Is it possible to spin the last gear? (1:65000 gear ratio)
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Episode 5 - Is it possible to spin the last gear? Why?
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bro I just want one video where they go ham on the big gear and make the little gear go supersonic
The PLA or ABS or whatever plastic used won't be able to hold that much torque so it will break, I guess you can do that with steel gears
link please? would love to see some little thing rotating at literal mach speeds!
we are gonna need a shit ton of torque
@@niggacockball7995 mount a ship engine to it. They should have some torque
@@fishtail2616 or a train engine
“I’ll use mass because it’s easier to visualize.”
Proceeds to use ounces, which is the hardest unit to relate to for the rest of the world
hahah American / British units are.... interesting.... to say the least!
@@3DPrinterAcademy Just use normal/real units like grams
The more confusing part is the 30 gram ounce he was using.
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OK, but now I want to see you *attach a drill.*
He just said he could pick up a truck with the last gear
it would break first, possibly resulting in injury.
@@deltahat880 Probably not injury, but you have to agree that watching it break would be quite entertaining
@@marten2857 no more than breaking any other piece of plastic... the last wheel would just slip and snap of the teeth...
@@johnjon4688 wear some protection then
It would be amazing if you could just push the last gear as hard as you could and the first one flew off and sliced through the wall while the one you were pushing literally hasn’t moved
Figuratively hasn't moved. It literally has moved. Just saying
@@angelo9989 I know, I just mean you can’t see that it’s moved because the distance would be so insignificant
@@LilCheesyBean yeah I know, I was just being a dick 🤷🏻♂️
@@angelo9989 lmao
The things is actually you can spin the last gear. But with very very low speed. It requires high power when you want to rotate it with same speed of the first gear.
In theory you need same force for rotation the same one for last one
I know he just said I can't do it, but something in my brain is still saying it should be easy
He didn't even do it properly. He sort of started off well by turnign the gears in the beginning but then just gave up or something.
@@andrewwatts1997 the gears would break because they would spin so fast
@@pessinieminen4341 id rather see that then nothing at all boring ass video
@@voxx9449 it was probably boring because you are uneducated so hearing about mass and friction was “boring”
It would not be as the force required to rotate the last gear exceeds the maximum yield strength of the material the gear is made off. Meaning you would shear the teeth off the gear box before you could achieve any rotation.
torque seems like an added feature to stop easy energy exploits. smart of the devs to implement it!
Torque and RPM work proportional though. Torque does not in any way have anything to do with "energy exploits".
If we assume that friction does not exist for a moment. If he would turn the last gear with some X torque, the output gear would turn with x / 65k torque. Albeit turning very fast, it has next to zero torque.
That's also why heavy machinery doesn't go fast at all with massive amounts of wattage in their engines (a tank for example). It needs more torque and less rpm to be of any use.
@@Dennis19901 r/woooooooosh
@@droffilcc8800 he's explaining that it's not exploit patching, but instead a very well thought out physics engine
@@amb600cd0 ah, thanks for the clarification
@@droffilcc8800 the woosher has been wooshed
It's funny how this guy is trying to explain to us the physics of gears, and we're all just like "Ha ha! Gears go brrrr!"
Durrrr spin, spin weeeeeee!
XD XD XD
Dude spends the whole video explaining why he can't spin the last gear, top comments are all wanting him to spin the last gear.
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@@arabianprince7508 😂😂😂😂
I'm an engineer and I love experiments like these. I need to print those gears off and make my own. Great work! Thanks!
One of these days he's going to have a crazy gear ratio, that will literally create a black hole, when he spins the first gear.
I want to be there to see it
There's a guy on TH-cam who used Lego gears to create a googol:1 gear set.
i think you wanted to say the last gear , so the first gear will spin crazy fast for your blackhole ^^
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A version of this would be an excellent children’s toy! They’d love trying to spin the gears, watching the them spin, and trying to figure out how it works. There could be a marker on the final gear, so that you could see it move minutely by spinning the other gears.
I imagine there would be too much risk of injury with things getting caught in the gears
@@therussiannukekid1784 Transparent box with levers attached maybe? This seems really fun
@@gauthamarun3878 that would be a good fix.
All cool until the kids decide that it would be amusing to feed their little sister's hair into it.
