For anybody interested in the MV-1. the MV-1 had several firmware updates and now also has a random sound generator that you can use to make songs ! And you can import projects from 101/707 to the MV-1. the MV-1 can now also import MIDI files.
Can't wait til somone produces something noticeable with this thing, I think it has potential and hope it speaks to those whom it is aimed for (both genders!) :)
Excellent video. I like the way you clearly explained the love playing of the 707 vs the prepared concept for f the mv1. Also with the 1.8 update the two can exchange files!
Good explanation. It makes a lot more sense to more clearly hear the intent behind the different machines. I thought the MV-1 was in a weird spot before.
Your suggestion about editing the ZC1 synth through Zenbeats would be awesome, in my opinion. I went with the 707 strictly because of the access to tone edit from the device. But if the MV had that at as a connected monitor option, I would definitely have gone with that and saved a bit of cash. I'm sure that's likely why it's not implemented, as companies don't have a strong desire to cannibalize their own product offerings.
Hello So im sure you know this: Putting a midi keyboard to this. I ended up getting the Arturia keylab 49 essential (MIDI CH1 KICK) (MIDI CH2 SNARE) (MIDI CH3 HiHat) (MIDICH4 KIT) (MIDI CH5 BASS) (MIDI CH6 INST1) ( MIDI CH7 INST2) So as you play the keyboard you need to choose this on the controller It was more enjoyable playing from keyboard. I'm understanding that each one of those seg has four values to it
Each one of the 7 parts has the entire Zen-Core technology to play with. It’s really a 7 parts multi timbral sound module packed with a sequencer and voice recorder (could be other things than voice) .
Love the lesson you gave ,you helped me understand the MV1 Verselab better but hope you do more on explaining more about switching the sounds in the same track please
I miss the MV-8800 support. I was hoping Roland came out with a MV-10K (name I thought would be nice), but no CD burner. You would record your song on a USB drive or flash drive. Come on Roland I'm waiting patiently..
The Mv-8800 was amazing. Used to have one. Even screen out function AND a mouse input. A true computer replacer back then. Amazing that NO units come with that today, not the mpc's not this.
Thanks for this video and explanation. I am a singer songwriter and would like to see some device that allows me to rearrange my songs in a new way in order to perform them live with my guitar and the X device, so I could change some levels according to the different venues... but this is not that device, at least, not now. Keep waiting...
Buena y otra nueva Groovebox para configurarla con otro aparato midi musical y a flipar y a trabar juntos...Bien animo con todas las cosas y vayamos todos con alegrías...
You are from montreal too!! Amazing review that was super useful! I love the performance flow on the tr8s but I found it's too limited for instruments on live performance... Definitely have to try out the mc 707 or even go with a elektron... :/ too many options!
The mc707 doesn't have a song mode?..that sucks ..the mc505 and mc909 both had one ..I was hoping to replace the 505 with the 707..but I dunno what to do now ...ahhhhh!
The best explanation of how the mv1 works, I have the fa08 keyboard and I think is a great match for my keyboard, I have been thinking to buy the fantom, what do you think? Thank you for all your help.
I would love to hear your opinions comparing the circuit and circuit tracks (novation) from synth engine point of view, the sequencer etc has been covered a lot, I don’t believe that novation wouldn’t improve the synth engine over 4 years :), as far as versalab, it is still on my radar but mc707 is killer beast, the sound designs part on 707 sucks even with the larger display and 4 help knobs. Roland should spice up their sounds with some dirt.Picking up from 6k preset sounds becomes counter intuitive , especially workflow with four partials ...way too slow to design sounds
I could never write a full song with variations, scale changes snd so on on that thing. I don't work that way. Interested in getting it as a tone module for studio/live use though, through midi.
@@Nu-trix that's what I mean. If I can import some midi files with nice chord progressions into the Verselab. Not always have my midi keyboard around on a trip. 😅 Good YT channel BTW. 👍
Any kind of micro timing on this? If I want to shift some individual steps around in the sequencer to give them a little more human feel, is that possible?
They both use the same ZEN-Core synthesis engine . So they have the same capabilities but they don’t come with the same presets. The MV-1 can only play presets, the MC-70 has access to the complete synthesis engine.
I’m trying to decide between this or the polyend tracker for a semi portable Groovebox . They are both about the same price on the used market. But this workflow seems incredibly confusing
The verselab is really aimed at the vocalist /rapper who wants to produce his/her own music. The mpc is a more complete and open music production system.
@@Nu-trixThank you for this answer. I spent 2 days watching videos to decide which to buy. I'm a song writer, singer and DJ. I need both then. Merci beaucoup.
