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Actually, they were sanakadik rishis who cursed Jay and Vijay as the gate keepers didn't allow the kumaras to enter the vaikuntha and meet Narayan. Also, the choice given by Narayan was either 7 births as my devotees or 3 births as enemies. So, jay and Vijay decided to take 3 births as enemies as they will return to Vaikunth early as compared to taking 7 births and then returning to Vaikunth. Moreover, in Dwapar Yug, they took birth as Shishupal and Dantavakra, Kans was the rebirth of Kalanemi.
What if the evil people were good people in their earlier birth..and they were made to do bad things and as karma follows them thus in the next birth they were born as evil people.. Just like the movies ,all the characters cannot be good otherwise the movie will be boring like hell... And in movies, the more pain the protagonist suffers the more attached we become to him or her..and we want to see how he wins over the evil..same is the case with ramayan and Mahabharata...Lord Ram and the Pandavas suffered the most.. It is Vishnuji 's leela..
The person in the video is just conveying wrong information about our history, watched the whole episode too but most of his talk is just misinformation and contradictory. He himself is confused on many instances.
He is absolutely right about Indian obsession with White color.. Skin etc.. I am yet to find someone portraying Krishna as black.. All Krishna are fair.
Bro heard of Orissa Jaganath. We call him kaliya thakura ( the black lord) where as balram is pure white . And have you ever seen mahakal avatar or Maha kali is black . Kal bhairav is said syamkaye adidev ( black as night not human black)
@@terrifiedsmile3177depiction is important. You believe him to be evil because it is depicted to you from a long time back. the main issue is the storyteller wanted to depict the dravidians as demons.
Exactly, we in odisha call Lord Jagganath(krishna) as "kaliya thakura" which literally means "black God". And obviously everyone can just see he is black
@@vineethr5588 Lord Rama never told Lakshman to learn anything from that evil personality Ravana... This story is not even mentioned in the oldest original Valmiki Ramayana... एक सच्चा शिव भक्त कभी mass scales पे मर्डर और रेप नहीं करते। रावण के बारे में सच्चाई जानने के लिए कृपया प्रामाणिक वाल्मीकि रामायण पढ़ें। Ravana molested Vedavati who was engaged in penance to obtain Madhava as husband, she cursed that he and his family would be ruined by Lord Narayana on her account. Since he no longer feared gods because of the boon from Brahma, Ravana went on with his depredations. He raped Madanamanjari, wife of Rtuvarman, a tapasvi of Marutta forest, who cursed then that Ravana would be killed by a man. Finally, he raped his own would-be daughter-in-law, Rambha, betrothed to be wife of his nephew ‘Nalakubara’ s/o Kubera. Furious at this, Nalakubara pronounced this curse “You, who have become blind with lust, shall not touch a woman who does not reciprocate your love. If you do so your head will be split into seven pieces."
Rama and Ravana are yin and yang . Chinese have Ramayana and some philosophers explain Ramayana through Taoist concept which is Chinese vedism or ancient Hinduism same with Shinto and others
These epics are there for a reason If we keep our brain away from modern day non Sense and judgemental eyes Every single part and thing teaches us something and they all have significance of their own Why south differs is because it was less subjected to invasion or parts of it were always away from British rule so they kept ancient things alive Also i feel bad for loosing books in Nalanda and takshashila Can't imagine what got destroyed there or what actually was there I think that's where we lost everything we had It's the major disconnect and why we are not able to add and understand things
European invasion started in south india before north. specially kerala with the arrival of Portugese, followed by Dutch and British. If u go before the European colonial times south lands were pretty much unconquered. They were rich in resources and trade with arabs,greek and rome dating back to 2000bce, compared to North that faced invasions most of the time by central asian powers.
As long as we understand that Ravana was basically evil (greed, anger etc) and still revere him for his skills, thats fine. But there are only neglidgible amount of people like this. Majority are either dead against Ravana or making Ravana a hero. Always on the extremes. But here, to a certain extent its ok to be against Ravana completely because that was the plan of Leela where evil gets defeated. So Skills alone doesn't matter. One also needs to be good. That is the message we should learn from Ravana.
@@cmukherjee6692 I clearly explained it in brackets. By evil I meant greed, anger etc. And we have concept of Evil. Evil is not some ghost. It's all the gunas (characters) that makes one always stay in this samsara by gaining more Karma.
@@94srikanth Ravana molested Vedavati who was engaged in penance to obtain Madhava as husband, she cursed that he and his family would be ruined by Lord Narayana on her account. Since he no longer feared gods because of the boon from Brahma, Ravana went on with his depredations. He raped Madanamanjari, wife of Rtuvarman, a tapasvi of Marutta forest, who cursed then that Ravana would be killed by a man. Finally, he raped his own would-be daughter-in-law, Rambha, betrothed to be wife of his nephew ‘Nalakubara’ s/o Kubera. Furious at this, Nalakubara pronounced this curse “You, who have become blind with lust, shall not touch a woman who does not reciprocate your love. If you do so your head will be split into seven pieces."
@@cmukherjee6692 We do have the concept of evil... Ravana molested Vedavati who was engaged in penance to obtain Madhava as husband, she cursed that he and his family would be ruined by Lord Narayana on her account. Since he no longer feared gods because of the boon from Brahma, Ravana went on with his depredations. He raped Madanamanjari, wife of Rtuvarman, a tapasvi of Marutta forest, who cursed then that Ravana would be killed by a man. Finally, he raped his own would-be daughter-in-law, Rambha, betrothed to be wife of his nephew ‘Nalakubara’ s/o Kubera. Furious at this, Nalakubara pronounced this curse “You, who have become blind with lust, shall not touch a woman who does not reciprocate your love. If you do so your head will be split into seven pieces."
These are all stories born in the minds of great human minds, not history. That is why all these characters have all the human attributes, faculties and good and bad characteristics in them. The north Indians generally rebuke Asuras. But what about 'suras' eg; The deva of devas, Indra, has all the mischievous characteristics, jealousy, lust, anger etc., ( He had laid even the wives of many sages ). Despite this, majority of the people in India consider him as a good character.
No it's not. Ramayana and Mahabharata are our history and they did take place. Also,yes Indra many times fallen from his position because of his bad doings but still because he is a devotee of Krishna and Krishna take examples of his devotees to teach lessons to others . So one should trie to understand and apply teachings and morals that Krishna is trying to give through his devotees.
@@anjalipatel7053 in my opinion Ravan and indra are same Egoistic always isults Rishi or others And they both are womanisers Both these charecters are bad Atleast Ravan took good care of his Lanka people but in case of Indra he is not But only Ravan was killed not Indra Why Ravan is Rakshas and Indra is a God Why partiality? Many times Indra challenge ls Vishnu even Shiva too Still not punished
@@GamerOne_me Sir who told you that Ravana was a good king. Didn't you ask him/her proof or refrence from where he/she said so? What I know that in ARANYA-KAND Chapter 33 Supnakha(pls don't mind spelling),Ravana's sister critices him by saying that he was arrogant, evil-minded,short tempered,lusty etc. How can such a person be a good king??
@@anjalipatel7053 read my my comment again babe I said Srilankans believe Ravan was a good king not Indians Figure of speech You need just sense to understand In srilanka they have Ravan temples too in India also UP, kerala, somewhere near Noida there are Ravan temples In those villages they don't celebrate navaratri I never said he is good My question is why to punish only Ravan but let go Indra Both are same
Not surprised the guest stood for ravana with his own excuses. Being a dravidian or lankan most of the author’s vouch for Ravana as their king since he ruled lanka which actually he stole from his brother kubera. No doubt Ravana acquired many skills, knowledge and wisdom but he never ever used them for good deeds. Lynching is a very wrong word and it’s a bias towards north. As how dravidians sees ravana as their king the north too respects Ram as their king. Simply its the victory of good over the evil. True that Ravana is an incarnation of Jaya or Vijaya but every life is different and you have to suffer the consequences of karma of that particular life so you can’t refer anyone to their past life and say ohh he was so good in that life which is never applicable in karma siddhantha. He said Ram doesn’t want anything in life which again is a wrong statement. Ram sacrificed kingdom to keep his father’s word that’s it. After returning from lanka he ruled Ayodhya for 11k years.
