DM will have one video saying Dont Tuck and another saying Do Tuck, whatever gets the views in :) Ive only just stumbled on your channel and its my new fave......and I watch an unhealthy amount of golf instruction
Best coach I’ve found by far! Stuart’s understanding of all the bs out there and his ability to explain the real issues is amazing! If you’re not subscribed do yourself a favor!!
Respect for a very reasoned explanation of your teaching of the mechanics of the right arm in an achievable golf swing for the averagely endowed amateur golfer.
Unbelievable coach . Love the passion for golf & trying to help us understand the golf swing as it should perform. Iv spent too many hours on the range following others & not improved.. Thanks for your help. . Please keep it up 👍
This critique video references a recent Maude/Cowan that Mr. Cartwright admits he didn't entirely view and then misrepresents. I assume this is unintentional. Here's the deal. For situations when low ball flight and directional accuracy are most important, Cowan teaches a delofted impact method that is used as needed by accomplished golfers. It involves a delayed combination of tucked elbow and counter-rotated forearm through impact that is very effective but is very timing sensitive and takes substantial practice to coordinate. These points are covered as the M/C video proceeds, including DM's concerns that it will be too tricky for his typical subscriber. Golfers who grew up with UK/Ireland conditions commonly use this method by default, higher shots being the exception. With more roll-out and less predictable distance in the fairway, they also get very good at a lofted short game out to 100. Late in the video, Cowan makes the point that this way of turning of the face over and down can be partially incorporated into an existing swing by us mortals. Try it. It's subtle, all you have to do it even think about it, and it's enough. Cowan is not for everybody, but no instructor is. Maude has given him a fair airing in this and the chipping video with him.
Gosh it’s so interesting hearing your interpretation. The level of difficulty you make the game sound to golfers is worrying; but, we all interpret differently. Thanks for sharing and good luck my friend! Best wishes Stu 😊
Stuart, just thank you!! I like many others had been trying to fix the right arm and it wasn't working, straight pushes right..... now i know why... great channel and watching it in Canada!!
So lovely to hear you could relate to this and has now helped. My huge pleasure my friend and thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts! Love from the UK 🇬🇧
@@GoodGolfCoaching expat here..... going to share on our Alberta Golf page and see who else hits you up... so much sense in how you describe the golf swing (at last).
Dannng... going after Danny AND the so-called #1 golf coach in the world!!! You, sir, are a savage!! Plus, I really think there's something to this forearm rotation stuff. Still trying to figure out the pressure on the handle, but the forearm rotation has been working for me. Keep it up!!
Nobody is safe 😂😂 I have a video coming, just for you next week Punky, I’ll get you there my friend. Stay tuned. Thank you as ever for the huge support. Really appreciated. 😊🙌
@@GoodGolfCoaching 🙌 i wasn't focused so much on the tucking of the right arm, but rather the "spinning/rotating" of the right forearm down. was wondering what your thoughts were on that piece of dm/pc's video. (just watched your broom video pt 1 (great video!) and the moving of the handle down and around paralleled nicely with dm/pc's video too 👍🙌)
Hi, I also watched the same video then went to the range to try what they were promoting. Seemed so easy when they were doing it. How many of us have a golf swing like DM. Have been watching you on and off for several months now. I will definitely be watching more often and will be trying what your teaching in the future. Thank-you.👍
Thanks so much Dennis and I hope you find my advice a little easier to apply. Please let me know if you have any questions along the way! Best wishes Stu 😊
Well done again- Mentioned Danny and Pete a bit ago- and could see Danny wanting so badly to do as informed but reduced to struggling to manage motions and results. But with Pete’s history and self assured nature -who might question that, but merely know better and appreciate the opinion or option. Hard to be in position to know more that those we seek to learn from.. but ,if as you seem to have done,every lesson and person is part of the ultimate package. Or ,we get stuck thinking we know what we know to be best or correct..
I was told to tuck my arm in! Ugh! I felt so less power, awkward how could this produces a striking blow I asked my self! Good information! Thanks much, this is where I was when I started golf before lessons. It was very natural and powerful move.
Daniel, anyone who’s tucked their arms has felt a reduction in power, leverage and freedom. Utter rubbish and it should be a “walk away moment” the minute someone suggests this. I’m glad you’ve dropped it my friend. Bring on the good times! Best wishes Stu 😊
Thank you soooooo much Stu to bring such clarity through the myst of all these awkward tips, which always seemed to be very "artificial" to me. And this tucked right arm, flex left wrist appeared to me very very confusing and painful for my old joints 🤣. I confess I tend to believe there is a true legitimacy when I watch coachs like Danny. Who, by the way is giving also sometimes some good tips. But since I discovered your videos I enjoy that you always bring problems back to their roots and let each one of us with a better understanding of our own particularities and abilities. (Apologies if my english is not accurate enough to give a perfect appreciation of my thoughts). Great way to coach !!! 🙏😎
i saw the danny maude video and it gave me the impression i should tuck in my right elbow. the explanation in this video feels much better. it seems to me that you shouldn’t fix the right arm on the way down like DM says, but on the way up, like this video.
Years ago Steve Bannon had video on arms up and body around. Interesting concept you have refined and explained to make that motion become part of and a basic element of efficient and repeating swings …If we knew then…..
This is a truly great video. The explanations about the right arm length affecting the radius of the handle/swing vs. how the left arm affects the radius of the club head/swing is fascinating. Also - that drill of using the lift hand to illustrate & isolate the "feel" of the right arm/elbow during the downswing is brilliant. I'll be implementing that into my practice routine (I swing for a min of 30 mins a day, putt every day, and chip 2-3 times a week).
I quite like Mike Malaska and Milo lines, sort of like standing the club up in the backswing, similar to the "A" swing from Leadbetter and then looping it back like a figure of 8, it really works for me with hardly any thought. I was hitting the 4 iron today and the ball just shot off the clubface with what felt like hardly any effort
HI Stu - I have travelled the elbow-tucking path recently and, as I stated yesterday in another video comment... I subscribe to letting the kinetic chain do what it knows. Overly tucking the elbow is not what the kinetic chain does but it (my right elbow) HAS to go somewhere... and near the hip is where it travels. I believe forcing body positions is poison, we suck at it and it doesn't work. Great video Stu! Best, Mark.
Riveting lesson about tucking in right elbow! Watched the video you referenced of two well respected coaches, quite a difference of opinion! So started doing the drill you post here to get the right feel, have my arm move across my body as I turn back, then have forearm rotation to a degree. It definitely places the right elbow in a pretty decent spot. From there will work on pelvis and hip rotation/body turn through impact that you mention to insure chest and lower half move around the golf ball as right arm is being pulled in front of chest on the forward swing. This will be a key for my swing as I have battled with trying to keep right elbow into my side to avoid flying left elbow. At times it works great, but probably happens by chance.
