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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- Repaso a la evolución de los principales entornos gráficos de usuario desde el año 1981 hasta hoy 2009. Aunque se ha perfeccionado la resolución, añadido gadgets para clasificar y acceder más rápidamente a la información, la experiencia de usuario ha evolucionado muy poco en 25 años.
GUIs: Xerox Star, Apple Lisa, VisiCorp Visi On, Mac OS System 1.0, Amiga Workbench 1.0, Windows 1.0x, IRIX 3, GEOS, Windows 2.0x, OS/2 1.x, NeXTSTEP / OPENSTEP 1.0, OS/2 1.20, Windows 3.0, Amiga Workbench 2.04, Mac OS System 7, Windows 3.1, OS/2 2.0, Windows 95, OS/2 Warp 4, Mac OS System 8, Windows 98, KDE 1.0, BeOs 4.5, GNOME 1.0, KDE 2.0, Mac OS X, Windows XP, KDE 3.0, Windows Vista, GNOME 2.24, KDE 4.0, Windows 7
"nothing ever changes" excellent song choice
a lot of user interfaces are missing there, really a lot but nice video :)
1:03 The best!
Music is Placebo - English Summer Rain (Sussie 4 Mix)
@TheWilliamMaster Those versions of windows did not change the GUI much. This video is about GUI evolution.
The Mac OS has evolved a lot since the screen shot that you have representing it.
@Hagbard64 I loved my Amiga, but this is a UI video. The UI didn't change much from 2.0 to 3.1. Mods did make it much prettier, but it didn't come that way. Any release past 3.1 hasn't made much impact in the computing world. I am glad to see it included at all.
@Firestorm2900: Because this is a video about the evolution of the graphical user interface, which, as you say, didn't change significantly with Windows NT or 2000.
Windows 95 was the first OS I had in my first PC desktop computer in 1998.
Spent 4 years with it.
Interms of Aesthetics and visual design, NeXT OS was way ahead of it's time.
It might have been nice to include the Commodore 64 GUI (pre-Amiga) and the Apple II.x GUI's like the Apple IIc, etc... Very nice video though.
The first system I have worked with was Windows 3.1 in 1994. I can't believe all this years passed and the technology has been changed that much in this few years. It is like it was just yesterday.
you won't believe how much it has changed in the last 10 years
@gibs2b I already said where you can find it. Google Xerox Star. The toolbar has normal actions but drop-down menus as well. All in same bar.
The difference is that Apple invented the shortcuts (LISA team) for menu entries but in Xerox Star they were physical buttons in the keyboard on left/right side. Star developers just wanted to limit the drop-down menus amount because they were bad. But there were few and as I said, earlier CLI programs had them as well. Apple just made one universal bar.
Windows XP looked like you stepped into the future just because of the background and all of the color.
I'm missing a lot of the Unix GUI's Motif, OpenLook, Athena Widgets ... also missing GeOS on C64 and PC.
@sentidocomunve... yes...microsoft internet explorer is used by mac ox since 1997 (When steve jobs return to apple)... before changing their default browser to safari...
windows 3.x and Windows 95 was the basis of windows we know today. it hasn't changed in 15 years...and counting
I came here from Quora and this is probably the newest comment you'll find here. To anyone reading this after 22/1/2021, you are not the only madlad watching this ancient video. Cheers!
@TheFri13 So...you can't find a video or a screenshot of Star with the menubar on the whole internet...right ? or something where I can read that the menubar was on Star ? So it's from Bill Atkinson! I invit you to type "Bill Atkinson menu bar on google" (I had probably used kde 1.x before you, I had to compil it myself a lot of time as it wasn't even packaged)
I'm surprised that Windows NT or 2000 didn't make it in. For Windows while it did look the same, it was significant for Window's evolution from becoming reliant on DOS like Windows 9x and 3.x was.
@TheFri13 ...and everyday you are using the "menubar" from Bill Atkinson (Apple)
@hectorae86 Nextstep was even created on a machine (the Nextcube) with almost identical hardware to that of the Amiga (Motorola 68000 processor)
yes Internet Explorer 5.1.x was a Beta product and shipped with Mac OS X 10.0 versions, Safari was not released until beta about the time of Mac OS X 10.2.8 It was not final until after Mac OS X 10.3 shipped. Between Mac OS X 10.1 and 10.3.9 there was a lot of browser competition on the platform. People used Camino, Firefox, Netscape, Mozilla (now Seamonkey), iCab, and OmniWeb (which comes from the NeXTSTEP platform)
@TheFri13 go on the toastytech website, they show a LOT of screenshot of the Star, not one with a "menu bar".
ok can we see this banking application from 1979 ?
Why there is a gap of 5 years between 2002-2007. There should be a reference in Compiz and Aero.
