I like how he says that gunners found it hard to hit things and got sick then shows clips of him spinning, slamming the breaks and doing 180's lmao that's too good
@@Swisshost not only that, but ALL of the gunners on every vehicle are coupled to the turning of the pilot. No battlefield has done this until now, and it feels fucking awwwwful.
@@rdowg each time a mainstream battlefield released(BF3,BF4 for example) they where buggy as hell for a few weeks after launch, after 2-3 patches those bugs where fixed most of the time.
The thing I love about the little bird texture is that it has a valid US tailnumber (you play as PMCs so a civilian tail number makes sense)... the funny thing about that tail number is that it is registered to a Partenavia P-68
@@tommihommi1 Attack heli without a gunner should be a good Anti vehicle role. The gunner should solely serve the purpose of massacring infantry lol. just hoping the anti vehicle equipment in the full release will be more effective than it was in BF4. Either that or I better get my Soflam and Javelin combo back.
+@@volkolol+ Well IRL the Gunner on an Attack Helicopter is the person who controls the anti-tank missiles and the pilot just flies and uses the rockets/maybe AA missiles. The Pilot CAN use the ATGMs but it doing so whilst Flying was near impossible with old SACLOS guided weapons.
I can’t for the life of me bind “throttle up” and “throttle down” at the same time, it’s either one or the other… so if bind one, the other becomes blank in the menu. Really frustrating as I wanted to try helos myself since I’m not liking the infantry play (movement is way too fast and TTK way too high)
@@sam8742 I have no idea then I thought they'd let you rebind controls on console unless that's just a pc thing far right on pc in settings is keybindings
For me as someone that absolutely loved the heli flying in BF4 this one has been a massive change and not for the better. The momentum/speed/inertia if the bird doesn't work, the heli seems to be fighting the forward and side movements of the controller and because of that change the speed a heli can fly as seems to be a forward stop forward stop motion. Using the miniguns during a dive attack is much harder to be cause as you try and aim down and fire the bird wants to pull up and level out causing you to almost have to adjust your aim to compensate as if its a basic machinegun with bullet spray. I think what Dice was shooting for was a more 'on rails' approach to flying the heli to make it more accessible to beginner players or players on controller as they seems made for controllers. This 'accessibility' I think was a way of possibly nerfing heli pilot veterans as the heli mechanics are closer to MW:Warzone than previous Battlefields. The little bird weapons seem very odd to me as well. The miniguns don't seem to hurt as much as they should and the reticle for firing them seems off, as if you shoot slighty under. The minigun should be the main weapon of the little bird and shouldn't have to focus so much power into its rockets. Speaking of the rockets I think they replenish far too fast and are far too numerous, which currently they have to be. The minigun doesn't net kills like it should so you have to use the rockets a majority of the time. The amount of rockets needed to kill a single infantrymen is absurd, 5 are needed for a kill not counting those missed because of the unreliable firing reticle and the speed at which they recharge needs to compensate for their overuse. Which seems to be one rocket every half second reload. I'm confused to why they thought to change the reload of rockets from BF4, where you had a set salvo of a set amount of rockets and if you fired half well you either burn the rest or reload, maybe reverting to that system could fix the speed and salvo amount of both attack and little bird? If its not broken... To wrap up, heli flying in Battlefield 2042 seems to limit the player control in favour of accessibility. Making odd choices on the armaments and the stats at which they deal damage. This is something I have hope for a change when the game releases or maybe something close to a 'legacy control' option that allows us to stretch our legs like we used to.
Nah man, Helis on controller were so comfy to use once you got a handle of them. Very easy to use but a little while to get use to. Jet's were the hard ones.
Can you elaborate on removing the fly assist? Watching this footage, I totally agree with this original comment. Helicopters need momentum. If you can pitch and roll without going into the ground, then you cant gain real speed to fly low. Looks like they butchered the physics to make it noob friendly. Awful choice, more people to fight for the helicopter. I only get BF games for helo flying, and this looks like a "no" so far.
No, this new control scheme for helicopters was NOT made for controllers. The original flying mechanics from BF3 and BF4 were superb for jet aircraft and helicopters. As someone who played an absurd amount of both games, this new flying mechanic is actually a lot harder on a controller and if anything favors mouse and keyboard as inputs are more precise which allows for correcting inertia, whereas on a controller it usually overcorrects a lot and I just crash and die.
1:53 I still find it funny how they throw away a whole stinger launcher and pick up a new one from their back. When I saw that in an early footage I had to laugh hard.
Because they're not very good. They keep trying to do new things and change stuff and they don't understand what makes them great in the first place i.e. making the planes so slow or making the game more and more arcade-y, etc...
They're a bit odd sure, but they haven't failed miserably. If you're sus about it, definitely hold on preordering and wait for my full heli review on release! I'll suffer for you if they're still bad XD
@@GoodieMobCustomurl I'm talking about the flying physics. In 2042 they just feel like the helis from warzone which float around. In BF4 you had to actually learn how they handled before you could fly well
@@OperatorDrewski cheers for replying, I did preorder the ultimate edition originally, but refunded last night as the impressions I got honestly were not too hopeful. Going to play a bit more over the weekend. Did you play much of the heli's in BF4? Easy to learn but hard to master. Honestly love the skill ceiling in that game
I personally believe the stinger is broken at the moment. In the closed alpha they didn't have any issues hitting their target. Personally it's too easy for a heli to avoid a missile in a arcade themed game.
