Totally agree...Xiang and Fischl will never not be excellent units :) So flexible, so powerful, so accessible at C0. Also, its never a good idea to pull on 4 stars **unless* they're on a banner for a 5star you actually want. Almost always, buy 4 star cons in the shop!! p.s. I'm a dolphin/minnow spender - only get battlepass for the serpent spine refines. YMMV if money's no object
c6 yes, acc an insane char in a certain comp, at c0 she works but you are lying to yourself if you are claiming ur not using a tank and a half of copium per rotation
id put collei higher by 1 tier and put mika in con locked and swap yunjin with kachina. collei is super nice if you dont have nahida and usually you use her in conjunction with dendro traveller for bloom teams. mika is suppose to be the physical buffer but locked behind cons. kachina is a budget albedo but also a buffer because of the artifact set. most of yunjins buffing is niche and locked behind cons so kinda meh. other than that i agree with the list.
Kachina is literally useless the moment a better natlan character drop she will be forgotten how is she better than yunjin? She buffs NA almost to Bennett level and many characters use her like yoimyia, ayato, wriothesly and other normal attacker's, her place is perfect. And even if u didn't have nahida no ones uses collei her application is so bad and inconsistent, just use kirara instead
@@zoe-ks7si hmm true, you right. Probably just my recency bias for kachina. If only yunjin can also use the new natlan set. She'd actually be a secret op support.
Back in the oldy days of genshin having c6 was easy, if you didnt get c6 in 1 banner it would take like 6 ish banners to see the same 4star again. They took all that and kept going with it to this day
Kachina is a walking 40 percent damage bonus buffer for the whole team. She is the chevruse for every team except for dendro and anemo characters. And if you build her with enough em, you can continuously create good crystallize shields too. That's definitely in the top most tier.
You will only buff Geo and one other element (whatever you cristallize) and I agree, the set is broken, but Kachina is not. I think in 1-2 months, once enough Natlan characters are out, Kachina will probably be benched by most players. So I would just level her so she doesn't die immediately, but other than that, don't invest in her. The set works on level 20 characters as well ;)
Yeah but her comparison here is not with future natlan characters, it's with the current set of 4 stars right? We don't know about the future but right now she is the best geo buffer and the best support for mualani. In fact she's also the best 4 star support for mono hydro teams. That is top tier. Among the released 4 stars, she is on the same level as chevruse
I understand what you mean, but Chevreuse works without a specific artifact set. It's her that has the buffs in her talents. Kachina does not, she is bound to Cinder City and that is the main reason why she is used at all. This tier list is about building, I'm not saying don't use Kachina. But it's probably not worth your resin to max out her talents, weapon etc.
I slightly disagree with some characters but, this is a very good tier list... I know everyone will have their own opinions and satisfying everyone is almost impossible... I am very very satisfied with this tier list...
@@JoveCana i knew people use him and he’s good but i just never really considered using him on my team for whatever reason haha im building him now though!
disagree about Beidou and Xiangling... they're both worth building at C0 because of their AOE dmg. And both perfectly workable at C0 as long as they're built with enough ER to burst consistently. Agree about Sayu though.... she's really slept on. If built 4VV with high ATK, enough ER to burst consistently, and a Fav/Sacrificial, she provides so much utility to the team: res shred, some swirls, er battery, healing. Obviously outclassed by Jean and other anemo users, but still a great option for players who have no other anemo specialists.
full disclosure, I have a C6 Sayu now. But she was good enough to support me through all early to mid game stages ((she was my first C6, so I have a soft spot for her). ) Today she's full EM with R5 Rainslasher, so she's actually a great hyperbloom driver. And still provides enough team healing to support my Furina teams. Don't sleep on Sayu!
@@JoveCana ehhh, beidou is very situational and she only brings dmg and has some energy issues, without cons her dmg just isn’t worth it, and Xianglings uptime is awful without c4 and she’s replaceable in most teams
@@Nine_Guinea_Pigs sure, Beidou IS a specialist. But she's fantastic at her specialty, so if/when you need to dispatch trash mobs or exactly 2 main foes, she's great. Her so called ER issues is really overblown. She can battery herself, even with mediocre ER stats, as long as you can reliably perfect counter. And that doesn't even consider pairing her with Fischl, one of the best battery units. I still have her at only 132 ER since I prioritized her CR/CD in her build, and I routinely battery her burst every rotation. It's easy and fun when you get the hang of it.... now she wipes out entire trash mobs with a single perfect counter. That's why I think she's such a rewarding unit to play.... the better your skill, the better she is. Definitely worth building if you're willing to put in the time and effort.
