Oh god this makes it so much better. I’m not doing plumbing for a business yet but I’m learning and just for learning this makes an enormous difference
Nice set up, but I'm looking for some type of gauge to measure the loudness of the sound. Some leak detectors show the measurement of sound so your ears don't lie. You can follow the pipe direction with a locator and check for the highest measurement of sound to pinpoint the loudest area.
I completely agree. I have a system from "General" and it has let me down more than once. You need a gauge. End of story! By the way, have you found a good system yet?
I've never used air for leak location. I'm a service plumber now (5 years working as a leak location specialist for a municipality) so my water lines have pressurized water. Have I seen a better set for slab leaks? Absolutely without question I have. That is the largest I've ever seen.. Even the 30,000 corrulator was half that size you have. The HL 50-BT Acoustic Water Leak Locator is smaller than a brief case..... Just locate your lines. Locating them will take 4 times longer than finding the slab leak. Seriously I can't get over how big that is and also the hyper tough (super cheap stuff literally a Walmart brand) inflator. If I see low quality tools there is no way I'd buy it.
What do you recommend? I’ve been looking around but are all overpriced for what they are. I’v been looking into Sewerin but has a heavy tag price of $15,000. Any recommendations on what and where. 🇦🇺
The problems I see immediately are that I dont see a floor plate, just probe. Pressurizing lines are to amplify the sound of the leak, which requires a holding tank. If you pressurize the line using a compressor, the ambient sound will drown out the sound heard through the equipment. Busy roads cause this, too. Lack of a decibel meter and audio adjustments make this seem like a step up from a stethoscope. If youve used more expensive equipment, the price of $3k makes sense as each probe isn't worth more than $1.5k Guys, the typically slab leak repair costs between $6k to $20k. If you do 1-2 jobs that will cover the cost of much better equipment.
Hey I have a few questions 1-how far will the remote work from air compressor. 2- will the air compressor make enough noise in pipe to locate a pvc yard line? Thx in advance 🫡
I wish that would work where I am in New York. Our mains are 6 feet down and don't see how that would penetrate flooring , slab with rebar, the one foot of earth on top of piping. Does any one use thermal imaging? Best method I found is finding a hot spot via infrared thermometers or thermal Imaging guns
Roger, thank you so much for uploading such simple but vital info to my cerebral cortex, been plumbing for 7 years (2 as a journeyman) and never had the chance to do service on the regular til now that im trying to branch off on my own and this is definitely a huge notch to have on the plumbing services belt.
I love service, it's always interesting. I really like old buildings but you have to take your time and be careful and the money is there. If you can work to preserve the old stuff and put in new plumbing you will have no shortage of customers. Avoid the ones who want bids, I still haven't developed good X-Ray vision to do that. It's easy enough to sell your time and that helps you not get screwed and it helps your customer because you won't have to cut corners. Also, the #1 thing my customers want second only to working plumbing, is a totally cleaned jobsite when you walk out. No boot prints, no shit on walls and no dust on pictures.
Roger, thank you once again for some great knowledge. This is definitely a tool I would love to add to my business when I start soon. I’ve wondered how I could learn how to use this equipment since the company I work for doesn’t offer it. Any idea where I can learn how to use this tool efficiently? Thank you!!
Kinda looks great due to no dangling amplifier on your body , but kinda bulky specially for the side kick (which looks like a jack hammer). It may be good if the stick is collapsible to avoid bending over time, the audio of the equipment looks good but i think its lacking more of functions.
Hey Roger, I've been plumbing since '95 and I've gone plumbing with my dad since '75. I ran across something very strange yesterday and I can't find any information on it. We had a residential job, and some strange 3/4 copper was used with white text for water. Unfortunately enough had been rubbed off in line that I couldn't make out the type text. There was the word "SERVICE" but that's all I could make out. It has the thickness of M and I even took a stub out into the sun to make sure it wasn't just faded yellow. I have seen copper gas line but this doesn't seem to match that. I'm only saying that because some person many years ago actually tied this very same white text copper to an abandon black gas pipe to run a spigot through a crawl space. Obviously none of this meets code, but I've never seen white text copper tubing and I can't find any reference to it. Most of my work is repair/refit in buildings as old as 1880's so I see a lot of non standard stuff. This tubing was a full 20' and it's full 5/8 diameter and I was able to solder a 90 to it perfectly and it definitely was not Bundy tubing. If you have any ideas I'd love to hear.
