Thanks for tuning in once again! What do you think - would removing projectiles from melee weapons and increasing the melee class strength in other ways be a good idea? If so, how would you increase its viability?
Nah, it should stay like that cuz melee weapons need at least something that are long enough to hit enemies from afar, why? Because Hardmode is more difficult when your just swinging a powerful sword, while enemies can just fire a million projectiles at you
If they really wanted to they could do it like thorium and make it spawn from other pillars, but to be fair that might be a bit too weird for non-modded terraria.
Ranger: Shoots Ranged projectiles Magic: Uses magic to kill things Summon: Summons minions to help you Melee: Swings swords to magically summon ranged projectiles
Melee really is the farthest thing from the very definition of "melee" lmao The Wall of Text has awoken! Either way, i'd be up for a melee overhaul, the parry and counterattack mechanic from the brand of inferno could be expanded upon and given to all of the swords and potentially even the spears. Maybe even charge-up attacks for some weapons, and unleashing the attack can vary from anime-esque slash maneuvers to beyblading midair, and even simple lunges, skewering or overhead swings could do the trick! Pogo-jumping on top of enemies by swinging your weapon at them from below you like in hollow and/or shovel knight would also be great, and projectiles shot from some melee weapons could use a rework as well to make them much more unique than a simple sword beam, though tbh some weapons can be excempted from this like the enchanted sword as this is kinda their main gimmick lol ...And i might be getting a bit too carried away here but maaaybe hammers and axes could take a rework as well, their attack style differentiated from both swords and spears. Perhaps synergizing with each other so you could use them in tandem. :p
@@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079 Projectile Deflection maybe when parrying a projectile? And the higher your attack speed the more projectiles you can deflect
See, throwing as a ranger sub-class for ranger makes sense However, I’m disappointed that there aren’t more weapons, and that there isn’t a shroomite helmet for it It would make SO much sense
@@vinayakcs7292 Angler already has "Timmy" on his name list, but if they will make the thrower class real then it would be better if there will be a vendor NPC who will always be named "Timmy" and who will sell thrower stuff (Like how arms dealer sells ranger stuff) and possibly wear a miner set with a bucket for a helmet.
I really hoped they would develop Throwing and was quite said when I heard that it would get merged with Ranged, I always wanted throwing to sort of get an Alchemist "Subclass", which is based on using potions and gases to damage its enemies and uses the Alchemy Table for crafting it's stuff, the aesthetic of it could also be really amazing, sadly they didn't add it however. Edit: Oh also and they should add better shurikens, I liked how they are used feeling wise and with physics and having stuff like Silver/Tunsten, Gold/Platinum, Jester, Bone or Hell Shurikens would be pretty cool pre-hardmode and in Hardmode Ichor Shurikens and Holy Shurikens would be amazing.
I've had an idea for how to rework the throwing class for years. A way to make it especially fun would be to shift the bonus effects of the armor....Instead of % chance to not use ammo. its % chance to throw an additional projectile. Armor sets themselves can have bonuses that add more into the mess. like the ninja armor throwing an additional mini-shuriken every second. with accessories buffing out throw range and speed. Resource management would be a bigger pain, but the perk would be turning your character into a shotgun. and it would feel totally different from other classes. [Though maybe give them a hardmode freebie like an infinite knife pouch, like the quiver and musket pouch, just to make it fair.] #bringbackthrowing
imagine having to fight closely with the enraged empress of light, or with the empress in whatever state she is, or with the twins, or with the wall of flesh, in high difficulty.
@@suckonfatman6027 Yeah but not everyone likes the non vanilla esque direction that Calamity takes. Thorium apparently got a decent sized update, so the mod that has a vanilla like throwing class getting an update recently sounds great!
Idea for a throwing class pillar: the black hole pillar. Every enemy is nightmarish, and the black hole fragments can be used to craft black hole grenades and black hole javelins. The javelins have lifesteal while the grenades deal a lot of damage. The set bonus for black hole armor is that thrown weapons are way faster and are unaffected by gravity.
Yes, my thoughts are exactly the same. Thrower should be a class and some of melee weapons should be moved to thrower. Melee NEEDS a rework so it should be melee, not magically spawning projectiles from range. Armors for melee should add more defense or damage reduction to make sure it is viable coming close to enemies at higher difficulties.
