Eugenics, Evolution, and a Death-Driven Worldview
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- Evolution is undoubtedly a death-driven worldview, and holding this worldview can play out in a variety of horrible ways: eugenics, abortion, euthanasia, and more.
Host Trey and Dr. Randy Guliuzza discuss this important topic on episode 59 of The Creation Podcast!
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I read this story probably apocryphal many years ago.
Margaret Mead was asked what she believed was the first sign of civilization.
Her surprising response was when a skeleton was found with a healed thigh bone.
Because no one survives with a broken thigh bone. You can't walk, you can't hunt, you're helpless for several months.
This meant there were people who carried this person and supplied all their needs. People who yes dragged this person around even though they could contribute nothing.
And eugenetics? Just be careful you don't suddenly find yourself on the wrong side of the line.
Because civilization and Christianity is displayed by how we care for the least of these.
I was offered that test. It was called amniocentesis at the time my daughter was in gestation about 20 years ago. The doctor said there was a risk of my child having a disease like Down's Syndrome.
In retrospect, why did they even offer me such a test? We must be careful. Good video gentlemen, Thank you.
Even moreso now. My neighbor had the test, and the baby died two weeks after birth. Heartbreaking. Don't do it!
16:15 I'm immediately reminded of certain very questionable statements made by Bill Gates.... 🙄
Actually it is humanities "shameful past". The whole world did slavery practically since the dawn of time.
But "shameful" ONLY if life has real value and meaning and all doesn't just fade to black in the end...
Rousseau thought that slavery started with agriculture
@@jessebryant9233 There doesn't have to be a creator for there to be morality.
@@nathancook2852
For there to be objective moral values and duties there does. But if you just wish to pretend...
Thanks for all this amazing information. It is a blessing for my family, specially when our kids have to confront and refuse the arguments of many profesors in a "christian university", which insists in the "Theistic Evolution" thinking. Many greetings from my son Samuel P. to Dr. G. We would like to see you again. Blessings to you all guys.
You will not debunk evolution by blaming it for the problems your religion has caused.
If you attempt to use those “arguments” found in this video in an actual college classroom, you’re going to get publicly humiliated.
Basically, we're living in a very stupid time
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
bravo
Thanks
Thank you!
Additional recommendation: Creation Science with Philip Stott
The science of covid-19 and the vaxx happened the same way as Eugenics
I was hot flashing at the doctor the other day, and the test technician shared with me that she was flashing as well. I told her that she looked way too young be going through menopause. She told me that right after she got the C-vax, her cycles stopped almost immediately. It has never returned as yet. Unwitting sterilization?
Glad to see some can see what’s happening
You sound like a conspiracy theorist. This is what happens when you start elevating what you hear with your ears and see with your own eyes up there with what you are told.
Not unwittingly. Many doctors spoke out about this during the "development" of the shot. They were completely ignored or aggressively silenced and canceled. This shows it wasn't "unwitting" but completely planned.
@@satkinson5505 Conspiracy theorist? That is the best insult you can throw? I think elevating what you are being told beyond what you can see and hear (ie verify yourself) is far more dangerous than the opposite. That happened in nazi germany, in soviet union, communistic china, north korea etc. And the latest during corona where lots and lots of people tried to speak against the tyrannical practices that was put upon us, and people like you were at the forefront slaving your fellow people. Shame on you.
Do i really have to remind you that it is good to be on guard against rulers, against governments and against institutions who really do not care about our health and well being more than they care about profits and looks. Especially since for example bill gates is a renown depopulationist and he, as you should know, funds different vaccine companies.
Don't be so naive and think there is nothing going on in the world, don't be so blind to think that there isn't malicious groups in existence, or conspiracies.
@@oztrich24 Idiot. Vaccines may have side effects, or this may be something else entirely. The vast majority of the people who got the vaccine are perfectly fine. No thanks to those who didn't get the vaccine and wittingly spread COVID. How many died because you all didn't get vaxed?
I wish to thank you for sharing this informational Podcast video with me .
Our shameful past? Hmm... Evil is evil no matter where and when it happens. (There is NO collective shame here folks.) You are ONLY responsible for your own sins.
All peoples had slaves and were slaves. Some parts of Africa and the Middle East still practice slavery. America's past was actually more noble than that of many other nations considering some nations have committed wholesale slaughter of their own citizens.
I inherited my progenitors inclinations, therefore it seems to be more than just my sins. All my sins are washed away, and my progenitors as well, through the blood of Christ. PTL!
I think it's referencing a shameful history. It we don't know the true history, we typically repeat it.
Bears become whales? That's a very acceptable idea. That's Darwinian.