I’m kinda pissed we haven’t got an attack jet like the warthog with missile pods for infantry kills and stuff but I think dice is taking a careful approach to this game and I’m not sure if I like it. And there isn’t any in depth vehicle customisation like 4 but correct me if I’m wrong please
@@ForgeKid This. The fact everyone can have them makes it pretty balanced in my eyes. Half of my game is avoiding missiles cause everyone on top of that building has them equipped. If anything I think the range on those stingers shouldn't be that long.
Heli SHOULD NOT be able to "hover" and move laterally like this, the physics are completely nerfed, making the skill gap lower, this is BF4 heli with training wheels for all the casuals....
@@dr.palsonp.h.d815 they're also weak as hell since one dumbfire rocket shot from an infantry will take out most little birds or severely cripple them.
Yeah I feel that. Bf3 felt like you were actually in control, but if you messed up once you were dead. Bf4 had almost the same flying physics as bf3 but obviously a little easier in terms of gaining altitude and dodging things. Bf 2042 really felt as if everything was assisted and I was just along for the ride. it didn’t feel like there was weight behind the aircraft or any learning curve but I’m sure that can be fixed eventually.
It's not just helis, being a secondary gunner on a ground vehicle also has horrible camera shake, even if the driver is not doing anything crazy. And yes, I turned Camera Shake to 0.
Little bird perfect rework (in my opinion) Buff mini gun velocity, damage and have them converge in one point Make the rockets more effective on vehicles and destroying cover.
could you rebind your controls? When playing with my controller im trying to rebind the Left stick (its throttle up and down) and i cant rebind it to R2 & L2...and that sucks.
I've noticed with all air units that flying low no longer makes you safe to radar locks. IDK if thats me or if that is how it works now. I know battlefield 3 and 4 had that feature in the game.
Yeah that's another massive step back and dumbing down of the game mechanics. BF3/4 had great skill based mechanics like below radar that rewarded skilled players that were capable of flying nap of the earth to avoid the unskilled lock-on spam that the game included. All that was thrown out the window in 2042, it's pathetic.
Yes but anybody can use the aa missile it’s not restricted to engie and also fun fact if you use certain guns like the lmg you can use ap rounds to do a decent amount of really easy damage
@@RedLancerMoto I've only been playing with the helicopters and I can say that even being a good pilot I get taken down super quick if I slip up. The fact that everyone can have the AA rocket launcher makes it really hard to deal with them. Also the AA vehicle can take you down within seconds and if positioned correctly like most things can cover and entire sector by themselves and I cant even fight them cause the dumb fire missiles don't do enough damage to take them head on. If I see an AA vehicle I just stay away from that place.
i think squads using ap LMGs and just shooting at them will the best way to shutdown good heli pilots if you really need too if your only looking at infantry
Looking at this, I really don’t like it. Arma and Squad have far more enjoyable-come-realistic mechanics, although I can imagine really enjoying being able to be a bit more aggressive with a helicopter. BF is changing
Itd be cool if every vehicle has their damage module… imagine shooting a panzerfaust at an apache or even the ka52 and took off its tail and it goes into a death spin…
The game has to strive and achieve infantry-vehicles balance. If it doesn’t, it’s not a successful COD player grabber and sales go down. Realism? You would control the battlefield with an Apache 3 miles outside map bounds. The little birds would make mincemeat of infantry and the jet’s CANNONS would also obliterate any 360 noscoping infantryman running through the open fields while being able to engage and take out enemy planes/helicopters way outside visual range.
After rebinding my keybinds for the helicopter for the first time i could not turn left or right, depending on which command i bound first. I was not able to fly any helicopter for the entire Beta.
@@TomP-148 BFV is the best BF game in many ways, including vehicle physics (ground vehicles and planes, at least since there are no choppers in it). Use a tank in BFV then try a tank in BF2042, it's depressing how much worse tanks control in 2042 almost as if the developers just started from scratch
I had a blast mobbing around in the scout heli taking on infantry and other helis. But I felt that slight annoyance with the miniguns whenever I tried to strafe enemies on the ground. I'm hoping they will be at a better state on release.
BF4 helis are the goat... no changing my mind after seeing that horrible camera chase the game forces you through while flying one. They had it right years ago. Why change it? It's literally a "solution looking for a problem" type situation.
I like using the Heli in the Beta, but I don't know why, I love using the Osprey, I just get my buddies in the turret, and we get on an objective, and just brrrrrrr everything on the ground with the miniguns and the 40mm
Talking about the little bird mini guns reminded me of Batman- Michael Keaton version. When he was shooting at the joker and the bullets went on either side of him. Lol
I'd be that guy to follow a helicopter kicking my ass all game with stingers and javelin locks all game purely out of spite. Hope the lock on range of soflam is further since the maps are much larger in this iteration.
