I can not overstate how much I love that Maria uses roller skates. That being the reason why Shadow uses his jet boots like skates is SO smart and I have been so crazy about it.
And the fact that she most likely uses them to walk because of her condition causing her to not even exert much energy in running. *cries in a corner* They are giving Maria so much character and I love it!
as another neat detail: Sonic early on cracks jokes on who does Shadows highlights. Turns out Shadow was black and grey at first, and Maria actually gave him the red highlights. Very sweet.
I find it funny that Jim Carey said he was done with acting until he sees a script that he deemed “really important for people to see” And then he got announced to be in this movie
@@codytoeung5089 he specifically said he would only return for sonic 3if he got script written in gold delivered by angels, they did actually print it in real gold but I’m haven’t heard anything about the angels
Ooooh those were some stone cold blood words that pierced through the soul. 😧Getting kicked in the balls would have hurt a lot less. And would have gotten over quicker 🫠
It was SO unnecessarily brutal, too - just suddenly this whole bonding plot is shattered by one amazing line. And it's also when Gerald is starting to come out of the fuzzy wuzzy granpa shtick.
Before Maria spoke her first line, she had more personality and I knew more about her than literally ALL of her other incarnations COMBINED. It’s insane that this movie did so well with her, as much as it’s insane that it took THIS LONG for her to be anything approaching an actual character. I love this movie.
@@Bobb11881Yes, but she's still a bit too perfect? I was hoping we'd see a bit more of a flawed version since we're not just seeing her in the context of Shadow's memories, just a bit more childishness or selfishness, not enough to ruin her though.
Eggman's "I've got an announcement to make" is genuinely the most heartwarming sequences i've seen in 2024 movies. Him finally realizing (too late) how much Stone actually cared for him is heartening and sad to see. If this is the end of Eggman, it's a fitting one
Sonic getting genuinely mad at Shadow for almost killing Tom, going as far as to tell Knuckles to give him the Master Emerald hit me in the feels. Reminds me of how I would react if someone I knew got killed.
They keep advertising it on Twitter as the “number one film in America” too despite the fact that it is losing to Sonic 3 in America (technically it's winning in the “in the world” category so that's technically not false advertising)
Sonic absolutely deserves this Renaissance. Not sure what caused Sega to have a fire under their ass but I'm here for it. Keep it coming Sega, you're doing great.
@ConnorTheUndying In general it's probably a large combination of things between having a decade of lackluster games culminating in sonic forces and stuff like that
Yes! I feel with Black Doom and Agent Stone still being alive they can do something with that. I don’t want Robonik to return again. Maybe a different one would be okay but I’m guessing they are reading something else with Metal Sonic and Amy
I could see them making Stone the new Dr. Eggman. Like he takes on the mantle in honour of his lost love maybe blames Sonic and Co and goes insane because of it. I mean this is the same guy who took over someones coffee business in Green Hills so he could be situated closer to Sonic's family just on the small chance that his amore somehow returned from deep space.
I'm a bit surprised no one is talking about this line, but that line Gerald dropped was so incredibly cold, it had all my family members' jaws dropped. "Oh Ivo. You're no Maria."
So, here's where the 3rd act fully won me over. In Sonic Adventure 2, the game constantly teased you with Live and Learn, playing bits of it all over the place. But you never hear it go full blast until the final boss fight. And the movie did that. It's subtle, but if you're listening, the OST teases you with the song until Shadow is finally ready to LIve and Learn, where it goes full blast.
Another cool fact is the first time live and learn plays it's a slow reversed version symbolizing shadows mental state but when he redeems himself it plays normally.
God, 2024 was literally the best time to be a Sonic fan. Sonic X Shadow Generations was a huge hit and Sonic 3 is so successful that Disney is trying to gaslight people into thinking Mufasa is doing better.
To be fair, I thought Mufasa was INSANE. I'd still say Sonic 3 was better, but if I gave Sonic 3 a 98% good score, I'd give Mufasa a 97%. It was DAMN CLOSE, but Sonic takes the cake.
Something I really enjoyed was Team Sonic's chemistry. Their friendship felt genuine. Sonic was definitely the leader, but all three of them had a unique and important role on the team.
@@alfredokusuma9511 whether it is making more money or not, the point is that everybody is talking about sonic, and nobody is talking about Mufasa. A Mufasa movie was going to do at least slightly well regardless of whether it was necessary. That doesn’t mean the world that large was actually gonna care about it though.
I was surprised at how huge a response Amy got, I didn't realize that she's so popular. I guess the increased focus on her in recent years (plus de-emphasizing her being a crazy stalker) has really paid off.
I saw Sonic 3 day one, and when I tell you the whole theater SCREAMED during the post credits scene, I mean a pretty silent theater overall suddenly ERUPTED in cheering. My voice hurt a bit afterwards 😂
there were a ton of kids in my showing, and one boy in particular got VERY excited at seeing Amy, and when he asked a friend if they knew who she was, he said no. So, that kid very animatedly explained who she was, and his friends seemed pretty attentive. I think that's cute. I remember a time in fandom culture where the "know it all nerd" was looked down on, but it's cool seeing that kinda enthusiasm in real life.
@@DylanYoshiI mean going down the list, Amy is probably the last big popular Sonic character not represented in the movies yet, even during the 2000's when she was considered a "crazy stalker".
One change I really, REALLY like from the game to the movie, is that Shadow himself is the one who realizes what he's doing is wrong. In Sonic Adventure 2, they do a really flimsy job (sorry SA2 fans it's true) of having Amy convince Shadow via "oh Shadow they're good people out there if they follow their wishes.". In Sonic X, it's a bit better, with a human child Chris, convincing Shadow with a pretty compelling argument in how unfair it is of Shadow to punish a bunch of innocents for something that happened 50 years ago. Here, it's Shadow who realizes what he's doing isn't what Maria would want. And they do this gradually, with him even going "Gabriella is not some prize to be won" when he's watching the Spanish soap opera, telling the audience even there, when his heart is full of anger, that he DOES still know what is and isn't right. When he attacked Tom, he DID seem a little bit regretful at what had happened; he saw himself in Sonic's pain and worry. But was still in too much pain himself to fully apologize and see what he was doing was wrong. And then later questioning Gerald if this is what Maria would want. And then finally when Shadow and Sonic are on the moon, he goes "This whole mess is my fault". It's just such a stronger character moment when the one doing wrong sees it, vs someone having to convince them otherwise. The character arcs in this movie between Shadow, Sonic and Robotnik were all written INCREDIBLY well. I do wonder what the movie would've looked like if they had kept some of their original ideas, such as Tom actually not surviving Shadow's attack. How would Sonic cope with that kind of loss? Would Shadow still have been able to be redeemed? But as it is, the movie is really, really. INCREDIBLY good. And the best part of these movies? It's cool seeing movie Sonic slowly turning into the hedgehog we know. "If you're gonna take a shot at the fastest creature in the universe, you better not miss!" is proof enough of that. I don't know what got into Sega recently, to give Sonic so many wins in the 2020s but I certainly hope they don't stop any time soon. Sonic certainly deserves his own renaissance after what he endured in the 2010s.
What I hated about the "Amy must be in Sonic 3!" conversations back when the first trailer dropped was that nobody seemed to want Amy to be in the movie for Amy herself. They just wanted her to be there for that one scene. That's so disrespectful.
I remember when the trailers were coming out and people were theorizing that Shadow was gonna hurt Tom because he was a descendant of the man who shot Maria. Not only does making it an accident hit so much harder for both the audience and the characters, but it also makes Shadow realize that he's no better than the G.U.N soldiers who shot Maria. Seriously, you could *hear* Shadow's thought process as he watched Sonic try to wake up Tom even before the flashback. It was beautiful storytelling. Don't even get me started on Super Sonic vs Super Shadow.
Super Sonic vs Super Shadow was completely unexpected for me, like, it's Sonic Adventure 2, of course the two hogs are gonna go Super, but I think this is the very first time they have ever *fought* on those forms. Like, when have we ever seen a Super Form showdown?