What a wonderful over view of your game Randal and sharing your thoughts on the video. Thank you so much. Do check out my leg action videos to help with arm structure and torso mobility. Best wishes Stu 😊
@@GoodGolfCoaching Thank you! Will be going through your leg action videos for sure! One thing I struggle with is back pain in the past which I have worked on to strengthen. I also converted over to single plain swing for a few years with decent results because it was advertised as a “back friendly” swing. I just really didn’t like the dynamics of the swing though of keeping knees straight with a wide stance, and arms away from my body, etc. Anyways, back to having my arms placed in position to what you teach, which is more what I have always felt comfortable with and provides great ball striking. Just need to keep body back somewhat and off my toes during the swing. So definitely looking forward to your leg action videos as I’me sure you cover this🙂
Happy Saturday Stu! Interesting topic, it’s as if you are making these videos just for me 😂. After watching your “sequencing your swing” video which is probably my favorite, I finally started understanding the feeling I needed to grasp as it relates to forearm rotation / “shallowing” aka letting the club head move with gravity behind me when starting the downswing. I noticed that my right elbow naturally started anchoring towards my torso when doing so, but if I consciously tried to do it I would overemphasize the movement and hit shots way left of right, as you have demonstrated. Your video timing is impeccable, thanks for pointing out the reality here. Danny Maude seems like he’s genuinely trying to help folks, though I would agree his recent Pete Cowen videos only confused me 😅
I genuinely believe every single golf pro and video is aiming to help, my aim is to simply share my thoughts and DMs video has had close to a million views, and I felt it had some validity to reference and how it could confuse and harm golfers. I am so happy your golf is improving from the videos on my channel and no doubt others too Kyle, really appreciate you sharing your experiences as ever. Best wishes Stu 😊
Thanks, very interesting. What you show here fits precisely with what I have been learning about the right arm, forearm and elbow from other instructions, but you show what happens when you do it incorrectly. I have found as I try to improve that I do need to get my right forearm in the more vertical position you show, with the elbow a bit closer to the target than the wrist. Then on the downswing have the right elbow come in front of the right thigh. But you are quite right, one can overdo it and get into an excessively tucked position. I have done that to a degree and of course find that while I may make good contact, the ball will go to the right. On a par three, that means in the bunker or nasty rough off to the side. Bingo, par gone, bogey or double coming up. But if I work on keeping the right elbow in front of my chest as I turn back, not letting it get behind me, it will, exactly as you show, come down in front of my thigh with the right wrist in extension (bent back) but the face will be in correct alignment. It's complex, as you say. So many things to do right. It is easier on the range or in a practice bay to correct an erroneous arm structure with the next swing. Out on the course, it is easy to be distracted, to feel tension, be tired, forget, and of course you only get one swing. I have seen other good instructors who show that pros turn the arms back less than it appears. Once they get the correct arm structure, which you show, they only move the arms back a few inches. They do move the left bicep across the left pec, but the majority of the move back comes from turning the chest or torso, which, exactly as you say at minute 9, can only be done if you turn the pelvis. When you turn this way, you find that the right elbow stays in front of the chest and ends up roughly in line with the side of your shirt, not behind you. Then when you make the downswing the elbow does come down ahead of the wrist, as you and they show, but slightly out in front of you, not tucked in to the side and almost behind you. I do work to have my left wrist a bit bowed, in flexion, but it feels natural. If my left wrist is cupped it leaves the face open. Again, thanks.
My coach stressed this a bit a few lessons ago...I have a gap between my right arm/elbow and my right flank from shaft parallell in the downswing to just before impact. I have been unable to get that arm "tucked" much to his chagrin. I'm hitting the ball with good contact and hiting it relatively straight (I have a pull at times, and sometimes I push it out to the right). I'm more interested in results. My Index has dropped 8 points in the last year, so I don't stress about tucking my elbow. My bigger problem is that my right shoulder doesn't go down and then under (my shoulder tilt is left or near zero at shaft parallell in the downswing). When I promote shoulder tilt to the right, I hit it fat. Very frustrating game this golf. Thanks for validating what I've suspected about my right elbow.
@@GoodGolfCoaching it’s refreshing content. Context is so important which is why imho the channel will grow 🤞 Its disappointing seeing others pedalling ‘tips’ from so called experts without context. Keep focusing on putting yourself in the amateurs shoes and communicating holistic approach. Keep up the good work
So I’ve been working on keeping head behind the ball at impact and have some shaft lean to “collecting the ball” in the release. For doing so I feel that I have to tuck my right elbow in and delay the strike a bit, and the results where great when I timed it. Maybe it just comes down to feel more than reality. We can agree on that every pro have the same impact position and the body needs to do stuff to get there. I can’t see how a tucked elbow ain’t one of the things that needs to happen.
Such good content.... i've also tried the tucked right elbow but have a little problem with less external rotation in the right shoulder than i use to have. thanks so much for your information and your passion.... "maybe you'll have to put down the bacon sandwich or take your hands out of your pockets".... hahaha that was some good stuff....
Haha glad you liked the bacon roll gag - made me chuckle watching it back. Thank you for sharing you thoughts Les. Truly appreciated, and thanks for being a part of the channel. Best wishes Stu 😊
Love your stuff Stu but you totally missed the true impart of the Danny & Pete video! Get a good scotch have a sit and really watch and listen to the entire video! Thanks mate! 🙏🙏🙏
Stuart, "OUTSTANDING" educational coaching. You have significantly improved my understanding and happily lowered my scores. Suggest you diverisfy into relationship ( Marriage ) counselling for a varied income stream. Thx.
Tucking the right arm under the left is in baseball, called ‘bat drag’. It’s something that juniors do and robs speed. And in golf you also have to manage the clubface and with that move, an excessive path. Through impact top golfers have their right arm in line with their shirt seam not jammed in front. And in 3D some of the greatest ball strikers today in fact go internal with the right arm on the downswing. In 2D video it looks external.
Stuart, there you go, again, being the contrarian. 😂 I saw the video you’re talking about and tried it to see if it would make me swing better. It didn’t, in fact, I was swinging worse, my balls were slicing and I hit a lot of shanks. Not to mention that it started to hurt my back and wrist, and seriously decreased my speed. I quickly realized that that move was not for me, and went back to my normal swing, which, by the way, naturally tucks my right elbow without me having to manufacture it. I believe that many of the “old school” teachers are just wrong and won’t change. This is why I mainly ignore them, because they have flawed ideas of how the swing should works. Keep educating us. Cheers.
Tucking in the elbow causes a restricted back swing, and less distance. Everyone will have their elbows set differently. All you need to do is to find where your elbow is comfortable. Just make sure that your right hand holds the tray level.
So the short story is to collapse the right arm in the backswing to position the right elbow to look tucked in but helps to lengthen the left arm to get into the best position and follow through, personally, the right tucked helps more with rotation to get through the ball, but that said, that.s why I suck at golf,
@@GoodGolfCoaching After watching your Video, it doesn't work with the right arm tucked in it goes Right, Now, you owe me $12 after working with the Broom Drill I understand the reason why I sucked and helped me tremendously, thought brooms were for Witches, guess I have a New Ride, your Videos are amazing, came across by mistake. Thank you and you do not have to pay me back. 😁
I appreciate your instruction and insight but I believe you’ve missed some info from Pete Cowen. Maybe you should watch the rest of his videos-and I’m not being sarcastic. He clearly goes over needing to rotate the trail forearm on the way down. Not the wrists-because that’s “rolling” the the club into impact. He talks about rotating the trail forearm and putting “pressure” down into the ball. He speaks a LOT about “pressure” in fact. Have a great weekend-thank you for your help.
Thanks for you input Mike! Only said I disagree with isolating the right arm. Nothing more when it comes to Pete and Danny. Maybe watch the start of my video again, and I’m not being sarcastic either Sir. Best wishes Stu 😊
Thank you. Question. How is it that I hit all my irons flush for hours a day on my back yard matt. Then fat and top half the irons on the real grass in front of people.:(?
It’s very easy to have a poor angle of attack and still flush the golf ball off a mat, and then once you get to grass it shows up. I will do a video on this! Best wishes Stu
If you put some organic 🥑 avocado on your bacon sandwich with a lil bit of mayonnaise you might be able to jam your right arm even more down the target line 😂😂🤓🤓🤪🤪 Great video and thanks for a more tenable and realistic perspective 😊😊
I noticed something about your elbow joints ! I HAVE SEEN THIS ON MANY GOOD GOLFERS AND INSTRUCTORS. You have natural hyper extended elbows, basically more than 180 degrees, it is clear 6.10 into the video.
Im always skeptical of someone who says they don’t like what the video is teaching and they didn’t watch it all the way through, it ruins your credibility. I watched the DM video, and I did not get from it what you were saying at all, in fact, it seems like you were saying similar things a little differently.
Like I’ve mentioned in a few comments, the right arm in DM’s video as all about isolating the right arm.. really appreciate you sharing your thoughts and duly noted Sir. Best wishes Stu
@@GoodGolfCoaching Imho he doesn‘t do that in that video. He promotes this idea of spinning the right arm down after pointing out that this only works if you have a proper grip and „load the arm correctly“ which in your terms would be turning properly in the backswing I believe. He then assumes that if you spin the arm down the body will automatically do the right thing as a reaction to it. Plus his target group is Danny, a person who knows the basics and asked for an idea how to put more pressure on the ball. I cannot judge the validity of his or your teaching ideas because I am just a too bad of a golfer, so I will test and see who‘s ideas are helping me more.
Narrow right arm originates from a lack of hip turn. So, I’d encourage you to watch these two videos - th-cam.com/video/_xUtQpTaBI8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4NAlHGLFKJGlfM0J and then watch th-cam.com/video/U9GUEDdfNyU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GW-oC-y4hyw_pFgr - please me know how you get on. Best wishes Stu 😊
Be it golf. Football. Or any sport if you don’t have natural abilities you will struggle. Nearly every. Golf teacher seem to contradict each other . I have never had a golf lesson in my life and play of 8 handicap .