As a leak detective…if I saw you pull that out, I would laugh. You would be much better with a gen ear. But the “big boxes” (which funny enough this is bigger than anything I’ve ever brought into a home) with the wires have far more audiology engineered where you can control frequencies gains and so much more. This video is going to have plumbers popping holes in slab concrete with no pipe anywhere near. If you want a system that is similar then use a gen ear. It’s smaller and user friendly. But again plumbers are not leak detectives. It’s why leak detection companies rarely hire plumbers because they feel they know more than us….but a plumber will hire a leak detective immediately.
@@Angelo87653 the Gen Ear is what I was trained on and proficient with when I first started. I switched companies and now work for American Leak Detection which we have our leak locators made in house and don’t sell them. But there are systems that can get relatively close to what we use. Type in “Sherwin leak detector” they get pretty close to what I use on the daily. But if you’re looking for something like described in the video. Compact, professional, and “not a lot of wires” (which really there should be two wires with every locator. One for your probe/puck. And one for your headphones….thats it.) then go with a gen ear. Get good at doing point checks on all fixtures. Learn what a leak sounds like with no air just water. Add just air no water. Then try a mixture of both. That’s the best advice I could give in a TH-cam comment section 😂
Pools? Nah. It was made for municipalities. Each ones will likely have thousands of miles of pipe that leaks way more often than a pool. That's where the money is for these companies. Government doesn't care as much about the price.
18 years owning my shop. Lemme include you in the expenses First the locator needs to know path. Then he’s likely gonna ask that a plumber come in and add valves every 100’. These guys can’t show up and wave a magic wand pointing to water line. So an experienced plumber can then find the leak with some patience. These devices are great for training 18 year olds how to follow a beep and look expensive. But that plumber that comes out to install valves will likely find it. In the 1000’s under ground service I’ve found and repaired, the leak was either at the meter or the house foundation penetration. Or any other solid structure making the line non flexible. If you get leaks in middle of line ? Replace it. Not worth the locator expense and single repair. These devices are wonderful once you figure them out. But we used mine 4/5 times to show the new guys. But once they talk to leak locate and find out the charge of $450 per hour 2 way trip payment. And they are an hour drive out. I can do a lot of impressive stuff for $900. Then they tell you to add a valve every 100’ and mark the expected path of water line. So my locator has become buried in the gimmicks and forgotten about. I use a blow plug to introduce air into system. You can feel the bubbles like a chocolate milkshake rubbling. And if your adding valves and marking line. FIND THE LEAK! Spend your clients money wisely and they will buy your dinner every time they see your family at dinner. Bet me.
Owning a Guitar does not make you a Musician. I have owned a Leak Detection Company for 35 years and I am the guy the Plumbers call after they missed the mark and tore the place up. You guys stick to Plumbing, I'll stick to Leak Detection and along with an occasional Engineer we can work together to help the property owner.
Congratulations. Personal opinion, such equipment will be inconvenient and ineffective to use! Large sizes, sensitivity along the rod will be low, devices without noise level indication and filters... The compressor has low power! I do not understand a little, how can such a thing be offered for use at all?!
To say this is the best system out there is a mild exaggeration at best. Man, this thing is really lacking. Trying to hold that 4 foot long pin on something without any movement? The remote control for the compressor is novel and necessary, that compressor itself is so damn noisy. You couldn’t hear anything when it’s on.
Equipment looks outdated. For $2,995.00 that’s a waste of money. You have no amplifier, non frequency, sensitive function button. I would say this is not beginner friendly. Leaktronics has a better user friendly kit or subsurface unit.
You can use any air compressor…we didn’t manufacture that but wanted to include one in the kit. The probe and the sidekick and headphones we made in house which are the main tools. Everything is quality…
I have been doing only leak detection for almost five years now, I started off at a mom-and-pop and now work for the largest leak detection company in the country. Never in my career have we poached from a plumber, in fact it doesn't make much Financial sense when you consider how much business comes from plumbers referrals. I love your content and watch all the time, but leak detection is not a hobby, you will always be better off with somebody who does this all day everyday. I'm sure there are a few plumbing companies who could keep one or two technicians busy. But foremost plumbing companies, even most large plumbing companies there is simply not enough work to keep even one technician Sharp. Leak detection is the perfect example of something that should be subbed out to a specialist.