North, South, stop the fu*king division....lol..as if we worship ravana here ....We also worship ram...🤦🤦🤦.....You are desperately trying to divide India like south indians as team of ravan and north as team of Ram ...🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
exactly.....and the dravidians had influences on south asian countries, so the good stories of Ravana being Sita's father & all good versions are created there
he had the IQ of 10 heads...easily the most intelligent person of all time ....even 100 of Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Newton, Tesla combined are no match for him
Jaya and Vijaya were given 2 choices;3 births as enemy and 7 births as devotees. Jaya and Vijaya chose 3 births as enemies as they don't want to stay away from Vishnu for 7 births.... 100 births is wrong
If we look at their numerology Personality numbers Ram is a 4 Reliable, honest and reserved, the number 4s are often a pillar of strength in various situations as people feel secure and trust their good judgement. SITA is personality number 3, the no.3s have the ability to attract people, either with outer or inner beauty. Their friendly and extrovert personality makes being around them an uplifting experience and many are drawn to their magnetic and charismatic influence. Ravanas personality no. is 9 They are charismatic, dignified and come across as having confidence in thier abilities and talents. They have a noble appearance and are very much in control of the image they wish to project. Many celebrities and public figures have this personality number.They have the ability to attract people and at the same time repel others. While many admire them, some are jealous and task themselves to belittle them due to their arrogance. Their challenge is to be humble and to try not to hold themself above everyone else.
I have a general querry. Where did writing come from Ravana?? Which language did he wrote as sanskrit was not present in accurate form back then as writing. Everything was mukhanisruta. As writing was invented in 3400BC in Sumer. So can anyone answer that
Not for nothing, Lord Ram orders Laxman to take his blessings and Lord Ram touches his feet and asks advise, Ravan says " Hope I had a lot of time as a friend" paraphrasing.
*@Smile Is Best medicine* So according to you, Tamilians are demóns? Because according to authentic scriptures, Ravana was a DEMÓN King, not human King.
@@jaydutta7711 There are no good or bad people here..!! It's all about how you see it .. Ravana is worshiped in Sri Lanka .. not only there Even in India .. So they are all bad people? ..Ravana is seen as bad only because he opposed Rama .. He (Ravana) did no harm to any people, during his reign they guided the country very well.. This alone is enough. To say whether Ravana is good or bad
@@whitecloud8324 what? Ravana raped so many women to the extent that he was cursed to die if he rapes a women again....that's the reason he couldn't force Sita maa...when will you all kids learn....read before commenting
i think its all just old school to think about good and evil . its about what message you get from these . thats why ramayan and mahabharat are called epics .
Ravana is a Great King of the ancient Lanka, Meganath is a son of him, both have good qualities and both of them are great warriors. Don't think that they both are villan.. As a Sri Lankan we still need the king Ravana.. ❤❤
Rawana the greate king in asia had neuclear weapons,had spiritual power, intelligence and love for his people in sri lanka.Rawana story was beried underneath by someone as he led ""hela "people in sri lanka now known as sinhala people
RAAVANA IS ALSO A GOD,.., I LOVE RAAVANA,.. Raavana was a great king,. He ruled Tamil peoples with Joy,.. Everyone one knows the god will won in the battle of God vs Human,.. Raavana was also knew that, but still he fighting for his motherland 🥲..... Lord Rama said, Raavana was the true brave warrior in the battle.... Raavana's Other names are : 1.Sivathaasan this name is given by his mom by his birth. (Sivathaasan which means someone is always present in Lord Shiva's leg, in other words, who one is always saying Lord Shiva's Name ) 2.Nilavazhagi Paandiyan (it is Raavana's name given by his mother) 3. RAAVANESHVAR or LANKESHVAR ( ishvar is a title given by lord Shiva,. It is soo tough to get, only some gods have this Ishvar title, some of the gods are Nandhishvar (lord Shiva's vehicle nandhi have the ishvar title) 2.SANEESHVAR ( saneeshvar was created by lord Shiva to giving karma for all humans and gods..).... and Raavana also have this ishavar Title,. RAAVANESHVAR OR LANKESHVAR..... He lost his Brothers, and one brother helped to lord Rama that is a big reason for Raavana's death... And he lost his son.. and he lost his beautifull Motherland... He lost everything,.. the funny thing is even god has takes more than 7 days to kill Raavaneshvar... This shows how Raavana's heroism.... Don't tell raavan was a evil , he kidnapped mother Sita,.. is not fair.. Raavana even didn't touched Sita,.. and you know He was a great Scholar in Ayurvedic medicine. He was the person who invented “Arka Shastra”. The book “Arka Prakshaya” reveals this truth to the present world. As his willing to research in Ayurvedic medicine he wrote several books revealing the cures for many diseases. In one book he wrote “Eating beef cause to infect ninety eight new diseases to human beings The book “Kumara Tantraya” which reveals the treatments for infant diseases was written by him accepting the request of his pregnant queen Mandodari He also composed Shiva tandav strotam,.. Some of the Raavana's medical books were still using in south tamilnadu and Srilanka... So don't tell Raavan was a demon,.he was not a bad person,,., OM NAMAH SHIVAYA, JAI SHREE RAM, JAI RAAVANESHVAR, OM JAI MAARUTI NAMAHA...
there is a lot of hidden secrets about tamil...do a video on KUMARI KANDAM...there is a tribe in africa speaking tamil (cameroon)... in tamil , temple is called "koil"...in slovakia temples are called "kostol"...and husband in slovakia is called "manjal" (its a tamil word)..if ur interested,,,kinda do some research on these...we want the truth to come out
I still have his book but i remember when i started reading it- its too much of focus on raavan nd always TRYING TO SHOW HIM as good and the one who is highly misunderstood nd the one who is always punished by others without any reason. This is too much opposite of what we have always read and understood since our childhood days. Its like a communist putting his idea in a childs brain. I rejected the book and stopped reading it only after some 20/30 pages. Wasted my money on buying this book
what he meant was Ravana as whole has had shades of grey (just like Krishna), his good qualities arent discussed (now of course we have social media/other authors ) but TV serials which we seen/re-run had made this impression of Good vs Evil etc which focusses on that part only rather his whole personality.
Ravana was the most powerful king in those days, not only great king he was the Great musician Great engineer Great doctor Great astrologist Great man Great husband Great brother He loved queen Mandodari very much. And also he loved his sister supernika and his stepbrother Vibishvana also. But his stepbrother helped to Rama to kill Ravan. I think this story is not a religious story, actually this is a political story. Because Ravan is the most powerful king in those days. And he ruled the most counties in area. So Vibishvana wanted to take his place and Rama wanted to rule that all area. So Rama wanted to creat a war. So they went that forest that ruled by Ravana’s sister Suparnika and he cut her nose. Because he know that Ravana loved his sister very much. War started and Vibishvana also supported to Rama. Monkey hanuman also supported and after killed him by cheating. After queen Mandodari became the ruler of area, so Vibishvana married queen Mandodari by cheating, and Rama became the ruler of area. Because Vibishvana is not a powerful ruler like rawan. Rama used his wife, Rawana’s stepbrother, laksman, and slave Hanumantha for it. After Valmiki converted this political story to religious story. After that South Indian kings tried to attack to Sri Lanka so many times due to this story. And Valmiki converted all books to his name that wrote by king rawan. Jay Sri Rawan…❤❤❤
Rapist is Rapist....Murderer is Murderer...Kidnapper is Kidnapper ....!! no matter if he was Rakshash, God, Ved Gyaani, Shiv bhakt ,Stupid, Coward or whatever. Rawan Kidnapped mother Sita when her man was not in house and that's enough for us to know about that coward. Some "Jaativadi" mindset stupids are barking using such platforms. Raja Ram chandra ki jai. 🙏
All the above is good, but last line is being stupid. What Jaativadi, when his other half is lowest category. Dispelling your Jaativaadi, it is that jaativaadi, who wrote this putting Jaativaadi as villain and SC, ST, OBC the Hanuman etc as supreme.