Couldn’t disagree more David… as someone who has never had a lesson, I don’t think you are well equipped to make an assumption of that magnitude. BUT, this is only my opinion on yours, as you have on golf coaches; I do however enjoy hearing your views my friend and welcome them always. 😊Best wishes Stu.
One more comment, do you ever have someone that is an excellent iron player but a terrible driver? I'm a 10 HDC and have been for several years. My favorite club is my 4 iron because my driver is horrendous. Please help. ☹️
Yes all the time Dennis; it normally starts with the realisation that all is not what it seems with the irons and the driver is just an extrapolation of whats happening with the irons. If the irons are truly awesome, i would alwasy go straight to Angle of Attack as an insight why you may struggle and then secondly to the strike. Hope that helps. Best wishes Stu 😊
Maybe all teachers are trying to alleviate major golf swing issues with compensations. I think one just needs to grip the club and swing. What is produced is what you have. And just how it is
The way your showing the elbow has wrong wrote all over it so totally agree with that..but peter cowen wasn't teaching that move. It would be interesting if you watched that video completely and tried it out for yourself and using your screen you got there for data on the change from your own swing. I'm remaining neutral. just misdiagnosis here..😊
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, taken them on board and will remember for next time. Thank you so much, it really is appreciated. Best wishes Stu 😊
Hmmm? Imo this is why golf is so difficult for us weekend golfers. I've been playing golf for 18 years with a 11 hdcp. Many golf instructors have their own "golf secret" to improve your swing. This video just discredit (or over exaggerated) a golf swing taught by a very well known golf instructor. Top players have adopted this swing technique with positive results. For me, the "tucked right elbow" technique was a gamechanger in my golf swing. I guess find your swing that works for you. Like Arnold Palmer said ... "Swing your swing."
I absolutely agree, golf can be confusing. I have no doubt people have made the “tucked right elbow” technique as you call it, has worked for man, at what cost. Distance, strike, consistency… I simply share my thoughts 😊. Discredit, I’m not sure about that, but that’s the beauty of media, if you put yourself up for viewing, we must take the highs and lows of the ride 😊. Big thanks for sharing your thoughts, really appreciated! Best wishes Stu 😊
Cowen clearly stressed that Maude had to keep his arm in position (tucked) by his side set in one position and drive it through with the body turning ,,trying this without the arms being allowed to move as you turn/ swing it certainly looks contrived and looks tucked in to me ,and this would definately hinder the grip being able to control the clubface ,,although tuck was not used it is what is being implied ,,and Maude certainly looked cramped and uncomfortable during the whole segment ,,but then being critical is a way to learn from everyone
Stu, love you and your vids - always bring a wry smile. However, the DM/PC video at no stage suggests ‘tucking the right elbow in’ or ‘hitting from the inside’. In fact at the start of the video PC goes as far as to say ‘the right arm needs to be loaded correctly in the backswing [for it to work]’ as you do here. I don’t agree with any YT downswing videos - generally- because you’ve got 2/10ths of a second to hit the ball from the top and if anyone thinks they can manipulate a golf shot in that time, good luck. As the great Peter Thompson (coach) says ‘95% of the golf swing is complete at the top of the backswing’. So I agree that 95% of downswing ‘faults’ are symptoms of earlier ‘idiosyncrasies’ in the back swing and the entire concept of making a ‘move’ on the downswing is flawed. But to insinuate that DM/PC demonstrated the approach you have accused them of here is plain wrong. PC even says ‘get the elbow out in front and track the body with the butt to the left’ which is an out to in feel and exactly what you profess. So, agree with get the backswing right and the rest will take care of itself, don’t agree with the assertion that PC/DM said what you’re asserting they did. Others have, but not them. PC even demos a drill which is pretty much the same as the one at the end of this video by holding on to the right elbow with his left hand. 😂 I think you should watch the DM video in full again.
Mark, appreciate your reply… The DM video is about the right arm, in my video I shared my belief that isolating the right arm in the downswing is not to be messed with in any regard, DMs video is all about that; I know Pete and I know what he referenced in this video without watching it. Thanks for your insights, thoughts and feelings, always very welcomed. Best wishes Stu 😊
Ok, first you admit at 2:30 or so that "you didn't even watch the video". Second, the movement discussed in the Pete Cowen / Danny Maude video is frequently and exhaustively discussed by numerous legitimate youtube golf instructors (Athletic Motion golf using Gears, Milo Lines, Mike Malaska, I could go on). Third, I've been trying this, and in combination with the split handed drill, it has given me a first time sense of what a "pivot" and compression in the golf swing actually feels like. So, my conclusion is that you are engaging in "click bait" rather than trying to help people improve their golf swing. IMO, YMMV.
@AviationSceptic lovely feedback and really welcome your passion! I think you may need to appreciate click bait would mean the video does not back up what the thumbnail suggests, which it does; is the video antagonistic, absolutely, because I believe in what I coach as does DM and PC. I know PC and know exactly where the video was going. I am so happy DM and PC’s advice has helped you, truly I am, and long may that continue. When I’ve coached over 40,000 hours and coached tour players and won on tour, I think my views and expertise is evidence based, which is why I have conviction in what I deliver. Thank you for being part of my golfing community, really love having you here. Best wishes Stu 😊
Stu, Absolutely agree that the right arm should not be messed with in the downswing, and the DM video with PC is a portion of my life I’ll never get back! However ‘tucking in’ is not what is suggested in DM’s video, in fact the suggestions made don’t differ substantially from your philosophy. That’s my point. I would be interested in your interpretation of ‘shallowing’ now that 3D motion capture has confirmed that the top of the backswing is as ‘shallow’ as Tour players get.@@GoodGolfCoaching
@@markcampbell1708 if you watch my video back, I don’t say once DM or PC suggest you should tuck your right arm in, I reference the right wrist, and reference they isolate the right arm in the down swing. I really appreciate your thoughts though Mark! Have a great Sunday Sir. 😊
Shooting from the hip, and backing it up with evidence… let’s make learning fun but absolutely effective. Thanks for the support Nathan. Love you too buddy.
@@GoodGolfCoaching the perception of perfect all the youtube instructors try to portray causes more harm than good. You see it at my local driving range all the time.
I watched the DM video before watching yours and Cowan never says what you are suggesting but I guess you have one more view of your vid on here,always enjoyed your content but think this was unnecessary
This should be a 1 min video. I am watching it at 1.5 x speed and skipping and you still haven't said anything 😩. Skip to 11:20 and he basically explains that you DO in fact keep the right elbow tucked. Thanks for that.
You have no concept of what a power golf swing is all about: the golf swing, rather a great swing, is not about swinging arms, the arms follow the body. It's the big muscle groups of the torso that create a repeatable and consistent swing. What you are spouting here is a swing from ancient history trotted out by most club pros and is based on the use of hickory shafts and feathery balls. The game has changed.
I’ve done that in many videos, and I do in this one… sorry I didn’t get to the point as quickly as you’d have liked. Will try better next time my friend. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Best wishes Stu 😊
Such wonderful feedback, and it sounds like I helped you get some much needed sleep! Thank you so much for the grammar critique, would love to hear your thoughts on all my other videos and thanks so much for being part of the channel! Best wishes Stu 😊
When I get a contractor to quote on some job around my house and they spend all their time knocking the competition they are toast. Spend more time showing us what you want us to do and why and we can be the judge. Drop the articulated lorry example. REALLY out of place! The cab is not trying to fling the trailer to get max speed at the back of the trailer. Spend more time showing what to do and less what not to do. Long videos might help you but not us.
Such wonderful feedback, super constructive and delivered with such warmth and sincerity. Thank you so much Brewster! Hope to hear more feedback soon my friend. Best wishes Stu 😊
Top coaches like Pete Cowens charge pro golfers 1000s of pounds/dollars, and so why would Pete Cowens do any worth while coaching on youtube for free? 🤔
LOL, your "click bait" thumbnail title did exactly what it inteded to do, got me to watch. After which, realizing what you did, won't bother with your channel anymore. Cheers.
How is the thumbnail clickbait?. It says "stop tucking this" and the entire video is about not tucking the right elbow. Dang dude, if it's not for you, I get it, but it's definitely not cluckbait.