We just invested in a Sewerin setup and I think it is far better than what you posit.
Which model did you get?
What sewerin model how's it working
Sales pitch he’s selling the stuff
Oh god this makes it so much better. I’m not doing plumbing for a business yet but I’m learning and just for learning this makes an enormous difference
Nice set up, but I'm looking for some type of gauge to measure the loudness of the sound. Some leak detectors show the measurement of sound so your ears don't lie. You can follow the pipe direction with a locator and check for the highest measurement of sound to pinpoint the loudest area.
I completely agree. I have a system from "General" and it has let me down more than once. You need a gauge. End of story! By the way, have you found a good system yet?
Hey can u send me the name machine leak water detector thanks..
check out Sewerin leak detection
@roger does this replace a gas leak detector or do I still need one?
Video idea - Compare US plumbing to other countries such as the UK and/or European countries. Love the channel!
is the audio jack under warranty?
The machine has no gauge?
I've never used air for leak location. I'm a service plumber now (5 years working as a leak location specialist for a municipality) so my water lines have pressurized water. Have I seen a better set for slab leaks? Absolutely without question I have. That is the largest I've ever seen.. Even the 30,000 corrulator was half that size you have. The HL 50-BT Acoustic Water Leak Locator is smaller than a brief case..... Just locate your lines. Locating them will take 4 times longer than finding the slab leak.
Seriously I can't get over how big that is and also the hyper tough (super cheap stuff literally a Walmart brand) inflator. If I see low quality tools there is no way I'd buy it.
I agree I use genear le , portion of size and probably cost and gets job done . Even has an adapter to hook up more pressure to line
I mostly use a stethescope even though I can't spel it.
@isiaac5715 I miss that mic, by far the best and most compact solution.
@@DoctorMangler the brass cylinders? We always called them coconuts for whatever reason.
What do you recommend? I’ve been looking around but are all overpriced for what they are. I’v been looking into Sewerin but has a heavy tag price of $15,000. Any recommendations on what and where. 🇦🇺
It would be nice if it had some sort of a thumper device to connect onto the hose bib so that you can find a pipe in the ground
The problems I see immediately are that I dont see a floor plate, just probe. Pressurizing lines are to amplify the sound of the leak, which requires a holding tank. If you pressurize the line using a compressor, the ambient sound will drown out the sound heard through the equipment. Busy roads cause this, too. Lack of a decibel meter and audio adjustments make this seem like a step up from a stethoscope. If youve used more expensive equipment, the price of $3k makes sense as each probe isn't worth more than $1.5k
Guys, the typically slab leak repair costs between $6k to $20k. If you do 1-2 jobs that will cover the cost of much better equipment.
do you have recommended equipment?
Hey I have a few questions 1-how far will the remote work from air compressor. 2- will the air compressor make enough noise in pipe to locate a pvc yard line? Thx in advance 🫡
Where is the link to purchase this?
www.leak-pro.com
seriously, buying this now. Thanks Roger.
I wish that would work where I am in New York.
Our mains are 6 feet down and don't see how that would penetrate flooring , slab with rebar, the one foot of earth on top of piping. Does any one use thermal imaging? Best method I found is finding a hot spot via infrared thermometers or thermal Imaging guns
Flir cameras. You need both.
Between this kit and leaktronics, which honestly works best?
Honestly? Leak-Pro....but Leaktronics is great too...
I really appreciate your honesty will be purchasing leak pro. Cant wait to use it.
what license do I need to perform leak detection work?
You dont need it as long as the work is under 500 in cali.
Hey.. how much this leak water detector..?
Visit www.leak-pro.com for pricing and shipping costs
I may not be a plumber but hack man you help me understand a lot of stuff. and that why I'm happy to say that I'm Channel.
Thanks for showing your support and watching my videos I appreciate it!
where do i look for this Leak Pro
www.leak-pro.com
Roger, thank you so much for uploading such simple but vital info to my cerebral cortex, been plumbing for 7 years (2 as a journeyman) and never had the chance to do service on the regular til now that im trying to branch off on my own and this is definitely a huge notch to have on the plumbing services belt.