Is it possible to create a custom tone/sound on the 707 and then use that sound on the mv-1? Export it from the 707 and import it on the mv-1? I ask this because the 707 has much more tone editing ability than the mv-1
In brief : yes. But it depends on the engine used. For exemple if you use zencore for your sound design, the patch saved will be able to play in an MC-101, Mc-707, Jupiter-xm, the software Zenology and +. But if you use a model expension (jupiter-8) it needs to be compatible to the other device.
@@Nu-trix OK Wow thanks I have to figure this out. So how would I retrieve a custom tone from the 707 - can I find it on the SD card? I didn't see anything about exporting in the menus.
when they first came out at least they were generally called Neutrik connectors or Neutrik combos. so i definitely was all 'how does Nu-Trix not know of Neutrik combos?!'
@@beesleep23 ooo, you mean Neutrik combo. Of course I know about them. They are the first company to create such a connector. And yes, it’s was a wink at them when I chose Nu-Trix as a name. But it’s not the name of the connector it’s the name of the company who created the combo connector.
For anybody interested in the MV-1. the MV-1 had several firmware updates and now also has a random sound generator that you can use to make songs !
And you can import projects from 101/707 to the MV-1. the MV-1 can now also import MIDI files.
Can't wait til somone produces something noticeable with this thing, I think it has potential and hope it speaks to those whom it is aimed for (both genders!) :)
Excellent video. I like the way you clearly explained the love playing of the 707 vs the prepared concept for f the mv1. Also with the 1.8 update the two can exchange files!
Thank You!!!! I think you answered my question. I could not understand how they Layered the sounds. All other videos didn't explain it well.
Good explanation. It makes a lot more sense to more clearly hear the intent behind the different machines.
I thought the MV-1 was in a weird spot before.
Your suggestion about editing the ZC1 synth through Zenbeats would be awesome, in my opinion. I went with the 707 strictly because of the access to tone edit from the device. But if the MV had that at as a connected monitor option, I would definitely have gone with that and saved a bit of cash. I'm sure that's likely why it's not implemented, as companies don't have a strong desire to cannibalize their own product offerings.
Hello So im sure you know this: Putting a midi keyboard to this. I ended up getting the Arturia keylab 49 essential (MIDI CH1 KICK) (MIDI CH2 SNARE) (MIDI CH3 HiHat) (MIDICH4 KIT) (MIDI CH5 BASS) (MIDI CH6 INST1) ( MIDI CH7 INST2) So as you play the keyboard you need to choose this on the controller It was more enjoyable playing from keyboard. I'm understanding that each one of those seg has four values to it
Each one of the 7 parts has the entire Zen-Core technology to play with. It’s really a 7 parts multi timbral sound module packed with a sequencer and voice recorder (could be other things than voice) .
Love the lesson you gave ,you helped me understand the MV1 Verselab better but hope you do more on explaining more about switching the sounds in the same track please
Thanks, this is a useful and clear explanation of what the Verselab is about.
I miss the MV-8800 support. I was hoping Roland came out with a MV-10K (name I thought would be nice), but no CD burner. You would record your song on a USB drive or flash drive. Come on Roland I'm waiting patiently..
The Mv-8800 was amazing. Used to have one. Even screen out function AND a mouse input. A true computer replacer back then. Amazing that NO units come with that today, not the mpc's not this.
this is one amazing video a ton of in fo right here.Thank you!!!
Thanks for this video and explanation. I am a singer songwriter and would like to see some device that allows me to rearrange my songs in a new way in order to perform them live with my guitar and the X device, so I could change some levels according to the different venues... but this is not that device, at least, not now. Keep waiting...
ya, good plug for... moog audio, Montreal!
Thanks. It does help.
Buena y otra nueva Groovebox para configurarla con otro aparato midi musical y a flipar y a trabar juntos...Bien animo con todas las cosas y vayamos todos con alegrías...
Bothe very good devices.
You are from montreal too!! Amazing review that was super useful!
I love the performance flow on the tr8s but I found it's too limited for instruments on live performance... Definitely have to try out the mc 707 or even go with a elektron... :/ too many options!
The mc707 doesn't have a song mode?..that sucks ..the mc505 and mc909 both had one ..I was hoping to replace the 505 with the 707..but I dunno what to do now ...ahhhhh!
With the updates the MC 707 has the song mode, and many more things added cheers!.
Why song mode is needed?
The best explanation of how the mv1 works, I have the fa08 keyboard and I think is a great match for my keyboard, I have been thinking to buy the fantom, what do you think? Thank you for all your help.
It all depends of your workflow. The question is : why would you need the fa08 and fantom X?
@@Nu-trix I want to buy the mv1 so I can use it with the fa 08
This has probably sold the MV-1 to me.
Not bad!