Sir....i have also watched the video you have referred.....but it's not working for me..😂 For me you are the best, hence i unsubsidized every one....and follow your instructions....thanks for being a mentor from distance...much love and regards from India 🇮🇳
@@GoodGolfCoaching Hi Sir, Warm greetings In continuation to our previous chat as advised in broom drill it really improved my direction and i start hitting fairly straight. But, i now start hitting high and losing on distance by 30 to 40 yards. To get distance if i try to hit hard i hook or slice Very grateful if you can further give some tricks or make video. Infact, i shared your video's to my fellow golfers and everyone starts improving. We are very grateful for your kind coaching and we do enjoy your dialogue " Absolutely Garbage " because it's for us what we were doing.😀😀😀😀👏 Love & Rgds 🇮🇳
Hi Virendra - the quickest and low cost way for me help you is to take a “swing analysis” lesson on Skillest. It will give you exactly what you need. Hope that helps !
I watched 5 seconds of your video and you are obviously incorrect and know far less than I do about the golf swing. Nevertheless I have subscribed and will continue my endeavours to reduce my handicap to 35. Just kidding, loved it, and I'm actually off 3.
what annoys me is your video, I have seen no one suggest to exaggerate the right arm elbow to be in front of the chest like you have exaggerated, watch a Ben Hogan swing, his elbow is tucked into his side like Maude, Sagguto, Corgorno have shown. I have never seen anyone suggest practicing tucking the elbow like you claim they have. At impact your elbow is tucked in your side and facing up.
Let's see. What Cowen/Maude is teaching is based on what Ben Hogan was teaching. So you say either that Ben Hogan was wrong or Cowen has misunderstood what Ben Hogan taught. That Ben Hogen was wrong is out of the Q. Would a pro like Cowen misunderstand Hogen? Not likely. Sorry to say but logic tells us that you have missed the point. That points to suggest that you are stirring up a storm in a sippy cup to get attention. Good try. try again mite
I absolutely love your passion and gusto when you speak about your knowledge on the golf swing; you have utter belief in your understanding, this can offer up huge benefits as a golfer. I wish you well with them, and will leave you to your perceived Maude/Cowen/Hogan analogies Sir. Really really appreciate you sharing your thoughts, love it!! Best wishes Stu
Yeah its difficult because I disagree with Cowen on his thoughts on the release. Hes calling it flipping/manipulating the club head at inpact. And from the bunker he sais nothing about having the weight on your lead foot. My real inspiriation is from Padraig Harrington. That he only has 100k followers is beyond me. He takes the game from 0-100 in so few lessons it's scary. Thanks for the answer. Ideas are good dogmas is so wrong for the game of golf. And you bring ideas to the game. Thank you for that Sir.@@GoodGolfCoaching
Wait... So Cowen is one of the world's top coaches, with tour winners under his belt, but his teaching is Rubbish? Maybe it's just that his teaching isn't for everyone. As someone who takes in a lot of golf content, I'd say the issue is we aren't acknowledging that simple fact. That being that every instructor is not for everyone. And that's ok.
Hoping you don’t make sweeping statements like that in business my friend 😂😂”…his teaching is rubbish” - the wonderful opportunity TH-cam gives, is information, if you feel you have the knowledge I am so happy you have certainty in what you know. Go forwards my wonderful friend and achieve and worry no more about my thoughts. However, I absolutely love the passion you speak with and welcome every time you feel like sharing. Thank you! Best wishes Stu 😊
Well, you have to admit, he shows why it’s rubbish. And at my age, I don’t have time to go down fruitless rabbit holes. So, I thank the man for being transparent, no secrets here.
You know what I've been playing for years. A lot of content you see on you tube is way out of reach of the weekend golfer. We would be trying for years to adapt ourselves to some of these moves. We need simple and something that works. I think in Stuart we've found it. You can see the evidence in front of your very eyes. Either listen and adapt. Or move on
I think the problem/opportunity in golf is that everyone fights different battles in a game that is already really difficult. There's also a lot of different ways to explain it which responds to different ppl.
Cant you lessons guys get together and come up with the ideal swing vs tuck in one says don’t tuck in another says. If your not certified or PGA tour get off the channel.
Whether you’re PGA Tour or PGA accredited the depth of understanding will be vast across all individuals. It’s up to you who to listen to my friend. Best wishes Stu 😊
You obviously didn’t watch the whole video that Cowen and Maude made. He wasn’t saying tuck the elbow in , he was simply showing how to twist right forearm down while keeping wrist bent back to compress and lower ball flight. Do better
Thank you Stu for calling out these big TH-cam coaches who are giving symptom fixes and not addressing the root causes!
My absolute please Sir - thank you for the kind words of encouragement, really appreciated. Best wishes Stu 😊
DM will have one video saying Dont Tuck and another saying Do Tuck, whatever gets the views in :) Ive only just stumbled on your channel and its my new fave......and I watch an unhealthy amount of golf instruction
All about the views for so many even if the message is contradictory; let’s get golfers playing better. Number 1 aim here my friend.
Best coach I’ve found by far! Stuart’s understanding of all the bs out there and his ability to explain the real issues is amazing! If you’re not subscribed do yourself a favor!!
What a wonderful thing to say, truly blessed to have feedback like this. Thank you so very much, best wishes Stu 😊
Respect for a very reasoned explanation of your teaching of the mechanics of the right arm in an achievable golf swing for the averagely endowed amateur golfer.
Thank you for the kind feedback, much appreciated. Best wishes Stu
Unbelievable coach . Love the passion for golf & trying to help us understand the golf swing as it should perform.
Iv spent too many hours on the range following others & not improved.. Thanks for your help. . Please keep it up 👍
Thanks so much Robin, kind words of encouragement. I’m loving the journey and look forward to much more to come! Best wishes Stu 😊
Thank you!! This lesson has not only improved my swing but also helped me understand cause and effect of right arm in my golf swing.
100% 😁👍
Music to my ears!! An absolute pleasure, such lovely feedback and keeps me pushing on with the channel to bring you the best I have. Best wishes Stu 😊
This critique video references a recent Maude/Cowan that Mr. Cartwright admits he didn't entirely view and then misrepresents. I assume this is unintentional. Here's the deal.
For situations when low ball flight and directional accuracy are most important, Cowan teaches a delofted impact method that is used as needed by accomplished golfers. It involves a delayed combination of tucked elbow and counter-rotated forearm through impact that is very effective but is very timing sensitive and takes substantial practice to coordinate. These points are covered as the M/C video proceeds, including DM's concerns that it will be too tricky for his typical subscriber.
Golfers who grew up with UK/Ireland conditions commonly use this method by default, higher shots being the exception. With more roll-out and less predictable distance in the fairway, they also get very good at a lofted short game out to 100.
Late in the video, Cowan makes the point that this way of turning of the face over and down can be partially incorporated into an existing swing by us mortals. Try it. It's subtle, all you have to do it even think about it, and it's enough.
Cowan is not for everybody, but no instructor is. Maude has given him a fair airing in this and the chipping video with him.
Gosh it’s so interesting hearing your interpretation. The level of difficulty you make the game sound to golfers is worrying; but, we all interpret differently. Thanks for sharing and good luck my friend! Best wishes Stu 😊
Stuart, just thank you!! I like many others had been trying to fix the right arm and it wasn't working, straight pushes right..... now i know why... great channel and watching it in Canada!!
So lovely to hear you could relate to this and has now helped. My huge pleasure my friend and thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts! Love from the UK 🇬🇧
@@GoodGolfCoaching expat here..... going to share on our Alberta Golf page and see who else hits you up... so much sense in how you describe the golf swing (at last).
Wow that’s so lovely of you to share my channel like that. Thank you very much. Hugely appreciated.
You’re making such visual sense coach.I appreciate this video very much, thank you🙏
My pleasure Brian! Really appreciate the kind feedback my friend.
Dannng... going after Danny AND the so-called #1 golf coach in the world!!! You, sir, are a savage!!
Plus, I really think there's something to this forearm rotation stuff.
Still trying to figure out the pressure on the handle, but the forearm rotation has been working for me.
Keep it up!!
Nobody is safe 😂😂 I have a video coming, just for you next week Punky, I’ll get you there my friend. Stay tuned. Thank you as ever for the huge support. Really appreciated. 😊🙌
@intelligentgolfperformance Awesome brother! Loving your channel. I'm just a slow learner. 😂
I dunno. I watched the Danny Maude/Pete Cowen video as well and it helped me tremendously with compression and consistent strikes
@@Meeeks if it helped that’s the most important thing, which is what all this stuff is about! 😊🙌
@@GoodGolfCoaching 🙌 i wasn't focused so much on the tucking of the right arm, but rather the "spinning/rotating" of the right forearm down. was wondering what your thoughts were on that piece of dm/pc's video. (just watched your broom video pt 1 (great video!) and the moving of the handle down and around paralleled nicely with dm/pc's video too 👍🙌)
Hi, I also watched the same video then went to the range to try what they were promoting. Seemed so easy when they were doing it. How many of us have a golf swing like DM.
