God is one God. God is a spirit. The oneness of God Acts 2:38 Praise the lord for the holy ghost a renewing of the holy ghost pray threw Brothers and sisters 🔥🙌🏽
I remember being the music pastor in a UPC church and though we were singing the song, "He That Believeth," taken straight from Scripture, but the pastor told us that we had to change the lyrics to: "He that believeth that the Father IS the Son." So much for not changing the the Word of God. I'm not criticizing, just making a mental note. I am ordained PCAF and raised in the African American Apostolic tradition, but attended UPC college and subsequently worked for several years in the UPC.
Pretty easy to understand if you don't "think about theology" and don't consider what others think about it and just read the scripture: "For *there is one God,* and one mediator between God and men, *the man* Christ Jesus" 1 Timothy 2:5
I'm sorry you believe it has helped you because Oneness Jesus only is a false doctrine. The apostles and early church fathers never taught that Jesus is the one name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and so should perform all religious activities in that one name.
@@paulmc2162 Hi. What would help is if you were able to answer the Oneness explanation for the following scriptures: Luke 9:48 "whoever welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me". John 8:42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but HE sent ME." John 16:13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come". If the Holy Spirit is God and only speaks what he hears, who is the other entity who has authority and to whom he listens? John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You BEFORE the world was." 1 Tim 2:5 "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.". A mediator is a middle person. Either Jesus is God or just a man. Rev 3:21 "To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.". The Son sat WITH his Father. Also Mark 16:19 taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. IF no Trinity by whom was Jesus taken up by ie. what power and will was working on God (Jesus) to take him? The answer is God, whom he sat next to. When Stephen was being stoned he saw (Acts 7:55) looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, AND Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
"For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you" (1 Corinthians 11:19). Christ Jesus the Almighty, Your continued mercy & guidance to those of us who really & truly want only what is true!
We may have differences that we can just laugh about and not contend for our own positions for the sake of the unity of the brethren, but you’re talking about some differences that are divides between truth and false doctrine. Maybe, it’s just a pet peeve of mine; but what’s on your church sign can just about reveal one’s side of the divide.
I understand if you don’t feel comfortable sharing the name of the Bible college you referenced, but I’m interested to know which one it is. (Is the doctrine you mentioned like the light doctrine?) I’ve got kids that want to go to Bible college when their old enough, and I want to guide them toward the most doctrinally sound. I really like accreditation, but not enough to sacrifice truth (if that’s what it would require).
Bro Waldron taught (and teaches) at IBC. Wilson University (in Sacramento with online classes with bachelor and master degrees) is a accredited Apostolic Bible College started by Nathaniel Wilson, and I want to say Urshan is too, but I am not 100% positive about that
Michael G. Smith Thank you! Yessir, I’m familiar with those schools. We’ve got young people in our church at IBC or with plans to go there. I’ve liked what I’ve seen about Wilson, so far; but I don’t foresee my kids going there. They are interested in Urshan, right now. It seems like it should be a safe option, but I don’t want to just blindly direct my kids. I’ve actually encouraged them toward Urshan, but I just want to make sure it’s the best direction for them.
@@DelbertTritsch I understand. Although Bro Waldron has been a mentor and big influence, I still consider myself as Independent Apostolic...possibly because I entered the Truth in Independent Apostolic churches.
Urshan is not currently the accredited for associates and bachelor degrees. Due to a different accrediting agency, they are for masters degrees. Any UPCI Bible College degree can transfer into Urshan’s accredited masters program.
Can you do an in-depth video [if you havnt already] or link me to literature to explain being a oneness pentecostal and still believing in Jesus having a glorified body. Its confusing, and I believe in oneness but struggle with how to view Jesus in his current task of intercession or being our high priest or sitting on the thrown of David or any of these things....
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I sent you an email from your contact page on your church website. I have looked for more information on this but I cant seem to find what video your referring to. This is a serious inquiry, not me trying to open a dialogue to fight about it. I am genuinely looking for an answer to better understand.