I’m glad I could serve your cerebral cortex with some knowledge brother 👍🏼
I love service, it's always interesting. I really like old buildings but you have to take your time and be careful and the money is there. If you can work to preserve the old stuff and put in new plumbing you will have no shortage of customers. Avoid the ones who want bids, I still haven't developed good X-Ray vision to do that. It's easy enough to sell your time and that helps you not get screwed and it helps your customer because you won't have to cut corners. Also, the #1 thing my customers want second only to working plumbing, is a totally cleaned jobsite when you walk out. No boot prints, no shit on walls and no dust on pictures.
Heck yeah that's awesome bud 👍
Roger, thank you once again for some great knowledge. This is definitely a tool I would love to add to my business when I start soon. I’ve wondered how I could learn how to use this equipment since the company I work for doesn’t offer it. Any idea where I can learn how to use this tool efficiently? Thank you!!
I know exactly where you can learn! 🧠 visit www.leak-pro.com there is a training tab where you can find more information
do you have a promo code?
You might want to skip that set.
Necesito ese equipo cuanto vale
Roger do you own this company?
I do
Kinda looks great due to no dangling amplifier on your body , but kinda bulky specially for the side kick (which looks like a jack hammer). It may be good if the stick is collapsible to avoid bending over time, the audio of the equipment looks good but i think its lacking more of functions.
I appreciate the feedback, what other functions would you like to see?
A gauge to measure the sound would be nice.@@RogerWakefield
this doesn't look like it works on concrete floor where is the cup for use on concrete
It does work on concrete
Link please
www.leak-pro.com
I have gen ear le . A quarter of size . Probably price and does same thing .
Do you like the gen ear? Is it worth the money? I was looking at getting one soon.
Roger I need you to sign off on my hours, I’m not an apprentice yet but I’m laying pipe
Hey Roger, I've been plumbing since '95 and I've gone plumbing with my dad since '75. I ran across something very strange yesterday and I can't find any information on it. We had a residential job, and some strange 3/4 copper was used with white text for water. Unfortunately enough had been rubbed off in line that I couldn't make out the type text. There was the word "SERVICE" but that's all I could make out. It has the thickness of M and I even took a stub out into the sun to make sure it wasn't just faded yellow. I have seen copper gas line but this doesn't seem to match that. I'm only saying that because some person many years ago actually tied this very same white text copper to an abandon black gas pipe to run a spigot through a crawl space. Obviously none of this meets code, but I've never seen white text copper tubing and I can't find any reference to it. Most of my work is repair/refit in buildings as old as 1880's so I see a lot of non standard stuff. This tubing was a full 20' and it's full 5/8 diameter and I was able to solder a 90 to it perfectly and it definitely was not Bundy tubing. If you have any ideas I'd love to hear.
Maybe ACR pipe?
As a leak detective…if I saw you pull that out, I would laugh. You would be much better with a gen ear. But the “big boxes” (which funny enough this is bigger than anything I’ve ever brought into a home) with the wires have far more audiology engineered where you can control frequencies gains and so much more.
This video is going to have plumbers popping holes in slab concrete with no pipe anywhere near. If you want a system that is similar then use a gen ear. It’s smaller and user friendly. But again plumbers are not leak detectives.
It’s why leak detection companies rarely hire plumbers because they feel they know more than us….but a plumber will hire a leak detective immediately.
well do you have any recommendations?
@@Angelo87653 the Gen Ear is what I was trained on and proficient with when I first started. I switched companies and now work for American Leak Detection which we have our leak locators made in house and don’t sell them. But there are systems that can get relatively close to what we use. Type in “Sherwin leak detector” they get pretty close to what I use on the daily.
But if you’re looking for something like described in the video. Compact, professional, and “not a lot of wires” (which really there should be two wires with every locator. One for your probe/puck. And one for your headphones….thats it.) then go with a gen ear. Get good at doing point checks on all fixtures. Learn what a leak sounds like with no air just water. Add just air no water. Then try a mixture of both. That’s the best advice I could give in a TH-cam comment section 😂
Learn to use tracer gas to find broken pipes, you'll have a revelation
Pools? Nah. It was made for municipalities. Each ones will likely have thousands of miles of pipe that leaks way more often than a pool. That's where the money is for these companies. Government doesn't care as much about the price.