@@silversonome5360 as far as I know, this is the second time there has been a super vs super fight, with the first being in Sonic X... Almost twenty years ago.
Also, at the beginning when he jumped out of the helicopter, he actually said "Talk about low budget flights, no food or movies? I'm out of here" from SA2.
The story for Robotnik and Agent Stone ended so beautifully, I can’t believe I was crying for them at the end. Eggman saving the world for Stone because Stone was the only person who cared for him… 🥺
I’m more impressed with whatever vfx wizardry they used for the two Robotniks than with any of the actual CGI, after their first scene I genuinely forgot they were played by the same actor, they interacted like any other characters would interact with each other even though they were both Jim Carey
Completely agree I kept looking to see if I can tell where a split screen was or the body double but my gosh they did it really well and Jim is playing two characters majority of the time, there’s very little CGI between them
I love the 4th wall break when they first meet and they do the pretend to be touching each other like in old movies when characters shared an actor but then like 2min later they're seamlessly touching and doing stuff together while both being on screen. Had me cracking up while being super impressed.
@MrShazaamable i kinda wish Shadow was eating chips and guac while watching it. It would've been a fun nod to helluva boss where Stolas goes "that's a mood Gabriela." Since the movies like to reference other media outside the Sonic verse. But yes the fact that he was actually invested in the show HAS to be a nod to the meme 😅
Shadow and Maria’s interaction gave me serious Up vibes! It’s not quite AS powerful but it’s like Up Junior. And that line: “ the light shines even though the star is gone” was the cherry on top, AMAZING WRITING!
Yes!!! That shit was some absolutely gorgeous writing and foreshadowing. Generally everything with Shadow and Sonic was done so well. Their conversation on the moon just felt so real and earned.
@Zenyx64 "you always have a choice. And making the right one isn't easy. One other thing I learned, when you REALLY mess things up, you can't fix it alone." This is some Kingdom Hearts level sht and I'm so here for it.
The „grandson and grandpa bonding time“ montage was both funny and heartwarming to me cause of how robotnik was behaving less like an over the top supervillain and more like a happy child having the time of his life with the only family he has.
Sure jealous, when this year Disney have Inside Out 2 Deadpool and Wolverine Movies whose box office gross Sonic 3 can only dreamed of.. Sonic Fans is so full of themselves 😂
When Eggman was explaining the catastrophic damage the explosion of the cannon would cause Earth, one small detail I like is they had Shadow actually react to that. They wouldn't need to; they could've just kept his face neutral. But he looked rather horrified at what Eggman said.
@@RileyTheSpeedrunner541 He's definitely more like Sonic X Shadow than the 2010s bastardization of his characterization. Someone who would absolutely do things his own way, has his own moral compass, thus coming into conflict with Team Sonic, BUT someone who isn't outright heartless either. I always equate Shadow to a prism; the reason why he's such a fan favorite is his complexity and multi-faceted personality. Shadow would be someone you could feel safe with, or would make you feel threatened at the same time. And that sht is fascinating.
That fight between Super Sonic and Super Shadow was downright incredible. The amount of DAMAGE they were doing to Earth's surface needs to be talked about more though. When Sonic shoved Shadow away from the mountain, HE CAUSED A NEW FAULT LINE to emerge. Not to mention, when he launched himself at Shadow initially, the blowback from that attack caused cracks of lava to form around them that weren't there before. Sonic was so concerned about the planet Eggman wanted to destroy, but his fight with Shadow nearly destroyed it ANYWAY. Crazy.
Thank you. THANK YOU. oh my God those two did so much damage. Sonic also completely utterly shattered Stonehenge when he uppercut Shadow to the moon so. There that is. Scratch that off your to see lists.
@@ribottostudio Pretty sure that was the Parthenon, either way it definitely wasn't Stonehenge (which is a small number of large stones in a field, whereas there were bricks and marble pillars and an actual floor in that scene). Still a major archaeological monument wiped off the map though.
One thing I appreciate that I don't think enough people are talking about, is that this feels like a satisfying conclusion to this trilogy not just for Sonic fans, but for fans of the Sonic movies specifically. A lot of callbacks to the first two movies that feel genuinely rewarding to see and hear, even just throwaway jokes they brought back in subtle moments. It was a lot of fun for me as someone who's seen both of these movies approximately way too many times. 😂 I wonder how 4 will take the series in a new direction for the beginning of (presumably) a new trilogy.
Simple yet effective media its so underated, glab people are starting to notice that and start giving them the love it deserves, and the Sonic movies are a great example of that.
It's also canon to the games, although there it happens after they've already transformed and defeated the prototype of the ultimate lifeform in space.
Spoiler at the end: My only complaint is that the dance scene goes on a bit too long. They could've taken away a minute of that and given it to Shadow. Other than that, this film is near perfect. Also, this film was the very first thing to ever make me excited to see AMY FREAKING ROSE! The back row of my theater lost their minds!
This literally dropped the moment I went to lunch. Immaculate timing for an immaculate review for a peak movie "I might actually be a Sonic fan now" TOTAL SONIC VICTORY
Spoilers: I really liked how Sonic almost killed Shadow after thinking Tom died. It explicitly drew parallels between the two and how Sonic might not be so different from Shadow if under different circumstances. That kind of parallel is something the games never did and really, could never do. Shadow was always meant to be a dark reflection of Sonic, but Sega always just defaulted to this meaning “edgelord who says damn”. It’s cool that the movies actually contrasted their characters with one another in a very unique way that incorporates a movie only character.
The murder-but-not-really scene worked on so many levels The trauma Shadow exhibits after finding out he might have killed an innocent citizen, the unbridled rage that followed from Sonic because Shadow basically killed his father, Shadow turning a blind eye to literal murder because he deems revenge as being more important They didn't need to put stuff like this on the movie, but I appreciate it so much you don't even know
They mostly didn’t do that in the games because Sonic is not intended to be a character like that in the games, he’s intentionally a static character and it works very well for those stories.
This movie took my soul out and wrung it out like a wet towel before throwing it back in me bc the scene where Tom nearly dies and Shadow has his flashback to how he was next to Maria in the same way and how that sows the seed of doubt about what he's doing is so well done We never get to see Sonic genuinely so angry that he acts on it but this time he did and it was FANTASTIC
6:36 we already have Agent Stone tho. I could see him taking up the work of Robotnik out of grief, ending up causing the metal sonic takeover in the future. It already seems to be doing a Terminator/DBZ Cell Saga pastiche with Amy, so hopefully we can count out multiverse shenanigans for once and Stone can be an intimidating villain for at least one movie (before the series inevitably ends with Chaos being the villain of 5)
i think they’re leaving it open so it could either be Stone _or_ a Robotnik retrieved through time-travel/dimensional shenanigans, depending on how pre-production and re-casting go
@ChristopherLong-y9h I don’t think even most Mephiles fans would want him as the final movie villain lol. But I mean, Chaos isn’t central villain material either, he could be _the dragon_ of the final movie
The part where Sonic says "talk about low-budget flights, no food or movies... we're outta here!" is a nod to Sonic Adventure 2's opening cutscene for the Hero Story. I was practically jumping in my seat when I heard that line. Incredible fanservice.
Honestly, it’s REALLY impressive that Jim Carrey played as two people as the time. Like imagine the editing process of of them in same scene and when they’re touching they other
When people told me I was not read Sonic 3 they were right. I was expecting it to be good, but it freaking blew me away. Shadow was handled very well, the messages of the movie were handled well, the action and humor landed really well, and my God that ending. I’ve been to the movie theater many times, but never have I experienced the theater erupt into laughter or starts talking among themselves during a scene until I went to see Sonic 3
The live action sonic franchise is a perfect example of success by giving the fans exactly what they want. Know your demographic and feed them The recognize they had a large blueprint for greatness and followed. Now Disney gotta buy out damn near every screen in the theaters just so Mufass can compete 😂
The writers know what BALANCE is. Like Schaff said, they don't JUST bombard the audience with references. The references just so happen to be there more often than not. When Shadow and Sonic do THE pose, it feels earned vs just there. imo the only reference that felt forced was "no inflight entertainment" from SA2, because it kinda comes out of nowhere. If Sonic had JUST said "We're outta here!" I think that would've been fine enough.
