@@patrickmcguire7896 yeah it's refreshing to see him depicted as a layered dude and isn't him dying for Bruce so that a robot can shut down and then they throw Jason in the Lazarus pit a second time because he died before... I'm sorry but if I woke up in a coffin after being punched back into life, wandered the streets for a few months or years, got pushed into the Lazarus Pit to have my memories revived and then deal with that PTSD I would not want to be killed again just to be thrown back in the Lazarus Pit!
@@OwlQueen375 Yeah modern comics suck! Especially Batman comics. I hated everything about Gotham War! It was a complete waste of time a character assassination for everyone!
My favorite character arc is always Jason’s. He started out as a troubled kid, was killed, brought back, fought his family on multiple occasions, joined them, came to terms with his past, and grew from it
Respecting Jason for walking away to clear his head Because he is actually being smart not wanting to hurt himself and others because Jason knows how joker gets in your head
Honestly I think Jason is being pretty reasonable, taking himself out of the equation as to not hurt anyone with his actions since he isn’t in a proper headspace, and it’s great he has such an amazing supporting family
Me the first time I read this episode: if that’s the Joker at the end and he somehow found Jason, I’m going to cry and scream at the same time and then I’m going to throw my phone against the wall. I’m so proud of Jason having a therapist. Most of them needs a therapist.
@@horsegirl19951 God, the secrets that person must be holding… I figured it wasn’t Joker then, after all… his eyes would have looked at lot different. He would have had a different look of recognition.
I can’t quite imagine Jason having a therapist. I mean, if he counts his family as one, I get that. But, not a real therapist. I feel like that’s one way to reveal their identities. Dick and Barbara are great siblings. They know when their little brother needs space.
The voice acting in this is superb, Jason’s struggle to maintain his composure is clearly conveyed even without the visual, I cannot wait for the next episode!
"every person the joker hurts because you're distracting me is on you" hahahahaha that's the biggest load of hypocrisy coming from the man who won't put a bullet in the head of his play mate.
@@nathanmilsom9952 well think about it joker killed Jason crippled Barbra and has hurt duke, don't get me wrong I agree with the bullet in the head but I can understand batman not wanting anyone else hurt or killed again
@@redangel2278 I know all of that, that point I'm making is at some point with a person like joker, you either let the police kill him or do it yourself.
Low yes but sadly not un true. Remember Joker only killed Jason to mess with Batman. And with Barbara even though he didn’t know she was Batgirl he crippled her to break Commissioner Gordon all once again to mess with Batman. I agree he’s being a jerk but I get where he’s coming from, if Joker does anything to the kids Batman will bare the blame
Is it? He asked them several times to leave him and the investigation alone and they wouldn’t listen, it was the only way to get him to understand. And while I’m sure the message will be “family and friendship” realistically Batman isn’t in a headspace where a team would be beneficial to him right now it seems like.
@@adrianarballo179he tried multiple times explaining why he had a problem with it and they kept ignoring him or going around him. In his mind “it’s better I hurt them than Joker” And if the goal is to keep them safe, it may be a low blow but given how persistent they are it was necessaru
@@JakeTylenol you're ignoring the fact that they're all heroes who have dealt with things that are worse than joker and the fact but most of them were brought up from incredible harsh background . They all knew what they signed up for when they decided to do this. And another thing his PTSD, fear and past experiences with joker don't give him an excuse to do or say any of that.
I've only seen the youtube episodes, but what would be interesting if Joker somehow got Jason once again (I would be screaming and crying probs if that *did* happen)
Due to all the comparisons, I've been wondering what Punisher would be like mentoring sidekicks. I got an answer, but I'd like more. Oh ! And it is possible btw. There's a kid super-hero team called Power Pack in the Warp World version with a very Punisher mindset on crime, with the difference being, unlike Frank, they don't see other ways.
