Looks like a nice hiding place. Long ago it was. It probably was not so wet. Unless I saw it myself, I don't know how dry the ground is. It seems like a place native Americans would use, many made thier homes by rivers and creeks. I remember my great grandparents had a house not far from a creek. They kept a lot of the old ways hunting fishing They always lived by woods. I guess they didn't feel safe was on guard, if felt threaten they could go deep in the woods. I admired thier courage, I remember my mom maternal grandfather, he taught us a lot about herbs, natural meds. Grew a lot of what they ate ,hunted and fished. He was already in his 70s by time I was born but he had a lot knowledge, his sight became cloudy, cataracts were not talked about. He could see, knew well where things was, had us digging up roots, from certain trees, we'd clean them, boil them, strain the water through a clean cloth, he would drink the liquid. He said the Berry root had just as much vitamins and health benefits as the berries themselves . My. Mom said all her life she never knew him to be sick. Just before he got in his 80s he just went down health wise and he passed. There was natives on both sides of my moms family, her mother and father. I'm greatful to have known them and I still practice herbal medicine. I'm doing research, following my moms mother family.thier journey from one town and county to where the settled and passed. I hope to publish a book, if not for but just my family to have the information. Thank God I asked questions and learned a lot You are never to young to learn. I keep old obituaries. They have come in handy. Love,respect and positivity always. Neita.✌🖖🕯🙌🦋🌠🌻💕✨⚡🙏🤗🙂👋👣.
Thanks for posting this video. David Lewis was my 4th great uncle. Even though I grew up in PA, I never knew about his history until I left the state, so I've never been here. It's a crying shame how people have trashed such a historic site!
At least there's one landmark of my youth that hasn't been torn down and redeveloped. I grew up about half a mile from Cave Hill. Back then in the middle 60s there was little graffiti, but still the same mud. It sure looks different with real lighting. We used to go in with an Eveready flashlight in each hand. (one of which which would usually croak before we got 30 feet in) I had a map of Carlisle, and swore I had plotted the course of the cave past the collapsed section. I knew it was right in our backyard, and I spent weeks digging a four-foot hole that was all limestone, and man, how I wanted some dynamite to blast a new entranceway into the cave. Then we moved before I could prove that I had discovered the lost passages of the Cave Hill Cave.
A few years ago my legs were injured. So I can only enjoy hiking and exploring with videos that are posted. Your videos help me enjoy. My 65" LED TV is nice to watch them on too!
I grew up playing in and around that cave. Local stories say it used to go to the Carlisle army barracks at one time. Before the dam was put in and filled it with silt. Enjoyed your video. Keep on keeping on.
Very cool..I just recently discovered this cave. . I live in Carlisle. I was by myself and was too chicken to go in.. didn't have a flashlight, other than my cell phone. I definitely want to go back and explore it soon! Thanks for sharing !
This was so INTERESTING. I have a book I bought from the Luzerne County Historical Society that contains stories from old newspaper articles and it contains two articles about David Lewis and the copyright is 1924, so the stories are old. The stories say that David married the daughter of one of the the jailers he was in for a short time, and he and his gang did hide loot in the caves. He would also counterfeit money and take it to Vermont and say he got it from banks in Philadelphia and other PA towns. He really loved his wife and was devastated when she died, and he also loved his mother and would visit her. He also had friends that really liked him and even helped him with food and other supplies. He had his charms even though he was a robber. So interesting to see this cave. Thanks.
FYI the cave goes all the way under the Carlisle Army barrics where it is cut off. I have been following Lewis for a while now, found several of his other caves. Have fun man, lots of cool stuff about Lewis...
I wonder if this cave is part of a larger system...the Nuville Quadrangle...I think it's called. Imagine four hands with their fingers spread....all just barely touching finger tips. I heard some cavers went to the furthest point in a Carlisle cave to where the cave petered down to a small hole. They dug the mud out and discovered the linking tunnel to one of the four of the Quadrangle...the Carnegie in Shippensburg!! One of Pa.s largest caves!! Open to public. While living in Ship. I got interested in the Carnegie cave near the 81 . It's Hugh!!!.Takes hours to explore.