As a northeast person n plus i did ba in history i have never heard ram ravan or anyother hindu gods name in northeast we had our own god's so make sure u do ur studies well n bark here n there
his reasoning of Jaya and Vijaya's rebirth is also wrong, Vishnu gives them 2 choices 1. be born as my enemy for 3 births or 2. be born as my devotees for 6 births they say that they cannot bear to be away from him for a long tine so they agree for 3 births as enemy, I mean his reasoning is bit different.
@@python5827 I never watched Star plus till date,what ever knowledge I have is from my late grandfather(he followed Bhaskara Ramayana)who taught me these things and also from telugu mythological movies,may I know the reference of your Ramayana?
He is a Great Tamil king. He was big problem for inverders from north.Of course no Indians are accepted that.becouse if someone is in history of Tamils or from south India the north Indians start with coloring them black. And brand them as bad people. If you wanna understand that please read the entire history of India.
I was also intrigued by the new fact so though i fact check it, so i have seen others videos and read texts all points out on the fact that cursed was by four Kumars ( son's of Lord Brahma and devotess of lord vishnu ) and not by Durvasa as these gentleman stated. The kumar's weren' t allowed entry since they were in kid's form so the Jaya and Vijaya didn't allow them to meet their God. Hence, in anger they cursed both of them. Go on read it, watch it. do your own research and don't take my word for it.
When it comes to Ravana we look for geo location. When it comes to Ram we don't look for geo points but taking us through cyclic versions. Sharing knowledge and making one think is good but this doesn't serve that purpose. This rather imparts a one directional way of thinking into something non existence There are many examples such as relating "intelligence to devotion and directly calling it blind". These are just false accreditions of intelligence and trying to take away devotion.
Real things have hidden and wrong thoughts follow Some people bcs if have Purani things really but Translaters wanted to tell wrong things for their ways but real is very important for learn n good dharma...... God Rama and God Rawan had lived v beautifully in lives but people don't know real strory still bcs Original thing cant follow in lives bcs some person try to follow only their way but purani periods stories v different .It can search Original books but it has hidden too. Real still hs hidden.
*@Nethmi Navodya* What did you said, "God Rawan" ?? Since when Ravan become a god to you? Do you even know who he was? Ravana was 1% good and 99% evil and bad. A serial Rápist cannot be 90% good person. He was never better than the present days human beings.... एक सच्चा शिव भक्त कभी mass scales पे मर्डर और रेप नहीं करते। रावण के बारे में सच्चाई जानने के लिए कृपया प्रामाणिक वाल्मीकि रामायण पढ़ें। Ravana did tapas (PENANCE) and got a boon from Brahma that none but humans could kill him. Empowered by this boon, he took away Lanka and Pushpaka Vimana from his cousin Kubera, conquered many regions with the help of his family and even subjugated the devas. Marching north he reached Kailasa and threatened Nandi that he would throw Kailasa away with Siva. To carry out this threat he put his hands under the mountain, but Siva put his toe down, trapping Ravana’s hands under the Kailasa. His fingers painfully caught, Dashanana then sang songs praising Siva so loudly, that Siva gave him the name Ravana (which means crying or roaring) and the sword Chandrahasa. Puffed up by his success, powers and boons, Ravana turned into a bully, serial rapist and eve- teaser, misbehaving even with gods and rishis, earning eighteen curses in the process. It is because of these curses, that some of his atrocities are still known and remembered. The many rapes by Ravana When Ravana molested Vedavati who was engaged in penance to obtain Madhava as husband, she cursed that he and his family would be ruined by Lord Narayana on her account. Since he no longer feared gods because of the boon from Brahma, Ravana went on with his depredations. He raped Madanamanjari, wife of Rtuvarman, a tapasvi of Marutta forest, who cursed then that Ravana would be killed by a man. Finally, he raped his own would-be daughter-in-law, Rambha, betrothed to be wife of his nephew ‘Nalakubara’ s/o Kubera. Furious at this, Nalakubara pronounced this curse “You, who have become blind with lust, shall not touch a woman who does not reciprocate your love. If you do so your head will be split into seven pieces.” It is this curse that later kept Sitadevi and many other chaste women safe from Ravana’s depredations, although they still were victim to molestation and insults by him. After this curse, Ravana resorted molestations, humiliation and abductions to cater to his lust, but never committed a rape again. Rape, Rakshasas and Human Civilization Rape is a part of Rakshasa culture, and ‘marriage by rape’ is known as ‘rakshasa vivaha’ to the Hindus. Ramayana, which is a story of the destruction of Ravana, is an eternal reminder that rape can have no place in human culture, and that the culture of rapists is bound to be destroyed by divine forces. Molestations of women by Ravana Ravana tried to humiliate Punjikadevi, the daughter of Brahma, who reiterated the curse of Nalakubara that he would die with all his ten heads broken if he touched unwilling women. By way of revenge, Ravana took to molesting and misbehaving with women in the presence of their helpless relatives. He humiliated Svahadevi, in the presence of Agni, earning Agni’s curse. When he molested Dvaipayana’s sister in the presence of Dvaipayana, the latter cursed him with humiliation by monkeys. Similar curses were pronounced when he molested Atri’s wife in his presence, and he misbehaved with and humiliated brahmin girls who were bathing in the sea, in the very presence of their mothers. Once Ravana tried to catch Sulekhadevi, the daughter of Brihaspati after conquering Devaloka. Then Brhaspati cursed that Ravana would die hit by the arrows of Rama. Some other atrocities of Ravana Ravana committed innumerable atrocities, some of which are remembered only because of the curses that they fetched him. He kicked Astavakra, the sage with eight hunches, saying ‘Oh ! handsome fellow ! I shall cure your eight hunches”. This earned him the curse of the sage: “For kicking me, a poor innocent sage, you will be kicked from head to foot and foot to head by monkeys.” Knowing his perverse proclivities, Vasistha turned down his invitation to teach him Vedas. Owing to this, Vasishsta was imprisoned until the solar King Kuvalayasva rescued him. Vasishta then predicted that Ravana and his family would be destroyed by those born in the solar dynasty. When Narada refused to explain the meaning of ‘Om’ to him, he threatened to cut off Sri Narada’s tongue, earning the curse, that all his ten heads would be cut off by a man. Maharsi Maudgalya was once doing the svastika asana, resting his neck on the yogadanda. Seeing him thus, Ravana cut the yogadanda into two with chandrahasa sword. The rishi fell and broke his backbone. This earned Ravana the curse that the chandrahasa (given to him by Siva) would become ineffective. Once Ravana invited a Vedic brahmin to install the idol of Tripurasundari given to him by Siva. For being late, the brahmin was imprisoned for seven days. This earned him the curse that he would be imprisoned for seven months by a man. King Anaranya of the solar dynasty sought shelter with him. In our culture, one who takes refuge with us is protected, but Ravana killed Anaranya with a blow on the chest. The dying king cursed him that he would die from the arrows of a prince of the solar dynasty. Sage Dattatreya had collected water which he consecrated with mantras, in order to bathe the head of his Guru. When Ravana saw this water, he poured it on his own head. Dattatreya cursed him that his head would be polluted by the feet of monkeys. Conclusion It can be seen from the above that Ravana was not an admirable character, in spite of his boons, lineage, royal power and worldly success. He was a serial rapist and tormentor of the weak. Leftists are promoting the worship of such a person by deceiving the Indian masses. Their real aim is to foster divisions among us, to degrade our values and destroy our culture.
@@panchalpratik7355 well coz we are dravida people our language has some characteristics na ....u pronounce Kerala but it's actually keralam ......sooo an extra a ,m etc will be there in our language
Because dwarpaal didnt allow sanak rishis to enter because Narayan was sleeping but as dwarpaal didnt had mantra power so they were cursed..those dwarpaal didnt do any crime..yet we came to know that every thing is happening according to narayan... Just like barbareek saw after beheading that mahabharat war is fought alone by shri krishna .. We have to follow according to vishnu's leela..
@@hrishikesh1072 No, actually the Dwarpaals did committed a *_henious crime_* by insulting the sanak rishis by unnecessary shouting at them when they requested Jaya, Vijaya to listen to their plea to meet lord Vishnu. So how could you say such rubbish that dwarpaal didn't do any crime?