You could dodge similarly in bf3 because of the turning radius of the missile. The locks behaved a little different from pc and xbox I noticed, like you could afterburn away on pc and the missle would just burn out after awhile but not on xbox. But to dodge a stinger on a hill while in an air vehicle, just flying at where it was fired with a bit of an angle, and the missile will pass by you and miss. It seems pretty similar to this, though I haven't played enough to know for sure the radius and how different it is.
I love helicopters in Battlefield...but the bindings in this beta are screwed up! This was one of the things I wanted to try the most but it's just not enjoyable right now
They are players against 99% garbage players though
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in the very first clip, how is he moving horizontally even though hes looking straight forward? i thought you have to be looking at a downward angle in order to not gain altitude?
I'm having issue setting my key binds for both yaw pitches. Its annoying because there both set to move mouse left/right, yet only one works. does anyone have any tips for me. thank you! ON Mouse and keyboard.
Flying feels so much more casual in this game. Also, not sure if it’s a bug but it feels like gravity doesn’t really exist in the heli’s and I have to fight to get to the ground
Being able to out maneuver lock-on / heatseeking missiles is a very nice change. In Battlefield 3/4, once a missile is locked onto you, you either use your counter-measures or fly as far as possible out of the enemy's range. Passive radar is honestly the most annoying upgrade since you literally have 1-2 seconds to react and dump your flares when you hear the warning beeps.
Great outline. I was hoping for a Settings step by step. I'm guessing because it's beta they combined Fixed Wing with the Helicopter. Kind of annoying. I'm having a lot of issues trying to fly, heh. This is complicated with the fact that people like to fly with you and as I'm trying to learn, I'm getting my teammates killed.
How do you feel about the control layout for mouse and keyboard? I constantly found I was trying to mouse right to Yaw right, but it would then Roll right - it made more sense to me to have a "Legacy" control layout where the mouse controls Yaw left/right and Pitch up/down and WASD controlled Throttle and Roll - like it does while you're infantry (only you replace strafing with rolling between the two), this means less in terms of having to re-train your muscle memory. I have the same issue for most flying games really (I don't have a HOTAS setup fwiw). But binding it for such during the beta didn't work - it would only allow me to spin in one direction as it seems to have only recognised the last re-bind done for Yaw. That and there's a disadvantage here in that if you need to constantly spin around an objective, you've gotta continually lift your mouse and re-place it to continue the left to right (or vice versa) movement. I'd love to hear your thoughts on such (I'd definitely watch a video on the subject ;) ) and not specific to Battlefield for that matter as the same logic could apply to many games with flying. D you feel it's better to re-train your muscle memory for the default vs. using a "Legacy Layout" and dealing with having to lift your mouse vs. a third option that may not be apparent to me just yet...
btw, if youre having trouble circling make sure youre using your roll AND (most importantly) pitch. its difficult at first but try circling using all your flight controls it is a lot faster especially for just turning.
I'm so relieved to see fluent helicopter gameplay. Everyone else I've seen literally treats the heli like a boat if they even know how to fly. And it looked very clunky, but seeing this it looks as good as BF4's heli movement, maybe smoother.
"smoother" is more like "extremely easy to fly". I.e. dumbed down for the Fortnite kids. It took me several days on the BF4 practice range to get my Heli keymapping just right to be able to be minimally effective with the Huey and the Littlebird. I jumped right into the little bird in 2042 and without any keymapping changes I can fly like a champ because the flight model is so arcade like. Zero skill IMO.
I've tried the beta, and they feel weird, like there is no inertia or weight. It is a lot more arcade than bf4/3, and aiming is more difficult because the heli reacts very fast to inputs. But even with all that weirdness going on they can be fun though, you can do some barrel rolls without falling straight to the ground like a rock. A thing that Drewski forgot to mention is that the copilot seat of the scout heli can spot targets for you and use something that i think is an ecm jammer. Also the machine guns are trash on infantry, they need to do something to them because they are very difficult to hit, you need to be very close and guess where of one the machine guns will shoot, and when you hit you get a lot of hitmarkers, they are frustrating to use
The 30mm canon is quite fun to play with, as long as you have a good pilot you can get some great games. Literally went 30/1 on my final match at the start of it (that one death was me accidentally jumping out.).
The stabilization of the attack chopper gunner is fine the main problem is it has almost no positive vertical travel so every time the pilot nose downs (the most common action) it pulls the gun and the camera with it and can get disorienting incredibly quickly. It also doesn’t help when the pilot doesn’t fly with this and mind and flys more like they would with the Night bird.
A little known fact about the miniguns is that they shoot rather low in BF2042. this is because you're missing the gyro-sight that the helicopter should have and did have back in BF4
Just wonder how you manage to fly so "smoothly". I have the yaw axis bind on horizontal mouse axis ( Arma things...) and in the beta of 2042 i m just unable to make it work ( right it works but not for left yaw).
