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As a c6r5 clorinde AND raiden enjoyer i can tell you you are absolutely right

Lyney doesn't need as much investment, cause 4 piece MH is efficient to farm and gives free cr. Niche doesn't mean bad, sorry if that was not clear enough. Xiao needs more farming and resin on average, also Cyno imo.

Well, it's a 4 star list, so I didn't assume you have a certain 5 star for Chongyun. Also, XL is still the best off-feld pyro applicator and does good damage.

@@Mr.Mondstadt and it's just as valuable as Chongyun being a good cryo infuser, because at C0 her energy issues are awful, her uptime is just as bad without C4 and her damage is also mid. C0 Xiangling is actively painful. So is C0 Sucrose. So is C0 Xingqiu. But he at least can only apply hydro and it'll be enough, he doesn't have THAT many issues as Xianglig and Sucrose do. That's why I said you should make account assumptions clearer. There's no way an account will have zero 5*. If we assume only 4* exist then it's going to be completely different world. Are you comparing 4* to each other or are you giving overall recommendations? That's the differance.

The assumption was C0 f2p Account. If you get cons, cool, but if not, who's worth building. Of course they get even better with cons, but it might take time. I have C0 XL to this day and I use her all the time, even used her for 36 staring abyss this time (1st half to break cryo shield)

@@Mr.Mondstadt and I use a C0 Chongyun and he 36 stars. You see the problem?

If you want to build Chongyun over XL, Sucrose or XQ, that's fine, it's a game. But I don't think that's the best advice for most (new) accounts.

She is but he hasnt used her so he doesnt know just how much damage she can do in general 😭

I agree with these takes. Arle at c0r0 is good whereas neuv at c0r0 is already cracked. Regarding Mualani - she’s so clunky pairing her with Ayaka in the same tier feels appropriate

arle is one tier less than nuvi.... arle isnt gamechanger just strong unit

@@ghnbtrcv8672 she is game changer! any account that has arle can easily clear everything even with a white tassel....Yes neuv has better aoe but arle hits harder...both are top dps in the game and should be same tier...

@@EthanLemon-w2p How is arle not cracked at c0? Arles best f2p weapon is white tassel that says a lot about how cracked she is. I agree mualani can be a bit clunky but she can easily delete enemies, ayaka is good but not the same as Mualani. Mualani should be a tier above ayaka and others but below arle and neuvillette.

@@ghnbtrcv8672 Arle is game changer for any account...Neuvi has better aoe but arle hits harder..Both should be on the same tier..

I remember you loved my 4 star tier list as well. Glad you came back for this one, the YT algorithm seems to work😄

@@Mr.Mondstadt nah lyney under hu tao is crazy, he is one of the best dps dealers in game rn

Never said Lyney is bad, I just don't like the playstyle and you kinda want a shielder plus Mono pyro, that's all. If someone is niche or needs more investment, that doesn't mean they are worse. So I wouldn't say Hutao is better, depends on what you like to play and what supports you have.

​​@@Mr.Mondstadt REALLY?! 👀 I don't remember that XD Edit: WHAAAAAT THAT VIDEO IS TWO WEEKS OLD?! Damn, what is time 😭

I think you don't have Neuvillette 😂😂😂😂😂

@@Taz-1234 i do i even pulled xilonen for him he went from doing 44k to 60k (also this is on c0 protoamber). But he is still a dps and is not as flexible as yelan. I don't think i single dps should be in ss tier. Neuv might be the closest by far but still not there

@@alexsjarif Neuvillette is not SS tier charectar 🤡🤡🤡🤡Neuvillette is not as flexible as Yelan 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 Are you gay bro 😂😂😂. I even play solo Neuvillette in Spiral abyss. Yelan is not a must pull Charectar. just a replacement for Xingqiu 🤔🤔🤔 Even C6 Xingqiu has more hydro application than Yelan 🤡🤡 🤡