Have been watching you on and off for several months now. I will definitely be watching more often and will be trying what your teaching in the future.
Thank-you.👍
Thanks so much Dennis and I hope you find my advice a little easier to apply. Please let me know if you have any questions along the way! Best wishes Stu 😊
Well done again- Mentioned Danny and Pete a bit ago- and could see Danny wanting so badly to do as informed but reduced to struggling to manage motions and results. But with Pete’s history and self assured nature -who might question that, but merely know better and appreciate the opinion or option. Hard to be in position to know more that those we seek to learn from.. but ,if as you seem to have done,every lesson and person is part of the ultimate package. Or ,we get stuck thinking we know what we know to be best or correct..
When the student is ready, the coach will appear 😊 Best wishes Stu
I was told to tuck my arm in! Ugh! I felt so less power, awkward how could this produces a striking blow I asked my self!
Good information! Thanks much, this is where I was when I started golf before lessons. It was very natural and powerful move.
Daniel, anyone who’s tucked their arms has felt a reduction in power, leverage and freedom. Utter rubbish and it should be a “walk away moment” the minute someone suggests this. I’m glad you’ve dropped it my friend. Bring on the good times! Best wishes Stu 😊
I can hit straight drives with tucking the right elbow in. But push fades or duck hooks otherwise. Right elbow worked for Ben Hogan too.
Fantastic if it’s working my friend!
Thanks Stu! I was ones of those that tucked in the right elbow, will sure try out this way now!!
Thank goodness you found this video, no more tuck!
Thank you soooooo much Stu to bring such clarity through the myst of all these awkward tips, which always seemed to be very "artificial" to me. And this tucked right arm, flex left wrist appeared to me very very confusing and painful for my old joints 🤣. I confess I tend to believe there is a true legitimacy when I watch coachs like Danny. Who, by the way is giving also sometimes some good tips. But since I discovered your videos I enjoy that you always bring problems back to their roots and let each one of us with a better understanding of our own particularities and abilities. (Apologies if my english is not accurate enough to give a perfect appreciation of my thoughts). Great way to coach !!! 🙏😎
My pleasure Didier, super pleased I could give you some clarity. Look forward to hearing from you in the future. Best wishes Stu
i saw the danny maude video and it gave me the impression i should tuck in my right elbow. the explanation in this video feels much better. it seems to me that you shouldn’t fix the right arm on the way down like DM says, but on the way up, like this video.
Glad my video helped Marc, please don’t actively tuck in the way down, worse thing ever. Best wishes Stu
Years ago Steve Bannon had video on arms up and body around. Interesting concept you have refined and explained to make that motion become part of and a basic element of efficient and repeating swings …If we knew then…..
Hopefully knowing now goes to making up for all the time you didnt 😂.. best wishes Stu 😊
This is a truly great video. The explanations about the right arm length affecting the radius of the handle/swing vs. how the left arm affects the radius of the club head/swing is fascinating. Also - that drill of using the lift hand to illustrate & isolate the "feel" of the right arm/elbow during the downswing is brilliant. I'll be implementing that into my practice routine (I swing for a min of 30 mins a day, putt every day, and chip 2-3 times a week).
Thanks so much John, glad it helped and you it enjoyable. Such kind feedback 😊
I quite like Mike Malaska and Milo lines, sort of like standing the club up in the backswing, similar to the "A" swing from Leadbetter and then looping it back like a figure of 8, it really works for me with hardly any thought. I was hitting the 4 iron today and the ball just shot off the clubface with what felt like hardly any effort
Sounds like Mike and Milo have you covered ! 🙌🙌 Best wishes Stu
The best teaching channel on TH-cam period
Really appreciate that Sean, thank you Sir.
This the first one you've seen?
@@missyrupert oh dear a troll
Not sure he was trolling, just asking if this was the first of my content you’d watched? Super friendly group here my friend.
@@seanquigley3624 Odd comment. Relax
HI Stu - I have travelled the elbow-tucking path recently and, as I stated yesterday in another video comment... I subscribe to letting the kinetic chain do what it knows. Overly tucking the elbow is not what the kinetic chain does but it (my right elbow) HAS to go somewhere... and near the hip is where it travels. I believe forcing body positions is poison, we suck at it and it doesn't work. Great video Stu! Best, Mark.
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts Mark, really appreciated Sir and glad you enjoyed the video. Best wishes Stu
@@GoodGolfCoaching 👍
Riveting lesson about tucking in right elbow! Watched the video you referenced of two well respected coaches, quite a difference of opinion!
So started doing the drill you post here to get the right feel, have my arm move across my body as I turn back, then have forearm rotation to a degree. It definitely places the right elbow in a pretty decent spot. From there will work on pelvis and hip rotation/body turn through impact that you mention to insure chest and lower half move around the golf ball as right arm is being pulled in front of chest on the forward swing.
This will be a key for my swing as I have battled with trying to keep right elbow into my side to avoid flying left elbow. At times it works great, but probably happens by chance.
What a wonderful over view of your game Randal and sharing your thoughts on the video. Thank you so much. Do check out my leg action videos to help with arm structure and torso mobility. Best wishes Stu 😊
@@GoodGolfCoaching Thank you! Will be going through your leg action videos for sure!
One thing I struggle with is back pain in the past which I have worked on to strengthen. I also converted over to single plain swing for a few years with decent results because it was advertised as a “back friendly” swing. I just really didn’t like the dynamics of the swing though of keeping knees straight with a wide stance, and arms away from my body, etc. Anyways, back to having my arms placed in position to what you teach, which is more what I have always felt comfortable with and provides great ball striking. Just need to keep body back somewhat and off my toes during the swing. So definitely looking forward to your leg action videos as I’me sure you cover this🙂
@@RWCARC do let me know if you have any further questions Randal!
Happy Saturday Stu! Interesting topic, it’s as if you are making these videos just for me 😂. After watching your “sequencing your swing” video which is probably my favorite, I finally started understanding the feeling I needed to grasp as it relates to forearm rotation / “shallowing” aka letting the club head move with gravity behind me when starting the downswing. I noticed that my right elbow naturally started anchoring towards my torso when doing so, but if I consciously tried to do it I would overemphasize the movement and hit shots way left of right, as you have demonstrated. Your video timing is impeccable, thanks for pointing out the reality here.
Danny Maude seems like he’s genuinely trying to help folks, though I would agree his recent Pete Cowen videos only confused me 😅
I genuinely believe every single golf pro and video is aiming to help, my aim is to simply share my thoughts and DMs video has had close to a million views, and I felt it had some validity to reference and how it could confuse and harm golfers. I am so happy your golf is improving from the videos on my channel and no doubt others too Kyle, really appreciate you sharing your experiences as ever. Best wishes Stu 😊
Where gave you been all my life? Love your videos!
Haha right here Ned / glad we found each other in the end. 😊Best wishes Stu
Thanks, very interesting. What you show here fits precisely with what I have been learning about the right arm, forearm and elbow from other instructions, but you show what happens when you do it incorrectly. I have found as I try to improve that I do need to get my right forearm in the more vertical position you show, with the elbow a bit closer to the target than the wrist. Then on the downswing have the right elbow come in front of the right thigh. But you are quite right, one can overdo it and get into an excessively tucked position. I have done that to a degree and of course find that while I may make good contact, the ball will go to the right. On a par three, that means in the bunker or nasty rough off to the side. Bingo, par gone, bogey or double coming up. But if I work on keeping the right elbow in front of my chest as I turn back, not letting it get behind me, it will, exactly as you show, come down in front of my thigh with the right wrist in extension (bent back) but the face will be in correct alignment. It's complex, as you say. So many things to do right. It is easier on the range or in a practice bay to correct an erroneous arm structure with the next swing. Out on the course, it is easy to be distracted, to feel tension, be tired, forget, and of course you only get one swing. I have seen other good instructors who show that pros turn the arms back less than it appears. Once they get the correct arm structure, which you show, they only move the arms back a few inches. They do move the left bicep across the left pec, but the majority of the move back comes from turning the chest or torso, which, exactly as you say at minute 9, can only be done if you turn the pelvis. When you turn this way, you find that the right elbow stays in front of the chest and ends up roughly in line with the side of your shirt, not behind you. Then when you make the downswing the elbow does come down ahead of the wrist, as you and they show, but slightly out in front of you, not tucked in to the side and almost behind you. I do work to have my left wrist a bit bowed, in flexion, but it feels natural. If my left wrist is cupped it leaves the face open. Again, thanks.
