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Claire Foy understandably got all the attention and won all the awards but the actor who plays Tommy Lassells is incredible - he steals every scene he’s in.
LASCELLES, not LASSELLS.
Oh yes he does!
Pip Torren who plays Tommy Lascelles is priceless,(hope I spelled that correctly, don’t want spelling police to come down on me), I love every scene he’s in. When he says tick, tick, tick….i love it. To me he is a star and he does steal every scene he’s in. I also love when he tells Elizabeth all about her uncle and how her uncle was willing to have them bombed during WW11 and all Edward V111 ‘s dirty doings. He is so deadpan. I LOVE IT. 🥰🥰♥️🇺🇸🇺🇸
I think he is awesome! I love the way he puts people in their places!
@@marykuga4589Well yes, he is very deadpan. But I would say he has cold, dead, blank eyes more than he is deadpan, lol.😅
LOL I love this scene too! Tommy's look after "arrange the photographer" still cracks me up and the queen looks like she wants to tell them all off and its taking everything within her not to slap them all...lol!
That wasn't his line.
For a woman who didn’t want to end up being Queen Consort the Queen Mother does an awful lot of meddling.
Well, once you're in the job - whether you wanted it or not - you might as well take a hefty swing at it. Still counts as meddling though.
Right?? Somehow she, “grew into the job.” lol
Once she got a taste of power, her thirst was unquenchable. A true narcissist. She really thought that she would continue to be the power behind the throne like she was with her husband King George VI. Infuriatingly, Prince Philip also expected to fill that role. Little wonder the two of them butted heads so much.
And the solution? They gave Philip chairmanship of the Coronation Commission and Norfolk the Chairmanship of two other Committees, the Joint Committee and Executive Committee, who did the actual work!
essentially they bypassed him!
What work?
@@tatata1543
You think that everything that
happens at a coronation just
falls from the sky?
The marvellous thing about Pip Torrens as “Tommy” Lascelles , is that Pip Torrens himself , is naturally intelligent , urbane , dry and witty .
The Queen Mother refusing to let go of the reins from the outset. One is bound to wonder what the late Queen's reign would have looked like if she had been able to stand up to her mother.
I don't think the Queen ruled with her own opinions until after her mother died.
@@gerardcollins80 stick to the first three words of that comment
Tommy: There could only be one chairman.
QEII: As far as I’m aware I only have one husband.
😂😂😂😂😂
Her mother should have disagreed with her in private. She undermined the queen and reinforced the ‘too young with little experience’ perception. I’ sure she appreciates her mother’s council, and perhaps Elizabeth should have sought it out prior to the meeting, but the Queen Mother still should have voiced her concerns privately.
The Queen Mother, the dowager Queen, should’ve kept her mouth shut, period. Shouldn’t even have been present for that meeting. QEII needed to establish authority over all those men and all her mother did was seduce them to do HER bidding. Which failed, btw.
“What do you want me to do?”
“Exactly as I tell you.”
WTF?!
Yeah, true. She wasn't helping the cause that way.
It’s a drama. :-)
@@valeriauk8158 that’s what I’m commenting on. Whether this actually happened this way in real life is doubtful.
Well, the queen mother was a self-centered snob with a chip on her shoulder. Early on, she refused to move out of Buckingham Palace until Churchill told her she had to leave. there was never a queen mother before her - - she made up the title. If my memories correct, she also felt her blood lines were more royal than the actual royal families
One of the very rare times in Her Majesty's early reign where she finally got a "set". Awesome... Claire Foy absolutely superb !!
I really like the Queen's hairstyle in this scene. It's the most accurate in the entire first 2 seasons of the show.
"....arrange the photographer," LoL
I think the Queen Mother forgets that her daughter is a now all grown up and Queen. To her, she’s still Lilibet. Not atypical of moms.
Yeah and she was the Queen before and had experience whereas the new Queen had zero. Her older version of herself would have understood perfectly. Head of state is not a hobby and decisions affect many people. Decisions are not to be taken based on personal whims or self created entitlememt. You might argue the Duke of Norfolk was entitled too but the point is that the establishment had endorsed his role based on precedence.
I think it's not so much that she forgets that Elizabeth is all grownup as it is that she forgets that she herself is no longer Queen.
Mums*
This is just pretend you realise 😂
@@penelopesmith3117 not its all real!!!! LOL.....
What a fantastic actor Pip is.
Pip Torrens was the absolute best his Tommy Lassells one of the reasons the show was so good. My favorate person the Crown was never as good after Tommy left the show.
As much as I love and respect my mother, if she were trying to undermine my authority at my job, she would have the mother of all dressing-downs from me. I would make sure that she would never interfere again, even if that meant we would not be on speaking terms for a long while.
She failed. Prince Phillip ended organizing the whole thing.
Tbh though the mother had a point
That’s the difference between you and the Queen in this drama, then. She didn’t need to give her “the mother of all dressing downs”. She did it with just a look.
The mother is just trying to keep order so her daughter's job isn't difficult.
The Queen Mother, like Victoria's mother, was a well-known bitch who should have been shipped off somewhere to stay out of affairs she was only able to be involved in through a turn of fate.