@@Taz-1234 yeah xq is also just a better character than neuv u retard

A list made by new player for new players

Makes sense, tbh. Especially Xiao, he needs a lot of investment in both resin and primos

​@@kwayke9 bro...are yall fr?? Like are we BOTH IN 2024 RN

​@kwayke9 M.H artifact is here in 2024

@@johannbs9549he needs a 5 star weapon, faruzan c6, xianyun c2, furina c1 at least to start getting close to a normal c0 r1 neuvillette team Of course people are gonna say he is expensive 😂

She's definitely broken. I just didn't want to put too many DPS too high, because you don't need that many tbh. I think Arlecchino and Neuvi are the two most versatile ones right now (work for most abyss floors), but I'd rather get Mualani than Arle myself. She's lots of fun. :)

@@Mr.Mondstadt Could you do a 5 Star weapon Tier List Video next?

I will think about it, but I have never pulled on the weapon banners so far, so... we'll see ;)

Eula can also hit over 1 million at c0 🤦‍♀️

@@LauraJinkins-pi8sv yes Eula can Hit 1 Million but only once if she crits and with Food 😂 Mualani has 100 Cr with no Food buffs and her First 3 normal Sharky attacks do each 1 Million and her Burst also 1 Million. So in One Rotation Mualani does 4 Million damage 🤦🏻‍♂️😳

In the end, just pull who you like and who makes your gaming experience more fun. That's what it's all about. 😊

Furina+Yelan is definetly better than Xingqiu and u can forget about him having the other double hydro option (big buffs and hydro resonance, which Xingqiu doesn’t provide, plus with furina you’ll have a healer in the team already). That’s why T2 is deserved for her.

I agree with you in terms of design. I would have pulled for Arlechinno but she seems so meh to me, kinda too formal and I found her not attractive at all, so I didn't pull for her even knowing she's one of the strongest DPS in the game.

100% agree, can't wait for yours. 👍

How do you know? 😅

You will only buff Geo and one other element (whatever you cristallize) and I agree, the set is broken, but Kachina is not. I think in 1-2 months, once enough Natlan characters are out, Kachina will probably be benched by most players. So I would just level her so she doesn't die immediately, but other than that, don't invest in her. The set works on level 20 characters as well ;)

Yeah but her comparison here is not with future natlan characters, it's with the current set of 4 stars right? We don't know about the future but right now she is the best geo buffer and the best support for mualani. In fact she's also the best 4 star support for mono hydro teams. That is top tier. Among the released 4 stars, she is on the same level as chevruse

I understand what you mean, but Chevreuse works without a specific artifact set. It's her that has the buffs in her talents. Kachina does not, she is bound to Cinder City and that is the main reason why she is used at all. This tier list is about building, I'm not saying don't use Kachina. But it's probably not worth your resin to max out her talents, weapon etc.

It depends on what teams you play most. Personally, I would go for another character over a constellation, but Nahida's cons are very good and if you saved for that, maybe stick to it. I would not pull for Xilonen on the day of her release, everyone will be super hyped. Wait a week or ten days and then see, who you want more. Hope this helped a bit. :)

@@Mr.Mondstadt thank uuuu smmm this rlly did help i may just wait for xilonens rerun!!

she has huge synergy with kinich. you just run her kinich and two pyros like toma/bennet, which you should be doing with kinich anyways.then your getting resistance shred and healing from her and a 50% bonus to your pyro damage.

@@boom1612 she wont res shred dendro. I think even vv dont res shred dendro. As far as i know, only zhongli res shreds dendro 20%. Maybe its bcoz devs initially thought dendro is just reaction heavy element, so only release characters that scale on em, but with kinich, it is completely a new take. Wish xilonen res shred dendro, but it is what it is

You could skip Nahida even, as meta is shifting. Furina is kinda must pull. Zhong Lee depends on your team set up, but C0 is just super useful Xilonen is nice alternative to Kazuha. It is nice to have at least on of them

As long if they not a cryo characters

Well, good luck with your pulls😅🤞

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