The death of the Waynes is such a pivotal point, the slightest change to the moment causes the most diverse consequences. The slightest change to the Joker's M.O seems to do the same. So, of what we saw so far, are we sure this isn't a negative universe ?
Having to deal with a traumatic event is not a joke. It follows you everywhere and one little thing can trigger it like hell.I have PTSD and I can feel jason. It's like hell. It will make you feel like a failure. I hope that every person who is suffering from PTSD will be able to get better one day.Btw post the next chapter soon or remember BABY SHARK
Jesus H Christ the voice actor for Batman 100% did a great job at displaying how mean and harsh it was to say that to his son. "It's on you!" You d- That's your son's name out of respect for him I won't say that. Batman, you Moth!
Joker really did a number on Jason. And now Bruce is being closed off more than ever, welp this is gonna be hairy..and who could be our mysterious lady guest that was in Jason's safehouse?
Jason: I don't trust myself around you guys and I refuse to be the reason you guys get hurt. And that is why Jason Todd will always be my favorite character. I like that while he's mad at Bruce it's not like... the time he went postal on him. 😂 To be honest, him showing fear of hurting others is a great way to show the difference with how Joker is always "lol I'm random. Let the city burn." Both in my eyes are mentally damaged, but while Joker takes his Insanity to hurt others, Jason even with PTSD (and I'm assuming mood swings. Evem in his rival comic he was pushed into the pit after being brought back to life in his grave) is bettering himself. I headcanon as brash and cuss a lot, but I always think that he was a whole teenager when he died and he spent a few years stuck with the Ghul's which is just... Not any better. He has come so far to be this guy and I like this guy. He's neat. The original writers (the ones who first had Jason be revived to life) could've made Jason a villain but making him this... I love it. To he honest, if Nightwing is what Batman said was a better version of himself, I think Jason Todd is who I see Bruce Wayne wanted to be. Damaged, but... Not afraid to say he's sad, needs help and doesn't want to hurt anyone. I just rambled about this on a fanfic comic dub. Lol sorry guys.
@@TheLuckyDerp ...well now I feel like a dumb dumb 😂 I had no idea it was DC official. You pinned my comic though so I'm glad you liked what I wrote. Honestly you guys do an amazing job portraying these characters. You all give them a voice I match with the character. From Grayson's slight nasal voice. To your Tim Drake gruff teen boy. Jason's sultry tough guy voice. Damian sounding like a cute precious child ❤️ To whoever the freak you got to do Batman's deep smooth voice. All of you give these characters the voice deserve along with good improv and ad libbing. I hope to get into voice acting someday and see your videos just... Makes me appreciate voice acting ever more. 100/100
@@OwlQueen375 Thanks for the compliments on all our voices we do try our best to make these characters our own. Glad you enjoy our stuff i do appreciate it
…okay, someone should really just kill The Joker at this point. At least storywise! He’s a great villain! But, The Bat Family obviously can’t do it. It’s their one rule. Jason stretches out the no killing rule due to him using lethal force, but he’s too traumatized to do it. Can’t be any of The Justice League cause Injustice is proof of what happens with that- But literally *anyone else* just kill the maniac. Hell, I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten the death sentence. With the amount of destruction he’s caused, the insanity plea would probably only do so much. Hell, pretty sure Gotham would celebrate whoever just shoots him and said killer would get off scott-free cause it’s The Joker. That’s how horrible he is-
Batman riggs Gotham Justice System, in some continuities, it was confirmed that Bruce rigged Joker Sentence, so he would be isolated on Arkham, instead of Death Sentence, since Bats believe he can be redemmed(With its the hole Batman and Joker conflict, Joker wanting for Batman to break his rule, soo to Batman, Joker wins if he kills him).
@@demi-fiendoftime3825 I not sure, considering Arkham Shadow its a Meta Quest 3 exclusive, they are still suporting SSKJL and refused to make a Batman Beyond Movie
This is why I think Batman is a genuine asshole. Look your PTSD or past experiences are no excuse to act that way especially towards people who care about you and who you care about. For all the good he tries this is who at times Batman forces himself to be just a scared PTSD driven person who will end up being alone. And honestly, no matter what anyone says or try to convince me, Batman really is just a bad person and a genuine asshole.