Sucrose cope everywhere, there's a reason why almost nobody plays her unless they need to make a video about her. Let's face it: she is strong theoretically but not practically
Kujou Sara is not mid c0 insane c6. She is barely useful at c0 and only good in hyper teams at c6. Faruzan c6 not only provides a crit damage buff, but resets the anemo resistance shred and generates added energy particles due to c4. In contrast, Kujou Sara's first 4 constellations provide her personal damage, an aspect for which she is outclassed by Fischl every time on equal investment. Another thing I dislike about the list is how low Heizou is. He is still good in taser and aggravate, and though usually worse than Sucrose, still worth considering for newer accounts with few characters. I think it's important to encourage newer players to build reaction based teams, rather than hyper teams, considering that the former needs lower levels of investment into artifact farming.
couldn't agree more. I have randomly compiled C4 Kujou Sara, but I **still** use my C1 Fischl in every team that needs electro off field damage/buff. I've tried Sarah with my C1 Raiden.... almost useless, and super clunky to work with. Fischl is pretty much set and forget, and is a much better battery. Will wait until I get C6 Sarah to fully build her out.
also agree re: Heizou. I used him to drive Beidou taser teams until I got a Sucrose who provided better overall damage even if her personal damage was lower than Heizou's. Haven't tested it, but I think Heizou might actually pull ahead of Sucrose in off field vape teams. Heizou will always be a good enough unit until you get Sucrose or Kazuha, so if that's the only option he's definitely worth building.
I disafreebwith noell she needs lot of energy and is ki da co stelstion locked im sorry And if sayis mats wherent i azuma locked i would put her above noell anytime
Bruh, this is bad. Gaming, why is he in optional? The guy gets 36% crit rate FOR FREE! Even without Furina. He's THE BEST 4 star DPS you'll get at C0 next to Fischl or Kuki. Rosaria, the gal that is less constalation dependent than Xiangling (who is apparently a must without C4 or Raiden but whatever). Teamwide Crit Rate and not as bad energy issues. She's more worth building than Beidou. You've placed Charlotte abive her?! WHY?! To support Nuevillette?! Girl, come on. You can't be doing that while also putting Sayu at the bottom of the list. YUN JIN?! That is a COMPLETE SKIP. Nobody uses her optimally. Lisa and Sethos's should be in the same tier. Kachina should be in the second highest tier because... Hello, a walking useful artefact set that only she can trigger as of now. Candace is C6 locked. Ning shouldn't be built by anyone. Those were the major things but it's still not good overall.
Xiangling at C0 is dogsh1t, and Chongyun at C0 is actually good now if you have Xianyun on the account. The "if you really like them" tier makes no sense, because it's the same as "do not bother" Your tier lists criteria is muddy and I suggest clearing things like account assumptions up in the future
Well, it's a 4 star list, so I didn't assume you have a certain 5 star for Chongyun. Also, XL is still the best off-feld pyro applicator and does good damage.
@@Mr.Mondstadt and it's just as valuable as Chongyun being a good cryo infuser, because at C0 her energy issues are awful, her uptime is just as bad without C4 and her damage is also mid. C0 Xiangling is actively painful. So is C0 Sucrose. So is C0 Xingqiu. But he at least can only apply hydro and it'll be enough, he doesn't have THAT many issues as Xianglig and Sucrose do. That's why I said you should make account assumptions clearer. There's no way an account will have zero 5*. If we assume only 4* exist then it's going to be completely different world. Are you comparing 4* to each other or are you giving overall recommendations? That's the differance.
The assumption was C0 f2p Account. If you get cons, cool, but if not, who's worth building. Of course they get even better with cons, but it might take time. I have C0 XL to this day and I use her all the time, even used her for 36 staring abyss this time (1st half to break cryo shield)
I really recommend buying cons in the shop over pulls. Xiangling and fischl cons are very very worthwhile
Totally agree...Xiang and Fischl will never not be excellent units :) So flexible, so powerful, so accessible at C0.
Also, its never a good idea to pull on 4 stars **unless* they're on a banner for a 5star you actually want.
Almost always, buy 4 star cons in the shop!!
p.s. I'm a dolphin/minnow spender - only get battlepass for the serpent spine refines. YMMV if money's no object
You clearly never tried to build Dori lol
c6 yes, acc an insane char in a certain comp, at c0 she works but you are lying to yourself if you are claiming ur not using a tank and a half of copium per rotation
id put collei higher by 1 tier and put mika in con locked and swap yunjin with kachina. collei is super nice if you dont have nahida and usually you use her in conjunction with dendro traveller for bloom teams. mika is suppose to be the physical buffer but locked behind cons. kachina is a budget albedo but also a buffer because of the artifact set. most of yunjins buffing is niche and locked behind cons so kinda meh. other than that i agree with the list.