I feel like what happened was that they were just giving the summoner class so much attention in 1.4, they realized how much could have been asked of them to make even another class viable. So they thought it would be cleaner just to call the four big terraria classes done and not have to worry about throwing being the awkward side class that summoner used to be
However unlike summoner throwing sounds like it would have been really easy to make viable, there are plenty of weapons in the game stretching as far as the pillars that just make so much more sense for throwing, add headpieces for hardmode armors like they did for summoner and just like that the class is viable at least until mid hardmode and they only had to add a few headpieces
Classes I wish were more of a thing is the thrower and healer. Thrower obviously got some things then just tossed aside but if I'm not mistaken the only item that heals teammates is the spectre armor hood and that barely does it. Ironically both are in Thorium
I mean, that's the opposite from what I have seen in the modding community. But if anything, it doesn't make sense it's a class. You aren't actually doing any work yourself in the fight, your minions are, and they don't die, and aren't affected by most debuffs, and the only one of two (possibly 3) draw backs was removed in 1.4 they became buffed like non-melee melee. Overrated class imo. Should just do damage based on the summon, or class-less, or other debuffs/nerfs to make the summoner do more than summon the minions while running away and the one time whip thing. I hate mage and ranger abuse of running while hiding the trigger, but atleast they have a eventual cool down where they can't fire and must focus on damaging or just running and doing NO damage. Summoner basically ignores most, If not all of these draw backs, having minimal ones that can be worked around if you play them right.
@@zionthedragon8866 Yeah but their defense is hot garbage If you’re really good at summoner to the point where you won’t die, you’ll probably be unstoppable using the other three classes.
@@goofyahdemoman1134 But that's part of the problem, is that it is made to be op for other classes, thus not a true solo class, and can wreak gameplay if not careful...
Just double the damage on all melee weapons that have projectiles and remove the projectiles themselves. Melee will be more about squeezing yourself in for a good couple blows than about spamming your weapon in the general direction of thr enemy
that is essentially what Calamity does with True melee damage, and it works well, its the highest dps class in the game, especially if you time your hits with adrenaline. Can shred bosses that get close :D
@@Goremize The real challenge is doing daytime Eol vía true melee Or a boss that has a 10 tile insta kill radius because some kid really wanted to make a funny boss.
melee could also use some like, bonus like, having doubled defense for some seconds so that it can hit the enemy more, or also a ability that makes us like, grapple onto a enemy or boss (especially the flying ones) without taking melee damage from them so we can hit them, also rework the melee class in the Wof - mechanical bosses cuz its where melee is at its worst, like add more easily obtainible swords or more flails
1:01 I love that weird sound Timmy makes xD It would be nice to see the throwing class coming back, but it should be more complete, adding some hardmode weapons and armors, or even adding some for pre-hardmode
Wdym easy to implement??? Making a ton of weapons for all stages of the game, giving it unique feeling armors, and making it feel vanilla like is easy?? U make it sound like calamity made the whole class in a week lmao
The mechanic is in the game already. Resprite already existing weapons and give them different damage. I don't think it's hard for an experienced team of developers.
Those are just different sets of armor and costumes of armor combined, but when I saw the hat on the second one, I actually thought Svings found some mod for it
A whole new class means a whole new pillar and because there would be an odd number of classes , then the pillar would be in the middle of the world. Where most people make their bases
As for the bass thing, perhaps move the base? Or move the pillars higher up in the sky? Or handle it like the goblin army or blood moon when it happens at your base?
1:55 that's a bad idea imo, a good example is melee prehardmode. By removing projectiles the melee class is going to definitely be the worst one and maybe not even viable. To make things work melee would need to either have lots more defence, way more damage or medium range with decent damage and good piercing. I don't feel the need for a class that can count as ranged just like it is now There's quite a lot that could be added/ changed in the game but it's still my favourite. And I don't think relogic wants to make more big updates with balance changes or new additions like items or mobs
Manaless mage also exists in tmodloader due to luiafk adding in a series of infinite mana accessories. The first one is obtainable as early as post goblins, but as a consequence, reduces your magic damage by 30% (meteor armor in 1.3 gives 21% magic damage, so you shouldn’t have that much of an issue). It can also be upgraded in post Skeletron, pre mechs, post mechs, post golem, and post moon lord.