@@aashishmisra9683 dude he genuinely is an asshole and a horrible person not just his own family but with his teammates and supposed friends in the Justice League. I mean just look at all the messed up stuff he does lie, mislead, withhold information, contingency plans you have to admit regardless of how good he can be at times none of it excuses all of his other past horrible choices and actions. And to top it all off he thinks it's necessary I admit but I can see he has a "better safe than sorry" mindset but what is an okay is to keep all that to yourself and not say anything cuz that is essentially backstabbing.
He is just really bad at handling Jason. Even in comics he can be uncaring for him at times. Remember the time he tried to force Jason relive the trauma of his death just so Bruce could figure out a way to resurrect Damian.
Dick commenting on his gorgeousness is always amusing. And I’m giving Jason a massive hug.
@@pandoraavatar9901 if I had to describe dick (at least this iteration of him) it would be vain.
I feel like this webtoon is the only place that shows Jason dealing with his issues and not being a rage monster
@@patrickmcguire7896 not interlay true, urban legends did
@@redrasegarden still a painfully under explored subject
@@darthrevan4933 I suppose you’re right.
@@patrickmcguire7896 yeah it's refreshing to see him depicted as a layered dude and isn't him dying for Bruce so that a robot can shut down and then they throw Jason in the Lazarus pit a second time because he died before... I'm sorry but if I woke up in a coffin after being punched back into life, wandered the streets for a few months or years, got pushed into the Lazarus Pit to have my memories revived and then deal with that PTSD I would not want to be killed again just to be thrown back in the Lazarus Pit!
@@OwlQueen375 Yeah modern comics suck! Especially Batman comics. I hated everything about Gotham War! It was a complete waste of time a character assassination for everyone!
PTSD is no Joke from The Joker. Are we just going to ignore that Stephanie Brown tried to drug Batman with Coffee.
@@alwaysmidnight wait Stephanie tried to drug Bruce with coffee?
Yes. It had laxatives.@@adrianarballo179
I mean it is laxatives, not roofies. So just make him have to use the batoitlet.
Honestly one of the safest ways to get bats out of the way for a bit
@@alwaysmidnight considering she just wanted to give him the shits. Not as big a deal as you think.
My favorite character arc is always Jason’s. He started out as a troubled kid, was killed, brought back, fought his family on multiple occasions, joined them, came to terms with his past, and grew from it
Respecting Jason for walking away to clear his head
Because he is actually being smart not wanting to hurt himself and others because Jason knows how joker gets in your head
@@redangel2278 yeah it's better to get away from the trauma for a bit before it starts to take over and cause you to do all sorts of horrible things.
Batman should take a page out of Jason’s book, he’s not okay
@@phantasmicmasque yeah. I mean it's pretty obvious at this point.
Honestly I think Jason is being pretty reasonable, taking himself out of the equation as to not hurt anyone with his actions since he isn’t in a proper headspace, and it’s great he has such an amazing supporting family
Ok. That dose it. I’m hugging this mam
And I'm hugging both of you (group hug)
@@lastguardianofthedyinglight fair warning, bizarro might want in on this.
Dick Grayson Wayne is the best big brother and Jason Todd Wayne is a precious baby
I like that Steph called Batman out.
She does have a history of handing Batman his ass.
Me the first time I read this episode: if that’s the Joker at the end and he somehow found Jason, I’m going to cry and scream at the same time and then I’m going to throw my phone against the wall.
I’m so proud of Jason having a therapist. Most of them needs a therapist.
@@horsegirl19951 God, the secrets that person must be holding…
I figured it wasn’t Joker then, after all… his eyes would have looked at lot different. He would have had a different look of recognition.