18 years owning my shop. Lemme include you in the expenses
First the locator needs to know path. Then he’s likely gonna ask that a plumber come in and add valves every 100’. These guys can’t show up and wave a magic wand pointing to water line. So an experienced plumber can then find the leak with some patience. These devices are great for training 18 year olds how to follow a beep and look expensive. But that plumber that comes out to install valves will likely find it. In the 1000’s under ground service I’ve found and repaired, the leak was either at the meter or the house foundation penetration. Or any other solid structure making the line non flexible. If you get leaks in middle of line ? Replace it. Not worth the locator expense and single repair. These devices are wonderful once you figure them out. But we used mine 4/5 times to show the new guys. But once they talk to leak locate and find out the charge of $450 per hour 2 way trip payment. And they are an hour drive out. I can do a lot of impressive stuff for $900. Then they tell you to add a valve every 100’ and mark the expected path of water line. So my locator has become buried in the gimmicks and forgotten about. I use a blow plug to introduce air into system. You can feel the bubbles like a chocolate milkshake rubbling. And if your adding valves and marking line. FIND THE LEAK! Spend your clients money wisely and they will buy your dinner every time they see your family at dinner. Bet me.
Owning a Guitar does not make you a Musician. I have owned a Leak Detection Company for 35 years and I am the guy the Plumbers call after they missed the mark and tore the place up. You guys stick to Plumbing, I'll stick to Leak Detection and along with an occasional Engineer we can work together to help the property owner.
Why don't you think I'm allowed to have a leak detection company? Have you used any of the equipment?
Congratulations. Personal opinion, such equipment will be inconvenient and ineffective to use! Large sizes, sensitivity along the rod will be low, devices without noise level indication and filters... The compressor has low power! I do not understand a little, how can such a thing be offered for use at all?!
To say this is the best system out there is a mild exaggeration at best. Man, this thing is really lacking. Trying to hold that 4 foot long pin on something without any movement? The remote control for the compressor is novel and necessary, that compressor itself is so damn noisy. You couldn’t hear anything when it’s on.
Equipment looks outdated. For $2,995.00 that’s a waste of money. You have no amplifier, non frequency, sensitive function button. I would say this is not beginner friendly. Leaktronics has a better user friendly kit or subsurface unit.
$5,000 instrument and comes with a Walmart air compressor lol
You can use any air compressor…we didn’t manufacture that but wanted to include one in the kit. The probe and the sidekick and headphones we made in house which are the main tools. Everything is quality…
Where are the geophones to listen to the slab? You just can’t find the leak by listening to the fixtures… you have to be 100% spot on…. Soooo?
Don’t need a geophone…you’re listening to more than just fixtures to locate the leak. Which is what the probe is for…we offer training
@@RogerWakefield the probe works on top of the slab ?
@@cortez1638 absolutely…
You're never going to get clean sound using the probe on the ground. You need a slab mic that's placed on the floor.
@@CameronPrescott that’s funny. We’ve done it for years…
Leakpro sidekick $3000
I have been doing only leak detection for almost five years now, I started off at a mom-and-pop and now work for the largest leak detection company in the country. Never in my career have we poached from a plumber, in fact it doesn't make much Financial sense when you consider how much business comes from plumbers referrals. I love your content and watch all the time, but leak detection is not a hobby, you will always be better off with somebody who does this all day everyday. I'm sure there are a few plumbing companies who could keep one or two technicians busy. But foremost plumbing companies, even most large plumbing companies there is simply not enough work to keep even one technician Sharp. Leak detection is the perfect example of something that should be subbed out to a specialist.
Hvor skifter man til "dansk"
This is so sad, people buy castles in the sky.
You only need a good termal camera 😉
that wont tell u where the cold leak is.
Little biased due to it being your equipment
I bought it because it was the best!!!!
All else fails.
Nice guitar hard case😂
👍
Another commercial masquerading as an honest review.
This is junk
Why do you think that? Do you own one?
How much
Visit www.leak-pro.com