@@dr.k.t.varughese3151 @Dr.K.T. Varughese the Father is Spirit John 4:24, Who is the Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of Christ Romans 8:9-10. The spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:3) is not a trinity but is the antichrist himself. How can you be 1 with the Father as Jesus was? His Spirit is in your spirit and your spirit is in His Spirit. Jesus was born, conceived by the Father He was One with the Father from conception. "We were born again" by the same Spirit so we are now 1 with Them and Them being the spirit of the Man Christ Jesus and the Spirit of God who is the Father for they were 1. Jesus was the Firstborn of many brethren for we shall be like Him. Us in Christ (in Spirit) and Christ in God (by Spirit). I did not give all the Scripture references as I trust you are familiar with them.
@@sumthinfresh Romans 8:9-10. Can you tell me, if u know any one pastor, who is not in flesh? If so, I wish to learn about their work. if a Pastor boasts of having received Jesus according to 1John 4:3, is he not fake according to John 14 15? If they are not in flesh how can they teach how to obey the teachings of Jesus according to Mathew 28 20? In short, doesnt the work of today's Pastors result in Mathew 23 15? Because, whoever I listen to seems to be an Antichrist in 1 John 4:3 when I read with the above verses. Do you agree?
God the Father became his own Son. There never has been a trinity & there never will be a trinity. The Son is the manifestation or personification of God the Father in a human body. God was manifest in the likeness of the flesh, however not the exactness. His Spirit and Soul was God, his body was human. The limitations of Christ in the NT are self imposed.
Incorrect. "The Father in me does the works" John 14:10. The Father who is Spirit was 1 with the spirit of a man who is called Christ. Pour water into water then tell me which one is water.
Are there oneness apostolic Pentecostals that believe in the flat earth? I am one. I graduated from a non-denominational charismatic college of ministry training after four years of study. I then moved across the country to Florida where I first encountered oneness apostolic Pentecostalism and proceeded to spend another three years adding to my theological education. It was later I became aware of belief in the flat earth and although like most I laughed alot at first I spent three years studying biblical flat earth and geocentric science. Although the apostolic Pentecostal church fellowship I attend does not believe in the flat earth I have spoken with and met a number of pastors from other denominations that do believe in a biblical flat earth. I have read numerous books on the subject as well as learned more about heliocentric theoretical cosmology than I ever learned in college where I did study physics and engineering in the school of Architecture. So with all that said are there any flat earth apostolic Pentecostal believers? Write below if you would like to dialog I have much to share.
@@ChristisSaviour that same passage says knowledge will pass away. Do you still have knowledge? When that which is perfect shall come means Jesus manifesting and transforming our lowly bodies into the image of His glorious body. Until that happens tongues, prophecy and knowledge remain
I will not believe an untruth. And your constant misinformation and illogical presentations convinces me more and more of the truth. If your presentations are the best, then they’re helping Oneness way more than trinitarianism.
One God the Father , and the Man Yahawash'a Ha'Mashiach is true Oneness according to the Holy Scriptures. The Holy Spirit is God Almighty , and the Son of God is a true genuine Man.
There are more Oneness Pentecostals outside the UPCI than there are in it. For example, the Church of God in Ireland. The Church of God in aIreland believes the Oneness doctrine and baptises in Jesus’ Name. It also is Calvinist and believes in soul sleep and annihilation of the wicked dead. It believes eternity for the believer will be spent on a restored earth, not in heaven. The Church maintains good relations with the UPCI despite such obvious difference in doctrine.
My take away from your comment is just to be scriptural first, last and everything in between when forming doctrine. I've known "Calvinists" who, when they simply started obeying the scriptures as they are written, became very "non"-Calvinist in so much of their practices, with this being true of every major 'Ism' on the Catholic market. Yes, living this life in the flesh by the faith of the Son of God apart from the man-made "extra" scriptural labels is far more work, but it's the truth of Acts 17:11 lived out.
I agree he had complete human nature (the man Christ Jesus), and not just a shell. Having a human spirit though is not in scriptural, in my opinion. I know several well known preachers do say he had a human spirit. I see some problems with that in eternity, only one throne in heaven. He was definitely God in the flesh (in the Son). Don't see many preachers emphasizing he had a human spirit behind the pulpit at all. Wonder why? God bless.
@@eflint1 I absolutely agree, it is Jesus' Spirit we receive. Also called the Comforter (John 14:16), the Spirit of truth (John 14:17). The Comforter, Spirit of truth, is the Holy Ghost (John 14:26). The Holy Ghost is God (Mat. 1:18, 20). I think we pretty much would agree that when we receive the Holy Ghost it's one Spirit we receive and not two, especially not a human spirit.