Now that’s a cave They are so fascinating. I’ve heard stories about Lewis the robber. My father in law said the ole boy would rob the stage coaches in the area and hide the loot in caves. . Don’t know how he knew this but he acted like Lewis and he were best friends ! This cave is huge I’m surprised there aren’t any stalagmites. Or stalactites inside. Well cliff the adventure was fun. Keep making your videos and your fans Will. Keep watching me included.
Glad to see you upgraded your lights! Interesting and intriguing that the cave might continue past the “end” you showed but isn’t accessible due to the turnpike construction collapsing it.
The Wandering Woodsman I subscribed to your channel today. I really like what you do on here. I live in a small town in Centre county and except for a couple years ive lived here my whole life. I also enjoy doing what you do during the spring & summer but its always kind of been a challenge for me to find things other than well known places to explore. You've really showed me a lot of areas that i can now eventually check out. But how have you learned about all the hidden away gems you know about? Cause around here either there isn't anything or i need better resources to find them. I'm about 20 minutes away from State College (PSU) . If you know of anything closer my way I'd appreciate any help. Ever heard of the cave system named J4 ? Thats the coolest thing thats close to me im aware of. It's by Pleasant Gap I believe. Not sure if its still accessible these days, but J4 is the biggest and best cave in PA and please, if given the opportunity to go here, u must! Definitely need a good flashlight and a good friend tho cause it can be very dangerous in there. There are some videos on here and info online about J4 if its something u want to lean about.
wow, cant believe you have to work later, I lose all energy to do anything if I know I have to go to work that night, wish I had your positive outlook!
Back in Lewis's day the creek wasnt as high as it is now, because there wasnt a dam there in his time. It would have been a much dryer cave then. Everytime it floods it fills the cave.
Up the old tumbling run trail. There is purple paint and no trespassing signs now. I been going up there for over 20 years. I always thought that land was state game lands
My research of another part of the nearby countryside yielded information which indicated Lewis and a cousin had at one time tried to rob the cousins relative who ran a sawmill, only to end up killing the man during the robbery and then they hid in the famed "Lewis Rocks" over near the tumbling run nature preserve. Don't know if it has any further story beyond that....
Wow the new light works great,did you get a CN216 Neewer,those kick butt? Thanks for giving us a look,if Im ever in the area Ill swing in here for sure!
that's the first place you could actually call a cave, the rest, are just rock shelters, that would keep the rain off and allow you to cook on a small fire or camping stove
Buddy I’m pretty sure that’s not the cave he hid out in. It’s on the top of a mountain. I been there. There is a trail that leads to the top of the mountain. Last time I went there was purple paint everywhere and no trespassing signs. Been going up there for over 20 years.
check out Letort springs, in Carlisle another cave is there, I was in it and found a period shell casing and a lantern. Any way that is a cave that he supposedly stasched gold in and people have found gold coins along the creek there. It was one of the places he was aprehended and dumped his gold and when he escaped from prison went back to get it and it had been flodded and washed it all away... cool story...
So the cave or hideout he had in Newville was blasted off the face of the mountain. However. Over there also is a Indian trail that was used. There was another dude that would protect the settlers out there and supposedly had a cave where the walls were scalps of indians.
@@kallenflannery-knight4740 I want to too. I need people to explore with and new places. It's only an old friend and me. I know a cave guide, but he's not free.
@@philipmccrackeniii4575 I’m in southern Franklin county and I need some people to gain some good knowledge from! Do you think your cave guide knows any in the county? I have a few local ones I want to go to sometime. And the town I live in has caverns running under us. But most entrances i know of, all are on private property( I would ask but I don’t know whose property it is) and It’s hard to find any information on it at all. I would definitely like to find entrances and get permission to property sometime.