Arrange the photographer is savage 😂😂😂
The thing that kept enraging me the first two seasons was seeing none of them seem to respect her, and they were treating it as though they were the ones doing her job. And where treating her like it was their decisions and not hers.
Tbh, the more you read and learn about it, it's quite likely that this was indeed the attitude in real life at the beginning of her reign. The Queen Mother was purported to have felt that her own reign was too short and viewed her daughters as nothing more than a continuation of her own. I have a feeling the Queen didn't really rule with her own opinions until after her mother died.
Things went back to tradition for Charles' coronation with the 18th Duke of Norfolk in charge of its organizing.
Thank goodness. Imagine CowMilla being in charge of it.
@@JimMac23 not that would have been of any energy to help... they were younger then... not the upper range the King is.
He had a lot less to do, with only a quarter of the attendees, and the Abbey experienced with TV. More security, less construction and carpet.
I freaking love that show!
shortly i expect to be bidding farewell to the duke of brown
omg the queen mother face after Elizabeth said that, also can you do more The Crown Screnes because I make edits of the crown.
It's a business, nothing more. I scratch your back you scratch mine.
Yes, ma'am.
In this scene, HM the Q shows some of the steeliness of her grandmother Mary!
The duke just needs to suck it up,and take his orders
Good to be the sovereign, you have the final say
If anyone wants an “interesting “. View on the Queen Mother read Lady Colin Campbell’s book about her. It’s a real eye opener.
I am constantly amazed at the number of people who worship the Queen Mum when it's so well documented what an absolute bitch she was.
That book is ahistorical trash
Better things to read than trash from that grifter .
Thank you God for everything and blessings and Angels protection and healing and healing and healing
Pity the Queen Mum did not know HER place. She was never of Royal blood, just the second or third daughter of a minor Scottish noble. As for Tommy, he was worse!
But she couldn’t stand up for her Own Sister.😢
What? Margareth could have married Townsend under the condition of giving up her priviledges as a royal. She made her choice. She did not love him more than her status. The Queen at the time had good reason to not approve this relationship and she had her internal fight with this decision...it wasnt easy.
That put lascelles inhisplae
He was never out of his place. He was amazing and saved the monarchy several times.
Several times Tommy obeys the Queen Mother and forgets his duty is to the current Queen, Elizabeth. I was no fan of his character.
Tradition tradition tradition
First 😁
People still do that? Sad.
@LifeOfTheParty323 Yep. And maybe to YOU, it is. But obviously not everyone.
@@amjh4lah809 You must not have anything better going on in your life than to worry about being the first comment. Please, go out and make a friends.
@@LifeOfTheParty323 I'm not worried. And have friends.
Looking at the comments, you aren't.
Chief Butler of England? I died laughing at the ridiculousness of this charade of titles and characters in our country. Does the uk really want to be taken seriously as a country with something to offer or just third spear carrier in someone else's play? Themore i watch this the more convinced I am that we no longer need nor want a monarchy. They make the country a laughing stock
I think they cover some of this later. HM finds out there is a chief daffodil wrangler and a royal purveyor of hats since the 18th century. As an American, I dont really have a dog in this hunt, but it is horrible here having a head of state who is guaranteed to be hated by 50% of the population. Having a head of state carefully isolated from politics sounds so relaxing.
@@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh This, exactly. I think some of our friends in Britain don't always understand what it's like not having someone like the Sovereign to play a ceremonial role. As it is, in our system the President has to wear both hats, and it means a lot more work for them and less time to spend on the business of actually governing. And in a polarized climate, it means that the person addressing the nation in times of crisis or tragedy is the last person half the country wants to hear from.
Tradition doesn't make you a laughingstock. The UK isn't a 'third spear carrier' because of the Monarchy, or immigrants, or the EU, or any of the other scapegoats. The UK has declined in importance because that is how history works: nations rise based on certain factors and strengths, then fade when those factors and strengths lessen or become less relevant. There is nothing to be done about it; if anything, be glad that it has been a very favorable fading that has retained your security and 1st world standard of living.
Why didn’t they learn to mind her damn business about what the queen did everything to try to phill they tried to interfere.
Because they were all part of the old guard. Every one of them played a key role in the monarchy at the time of the abdication, and the abdication almost ended the monarchy. It was only the personal popularity of George VI and Elizabeth, the queen mother, that kept it going. And they dutifully followed orders from those around them knowing full well if they put a foot wrong, that could be the end of it all.
None of them were prepared for Elizabeth to become queen when she did. She represented the new generation and they simply weren’t prepared. And truthfully, it wasn’t until the queen mother died that Elizabeth II was able to make a lot of changes.
It _was_ their business, lol. They were her advisers, and as monarch, Elizabeth’s life (and by association, her husband’s) was not her own. But she, of course, had the final say, and they just had to deal with that
Let's say you are a 50 year old man in that office. This would be your 5th monarch. As far as you would be concerned you literally do know her job better than her.
It's the same thing with 40 year veterans of the CIA. You would have seen 8 Presidents come and go. Who are they to tell you anything? That is a real thing BTW.
Because Phil and Liz threatened their very existence. Progress is the enemy of fuddy-duddies like this.
@@jayfielding1333 No, you have no clue. The advisors were often right and saved the royals from many f ups. Nobody is perfect though.