Great insights John! Best wishes Stu
My coach stressed this a bit a few lessons ago...I have a gap between my right arm/elbow and my right flank from shaft parallell in the downswing to just before impact. I have been unable to get that arm "tucked" much to his chagrin. I'm hitting the ball with good contact and hiting it relatively straight (I have a pull at times, and sometimes I push it out to the right). I'm more interested in results. My Index has dropped 8 points in the last year, so I don't stress about tucking my elbow. My bigger problem is that my right shoulder doesn't go down and then under (my shoulder tilt is left or near zero at shaft parallell in the downswing). When I promote shoulder tilt to the right, I hit it fat. Very frustrating game this golf.
Thanks for validating what I've suspected about my right elbow.
Fantastic to hear the lack of attention to tucking the right elbow has still made your golf improve! This makes me very happy 😃 #notsogrumpynow
Thanks Stu. Couldn’t agree more. Watched the DM vid. Thought it was poor advice. ‘Chucking the right arm at it’ is just wrong!
Thank you Sir - felt bad about name and shaming but in the end, I’m a blip in the radar of the big YT channels, so, I spoke up 😂😂
@@GoodGolfCoaching it’s refreshing content. Context is so important which is why imho the channel will grow 🤞 Its disappointing seeing others pedalling ‘tips’ from so called experts without context. Keep focusing on putting yourself in the amateurs shoes and communicating holistic approach. Keep up the good work
So I’ve been working on keeping head behind the ball at impact and have some shaft lean to “collecting the ball” in the release. For doing so I feel that I have to tuck my right elbow in and delay the strike a bit, and the results where great when I timed it.
Maybe it just comes down to feel more than reality.
We can agree on that every pro have the same impact position and the body needs to do stuff to get there.
I can’t see how a tucked elbow ain’t one of the things that needs to happen.
If my video didn’t convince you, that’s cool my friend. Happy golfing! Best wishes Stu 😊
When I’ve tried to have the feel of the right elbow I pretty much shank every shot. I have much better results with trying to keep hip depth
Great stuff Lance, whatever works for you my friend. Best wishes Stu 😊
Such good content.... i've also tried the tucked right elbow but have a little problem with less external rotation in the right shoulder than i use to have. thanks so much for your information and your passion.... "maybe you'll have to put down the bacon sandwich or take your hands out of your pockets".... hahaha that was some good stuff....
Haha glad you liked the bacon roll gag - made me chuckle watching it back. Thank you for sharing you thoughts Les. Truly appreciated, and thanks for being a part of the channel. Best wishes Stu 😊
Fantastic! Thank you. ❤️
Glad you enjoyed, and it’s a pleasure. 😊
Another great video 👍👍
Thanks Dave!
😂 I have to agree! Tried the right arm manipulation before and ended up with drives 100 yards plus right of target. Was pretty embarrassing.
Amen Matt; mess with the right arm in isolation at your peril!
Love your stuff Stu but you totally missed the true impart of the Danny & Pete video! Get a good scotch have a sit and really watch and listen to the entire video! Thanks mate! 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for your thoughts!! Best wishes 👍
Stuart, "OUTSTANDING" educational coaching. You have significantly improved my understanding and happily lowered my scores. Suggest you diverisfy into relationship ( Marriage ) counselling for a varied income stream. Thx.
Haha thank you so much, lovely feedback. Think I’ll steer clear of the marriage counselling, not sure I have the patience. 🤣🤣
Great stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it
Tucking the right arm under the left is in baseball, called ‘bat drag’. It’s something that juniors do and robs speed. And in golf you also have to manage the clubface and with that move, an excessive path. Through impact top golfers have their right arm in line with their shirt seam not jammed in front.
And in 3D some of the greatest ball strikers today in fact go internal with the right arm on the downswing. In 2D video it looks external.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts !! I’m sure people enjoyed 😊 - Best wishes Stu
I used to try to tuck my arm, but I play much better just going with the flow of what my body wants to do naturally. I agree sir.
Music to my ears Red, and quite frankly, so you should! Keep it up ! 😊🙌
Stuart, there you go, again, being the contrarian. 😂 I saw the video you’re talking about and tried it to see if it would make me swing better. It didn’t, in fact, I was swinging worse, my balls were slicing and I hit a lot of shanks. Not to mention that it started to hurt my back and wrist, and seriously decreased my speed. I quickly realized that that move was not for me, and went back to my normal swing, which, by the way, naturally tucks my right elbow without me having to manufacture it. I believe that many of the “old school” teachers are just wrong and won’t change. This is why I mainly ignore them, because they have flawed ideas of how the swing should works. Keep educating us. Cheers.
@@roadtoscratchgolf3481 love reading your messages bud, always make me smile. Thank you. Best wishes Stu 😊
Tucking in the elbow causes a restricted back swing, and less distance. Everyone will have their elbows set differently. All you need to do is to find where your elbow is comfortable. Just make sure that your right hand holds the tray level.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Best wishes Stu
So the short story is to collapse the right arm in the backswing to position the right elbow to look tucked in but helps to lengthen the left arm to get into the best position and follow through, personally, the right tucked helps more with rotation to get through the ball, but that said, that.s why I suck at golf,
Quite the opposite, right arm tuck hurts rotation. But, if it works for you, go for it and good luck!
@@GoodGolfCoaching After watching your Video, it doesn't work with the right arm tucked in it goes Right, Now, you owe me $12 after working with the Broom Drill I understand the reason why I sucked and helped me tremendously, thought brooms were for Witches, guess I have a New Ride, your Videos are amazing, came across by mistake. Thank you and you do not have to pay me back. 😁
Not sure where the 12 bucks comes in but glad you’ve let me off cos I was going to charge you 25K for being a subscriber 😂😂😂
If you practice like you are skipping a stone is that a good drill??? Thanks
I’m not a fan of that Brody, no Sir. Best wishes Stu 😊
I need to come down and have a session!
All my coaching details are in the descriptions of all my videos and also Skillest links. Always here to help 😊
I appreciate your instruction and insight but I believe you’ve missed some info from Pete Cowen. Maybe you should watch the rest of his videos-and I’m not being sarcastic. He clearly goes over needing to rotate the trail forearm on the way down. Not the wrists-because that’s “rolling” the the club into impact. He talks about rotating the trail forearm and putting “pressure” down into the ball. He speaks a LOT about “pressure” in fact. Have a great weekend-thank you for your help.
Thanks for you input Mike! Only said I disagree with isolating the right arm. Nothing more when it comes to Pete and Danny. Maybe watch the start of my video again, and I’m not being sarcastic either Sir. Best wishes Stu 😊
@@GoodGolfCoaching Thank you Stu! Makes more sense to me now. I appreciate it. You have a new loyal fan 👍🏻
Thank you. Question. How is it that I hit all my irons flush for hours a day on my back yard matt. Then fat and top half the irons on the real grass in front of people.:(?
It’s very easy to have a poor angle of attack and still flush the golf ball off a mat, and then once you get to grass it shows up. I will do a video on this! Best wishes Stu
If you put some organic 🥑 avocado on your bacon sandwich with a lil bit of mayonnaise you might be able to jam your right arm even more down the target line 😂😂🤓🤓🤪🤪 Great video and thanks for a more tenable and realistic perspective 😊😊
Haha that did make me laugh, wondered where you were going with that!! 🙌😂
I noticed something about your elbow joints ! I HAVE SEEN THIS ON MANY GOOD GOLFERS AND INSTRUCTORS. You have natural hyper extended elbows, basically more than 180 degrees, it is clear 6.10 into the video.
I am not saying is bad but I definetly think this added flexibility helps you get in good positions, same as your NATURAL scapula FLEXIBILITY
I can absolutely confirm I do not have hypermobility in my elbows, absolutely not. What you believe you are seeing is not correct my friend.
Im always skeptical of someone who says they don’t like what the video is teaching and they didn’t watch it all the way through, it ruins your credibility. I watched the DM video, and I did not get from it what you were saying at all, in fact, it seems like you were saying similar things a little differently.
Like I’ve mentioned in a few comments, the right arm in DM’s video as all about isolating the right arm.. really appreciate you sharing your thoughts and duly noted Sir. Best wishes Stu
Smashing!
Thanks Chris!! 😊
I can't remember that the message of the Pete Cowen video was tucking the right arm, it was spinning the right arm down.
