides story"
Honestly, can't complain. They've set the bar so high for sci-fi movies now.
I didn’t the portal of Chani in this. They tried to make a strong woman character but ended up with just another emotional sidelined female character. Her character in the book is already strong with her killing challengers that come for Paul, and the line at the end “history will know us as wives” just sells the whole point and for Denis to take that away feels wrong to me. Also did the film not have a two year time skip?? Like the book? Cause if it did, then Jessica had Alia in her womb for two years!?
It was 5 years or so in the books and prior movies, but instead they made it around 7months only which is not that much time at all for that story to play out. Also I found Chani's character annoying in this adaptation as she was mainly sulking and upset with him versus being a supportive partner.
@@celestinegardener The was a very funny jealousy mechanic in Dune2 between the Love (Chani) and the Mother (Jessica) competing for Paul. This was true hate & rivalry under the guise of fighting for their ideologies (Fremen patriotism vs. Bene Gesserit power/religion).
@@celestinegardener yes same! Chanis character wasn’t done right at all, in the book she supports Paul and trust him and loves him and in the movie it seemed as the story went she hated him more and more
Ya it was a bit of wokeness chucked into the mix. Gotta have a strong, independent woman versus a loving partner.. @@pluto5067
She is more like her descendant Sheeana from the late books than Chani.
Thank you for all the work it took to put this together I loved it
I'm going to the theater next weekend I need the spoilers to understand the movie.
If someone don't explain me the movie I probably don't understand what is going on
No dude, it was actually very easy to follow, much easier than part 1
everybody’s like “gibbs me dat spice 🤙” and the Harkonnens are like “okay dawg chill,” and the Fremen are like “nah-uh,” and then they all fight, and a few people drink some blue Kool-Aid.
@@Sam_T2000 Don't forget the spacing guild & the Benes having autistic meltdown when things don't get their way. 😂
All you have to do is read the novel, by Frank Herbert.
It is the SOURCE MATERIAL; it is the REASON why Villeneuve could make this film, and it is the REASON why the movie is so good.
Great breakdown however, the ending I remember was Paul accepting the empowers champion, Gerne asking Paul to fight him and “not wait his time on this filth.” And Paul telling Gerne no basically. I don’t remember Ratha “tricking” or forcing Paul to fight.
Thanks for this breakdown. LOVED IT and what a great movie.
All these events have taken place between the death of Paul’s father and people and the birth of his Sister. The birth never occurred in the movie. Too many deviations for my taste but, the movie is outstanding.
I believe Paul had already seen himself plunge the dagger into Rautha and thus probably agrees to fight him. Cause in the first half of the movie there is a clip shown regarding the dagger when Paul has visions of the aftermath if he travels to the South.
I liked Dune Part 2. Yet I have 1 major nitpick. Alia Atraties got robbed! Spoiler Alert, duh. She was supposed to kill the Baron! I might forgive because Anya Taylor-Joy will nail it as Alia. We'll see.
Great overview 🎉🎉
I'm a fan of the Villeneuve Dune world and the David Lynch Dune. I loved sharing it with my GF. This is a film that will be watchable many times to get the whole experience. I believe Dune is a metaphor or say a revelation of Kardiff type 3-to 4 Galactic civilization and I realized this is what it would look like, I imagined myself popped into Iracus and this is the feeling I would get....the feeling that this is not Kansas Toto. That was my biggest takeaway from this film, left me with a bigger impact then Villeneuve 1st Dune. Though this movie did not go into why everybody was fighting over control of Icarcus and Spice.
The Lynch version explained that Spice could "Fold space" make galactic travel instantaneous.
I did the double bill and maybe because of that, where part 1 feels languidly steeped in the strangeness of the Dune universe, part 2 felt a little rushed in a fair few places, important places at that. Maybe I just need to see it 5 or 6 more times though, you know, to let it all sink in 😁
Reading the original novel is the best thing to do to understand the storyline.
It is the source material, and it answers all questions; clears up all confusion.
Exactly part 2, even I felt a little bit rushed in the second half of the film and in most important places, its just there are scenes and characters which are unexplored and rushed
I thought Jessica got sick because she is pregnant.
I think it was both.
@@Sam_T2000 Makes sense.
Could be a bit of both tbh. My immediate thought was the draining of body water she was seeing that mainly caused it.
14:43
Yup morning sickness. 10 out of 10 times a woman pukes on screen, preggo. The harvesting of the water was not gross at all 😂
I like the soap opera drama and twist that’s my grandpa and cousin fighting each other and he leaves his girl for another lol that’s gonna be wild