@rebekahwolkiewicz449 if I had to guess, I'd say that, considering it was a woman's voice, that it was Artemis from the Outlaws in the cabin
@@jefferyoneill1 and who knows Batboys better than Wonder Girls right?
I can’t quite imagine Jason having a therapist. I mean, if he counts his family as one, I get that. But, not a real therapist. I feel like that’s one way to reveal their identities. Dick and Barbara are great siblings. They know when their little brother needs space.
I honestly don't know how you guys manage to produce so many episodes so quickly and still so well done, seriously the quality is great. 😊
@@CecíliaMarinho-c5i I edit them in bulk
The voice acting in this is superb, Jason’s struggle to maintain his composure is clearly conveyed even without the visual, I cannot wait for the next episode!
"every person the joker hurts because you're distracting me is on you" hahahahaha that's the biggest load of hypocrisy coming from the man who won't put a bullet in the head of his play mate.
@@nathanmilsom9952 well think about it joker killed Jason crippled Barbra and has hurt duke, don't get me wrong I agree with the bullet in the head but I can understand batman not wanting anyone else hurt or killed again
@@redangel2278 I know all of that, that point I'm making is at some point with a person like joker, you either let the police kill him or do it yourself.
@@nathanmilsom9952 who would you like to kill the joker because Harley and Jason are kinda tied with all the shit he done to the both of them
Why dose everyone want Batman to kill joker? Or kill in general?
Ya wanna blame anyone, blame the legal system.
@@redrasegarden the same legal system that can't get a shot at him because batman won't allow it?
OK, Bats saying his kids were being a burden & that Joker's victims was beyond low
Low yes but sadly not un true. Remember Joker only killed Jason to mess with Batman. And with Barbara even though he didn’t know she was Batgirl he crippled her to break Commissioner Gordon all once again to mess with Batman. I agree he’s being a jerk but I get where he’s coming from, if Joker does anything to the kids Batman will bare the blame
@@patrickmcguire7896 dude even if that is the case. It still doesn't give him the right to say that. Especially towards his own family
Is it?
He asked them several times to leave him and the investigation alone and they wouldn’t listen, it was the only way to get him to understand.
And while I’m sure the message will be “family and friendship” realistically Batman isn’t in a headspace where a team would be beneficial to him right now it seems like.
@@adrianarballo179he tried multiple times explaining why he had a problem with it and they kept ignoring him or going around him. In his mind “it’s better I hurt them than Joker”
And if the goal is to keep them safe, it may be a low blow but given how persistent they are it was necessaru
@@JakeTylenol you're ignoring the fact that they're all heroes who have dealt with things that are worse than joker and the fact but most of them were brought up from incredible harsh background . They all knew what they signed up for when they decided to do this. And another thing his PTSD, fear and past experiences with joker don't give him an excuse to do or say any of that.
not to mention that this season is also very good
Damn this Gotham Knights DLC's getting crazy, you can really feel the emotion packed into these scenes
wow, stephani brown is my favorite menber of the bat family she is cool .
I've only seen the youtube episodes, but what would be interesting if Joker somehow got Jason once again
(I would be screaming and crying probs if that *did* happen)
Sigh I just wanna give Jason a big hug. The poor guy deserves it, and so much more :(
Joker 🃏 games begun
The way Stephine said that!!!😂😂 They immeadiately know!!!!😂😂😂
This webtoon has one of the best characterizations for Jason that I've ever seen. As always, the VAs here are killing it!
That "Hey Jason" is terrifying.
I’ve never read the comics, who is it????
@@phantasmicmasque
Spoiler
It’s Artemis
Dick called her and Bizarro
@@phantasmicmasqueit’s ok, it’s just Artemis and bizarro
Honestly, I’m a little concerned with Jason being away. Joker clearly wants to divide them
Poor jason :( again my fav robin and anti hero and to learn he goes through this. I just want to tell him it's gonna be ok
He looks so tiny in that bed 🥹🥹
Protect him
@@redrasegarden*With my life*
@@rebekahwolkiewicz449 all the lives
Due to all the comparisons, I've been wondering what Punisher would be like mentoring sidekicks. I got an answer, but I'd like more.