Hi Thomas, in my video I never suggest DM says verbatim to tuck the arm. I simply recommend never isolating the right arm.
@@GoodGolfCoaching Imho he doesn‘t do that in that video. He promotes this idea of spinning the right arm down after pointing out that this only works if you have a proper grip and „load the arm correctly“ which in your terms would be turning properly in the backswing I believe. He then assumes that if you spin the arm down the body will automatically do the right thing as a reaction to it. Plus his target group is Danny, a person who knows the basics and asked for an idea how to put more pressure on the ball. I cannot judge the validity of his or your teaching ideas because I am just a too bad of a golfer, so I will test and see who‘s ideas are helping me more.
Do you have a fix for the narrow right arm in the backswing? It’s an absolute curse.
Narrow right arm originates from a lack of hip turn. So, I’d encourage you to watch these two videos - th-cam.com/video/_xUtQpTaBI8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4NAlHGLFKJGlfM0J and then watch th-cam.com/video/U9GUEDdfNyU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GW-oC-y4hyw_pFgr - please me know how you get on. Best wishes Stu 😊
Be it golf. Football. Or any sport if you don’t have natural abilities you will struggle. Nearly every. Golf teacher seem to contradict each other . I have never had a golf lesson in my life and play of 8 handicap .
Couldn’t disagree more David… as someone who has never had a lesson, I don’t think you are well equipped to make an assumption of that magnitude. BUT, this is only my opinion on yours, as you have on golf coaches; I do however enjoy hearing your views my friend and welcome them always. 😊Best wishes Stu.
One more comment, do you ever have someone that is an excellent iron player but a terrible driver? I'm a 10 HDC and have been for several years. My favorite club is my 4 iron because my driver is horrendous.
Please help. ☹️
Yes all the time Dennis; it normally starts with the realisation that all is not what it seems with the irons and the driver is just an extrapolation of whats happening with the irons. If the irons are truly awesome, i would alwasy go straight to Angle of Attack as an insight why you may struggle and then secondly to the strike. Hope that helps. Best wishes Stu 😊
Maybe all teachers are trying to alleviate major golf swing issues with compensations. I think one just needs to grip the club and swing. What is produced is what you have. And just how it is
If you feel that works for you, go for it my friend. 😊Best wishes Stu
The way your showing the elbow has wrong wrote all over it so totally agree with that..but peter cowen wasn't teaching that move. It would be interesting if you watched that video completely and tried it out for yourself and using your screen you got there for data on the change from your own swing. I'm remaining neutral. just misdiagnosis here..😊
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, taken them on board and will remember for next time. Thank you so much, it really is appreciated. Best wishes Stu 😊
Good video, Stuart. Eight minutes longer than it needed to be, but what the heck...
Haha duly noted Stephen - will keep this in mind for next time 😊
That's good coaching... why do you never mention the GRIP.....?
I assume there is a hint of sarcasm there?! 😂😂
@@GoodGolfCoaching keep these coming, best channel by far.. learned so much. Thank you.
@@savvy2807 Thanks so much Savy, will do my friend! And as much, I really appreciate your support of my channel.
Hmmm? Imo this is why golf is so difficult for us weekend golfers. I've been playing golf for 18 years with a 11 hdcp. Many golf instructors have their own "golf secret" to improve your swing. This video just discredit (or over exaggerated) a golf swing taught by a very well known golf instructor. Top players have adopted this swing technique with positive results. For me, the "tucked right elbow" technique was a gamechanger in my golf swing. I guess find your swing that works for you. Like Arnold Palmer said ... "Swing your swing."
I absolutely agree, golf can be confusing. I have no doubt people have made the “tucked right elbow” technique as you call it, has worked for man, at what cost. Distance, strike, consistency… I simply share my thoughts 😊. Discredit, I’m not sure about that, but that’s the beauty of media, if you put yourself up for viewing, we must take the highs and lows of the ride 😊. Big thanks for sharing your thoughts, really appreciated! Best wishes Stu 😊
Cowen clearly stressed that Maude had to keep his arm in position (tucked) by his side set in one position and drive it through with the body turning ,,trying this without the arms being allowed to move as you turn/ swing it certainly looks contrived and looks tucked in to me ,and this would definately hinder the grip being able to control the clubface ,,although tuck was not used it is what is being implied ,,and Maude certainly looked cramped and uncomfortable during the whole segment ,,but then being critical is a way to learn from everyone
Thanks Graham - really appreciate your thoughts. Best wishes as ever, Stu 😊
Stu, love you and your vids - always bring a wry smile. However, the DM/PC video at no stage suggests ‘tucking the right elbow in’ or ‘hitting from the inside’.
In fact at the start of the video PC goes as far as to say ‘the right arm needs to be loaded correctly in the backswing [for it to work]’ as you do here.
I don’t agree with any YT downswing videos - generally- because you’ve got 2/10ths of a second to hit the ball from the top and if anyone thinks they can manipulate a golf shot in that time, good luck.
As the great Peter Thompson (coach) says ‘95% of the golf swing is complete at the top of the backswing’. So I agree that 95% of downswing ‘faults’ are symptoms of earlier ‘idiosyncrasies’ in the back swing and the entire concept of making a ‘move’ on the downswing is flawed.
But to insinuate that DM/PC demonstrated the approach you have accused them of here is plain wrong.
PC even says ‘get the elbow out in front and track the body with the butt to the left’ which is an out to in feel and exactly what you profess.
So, agree with get the backswing right and the rest will take care of itself, don’t agree with the assertion that PC/DM said what you’re asserting they did. Others have, but not them.
PC even demos a drill which is pretty much the same as the one at the end of this video by holding on to the right elbow with his left hand. 😂
I think you should watch the DM video in full again.
Mark, appreciate your reply…
The DM video is about the right arm, in my video I shared my belief that isolating the right arm in the downswing is not to be messed with in any regard, DMs video is all about that; I know Pete and I know what he referenced in this video without watching it.
Thanks for your insights, thoughts and feelings, always very welcomed. Best wishes Stu 😊
Ok, first you admit at 2:30 or so that "you didn't even watch the video". Second, the movement discussed in the Pete Cowen / Danny Maude video is frequently and exhaustively discussed by numerous legitimate youtube golf instructors (Athletic Motion golf using Gears, Milo Lines, Mike Malaska, I could go on). Third, I've been trying this, and in combination with the split handed drill, it has given me a first time sense of what a "pivot" and compression in the golf swing actually feels like.
So, my conclusion is that you are engaging in "click bait" rather than trying to help people improve their golf swing.
IMO, YMMV.
@AviationSceptic lovely feedback and really welcome your passion! I think you may need to appreciate click bait would mean the video does not back up what the thumbnail suggests, which it does; is the video antagonistic, absolutely, because I believe in what I coach as does DM and PC. I know PC and know exactly where the video was going.
I am so happy DM and PC’s advice has helped you, truly I am, and long may that continue.
When I’ve coached over 40,000 hours and coached tour players and won on tour, I think my views and expertise is evidence based, which is why I have conviction in what I deliver.
Thank you for being part of my golfing community, really love having you here. Best wishes Stu 😊
Stu,
Absolutely agree that the right arm should not be messed with in the downswing, and the DM video with PC is a portion of my life I’ll never get back!
However ‘tucking in’ is not what is suggested in DM’s video, in fact the suggestions made don’t differ substantially from your philosophy.
That’s my point.
I would be interested in your interpretation of ‘shallowing’ now that 3D motion capture has confirmed that the top of the backswing is as ‘shallow’ as Tour players get.@@GoodGolfCoaching
@@markcampbell1708 if you watch my video back, I don’t say once DM or PC suggest you should tuck your right arm in, I reference the right wrist, and reference they isolate the right arm in the down swing. I really appreciate your thoughts though Mark! Have a great Sunday Sir. 😊
I love you!!!! I love the honesty of the horse shit that’s on TH-cam.
Shooting from the hip, and backing it up with evidence… let’s make learning fun but absolutely effective. Thanks for the support Nathan. Love you too buddy.
@@GoodGolfCoaching the perception of perfect all the youtube instructors try to portray causes more harm than good. You see it at my local driving range all the time.
I Prefer Pete Cowen, Tom Saguto, Steve Johnston. I do think most have a good swing, but some explain in better terms.