Ok I caught something odd but awesome... Ok go to 13:08 an pause it then watch the bottom right there is a figure standing there once u shine the light on it it drops really fast right behind that rock turn on the bottom right... Play it in slow motion an watch it a few times from 13:05 an u will see the figures eye shine drop when the light catches him... Then I'm thinking what would be like probably 4 to 5 feet tall following him that quietly deep ina cave then I get to 13:34 and Bam it's laying on the ground on the left and it's a young Bigfoot!! People can say I'm crazy but watch the footage he caught a young Bigfoot which I would assume is where the Bigfoot lives following him!!
@hrb2OO921 just watch the timestamps and u will see the eyeshine drop so smooth and quick... And no not at all would this guy no.. he didn't even see the figure in the cave eyeshine
Although I enjoy all of your videos as an avid caver myself I is complete folly to enter a cave by oneself Always 3 light sources and always let someone know where you will be and when you are expected to return
With each vlog, one must see the tragedy of native people being forced off these lands and how it broke their hearts and minds. They had to miss the beautiful land they had grown to love...leaving all the beauty behind along with their traditions and heritage.
Looks like a nice hiding place. Long ago it was. It probably was not so wet. Unless I saw it myself, I don't know how dry the ground is. It seems like a place native Americans would use, many made thier homes by rivers and creeks. I remember my great grandparents had a house not far from a creek. They kept a lot of the old ways hunting fishing
They always lived by woods. I guess they didn't feel safe was on guard, if felt threaten they could go deep in the woods. I admired thier courage, I remember my mom maternal grandfather, he taught us a lot about herbs, natural meds. Grew a lot of what they ate ,hunted and fished. He was already in his 70s by time I was born but he had a lot knowledge, his sight became cloudy, cataracts were not talked about. He could see, knew well where things was, had us digging up roots, from certain trees, we'd clean them, boil them, strain the water through a clean cloth, he would drink the liquid. He said the Berry root had just as much vitamins and health benefits as the berries themselves . My. Mom said all her life she never knew him to be sick. Just before he got in his 80s he just went down health wise and he passed. There was natives on both sides of my moms family, her mother and father. I'm greatful to have known them and I still practice herbal medicine. I'm doing research, following my moms mother family.thier journey from one town and county to where the settled and passed. I hope to publish a book, if not for but just my family to have the information. Thank God I asked questions and learned a lot
You are never to young to learn. I keep old obituaries. They have come in handy. Love,respect and positivity always. Neita.✌🖖🕯🙌🦋🌠🌻💕✨⚡🙏🤗🙂👋👣.
Thanks for posting this video. David Lewis was my 4th great uncle. Even though I grew up in PA, I never knew about his history until I left the state, so I've never been here. It's a crying shame how people have trashed such a historic site!
I too am a descendant of this Lewis family.
@@scarlettsuggsbishop9574 You got a tree?
You got a tree?
At least there's one landmark of my youth that hasn't been torn down and redeveloped. I grew up about half a mile from Cave Hill. Back then in the middle 60s there was little graffiti, but still the same mud. It sure looks different with real lighting. We used to go in with an Eveready flashlight in each hand. (one of which which would usually croak before we got 30 feet in) I had a map of Carlisle, and swore I had plotted the course of the cave past the collapsed section. I knew it was right in our backyard, and I spent weeks digging a four-foot hole that was all limestone, and man, how I wanted some dynamite to blast a new entranceway into the cave. Then we moved before I could prove that I had discovered the lost passages of the Cave Hill Cave.
Nice natural cave. Thank you for taking us with you.
Thanks for watching
A few years ago my legs were injured. So I can only enjoy hiking and exploring with videos that are posted. Your videos help me enjoy. My 65" LED TV is nice to watch them on too!
You are one of my favorites on TH-cam! I love the history and the scenery you give! I hope you keep it up!
Head lamp and rubber boots ,your next birthday present .cool vid!