I know this is older but I really want to know if you're able to use a flight ✈ stick for BF2042 with a console? I saw you have a Xbox. I only have a PS4. I saw the video of your VIRPLE set up. Thanks
I found that the helicopters didn’t feel like they had weight to them compared to BF4 you really had to have you head on to control them compared to this were it feels too easy and unrealistic
I'm so disappointed in the helicopters in bf2042, they basically fly themselves now it seems like it takes zero skill. I was able to hold the little bird in a almost 90 degree angle for like 45 seconds without it doing the usual dive to the ground.
I hab a bug yesterday while deploying and it let me choose one of the soldiers from bf3. When i spawned i still was one of the specialists but still interesting because the soldiers had the fitting symbols of their class.
BF Portal is where this game will absolutely shine
I agree
Maybe, right now I'm hating the gameplay, its too similar to MW for me
@@calvinp36ify MW is the new fps standard no can do.
Actually dice could make 2042 free to play with microtransactions for skins all that stuff, that's how that game feels
ye players are bullet sponge, feels like im playing Apex...
I like how he says that gunners found it hard to hit things and got sick then shows clips of him spinning, slamming the breaks and doing 180's lmao that's too good
Because the game is buggy as hell, pilots are out of the vehicle and glitching and gunner seats/camera shaking like crazy.
@@Swisshost not only that, but ALL of the gunners on every vehicle are coupled to the turning of the pilot.
No battlefield has done this until now, and it feels fucking awwwwful.
@@rdowg each time a mainstream battlefield released(BF3,BF4 for example) they where buggy as hell for a few weeks after launch, after 2-3 patches those bugs where fixed most of the time.
@@MustangVirtualAerobatics im hoping it's a bug, but we've only got about 2 weeks to wait and see🤷
The thing I love about the little bird texture is that it has a valid US tailnumber (you play as PMCs so a civilian tail number makes sense)... the funny thing about that tail number is that it is registered to a Partenavia P-68
Damn, I wonder if dice even guessed that someone would pick up on this.
"It's as easy as that"
Drew, are you serious
hahaha i'm sorry its a lot of practice and *THEN* ITS EASY!
attack helicopter without gunner should be useless, that's good
i played a match with only the little bird and i got it down after the match. just focus on heli combat and youll get it after a couple matches
@@tommihommi1 Attack heli without a gunner should be a good Anti vehicle role. The gunner should solely serve the purpose of massacring infantry lol. just hoping the anti vehicle equipment in the full release will be more effective than it was in BF4. Either that or I better get my Soflam and Javelin combo back.
+@@volkolol+ Well IRL the Gunner on an Attack Helicopter is the person who controls the anti-tank missiles and the pilot just flies and uses the rockets/maybe AA missiles. The Pilot CAN use the ATGMs but it doing so whilst Flying was near impossible with old SACLOS guided weapons.
I can’t for the life of me bind “throttle up” and “throttle down” at the same time, it’s either one or the other… so if bind one, the other becomes blank in the menu. Really frustrating as I wanted to try helos myself since I’m not liking the infantry play (movement is way too fast and TTK way too high)
Can you bind controls on console?
On pc there's options to change controller binds so I'd assume you can on console
the speed feels fine for me but i am a titanfall fan and i like things balls to the wall also yeah the ttk is too high for my liking
@@imoonset2682
I can't for the life of me get it to work
@@sam8742 I have no idea then I thought they'd let you rebind controls on console unless that's just a pc thing far right on pc in settings is keybindings
For me as someone that absolutely loved the heli flying in BF4 this one has been a massive change and not for the better. The momentum/speed/inertia if the bird doesn't work, the heli seems to be fighting the forward and side movements of the controller and because of that change the speed a heli can fly as seems to be a forward stop forward stop motion. Using the miniguns during a dive attack is much harder to be cause as you try and aim down and fire the bird wants to pull up and level out causing you to almost have to adjust your aim to compensate as if its a basic machinegun with bullet spray.
I think what Dice was shooting for was a more 'on rails' approach to flying the heli to make it more accessible to beginner players or players on controller as they seems made for controllers. This 'accessibility' I think was a way of possibly nerfing heli pilot veterans as the heli mechanics are closer to MW:Warzone than previous Battlefields.
The little bird weapons seem very odd to me as well. The miniguns don't seem to hurt as much as they should and the reticle for firing them seems off, as if you shoot slighty under. The minigun should be the main weapon of the little bird and shouldn't have to focus so much power into its rockets. Speaking of the rockets I think they replenish far too fast and are far too numerous, which currently they have to be. The minigun doesn't net kills like it should so you have to use the rockets a majority of the time. The amount of rockets needed to kill a single infantrymen is absurd, 5 are needed for a kill not counting those missed because of the unreliable firing reticle and the speed at which they recharge needs to compensate for their overuse. Which seems to be one rocket every half second reload. I'm confused to why they thought to change the reload of rockets from BF4, where you had a set salvo of a set amount of rockets and if you fired half well you either burn the rest or reload, maybe reverting to that system could fix the speed and salvo amount of both attack and little bird? If its not broken...