@@gauthamarun3878 Levers on ever gear would still risk injury to toddlers as all levers could spin at high rates. Maybe a detachable lever to pick and choose which gear you want to spin?
It's also worth mentioning that if you could spin that final gear one rotation in a minute that your starting gear would be spinning 10-20 times faster that a power tool such as a drill.
Had absolutely zero idea gears worked like this and honestly my life is changed
Ratio
for example u had 1:2 gear and 1:3 gear, u will get 1:6 ratio if combined
Scientific engineering is a hell of a drug
There is no way the algorithm isn't picking this up.
It did for me
it has for me :)
well, it did for me
can confirm!
It's happening
Gotta love how he filmed it without having removed it from the build plate
Stable base
@@128ajb_02_Music ehh debatable
@@lunaticfpv17 No. It's more stable than if he just places it on the surface. 100% true, no doubts, *FACTS*
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t it may be stuck, but it isn't all that stable
@@lunaticfpv17 "it may be stuck, but it isn't all that stable" Think about what you just wrote. It is *stuck* to the surface but isn't stable? Will you also try to debate that water is wet, or what?
I’m just saying, we get some titanium, we put a lever on the last gear and put it under a hydraulic press.
That is the best bad idea I've heard in all day, I too like to live dangerously
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You’re not fooling anyone, Archimedes
@@arabianprince7508 wait what
gear teeth probably won't survive, but I'm digging the idea
A way I like to think about it after designing a few gear trains is as, as speed increases torque decreases. The power of a gear train is constant. For those who don’t know a gear trains purpose is to modify speed, or force but inevitably is going to do both.
The fact that you ran this whole demonstration with the housing still fused to the build plate is brilliant.
Good job my friend
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@@arabianprince7508 this is a 3D printing video
I can’t be the only one watching like “bet I can spin that” 😂
You aren't
i can spin the last gear rather easily, it would just take me a little time to get there.
even if this gear box was double what it is.
it would still be possible to spin the last gear.
Same.
I’ll attach my DD 16 engine. There’s no way it won’t spin.
it might be possible to spin the last gear if the gears dont break or deform from friction. my theory is that you start from one of the gears that is easy enough to spin but not too easy. then once you get up to speed, you move to another gear and you repeat.
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You explained this really well to us laymen. Thank you!
"I just want to see you spin the last gear fast"
This content is underrated
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Edit: 130k
This is actually getting tired.
Have you seen the youtube shorts tab yet? This content is OVERRATED.
Literally just 2 days man...
You meant to say undeveloped by view count.... But it's only a few days old... You ignorant sir Cold Soup.
Nobody likes cold soup, unless it's a Ocrosshka!
I just like seeing Gear contraptions like these, turn
It's oddly satisfying and calming
I would love to see him start spinning the first gear, then move to the second, then third, and so on until the entire system is spinning from force applied to the final gear. It should be just like shifting gears in a vehicle's transmission, right?
In theory, yes, but I think the construction would start vibrating and fall apart. Also the resistance would still be multiplied trough the gears so you would still need a lot of force
@@roose1346 Yes, I think as constructed, it would turn into multiple spinning, flying, gears of death and destruction lol, but I like theories. If the entire system was brought up to speed slowly, the inertia of the system should eventually be such that the motion of the final gear could be maintained with relatively little force. The only road block I see is the first gear would probably be close to the speed of light.
@@AndyMooreMusic ow jeah i didnt even think of that! Id love to try to get as fast as possible tho hahaha
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Can we just take a moment to notice that he filmed the entire video on his 3D printer build plate
good enough bed adhesion to hold the gearbox in place, didnt need to clamp it down haha
@@3DPrinterAcademy I’d be too afraid of putting that much pressure on it, did you have to relevel after?
@@coffeeandpie8181 hmm not sure, I usually check bed level at the start of every print, while the first layer is printing
@@3DPrinterAcademy - That is a thing i dont get it... i very rarely need to relevel my bed, using the same printer and i only print ABS with enclosure and ambient heating. Ambient temperature around 45ºC, bed 100ºC and nozzle 240ºC, to avoid any warp, its kinda of aggressive, but no problem yet.
@@brianfhunter I just make very minor adjustments, very quick (I never use a paper to level bed). 99% of the time its fine. Big knobs on Enders are super convenient
Compressed air against the first gear seems something I would like to see
I love when I get to see these kinds of videos in my recommendations
Would love to see a 1:65000 gear ratio hooked up to a 65000:1, so that it would be 1:1 on either side.