@@hrishikesh1072 how can sanak rishi be angry at door step of baikuntha??? Were sanak rishi alive?? Yes they were. Were they gods?? No absolutely not. Then how did those idiots get to the door step of supreme God and curse the guards?? Where the fk guards even came?? Why supreme God would need guard??? These leelas only happen on earth. It proves that vaikuntha was a place very beautiful and developed and private and devine looking where the highest being of Indian culture lived. Could be an Alien supreme. Case is what ever The supreme being says is right and He might controlls our World still today. So he is A God. Another Alien supreme being is Shiva Who also controlls The world but has different role. The point is In both Adhyatmik and scientific case they Are God and Right and Correct About Dharma. So Hindu Dharm is Param Satya and Greatest and Original Religion of The World.
@@python5827 just an uneducated man cannot understand what is science or what are molecules? Because molecules are not seen by naked doesnt mean they are not there.. Yes, vaikuntha is a place where vishnuji stays although he is a supreme being he cannot roam from one place to another..and there are great great maharishis,sages etc who after death goes to him..stays with vishnuji.. Just like God wants humans to love him..love is not just for humans..god has two forms..one is nirakar and sakar..one with form and one without a form.. Just like a father wants his kids to love him.. Same is with God..because without love and care humans would be a disaster.. These leelas were written in hindu holy scriptures..by those great maharishis..and these people are called maharishis for a reason..they have powers within them.. Just like in school we are getting knowledge from books but do you even question the author how he knew those??
Durvasha doesn't curse them...Kumars curses them...Sanak Kumar,Sanatan Kumar,Sanandan Kumar & Sanat Kumar....& Kansa was the reincarnation of Kalnemi not Jay or Vijay...During Krishna Avatar Jay was reincarnated as Sishupal & Vijay as Dantavakra
King Ravana had ten Heads and had wisdom knowledge he was very righteous person before he turned evil person killed by Lord Ram and Lord Ram killed Ravana and King Ravana is King of Lanka
Interesting.. fireworks and rockets started in India when Mughals were ruling.. so he might be right about the Ravana burning and firework celebrations..
@@mohitvh962 that's not my point my point is raavan's knowledge came to no use because of his nature . And one of the Vishnu's gatekeeper was as knowledgeable as Raavan . So why not worship him .
All translaters and purani some persons wanted to against with dharmas so all changed by them n real all things didn't show people but now Vishva shakthi things are opening for real things for good dharma persons .They always follow good dharma without any against and their lives always keep bright ways with all gods Ashirvda ......
His story of Jaya and Vijaya is slightly wrong,Jaya and Vijaya are cursed by sanathkumaras themselves not Durvasa Maharshi, the Durvasa Maharshi story is that of Hanuman bring instructed by Ram to not let anyone in bcos Yama comes to let Ram know that his avatar has come to end and it's time to return to vaikunta.
@@python5827 Ram had to play a human because of Ravana's boon which protected him from 1.Deva 2.Kinneras 3.Asuras 5.other entities he either forgot to mention Humans or he was arrogant enough to miss it deliberately,hence Vishnu had to take an Avatar of Ram who was a human,when it comes to Hanuman's devotion it's actually an axis and an understanding between Shiva and Vishnu, it's Vishnu's primary duty to take an avatar in each yuga to curtail evil and it's Shiva's duty to help Vishnu do that, only a being with an utmost devotion to his lord can achieve extraordinary feats and mind you Hanuman is Rudra which is one of Shiva's component Hanuman is so powerful that even gods feared his strength ,hence his unwavering devotion is what reminded him of his duty and kept him in check, every human has some divinity in him so nothing wrong in worshipping a human being.
Why you all guys just say ram or ravan and other names like they are written in our text in our language instead of pronouncing it as Rama and Ravana . If we don't pronounce it correctly then how can we expect other countries' people to do so ?
Everyone one is here to believe that one jumped over the sea..and he lifted the mountain..one can have ten heads in one body..one can sustain in the fire pit if she is pure..bla bla...so i can understand one thing. Now i can write anything in a book and if i manage to win the support of ruling kingdom and made them to preserve my work, someone is going to believe it in the future..so cool yaa. May be you will read someone has the power to change the time and someone gave birth to 1000 children by chewing a bubblecum.
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Actually, they were sanakadik rishis who cursed Jay and Vijay as the gate keepers didn't allow the kumaras to enter the vaikuntha and meet Narayan. Also, the choice given by Narayan was either 7 births as my devotees or 3 births as enemies. So, jay and Vijay decided to take 3 births as enemies as they will return to Vaikunth early as compared to taking 7 births and then returning to Vaikunth.
Moreover, in Dwapar Yug, they took birth as Shishupal and Dantavakra, Kans was the rebirth of Kalanemi.
True that sanaka sanandas cursed them not the durvasa. I didn’t get from which book the author sourced the information
@@venuontop yes
What if the evil people were good people in their earlier birth..and they were made to do bad things and as karma follows them thus in the next birth they were born as evil people..
Just like the movies ,all the characters cannot be good otherwise the movie will be boring like hell...
And in movies, the more pain the protagonist suffers the more attached we become to him or her..and we want to see how he wins over the evil..same is the case with ramayan and Mahabharata...Lord Ram and the Pandavas suffered the most..
It is Vishnuji 's leela..
The person in the video is just conveying wrong information about our history, watched the whole episode too but most of his talk is just misinformation and contradictory. He himself is confused on many instances.
True👍 Thanku for the information
He is absolutely right about Indian obsession with White color.. Skin etc..
I am yet to find someone portraying Krishna as black.. All Krishna are fair.
Then u should visit Vrindavan. There u will find Krishna in bluish black complextion
Bro heard of Orissa Jaganath. We call him kaliya thakura ( the black lord) where as balram is pure white . And have you ever seen mahakal avatar or Maha kali is black . Kal bhairav is said syamkaye adidev ( black as night not human black)
@@anjalipatel7053 I am talking about serials and movies.. Don't tell me about idols..
@@Jai_hind don't tell me about Idols... I am talking about movies and serials. And in reality people do not like black skin tone.
@@Jai_hind what is black as night? And human black?? 😄 I am yet to find a human with night color complexion.
He was one of the biggest Brahman he was true devotee of Lord Shiva.He was intelligent and brave.
Evil also
Hence Proved - A Person's character is more important. Not an Ability of person.
@@terrifiedsmile3177depiction is important. You believe him to be evil because it is depicted to you from a long time back. the main issue is the storyteller wanted to depict the dravidians as demons.
ravana, meghnad, duryodhana etc are the characters which we have a lot to learn from
karn also
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@@paramatmashiva2794 He is believed as a hero, so there is no need to state that he is a villain we can learn from.
@@taruntac4347 He is part of evil four I.e. Duryodhana,Shakuni,Dushashana and Karna himself.
@@taruntac4347 He is part of evil four I.e. Duryodhana,Shakuni,Dushashana and Karna himself.
Exactly, we in odisha call Lord Jagganath(krishna) as "kaliya thakura" which literally means "black God".
And obviously everyone can just see he is black
I respect ravan because there are a lot of things to learn from him but at the same time there are a lot of things to unlearn from him
Yes, that's y Rama tells lakshmana to go near ravana when he was leaving his last breath to learn from him about war tactics
@@vineethr5588 Lord Rama never told Lakshman to learn anything from that evil personality Ravana... This story is not even mentioned in the oldest original Valmiki Ramayana... एक सच्चा शिव भक्त कभी mass scales पे मर्डर और रेप नहीं करते। रावण के बारे में सच्चाई जानने के लिए कृपया प्रामाणिक वाल्मीकि रामायण पढ़ें। Ravana molested Vedavati who was engaged in penance to obtain Madhava as husband, she cursed that he and his family would be ruined by Lord Narayana on her account. Since he no longer feared gods because of the boon from Brahma, Ravana went on with his depredations. He raped Madanamanjari, wife of Rtuvarman, a tapasvi of Marutta forest, who cursed then that Ravana would be killed by a man.
Finally, he raped his own would-be daughter-in-law, Rambha, betrothed to be wife of his nephew ‘Nalakubara’ s/o Kubera. Furious at this, Nalakubara pronounced this curse
“You, who have become blind with lust, shall not touch a woman who does not reciprocate your love. If you do so your head will be split into seven pieces."