Sarcasm doesn't read well in print.
Thank you
@travisbicklepopsicle You missed an important word in all of your examples. That word is "THEORY". Do you know what the definiion of that word is?
Forced sterilization continues in prisons.
Good
"Unfit" reminds me of CPS
I had not even thought about monopoly as an expression of Social Darwinism (which is really an expression of the will to power). I think it's also rooted in the Labor unrest of the 1840s and the freeing of the serfs in Russia (and the inferior position of the ethnic Russian peasant in relation to the imperial peasantry of Russia and the commensurate class fear). Very good stuff. And Trey: never stop calling this stuff "grose" because that helps people understand it!
re you aware that the ‘Russian Peasants” were actually better off under the Imperial Russian system?
Many were not ‘serfs’ but actually ‘owned’ a tiny part of the land they worked ( due to the system that, unlime most European Feudalism, required that inheritance be DIVIDED among children rather than going to only one. The primary landowner was REQUIRED to regard the welfare of his kesser landowners
Human GREED and SJW ‘s of the 19th century caused the collapse of Russia, and the resulting horrors.
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34:50 - Start a club?? Isn't that EXACTLY what those who subscribe to evolution claim about... ICR? (Just like politics... it's opposite day?)
Hey, hello! Sorry to distract you from your topic, but have you demonstrated the existence of God yet?
You can't have creationism without a creator, right?
This podcast wasn't meant to discuss the existence of God. Other podcasts in this series do.
@@cewoldt I'm not asking if they have "discussed" the existence of God. You can discuss anything. I'm asking if they have demonstrated the existence of God. You can't just "discuss" things into existence.
Well the brain generate some wat of electrivity can you tell how a baby get this?the child is concieved upsidedown God designed not evolution(theorist guess God dress and we wear)
Question is did eugenics ever go away ?
No😢
No
Eugenics is not just an idea, it’s being put into practice today and people just blindly overlook it.
Hopefully "man" will get that wrong as he does with so many other things. I'd just hate to be one of the guinea pigs though that end up "wrong". lol.
@@mirandahotspring4019 " eugenics is now .....think of the past "
Nonsense
in 2012 the senate of australia launched an inquiry into often non consensual sterel8sation of girls and women with disabilities
in 2013 corey johnson of the center of investigative reporting revealed that women in california state prison system had been recently sterilised sometimes even without their knowledge
at the end of 2014 at least 12 women has died in after undergoing sexual sterilisations as a part of programe aimed to control poverty trough population containment
these typically low caste women died of blood poisoning or hemorrhagic shock following their sterelisations
being part of of extensive and routine sterel8sarion program
in central indian state of chhattisgarh
@@mirandahotspring4019 acording to united nations statistics 37 per cent of Indian women have undergone sexsual sterelisation
if its not enough I can write about peru 300 000 forced sterel8sations
etc
it's just tip of an iceberg
unfortunately you are right
Amen ICR. Hitler learned eugenics from a university in California 🙏🙏🙏
that's right
nazis delegates pseudo
doctors before 2ww
to learn from usa contraparts
about eugenics forced sterelisation etc
An entertaining and easy-to-understand conversation about Genesis creation and evolution debate is the book Axis of Beginning.
For the world, "peer review" = Holy Writ.
@@travisbicklepopsicle
1. Projecting how exactly? Why are you claiming that? If I'm wrong, why do so many, rather than appealing to empirical science, instead appeal to "peer review"?
2. Are you saying that you don't really know anything at all for absolute certain? That all you really have is... faith? Faith in who or what and why? Maybe the "scientists" who "peer review" stuff?
@@travisbicklepopsicle
Agreed! Peer review ≠ holy writ! Exactly!! But it isn't me who is acting as if "peer review" = holy writ, it is the atheists, the naturalists, the atheists who do this. For them, peer review is the end-all, be-all... Even if it is subject to change without notice. Is there a consensus among scientists? Well then, it is gospel truth! That's how the world acts.
Depopulation is a mathematical certainty
Infinite growth on a finite planet. And we don't have to do a thing, nature will choose the method for us. Grace
Great interview! Every pastor should do a sermon series on intelligent design versus darwinism every year to inoculate impressionable students before they head off to college.
You mean "indoctrinate." There is zero science behind an intelligent design.
HE MADE THIS STUFF UP OUT OF THE BLUE. HE SAID
IT TOO A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE IT LIKE IT WAS TRUE. I SEE HOW EVIL ACT
LIKE THAT MESS A LOT OF
PEOPLE TOO BELIEVE B. S.