Kachina is literally useless the moment a better natlan character drop she will be forgotten how is she better than yunjin? She buffs NA almost to Bennett level and many characters use her like yoimyia, ayato, wriothesly and other normal attacker's, her place is perfect. And even if u didn't have nahida no ones uses collei her application is so bad and inconsistent, just use kirara instead
@@zoe-ks7si hmm true, you right. Probably just my recency bias for kachina. If only yunjin can also use the new natlan set. She'd actually be a secret op support.
FINALLY WHO THINKS COLLEI IS GOOD
Gutes Videos, kannst du mal eine 5.0 Tierlistb von allen Charakteren machen (:
ty for doing a c0 video 🫶🫶🫶, idk why creators expect us to c6 all 4 stars now a days
Genuinely too! You can wish on character banners all the way to 50/50 AND guaranteed and not even get c1 of one of the boosted 4 stars.
Back in the oldy days of genshin having c6 was easy, if you didnt get c6 in 1 banner it would take like 6 ish banners to see the same 4star again. They took all that and kept going with it to this day
1.0 mindset mate, it was much easier to C6 4 stars
Would really love to see that C0 5 star list. As a new player, this was very helpful. Greetings from a fellow Mondstadtler ;)
I kind of regret building Heizou. His damage just doesn't impress me as an on field DPS, and his grouping/swirl AoE is very limited.
THANK YOU. NOBODY ELSE DOES THIS
Kachina is a walking 40 percent damage bonus buffer for the whole team. She is the chevruse for every team except for dendro and anemo characters. And if you build her with enough em, you can continuously create good crystallize shields too. That's definitely in the top most tier.
You will only buff Geo and one other element (whatever you cristallize) and I agree, the set is broken, but Kachina is not. I think in 1-2 months, once enough Natlan characters are out, Kachina will probably be benched by most players. So I would just level her so she doesn't die immediately, but other than that, don't invest in her. The set works on level 20 characters as well ;)
Yeah but her comparison here is not with future natlan characters, it's with the current set of 4 stars right? We don't know about the future but right now she is the best geo buffer and the best support for mualani. In fact she's also the best 4 star support for mono hydro teams. That is top tier. Among the released 4 stars, she is on the same level as chevruse
I understand what you mean, but Chevreuse works without a specific artifact set. It's her that has the buffs in her talents. Kachina does not, she is bound to Cinder City and that is the main reason why she is used at all. This tier list is about building, I'm not saying don't use Kachina. But it's probably not worth your resin to max out her talents, weapon etc.
One of the most informative video ive seen in quite a while
I slightly disagree with some characters but, this is a very good tier list... I know everyone will have their own opinions and satisfying everyone is almost impossible... I am very very satisfied with this tier list...
i have c5 bennet and hes level 1 with no weapon or artifacts LOL this was a wakeup call
Glad if I could help😅
bro, what are you doing? C0 Benny is a must build lol.
@@JoveCana i knew people use him and he’s good but i just never really considered using him on my team for whatever reason haha im building him now though!
Gaming is one of strongest pyro 4 star dps in game
Beidou and Xiangling should be optional at c0, they are very con locked, sayu and fischl go higher, kaveh is the worst character in the game now
disagree about Beidou and Xiangling... they're both worth building at C0 because of their AOE dmg. And both perfectly workable at C0 as long as they're built with enough ER to burst consistently.
Agree about Sayu though.... she's really slept on. If built 4VV with high ATK, enough ER to burst consistently, and a Fav/Sacrificial, she provides so much utility to the team: res shred, some swirls, er battery, healing. Obviously outclassed by Jean and other anemo users, but still a great option for players who have no other anemo specialists.
full disclosure, I have a C6 Sayu now. But she was good enough to support me through all early to mid game stages ((she was my first C6, so I have a soft spot for her). )
Today she's full EM with R5 Rainslasher, so she's actually a great hyperbloom driver. And still provides enough team healing to support my Furina teams. Don't sleep on Sayu!
@@JoveCana ehhh, beidou is very situational and she only brings dmg and has some energy issues, without cons her dmg just isn’t worth it, and Xianglings uptime is awful without c4 and she’s replaceable in most teams
@@JoveCana sayu can be more consistent and doesn’t have to worry about throwing enemies away like Jean at least but that’s also kinda just preference
@@Nine_Guinea_Pigs sure, Beidou IS a specialist. But she's fantastic at her specialty, so if/when you need to dispatch trash mobs or exactly 2 main foes, she's great. Her so called ER issues is really overblown. She can battery herself, even with mediocre ER stats, as long as you can reliably perfect counter. And that doesn't even consider pairing her with Fischl, one of the best battery units. I still have her at only 132 ER since I prioritized her CR/CD in her build, and I routinely battery her burst every rotation. It's easy and fun when you get the hang of it.... now she wipes out entire trash mobs with a single perfect counter. That's why I think she's such a rewarding unit to play.... the better your skill, the better she is. Definitely worth building if you're willing to put in the time and effort.