Jay Shree Ravan ❤❤❤💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏
Jai Shree Ram❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏💪💪💪
Rama and Ravana are yin and yang . Chinese have Ramayana and some philosophers explain Ramayana through Taoist concept which is Chinese vedism or ancient Hinduism same with Shinto and others
I personally lova and respect raavanan
it was nice to hear about Ravana a day before Dussehra
Same bro 👍
These epics are there for a reason
If we keep our brain away from modern day non Sense and judgemental eyes
Every single part and thing teaches us something and they all have significance of their own
Why south differs is because it was less subjected to invasion or parts of it were always away from British rule so they kept ancient things alive
Also i feel bad for loosing books in Nalanda and takshashila
Can't imagine what got destroyed there or what actually was there
I think that's where we lost everything we had
It's the major disconnect and why we are not able to add and understand things
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European invasion started in south india before north. specially kerala with the arrival of Portugese, followed by Dutch and British.
If u go before the European colonial times south lands were pretty much unconquered. They were rich in resources and trade with arabs,greek and rome dating back to 2000bce, compared to North that faced invasions most of the time by central asian powers.
As long as we understand that Ravana was basically evil (greed, anger etc) and still revere him for his skills, thats fine. But there are only neglidgible amount of people like this. Majority are either dead against Ravana or making Ravana a hero. Always on the extremes. But here, to a certain extent its ok to be against Ravana completely because that was the plan of Leela where evil gets defeated. So Skills alone doesn't matter. One also needs to be good. That is the message we should learn from Ravana.
We don’t have a concept of EVIL
@@cmukherjee6692 I clearly explained it in brackets. By evil I meant greed, anger etc. And we have concept of Evil. Evil is not some ghost. It's all the gunas (characters) that makes one always stay in this samsara by gaining more Karma.
@@94srikanth Ravana molested Vedavati who was engaged in penance to obtain Madhava as husband, she cursed that he and his family would be ruined by Lord Narayana on her account. Since he no longer feared gods because of the boon from Brahma, Ravana went on with his depredations. He raped Madanamanjari, wife of Rtuvarman, a tapasvi of Marutta forest, who cursed then that Ravana would be killed by a man.
Finally, he raped his own would-be daughter-in-law, Rambha, betrothed to be wife of his nephew ‘Nalakubara’ s/o Kubera. Furious at this, Nalakubara pronounced this curse
“You, who have become blind with lust, shall not touch a woman who does not reciprocate your love. If you do so your head will be split into seven pieces."
@@cmukherjee6692 We do have the concept of evil... Ravana molested Vedavati who was engaged in penance to obtain Madhava as husband, she cursed that he and his family would be ruined by Lord Narayana on her account. Since he no longer feared gods because of the boon from Brahma, Ravana went on with his depredations. He raped Madanamanjari, wife of Rtuvarman, a tapasvi of Marutta forest, who cursed then that Ravana would be killed by a man.
Finally, he raped his own would-be daughter-in-law, Rambha, betrothed to be wife of his nephew ‘Nalakubara’ s/o Kubera. Furious at this, Nalakubara pronounced this curse
“You, who have become blind with lust, shall not touch a woman who does not reciprocate your love. If you do so your head will be split into seven pieces."
These "evils" were taught by ur gods... (krishna to arjun)
Finally Anand Neelkanth Sir 😍😍😍
You know him ? Let me know about him as well
They are gatekeepers, not bodyguards
I have got the inspiration from ravana to accumulate everything I just know start doing things according to my life properly
These are all stories born in the minds of great human minds, not history. That is why all these characters have all the human attributes, faculties and good and bad characteristics in them.
The north Indians generally rebuke Asuras. But what about 'suras' eg; The deva of devas, Indra, has all the mischievous characteristics, jealousy, lust, anger etc., ( He had laid even the wives of many sages ). Despite this, majority of the people in India consider him as a good character.
No it's not. Ramayana and Mahabharata are our history and they did take place. Also,yes Indra many times fallen from his position because of his bad doings but still because he is a devotee of Krishna and Krishna take examples of his devotees to teach lessons to others . So one should trie to understand and apply teachings and morals that Krishna is trying to give through his devotees.
@@anjalipatel7053 I totally agree with you.
@@anjalipatel7053 in my opinion Ravan and indra are same
Egoistic always isults Rishi or others
And they both are womanisers
Both these charecters are bad
Atleast Ravan took good care of his Lanka people but in case of Indra he is not
But only Ravan was killed not Indra
Why Ravan is Rakshas and Indra is a God
Why partiality?
Many times Indra challenge ls Vishnu even Shiva too
Still not punished
@@GamerOne_me Sir who told you that Ravana was a good king. Didn't you ask him/her proof or refrence from where he/she said so?
What I know that in ARANYA-KAND Chapter 33 Supnakha(pls don't mind spelling),Ravana's sister critices him by saying that he was arrogant, evil-minded,short tempered,lusty etc. How can such a person be a good king??
@@anjalipatel7053 read my my comment again babe
I said Srilankans believe Ravan was a good king not Indians
Figure of speech
You need just sense to understand
In srilanka they have Ravan temples too in India also UP, kerala, somewhere near Noida there are Ravan temples
In those villages they don't celebrate navaratri
I never said he is good
My question is why to punish only Ravan but let go Indra
Both are same
Not surprised the guest stood for ravana with his own excuses. Being a dravidian or lankan most of the author’s vouch for Ravana as their king since he ruled lanka which actually he stole from his brother kubera. No doubt Ravana acquired many skills, knowledge and wisdom but he never ever used them for good deeds. Lynching is a very wrong word and it’s a bias towards north. As how dravidians sees ravana as their king the north too respects Ram as their king. Simply its the victory of good over the evil. True that Ravana is an incarnation of Jaya or Vijaya but every life is different and you have to suffer the consequences of karma of that particular life so you can’t refer anyone to their past life and say ohh he was so good in that life which is never applicable in karma siddhantha. He said Ram doesn’t want anything in life which again is a wrong statement. Ram sacrificed kingdom to keep his father’s word that’s it. After returning from lanka he ruled Ayodhya for 11k years.
Wonder which one would have put thr wife on the stake 🔥
@@Stolib7 refer to ami ganatra for the answer
North, South, stop the fu*king division....lol..as if we worship ravana here ....We also worship ram...🤦🤦🤦.....You are desperately trying to divide India like south indians as team of ravan and north as team of Ram ...🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
@@Stolib7 the one who put his peoples wishes above his own
exactly.....and the dravidians had influences on south asian countries, so the good stories of Ravana being Sita's father & all good versions are created there
Shocked that ranveer didn't know the story of Jay and vijay
Finally some logical reasoning for Ramayana
We should understand this there is no good and bad.
Ofcourse there is a clear distinction..
Yep. Maya
Ravana himself leaving his secrets
I love the ending where he highlighted how the gods are black.
1) He was dwarpal (gatekeeper) not bodyguard of Vishnu
2) Ravana was evil, Jaya the dwarpala was not.
If ranava was alive, then he will definitely pass the exams, because different head studies different subjects.
he had the IQ of 10 heads...easily the most intelligent person of all time ....even 100 of Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Newton, Tesla combined are no match for him
What is the book name written by sir on ravana ?
Please get Kumar Vishwas for his view point on Ram and Krishna . He has very beautiful poetic view point .
Jaya and Vijaya were given 2 choices;3 births as enemy and 7 births as devotees. Jaya and Vijaya chose 3 births as enemies as they don't want to stay away from Vishnu for 7 births.... 100 births is wrong
100 birth is right. Dont fall for starplus siya ke Ram propaganda lol
If we look at their numerology Personality numbers Ram is a 4 Reliable, honest and reserved, the number 4s are often a pillar of strength in various situations as people feel secure and trust their good judgement.
SITA is personality number 3, the no.3s have the ability to attract people, either with outer or inner beauty. Their friendly and extrovert personality makes being around them an uplifting experience and many are drawn to their magnetic and charismatic influence.