Oh ! And it is possible btw. There's a kid super-hero team called Power Pack in the Warp World version with a very Punisher mindset on crime, with the difference being, unlike Frank, they don't see other ways.
It's surprising how the Webcomics handle Jason's character better than the mainstream ones.
The death of the Waynes is such a pivotal point, the slightest change to the moment causes the most diverse consequences. The slightest change to the Joker's M.O seems to do the same.
So, of what we saw so far, are we sure this isn't a negative universe ?
Having to deal with a traumatic event is not a joke. It follows you everywhere and one little thing can trigger it like hell.I have PTSD and I can feel jason. It's like hell. It will make you feel like a failure. I hope that every person who is suffering from PTSD will be able to get better one day.Btw post the next chapter soon or remember BABY SHARK
Gotham needs martial law
I love the live stream you should do another one with Damien Tim and Jason?
Jesus H Christ the voice actor for Batman 100% did a great job at displaying how mean and harsh it was to say that to his son. "It's on you!" You d- That's your son's name out of respect for him I won't say that. Batman, you Moth!
Joker really did a number on Jason. And now Bruce is being closed off more than ever, welp this is gonna be hairy..and who could be our mysterious lady guest that was in Jason's safehouse?
At the end, whoever said, "Hey, Jason", I hope it's was Rose
in the end creddits find the character you haven't seen
it's Artemis
@@daniel_.- you mean is alfred....? 😱😱
If it were Alfred, it would have said Alfred's name next to Jason Todd's since they are the same voice actor
That was low Bats.
Steph just tried to drug Batman
Do laxatives count as “drugging”?
Nah
Jason: I don't trust myself around you guys and I refuse to be the reason you guys get hurt.
And that is why Jason Todd will always be my favorite character. I like that while he's mad at Bruce it's not like... the time he went postal on him. 😂 To be honest, him showing fear of hurting others is a great way to show the difference with how Joker is always "lol I'm random. Let the city burn." Both in my eyes are mentally damaged, but while Joker takes his Insanity to hurt others, Jason even with PTSD (and I'm assuming mood swings. Evem in his rival comic he was pushed into the pit after being brought back to life in his grave) is bettering himself. I headcanon as brash and cuss a lot, but I always think that he was a whole teenager when he died and he spent a few years stuck with the Ghul's which is just... Not any better. He has come so far to be this guy and I like this guy. He's neat.
The original writers (the ones who first had Jason be revived to life) could've made Jason a villain but making him this... I love it. To he honest, if Nightwing is what Batman said was a better version of himself, I think Jason Todd is who I see Bruce Wayne wanted to be. Damaged, but... Not afraid to say he's sad, needs help and doesn't want to hurt anyone. I just rambled about this on a fanfic comic dub. Lol sorry guys.
It's not a fan fic. This comic is an official DC comic
@@TheLuckyDerp ...well now I feel like a dumb dumb 😂 I had no idea it was DC official. You pinned my comic though so I'm glad you liked what I wrote. Honestly you guys do an amazing job portraying these characters. You all give them a voice I match with the character.
From Grayson's slight nasal voice.
To your Tim Drake gruff teen boy.
Jason's sultry tough guy voice.
Damian sounding like a cute precious child ❤️
To whoever the freak you got to do Batman's deep smooth voice. All of you give these characters the voice deserve along with good improv and ad libbing. I hope to get into voice acting someday and see your videos just... Makes me appreciate voice acting ever more.
100/100
@@OwlQueen375 Thanks for the compliments on all our voices we do try our best to make these characters our own.
Glad you enjoy our stuff i do appreciate it
Ooh Jason who's the lady 😏
Artemis.