To wrap up, heli flying in Battlefield 2042 seems to limit the player control in favour of accessibility. Making odd choices on the armaments and the stats at which they deal damage. This is something I have hope for a change when the game releases or maybe something close to a 'legacy control' option that allows us to stretch our legs like we used to.
Ya it sucks lol
Did you disable fly assist? The heli definitely feels pretty similar to 4 with it disabled.
Nah man, Helis on controller were so comfy to use once you got a handle of them. Very easy to use but a little while to get use to. Jet's were the hard ones.
Can you elaborate on removing the fly assist? Watching this footage, I totally agree with this original comment. Helicopters need momentum. If you can pitch and roll without going into the ground, then you cant gain real speed to fly low. Looks like they butchered the physics to make it noob friendly. Awful choice, more people to fight for the helicopter. I only get BF games for helo flying, and this looks like a "no" so far.
No, this new control scheme for helicopters was NOT made for controllers. The original flying mechanics from BF3 and BF4 were superb for jet aircraft and helicopters. As someone who played an absurd amount of both games, this new flying mechanic is actually a lot harder on a controller and if anything favors mouse and keyboard as inputs are more precise which allows for correcting inertia, whereas on a controller it usually overcorrects a lot and I just crash and die.
1:53 I still find it funny how they throw away a whole stinger launcher and pick up a new one from their back. When I saw that in an early footage I had to laugh hard.
it makes no sense, why dont the reload ittt 😂
Has been like this since BF3
at4 disguised as stinger
Becuz you can't reload a stinger tube, it's made to be thrown away after shot , being accurate to real life , it's not a javelin
They have the power to access the void
The Heli's in BF4 were perfect, I have no idea why they've tried to reinvent them and failed miserably.
Because they're not very good. They keep trying to do new things and change stuff and they don't understand what makes them great in the first place i.e. making the planes so slow or making the game more and more arcade-y, etc...
Let’s be honest, helis we’re broken. Be happy that they didn’t basically make them useless and actually now allowed us to dodge rockets.
They're a bit odd sure, but they haven't failed miserably. If you're sus about it, definitely hold on preordering and wait for my full heli review on release! I'll suffer for you if they're still bad XD
@@GoodieMobCustomurl I'm talking about the flying physics. In 2042 they just feel like the helis from warzone which float around. In BF4 you had to actually learn how they handled before you could fly well
@@OperatorDrewski cheers for replying, I did preorder the ultimate edition originally, but refunded last night as the impressions I got honestly were not too hopeful. Going to play a bit more over the weekend. Did you play much of the heli's in BF4? Easy to learn but hard to master. Honestly love the skill ceiling in that game
I personally believe the stinger is broken at the moment. In the closed alpha they didn't have any issues hitting their target. Personally it's too easy for a heli to avoid a missile in a arcade themed game.
I would agree but literally every specialist can have them at hand which can just be to much.
@@ForgeKid exactly, ive had like 5 missiles come at me at the same time before
I’m kinda pissed we haven’t got an attack jet like the warthog with missile pods for infantry kills and stuff but I think dice is taking a careful approach to this game and I’m not sure if I like it. And there isn’t any in depth vehicle customisation like 4 but correct me if I’m wrong please
@@gitupmechavvy2569 You gotta remember its just the beta. Nearly all the customization is restricted
@@ForgeKid This. The fact everyone can have them makes it pretty balanced in my eyes. Half of my game is avoiding missiles cause everyone on top of that building has them equipped. If anything I think the range on those stingers shouldn't be that long.
I've honestly been performing better with helis than as infantry, so this felt right at home
thanks drew
Same dude same same
I canceled my pre-order.
See you on BF4, boys
Me too, played 10 hours. It's full of bugs, pilots are out of the vehicle and glitching and gunner seats/camera shaking like crazy.
Same here.
It's not a complete BF2042 helicopter experience if you don't fly into the tornado
@DARK KATACLYSM idk why not
@DARK KATACLYSM it's still beta though ain't it? So there you go
@DARK KATACLYSM I'm not sure you know what a beta version is
Heli SHOULD NOT be able to "hover" and move laterally like this, the physics are completely nerfed, making the skill gap lower, this is BF4 heli with training wheels for all the casuals....
Heli sweats were one of, if not the worst aspects of BF4, so I’m a little glad we are able to hover
@@boobyqueen you know that making the heli easier to use means more Heli kills right? how are u glad
@@dr.palsonp.h.d815 they're also weak as hell since one dumbfire rocket shot from an infantry will take out most little birds or severely cripple them.
@@jacob8858 as it was is bf3 and bf4
@@boobyqueen No, bad players like you that call good players doing things you can't do "sweats" is one of the worst aspects of videogames in general.
"MASTERING" lol, the heli is so casual this game compared to 4/3, mastering means flying it for a couple games
4 and 3 was easy aswell.
@@Doodlez777ur mom was also easy
@@dr.palsonp.h.d815 my guy, why are you so mad
@@Chupapimuñañœo I need a snickers
Yeah I feel that. Bf3 felt like you were actually in control, but if you messed up once you were dead. Bf4 had almost the same flying physics as bf3 but obviously a little easier in terms of gaining altitude and dodging things. Bf 2042 really felt as if everything was assisted and I was just along for the ride. it didn’t feel like there was weight behind the aircraft or any learning curve but I’m sure that can be fixed eventually.