The top 3 Features for a 1.4.4 Update: 3°) Thrower Class (With New Accessories, new Armor and new Weapons, *even a new Celestial Pillar* ) 2°) Desert / Antilion Boss (The Desert just don't have nothing that much) 1°) *PLEASE RE-LOGIC JUST ADD THE FRICKING BOSS BAR TO THE DREADNAUTILUS PLEEEEEE-*
Wana learn the reason of why throwing class didn't get any updates and then deleted? Because a guy almost finished game with 1.3 thrower class. Thrower class is OP and that's why it's removed and didn't need any improvements
Yeah. Removing projectiles from melee weapons I NOT a good idea. I’m doing a melee play through and using yo-yos for a bit of range before you get the death sickle is so difficult
Although at this point it would be unlikely for this to happen to Terraria, as they have said that 1.4 was the last major update, maybe it they do end up making a Terraria 2 they can improve upon it there!
Ok so as a response to the idea of grenades being useful in hardmode, according to my own personal research, it's a 50/50 case, with the main thing dividing it's usefulness being differculty. In harder modes, grenades fall off due to just how much hp enemies have in hardmode, as while their utility is immense especially for raw rangers. The problem is without a immense amount of damage buffs through armor and potions, grenades fall off hard since an armored skeleton can tank like 7 in master mode, even with pallidum ranged Armor and a full menacing set and ranger emblem. Hardmode grenades are on my terraria wishlist but I still think that if the terraria devs wanted to add back throwing weapons, they can do a thing similar to shroomite armor where it's 50% ranger, but 50% spesific ranged weapon
I think it'd be cool if the Melee ranged projectiles used mana (or maybe some other resource) in order to use them. You'd still be able to use the melee weapon if said resource runs out, unlike magic weapons, but the projectile wouldn't be created. Maybe, if it does have its own separate resource, it would replenish faster if the character's at low health? Or maybe it'd work based on proximity to enemies, filling up faster the closer you got to stronger foes? Maybe even have it fill up more based on the damage you deal with the melee part of the weapon? idk I'm not a game designer, I'm just kinda throwing out ideas here.
1:47 also the Yoyos should probably count as a throwing class weapon. I mean they have way too long a range to really be melee but play to differentley to be ranger weapons (and actually melee for that matter, even the projectile swords usually play by the same rule book.). Well since you throw them why not make them a throwing class weapon?
a class I want to see exist is the shapeshifter class, just think of this, being able to transform in a different place, you're high in the sky, your now a harpy! you're in hell, demon! you're in that fungi biome, you're now a truffle variant! they already did one for the wolf and merman. I want to see a whole class made to transform into involvement.
I was with him about the throwing I would really like to experience another class that I have never done before and would probably have a lot of fun playing it’s just that it’s only kinda useful in pre hard mode and I want an experience that will last me from the start to moon lord
make melee actually able to TANK damage and get up close and personal how? all the meta melee weapons now give absurd amounts of DR and Defense for a very short amount of time after hitting an enemy. increase this with melee armor sets. kind of like how rogue from calamity isn't actually rogue until you get your first rogue set, melee wouldn't be melee until the first melee set (just like every other class, you can call yourself a ranger, and stick to ranged, but you aren't actually a ranger until your first ranged set)
@@goofyahdemoman1134 i honestly wouldn't mind that, melee is already a class that isn't meant to solo, but instead take pressure off your higher dps but more fragile team
Honestly throwing was more of a class than summoner pre-hardmode and in 1.3.5 it had more weapons than there was minions. The main problem I could see with making throwing a full class is the problem of boss loot + them dropping consumable weapons. Killing moon lord a bunch of times to get a 1 in 10 drop chance consumable weapon would be a pain to farm up (and pillar weapons for that matter) would be an absolute pisstake however this could be fixed by (like you mentioned) putting over a bunch of melee weapons like boomerangs (Also the knife weapons, scourge of the corrupter and Tbh Yoyos fit throwing better too) that should really be throwing and adding a few non consumable throwing weapons too to give it a mix.
"HAHAHA!! Bringing Thrower class back, What a good April fool's joke! HAHAHAHA-a, huh?" *Cartoon_Mumbling_sounds "I-It's no April?" *Negative_Mumbling "H-he's being serious??" *Affirmative_Mumbling "Ohh..." ". . ." "uhhh, Y-yeah!! G-good idea!! They Should actually bring Thrower back. HAHAHa-ha..." *starts calling the Insane Asylum behind my back
Thanks for tuning in once again! What do you think - would removing projectiles from melee weapons and increasing the melee class strength in other ways be a good idea? If so, how would you increase its viability?