We need more of this it’s freaking awesome
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@@Bwong55 I do not particularly like 069
That’s why he’s in my belly
It's caused by the rotation inertia of the gears. For each couple of gears it is multiplied by (reduction)^2, giving the last gear an enormous inertia
Friction also factors in as well.
I think Its inertia in combination with friction. if there was no friction, I assume it would be possibe to spin the last gear but it would take a long time to accelerate
@@lilapela Each stage multiplies the total torque (friction + inertia) by the gear ratio. When run in the "normal" direction, the gear ratio helps overcome both friction and inertia. If there was no friction at all, it would still require 65000 times as much torque; possibly more than the plastic gear can stand without breaking. But I'm likewise pretty sure that if you had all the time in the world and none of the friction, it would eventually get moving under otherwise reasonable conditions.
Yes, inertia may be the biggest factor here.
Also, it is worth noting that speeds multiply by the same factor. If the last gear was spun so that it's outside moves at mere 1 cm/s, the first gear's outside would move at 650 m/s, almost twice the speed of sound.
I ain't no scientist but with a lever is it possible to turn the wheel
Thank you from the bottom of my heart and the 3D printer is extremely helpful. I understand .
I really liked this video. Very well presented.
2:44 "exponentially increases"
Thank you for the proper use of the term 'exponentially'
Haven’t been able to buy my own 3D printer yet, but I bought this gearbox cause I’m a big fan of your videos and thought it would be a nice desk piece until I can build this kind of thing myself. Keep making awesome content!
The gearbox is on its way! Thanks for the support!
I want to buy a printer... Do you think a 100 dollar printer would be good?
Couldn't you send the files of to somewhere to be printed for you
@@3DPrinterAcademy
How long would it take to get the last gear to rotate once?
@@xmo552 ~18 hours and 12 minutes roughly if you spin the first gear once per second. I think I did the maths correct, probably not since I'm me but can always hope.
Wow that was very helpful now I understand how gear ratio actual work 👍
Always fascinating to see how different forms of energy work.
When I was younger I actually tried to do this with Lego Technic gears but I couldn’t set them exactly right to go to ludicrous speed
You had no Schwartz?
I did that too, but with a power drill. Some parts of it are likely still in orbit.
@@XtreeM_FaiL I understood that reference!
@@XtreeM_FaiL Unfortunately, his schwartz got twisted. Hate it when that happens...
I did it and I went plaid
This was actually really fun to watch
if youre interested in this, you should check out pulley's, & how they make lifting heavy things easier
You could've put 65536 but instead you put 65000 in the title :(
Dude just hit gold when it comes to being picked up by the algorithm
This is awesome.
This also debunks a project i wanted to work on when i was a kid. i wanted to use a gearbox like that (probably with even more gears) conected to a pneumatic piston engine to run a generator and a air pump to keep the engine going and generate electricity. 8 year old me was definitely more creative than me now lol.
i’m actually surprised i found this video a few weeks ago before it blew up. congrats on being featured!
I’ve seen one of these where in order to rotate the final gear once it would take more than all the energy in the universe
Amazing video!
I love you’re build guides!
you're here?
I used to watch your tutorial videos for underground bases a long time ago. Kinda cool to find you randomly. I think one of the last videos of yours I saw was you talking about how you collect watches? How's that going?
Oh hello
TH-cam featured you in an ad
If it took 1N-M to turn the first gear, and you wanted to use a really long crank and your own weight to turn the last gear. If you weigh 150 lbs. you'd need an at least 97.5 meter-long (massless) crank which is about the length of a football field
haha, classic americanisms: describing length as football fields
(just poking fun. not meant to be rude :) )
I think your math is good, but he's talking about applying 30 grams (~0.3N) to the inner gear that has maybe a diameter of 15 cm (0.15m), leading to only needing 0.045 N-M of input torque.
You still need about a 4.5 meter long crank to back drive it which is silly for a 3D printed gear box, but not quite football field silly :D
@@DigitalOsmosis Yeah, I figured 1Nm of torque wasn't the minimum required to turn the first wheel, but I went with the assumption anyways because it still shows how impressive the gear ratio is 😗
so usain bolt could get the last gear spinning in 9.58 sec?