& WE HAVE THE WORD GOD
TELLING US THAT WE WERE
CREATED IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
BUT NO THEY DIDN'T WANT
TO BELIEVE THE REAL WORD
OF GOD ! IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
HAVE EVER NOTICED THAT
MAN LOVE'S TO MAKE THINGS CAMELCATED PUT
THAT'S WHAT MAN DOES.
✝️ 🙂 !
The church of Jesus Christ has a sin problem which is an enemy of a Christ like intellect. Wrong-headedness is a wickedness for which Christ payed a dear price in his atoning work at the cross. “All we like sheep have gone astray and turned everyone to his own way. And the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. “
Ummm, as humans, we all have a sinful nature nature.
What is God?
If you read the Bible, it will introduce you to him. He is our creator for one. He is eternal and wants us to have a relationship with him through his son, Jesus Christ, who is also God. He has given us a chance at eternal life and it’s up to us to choose whether we want that gift.
@@hillbillytarzan what if you don’t want eternal life?
@@mirandahotspring4019
Atheism: Fiction for those who are afraid of the light.
@@ZachKnight-tk7tbthe. You will be eternally dead after the white throne judgement. Unlike most Christians teach there is no eternal life of torture in hell. God is not evil like that.
@@mirandahotspring4019... until He wakes you up on a midnight highway just before you can crash into a concrete wall at 100 kilometres per hour.
Sir ,i am Harshit, - to deal with the problem of Dual nature of light , I discover ' Morse-code model of Light ' ,this model proof non monochromatic nature of light. and this model is also explain Radiation effect . this model also explain diffraction effect of light. sir please pay attention to my model, it can help in physics.
It hasn’t fallen out of practice. We just call it medical assisted death now look at Canada.
How is medical assisted death comparable to eugenics? Anyone that could be considered for this procedure is incapable of having children, due to old age or whatever terminal illness is killing them slowly and painfully. Given this, the person would not pass their genome down to the next generation, regardless of whether medically assisted death was adminstered or not.
You can make moral arguments against euthenasia, but it is not comparable to eugenics!
Creationists/Christians hypocrisy knows no bounds. Reading the Bible makes atheists. Lying on TH-cam is easy, it's what Creationists/Christians do best.
" makes atheists "
how many of them stay atheists for life
not that many approximately 1 on 10
rest are on market again
the fastest growing religion at the moment are shamanism second place viccan
if your gol is to disqust christianity
you can be happy
you guys are overlooking one very important factor
humans are very spiritual creatures
not everyone can or wants to be sceptical for life
@@nauticalmiles8752
I became an atheist at the age of 13.
@@YeshuaisnotJesus you were still a child
just observation
now you become
activist
promoting atheism to others
your choice
The Bible turns Atheists into Christians too, so there's that..
@@nauticalmiles8752Actually christianity is on the decline and islam and now belief are rapidly going to surpass it soon.
More lies.
Hold on, you want to talk about "shameful past"?
How about the shameful past, and present, of Christianity? After all, your religion is fine with slavery, genocide, infanticide, misogyny, and basically all of the underlying tenets of eugenics. Where in scripture is eugenics even hinted at being condemned?
Also, let's say that eugenics really is based on sound evolutionary scientific data. So? That doesn't make evolution false, or bad.
Sadly you can't force christians to take a serious look at the old testament and see for themselves what a cruel character their god really is if we were to believe the bible.
I have a Rolex watch that I bought for $10 in Africa. The African trader guaranteed it was genuine, and it had the Rolex name on the face and the back. Well, if it claims to be genuine, why question that? All watches branded as "Rolex" must be genuine. Doesn't make sense? Neither does your assertion that everything done in the name of Christ make sense.
@@cewoldt : your story does not have relation whatsoever to the history of christianity.
Are you trying to explain the history of christianity has nothing to do with christianity?
" when in scripture ..eugenics hinted condemned "
2 ww etc is also not hinted and condemned
so ??
with rest of history's events
what do you talking about??????
your religion is fine with ...slavery genocide infanticide misogyny.."
as a someone who want to learn
I am asking you to provide sufficient supporting evidence proof
on your assertions
can you do that ???
Rather then I should trust those who believe in demons, dragons, gods and all manor of magic? Those who would live in fear of imaginary beings instead of the beauty and wonder of the natural universe?😅😂😂😂😂😂
How do you know that NONE of those things exist and that God is imaginary? Maybe emojis are your a-game? Maybe you can mock but not reason? And what do you mean by "beauty" and "wonder"? What caused that natural universe and the laws it obeys to begin to exist? WHY should I embrace your worldview?
So the last forced sterilization was the same year that Roe v Wade went into effect?