Hebrews 2:17 " In all things He had to be made like His brethren". You and I are spirit, soul, and body so yes He, the Son, had the spirit of a man yet was 1 from conception with the Spirit of His Father. This is how He could say if you have seen me you have seen the Father. One in Spirit. He from conception and we from above through His Baptism.
29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: FOR HE WAS BEFORE ME. 31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. 35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples; 36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God! (John 1:29-36, KJV) also see John 17 and why would Jesus pray to Himself in Third person? He's also already been manifested several times to Israel in the OT.
Thanks for informing me that even within op. That they too also have different jesus's and that they are just as discombobulated as any other christian cult. 🤔🧐💯
Ironically the word "bible" is another non-biblical term...yet we know it exists. Some terms have come about after the revelation of Gods word and who he is...it doesn't make them any less relevant or even biblical.
Why? Greek Philosophy? Please get a Bible, and objectively read Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9-11, and Colossians 2:8-10. Not reading it trying to twist your way out of the obvious meaning. But what does God say thru Scripture.
That is where the concept originated that the Father could not incarnate. The monotheistic Jews knew Son of God language meant Jehovah/Father in Flesh. Plato’s philosophy was very deistic, and could not accommodate the First Cause in the world.
I do respectfully disagree with you. I use the term Godhead, the Godhead is throughout the entire Bible. God said ," Let us make man in our image" notice the us and our in that statement. The tower of Babel, God said, " let us go down and confuse their tongues". Notice the Scripture says "let us". Jesus Christ was fully God and fully man, hence the Son of God, the Son of Man. Acts 2:38- baptise in Jesus name, who was Peter speaking to in this verse? He was speaking to the Jews who said crucify Jesus. And in those days to say in the name of, meant in the authority of. So baptise in the authority of Jesus. And Jesus gave the command to His disciple's to baptise in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I could go on and on. There is just to much evidence in the Godhead, the triune Godhead for me not to believe it as truth. However, I do love you, I love your videos and Bible reviews, I agree to disagree with you. One day it will all be revealed to us. That's why I stick with Christ Crucified brother. Just preach Jesus, until Jesus comes again! Amen! Godbless!
So that's more evidence that Oneness is NOT the Faith that was once and for all entrusted to the Saints (Jude 3). 1 Cor 1:10-12 " I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought." John 17:23 "I in them and you in me - so that they may be brought to complete unity." Phil 1:28 "stand firm in the one Spirit, striving together as one for the faith of the gospel 28 without being frightened in any way by those who oppose you. This is a sign to them that they will be destroyed, but that you will be saved - and that by God. 29 For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him." Elohim indicates a unity and diversity within the nature of God. This unity and diversity is revealed in Scripture as the doctrine of the Trinity. You just don't see it because you do not see the truth of God revealed in the New Testament.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Those scriptures support the idea of differences between bretheren that do not undermine the faith that was once for all entrusted to the Saints. But the apostles never taught that Jesus is the one name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and so should perform all religious activities in that one name. On that point alone you do not teach that which was once and for all delivered.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa it’s a group in China started 100 so years ago they are about 5 million also the apostlic orthodox church baptized babies in Jesus name it’s I think one church by a fella who is a bishop . He is oneness though he is odd though holds real presence and is amil like the church in China actually.
The Jesus Of the Bible is the eternal son of God . He is not the father or the Holy Ghost. You know just as well as I do, Jesus is not the father. No Christian ever believed that before 1914
I think I have to disagree on the godhead about every Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal not having one godhead view we do it's Jesus. I've been in this way right at 50 years and never heard of anyone not say Jesus is God. Maybe it's a southern thing with a lot of ignorance and uneducated snake handlers, generally folks from Georgia Alabama Mississippi. They're not like the educated folks up in Indiana.
I’ll tell you I’ve been shocked over the years when UPCI preachers begin to explain Jesus, and they begin to have quite a few different nuances. Like the Son ceased to exist used to be a big one in the 1980s. But there’s so many more that I’ve personally heard over the years. Even the argument was Jesus passable or impassible.
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Thanks Steve. It's so easy for someone online to get overwhelmed do to so much different information online.
Really informative video, thanks for posting.
love your videos Pastor, bless you sir
Thanks!