Really. Awesome cave with cool structure. Looks painful going at times!!!! Thanks for doing all work for us!☺
I live in Carlisle, very close to Cave Hill. Been there many times, but never went in the cave. Thanks for going in and making a video!
I grew up playing in and around that cave. Local stories say it used to go to the Carlisle army barracks at one time. Before the dam was put in and filled it with silt. Enjoyed your video.
Keep on keeping on.
lived in the area since 84...never heard of this...thanks for sharing
KAHN-uh-doh-GWINN-it Creek. 🙂 I live near Carlisle. I'm glad I came across this video. I've been wondering where this cave was. Thank you!
Hi, I'm new to your channel. Since I can't explore myself, I thank you for taking me on your adventures. Each one is wonderful.
Love the caves like that. I'd enjoy checking that out sometime.
Very cool..I just recently discovered this cave. . I live in Carlisle. I was by myself and was too chicken to go in.. didn't have a flashlight, other than my cell phone. I definitely want to go back and explore it soon! Thanks for sharing !
I WAS HOLDING MY BREATH FOR YOU. YOU SURE HAVE ALOT OF COURAGE THATS ALL I CAN SAY. GOOD JOB EXCELLENT FIND.
This was so INTERESTING. I have a book I bought from the Luzerne County Historical Society that contains stories from old newspaper articles and it contains two articles about David Lewis and the copyright is 1924, so the stories are old. The stories say that David married the daughter of one of the the jailers he was in for a short time, and he and his gang did hide loot in the caves. He would also counterfeit money and take it to Vermont and say he got it from banks in Philadelphia and other PA towns. He really loved his wife and was devastated when she died, and he also loved his mother and would visit her. He also had friends that really liked him and even helped him with food and other supplies. He had his charms even though he was a robber. So interesting to see this cave. Thanks.
Great video man, thank you.
FYI the cave goes all the way under the Carlisle Army barrics where it is cut off. I have been following Lewis for a while now, found several of his other caves. Have fun man, lots of cool stuff about Lewis...
Well, I looked up the history and he was a highway robber. Cool place and it floods for sure. Loved the video.
Very cool! Thanks
Sitting on the edge of my seat! Cool cave.
That would be an awesome place to metal detect, you know just in case he forgot where he put his treasure and it's still there. x
The new lights are great!
Thanks, I'm liking them
I bet very few go all the way through there. That was so cool!
It must have been lonely hiding in there.
You never let us down, always fascinating.
Lonely and DARK
That's really freakin' cool!!! It just kept going and going and going......
I wonder if this cave is part of a larger system...the Nuville Quadrangle...I think it's called. Imagine four hands with their fingers spread....all just barely touching finger tips. I heard some cavers went to the furthest point in a Carlisle cave to where the cave petered down to a small hole. They dug the mud out and discovered the linking tunnel to one of the four of the Quadrangle...the Carnegie in Shippensburg!! One of Pa.s largest caves!! Open to public. While living in Ship. I got interested in the Carnegie cave near the 81 . It's Hugh!!!.Takes hours to explore.
Now that’s a cave They are so fascinating. I’ve heard stories about Lewis the robber. My father in law said the ole boy would rob the stage coaches in the area and hide the loot in caves. . Don’t know how he knew this but he acted like Lewis and he were best friends ! This cave is huge I’m surprised there aren’t any stalagmites. Or stalactites inside. Well cliff the adventure was fun. Keep making your videos and your fans Will. Keep watching me included.
Cool cave explore.
Glad to see you upgraded your lights! Interesting and intriguing that the cave might continue past the “end” you showed but isn’t accessible due to the turnpike construction collapsing it.