🤔
And now, some women are sterilized after the V, and Roe v Wade has been reversed. Hmmmm
People understand what Eugenics is, but it is here, right now, in encouraging children to want to change their gender. The puberty blockers if not the operation removing body parts, renders them sterile. Perhaps it is what is “not said” to the public, that if you fall for this, you should not reproduce as you are not sharp enough to see how unnatural and immoral this is.
The author of Ecclesiastes said “there is no new thing under the sun which has not been thought of before”.
Abortion is a second cousin in that both transgendering, ends with a population which is not replacing themselves. Then they bring in people who they think that they can control, the reason for the open border, while at the same time, the Fentanyl is aimed at vulnerable children of the population who do not know the dangers of the drug and who are likely Republican. This is population control.
There is ZERO science that confirms scripture! LMAO
You are willingly ignorant and intellectually dishonest because the evidence for creation will shatter your atheist delusions.
Attention seeking is a lame attempt at mocking. Which topic were you referring to in scripture that you think is lacking in science? I can discuss extensive science, but where do you want to start? You don't know what you're talking abou, you're trying to mock but without data😅
@@UserRandJ No! You are the one claiming its science so lets see it!
It is your claim, you need to own it!!
Show me the peer review by real scientists?
Show me the verified observations by real scientists?
Show me the evidence for new life forms springing out of thin air during creation?!
What science exactly. Because any scientific field I've ever looked at has no real evidence to it coming from an atheistic world view. They simply cherry pick the parts that seem to back up their empty theories. But Christian scientists have shown excellent proof of biblical evidence that clearly refutes secular false science.
@twosheds1749. Same data just different ways of interpreting. One side is consistent with the data in line with what one would expect. Then we have the evolutionist who must come up with creative ways to explain why data doesn’t fit their theories. Proverbs 12:23 KJV - A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness.
(Creationists) Don't Trust These People.
Predestination, Creationism and a Wish-driven Worldview.
0:38 And there it is again....."IN MY OPINION".
1:48 "Can you explain to me what eugenics is?".
3:35 "Eu...meaning good(partially correct)...Genes...meaning genes(woefully incorrect).
Eugenics: meaning> good, well, come into being, growing.
Eugenics as a concept predates the term. Plato suggested applying the principles of selective breeding to humans around 400 BCE. Early advocates of eugenics in the 19th century regarded it as a way of improving groups of people. In contemporary usage, the term eugenics is closely associated with scientific racism. *Modern bioethicists who advocate new eugenics characterize it as a way of enhancing individual traits, regardless of group membership, not because of it.
In February 2017, the United States National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM) Committee on Human Gene Editing published a report reviewing ethical, legal, and scientific concerns of genomic engineering technology. The conclusion of the report stated that heritable genome editing is impermissible now *but could be justified for certain medical conditions; however, they did not justify the usage of CRISPR for *enhancement.
CRISPR-Cas-based "RNA-guided nucleases" can be used to target virulence factors, genes encoding antibiotic resistance, and other medically relevant sequences of interest. This technology thus represents a novel form of antimicrobial therapy and a strategy by which to manipulate bacterial populations. Recent studies suggest a correlation between the interfering of the CRISPR-Cas locus and acquisition of antibiotic resistance.This system provides protection of bacteria against invading foreign DNA, such as transposons, bacteriophages, and plasmids. This system was shown to be a strong selective pressure for the acquisition of antibiotic resistance and virulence factor in bacterial pathogens.
The CRISPR treatment for LCA10 (the most common variant of Leber Congenital Amaurosis which is the leading cause of inherited childhood blindness) modifies the patient's defective photoreceptor gene.
Human immunodeficiency virus or HIV, is a virus that attacks the body's immune system. While effective treatments exist which can allow patients to live healthy lives, HIV is retroactive meaning that it embeds an inactive version of itself in the human genome. CRISPR can be used to selectively remove the virus from the genome by designing guide RNA to target the retroactive HIV genome.
Type 1 Diabetes is an endocrine disorder which results from a lack of pancreatic beta cells to produce insulin, a vital compound in transporting blood sugar to cells for producing energy. Researchers have been trying to transplant healthy beta cells. CRISPR is used to edit the cells in order to reduce the chance the patient's body will reject the transplant.
So, that is considered advancement, just in, Infection,Blindness, HIV and Diabetes, or Health, Well- being, good health, and good being.....NOT SCIENTIFIC RACISM...so sorry.
Or, I guess we could just follow your lead and wish whilst we pray for them all to just go away.
Good luck with that then.
Footnote: Death is a natural process, not a supernatural shuttle.
Fear of death is the spoonful of cod-liver oil.
Religion is the spoonful of honey.