God is one God. God is a spirit. The oneness of God
Acts 2:38
Praise the lord for the holy ghost a renewing of the holy ghost pray threw
Brothers and sisters 🔥🙌🏽
I remember being the music pastor in a UPC church and though we were singing the song, "He That Believeth," taken straight from Scripture, but the pastor told us that we had to change the lyrics to: "He that believeth that the Father IS the Son." So much for not changing the the Word of God. I'm not criticizing, just making a mental note. I am ordained PCAF and raised in the African American Apostolic tradition, but attended UPC college and subsequently worked for several years in the UPC.
Wow!
Pretty easy to understand if you don't "think about theology" and don't consider what others think about it and just read the scripture: "For *there is one God,* and one mediator between God and men, *the man* Christ Jesus" 1 Timothy 2:5
I'm glad I heard this. It has helped me understand some things I wish I had known decades ago.
I'm sorry you believe it has helped you because Oneness Jesus only is a false doctrine. The apostles and early church fathers never taught that Jesus is the one name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and so should perform all religious activities in that one name.
@@ChristisSaviour If you have any questions about why I believe Jesus is the Father then I would be happy to answer them.
@@paulmc2162 Hi. What would help is if you were able to answer the Oneness explanation for the following scriptures:
Luke 9:48 "whoever welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me".
John 8:42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but HE sent ME."
John 16:13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come".
If the Holy Spirit is God and only speaks what he hears, who is the other entity who has authority and to whom he listens?
John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You BEFORE the world was."
1 Tim 2:5 "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.". A mediator is a middle person. Either Jesus is God or just a man.
Rev 3:21 "To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.". The Son sat WITH his Father.
Also Mark 16:19 taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. IF no Trinity by whom was Jesus taken up by ie. what power and will was working on God (Jesus) to take him? The answer is God, whom he sat next to.
When Stephen was being stoned he saw (Acts 7:55) looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, AND Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
@@ChristisSaviour Okay. I will reply when I have some time. ASAP!
I still intend to reply to this. I've just been very busy with other things. I'll be busy until the Nov. 1st.
"For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you" (1 Corinthians 11:19).
Christ Jesus the Almighty, Your continued mercy & guidance to those of us who really & truly want only what is true!
Amen
We may have differences that we can just laugh about and not contend for our own positions for the sake of the unity of the brethren, but you’re talking about some differences that are divides between truth and false doctrine. Maybe, it’s just a pet peeve of mine; but what’s on your church sign can just about reveal one’s side of the divide.
I understand if you don’t feel comfortable sharing the name of the Bible college you referenced, but I’m interested to know which one it is. (Is the doctrine you mentioned like the light doctrine?) I’ve got kids that want to go to Bible college when their old enough, and I want to guide them toward the most doctrinally sound. I really like accreditation, but not enough to sacrifice truth (if that’s what it would require).
Bro Waldron taught (and teaches) at IBC. Wilson University (in Sacramento with online classes with bachelor and master degrees) is a accredited Apostolic Bible College started by Nathaniel Wilson, and I want to say Urshan is too, but I am not 100% positive about that
Michael G. Smith Thank you! Yessir, I’m familiar with those schools. We’ve got young people in our church at IBC or with plans to go there. I’ve liked what I’ve seen about Wilson, so far; but I don’t foresee my kids going there. They are interested in Urshan, right now. It seems like it should be a safe option, but I don’t want to just blindly direct my kids. I’ve actually encouraged them toward Urshan, but I just want to make sure it’s the best direction for them.
Michael G. Smith Urshan’s regional accreditation is a big reason I’ve favored them. And their association with the UPCI has been a plus, too.
@@DelbertTritsch I understand. Although Bro Waldron has been a mentor and big influence, I still consider myself as Independent Apostolic...possibly because I entered the Truth in Independent Apostolic churches.
Urshan is not currently the accredited for associates and bachelor degrees. Due to a different accrediting agency, they are for masters degrees. Any UPCI Bible College degree can transfer into Urshan’s accredited masters program.
Can you do an in-depth video [if you havnt already] or link me to literature to explain being a oneness pentecostal and still believing in Jesus having a glorified body. Its confusing, and I believe in oneness but struggle with how to view Jesus in his current task of intercession or being our high priest or sitting on the thrown of David or any of these things....
It’s on the channel, I just don’t have time to find it. Conn from Kansas books for starters. God bless!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I sent you an email from your contact page on your church website. I have looked for more information on this but I cant seem to find what video your referring to. This is a serious inquiry, not me trying to open a dialogue to fight about it. I am genuinely looking for an answer to better understand.