I plan to go back this summer when things are drier to check it out
The Wandering Woodsman I subscribed to your channel today. I really like what you do on here. I live in a small town in Centre county and except for a couple years ive lived here my whole life. I also enjoy doing what you do during the spring & summer but its always kind of been a challenge for me to find things other than well known places to explore. You've really showed me a lot of areas that i can now eventually check out. But how have you learned about all the hidden away gems you know about? Cause around here either there isn't anything or i need better resources to find them. I'm about 20 minutes away from State College (PSU) . If you know of anything closer my way I'd appreciate any help. Ever heard of the cave system named J4 ? Thats the coolest thing thats close to me im aware of. It's by Pleasant Gap I believe. Not sure if its still accessible these days, but J4 is the biggest and best cave in PA and please, if given the opportunity to go here, u must! Definitely need a good flashlight and a good friend tho cause it can be very dangerous in there. There are some videos on here and info online about J4 if its something u want to lean about.
Great cave tour, but I'm surprised you went in that far by yourself.
That cave was formed by a under ground river.Ive been in some here in Northern Ca, we also have lava tubes. Like your shows.
wow, cant believe you have to work later, I lose all energy to do anything if I know I have to go to work that night, wish I had your positive outlook!
Back in Lewis's day the creek wasnt as high as it is now, because there wasnt a dam there in his time. It would have been a much dryer cave then. Everytime it floods it fills the cave.
You going in alone makes me nervous!
just going in makes me nervous.
Good vid
fascinating.
It goes back until the war college .
Well..used too..been in there pretty far myself..
Another one of his hideout caves is near Lewis rocks I know exactly where in Michaux it may be a different one than the one you mentioned in michaux
Up the old tumbling run trail. There is purple paint and no trespassing signs now. I been going up there for over 20 years. I always thought that land was state game lands
My research of another part of the nearby countryside yielded information which indicated Lewis and a cousin had at one time tried to rob the cousins relative who ran a sawmill, only to end up killing the man during the robbery and then they hid in the famed "Lewis Rocks" over near the tumbling run nature preserve. Don't know if it has any further story beyond that....
hoping to visit this spot soon
Wow the new light works great,did you get a CN216 Neewer,those kick butt?
Thanks for giving us a look,if Im ever in the area Ill swing in here for sure!
Yes, going to buy another one. They work great and don't cost a fortune
I really enjoyed the video, any animal signs ? I was watching for a cave bear ! Thank You !
Nice big cave.
There were rumors that there's a link to an opening in Carlisle that was part of the Underground Railway.
that's the first place you could actually call a cave, the rest, are just rock shelters, that would keep the rain off and allow you to cook on a small fire or camping stove
Yo I live right next to this place I love exploring there I'm planning on going back in soon. You know native americans used that cave.
Maybe " Snow Shoes" would work on that mud ??
nice cave, much better than the last one, that was way to tight...
Buddy I’m pretty sure that’s not the cave he hid out in. It’s on the top of a mountain. I been there. There is a trail that leads to the top of the mountain. Last time I went there was purple paint everywhere and no trespassing signs. Been going up there for over 20 years.
The Wandering Caveman!
Nice! Did you have to hunch over to walk in it?
Yes at the entrance
I don't think I'd stay thee because of flooding. What type of light did you get? I need one. By the way I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming.
neewer cn216
It keeps going...
check out Letort springs, in Carlisle another cave is there, I was in it and found a period shell casing and a lantern. Any way that is a cave that he supposedly stasched gold in and people have found gold coins along the creek there. It was one of the places he was aprehended and dumped his gold and when he escaped from prison went back to get it and it had been flodded and washed it all away... cool story...
I've been on letort springs many times, have never seen the cave. Mind shedding some light where I might find it?
Yea I kayak up and down the cono from west Pennsboro, to the Susquehanna. I know of a at least 10 caves but have never seen any along letort springs
So the cave or hideout he had in Newville was blasted off the face of the mountain. However. Over there also is a Indian trail that was used. There was another dude that would protect the settlers out there and supposedly had a cave where the walls were scalps of indians.
Dude u need an assistant.that was muckn muddn and hard on back!that was way more cave than i expected.
Looks like it was a low ceiling.... did you have to crouch at all?