I absolutely love watching a Little Bird streaking around like a demon like this video.
It's not just helis, being a secondary gunner on a ground vehicle also has horrible camera shake, even if the driver is not doing anything crazy. And yes, I turned Camera Shake to 0.
Drewski upload, monke brain neuron activation.
so hype, thank you for posting the heli clips
Posted this comment before he posted the video ...
Little bird perfect rework (in my opinion)
Buff mini gun velocity, damage and have them converge in one point
Make the rockets more effective on vehicles and destroying cover.
Those helis feel like drifting car-planes more than helis
could you rebind your controls?
When playing with my controller im trying to rebind the Left stick (its throttle up and down) and i cant rebind it to R2 & L2...and that sucks.
Same, only way I can fly. Couldn't see it in the control options. Hopefully final release they let you
@@Dabman007 you go to settings > key assignments > pilot and rebind it there, but when i rebind it buttons automaticlly get removed :/ but you can try
I’d love to see the flying mechanics get a bit more realistic
Pov 6 months later : nothing changed the game is dieing and you are one of the view Players left
I've noticed with all air units that flying low no longer makes you safe to radar locks. IDK if thats me or if that is how it works now. I know battlefield 3 and 4 had that feature in the game.
Yeah that's another massive step back and dumbing down of the game mechanics. BF3/4 had great skill based mechanics like below radar that rewarded skilled players that were capable of flying nap of the earth to avoid the unskilled lock-on spam that the game included. All that was thrown out the window in 2042, it's pathetic.
Ahhh, so now attack heli duos are going to dominate even more as surface-to-air lock-on missiles are practically useless against a decent pilot
Yeah
Yes but anybody can use the aa missile it’s not restricted to engie and also fun fact if you use certain guns like the lmg you can use ap rounds to do a decent amount of really easy damage
I imagine AA vehicles will make up for that. They're pretty damn fast and can keep up.
@@RedLancerMoto I've only been playing with the helicopters and I can say that even being a good pilot I get taken down super quick if I slip up. The fact that everyone can have the AA rocket launcher makes it really hard to deal with them. Also the AA vehicle can take you down within seconds and if positioned correctly like most things can cover and entire sector by themselves and I cant even fight them cause the dumb fire missiles don't do enough damage to take them head on. If I see an AA vehicle I just stay away from that place.
i think squads using ap LMGs and just shooting at them will the best way to shutdown good heli pilots if you really need too if your only looking at infantry
Looking at this, I really don’t like it. Arma and Squad have far more enjoyable-come-realistic mechanics, although I can imagine really enjoying being able to be a bit more aggressive with a helicopter. BF is changing
I wish there were more Helicopters on squad but it’s still so much fun
Itd be cool if every vehicle has their damage module… imagine shooting a panzerfaust at an apache or even the ka52 and took off its tail and it goes into a death spin…
it made by ea best they can do is a health bar
The game has to strive and achieve infantry-vehicles balance. If it doesn’t, it’s not a successful COD player grabber and sales go down. Realism? You would control the battlefield with an Apache 3 miles outside map bounds. The little birds would make mincemeat of infantry and the jet’s CANNONS would also obliterate any 360 noscoping infantryman running through the open fields while being able to engage and take out enemy planes/helicopters way outside visual range.
@@johnsmith-yj2cn that's why I don't play EA's military games
the third person zoom on the helicopters is the coolest most cinematic thing i’ve ever seen
I hate it. I wish it was locked to first person all the time.
With that simple feature, it shows that BF goes always with the new title in the wrong direction...
After rebinding my keybinds for the helicopter for the first time i could not turn left or right, depending on which command i bound first. I was not able to fly any helicopter for the entire Beta.
What keybindings do you have for flying? I hate how planes and helicopters have the same bindings
The heli physics seem extremely arcade like. I haven't played the game but it does seem kind of weird.
I love me some helicopter content :D So pleased to see the Apache is back baby!
Great vid dude
It's so arcady, almost COD level arcade. But for real the rockets are so damn slow. Rockets in general.
this game was made for 10 years old kids
In Battlefield 3, the RPG rockets are awfully slow
Yeah I think the last GOOD battlefield was 4.
@@TomP-148 BFV is the best BF game in many ways, including vehicle physics (ground vehicles and planes, at least since there are no choppers in it).
Use a tank in BFV then try a tank in BF2042, it's depressing how much worse tanks control in 2042 almost as if the developers just started from scratch
I had a blast mobbing around in the scout heli taking on infantry and other helis. But I felt that slight annoyance with the miniguns whenever I tried to strafe enemies on the ground. I'm hoping they will be at a better state on release.
BF4 helis are the goat... no changing my mind after seeing that horrible camera chase the game forces you through while flying one. They had it right years ago. Why change it? It's literally a "solution looking for a problem" type situation.