Well yes and no. Because if they only focused on fan service, then you get something like Ready Player One. Fanservice done well is giving proper build up to the things fans want to see. Cause it was probably well liked in the source material for a specific reason. That or the references are extremely brief or subtle as to not interrupt the flow of the story (like Shadow's origin hinting at Black Doom's connection or The Biolizard). When people say they wanna see Shadow in a film, they also mean (without saying it) that they want Shadow's character explored. Not just the aesthetic but the emotion of a tragic and vengeful creature. Fans just expect you to know what they mean fully since they might not be able to express it fully.
I'm not a big sonic fan (the only game I've finished was frontiers and I love snapcube's dubs but that's about it) but I had a good time, it's nice to see a movie that pleases longtime fans as well as more casual audiences
No they don’t. They’re up in the domestic box office. Disney does not care about Sonic 3. Get this idea these stupid TH-camrs keep putting in your head in the garbage.
1:05 to be fair that was the case in SA2's Dark Story, with how eggman and rouge mostly took centre stage over shadow (both in screentime and level quantity )
Kinda wild how Sonic is a movie trilogy that progressively got better and better with each entry when I believe the last time that happened was THE LORD OF THE RINGS back in the 2000s… Irony how all you need is a magical ring…
If you think about it, it actually makes perfect since for so ic case since there lots of lore and video games to pull from. The first movie was playing it very safe and wasn't even adapting much from the games. It was still a fine movie and was better than most was expecting but was still just a fine movie. Sonic 2 was adapting sonic 3 and knuckles and actually pulled from some of the sonic lore and was a mostly good movie. Sonic 3 was adapting arguably the game with the best lore that being sonic adventure 2. Honestly don't think sonic 4 is gonna top 3 but I can still see it being an amazing movie which is usually not the case for a 4th movie in a franchise
You know someone got converted into a Sonic fan when they not only put up clips from the games but also out of context IDW pages (6:15) Also go read the Sonic IDW comics y'all, the Metal Virus saga is like the best zombie story in a kid's franchise ever done imo
One thing I love of the Sonic movies is how genuine fun the actors are having. Like, seeing Idris Elba gushing about Knucles and using Knucles' mittens to record his lines is just cute. Same with Carrey and now Keanu. Even if the movies were not great, just knowing how much fun the actors have behund the scenes is just heartwarming
The children at my screening lost their minds during the first post-credits scene. Personally, I was never big on Sonic growing up so I was somewhat indifferent to it. Nonetheless, happy that fans are getting what they want and hopefully it leads to more good video game movies (i.e. Sly Cooper).
@MrJakeros There was, but it wasn't anything special. It played after the second set of credits (the ones after the first post credits scene) and was just a short scene confirming Shadow survived, which pretty much everyone knew was the case. We already knew they weren't gonna kill off the second most popular character in the franchise in his debut movie.
I love what they did to maddie after what happened to tom, shes not that typical person where her lover nearly died and want everyone to get out and not come back but NO She's just too stunned to speak she still cares for sonic, tails, and knuckles, and doesnt blame them for what happened
As someone who played adventure 2 battle on his uncles GameCube and and religiously watched Sonic X I have to say this movie is everything 9 year old me and 19 year old me could have ever wanted. I laughed I cried, it moved me bob
Oh, I am not only stoked for Sonic 4, but I'm thinking there's going to be a Shadow movie on the horizon. PLEASE give us Black Doom on the big screen, that'd be so COOL.
I'm not a crier, but surprisingly this was the movie that made me tear up TWICE. It was a banger, I adore what they've done for Shadow and Knuckles, and I almost want to consider myself a Sonic fan again
I loved that movie so much. My favorite part is that Gerald Robotnik makes a joke about the 2011 _Green Lantern_ movie. As someone whose special interests include Sonic and Green Lantern it felt like a joke that had been written specifically for me.
Love the fact that Sonic being movie of the year was a joke in 2020, but three movies in Sonic 3 is unironically one of the best blockbusters of the year.
It’s impressive to have a trilogy of movies that get better with each installment but to have Sonic be associated with said trilogy is absolutely wild and well deserved for the shit this franchise has been through. We’re in a golden age of Sonic and it looks to be amazing.
Shadow and Rocket are already fairly similar characters. Angry, edgy animals that use guns, made as an experiment, suffered and lost so much. I personally think Rocket is much more well-written and has more consistent personality than most Shadow iterations throughout the series. But Yeah, Theres definitely some similarities.
I went into this movie knowing that it was either going to be a 0/10 or a 10/10, with no inbetween. To get to 10/10, it had to have: 1. Super Sonic and Super Shadow 2. Flying through space 3. While Live and Learn plays All 3 three of these things had to happen at once, or else it was going to be a 0/10 from me. And ladies and gentlemen, I am happy to report that I can officially give this movie a 10/10
me and my brother saw this at the theater with my school lunch group. it was scarily impressive how jim carrey was able to pull off the comedic and power hungry robotnik we all know and love while being able to act out a terrifying and equally hilarious gerald robotnik. props the legend of an actor
6:41 problem is, Eggman Nega doesn’t have a large fanbase like at all, in fact, Ian Flynn (the current writer for the games) confirmed that Eggman Nega died after the events of Sonic Rivals 2 mainly due to how fans didn’t care about his character.
It’s placeholder. It’s just for the idea that a past Robotnik or an alternate cast is an option from here that would honor the last hurrah this one had, while maintaining Sonic having a version of his arch enemy.
@@runningoncylinders3829 also Eggman Nega is Eggman’s descendant, not an AU version. He just calls himself Eggman Nega and pretends to be an AU Eggman,
@@chadpeterson5698 I think that’s the Rivals lore which they maintain. Sonic is no stranger to retcon, including the debacle of Classic Sonic being from the past or even another dimension. It’s tough what that left Sonic Rush with, since Blaze is a very cool character from debut.
They are likely just going to have Metal by himself be the bad guy. Not only is he iconic enough that nobody would question if he deserves the role, but they would have "What I'm made of" as a perfect fit for the finale.
@@Neonlight3934 Metal is usually quiet (except in Heroes forms), I think he’d still have someone pulling the strings, even if that person isn’t Carrey’s Dr Robotnik.
6:47 i am definitely curious what Schaff thinks of Amy , since he hasn’t followed the Sonic franchise much until recently , I’m not sure if has a lot of opinions on Amy besides a couple of glances or scenes , since he did say he’s not a big fan of Amy , so he’s def seen a bit of her character to form that opinion lol , but I can probably guess what he thinks of her , if he didn’t like peach for a while until recently yeah there’s no shot he would like Amy lmao
2:10 Yes!!! Lee was also amazing. Has great chemistry with Jim. And Jim trusted him enough to cut his hair on camera. Shaved the whole thing for real and make it part of the movie.
This is a very solid adaptation of the Story of SA2/Shadow the Hedgehog. Don’t get me wrong I have problems with it but as a Sonic fan, I was really excited to see this one and I just felt really good when moments happened such as both of them powering up, the flashbacks with Maria and the turn to the good side of Eggman and Shadow (tbf the movie lacked suprise for me due to me already knowing the story, to their credit though that’s not necessarily a bad thing)
When I finally saw this movie yesterday during the scene where Shadow tells Maria how he "Doesn't know who he is." During the short quiet moment a young boy a few rows ahead of me said "He's a hedgehog." Made the moment 100 times better and had me and my girlfriend burst out laughing
I can not overstate how much I love that Maria uses roller skates. That being the reason why Shadow uses his jet boots like skates is SO smart and I have been so crazy about it.
omg
And they finally wrote Maria as an actual child instead of a glorified shooting target. I enjoyed her and Shadow's shenanigans in the lab.