In my opinion, at c0 Bennett is optional build or worth building. In my opinion, he needs c1 to be must build
He's perfectly fine at c0, especially with characters that can snapshot like fischl/xiangling
comparing to other c0 he is still must build . c1 is more of a quality of life upgrade .
To be honest. I would have put Charlotte and Kaveh one tier lower, even at C6.
I die hard need kuki.xinobu and Sucrose ❤
I have C3 Chev and she’s just been collecting dust 😭
missing out
Very nice tier list!
you do love dori!!!
How do you know? 😅
Sucrose cope everywhere, there's a reason why almost nobody plays her unless they need to make a video about her. Let's face it: she is strong theoretically but not practically
I think tvere should be se ond choice cstegory
Means if u dont hVe a better replacement the are your best option like bsrbsra for exMple
Mika is definitely constelation locked
Kujou Sara is not mid c0 insane c6. She is barely useful at c0 and only good in hyper teams at c6. Faruzan c6 not only provides a crit damage buff, but resets the anemo resistance shred and generates added energy particles due to c4. In contrast, Kujou Sara's first 4 constellations provide her personal damage, an aspect for which she is outclassed by Fischl every time on equal investment. Another thing I dislike about the list is how low Heizou is. He is still good in taser and aggravate, and though usually worse than Sucrose, still worth considering for newer accounts with few characters. I think it's important to encourage newer players to build reaction based teams, rather than hyper teams, considering that the former needs lower levels of investment into artifact farming.
couldn't agree more. I have randomly compiled C4 Kujou Sara, but I **still** use my C1 Fischl in every team that needs electro off field damage/buff. I've tried Sarah with my C1 Raiden.... almost useless, and super clunky to work with. Fischl is pretty much set and forget, and is a much better battery. Will wait until I get C6 Sarah to fully build her out.
also agree re: Heizou. I used him to drive Beidou taser teams until I got a Sucrose who provided better overall damage even if her personal damage was lower than Heizou's. Haven't tested it, but I think Heizou might actually pull ahead of Sucrose in off field vape teams. Heizou will always be a good enough unit until you get Sucrose or Kazuha, so if that's the only option he's definitely worth building.
I disafreebwith noell she needs lot of energy and is ki da co stelstion locked im sorry
And if sayis mats wherent i azuma locked i would put her above noell anytime
Bruh, this is bad.
Gaming, why is he in optional? The guy gets 36% crit rate FOR FREE! Even without Furina. He's THE BEST 4 star DPS you'll get at C0 next to Fischl or Kuki.
Rosaria, the gal that is less constalation dependent than Xiangling (who is apparently a must without C4 or Raiden but whatever). Teamwide Crit Rate and not as bad energy issues. She's more worth building than Beidou.
You've placed Charlotte abive her?! WHY?! To support Nuevillette?! Girl, come on. You can't be doing that while also putting Sayu at the bottom of the list.
YUN JIN?! That is a COMPLETE SKIP. Nobody uses her optimally.
Lisa and Sethos's should be in the same tier.
Kachina should be in the second highest tier because... Hello, a walking useful artefact set that only she can trigger as of now.
Candace is C6 locked. Ning shouldn't be built by anyone. Those were the major things but it's still not good overall.
Xiangling at C0 is dogsh1t, and Chongyun at C0 is actually good now if you have Xianyun on the account. The "if you really like them" tier makes no sense, because it's the same as "do not bother"
Your tier lists criteria is muddy and I suggest clearing things like account assumptions up in the future
Well, it's a 4 star list, so I didn't assume you have a certain 5 star for Chongyun. Also, XL is still the best off-feld pyro applicator and does good damage.
@@Mr.Mondstadt and it's just as valuable as Chongyun being a good cryo infuser, because at C0 her energy issues are awful, her uptime is just as bad without C4 and her damage is also mid. C0 Xiangling is actively painful.
So is C0 Sucrose.
So is C0 Xingqiu. But he at least can only apply hydro and it'll be enough, he doesn't have THAT many issues as Xianglig and Sucrose do.
That's why I said you should make account assumptions clearer. There's no way an account will have zero 5*. If we assume only 4* exist then it's going to be completely different world.
Are you comparing 4* to each other or are you giving overall recommendations? That's the differance.
The assumption was C0 f2p Account. If you get cons, cool, but if not, who's worth building. Of course they get even better with cons, but it might take time. I have C0 XL to this day and I use her all the time, even used her for 36 staring abyss this time (1st half to break cryo shield)
@@Mr.Mondstadt and I use a C0 Chongyun and he 36 stars.
You see the problem?
If you want to build Chongyun over XL, Sucrose or XQ, that's fine, it's a game. But I don't think that's the best advice for most (new) accounts.
Ok
Another genshin youtuber: eh
Oh they appear to be german!:hmmmm
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