No
Yes sounds like a great idea
NO
Nah, it should stay like that cuz melee weapons need at least something that are long enough to hit enemies from afar, why? Because Hardmode is more difficult when your just swinging a powerful sword, while enemies can just fire a million projectiles at you
Also hi Svings again
I dont know why they even gave up on it in the first place, it had potential to be just as good as the other class because of its viability it pre-hm
The reason why i want it back bc of the nova pillar
Yes im "that" guy
Lore
Calamity: i have Rogue :>
@@brokeeee which is buffed thrower with stealth which is hard to pull off at times. Plus not everyone does mods.
@@zionthedragon8866 but
Calamity have Rogue :>
@@brokeeee I think thorium did a better job on throwing. As long as you don’t want a longer game. It has a really cool thing to it
It’s called fossil armor because that’s how dead the class is
Roasted.
Jesus, you didn’t have to go that hard 😂
Agreed , range is prett dead , thx for agreeing
as much as i want throwing class back. I don't want a lunar pillar spawn in the middle of the world
If they really wanted to they could do it like thorium and make it spawn from other pillars, but to be fair that might be a bit too weird for non-modded terraria.
Just remove the pillars and have lunatic cultist drop the celestial sigil and all 5 types of fragments.
just make an rng where it decides which side of the world is the pillar gonna spawn
I kinda do
Why not it spawn in space or hell
Ranger: Shoots Ranged projectiles
Magic: Uses magic to kill things
Summon: Summons minions to help you
Melee: Swings swords to magically summon ranged projectiles
Melee really is the farthest thing from the very definition of "melee" lmao
The Wall of Text has awoken!
Either way, i'd be up for a melee overhaul, the parry and counterattack mechanic from the brand of inferno could be expanded upon and given to all of the swords and potentially even the spears. Maybe even charge-up attacks for some weapons, and unleashing the attack can vary from anime-esque slash maneuvers to beyblading midair, and even simple lunges, skewering or overhead swings could do the trick! Pogo-jumping on top of enemies by swinging your weapon at them from below you like in hollow and/or shovel knight would also be great, and projectiles shot from some melee weapons could use a rework as well to make them much more unique than a simple sword beam, though tbh some weapons can be excempted from this like the enchanted sword as this is kinda their main gimmick lol
...And i might be getting a bit too carried away here but maaaybe hammers and axes could take a rework as well, their attack style differentiated from both swords and spears. Perhaps synergizing with each other so you could use them in tandem. :p
@@denebkhast only if any of the bosses actually supported a close range approach
@@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079 Projectile Deflection maybe when parrying a projectile? And the higher your attack speed the more projectiles you can deflect
also melee uses a toy to deal damage
referring to yoyo by the way
@@JanMaykiel yoyo is Zenith
when svings actualy saves timmy instead of torturing him lol
Rare footage, isn't it...
we all know the tortured soul is actually timmy not the tax collector
You now you should vid about timmy
Svings is the only one allowed to be mean to Timmy
He doesn't accept someone else torturing him, only Svings can do that
Melle weapons without magic beans really feel cursed oh jeez
Also #bringbackthrowing
Magic B E A N
Damn dude, magic beans.
Melee weapons spawning giant beanstalks… what a sandbox we live in
Ah yes my favorite class, melle
That sentence just made my day lol
Throwing might not be a class, but this video surely is. Thanks again!
Now that's an awesome comment. Thank you :P
The youtube influencer class where u attack enemies with timmy
Timmy sounds like Charlie from Flowers for Algernon in my head, that's why I like his squeaky voice.
Oh wow,I was thinking no one else knew about that book
@@mucegai7854 it’s great. haven’t read it in years though lol
imagine they do add the throwing class and we get a fifth celestial pillar
what have you brought upon this cursed land
since it was your idea why don't you name the fifth pillar lol
@@sunnerssnag lol ok, it shall be called the nova pillar (as in supernova, and also because nova translates to "new" in a few languages)
@@TempestKrimps brilliant! now give it a colour scheme >:D
@@sunnerssnag i'll leave that to the modding people, my creativity ends here :p
@@TempestKrimps understandable have a good day
See, throwing as a ranger sub-class for ranger makes sense
However, I’m disappointed that there aren’t more weapons, and that there isn’t a shroomite helmet for it
It would make SO much sense
0:19
"You will never fit in"
Calamity: Allow me to introduce myself
Also, if they add it back it should be called the timmy class…
Or maybe...
A new NPC which can have the name Timmy, maybe the Guide's brother...
Yes
@@vinayakcs7292 Angler already has "Timmy" on his name list, but if they will make the thrower class real then it would be better if there will be a vendor NPC who will always be named "Timmy" and who will sell thrower stuff (Like how arms dealer sells ranger stuff) and possibly wear a miner set with a bucket for a helmet.