And the fact that she most likely uses them to walk because of her condition causing her to not even exert much energy in running. *cries in a corner* They are giving Maria so much character and I love it!
That's really cool!
as another neat detail: Sonic early on cracks jokes on who does Shadows highlights.
Turns out Shadow was black and grey at first, and Maria actually gave him the red highlights. Very sweet.
I find it funny that Jim Carey said he was done with acting until he sees a script that he deemed “really important for people to see”
And then he got announced to be in this movie
Jim Carrey knows what’s good lmao
@@codytoeung5089 he specifically said he would only return for sonic 3if he got script written in gold delivered by angels, they did actually print it in real gold but I’m haven’t heard anything about the angels
In an interview when someone asked him about the golden script, he said it might've been overexaggerated
pretty sure he said he was broke
It’d be very funny if this was the golden script, but he confirmed he was actually just in it for the cash.
“Oh Ivo… you’re no Maria.”
When I tell you that line hit me like a TRUCK
"HOW DO YOU KNOW MY MIDDLE NAME"
@@francismayer3841 "Please stop, ow ow ow"
Ooooh those were some stone cold blood words that pierced through the soul. 😧Getting kicked in the balls would have hurt a lot less. And would have gotten over quicker 🫠
@@Attaxalotl”your mother would be very upset”
It was SO unnecessarily brutal, too - just suddenly this whole bonding plot is shattered by one amazing line. And it's also when Gerald is starting to come out of the fuzzy wuzzy granpa shtick.
Before Maria spoke her first line, she had more personality and I knew more about her than literally ALL of her other incarnations COMBINED. It’s insane that this movie did so well with her, as much as it’s insane that it took THIS LONG for her to be anything approaching an actual character. I love this movie.
Shadow Generations did a good job at giving her an actual character.
@@Bobb11881hardly tbh
I LOVED SEEING MARIA ACT LIKE AN ACTUAL KID IT WAS SO SATISFYING :D
The moment she made that little face at Shadow during their first meeting, I was like "yeah, I love this character already."
@@Bobb11881Yes, but she's still a bit too perfect?
I was hoping we'd see a bit more of a flawed version since we're not just seeing her in the context of Shadow's memories, just a bit more childishness or selfishness, not enough to ruin her though.
Eggman's "I've got an announcement to make" is genuinely the most heartwarming sequences i've seen in 2024 movies. Him finally realizing (too late) how much Stone actually cared for him is heartening and sad to see. If this is the end of Eggman, it's a fitting one
I guess that you can say that he came to make an announcement…
HE DID WHAT TO THE MOON?
It always makes me laugh knowing Stone's actor is a MASSIVE doomed yaoi fan and was probably the orchestrator of that whole scene
Sonic getting genuinely mad at Shadow for almost killing Tom, going as far as to tell Knuckles to give him the Master Emerald hit me in the feels. Reminds me of how I would react if someone I knew got killed.
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Yeah, and Schafrrilla's line of: "It would be pretty funny" if he died comes off as really fucking heartless to me.
There was a brief moment I thought Shadow genuinely did it. Love how serious they took those few scenes.
I can't believe I am saying this, but I couldn't predict how the standoff between Sonic and Knuckles would end.
Sonic actually losing his cool was very unexpected coming from his usual portrayal in the games, but very welcome.
I find it hilarious that Disney is scared of the Blue Blur so much that they’re allegedly bullying theaters into getting more showtimes for Mufasa
They keep advertising it on Twitter as the “number one film in America” too despite the fact that it is losing to Sonic 3 in America (technically it's winning in the “in the world” category so that's technically not false advertising)
Mufasa also stole the IMAX showings in the theaters near me
@sonicrunn3r895 Yeah but the only reason that Mufasa's #1 in the world is because Sonic 3 isn't out worldwide yet.
Buying theaters to play your film more is the most petty shit I've heard in my life
Disney: “The happiest place on earth.”
Sonic fans: celebrating Sonic 3’s success
Disney: *Wait that’s illegal*
It's insane to hear someone say "I think I've become a Sonic fan" after the 2010's. Like, in a good way.
And not cus of snapcube
Sonic absolutely deserves this Renaissance. Not sure what caused Sega to have a fire under their ass but I'm here for it. Keep it coming Sega, you're doing great.
@@ribottostudio My money is on that comment IGN made that Sonic was never good. I know I'd have been heated with that kinda shittalk.
@ConnorTheUndying In general it's probably a large combination of things between having a decade of lackluster games culminating in sonic forces and stuff like that
I smiled and cheered like a chucklenut when James said he's a Sonic fan now.
Shadow falling from space in a meteor instead of being a test tube baby makes me think they're totally gonna do Black Doom in the future
Yep black arms invasion
As a shadow 05 enjoyer I won
Black Doom being our Thanos equivalent reveal would actually be hype
Yes! I feel with Black Doom and Agent Stone still being alive they can do something with that. I don’t want Robonik to return again. Maybe a different one would be okay but I’m guessing they are reading something else with Metal Sonic and Amy
I could see them making Stone the new Dr. Eggman.
Like he takes on the mantle in honour of his lost love maybe blames Sonic and Co and goes insane because of it.
I mean this is the same guy who took over someones coffee business in Green Hills so he could be situated closer to Sonic's family just on the small chance that his amore somehow returned from deep space.
@@unclemogiI would rather these movie’s Thanos equivalent be a character like Mephiles or Chaos
I'm a bit surprised no one is talking about this line, but that line Gerald dropped was so incredibly cold, it had all my family members' jaws dropped.
"Oh Ivo. You're no Maria."
i put my head in my hands in the theater man that got me so bad
That's a line that warrants an "oof"
Honestly, that line went so hard
One of the few scenes I felt Gerald was written really well. Then he goes back to just being Eggman but old which was disappointing
I gasped so loud when that happened
U know it was good when the review title is not asking if it was good or nah, is straight up telling you it was radical
Highway
Is so cool
Because there were no doubts if Sonic 3 was gonna be bad
I’d hate to be that guy, but…
*Radical (Highway)
FINALLY, PEAK CINEMA. ALL HAIL SHADOW, MIDFASA GETS TRAMPLED.
ABSOLUTE CINEMA 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
LONG LIVE. . .THE KING!!!
BOW YOUR HEAD LOW, ALL HAIL SHADOW
@@bogboyburger2592SUFFER LONG AND IT WILL SET YOU FREEE
You mean mildfasa
So, here's where the 3rd act fully won me over. In Sonic Adventure 2, the game constantly teased you with Live and Learn, playing bits of it all over the place. But you never hear it go full blast until the final boss fight. And the movie did that. It's subtle, but if you're listening, the OST teases you with the song until Shadow is finally ready to LIve and Learn, where it goes full blast.
The ending of SA2 was so badass as a kid. One of the clearest memories I have of playing video games
@@OmegaSMG Literally same.
Another cool fact is the first time live and learn plays it's a slow reversed version symbolizing shadows mental state but when he redeems himself it plays normally.
Love that they gave Shadow live and learn as his leitmotiff. Absolutely genius way to subtly show that he'll grow over the course of the film.
It is NOT subtle 😭🙏
God, 2024 was literally the best time to be a Sonic fan. Sonic X Shadow Generations was a huge hit and Sonic 3 is so successful that Disney is trying to gaslight people into thinking Mufasa is doing better.
2024 is a good year to be a Sonic fan but the franchise has been doing pretty good the past four years
@@Abner-gu3veI'd say the renaissance is i full swing. Bring sonic adventure 3.
To be fair, I thought Mufasa was INSANE. I'd still say Sonic 3 was better, but if I gave Sonic 3 a 98% good score, I'd give Mufasa a 97%. It was DAMN CLOSE, but Sonic takes the cake.