@@cate01a football is the biggest sport in the world
Man i miss my 3d printer. It broke down right before i moved and i didnt have space for it at the new place. Whenever i see one of these types of videos it reminds me all the cool stuff you can make with one
Interesting concept. I subscribed.
What if you spin the first one, then when its momentum increases, you begin spinning the next one, and as the energy in the system continues to increase, you keep going up to the last gear?
It seems to me like this would make things a lot easier.
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Part of the music
@@andricode i know, im not stupid.
Amazing video! Thanks a lot!
I know nothing about this but I find it interest idk why
Everyone who had Lego Mech as a kid definitely is passing by for these videos. I always tried to make induction gear boxes. Melted through blocks a few times:)
I used gears and a power drill to send to first LEGO brick to space.
@@fordprefect1587 don't tell anyone.
Over-unity is possible with gravity, gears and legos.
I love how everything in this video is in 4s even the time
Wait what do you mean
@Aaditya Yanamandra (ay4488) no it's 4:01
I know that it would've had no effect and it would've been a waste of time but you barely even tried to interact with the last gear. That is messing with my OCD.
I hate you for having such an amazing signature. Subscribed
A ton of people make this huge gear ratio thing and when people say, "spin the last gear" they just say "I can't." You are the first one that actually gave me an understandable explanation as to why.
This is the type of video when I realize that I am too stupid, at least I accept it. Great video btw
Amazing video !!! I don’t find anywhere some gears to try this at home, where can I buy them ? Do you sell them or something ?
If you spin up each gear individually moving up when it becomes easier you can spin the last one and make the first one go over 65,000 rpm
dude's print adhesion so good he can do it on his print bed
Umm... is yours NOT like that?
@@lunaticfpv17 not realy like after 3 min i can flick my parts off
I love how he did the while video with the base attached to the printer bed
This is cool, can you try using an air gun or something along those lines to try and turn the final gear and get some high speed cameras to record how fast the first gear is spinning?
You signed it on my birthday. May the 4th be with us
if the last gear spins very fast manually, the red gear’s going to spin more than hyperspeed, creating a space vortex
And maybe by shaping the first gear like a fan blade, you could create tornadoes ! 🌪🌪🌪🌪
I think it's more likely the mechanism would break
Would it be practical to jumpstart the last gear (or multiple gears) with a pull rope so that the resistance isn't so great?
Btw I love your videos and you are amazing with breaking this all down!!!
not really, without eletronics or a car
Ok I'm printing it at the moment, but 1 gear has taken 5 hours. I need 9 of them plus the base. Then just cut down some metal rod. So in about a week I will have my very own in ABS🙃
Very cool! To get faster prints I use: 0.8mm nozzles, and print at 0.32 layer height, and 70mm/s, (100% infill for these is fine because everything is thin) you can get a decent gear in 1 hour.
For the base I use a 1mm nozzle
i'm also printing them right now. One gear takes 1.30 hours. 0.4 nozzle, 0.2 layer height, 20% gyroid infill, 3 walls, outer wall 25mm/s, infill 55mm/s, inner wall 45mm/s
idea:find the gearbox with the biggest ratio you have ever made then spin it from the last gear and see how fast the first gear spins
Wow, this is really cool
As I saw a comment from a guy on another video like this one: "My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined"
This is amazing
Thanks for my engineering final project
Nice!
Great video!!!
I keep getting recommended these kinds of videos
idk why but i learn more by watching random vids like this hope to learn more my dud
This deserves a 24/7 live stream
Damn nice explanation..
i like to think about this kind of scenario for how gravity 'causes' time dilation. moving through higher gravity is like moving the gears that are farther down the line in that machine- it means that the gears with 'less gravity' are moving at higher and higher rates - meaning that more time is passing for THEM while you are 'spinning' your gear at the same pace
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A guy told me one day "give me a lever long enough and I will move the world", a gave him a very long lever and he never came back.
He’s busy moving the world. Haven’t you noticed that we have day and night now? That’s the guy....
Great video... I'm still waiting for someone to actually try to lift a truck with a gearbox like this, lol
These exist already. Google "Hand chain hoists".
It's a simple mechanism that allows you to lift, for instance ~4.500 kg (or 10.000 lbs) just by pulling a chain.
@@Dennis19901 Understood. I have 4 hoists of my own. I meant a plastic 3D printed model. lol
@@sky173 Well, in that case.