I would love to hear your opinions comparing the circuit and circuit tracks (novation) from synth engine point of view, the sequencer etc has been covered a lot, I don’t believe that novation wouldn’t improve the synth engine over 4 years :), as far as versalab, it is still on my radar but mc707 is killer beast, the sound designs part on 707 sucks even with the larger display and 4 help knobs. Roland should spice up their sounds with some dirt.Picking up from 6k preset sounds becomes counter intuitive , especially workflow with four partials ...way too slow to design sounds
I could never write a full song with variations, scale changes snd so on on that thing. I don't work that way. Interested in getting it as a tone module for studio/live use though, through midi.
Great machine indeed. Would be great if you can import midi files like on the MC-101.
You can import MIDI into the MC-707.
@@Nu-trix yes like on the 101.. But it would be nice if you can on the Verselab to.. Maybe in a future update 😃
@@ALTARBEATZ I'm not sure. They seems to be created for different purpose: Performance vs production
@@Nu-trix that's what I mean. If I can import some midi files with nice chord progressions into the Verselab. Not always have my midi keyboard around on a trip. 😅
Good YT channel BTW. 👍
@@ALTARBEATZ Can your export a project from 101 to the Verselab?
For the price it’s a steal
Any kind of micro timing on this? If I want to shift some individual steps around in the sequencer to give them a little more human feel, is that possible?
Hi do you know which has better sounds 707 or verselab thank you
They both use the same ZEN-Core synthesis engine . So they have the same capabilities but they don’t come with the same presets. The MV-1 can only play presets, the MC-70 has access to the complete synthesis engine.
Question with it record motion from the pitch wheel of a midi controler. Thats my biggest issue with 101 and 707
I’m trying to decide between this or the polyend tracker for a semi portable Groovebox . They are both about the same price on the used market. But this workflow seems incredibly confusing
This flow seems to be directly aimed at signer-songwriters.
Any idea if the SDZ sample packs for MC101/707 work with the MV-1? Thanks
I’ll have to test iit.
@@Nu-trix thanks man, Verselab seems easier to get a complete song than my 101
I’m loving the 1010Music Blackbox Studio for quick work reminds me of my MPC only waaaaaaay smaller
They do. I loaded the SDZ001-100 bundle with no problem.
@@joshmoneymusic outstanding Thanks
Is there much reasoning having two of them to complete each other?
Good information, how would you compare this to something like the MPC one?
The verselab is really aimed at the vocalist /rapper who wants to produce his/her own music. The mpc is a more complete and open music production system.
@@Nu-trix thanks
This can be played live also so don’t say it can’t
Trying to decide between the MV-1 or the 707
Are you a signer, rapper or vocalist ? If so the MV is more designed for you. If you are a synth user / Dj, the mc-707 is more for you.
@@Nu-trixThank you for this answer. I spent 2 days watching videos to decide which to buy. I'm a song writer, singer and DJ. I need both then.
Merci beaucoup.
Does it have a key mode? (when you set up the key and all the notes are in key instead of just chromatic?)
You can select different scales
For the pad to play live.
@@Nu-trix ye do some menu diving you will find it
Is it possible to create a custom tone/sound on the 707 and then use that sound on the mv-1? Export it from the 707 and import it on the mv-1? I ask this because the 707 has much more tone editing ability than the mv-1
In brief : yes. But it depends on the engine used. For exemple if you use zencore for your sound design, the patch saved will be able to play in an MC-101, Mc-707, Jupiter-xm, the software Zenology and +. But if you use a model expension (jupiter-8) it needs to be compatible to the other device.
@@Nu-trix I haven't used zencore or zenology yet. I'm creating sounds directly on the 707 hardware.
The MC-707 synthesis engine is Zencore by default unless you use a model expansion (jupiter-8, SH-101 ..)
@@Nu-trix OK Wow thanks I have to figure this out. So how would I retrieve a custom tone from the 707 - can I find it on the SD card? I didn't see anything about exporting in the menus.
Couldn‘t you have just used the Line In connections to record your vocals?
I still would have gone through my own preamp and not tested the included mic preamp.
how did you of all people not know the name of the 1/4" / XLR combo jacks?! 😮😂
Im a synth guy, not a combo jack guy 🤣
when they first came out at least they were generally called Neutrik connectors or Neutrik combos.
so i definitely was all 'how does Nu-Trix not know of Neutrik combos?!'
@@beesleep23 ooo, you mean Neutrik combo. Of course I know about them. They are the first company to create such a connector. And yes, it’s was a wink at them when I chose Nu-Trix as a name. But it’s not the name of the connector it’s the name of the company who created the combo connector.
MC-707 + Verselab = MC-808 - Zen Core
Nice, but the multiple camera shots are very annoying (hand movement). Please more focus and less fancy effects next time. Otherwise good video!
Theres no faders at all !! - even for a "studio gear" ...No way...its too many dive into sub / parameters to tune each instrument....
Huge lack : undo button, sound browsing just awfull
Undo is the exit button with either the forward or back arrows