I imagine the late hardmode throwing class armour to be like some kind of space ninja thingy
And honestly, the fossil armor looks pretty cool
If Super Mario Bros 2. has taught me anything,
It's that throwing stuff at your enemies is fun.
Your wish is being made. True Nights Edge and True Excalibur are getting a rework that feels more melee than ranged swords.
I really hoped they would develop Throwing and was quite said when I heard that it would get merged with Ranged, I always wanted throwing to sort of get an Alchemist "Subclass", which is based on using potions and gases to damage its enemies and uses the Alchemy Table for crafting it's stuff, the aesthetic of it could also be really amazing, sadly they didn't add it however.
Edit: Oh also and they should add better shurikens, I liked how they are used feeling wise and with physics and having stuff like Silver/Tunsten, Gold/Platinum, Jester, Bone or Hell Shurikens would be pretty cool pre-hardmode and in Hardmode Ichor Shurikens and Holy Shurikens would be amazing.
I've had an idea for how to rework the throwing class for years.
A way to make it especially fun would be to shift the bonus effects of the armor....Instead of % chance to not use ammo. its % chance to throw an additional projectile.
Armor sets themselves can have bonuses that add more into the mess. like the ninja armor throwing an additional mini-shuriken every second. with accessories buffing out throw range and speed.
Resource management would be a bigger pain, but the perk would be turning your character into a shotgun. and it would feel totally different from other classes.
[Though maybe give them a hardmode freebie like an infinite knife pouch, like the quiver and musket pouch, just to make it fair.]
#bringbackthrowing
I think the projectiles for melee should just be extremely shortened
Using storm spear as an example
imagine having to fight closely with the enraged empress of light, or with the empress in whatever state she is, or with the twins, or with the wall of flesh, in high difficulty.
@@lidiadume4977 Melee is already tanky as hell and has a lot of options in weaponry , the nerf for it would be a fair one
At least when 1.4 TModLoader will be released we will get throwing class back!
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We already have the rogue class from Calamity
@@suckonfatman6027 Yeah but not everyone likes the non vanilla esque direction that Calamity takes. Thorium apparently got a decent sized update, so the mod that has a vanilla like throwing class getting an update recently sounds great!
Idea for a throwing class pillar: the black hole pillar. Every enemy is nightmarish, and the black hole fragments can be used to craft black hole grenades and black hole javelins. The javelins have lifesteal while the grenades deal a lot of damage. The set bonus for black hole armor is that thrown weapons are way faster and are unaffected by gravity.
Sounds interesting...
Yes, my thoughts are exactly the same. Thrower should be a class and some of melee weapons should be moved to thrower. Melee NEEDS a rework so it should be melee, not magically spawning projectiles from range. Armors for melee should add more defense or damage reduction to make sure it is viable coming close to enemies at higher difficulties.
I feel like what happened was that they were just giving the summoner class so much attention in 1.4, they realized how much could have been asked of them to make even another class viable. So they thought it would be cleaner just to call the four big terraria classes done and not have to worry about throwing being the awkward side class that summoner used to be
However unlike summoner throwing sounds like it would have been really easy to make viable, there are plenty of weapons in the game stretching as far as the pillars that just make so much more sense for throwing, add headpieces for hardmode armors like they did for summoner and just like that the class is viable at least until mid hardmode and they only had to add a few headpieces
Classes I wish were more of a thing is the thrower and healer.
Thrower obviously got some things then just tossed aside but if I'm not mistaken the only item that heals teammates is the spectre armor hood and that barely does it.
Ironically both are in Thorium
"A nonexistent class"
basically how the community treats summoner
I mean, that's the opposite from what I have seen in the modding community. But if anything, it doesn't make sense it's a class. You aren't actually doing any work yourself in the fight, your minions are, and they don't die, and aren't affected by most debuffs, and the only one of two (possibly 3) draw backs was removed in 1.4 they became buffed like non-melee melee. Overrated class imo. Should just do damage based on the summon, or class-less, or other debuffs/nerfs to make the summoner do more than summon the minions while running away and the one time whip thing. I hate mage and ranger abuse of running while hiding the trigger, but atleast they have a eventual cool down where they can't fire and must focus on damaging or just running and doing NO damage. Summoner basically ignores most, If not all of these draw backs, having minimal ones that can be worked around if you play them right.
@@zionthedragon8866 Yeah but their defense is hot garbage
If you’re really good at summoner to the point where you won’t die, you’ll probably be unstoppable using the other three classes.