There is no camera chase.....thats what zooming in while in 3rd person does...if you dont hit zoom then its standard BF 3rd person
Haha if you say so..
I'm hoping on full release we can customize vehicle load outs, and make scout helis with different uses
just went 50-0 in the little bird i also kinda hope that the splash damage on the rockets was a bit more effective
How do you yaw left and right? Cant get keybinds to work, so not able to fly Heli's or jets
I think ur the first youtuber ive seen actually analyzing vehicles and real mechanics in the game so far and i’m pretty amazed. Excellent work bro.
I don't have any battlefield experience but would you say the controls are similar to arma helicopter controls ? 😅
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHHA HA AH HA *HELL NO*
I like using the Heli in the Beta, but I don't know why, I love using the Osprey, I just get my buddies in the turret, and we get on an objective, and just brrrrrrr everything on the ground with the miniguns and the 40mm
Talking about the little bird mini guns reminded me of Batman- Michael Keaton version. When he was shooting at the joker and the bullets went on either side of him. Lol
I'd be that guy to follow a helicopter kicking my ass all game with stingers and javelin locks all game purely out of spite. Hope the lock on range of soflam is further since the maps are much larger in this iteration.
I can't get my settings done in this game. Was pretty decent with Bf4 helis. Can't fly this thing at all now
Jet pilots are gonna have their hands full in dealing with helis on these huge maps
The weaponry in this game doesnt feel too good, the missiles suck and the actual guns seem to do no damage.
You could dodge similarly in bf3 because of the turning radius of the missile. The locks behaved a little different from pc and xbox I noticed, like you could afterburn away on pc and the missle would just burn out after awhile but not on xbox. But to dodge a stinger on a hill while in an air vehicle, just flying at where it was fired with a bit of an angle, and the missile will pass by you and miss. It seems pretty similar to this, though I haven't played enough to know for sure the radius and how different it is.
I love helicopters in Battlefield...but the bindings in this beta are screwed up! This was one of the things I wanted to try the most but it's just not enjoyable right now
One of the biggest things I took from this is that a knowledgeable crackhead in a scout heli is OP
They are players against 99% garbage players though
in the very first clip, how is he moving horizontally even though hes looking straight forward? i thought you have to be looking at a downward angle in order to not gain altitude?
10:42 why is there no I-beam as it is in BF3? How do you aim with rockets?
I'm having issue setting my key binds for both yaw pitches. Its annoying because there both set to move mouse left/right, yet only one works. does anyone have any tips for me. thank you! ON Mouse and keyboard.
same. this beta is ridiculous
Flying feels so much more casual in this game. Also, not sure if it’s a bug but it feels like gravity doesn’t really exist in the heli’s and I have to fight to get to the ground
It is pretty hard to land and just go forward without going miles in the sky
Being able to out maneuver lock-on / heatseeking missiles is a very nice change. In Battlefield 3/4, once a missile is locked onto you, you either use your counter-measures or fly as far as possible out of the enemy's range. Passive radar is honestly the most annoying upgrade since you literally have 1-2 seconds to react and dump your flares when you hear the warning beeps.
Great outline. I was hoping for a Settings step by step. I'm guessing because it's beta they combined Fixed Wing with the Helicopter. Kind of annoying. I'm having a lot of issues trying to fly, heh. This is complicated with the fact that people like to fly with you and as I'm trying to learn, I'm getting my teammates killed.
How do you feel about the control layout for mouse and keyboard? I constantly found I was trying to mouse right to Yaw right, but it would then Roll right - it made more sense to me to have a "Legacy" control layout where the mouse controls Yaw left/right and Pitch up/down and WASD controlled Throttle and Roll - like it does while you're infantry (only you replace strafing with rolling between the two), this means less in terms of having to re-train your muscle memory. I have the same issue for most flying games really (I don't have a HOTAS setup fwiw).
But binding it for such during the beta didn't work - it would only allow me to spin in one direction as it seems to have only recognised the last re-bind done for Yaw. That and there's a disadvantage here in that if you need to constantly spin around an objective, you've gotta continually lift your mouse and re-place it to continue the left to right (or vice versa) movement.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on such (I'd definitely watch a video on the subject ;) ) and not specific to Battlefield for that matter as the same logic could apply to many games with flying. D you feel it's better to re-train your muscle memory for the default vs. using a "Legacy Layout" and dealing with having to lift your mouse vs. a third option that may not be apparent to me just yet...
do you have a video of the settings and controls you were using for kb/m on helos for this video? thanks boss
dude some of the aa missiles will literally fly around the aricraft in circles until the flares disappear and then blow you up. super broken.
With the neft to movement for helicopters, do you feel like they are an even easier target for decent jet pilots than in BF4?
I like the fact there is a skill/timing aspect to AA missile evasion now
There always was in bf4/3?
@@gunnerwilliamsofficial6942 no?
btw, if youre having trouble circling make sure youre using your roll AND (most importantly) pitch. its difficult at first but try circling using all your flight controls it is a lot faster especially for just turning.
Imagine being an infantry watching that sick gmeplay from the ground
BF 2042 looks like another step in the COD-direction for BF. So, a step in the wrong direction.