I guess they are pretty impressive and it would be interesting to be included in the comparison.
There are few poits what have moved the whole computer world ahead.
1. Xerox star. It is still almost better than anything what has got done after that.
2. GEM. It was ahead of it time. It could have win easily Mac OS or Windows but the corporation did not take a risk to spend money for it marketing and it died slowly and alone. Even it was very innovative in many ways.
3. NeXTStep. It brought lots of ideas to current GUI's.
4. OS/2
5. KDE 1.0
@JoshFilm1 i think the reason why he didnt put it in there is because those versions of windows me, windows 2000, and windows NT never existed in his country
@CajunGypsy : Ubuntu can use Gnome or KDE, these were in this video.
@gibs2b KDE was very important in the ideas and functions and you would understand that if you would have used Win95, System 7/8, Amiga, C64, AtariST, KDE, GNOME etc.
Star was very innovative, they had lots of functions what we do not have even today because they were thrown away because eye-candy. Star presented GUI, mouse, menus, icons, windowses. All is very well explained how they designed the GUI for normal users to handle files so the menu shows always all functions and nothing is hided.
@mydimle Aero came with Windows Vista (OS was NT v.6.0) and it is shown there. Compiz came 2003 but it did not belong to any desktop environment and you could not use it alone as window manager (even Compiz is such) like OpenBox. The Compiz-Fusion does not belong to GNOME, KDE SC or any other and it does not bring any UI itself.
Where is the Desk Mate GUI? Tandy (Radio Shack) was a great, simple GUI!
@sentidocomunve Internet Explorer was the default browser for macintoshes at that time.
Mac OS X was a big step in the evolution...
@sentidocomunve IE was the standard browser on OS X at the time..
Even back in 1998 KDE looked years ahead of its time
@vanhalenbr It was probably the first time GUI was more practical than text interface.
@sentidocomunve well yeah, microsoft and apple shared a lot of software in those days.
May I remind you that microsoft office was first packaged for Mac OS
@TheFri13 I have used and I still own all those computers (Macintosh 68k, Atari 520ST, Amiga, C64c) with their OS...
And I'm agree that Star was innovative but...
You don't answer the question which is : "Where is the menu bar on Star" ? because if Bill Aktinston hasn't invented the menu bar we should correct it.
@BorkGonsam you have to keep in mind windows 7 was a beta back then
or who knows it may be a phony picture
Pero es el mismo, solo ha tenido "cambios menores" mejoras en la calidad y adicion de herramientas, pero sigue siendo el mismo GUI
0:58 best!
@gibs2b My mistake the first screenshot, because when I scrolled back, first one after the video start was the Star screenshot. But it still has WIMP UI. (If you even know what WIMP is). And you demanded a screenshot or video what I said I can not profide because I do not have hardware to open disk. And even if I would have, the program would not work. And now you are trying to ask that I should send a photo having a 8" floppy in it box? Dont be so naive.
@sentidocomunve internet explorer was the default browser on macs until 2003, when safari entered the computer world
@joekiser That's just because you didn't see enough of Amiga OS, nextstep is a nothing more then a direct clone of Amiga OS.
@qwrasw and yet still nobody used it. I remember the first thing the tech would do at the school library after reinstalling mac os 10.2 on the G3 computers was remove internet explorer from the dock on all the computers.
@RColwillMusic 2003? Windows xp is 2001! Windows server is 2003.
I understand X-based desktop enviornments are in there, but why did you skip over X's desktop implementation with twm all together?
@JoshFilm1
Win Me = Pretty much exactly the same as Win 95 but with updated graphics
Win NT = Same as Win 95 but with better network functionality
Win 2000 = Probably should have been included but was quickly replaced by Win XP anyways
RIP BeOS. :( Too bad. Had a real pretty interface going there.
Yeah and also TWM (the historical gui from X1)
@BranislavDJ Try dosbox. It is an DOS-on-x86 emulator that runs most old dos games. It is free and available on all major platforms inculding all recent and not so recent Windows versions.
i just love it, how most of the UI's copied apple's UI, (in the begin of the video)
1:14
how is that windows 7?
MrMinecraftStudio001 Look the Start Button and the Start Menu.. it is clearly Windows 7
wow next was a huge step
No KDE 4.x and Gnome 3.x
I think this video is new enough to have seen KDE 4.x we are already on 4.7 and Gnome 3.x still not out but I think is new enough to show stuff like Compiz.
next everything reverts to tiled layouts & ZUI-switching for touchscreens with 3d hardware
slides go by to fast to read caption and look at picture.
@gibs2b There are thousands of screenshots (polaroids really) showing a menus. Oh.compiled yourself.right....like I did when I followed it development and participated with ideas. So thats why KDE looks like Win95? Should I be impressed that you compiled from source yourself?