@@goofyahdemoman1134 But that's part of the problem, is that it is made to be op for other classes, thus not a true solo class, and can wreak gameplay if not careful...
Just double the damage on all melee weapons that have projectiles and remove the projectiles themselves. Melee will be more about squeezing yourself in for a good couple blows than about spamming your weapon in the general direction of thr enemy
that is essentially what Calamity does with True melee damage, and it works well, its the highest dps class in the game, especially if you time your hits with adrenaline. Can shred bosses that get close :D
@@Goremize The real challenge is doing daytime Eol vía true melee
Or a boss that has a 10 tile insta kill radius because some kid really wanted to make a funny boss.
melee could also use some like, bonus like, having doubled defense for some seconds so that it can hit the enemy more, or also a ability that makes us like, grapple onto a enemy or boss (especially the flying ones) without taking melee damage from them so we can hit them, also rework the melee class in the Wof - mechanical bosses cuz its where melee is at its worst, like add more easily obtainible swords or more flails
1:01 I love that weird sound Timmy makes xD
It would be nice to see the throwing class coming back, but it should be more complete, adding some hardmode weapons and armors, or even adding some for pre-hardmode
that angry birds sound effect was perfect lmao
I fricking love your videos man and your thumbnails are godly everytime. Really grabs my attention :)
Awh :) That's so sweet! Thank you so much for watching!
Everybody gangsta till timmy use zenith with throwing damage
zenith throwing knife
I'll take two :P
Yeetith
@@goofyahdemoman1134 zenmy
was so excited to see throwing in the big update but was sad when i saw the dumb range swap to all thrown items. .
I love how there's just a group of ninjas in the end lol.
I highly doubt they will ever remove melee projectiles but a man can dream
Indeed...
@@Svings i spent quite a bit to fish up this comment just to say that whe might have been wrong, fingers corssed...
@@simoneazzoni3882 haha, what makes you think something changed? :P
@@Svings th-cam.com/video/TE7a4QvEefM/w-d-xo.html
If they add it back, it will make a pillar in the middle of the map and you can call it is timmy pillar
That sounds amazing, haha
The Timmar
If projectiles are removed from melee, I think we deserve to have guard/parry
This will really destroy thorium's progression once it updates to 1.4...
They'll probably either reintroduce throwing damage or make entirely new weapons
@@snaxa163 All they have to do is recode the damage type, or bring back the old damage type
the only class that exist and not exist at the same time
It would be so easy to implement! The calamity mod already essentially made a new throwing class with the rogue.
Wdym easy to implement??? Making a ton of weapons for all stages of the game, giving it unique feeling armors, and making it feel vanilla like is easy?? U make it sound like calamity made the whole class in a week lmao
The mechanic is in the game already. Resprite already existing weapons and give them different damage. I don't think it's hard for an experienced team of developers.
Can i ask how you got the items to have a black silloutte at 1:37 or is it just added from editing
It is editing, yes. I'm sure messing with the games files without creating a mod could also work though :)
He most likely used shadow paint or shadow dye for the armor stands, for the weapons I don't know, probably editing(?)
The armor though is just regular dye indeed.
Those are just different sets of armor and costumes of armor combined, but when I saw the hat on the second one, I actually thought Svings found some mod for it
Ok
imagine being able to hold down ur mouse to charge the throwing weapons and it will go further and deal more damage
There are so many great possibilities that unfortunately many do not see nor acknowledge! Indeed!
throwing is like shooting, but your hands are the guns
A whole new class means a whole new pillar and because there would be an odd number of classes , then the pillar would be in the middle of the world. Where most people make their bases
That's a really interesting point. I'm sure there could be a decent fix for that though...
@@Svings what would you suggest?
As for the bass thing, perhaps move the base? Or move the pillars higher up in the sky? Or handle it like the goblin army or blood moon when it happens at your base?
@@zionthedragon8866 Sky Pillar
I want to see timmy into god mode
You deserve my subscription!