Do you hold to the coequality of the Persons of the godhead
Does upci preach laying on of hands? Acts 8.17, 19.6
Yes
your breakdown of topics are really relevant.
What do you mean from the mention of Trinity by Jesus in Mathew 28 19
28:19? I’d have to rewatch that.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Yes, 28:19, kindly give your interpretations against the oneness doctrine.
@@dr.k.t.varughese3151 @Dr.K.T. Varughese the Father is Spirit John 4:24, Who is the Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of Christ Romans 8:9-10. The spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:3) is not a trinity but is the antichrist himself. How can you be 1 with the Father as Jesus was? His Spirit is in your spirit and your spirit is in His Spirit. Jesus was born, conceived by the Father He was One with the Father from conception. "We were born again" by the same Spirit so we are now 1 with Them and Them being the spirit of the Man Christ Jesus and the Spirit of God who is the Father for they were 1. Jesus was the Firstborn of many brethren for we shall be like Him. Us in Christ (in Spirit) and Christ in God (by Spirit). I did not give all the Scripture references as I trust you are familiar with them.
@@sumthinfresh Romans 8:9-10. Can you tell me, if u know any one pastor, who is not in flesh? If so, I wish to learn about their work. if a Pastor boasts of having received Jesus according to 1John 4:3, is he not fake according to John 14 15? If they are not in flesh how can they teach how to obey the teachings of Jesus according to Mathew 28 20? In short, doesnt the work of today's Pastors result in Mathew 23 15? Because, whoever I listen to seems to be an Antichrist in 1 John 4:3 when I read with the above verses. Do you agree?
There are also some oneness pentecostals who believe that william m branham was a prophet. My younger sister was in such a william m branham church.
Are their any oneness Pentecostals who are trinitarian?
God the Father became his own Son. There never has been a trinity & there never will be a trinity. The Son is the manifestation or personification of God the Father in a human body. God was manifest in the likeness of the flesh, however not the exactness. His Spirit and Soul was God, his body was human. The limitations of Christ in the NT are self imposed.
Incorrect. "The Father in me does the works" John 14:10. The Father who is Spirit was 1 with the spirit of a man who is called Christ. Pour water into water then tell me which one is water.
Are there oneness apostolic Pentecostals that believe in the flat earth? I am one. I graduated from a non-denominational charismatic college of ministry training after four years of study. I then moved across the country to Florida where I first encountered oneness apostolic Pentecostalism and proceeded to spend another three years adding to my theological education. It was later I became aware of belief in the flat earth and although like most I laughed alot at first I spent three years studying biblical flat earth and geocentric science. Although the apostolic Pentecostal church fellowship I attend does not believe in the flat earth I have spoken with and met a number of pastors from other denominations that do believe in a biblical flat earth. I have read numerous books on the subject as well as learned more about heliocentric theoretical cosmology than I ever learned in college where I did study physics and engineering in the school of Architecture. So with all that said are there any flat earth apostolic Pentecostal believers? Write below if you would like to dialog I have much to share.
Do you speak in tongues or prophecy'?
Yes
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa By what spirit are you able to do so if Paul says prophecies will be done away and tongues will cease?
@@ChristisSaviour that same passage says knowledge will pass away. Do you still have knowledge? When that which is perfect shall come means Jesus manifesting and transforming our lowly bodies into the image of His glorious body. Until that happens tongues, prophecy and knowledge remain
How can I convince you of the trinity?
I will not believe an untruth. And your constant misinformation and illogical presentations convinces me more and more of the truth. If your presentations are the best, then they’re helping Oneness way more than trinitarianism.
New Life Of Albany Ga. how are my presentation bad
It is historically inaccurate and illogical. I love you though. God bless you!
@Joseph Jones I'd love to have Bible Study and Prayer with you
Eric Lane sure when
How does Col 2:9 prove oneness
Who does Jesus intercede to?
His humanity praying to the Father. Even Athanasius the so called father of trinitarian Doctrine said that.
New Life Of Albany Ga. ok
One God the Father , and the Man Yahawash'a Ha'Mashiach is true Oneness according to the Holy Scriptures. The Holy Spirit is God Almighty , and the Son of God is a true genuine Man.