Super, I’m happy you’ve found coaches that meet your needs! Best wishes Stu 😊
I watched the DM video before watching yours and Cowan never says what you are suggesting but I guess you have one more view of your vid on here,always enjoyed your content but think this was unnecessary
Noted Philip, the video has some polarised views and I loved hearing yours. Thank you Sir. Best wishes Stu 😊
Go in in CC CC
Not sure what that means, but thanks for sharing!
This should be a 1 min video. I am watching it at 1.5 x speed and skipping and you still haven't said anything 😩. Skip to 11:20 and he basically explains that you DO in fact keep the right elbow tucked. Thanks for that.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts ! Very insightful 😂
Sir, you spend more time telling us what not to do rather what to do. Please tell us what is the right swing.
I did, didn’t I? 😊
You have no concept of what a power golf swing is all about: the golf swing, rather a great swing, is not about swinging arms, the arms follow the body. It's the big muscle groups of the torso that create a repeatable and consistent swing. What you are spouting here is a swing from ancient history trotted out by most club pros and is based on the use of hickory shafts and feathery balls. The game has changed.
Hey Tim, thanks for sharing your thoughts my friend and I wish you well with your pursuit in finding a golf game. Best wishes Stu
@@GoodGolfCoaching don't worry about me Stu: I know the absolute method of swinging the club with power and consistency. Stay healthy:)
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I think u have confused the matter. Imstead just tell us what is the proper way to hit the ball.
I’ve done that in many videos, and I do in this one… sorry I didn’t get to the point as quickly as you’d have liked. Will try better next time my friend. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Best wishes Stu 😊
I fell asleep for a couple hours, woke up and he still hadn’t made a point. Also, ‘Drop’ is misspelled at the 6:27 mark
Such wonderful feedback, and it sounds like I helped you get some much needed sleep! Thank you so much for the grammar critique, would love to hear your thoughts on all my other videos and thanks so much for being part of the channel! Best wishes Stu 😊
To be clear, it was a spelling issue I noticed, your grammar is fine from what I can tell.
@@jstngerald wonderful, thats a great relief. There was me thunking I hid a spolling priblem !!
You did not Dopr the ball when it came to grammar.
When I get a contractor to quote on some job around my house and they spend all their time knocking the competition they are toast. Spend more time showing us what you want us to do and why and we can be the judge. Drop the articulated lorry example. REALLY out of place! The cab is not trying to fling the trailer to get max speed at the back of the trailer. Spend more time showing what to do and less what not to do. Long videos might help you but not us.
Such wonderful feedback, super constructive and delivered with such warmth and sincerity. Thank you so much Brewster! Hope to hear more feedback soon my friend. Best wishes Stu 😊
Top coaches like Pete Cowens charge pro golfers 1000s of pounds/dollars, and so why would Pete Cowens do any worth while coaching on youtube for free? 🤔
Hmmmmmm 😂
LOL, your "click bait" thumbnail title did exactly what it inteded to do, got me to watch. After which, realizing what you did, won't bother with your channel anymore.
Cheers.
No problem at all - wish you lots of luck with your golf Sir. Best wishes Stu 😊
How is the thumbnail clickbait?. It says "stop tucking this" and the entire video is about not tucking the right elbow.
Dang dude, if it's not for you, I get it, but it's definitely not cluckbait.
You just copy Pete Cowen's idea and modify it and call it your idea. Pretty smart..😂😂😂
Hahaha of course I did !! Glad you noticed 😂 💩
Sir....i have also watched the video you have referred.....but it's not working for me..😂
For me you are the best, hence i unsubsidized every one....and follow your instructions....thanks for being a mentor from distance...much love and regards from India 🇮🇳
Bless you Virendra, really appreciate your support my friend. Please let me know if you have any questions along the way. Best wishes Stu 😊
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Hi Sir,
Warm greetings
In continuation to our previous chat as advised in broom drill it really improved my direction and i start hitting fairly straight.
But, i now start hitting high and losing on distance by 30 to 40 yards.
To get distance if i try to hit hard i hook or slice
Very grateful if you can further give some tricks or make video.
Infact, i shared your video's to my fellow golfers and everyone starts improving.
We are very grateful for your kind coaching
and we do enjoy your dialogue
" Absolutely Garbage "
because it's for us what we were doing.😀😀😀😀👏
Love & Rgds
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Hi Virendra - the quickest and low cost way for me help you is to take a “swing analysis” lesson on Skillest. It will give you exactly what you need. Hope that helps !
I feel the need to unlearn a ton of stuff..
Sadly there is a lot of bad stuff out there Emil - we will get you through it together 😊
I watched 5 seconds of your video and you are obviously incorrect and know far less than I do about the golf swing. Nevertheless I have subscribed and will continue my endeavours to reduce my handicap to 35. Just kidding, loved it, and I'm actually off 3.
Haha thanks Red, appreciate the kind words. Wondered where you were going with the opening line 😂😂
Yeah some of these comments @@GoodGolfCoaching 🤷
Tell me about it 🤦♂️
Bryson Looks Like this
Have you watched the video Seb?
what annoys me is your video, I have seen no one suggest to exaggerate the right arm elbow to be in front of the chest like you have exaggerated, watch a Ben Hogan swing, his elbow is tucked into his side like Maude, Sagguto, Corgorno have shown. I have never seen anyone suggest practicing tucking the elbow like you claim they have. At impact your elbow is tucked in your side and facing up.
Sorry if I annoy Daniel; not intended, just doing my thing the best I can. 😊
Let's see. What Cowen/Maude is teaching is based on what Ben Hogan was teaching. So you say either that Ben Hogan was wrong or Cowen has misunderstood what Ben Hogan taught. That Ben Hogen was wrong is out of the Q. Would a pro like Cowen misunderstand Hogen? Not likely. Sorry to say but logic tells us that you have missed the point. That points to suggest that you are stirring up a storm in a sippy cup to get attention. Good try. try again mite
I absolutely love your passion and gusto when you speak about your knowledge on the golf swing; you have utter belief in your understanding, this can offer up huge benefits as a golfer. I wish you well with them, and will leave you to your perceived Maude/Cowen/Hogan analogies Sir. Really really appreciate you sharing your thoughts, love it!! Best wishes Stu
Yeah its difficult because I disagree with Cowen on his thoughts on the release. Hes calling it flipping/manipulating the club head at inpact. And from the bunker he sais nothing about having the weight on your lead foot. My real inspiriation is from Padraig Harrington. That he only has 100k followers is beyond me. He takes the game from 0-100 in so few lessons it's scary. Thanks for the answer. Ideas are good dogmas is so wrong for the game of golf. And you bring ideas to the game. Thank you for that Sir.@@GoodGolfCoaching
Wait... So Cowen is one of the world's top coaches, with tour winners under his belt, but his teaching is Rubbish? Maybe it's just that his teaching isn't for everyone. As someone who takes in a lot of golf content, I'd say the issue is we aren't acknowledging that simple fact. That being that every instructor is not for everyone. And that's ok.
Hoping you don’t make sweeping statements like that in business my friend 😂😂”…his teaching is rubbish” - the wonderful opportunity TH-cam gives, is information, if you feel you have the knowledge I am so happy you have certainty in what you know. Go forwards my wonderful friend and achieve and worry no more about my thoughts. However, I absolutely love the passion you speak with and welcome every time you feel like sharing. Thank you! Best wishes Stu 😊
Well, you have to admit, he shows why it’s rubbish. And at my age, I don’t have time to go down fruitless rabbit holes. So, I thank the man for being transparent, no secrets here.
You know what I've been playing for years. A lot of content you see on you tube is way out of reach of the weekend golfer. We would be trying for years to adapt ourselves to some of these moves. We need simple and something that works. I think in Stuart we've found it. You can see the evidence in front of your very eyes. Either listen and adapt. Or move on
I think the problem/opportunity in golf is that everyone fights different battles in a game that is already really difficult. There's also a lot of different ways to explain it which responds to different ppl.
Cowen talks gobbledegook.
did a bunch of rambling
Thanks for letting me know, much appreciated. Best wishes Stu
Cant you lessons guys get together and come up with the ideal swing vs tuck in one says don’t tuck in another says. If your not certified or PGA tour get off the channel.
Whether you’re PGA Tour or PGA accredited the depth of understanding will be vast across all individuals. It’s up to you who to listen to my friend. Best wishes Stu 😊
You obviously didn’t watch the whole video that Cowen and Maude made. He wasn’t saying tuck the elbow in , he was simply showing how to twist right forearm down while keeping wrist bent back to compress and lower ball flight. Do better
Will do Sir - thanks for sharing your thoughts, much appreciated ! 😊