Ravanas personality no. is 9 They are charismatic, dignified and come across as having confidence in thier abilities and talents. They have a noble appearance and are very much in control of the image they wish to project. Many celebrities and public figures have this personality number.They have the ability to attract people and at the same time repel others. While many admire them, some are jealous and task themselves to belittle them due to their arrogance. Their challenge is to be humble and to try not to hold themself above everyone else.
This guy even looks as Ravana! 😅
I have a general querry. Where did writing come from Ravana?? Which language did he wrote as sanskrit was not present in accurate form back then as writing. Everything was mukhanisruta. As writing was invented in 3400BC in Sumer. So can anyone answer that
very interesting...never heard of it..
Tamilnadu also has heoin temples. So ... ?
In which book all this is written can you please tell
Ravanan is greatest king of sri lanka people in his period lived peace full and enjoy Life
Kamsa was not jaya or vijaya??
Not for nothing, Lord Ram orders Laxman to take his blessings and Lord Ram touches his feet and asks advise, Ravan says " Hope I had a lot of time as a friend" paraphrasing.
Ravana is tamil king
Bro please first read the valmiki ramayana OK then say something ?
Ravan is the king of tamil are you kidding 😑
Ravan was born in Bishrek now in Uttarpradesh, how could he become a Tamil 😂😂😂
*@Smile Is Best medicine* So according to you, Tamilians are demóns? Because according to authentic scriptures, Ravana was a DEMÓN King, not human King.
@@jaydutta7711 There are no good or bad people here..!! It's all about how you see it ..
Ravana is worshiped in Sri Lanka .. not only there Even in India .. So they are all bad people? ..Ravana is seen as bad only because he opposed Rama .. He (Ravana) did no harm to any people, during his reign they guided the country very well.. This alone is enough. To say whether Ravana is good or bad
@@whitecloud8324 what? Ravana raped so many women to the extent that he was cursed to die if he rapes a women again....that's the reason he couldn't force Sita maa...when will you all kids learn....read before commenting
i think its all just old school to think about good and evil . its about what message you get from these . thats why ramayan and mahabharat are called epics .
Ravana is a Great King of the ancient Lanka, Meganath is a son of him, both have good qualities and both of them are great warriors. Don't think that they both are villan.. As a Sri Lankan we still need the king Ravana.. ❤❤
Ravana is a Tamil king who was a big devotee of lord Shiva...
*Ravan Mit jaayega*
*parantu Jhukegaa nehi* 😎😎😎😎
Rawana the greate king in asia had neuclear weapons,had spiritual power, intelligence and love for his people in sri lanka.Rawana story was beried underneath by someone as he led ""hela "people in sri lanka now known as sinhala people
Great knowledge 🙏🏼
Kartya veer Arjun no one share , he made ravana dance in his kingdom Mahishmati now Maheshwar
Ravan was not bad, his one quality was bad which led him to his downfall 🏴😇👑🌍🏳️
Ravana was my Grand father
😢 ohh pls get cursed
wow ...mind is blown!!!!
RAAVANA IS ALSO A GOD,.., I LOVE RAAVANA,.. Raavana was a great king,. He ruled Tamil peoples with Joy,.. Everyone one knows the god will won in the battle of God vs Human,.. Raavana was also knew that, but still he fighting for his motherland 🥲..... Lord Rama said, Raavana was the true brave warrior in the battle.... Raavana's Other names are : 1.Sivathaasan this name is given by his mom by his birth. (Sivathaasan which means someone is always present in Lord Shiva's leg, in other words, who one is always saying Lord Shiva's Name ) 2.Nilavazhagi Paandiyan (it is Raavana's name given by his mother)
3. RAAVANESHVAR or LANKESHVAR ( ishvar is a title given by lord Shiva,. It is soo tough to get, only some gods have this Ishvar title, some of the gods are Nandhishvar (lord Shiva's vehicle nandhi have the ishvar title) 2.SANEESHVAR ( saneeshvar was created by lord Shiva to giving karma for all humans and gods..).... and Raavana also have this ishavar Title,. RAAVANESHVAR OR LANKESHVAR.....
He lost his Brothers, and one brother helped to lord Rama that is a big reason for Raavana's death... And he lost his son.. and he lost his beautifull Motherland... He lost everything,.. the funny thing is even god has takes more than 7 days to kill Raavaneshvar... This shows how Raavana's heroism.... Don't tell raavan was a evil ,
he kidnapped mother Sita,.. is not fair.. Raavana even didn't touched Sita,.. and you know He was a great Scholar in Ayurvedic medicine. He was the person who invented “Arka Shastra”. The book “Arka Prakshaya” reveals this truth to the present world. As his willing to research in Ayurvedic medicine he wrote several books revealing the cures for many diseases. In one book he wrote “Eating beef cause to infect ninety eight new diseases to human beings
The book “Kumara Tantraya” which reveals the treatments for infant diseases was written by him accepting the request of his pregnant queen Mandodari
He also composed Shiva tandav strotam,..
Some of the Raavana's medical books were still using in south tamilnadu and Srilanka...
So don't tell Raavan was a demon,.he was not a bad person,,.,
OM NAMAH SHIVAYA,
JAI SHREE RAM,
JAI RAAVANESHVAR,
OM JAI MAARUTI NAMAHA...
Just beautifully narrated
Which is Ravana's motherland?.Lanka was captured from his cousin Kubera forcefully.
This guests views are outrageous
In third avatara it is shishupala and dhantavakra not kamsa
Thanks sir for a wonderful knowledge
there is a lot of hidden secrets about tamil...do a video on KUMARI KANDAM...there is a tribe in africa speaking tamil (cameroon)... in tamil , temple is called "koil"...in slovakia temples are called "kostol"...and husband in slovakia is called "manjal" (its a tamil word)..if ur interested,,,kinda do some research on these...we want the truth to come out
This is utterly not accurate. It was not Durvaasa. It didn't check further
And here in Adipurush look at Ravana (saif ali khan)
Very intresting
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I loved this insight. Sanatana dharma has a lot of nuance.
1:40. Fringes of India. Mind your language Ranveer.
I still have his book but i remember when i started reading it- its too much of focus on raavan nd always TRYING TO SHOW HIM as good and the one who is highly misunderstood nd the one who is always punished by others without any reason. This is too much opposite of what we have always read and understood since our childhood days. Its like a communist putting his idea in a childs brain. I rejected the book and stopped reading it only after some 20/30 pages. Wasted my money on buying this book
its understandable, only matured ppl can understand and praise ravana, meghnad or duryodhanas for their characters and layers.
@@thecraftsman915 matured u say🤣🤣
Then MAHARSHI VALMIKI IS NOT mature acc to u MR. MATURED
@@furious1581 he told the story and we deciphered it. so its insignificant to think if he is matured or immature 🙂
what he meant was Ravana as whole has had shades of grey (just like Krishna), his good qualities arent discussed (now of course we have social media/other authors ) but TV serials which we seen/re-run had made this impression of Good vs Evil etc which focusses on that part only rather his whole personality.
Love u ranveer ❤
whatever he speaks ,ask him for any kind proof on which basis he speaks ? i would like to know in detail. Good discussion
Wow ❤️❤️❤️
Ravana was the most powerful king in those days, not only great king he was the
Great musician
Great engineer
Great doctor
Great astrologist
Great man
Great husband
Great brother
He loved queen Mandodari very much. And also he loved his sister supernika and his stepbrother Vibishvana also.
But his stepbrother helped to Rama to kill Ravan.
I think this story is not a religious story, actually this is a political story.
Because Ravan is the most powerful king in those days. And he ruled the most counties in area. So Vibishvana wanted to take his place and Rama wanted to rule that all area. So Rama wanted to creat a war. So they went that forest that ruled by Ravana’s sister Suparnika and he cut her nose.
Because he know that Ravana loved his sister very much.
War started and Vibishvana also supported to Rama. Monkey hanuman also supported and after killed him by cheating.
After queen Mandodari became the ruler of area, so Vibishvana married queen Mandodari by cheating, and Rama became the ruler of area. Because Vibishvana is not a powerful ruler like rawan.
Rama used his wife, Rawana’s stepbrother, laksman, and slave Hanumantha for it.