@@o0_VanYsH_0o I'm pretty sure most people would disagree that they're even in the same realm of quality, but you do you.
Something I really enjoyed was Team Sonic's chemistry. Their friendship felt genuine. Sonic was definitely the leader, but all three of them had a unique and important role on the team.
Like Tails said,
"Sonic's the leader, Knuckles' the muscle, and I'm the gadget guy!"
Team Sonic feel like brothers.
Unironically one of the best portrayals of team comrodery and friendships? No one felt like second fiddle and really did contribute.
Reminds me of the Sonic Heroes video game.
Massive sonic heroes vibes
It was really funny to see Disney get so butthurt over Sonic making more at the box office and hiding replies on their own posts
Live action Sonic redemption arc. We love to see it
Sonic is not making more money than Mufasa in total worldwide box office fam, get your fact right
@@alfredokusuma9511 He's not wrong about Disney hiding replies out of bitterness.
LONG LIVE THE EDGEHOG
@@alfredokusuma9511 bc it isn't even out worldwide lmao
@@alfredokusuma9511 whether it is making more money or not, the point is that everybody is talking about sonic, and nobody is talking about Mufasa. A Mufasa movie was going to do at least slightly well regardless of whether it was necessary. That doesn’t mean the world that large was actually gonna care about it though.
I don't know why but shadow's "revenge guac" line somehow makes me chuckle a little
I like how it’s really the only time shadow himself is played for a joke, but even then it’s one that’s in character for him
guac, not quac, sorry ik it doesn’t matter but it was silly
Same with him watching the soap opera “Gabriella should kill them both”
This felt in character to me...
Boom Shadow: Fox hunting!
Movie Shadow: Revenge guac!
Quack
It was nice to see a post-credits scene again that got the whole audience REALLY hyped. Can't wait for 4.
I was surprised at how huge a response Amy got, I didn't realize that she's so popular. I guess the increased focus on her in recent years (plus de-emphasizing her being a crazy stalker) has really paid off.
I saw Sonic 3 day one, and when I tell you the whole theater SCREAMED during the post credits scene, I mean a pretty silent theater overall suddenly ERUPTED in cheering. My voice hurt a bit afterwards 😂
there were a ton of kids in my showing, and one boy in particular got VERY excited at seeing Amy, and when he asked a friend if they knew who she was, he said no. So, that kid very animatedly explained who she was, and his friends seemed pretty attentive. I think that's cute. I remember a time in fandom culture where the "know it all nerd" was looked down on, but it's cool seeing that kinda enthusiasm in real life.
@@DylanYoshiI mean going down the list, Amy is probably the last big popular Sonic character not represented in the movies yet, even during the 2000's when she was considered a "crazy stalker".
@@castform7 I dunno, I feel like Metal Sonic was more popular in the 00's and he didn't get half the reaction Amy did.
One change I really, REALLY like from the game to the movie, is that Shadow himself is the one who realizes what he's doing is wrong. In Sonic Adventure 2, they do a really flimsy job (sorry SA2 fans it's true) of having Amy convince Shadow via "oh Shadow they're good people out there if they follow their wishes.". In Sonic X, it's a bit better, with a human child Chris, convincing Shadow with a pretty compelling argument in how unfair it is of Shadow to punish a bunch of innocents for something that happened 50 years ago.
Here, it's Shadow who realizes what he's doing isn't what Maria would want. And they do this gradually, with him even going "Gabriella is not some prize to be won" when he's watching the Spanish soap opera, telling the audience even there, when his heart is full of anger, that he DOES still know what is and isn't right. When he attacked Tom, he DID seem a little bit regretful at what had happened; he saw himself in Sonic's pain and worry. But was still in too much pain himself to fully apologize and see what he was doing was wrong. And then later questioning Gerald if this is what Maria would want. And then finally when Shadow and Sonic are on the moon, he goes "This whole mess is my fault". It's just such a stronger character moment when the one doing wrong sees it, vs someone having to convince them otherwise.
The character arcs in this movie between Shadow, Sonic and Robotnik were all written INCREDIBLY well. I do wonder what the movie would've looked like if they had kept some of their original ideas, such as Tom actually not surviving Shadow's attack. How would Sonic cope with that kind of loss? Would Shadow still have been able to be redeemed? But as it is, the movie is really, really. INCREDIBLY good.
And the best part of these movies? It's cool seeing movie Sonic slowly turning into the hedgehog we know. "If you're gonna take a shot at the fastest creature in the universe, you better not miss!" is proof enough of that. I don't know what got into Sega recently, to give Sonic so many wins in the 2020s but I certainly hope they don't stop any time soon. Sonic certainly deserves his own renaissance after what he endured in the 2010s.
"Well, I won't look back, I don't need to
Time won't wait and I got so much to do"(c)
Oh my god I agree so much
The "light still shines even if the star is gone" analogy was inspired. I'm so glad they made Shadow and Maria justice on the big screen.
What I hated about the "Amy must be in Sonic 3!" conversations back when the first trailer dropped was that nobody seemed to want Amy to be in the movie for Amy herself. They just wanted her to be there for that one scene. That's so disrespectful.
I bet bro hates SA2
I remember when the trailers were coming out and people were theorizing that Shadow was gonna hurt Tom because he was a descendant of the man who shot Maria. Not only does making it an accident hit so much harder for both the audience and the characters, but it also makes Shadow realize that he's no better than the G.U.N soldiers who shot Maria. Seriously, you could *hear* Shadow's thought process as he watched Sonic try to wake up Tom even before the flashback. It was beautiful storytelling. Don't even get me started on Super Sonic vs Super Shadow.
Super Sonic vs Super Shadow was completely unexpected for me, like, it's Sonic Adventure 2, of course the two hogs are gonna go Super, but I think this is the very first time they have ever *fought* on those forms. Like, when have we ever seen a Super Form showdown?
@@silversonome5360 as far as I know, this is the second time there has been a super vs super fight, with the first being in Sonic X... Almost twenty years ago.
@@hyulens7204 Thanks for clarifying! I didn't watch Sonic X fully so I wasn't aware, I apologize for the misinformation
Sonic: "Gotta go Fast."
Shadow: "Dont tell me you got a catchphrase."
Sonic: "That's right new Hedgehog, and everyone loves it."
Not everyone
Yes
LIVE AND LEARN 🔥🔥
He’s not wrong it is iconic
@@Wrilen_Speedy_Webb my theatre burst out laughing both times I went to see this
I loved it when Sonic told shadow “ we must live and learn” and run it played
I haven't watch it, and it frankly sounds like something that would actually happen.
I wouldn't have been surprised if it actually happened considering the recent controversy
@@victzegopterix2 it actually did its rad as fuck
Sonic & Shadow turn super and I CLAAAPPED!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Also, at the beginning when he jumped out of the helicopter, he actually said "Talk about low budget flights, no food or movies? I'm out of here" from SA2.
The story for Robotnik and Agent Stone ended so beautifully, I can’t believe I was crying for them at the end. Eggman saving the world for Stone because Stone was the only person who cared for him… 🥺
Calling it now, Agent Stone is going to build a time machine.
@@BloomkyaaaCalling it rn. Stone was the one who build Metal Sonic
Calling right now, Ivo Robotnik cloned himself... a throwaway line even backs this idea up in the third act.
Oh nah is it woke
@khadishta No it is not woke... they did, however, flesh out their friendship quite nicely near the end imao.
I’m more impressed with whatever vfx wizardry they used for the two Robotniks than with any of the actual CGI, after their first scene I genuinely forgot they were played by the same actor, they interacted like any other characters would interact with each other even though they were both Jim Carey
Completely agree I kept looking to see if I can tell where a split screen was or the body double but my gosh they did it really well and Jim is playing two characters majority of the time, there’s very little CGI between them
@ actual witchcraft
Especially the laser dance scene was so impressive
I love the 4th wall break when they first meet and they do the pretend to be touching each other like in old movies when characters shared an actor but then like 2min later they're seamlessly touching and doing stuff together while both being on screen. Had me cracking up while being super impressed.