I'm so relieved to see fluent helicopter gameplay. Everyone else I've seen literally treats the heli like a boat if they even know how to fly. And it looked very clunky, but seeing this it looks as good as BF4's heli movement, maybe smoother.
"smoother" is more like "extremely easy to fly". I.e. dumbed down for the Fortnite kids. It took me several days on the BF4 practice range to get my Heli keymapping just right to be able to be minimally effective with the Huey and the Littlebird. I jumped right into the little bird in 2042 and without any keymapping changes I can fly like a champ because the flight model is so arcade like. Zero skill IMO.
I've tried the beta, and they feel weird, like there is no inertia or weight. It is a lot more arcade than bf4/3, and aiming is more difficult because the heli reacts very fast to inputs. But even with all that weirdness going on they can be fun though, you can do some barrel rolls without falling straight to the ground like a rock. A thing that Drewski forgot to mention is that the copilot seat of the scout heli can spot targets for you and use something that i think is an ecm jammer. Also the machine guns are trash on infantry, they need to do something to them because they are very difficult to hit, you need to be very close and guess where of one the machine guns will shoot, and when you hit you get a lot of hitmarkers, they are frustrating to use
This feels NOTHING like BF4 helis. It's more like Warzone helis than BF4.
@OperatorDrewski when is the next stalker video? You've got me hooked on the game! 🤘💜
The 30mm canon is quite fun to play with, as long as you have a good pilot you can get some great games. Literally went 30/1 on my final match at the start of it (that one death was me accidentally jumping out.).
The stabilization of the attack chopper gunner is fine the main problem is it has almost no positive vertical travel so every time the pilot nose downs (the most common action) it pulls the gun and the camera with it and can get disorienting incredibly quickly. It also doesn’t help when the pilot doesn’t fly with this and mind and flys more like they would with the Night bird.
What is your settings for "3rd person view" when you play. I have trouble seeing the targets when I'm flying. May be because of my settings.
just out of curiosity, how do your control the helos in bf? mouse and wasd? or do you play with a gamepad?
A little known fact about the miniguns is that they shoot rather low in BF2042. this is because you're missing the gyro-sight that the helicopter should have and did have back in BF4
Just wonder how you manage to fly so "smoothly".
I have the yaw axis bind on horizontal mouse axis ( Arma things...) and in the beta of 2042 i m just unable to make it work ( right it works but not for left yaw).
I know this is older but I really want to know if you're able to use a flight ✈ stick for BF2042 with a console? I saw you have a Xbox. I only have a PS4. I saw the video of your VIRPLE set up. Thanks
Is there any way to change the controls back to BF4 controls?
It also helps if the keybinds don't entirely break when you try to rebind them
I found that the helicopters didn’t feel like they had weight to them compared to BF4 you really had to have you head on to control them compared to this were it feels too easy and unrealistic
Yep it sucks now. Sadly.
What about the transport VTOL's? Did they include that in the beta?
So what your saying is they fixed the flight model?
And then fucked it up more?
I'm so disappointed in the helicopters in bf2042, they basically fly themselves now it seems like it takes zero skill. I was able to hold the little bird in a almost 90 degree angle for like 45 seconds without it doing the usual dive to the ground.
Same dude big big fan on piloting in these always have been, looking forward to it can’t wait.
Can we do a barrel roll or loop in helis like in BF4? Or is the controls like the BFV battle royal heli?
Are you able to connect a joystick and have the game pick it up? I tried using my thrustmaster joystick and it didn't get picked up at all.
I have a big question do you use keyboard and mous for piloting in battlefield 2042 or something else and what is it?
4:00 that heli flies awkwardly, like wiggles a lot
dope informative vid drew i learned a lot!
Yo drew, how are you feeling about the DCS Apache module?
I reconfigured my controller so that the triggers control elevation, the left stick controls roll only, and the right stick controls pitch and yaw.
You don't get any server lag from just being a beta? Also how do you change squads and switch teams?
They're OP. Insanely hard to shoot down
The terrain and architecture in this map looks like ghost recon breakpoint...
what happened to your screen on 3:40?
Been winning quite a few dog fights over on old gen with both the little bird and KA-50.
KA-50’s defeated: 3
Little bird’s defeated: 6
I hab a bug yesterday while deploying and it let me choose one of the soldiers from bf3. When i spawned i still was one of the specialists but still interesting because the soldiers had the fitting symbols of their class.
Drew are you using default mouse and keyboard controls???
what are the recommended control settings for helos? mine steers like a torpedo.
2:49 Jamming the WEZ 😁
Drew, are you flying with your virpil? Or controller?
Hey I saw your video on our flying setup and I thought it was awesome!! Where is the email for Virpil so I can get in contact with them??
What are your keybinds for helis...I suck with m&k but am good with controller So I have to pick up my controller just to fly
Ive gotten a couple of 100 kill flyouts with the Apache, and my friend who was gunning was able to shoot just fine
Theres proplem when i try to fly up the Aim goes up too so its hard to aim untill you be stable on the sky