Por que creo que esta en la cabaña con jason es talia o rosi la hija de sleyder
Love it ❤️🔥❤️🔥
You know, come to think of it, I realized we're missing one Bat family member:
Carrie Kelley
She is from a future Batman story. When Bruce is old. Why would she show up here?
@@TheLuckyDerp Uhh... I dunno maybe it's because I found out about her in the new Batman Prime series and I didn't even know of this fact.
@@neihljohnpansit313it’s ok, I want her in mainstream canon too. I think they tried to in the new 52 but that went no where
…okay, someone should really just kill The Joker at this point. At least storywise! He’s a great villain!
But, The Bat Family obviously can’t do it. It’s their one rule. Jason stretches out the no killing rule due to him using lethal force, but he’s too traumatized to do it.
Can’t be any of The Justice League cause Injustice is proof of what happens with that-
But literally *anyone else* just kill the maniac. Hell, I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten the death sentence. With the amount of destruction he’s caused, the insanity plea would probably only do so much. Hell, pretty sure Gotham would celebrate whoever just shoots him and said killer would get off scott-free cause it’s The Joker. That’s how horrible he is-
@@ZeEmperor Gotham's justice system is broken
Batman riggs Gotham Justice System, in some continuities, it was confirmed that Bruce rigged Joker Sentence, so he would be isolated on Arkham, instead of Death Sentence, since Bats believe he can be redemmed(With its the hole Batman and Joker conflict, Joker wanting for Batman to break his rule, soo to Batman, Joker wins if he kills him).
WB&DC: Hello we like money
@@demi-fiendoftime3825 I not sure, considering Arkham Shadow its a Meta Quest 3 exclusive, they are still suporting SSKJL and refused to make a Batman Beyond Movie
I swear Dick and Babs are literally an old married couple
I believe they are married in this universe
They are not
@@TheLuckyDerp I saw it in wiki fandom...
@@TheLuckyDerp ok wiki fandom got confused the universes of red hood outlaws and Wayne family adventures
@@abhinavkishoreprasad Yeah I got confused if they were suppose to be in the same universe ngl
Who's that waiting for him?
Can't remeber the name right now, but guess the girl from his team.
@@AugustoEL Artemis?
@@g.i.azilla3557yup, and bizzaro.
This is why I think Batman is a genuine asshole. Look your PTSD or past experiences are no excuse to act that way especially towards people who care about you and who you care about. For all the good he tries this is who at times Batman forces himself to be just a scared PTSD driven person who will end up being alone. And honestly, no matter what anyone says or try to convince me, Batman really is just a bad person and a genuine asshole.
Well it depends on the writing but i can see why you'd think that... He certainly isn't the best dad either
@@aashishmisra9683 dude he genuinely is an asshole and a horrible person not just his own family but with his teammates and supposed friends in the Justice League. I mean just look at all the messed up stuff he does lie, mislead, withhold information, contingency plans you have to admit regardless of how good he can be at times none of it excuses all of his other past horrible choices and actions. And to top it all off he thinks it's necessary I admit but I can see he has a "better safe than sorry" mindset but what is an okay is to keep all that to yourself and not say anything cuz that is essentially backstabbing.
Then why the hell are you reading this?!
@@patrickmcguire7896 I like WFA ok it's different than the normal Batman bs. Even if some of his normal Bs is in WFA right now.
He is just really bad at handling Jason.
Even in comics he can be uncaring for him at times. Remember the time he tried to force Jason relive the trauma of his death just so Bruce could figure out a way to resurrect Damian.
i feel bad for jason but leavign gotham was the right call
I NEED TO KNOW MORE
Okay honestly what Batman says was pretty low I mean I know he's trying to protect them but there's no reason to go that far even if it's the truth
Where did Jason go ? Who talked to him ?
That's what I want to know
@@g.i.azilla3557anyone in the comics who he's fond of and is female ?
@@IwakuraYumeko7 Artemis. It's one of his teammates.
Who’s the woman at the end…sounds familiar
500th like!