After Valmiki converted this political story to religious story. After that South Indian kings tried to attack to Sri Lanka so many times due to this story.
And Valmiki converted all books to his name that wrote by king rawan.
Jay Sri Rawan…❤❤❤
Jaya and Vijay r not bodyguards they r gatekeepers 😅😅🤣🤣ravan was evil
Interesting ideas
Ravanan -the great Tamil King..
Fight between Tamils and Aryans..
I'm Sri Lankan, who said that Ravana tamil King?
Rapist is Rapist....Murderer is Murderer...Kidnapper is Kidnapper ....!!
no matter if he was Rakshash, God, Ved Gyaani, Shiv bhakt ,Stupid, Coward or whatever.
Rawan Kidnapped mother Sita when her man was not in house and that's enough for us to know about that coward.
Some "Jaativadi" mindset stupids are barking using such platforms.
Raja Ram chandra ki jai. 🙏
Excellent Answer
All the above is good, but last line is being stupid. What Jaativadi, when his other half is lowest category. Dispelling your Jaativaadi, it is that jaativaadi, who wrote this putting Jaativaadi as villain and SC, ST, OBC the Hanuman etc as supreme.
As a northeast person n plus i did ba in history i have never heard ram ravan or anyother hindu gods name in northeast we had our own god's so make sure u do ur studies well n bark here n there
That doesn't mean that these god or names exists ........on what university u did u r ba 🤣
It's not jaya Vijaya it's Jay and Vijay. Please pronounce correctly.
his reasoning of Jaya and Vijaya's rebirth is also wrong, Vishnu gives them 2 choices
1. be born as my enemy for 3 births or
2. be born as my devotees for 6 births
they say that they cannot bear to be away from him for a long tine so they agree for 3 births as enemy, I mean his reasoning is bit different.
No its 100 birth don't fall for starplus siya ke Ram propaganda
@@python5827 I never watched Star plus till date,what ever knowledge I have is from my late grandfather(he followed Bhaskara Ramayana)who taught me these things and also from telugu mythological movies,may I know the reference of your Ramayana?
He is a Great Tamil king. He was big problem for inverders from north.Of course no Indians are accepted that.becouse if someone is in history of Tamils or from south India the north Indians start with coloring them black. And brand them as bad people. If you wanna understand that please read the entire history of India.
05:23 That's the worst mimicry of Late Amrish Puri i ever heard
I was also intrigued by the new fact so though i fact check it, so i have seen others videos and read texts all points out on the fact that cursed was by four Kumars ( son's of Lord Brahma and devotess of lord vishnu ) and not by Durvasa as these gentleman stated. The kumar's weren' t allowed entry since they were in kid's form so the Jaya and Vijaya didn't allow them to meet their God. Hence, in anger they cursed both of them. Go on read it, watch it. do your own research and don't take my word for it.
When it comes to Ravana we look for geo location. When it comes to Ram we don't look for geo points but taking us through cyclic versions. Sharing knowledge and making one think is good but this doesn't serve that purpose. This rather imparts a one directional way of thinking into something non existence There are many examples such as relating "intelligence to devotion and directly calling it blind". These are just false accreditions of intelligence and trying to take away devotion.
Real things have hidden and wrong thoughts follow Some people bcs if have Purani things really but Translaters wanted to tell wrong things for their ways but real is very important for learn n good dharma...... God Rama and God Rawan had lived v beautifully in lives but people don't know real strory still bcs Original thing cant follow in lives bcs some person try to follow only their way but purani periods stories v different .It can search Original books but it has hidden too. Real still hs hidden.
*@Nethmi Navodya* What did you said, "God Rawan" ?? Since when Ravan become a god to you? Do you even know who he was? Ravana was 1% good and 99% evil and bad. A serial Rápist cannot be 90% good person. He was never better than the present days human beings.... एक सच्चा शिव भक्त कभी mass scales पे मर्डर और रेप नहीं करते। रावण के बारे में सच्चाई जानने के लिए कृपया प्रामाणिक वाल्मीकि रामायण पढ़ें।
Ravana did tapas (PENANCE) and got a boon from Brahma that none but humans could kill him. Empowered by this boon, he took away Lanka and Pushpaka Vimana from his cousin Kubera, conquered many regions with the help of his family and even subjugated the devas.
Marching north he reached Kailasa and threatened Nandi that he would throw Kailasa away with Siva. To carry out this threat he put his hands under the mountain, but Siva put his toe down, trapping Ravana’s hands under the Kailasa. His fingers painfully caught, Dashanana then sang songs praising Siva so loudly, that Siva gave him the name Ravana (which means crying or roaring) and the sword Chandrahasa.
Puffed up by his success, powers and boons, Ravana turned into a bully, serial rapist and eve- teaser, misbehaving even with gods and rishis, earning eighteen curses in the process. It is because of these curses, that some of his atrocities are still known and remembered.
The many rapes by Ravana
When Ravana molested Vedavati who was engaged in penance to obtain Madhava as husband, she cursed that he and his family would be ruined by Lord Narayana on her account. Since he no longer feared gods because of the boon from Brahma, Ravana went on with his depredations. He raped Madanamanjari, wife of Rtuvarman, a tapasvi of Marutta forest, who cursed then that Ravana would be killed by a man.
Finally, he raped his own would-be daughter-in-law, Rambha, betrothed to be wife of his nephew ‘Nalakubara’ s/o Kubera. Furious at this, Nalakubara pronounced this curse
“You, who have become blind with lust, shall not touch a woman who does not reciprocate your love. If you do so your head will be split into seven pieces.”
It is this curse that later kept Sitadevi and many other chaste women safe from Ravana’s depredations, although they still were victim to molestation and insults by him. After this curse, Ravana resorted molestations, humiliation and abductions to cater to his lust, but never committed a rape again.
Rape, Rakshasas and Human Civilization
Rape is a part of Rakshasa culture, and ‘marriage by rape’ is known as ‘rakshasa vivaha’ to the Hindus. Ramayana, which is a story of the destruction of Ravana, is an eternal reminder that rape can have no place in human culture, and that the culture of rapists is bound to be destroyed by divine forces.
Molestations of women by Ravana
Ravana tried to humiliate Punjikadevi, the daughter of Brahma, who reiterated the curse of Nalakubara that he would die with all his ten heads broken if he touched unwilling women. By way of revenge, Ravana took to molesting and misbehaving with women in the presence of their helpless relatives. He humiliated Svahadevi, in the presence of Agni, earning Agni’s curse. When he molested Dvaipayana’s sister in the presence of Dvaipayana, the latter cursed him with humiliation by monkeys. Similar curses were pronounced when he molested Atri’s wife in his presence, and he misbehaved with and humiliated brahmin girls who were bathing in the sea, in the very presence of their mothers.
Once Ravana tried to catch Sulekhadevi, the daughter of Brihaspati after conquering Devaloka. Then Brhaspati cursed that Ravana would die hit by the arrows of Rama.
Some other atrocities of Ravana
Ravana committed innumerable atrocities, some of which are remembered only because of the curses that they fetched him.
He kicked Astavakra, the sage with eight hunches, saying ‘Oh ! handsome fellow ! I shall cure your eight hunches”. This earned him the curse of the sage: “For kicking me, a poor innocent sage, you will be kicked from head to foot and foot to head by monkeys.”
Knowing his perverse proclivities, Vasistha turned down his invitation to teach him Vedas. Owing to this, Vasishsta was imprisoned until the solar King Kuvalayasva rescued him. Vasishta then predicted that Ravana and his family would be destroyed by those born in the solar dynasty.
When Narada refused to explain the meaning of ‘Om’ to him, he threatened to cut off Sri Narada’s tongue, earning the curse, that all his ten heads would be cut off by a man.
Maharsi Maudgalya was once doing the svastika asana, resting his neck on the yogadanda. Seeing him thus, Ravana cut the yogadanda into two with chandrahasa sword. The rishi fell and broke his backbone. This earned Ravana the curse that the chandrahasa (given to him by Siva) would become ineffective.
Once Ravana invited a Vedic brahmin to install the idol of Tripurasundari given to him by Siva. For being late, the brahmin was imprisoned for seven days. This earned him the curse that he would be imprisoned for seven months by a man.