It was a great movie, even though we didn't get Shadow's infamous line:
"I just love Latinas, Sonic."
That meme didn't exist when they wrote the script. 😂
@manuelinacio4038 surely it did?
They sure loved showing shadow watching latina shows though 😂😂
@MrShazaamable i kinda wish Shadow was eating chips and guac while watching it. It would've been a fun nod to helluva boss where Stolas goes "that's a mood Gabriela." Since the movies like to reference other media outside the Sonic verse.
But yes the fact that he was actually invested in the show HAS to be a nod to the meme 😅
@@ribottostudio all they had to do was have them ask Shadow why he's invested in this to which he responds with that XD
@@C-Farsene_5OMG
IT WAS RIGHT THERE 😭
I still can’t believe we got “I PISSED ON THE MOON YOU IDIOT!!!!”
I can still remember me and my brothers going to see the movie in the theatre. We all clapped when that happened.
I was laughing about this the whole movie 😭
really??
@@al_eggsno
The pissing was a team effort.
Ben Schwartz is the master of voicing blue, cocky characters. He has played Sonic, Leo, and Dewey Duck. Maybe in the future he can voice a Smurf.
Or an Avatar character
dont forget a special black and red 9th grade ninja
And the Shapesmith from Invincible lol
GO WATCH SONIC 3 EVERYONE AGAIN AND AGAIN FOR THE BOX OFFICE🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
[● I got whiplash]
Shadow and Maria’s interaction gave me serious Up vibes! It’s not quite AS powerful but it’s like Up Junior. And that line: “ the light shines even though the star is gone” was the cherry on top, AMAZING WRITING!
Yes!!! That shit was some absolutely gorgeous writing and foreshadowing.
Generally everything with Shadow and Sonic was done so well. Their conversation on the moon just felt so real and earned.
@Zenyx64 "you always have a choice. And making the right one isn't easy. One other thing I learned, when you REALLY mess things up, you can't fix it alone."
This is some Kingdom Hearts level sht and I'm so here for it.
The „grandson and grandpa bonding time“ montage was both funny and heartwarming to me cause of how robotnik was behaving less like an over the top supervillain and more like a happy child having the time of his life with the only family he has.
Eggmans announcement being a love confession was a change I didn't expect it, but it was peak.
Gotta respect Jim Carey for hitting the cleanest running man I've seen in a while, x2😂
you should watch zanouji
This movie was so big it made Disney jealous
The Newton's 3rd law equivalent of barbenheimer
Hasn’t Mufasa made more money from than Sonic as of right now? I know box office doesn’t equate to a good movie, but still. 🤷♂️
@@dragon9slayer250that’s only because Sonic 3 hasn’t released worldwide yet
@@nihilegojelly7747 that’s true. Do you know why do they do that? Seems like a dumb strategy
Sure jealous, when this year Disney have Inside Out 2 Deadpool and Wolverine
Movies whose box office gross Sonic 3 can only dreamed of..
Sonic Fans is so full of themselves 😂
The entire ending sequence is actually phenomenal
When Eggman was explaining the catastrophic damage the explosion of the cannon would cause Earth, one small detail I like is they had Shadow actually react to that. They wouldn't need to; they could've just kept his face neutral. But he looked rather horrified at what Eggman said.
@@ribottostudio I love how they did shadow in the film, he’s just like the shadow from the games but you can tell he’s not just a heartless prick
@@RileyTheSpeedrunner541 He's definitely more like Sonic X Shadow than the 2010s bastardization of his characterization. Someone who would absolutely do things his own way, has his own moral compass, thus coming into conflict with Team Sonic, BUT someone who isn't outright heartless either. I always equate Shadow to a prism; the reason why he's such a fan favorite is his complexity and multi-faceted personality. Shadow would be someone you could feel safe with, or would make you feel threatened at the same time. And that sht is fascinating.
@ribottostudio couldn’t of said it any better myself
@@ribottostudioThis movie goes out of it's way to remind you Shadow is a child and I love it.
That fight between Super Sonic and Super Shadow was downright incredible. The amount of DAMAGE they were doing to Earth's surface needs to be talked about more though. When Sonic shoved Shadow away from the mountain, HE CAUSED A NEW FAULT LINE to emerge. Not to mention, when he launched himself at Shadow initially, the blowback from that attack caused cracks of lava to form around them that weren't there before. Sonic was so concerned about the planet Eggman wanted to destroy, but his fight with Shadow nearly destroyed it ANYWAY. Crazy.
Yeah like this is a fight on a scale I don't think has ever been seen on the big screen to this extent! Like jsut holy moly!
It’ll be interesting to see how the movie deals with that and the crack on the moon
This is basically a theoretical fight scene in a dragon ball movie if anyone could actually do it right,
Thank you. THANK YOU. oh my God those two did so much damage.
Sonic also completely utterly shattered Stonehenge when he uppercut Shadow to the moon so. There that is. Scratch that off your to see lists.
@@ribottostudio Pretty sure that was the Parthenon, either way it definitely wasn't Stonehenge (which is a small number of large stones in a field, whereas there were bricks and marble pillars and an actual floor in that scene). Still a major archaeological monument wiped off the map though.
One thing I appreciate that I don't think enough people are talking about, is that this feels like a satisfying conclusion to this trilogy not just for Sonic fans, but for fans of the Sonic movies specifically. A lot of callbacks to the first two movies that feel genuinely rewarding to see and hear, even just throwaway jokes they brought back in subtle moments. It was a lot of fun for me as someone who's seen both of these movies approximately way too many times. 😂
I wonder how 4 will take the series in a new direction for the beginning of (presumably) a new trilogy.
I loved the part where Eggman announced his bisexuality to Agent Stone, great way to come out.
“By the way I’m bisexual!” -Snapcube Sonic Riders
"Whoa, he's bisexual! I didn't know that!"
"He's bisexual i didnt know that"
im giving this diamond to my new wife and/or husband
it'll be theirs for the rest of time, with the Game Cube 2!
Simple yet effective media its so underated, glab people are starting to notice that and start giving them the love it deserves, and the Sonic movies are a great example of that.
Same as wild robot and how the third act is weakest cause it adds in a bit more unnecessary stuff for tension
I agree
Fun Fact:
The actress who played Maria Robotnik is the same girl who played Young Furiosa.
Wow. I watched both movies the same day and didn’t even realize!
Wow!
@@corey7219 The fact wasn't fun at all.
@@GUNS_jk ok
@@GUNS_jkFuriosa wasn't fun? Tf you're on about, it's peak
That dap up between Sonic and Shadow as they go super is one of the hardest things I’ve seen in a while
It's also canon to the games, although there it happens after they've already transformed and defeated the prototype of the ultimate lifeform in space.
After "Disappointment in the Game of Life: The Movie", it is nice to see Schaffrillas bouncing back with something pretty decent.
Spoiler at the end: My only complaint is that the dance scene goes on a bit too long. They could've taken away a minute of that and given it to Shadow. Other than that, this film is near perfect.
Also, this film was the very first thing to ever make me excited to see AMY FREAKING ROSE! The back row of my theater lost their minds!
True, true, but I couldn't stop laughing either way.
the dance scene was peak perfect jim carrey madness
@@LordBurger this
I even lost my mind when I heard a rendition of Eggman's modern era theme during the part where the Eclipse Cannon rises from the London waters
@@theswordboy Wait that happened?? I didn't hear it! That's awesome!
This literally dropped the moment I went to lunch. Immaculate timing for an immaculate review for a peak movie
"I might actually be a Sonic fan now"
TOTAL SONIC VICTORY
Spoilers:
I really liked how Sonic almost killed Shadow after thinking Tom died. It explicitly drew parallels between the two and how Sonic might not be so different from Shadow if under different circumstances.