They could improve on it making it more of a tricksters class, that sets traps in the arena (like spiky balls but more stationary) for extra dps
Technically there are a few hm throwing weapons under melee class, being the vampire knives technically any boomerang and the daybreak
Interestingly, they plan to keep throwing in TModLoader when they have 1.4
Cough cough rogue
I dont care if thorium has a throwing class,
I want throwing class in vanilla
I would say pester Re-Logic, but they might get stressed lol
Calamity did something like this with the rogue class and I’m here for it
Melee is re logic favorite child so them huge nerfing melee seems like relogic wont do but i do want them to re add throwing class
1:55 that's a bad idea imo, a good example is melee prehardmode. By removing projectiles the melee class is going to definitely be the worst one and maybe not even viable. To make things work melee would need to either have lots more defence, way more damage or medium range with decent damage and good piercing. I don't feel the need for a class that can count as ranged just like it is now
There's quite a lot that could be added/ changed in the game but it's still my favourite. And I don't think relogic wants to make more big updates with balance changes or new additions like items or mobs
Read the pinned comment :)
@@Svings oh, i didn't see it. Although i still want to leave this comment here instead of copying a part of it there, hope you don't mind 👍
Gotcha!
Even though it’s technically melee, the javelins return with the daybreak, an endgame solar dos weapon
Melee is good when it becomes manaless mage.
Manaless mage also exists in tmodloader due to luiafk adding in a series of infinite mana accessories. The first one is obtainable as early as post goblins, but as a consequence, reduces your magic damage by 30% (meteor armor in 1.3 gives 21% magic damage, so you shouldn’t have that much of an issue). It can also be upgraded in post Skeletron, pre mechs, post mechs, post golem, and post moon lord.
I agree that it would be a nice throwback to when it existed
I wonder what a throwing class pillar would be like. Probably really annoying.
The top 3 Features for a 1.4.4 Update:
3°) Thrower Class (With New Accessories, new Armor and new Weapons, *even a new Celestial Pillar* )
2°) Desert / Antilion Boss (The Desert just don't have nothing that much)
1°) *PLEASE RE-LOGIC JUST ADD THE FRICKING BOSS BAR TO THE DREADNAUTILUS PLEEEEEE-*
Hahaha
Sadly none of these happened...
Wana learn the reason of why throwing class didn't get any updates and then deleted?
Because a guy almost finished game with 1.3 thrower class.
Thrower class is OP and that's why it's removed and didn't need any improvements
Them: Haha Timmy get rekt!
Me: Those builds are so cool!
For real tho, you should do a build tour! Those builds are sick!
Thanks a bunch! Maybe one day, who knows!
Yeah. Removing projectiles from melee weapons I NOT a good idea. I’m doing a melee play through and using yo-yos for a bit of range before you get the death sickle is so difficult
Please watch the video again. They should remove projectiles yet buff it in other ways.
Although at this point it would be unlikely for this to happen to Terraria, as they have said that 1.4 was the last major update, maybe it they do end up making a Terraria 2 they can improve upon it there!
@Me when I was born But is every update as big as 1.4 or as content filled?
Woah the intro was amazing with the plot and the fitting style of chienese(or however u spell it) builds!
I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
Ok so as a response to the idea of grenades being useful in hardmode, according to my own personal research, it's a 50/50 case, with the main thing dividing it's usefulness being differculty.
In harder modes, grenades fall off due to just how much hp enemies have in hardmode, as while their utility is immense especially for raw rangers. The problem is without a immense amount of damage buffs through armor and potions, grenades fall off hard since an armored skeleton can tank like 7 in master mode, even with pallidum ranged Armor and a full menacing set and ranger emblem.
Hardmode grenades are on my terraria wishlist but I still think that if the terraria devs wanted to add back throwing weapons, they can do a thing similar to shroomite armor where it's 50% ranger, but 50% spesific ranged weapon
I think it'd be cool if the Melee ranged projectiles used mana (or maybe some other resource) in order to use them.
You'd still be able to use the melee weapon if said resource runs out, unlike magic weapons, but the projectile wouldn't be created.
Maybe, if it does have its own separate resource, it would replenish faster if the character's at low health?
Or maybe it'd work based on proximity to enemies, filling up faster the closer you got to stronger foes?
Maybe even have it fill up more based on the damage you deal with the melee part of the weapon?
idk I'm not a game designer, I'm just kinda throwing out ideas here.
That intro was EPIC.
Calamity Rogue class = Vanilla Throwing class
a 5th pillar would probably be so annoying, maybe if they added the option to pick two groups of pillars (the original four and new four classes)
The throwing class is pretty much just a ranged sub-class now
HE FINALLY DID IT
YESSSSS
Throwing class? You mean throw it in the bin class?
Oi oi!
Thorium would like to throw you in the bin.
meele when the solar weapons are a wihp and a thower and the zenith is a boomerang
Sad thing is throwing acually has potential, just look at thorium and calamity (ik calamity is Rouge not throwing but they are basically the same)
1:47 also the Yoyos should probably count as a throwing class weapon. I mean they have way too long a range to really be melee but play to differentley to be ranger weapons (and actually melee for that matter, even the projectile swords usually play by the same rule book.). Well since you throw them why not make them a throwing class weapon?