And we are 1 with Him John 17. All One. His Spirit in us, our spirit in Him.
How long have you been oneness
35 years.
New Life Of Albany Ga. what got you into it
The truth
New Life Of Albany Ga. what caused you to deny the Holy Trinity
Couldn’t find it in Scripture.
Is saying,"I hate the Holygh**", blaspheming His Spirit?
Pastor, what is blasphemy of the Holyghost?
I’ve done a video on that you may want to watch. God bless!
There are more Oneness Pentecostals outside the UPCI than there are in it. For example, the Church of God in Ireland. The Church of God in aIreland believes the Oneness doctrine and baptises in Jesus’ Name. It also is Calvinist and believes in soul sleep and annihilation of the wicked dead. It believes eternity for the believer will be spent on a restored earth, not in heaven. The Church maintains good relations with the UPCI despite such obvious difference in doctrine.
My take away from your comment is just to be scriptural first, last and everything in between when forming doctrine. I've known "Calvinists" who, when they simply started obeying the scriptures as they are written, became very "non"-Calvinist in so much of their practices, with this being true of every major 'Ism' on the Catholic market. Yes, living this life in the flesh by the faith of the Son of God apart from the man-made "extra" scriptural labels is far more work, but it's the truth of Acts 17:11 lived out.
I know a Calvinist oneness Pentecostal who holds to an eternal Son
I agree he had complete human nature (the man Christ Jesus), and not just a shell. Having a human spirit though is not in scriptural, in my opinion. I know several well known preachers do say he had a human spirit. I see some problems with that in eternity, only one throne in heaven. He was definitely God in the flesh (in the Son). Don't see many preachers emphasizing he had a human spirit behind the pulpit at all. Wonder why? God bless.
I do. It is essential to oneness theology, in my opinion. How else could God have the Spirit of his SON into our hearts crying "Abba, Father !"?
@@eflint1 I absolutely agree, it is Jesus' Spirit we receive. Also called the Comforter (John 14:16), the Spirit of truth (John 14:17). The Comforter, Spirit of truth, is the Holy Ghost (John 14:26). The Holy Ghost is God (Mat. 1:18, 20). I think we pretty much would agree that when we receive the Holy Ghost it's one Spirit we receive and not two, especially not a human spirit.
Hebrews 2:17 " In all things He had to be made like His brethren". You and I are spirit, soul, and body so yes He, the Son, had the spirit of a man yet was 1 from conception with the Spirit of His Father. This is how He could say if you have seen me you have seen the Father. One in Spirit. He from conception and we from above through His Baptism.
29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: FOR HE WAS BEFORE ME. 31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. 35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples; 36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God! (John 1:29-36, KJV) also see John 17 and why would Jesus pray to Himself in Third person? He's also already been manifested several times to Israel in the OT.
Thanks for informing me that even within op. That they too also have different jesus's and that they are just as discombobulated as any other christian cult. 🤔🧐💯
Haha!
What do you mean by Christian cult?
Like How to define the Son
I think I see why eternal generation of the son is contradictory
Amen!
New Life Of Albany Ga. but I still believe in an eternal son
@@josephjones4207 😐
Yeah like is the Son God or just a empowered man
Many other nuances. That certainly seems to be your candy stick.
Ironically the word "bible" is another non-biblical term...yet we know it exists. Some terms have come about after the revelation of Gods word and who he is...it doesn't make them any less relevant or even biblical.
Just as "rapture" isn't
But I have trouble accepting that the father came in the flesh
Why? Greek Philosophy? Please get a Bible, and objectively read Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9-11, and Colossians 2:8-10. Not reading it trying to twist your way out of the obvious meaning. But what does God say thru Scripture.
New Life Of Albany Ga. what do you mean Greek philosophy
New Life Of Albany Ga. are you mad at me
That is where the concept originated that the Father could not incarnate. The monotheistic Jews knew Son of God language meant Jehovah/Father in Flesh. Plato’s philosophy was very deistic, and could not accommodate the First Cause in the world.