That kind of parallel is something the games never did and really, could never do. Shadow was always meant to be a dark reflection of Sonic, but Sega always just defaulted to this meaning “edgelord who says damn”. It’s cool that the movies actually contrasted their characters with one another in a very unique way that incorporates a movie only character.
The murder-but-not-really scene worked on so many levels
The trauma Shadow exhibits after finding out he might have killed an innocent citizen, the unbridled rage that followed from Sonic because Shadow basically killed his father, Shadow turning a blind eye to literal murder because he deems revenge as being more important
They didn't need to put stuff like this on the movie, but I appreciate it so much you don't even know
They mostly didn’t do that in the games because Sonic is not intended to be a character like that in the games, he’s intentionally a static character and it works very well for those stories.
This movie took my soul out and wrung it out like a wet towel before throwing it back in me bc the scene where Tom nearly dies and Shadow has his flashback to how he was next to Maria in the same way and how that sows the seed of doubt about what he's doing is so well done
We never get to see Sonic genuinely so angry that he acts on it but this time he did and it was FANTASTIC
6:36 we already have Agent Stone tho. I could see him taking up the work of Robotnik out of grief, ending up causing the metal sonic takeover in the future. It already seems to be doing a Terminator/DBZ Cell Saga pastiche with Amy, so hopefully we can count out multiverse shenanigans for once and Stone can be an intimidating villain for at least one movie (before the series inevitably ends with Chaos being the villain of 5)
i think they’re leaving it open so it could either be Stone _or_ a Robotnik retrieved through time-travel/dimensional shenanigans, depending on how pre-production and re-casting go
Either Chaos or Mephiles would definitely be a good final movie villain for sure
@ChristopherLong-y9h I don’t think even most Mephiles fans would want him as the final movie villain lol. But I mean, Chaos isn’t central villain material either, he could be _the dragon_ of the final movie
@@wesshiflet2214 yeah that seems to be the case
@@moldingthegalaxy I think Agent Stone is their backup plan if Jim Carey doesn’t want to come back
The part where Sonic says "talk about low-budget flights, no food or movies... we're outta here!" is a nod to Sonic Adventure 2's opening cutscene for the Hero Story. I was practically jumping in my seat when I heard that line. Incredible fanservice.
Honestly, it’s REALLY impressive that Jim Carrey played as two people as the time. Like imagine the editing process of of them in same scene and when they’re touching they other
When people told me I was not read Sonic 3 they were right. I was expecting it to be good, but it freaking blew me away. Shadow was handled very well, the messages of the movie were handled well, the action and humor landed really well, and my God that ending. I’ve been to the movie theater many times, but never have I experienced the theater erupt into laughter or starts talking among themselves during a scene until I went to see Sonic 3
Shadow the hedgehog has buried Mufasa alive
Long Live The Ultimate Lifeform.
"All Hail Shadow."
Loooooong live the Kiiiiiing 😈
(Too soon?)
More like
TOO LATE (.EXE)@@AJHelotie
GO WATCH SONIC 3 EVERYONE FOR THE BOX OFFICE…..💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
“Oh Ivo. You’re no Maria”
Has got to be my favourite line in the whole movie. The amount of pain when Gerald said that hits different.
HE PISSED ON THE MOOOON
The live action sonic franchise is a perfect example of success by giving the fans exactly what they want. Know your demographic and feed them
The recognize they had a large blueprint for greatness and followed. Now Disney gotta buy out damn near every screen in the theaters just so Mufass can compete 😂
Perfectly said.
(Unlike other studios in Hollywood who treat their own fans with nothing but mockery)
The writers know what BALANCE is. Like Schaff said, they don't JUST bombard the audience with references. The references just so happen to be there more often than not. When Shadow and Sonic do THE pose, it feels earned vs just there. imo the only reference that felt forced was "no inflight entertainment" from SA2, because it kinda comes out of nowhere. If Sonic had JUST said "We're outta here!" I think that would've been fine enough.
Well yes and no. Because if they only focused on fan service, then you get something like Ready Player One. Fanservice done well is giving proper build up to the things fans want to see. Cause it was probably well liked in the source material for a specific reason.
That or the references are extremely brief or subtle as to not interrupt the flow of the story (like Shadow's origin hinting at Black Doom's connection or The Biolizard).
When people say they wanna see Shadow in a film, they also mean (without saying it) that they want Shadow's character explored. Not just the aesthetic but the emotion of a tragic and vengeful creature. Fans just expect you to know what they mean fully since they might not be able to express it fully.
I'm not a big sonic fan (the only game I've finished was frontiers and I love snapcube's dubs but that's about it) but I had a good time, it's nice to see a movie that pleases longtime fans as well as more casual audiences
No they don’t. They’re up in the domestic box office. Disney does not care about Sonic 3. Get this idea these stupid TH-camrs keep putting in your head in the garbage.
The best video game movie adaptation I’ve seen. It actually tries to have stronger emotional themes as well as great fans service.
1:05 to be fair that was the case in SA2's Dark Story, with how eggman and rouge mostly took centre stage over shadow (both in screentime and level quantity )
4:38 you know it's been a successful year of Shadow when it gets new Sonic fans
"I love the way you make them" at the end really felt like an "I love you"
The Jim Carrey dance number will go down as one of the greatest dance numbers in history
The Jim CarreyS dance number*
It's right up there next to Jack Black's Bowser singing Peaches. They're both equally hilarious.
Kinda wild how Sonic is a movie trilogy that progressively got better and better with each entry when I believe the last time that happened was THE LORD OF THE RINGS back in the 2000s…
Irony how all you need is a magical ring…
I think its cause nowadays movies are such a gamble that studios are just always bracing for failure and never plan for a sequel.
If you think about it, it actually makes perfect since for so ic case since there lots of lore and video games to pull from. The first movie was playing it very safe and wasn't even adapting much from the games. It was still a fine movie and was better than most was expecting but was still just a fine movie. Sonic 2 was adapting sonic 3 and knuckles and actually pulled from some of the sonic lore and was a mostly good movie. Sonic 3 was adapting arguably the game with the best lore that being sonic adventure 2. Honestly don't think sonic 4 is gonna top 3 but I can still see it being an amazing movie which is usually not the case for a 4th movie in a franchise
And Toy Story
@@SwellStuff483I’d agree with you if we didn’t account for the 4th one… GOSH that one was awful..
You know someone got converted into a Sonic fan when they not only put up clips from the games but also out of context IDW pages (6:15)
Also go read the Sonic IDW comics y'all, the Metal Virus saga is like the best zombie story in a kid's franchise ever done imo
Metal Virus is peak fiction they had me crying over Big the Cat
2:27 he did turn into Shemar Moore tho. And as a Black man, that makes him the best character in the Sonic Extended Universe for me
And Maddie turned into Kristen Ritter... All while Tom was visibly digging her disguise.
I howled with pure hyena laughter when I thought about it. 😂😂😂😭😭😭
Donut Lord & Pretzel Lady did blackface and whiteface.💀💀💀
3:18 unlike Maria
Bro chill
@ModeDriver cmon, was it not funny?
Edit: the joke I made, not maria's death
@@cracarlos_au5757
It was, I'm attempting to emphasize how unhinged it was too
@@ModeDriver oh ok, misread the room, sorry, and thanks
Props to Schaff for staying up and doing a review at 1:30 AM
we need fanart of Shadow shooting Mufasa dead with a gun
We have him pushing him over the cliff side.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I saw it last Saturday and I can die happy after watching such banger trilogy all in theaters.
I saw it last Saturday, too.
@@westerfrost3701 Cool! Did you like the movie?
@ Yeah, I did. It was great!
@@directorAREESHthe movie was peak
One thing I love of the Sonic movies is how genuine fun the actors are having. Like, seeing Idris Elba gushing about Knucles and using Knucles' mittens to record his lines is just cute. Same with Carrey and now Keanu.
Even if the movies were not great, just knowing how much fun the actors have behund the scenes is just heartwarming
At 5:41 when you said "speaking of characters dying" it cut to an ad with Patrick Stewart and I desperately hope that's not foreshadowing.