Throwing is just ranged but you use your hands instead of guns.
If you think about it, Zenith looks like a Throwing Boomerang weapon.
a class I want to see exist is the shapeshifter class, just think of this, being able to transform in a different place, you're high in the sky, your now a harpy! you're in hell, demon! you're in that fungi biome, you're now a truffle variant! they already did one for the wolf and merman. I want to see a whole class made to transform into involvement.
*Laughs in Rogue class in Calamity *
I was with him about the throwing I would really like to experience another class that I have never done before and would probably have a lot of fun playing it’s just that it’s only kinda useful in pre hard mode and I want an experience that will last me from the start to moon lord
Agreed :)
make melee actually able to TANK damage and get up close and personal
how?
all the meta melee weapons now give absurd amounts of DR and Defense for a very short amount of time after hitting an enemy. increase this with melee armor sets. kind of like how rogue from calamity isn't actually rogue until you get your first rogue set, melee wouldn't be melee until the first melee set (just like every other class, you can call yourself a ranger, and stick to ranged, but you aren't actually a ranger until your first ranged set)
Like being able to tank even master mode, but it takes FOREVER to kill anything
@@goofyahdemoman1134 i honestly wouldn't mind that, melee is already a class that isn't meant to solo, but instead take pressure off your higher dps but more fragile team
Honestly throwing was more of a class than summoner pre-hardmode and in 1.3.5 it had more weapons than there was minions. The main problem I could see with making throwing a full class is the problem of boss loot + them dropping consumable weapons. Killing moon lord a bunch of times to get a 1 in 10 drop chance consumable weapon would be a pain to farm up (and pillar weapons for that matter) would be an absolute pisstake however this could be fixed by (like you mentioned) putting over a bunch of melee weapons like boomerangs (Also the knife weapons, scourge of the corrupter and Tbh Yoyos fit throwing better too) that should really be throwing and adding a few non consumable throwing weapons too to give it a mix.
Wait till 1.5 where ranged gets removed and throwing gets added back
Daybreak: I'm a weapon that you literally throw at enemies.
Throwing: So does that mean-?!
Daybreak: no.
Haha, I know right?
Thanks for this video
throwing could be nice, like a medium-ranged gimmick class with high crit chance or a tanky bruiser that throws heavy projectiles
Funny how throwing class was way more consistent than melee through all of pre-hardmode and yet it got removed
#Bringbacktrowing You have a good point, i'm going with you to this war👏🙌☝🖖👈✌
I hope they bring back Throwing as the Thorium version of it
I come from the future, from the year 2022, February 30, 1.5 came out and they brought back the thrower class
Is it good?
@@Svings The best update ever
I have an insane subclass for thrower
Tackler
Instead of throwing weapons at the enemy, you throw yourself at the enemy
"HAHAHA!! Bringing Thrower class back, What a good April fool's joke! HAHAHAHA-a, huh?"
*Cartoon_Mumbling_sounds
"I-It's no April?"
*Negative_Mumbling
"H-he's being serious??"
*Affirmative_Mumbling
"Ohh..."
". . ."
"uhhh, Y-yeah!! G-good idea!! They Should actually bring Thrower back. HAHAHa-ha..." *starts calling the Insane Asylum behind my back
Fun fact: some dude beated the game with this class
I think his name is happydays
@@nilzerYT yup
Daybreak should be a throwing weapon
I wpuld love to see these thing implemented.
Should make boomerang class
True.
And those disc things you get from destroyer
Daybreak can be a throwing weapon so there is throwing weapons in hardmode
Man, the roofs !
Awesome stuff
Thanks a ton!
ur video and editing is just tooooooooooooo gooooooooooooood
Thank you so much! It's awesome to hear you enjoyed it! :)
who needs a throwing class when the potential for a yoyo class is right there?? #yoyoclassplease
2minutes and 20seconds of a nonstop agreeing
You and your bomb comments :P Thank you for the millionth time!
@@Svings Well thank you too. I was abscent for a week in a sports camp and now I am going to watch everything I've missed.
I'm really glad you're back! I was actually wondering where you went missing.
Awww :)))
if timmy goes to calamity he will loose his squeaky voice and would go "ROUGE" with his throwing class
Calamity mod: i got you, timmy.
Me how many Times you want to *die in Terraria*
Timmy: yes