New Life Of Albany Ga. interesting
I do respectfully disagree with you. I use the term Godhead, the Godhead is throughout the entire Bible. God said ," Let us make man in our image" notice the us and our in that statement. The tower of Babel, God said, " let us go down and confuse their tongues". Notice the Scripture says "let us". Jesus Christ was fully God and fully man, hence the Son of God, the Son of Man. Acts 2:38- baptise in Jesus name, who was Peter speaking to in this verse? He was speaking to the Jews who said crucify Jesus. And in those days to say in the name of, meant in the authority of. So baptise in the authority of Jesus. And Jesus gave the command to His disciple's to baptise in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I could go on and on. There is just to much evidence in the Godhead, the triune Godhead for me not to believe it as truth. However, I do love you, I love your videos and Bible reviews, I agree to disagree with you. One day it will all be revealed to us. That's why I stick with Christ Crucified brother. Just preach Jesus, until Jesus comes again! Amen! Godbless!
So that's more evidence that Oneness is NOT the Faith that was once and for all entrusted to the Saints (Jude 3).
1 Cor 1:10-12 " I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought."
John 17:23 "I in them and you in me - so that they may be brought to complete unity."
Phil 1:28 "stand firm in the one Spirit, striving together as one for the faith of the gospel 28 without being frightened in any way by those who oppose you. This is a sign to them that they will be destroyed, but that you will be saved - and that by God. 29 For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him."
Elohim indicates a unity and diversity within the nature of God. This unity and diversity is revealed in Scripture as the doctrine of the Trinity. You just don't see it because you do not see the truth of God revealed in the New Testament.
Read Romans 14. See Paul’s conflicts with Peter and Barnabas. Read Acts 21. You’re proving my point my friend. God bless!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Those scriptures support the idea of differences between bretheren that do not undermine the faith that was once for all entrusted to the Saints. But the apostles never taught that Jesus is the one name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and so should perform all religious activities in that one name. On that point alone you do not teach that which was once and for all delivered.
I’m sorry
Same with Southern Baptists & Fundamental Independent Baptists, so much differences due to ignorance and/or intentional dumbing down by the Pastors
Interesting
3 SEPARATE persons? Modalist Pentecostals love to make Trinitarian caricatures like separate persons or 3 gods.
Many trinitarians over the years have used the term separate distinct persons.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa who?
@@LionPebsX every trinitarian who tries to use Gen 1:26 as proof text of a trinity.
Oh and Nestorianism
Sequential is easy to obliterate
Are you “oneness”
Yes
New Life Of Albany Ga. what are your options on ruckman and his view of the “trinity”
No we have Jesus as flesh and deity in heaven
Some oneness Pentecostals baptize infants for salvation .
Interesting
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa it’s a group in China started 100 so years ago they are about 5 million also the apostlic orthodox church baptized babies in Jesus name it’s I think one church by a fella who is a bishop . He is oneness though he is odd though holds real presence and is amil like the church in China actually.
The Jesus Of the Bible is the eternal son of God . He is not the father or the Holy Ghost. You know just as well as I do, Jesus is not the father. No Christian ever believed that before 1914
Haha! What was Praxeuas about in 200 ad? What horrible videos or books are you getting all of this incorrect information from?
New Life Of Albany Ga. oh my research
New Life Of Albany Ga. I take that back my bad
I think I have to disagree on the godhead about every Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal not having one godhead view we do it's Jesus. I've been in this way right at 50 years and never heard of anyone not say Jesus is God. Maybe it's a southern thing with a lot of ignorance and uneducated snake handlers, generally folks from Georgia Alabama Mississippi. They're not like the educated folks up in Indiana.
I’ll tell you I’ve been shocked over the years when UPCI preachers begin to explain Jesus, and they begin to have quite a few different nuances. Like the Son ceased to exist used to be a big one in the 1980s. But there’s so many more that I’ve personally heard over the years. Even the argument was Jesus passable or impassible.
Stop using Isa 9:6 to prove Jesus is the Father. That is horrible exegesis
No, it is truthful exegesis. What pathetic video did you watch? Walter martins debunked exegesis?
New Life Of Albany Ga. what does Walter Martin have to do with it
He's was a trinitarian theologian and famous 'heresy hunter.'
Oneness are anti credal
Pro-Bible. You are pro extra biblical revelation and teach that God Decieved the Old Testament saints into believing He was 1 instead of 3.
Actually, we are closer to the original Nicaean Creed than most modern trinitarians are.
eflint1 how
New Life Of Albany Ga. yes, but creeds are important too. For they summarize the gospel which is salvation
New Life Of Albany Ga. and actually oneness is not pro-Bible because some verses of scripture are not taken seriously in oneness