King Anaranya of the solar dynasty sought shelter with him. In our culture, one who takes refuge with us is protected, but Ravana killed Anaranya with a blow on the chest. The dying king cursed him that he would die from the arrows of a prince of the solar dynasty.
Sage Dattatreya had collected water which he consecrated with mantras, in order to bathe the head of his Guru. When Ravana saw this water, he poured it on his own head. Dattatreya cursed him that his head would be polluted by the feet of monkeys.
Conclusion
It can be seen from the above that Ravana was not an admirable character, in spite of his boons, lineage, royal power and worldly success. He was a serial rapist and tormentor of the weak. Leftists are promoting the worship of such a person by deceiving the Indian masses. Their real aim is to foster divisions among us, to degrade our values and destroy our culture.
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Why they pronounce ravanA not RAVAN???😐😐
In south we pronounce as ravana rama etc ....not ram raavan etc
@@ajayk1432 why is that??
@@panchalpratik7355 well coz we are dravida people our language has some characteristics na ....u pronounce Kerala but it's actually keralam ......sooo an extra a ,m etc will be there in our language
@@ajayk1432 thanks bro..👋
He changed the story', actually they were sanak rishis who cursed Dwarpaal's. Also the Varah avtar story was not what he mentioned.
Because dwarpaal didnt allow sanak rishis to enter because Narayan was sleeping but as dwarpaal didnt had mantra power so they were cursed..those dwarpaal didnt do any crime..yet we came to know that every thing is happening according to narayan...
Just like barbareek saw after beheading that mahabharat war is fought alone by shri krishna ..
We have to follow according to vishnu's leela..
@@hrishikesh1072 No, actually the Dwarpaals did committed a *_henious crime_* by insulting the sanak rishis by unnecessary shouting at them when they requested Jaya, Vijaya to listen to their plea to meet lord Vishnu. So how could you say such rubbish that dwarpaal didn't do any crime?
@@hrishikesh1072 how can sanak rishi be angry at door step of baikuntha??? Were sanak rishi alive?? Yes they were. Were they gods?? No absolutely not. Then how did those idiots get to the door step of supreme God and curse the guards?? Where the fk guards even came?? Why supreme God would need guard??? These leelas only happen on earth. It proves that vaikuntha was a place very beautiful and developed and private and devine looking where the highest being of Indian culture lived. Could be an Alien supreme. Case is what ever The supreme being says is right and He might controlls our World still today. So he is A God. Another Alien supreme being is Shiva Who also controlls The world but has different role. The point is In both Adhyatmik and scientific case they Are God and Right and Correct About Dharma. So Hindu Dharm is Param Satya and Greatest and Original Religion of The World.
@@python5827 just an uneducated man cannot understand what is science or what are molecules? Because molecules are not seen by naked doesnt mean they are not there..
Yes, vaikuntha is a place where vishnuji stays although he is a supreme being he cannot roam from one place to another..and there are great great maharishis,sages etc who after death goes to him..stays with vishnuji..
Just like God wants humans to love him..love is not just for humans..god has two forms..one is nirakar and sakar..one with form and one without a form..
Just like a father wants his kids to love him..
Same is with God..because without love and care humans would be a disaster..
These leelas were written in hindu holy scriptures..by those great maharishis..and these people are called maharishis for a reason..they have powers within them..
Just like in school we are getting knowledge from books but do you even question the author how he knew those??
@@jaydutta7711 the dwarpals didnt shout at them ,they just didnt allow them to enter..
FIRST LIBRANDU ON RANVEER'S SHOW. 😂
Durvasha doesn't curse them...Kumars curses them...Sanak Kumar,Sanatan Kumar,Sanandan Kumar & Sanat Kumar....& Kansa was the reincarnation of Kalnemi not Jay or Vijay...During Krishna Avatar Jay was reincarnated as Sishupal & Vijay as Dantavakra
this guest has the most perverse way of re-writing already existing stories, he portrays few characters in an extremely dark way.
Oh man the sage who came and cursed Jay Vijaya is not durvasaa..... They are saint's who looks like child..... Their names are Sanka sananda nadha
King Ravana had ten Heads and had wisdom knowledge he was very righteous person before he turned evil person killed by Lord Ram and Lord Ram killed Ravana and King Ravana is King of Lanka
Go greed is a virtue ..is he even listening to himself.
Interesting.. fireworks and rockets started in India when Mughals were ruling.. so he might be right about the Ravana burning and firework celebrations..
But sir why worship Raavan why not the original gatekeeper who played his role .
Ravana worshiped for knowledge bro..!!
Here it completely..!
@@mohitvh962 that's not my point my point is raavan's knowledge came to no use because of his nature . And one of the Vishnu's gatekeeper was as knowledgeable as Raavan . So why not worship him .
@@shireeshgahlaut2000 you do
@@minzs007 🤣🤣🤣👍
Then why are you worshipping Rama? Worship only Vishnu na.
Our Ravan history was cheated by valmiki who wrote ramayan.He was the greatest king of the world
How come you Ranveer says Mahabharata happened in North india these North indian centic mindset we really hate in South. You people should grow
Really interesting knowledge we know through your video
All translaters and purani some persons wanted to against with dharmas so all changed by them n real all things didn't show people but now Vishva shakthi things are opening for real things for good dharma persons .They always follow good dharma without any against and their lives always keep bright ways with all gods Ashirvda ......
His story of Jaya and Vijaya is slightly wrong,Jaya and Vijaya are cursed by sanathkumaras themselves not Durvasa Maharshi, the Durvasa Maharshi story is that of Hanuman bring instructed by Ram to not let anyone in bcos Yama comes to let Ram know that his avatar has come to end and it's time to return to vaikunta.
When Ram is playing A human then why worship a human?? As we worship Shiva Because he is Supreme Being
@@python5827 Ram had to play a human because of Ravana's boon which protected him from
1.Deva
2.Kinneras
3.Asuras
5.other entities
he either forgot to mention Humans or he was arrogant enough to miss it deliberately,hence Vishnu had to take an Avatar of Ram who was a human,when it comes to Hanuman's devotion it's actually an axis and an understanding between Shiva and Vishnu, it's Vishnu's primary duty to take an avatar in each yuga to curtail evil and it's Shiva's duty to help Vishnu do that, only a being with an utmost devotion to his lord can achieve extraordinary feats and mind you Hanuman is Rudra which is one of Shiva's component Hanuman is so powerful that even gods feared his strength ,hence his unwavering devotion is what reminded him of his duty and kept him in check, every human has some divinity in him so nothing wrong in worshipping a human being.
he don't know anything about ramayan he thinks he is expert
They are intelligent they don’t want to be blind Bhakt woah his political inclination is clear seen😂
I made the same comment.
Why they are pronouncing ravan as Ravana, ram as Rama, why why why
Your language is yours,when you speak you could go 'ravan and ram' ...when we speak we WILL mention ravana and rama
Get it straight.
@@ar_l_rvo.o5356 No u can't pronounce wrong
@@The_maths_voyager lmfao
@@ar_l_rvo.o5356 Dekh raha hai Binod jab dar lagne laga to short form m bate krne lage sachiv ji
@@ar_l_rvo.o5356 so if my name is Sagar in Hindi ,it would become Sagara when i speak in English. what a logic ??
Why you all guys just say ram or ravan and other names like they are written in our text in our language instead of pronouncing it as Rama and Ravana .
If we don't pronounce it correctly then how can we expect other countries' people to do so ?
Thankyou Muslims for inventing dashera for buring ravan to portray win of good or evil 😂
Everyone one is here to believe that one jumped over the sea..and he lifted the mountain..one can have ten heads in one body..one can sustain in the fire pit if she is pure..bla bla...so i can understand one thing. Now i can write anything in a book and if i manage to win the support of ruling kingdom and made them to preserve my work, someone is going to believe it in the future..so cool yaa. May be you will read someone has the power to change the time and someone gave birth to 1000 children by chewing a bubblecum.
No saptha rishi cursed jaya vijaya
Muslim rulers be like- ye bhi hamari galti hai 🙂🥲😂
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Hitler was a fantastic painter you know