Google xerox-star-8010-05 . jpg. And as I said already, Xeros wanted to limit the drop-down menus amount and keep menus simple where all entries was visible, but they still used menus. Star was all about WIMP.
@sentidocomunve yes, and safari is a better version of that... do u know weel the apple story?
@gibs2b Bill Atkinson did not invent the menubar. Apple copied even that from Xerox what used such in first GUI. But not even not that is first one, the CLI UI's have had menubars since early 70's. They were drop-down lists in text-editors and similars. The functionality stayed same, the outlook just changed and placement. Like in CLI programs it was top, on Xerox it was placed to top in window decoration, in first Mac systems it was placed top of the desktop.
@thork420gonsam What do you work at microsoft? i know its a little late *cough*1 year*
but that looks like a copy of longhorn i have.
You forgot NT 2000.
And then there was Me, the buggy 9x.
@sentidocomunve Yeah, before i think osx, apple didn't have safari and so microsoft made a browser for it.
@sentidocomunve inernet explorer want just locked to windows, then you could get it for mac as it was one of the few internet browsers
Where is the Aqua GUI ?
@TheFri13 Gnome or others Window Manager like Window Maker...
@TheFri13 ah yes ? show me a Xerox OS with a menu bar please...
Thank god he didnt put GNOME 3 in here!
@hectorae86: I had both back in the day. They are almost nothing alike on the technology lever or on the user experience level. I won't comment as to which one is better or worse but I can assure you that NEXTSTEP stole nothing from the Amiga.
@elsaeraser
Well thank you.
:3
But still I might buy old PC,so I can use it as my Web Site server.
:P
amigaOS was the only with multitasking and first with full colour capabilities...
NextStep is best!
@gibs2b And you must be totally mistaking that drop-down and pop-up menus are subsets of the menus itself. The Star was first what shown the WIMP interface. LISA was first commercic success to bring WIMP to world with own small changes (like the universal menubar what was not tied to applications like earlier. Argument was that it was few times faster than menu what was tied to window itself. I have a old bankin application floppy from 1979 whats program has drop-down menus as many programs had.
@eivis13 -_- Didn't you notice the KDE or GNOME? Or you just don't know anything about Linux-distributions.
there's only 1... but with many updates...
BeOS forever!
whats that on the windows 7 screen shoot??? whats the name of this "style" or what ever this is?? or is this just a big fake??
@gibs2b You must be totally blind that you can not see menubar in Star. It is even in this video first screenshot shown. And no, you can not see that because I do not have anymore 8" floppydrive what to use. And I must say I do not even believe it would work with DR-DOS or FreeDOS as it did with CP/M. I do not even know does that floppy even work is it demagnetised totally. Last time it was used was -81 when the bank was joined to other bank.
What's the song?
@TheWilliamMaster
I run my XP.
But I might buy old Pentium 3 so I can run old DOS games on it.
:p
Sadly,I will also, have to install Win 7,since many new games need DirectX 10 which is not supported by XP.
:(
you forgot amigaOS3.1, 3.5, 3.9, 4.0 and 4.1
@vanhalenbr Windows 95 is definitely the biggest step.
This doesn't give Alto enough credit.
Minesweeper hasn't changed at all
Gnome3???
does anyone notice how much of a step backwards windows 1.0 was? and how similar Mac OS 1.0 looked to Xerox Star? @microsoft: if you copy, copy WELL!
FenrirLupus,
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what is the name of computer in ussr russia
I'm missing MS Bob ;)
Mac os x still looks the same after 10 years
You missed Panther and Leopard
Someone has noticed the "Start" button in Xerox Alto? :P
and wow for the fake windows 7 screenshot! :D
@TheFri13 1/ like CDE, FMVM etc KDE look like MS WIN if you compare what has been done before on Unix ! 2/ I don"t try to impress yourselft 3/ Your picture don't show any menu bar.
If the system of the "menu bar" (Which I never seen) was so great in Star, why don't we use it nowdays ? Instead on Gnome, Kde, Amiga OS, MorphOS etc I can see something closer than Apple System 1.0 than what you are trying to call a menu bar and that you fail to show me...
Can't you just admit that you are wrong ?
i agree but windows 8 looks different. i prefer mac osx but it hasnt changed much eaither but i think itll be better than win 8 it looks like a tablet os brought to a desktop a change but for the worse.
1992 had workbench 3...
BeOS rules!!! There is one distro ZevenOS 3.0 (based on Ubuntu) that have gui very similar to gui of BeOS.
and i still run windows 98...
@sentidocomunve indeed, it feels like windows pooping on steve jobs's head doesn't it
Se te olvido la evolucion del mismo OSX, no es igual ahora ke en el 2000
where's linux?
I know what windows and Mac is what are the others