Yes, quite a bit at times
Huh I should go there
160 led light?
216
After you went in for about a minute...was that dust or bugs floating around in the cave?
Probably just dust
The Wandering Woodsman Looked tight in there! Great video.
Died in Bellefonte, Pa. just up the road from me.
Do you think this was an underground river at one time?
It could have been
That cave has been flooded at times never enter this type of cave when there is rain in the forecast or even a couple days earlier
Can you hike with your shotgun for protection in PA?
PA is open carry so yes.
If you pause at 9:13 I think I see a bat clinging to the wall!
I GIVE YOU MUCH COURAGE TO DO WHAT YOU DID. THAT MUD WOULD COUNT ME OUT. I GREW UP OM DAIRY FARM WITH MUD. HAD ENOUGH OF IT.
The treasure still hasn’t been found?
Something tells me that treasure went to whiskey and women of ILL repute
Are you willing to team up with others with similar passions? I know a good cave near PennState.
I know this is an older comment but do you still explore and cave? I don’t have anyone I know that I can go coving with
@@kallenflannery-knight4740 I want to too. I need people to explore with and new places. It's only an old friend and me.
I know a cave guide, but he's not free.
@@philipmccrackeniii4575 I’m in southern Franklin county and I need some people to gain some good knowledge from! Do you think your cave guide knows any in the county? I have a few local ones I want to go to sometime. And the town I live in has caverns running under us. But most entrances i know of, all are on private property( I would ask but I don’t know whose property it is) and It’s hard to find any information on it at all. I would definitely like to find entrances and get permission to property sometime.
@@kallenflannery-knight4740 near Chambersburg or greencastle or
@@philipmccrackeniii4575 yes greencastle/waynesboro area
I wonder why the cave got so watm?
Ok I caught something odd but awesome... Ok go to 13:08 an pause it then watch the bottom right there is a figure standing there once u shine the light on it it drops really fast right behind that rock turn on the bottom right... Play it in slow motion an watch it a few times from 13:05 an u will see the figures eye shine drop when the light catches him... Then I'm thinking what would be like probably 4 to 5 feet tall following him that quietly deep ina cave then I get to 13:34 and Bam it's laying on the ground on the left and it's a young Bigfoot!! People can say I'm crazy but watch the footage he caught a young Bigfoot which I would assume is where the Bigfoot lives following him!!
@hrb2OO921 just watch the timestamps and u will see the eyeshine drop so smooth and quick... And no not at all would this guy no.. he didn't even see the figure in the cave eyeshine
@hrb2OO921 and how would he say something about it when he didn't even see it... C'mon now
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any sign of bats in that cave?
Not on this trip, but I went back several weeks later with some friends and we did find one bat.
Too bad there are so many jerks ruining a natural adventure. Great cave though...
the back room of the cave is devils den. i know the whole story. my father william jr. told me
There's a story? Can I hear it?
Although I enjoy all of your videos as an avid caver myself I is complete folly to enter a cave by oneself
Always 3 light sources and always let someone know where you will be and when you are expected to return
Im pretty sure the story about the woman and tax collector ( whatever) is a jesse and Frank James story..
Thats the same story they tell about Jessy James
Cliff you are very brave to be in this cave alone not knowing what you will run into. Always be careful!
With each vlog, one must see the tragedy of native people being forced off these lands and how it broke their hearts and minds. They had to miss the beautiful land they had grown to love...leaving all the beauty behind along with their traditions and heritage.
He died by the time he was 30 he had no later times
Watch out for needles and broken glass in this cave it’s a heroin hangout spot nowadays...stupid junkies ruin everything
Sure it ened? never really got a great look in there
Everybody goes there to smoke weed now lol
W.N.S ? Thanx
It sounds like a scream at 10:25
I HEARD THAT TOO! Probably haunted.
I heard it too and wondered if someone was yelling at the opening of the cave or something.
It’s a shame that people have to put graffiti on everything.