There's video's floating about on TH-cam of someone making hoist-like contraptions from Lego. It can lift quite a lot (given that it's Lego), but nothing even near 50kg's
I might be able to get up hills on my bike with this!
Or not, by the time your wheel actually spins enough to get up there, you will have slid down again or died of old age 🤣
It’s like the power reserve of a old clock. The weight drove the gearbox that automates the movement. It would be interesting to build a gearbox that uses a weight and a solar driven motor for power storage.
Pretty cool gear box.
If you were to hypothetically spin the last gear to complete one revolution, it would cause the first gear to spin at roughly 3.9 million RPM
surely you'd have to define how quickly you spun the last gear?
@@Kington99 you would indeed
Probably 1 revolution per second I guess?
@@Kington99 no, it does not matter as a speed was no defined, just a number of revolutions
@@nathanielbean3119;
exactly;
1 RPS = 60 RPM;
60RPM * 65000 = 3.9M RPM
That would require quite a bit of force.
What if like, the first gear is made out of steel to handle the force, then you attach a wrench or whatever to give leverage and you put that under a hydraulic press? The last gear would go nuts!!
At a certain amount of force, something will bend, break, or otherwise deform sooner than get that last gear spinning. In this case, I'd bet on the wrench bending or the housing for the gears deforming until a couple of the gears come uncoupled.
After all, even steel can only handle so much force.
@@peppermintgal4302 it can handle the weight of a truck
That’s so interesting I love this stuff 😃
this is actually really interesting, i wonder how you determine the factor by which it increases with each gear?
Relative diameters of interlocking gears when teeth are the same size. If you look, the gear teeth on the inner edge of one gear meshes with the gear teeth of the much larger outer edge of the next gear, so the first gear has to spin ~4 times to spin the next gear all the way around once.
Circumference is a linear factor of diameter (pi * diameter), so the ratio between gears is linear relative to the size of the gears, and the factor is merely [diameter of next gear/diameter of current gear] when measured at the location at which the gears are meshed.
In this case, the ring the outer teeth are set on is 4 times the diameter as that of the inner ring, so 4 times multiplier each set.
Technically it is really the number of TEETH on each gear, but since the size of the teeth here are the same, it works out the same way: there are 4 times as many teeth on the outer ring as on the inner ring, so you get the same 4 times multiplier.
@@Vertraic u cleared my doubt tnq
"Here's an ounce of silver to help you visualize..." Not what I think of when I use the word ounce, but sure.
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@@tuneboyz5634 *hits joint* good point
Here is a solution start by moving each gear slowly and greatly move to the second gear each time making it easier for you.
A fun thing with the friction is that the force doesn't increase with 65536x by the time we reach the last gear. That would require all intermediate gears to be frictionless, something they aren't.
If we assume that all gears have equal friction losses. Then our first gear needs a torque of 1 to move.
Our second needs to apply 4x that torque + 1 for its own resistance.
And our third gear needs 4x(4x(1)+1)+1 to move, and so forth.
This results in our last gear needing: 4x(4x(4x(4x(4x(4x(4x(4x(1)+1)+1)+1)+1)+1)+1)+1)+1 to move, or only 87381 times the force.
The net increase will steadily approach (1/y+1)x(y^(z-1)) as we add more gears. (z being the number of gears, and y being the gear ratio.)
But realistically friction losses aren't static, both axel and tooth pressure as well as surface speed ("RPM") and material does affect the resulting friction losses.
I've always thought about this and imagined what it would be like to do this
I wonder if we could reach the speed of light with a gear ratio much bigger than this
65536 ... oldskool programmers be like: "I know that number".
2^16
If there's one thing I know about gear ratio coming from Airsoft is that low ratio gears spin faster. I'm talking about Rita fire and the cyclic rate when they decide to make those upgrades people always bring up gear ratio. People rarely use high gear ratios anymore they just use high torque motors cuz you got to remember that it has to pull back a heavy spring to expel a projectile
This is so cool
"Spinning the last gear would break the gearbox" do it. break the gearbox
Could you maybe go down the line spinning each faster and faster so the next one is easier to start? Sort of using momentum in the place of weight as your force?
Good explanation of physics
This is good attachment for a Wimshurst Machine (electrostatic generator) in order to have more energy output with less effort to spin it.