I got a Mr beast ad, I hope that IS foreshadowing.
I got a mobile game ad
I got a mufasa ad. It was indeed foreshadowing.
"Weird! Weird!"
The children at my screening lost their minds during the first post-credits scene.
Personally, I was never big on Sonic growing up so I was somewhat indifferent to it. Nonetheless, happy that fans are getting what they want and hopefully it leads to more good video game movies (i.e. Sly Cooper).
Sly was supposed to have a movie in 2016, but it got canned when ratchet and clank’s film failed
@@DamnZtar Probably for the best given that Ratchet and Clank wasn't very good.
What do you mean the "first" post-credits scene. Was there another one in 3?
@MrJakeros There was, but it wasn't anything special. It played after the second set of credits (the ones after the first post credits scene) and was just a short scene confirming Shadow survived, which pretty much everyone knew was the case. We already knew they weren't gonna kill off the second most popular character in the franchise in his debut movie.
if we get another banger of a street fighter movie i will lose it
I love what they did to maddie after what happened to tom, shes not that typical person where her lover nearly died and want everyone to get out and not come back but NO
She's just too stunned to speak she still cares for sonic, tails, and knuckles, and doesnt blame them for what happened
Shoutout to Schaff for dropping his most mentally taxing video in a long time and then posting this just 3 days later.
4:30 and yes this is Terminal
As someone who played adventure 2 battle on his uncles GameCube and and religiously watched Sonic X I have to say this movie is everything 9 year old me and 19 year old me could have ever wanted.
I laughed I cried, it moved me bob
Is that a Veggietales reference 😂 I love it
I watched this today and I’ve been really bummed out about other stuff. Thank you so much for this video man you know me so well.
You know an actor deserves an Oscar when they have more chemistry with them self then the entire cast has with every other member combined
The best thing about this movie is seeing Disney SEETHING bc it blew Mufasa out of the park, truly peak cinema
I swear the smash cut between Shadow's sparking eye to the roasting marshmallow back at the campsite is living in my head rent free
Somebody give the editors a raise!
1:39 You could say he was... Playing with himself????
You totally could! But I will not
What are you doing here?
freaky
2:16 Please God, let this happen. It would be so funny
Oh, I am not only stoked for Sonic 4, but I'm thinking there's going to be a Shadow movie on the horizon. PLEASE give us Black Doom on the big screen, that'd be so COOL.
Not sure about a shadow movie, but possibly a shadow and knuckles show, not comfirmed but a possibility
My hope is that we can see my favorite character, Omega.
Eggman's comment about Cloning Stone is the way back into the franchise for Carey if he wants to come back.
I'm not a crier, but surprisingly this was the movie that made me tear up TWICE. It was a banger, I adore what they've done for Shadow and Knuckles, and I almost want to consider myself a Sonic fan again
I loved that movie so much. My favorite part is that Gerald Robotnik makes a joke about the 2011 _Green Lantern_ movie. As someone whose special interests include Sonic and Green Lantern it felt like a joke that had been written specifically for me.
this highway is so radical i just saw someone who was _definitely_ sonic rip out a gun soldiers spinal column
Love the fact that Sonic being movie of the year was a joke in 2020, but three movies in Sonic 3 is unironically one of the best blockbusters of the year.
It’s impressive to have a trilogy of movies that get better with each installment but to have Sonic be associated with said trilogy is absolutely wild and well deserved for the shit this franchise has been through. We’re in a golden age of Sonic and it looks to be amazing.
Was I the only one that kinda got Guardians Vol. 3 vibes from Shadow's backstory?
If you know, then you know.
Oh yeah. That's a good comparison. Both lost special people in their lives and became jaded and hardened characters.
And they use guns. Lol
Good comparison, I see it now.
That’s not a bad comparison
Shadow and Rocket are already fairly similar characters.
Angry, edgy animals that use guns, made as an experiment, suffered and lost so much.
I personally think Rocket is much more well-written and has more consistent personality than most Shadow iterations throughout the series.
But Yeah, Theres definitely some similarities.
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You think James Gunn borrowed elements of Shadow's origins just out of pure coincidence?
I went into this movie knowing that it was either going to be a 0/10 or a 10/10, with no inbetween. To get to 10/10, it had to have:
1. Super Sonic and Super Shadow
2. Flying through space
3. While Live and Learn plays
All 3 three of these things had to happen at once, or else it was going to be a 0/10 from me.
And ladies and gentlemen, I am happy to report that I can officially give this movie a 10/10
You know? I didn’t expect those 3 things.
Can’t wait for Black Doom to send Shadow to Radical Highway in Shadow’s movie…
the devil from da bible?
“Heyyyy what’s uppppp it’s meeeeee”
@@sonictiger6716the devillllll. Here to convince you to do siiiiin! 😂😂
“I just think Radical Highway is so cool.”
0:07 proper sonic 3 reviewing conditions. In the shadows
me and my brother saw this at the theater with my school lunch group. it was scarily impressive how jim carrey was able to pull off the comedic and power hungry robotnik we all know and love while being able to act out a terrifying and equally hilarious gerald robotnik. props the legend of an actor
2:52 I was about to leave the theatre when he said “konichwhaaa?”
No you weren’t
6:41 problem is, Eggman Nega doesn’t have a large fanbase like at all, in fact, Ian Flynn (the current writer for the games) confirmed that Eggman Nega died after the events of Sonic Rivals 2 mainly due to how fans didn’t care about his character.
It’s placeholder. It’s just for the idea that a past Robotnik or an alternate cast is an option from here that would honor the last hurrah this one had, while maintaining Sonic having a version of his arch enemy.
@@runningoncylinders3829 also Eggman Nega is Eggman’s descendant, not an AU version. He just calls himself Eggman Nega and pretends to be an AU Eggman,
@@chadpeterson5698 I think that’s the Rivals lore which they maintain. Sonic is no stranger to retcon, including the debacle of Classic Sonic being from the past or even another dimension. It’s tough what that left Sonic Rush with, since Blaze is a very cool character from debut.
They are likely just going to have Metal by himself be the bad guy. Not only is he iconic enough that nobody would question if he deserves the role, but they would have "What I'm made of" as a perfect fit for the finale.
@@Neonlight3934 Metal is usually quiet (except in Heroes forms), I think he’d still have someone pulling the strings, even if that person isn’t Carrey’s Dr Robotnik.
Yes also 7:39 eppy Godzilla
6:47 i am definitely curious what Schaff thinks of Amy , since he hasn’t followed the Sonic franchise much until recently , I’m not sure if has a lot of opinions on Amy besides a couple of glances or scenes , since he did say he’s not a big fan of Amy , so he’s def seen a bit of her character to form that opinion lol , but I can probably guess what he thinks of her , if he didn’t like peach for a while until recently yeah there’s no shot he would like Amy lmao
3:23 there goes Hawaii, there goes Hawaii, the island is gone~
2:10 Yes!!! Lee was also amazing. Has great chemistry with Jim. And Jim trusted him enough to cut his hair on camera. Shaved the whole thing for real and make it part of the movie.
I cant believe Sonic of all things broke the Video Game Movie curse
My favorite part was when they played fire starter by the prodigy in the movie when robotnik got his makeover.
I clapped.
That song choice made me so happy. These movies know what we want.
I think the only time they made Eggman this emotional in the games was Sonic Frontiers, and obviously, Sonic Adventure 2.
Yeah. Great games too imo
SA2 Eggman was certainly emotional, but not THIS emotional
@ true
This is a very solid adaptation of the Story of SA2/Shadow the Hedgehog. Don’t get me wrong I have problems with it but as a Sonic fan, I was really excited to see this one and I just felt really good when moments happened such as both of them powering up, the flashbacks with Maria and the turn to the good side of Eggman and Shadow (tbf the movie lacked suprise for me due to me already knowing the story, to their credit though that’s not necessarily a bad thing)
When I finally saw this movie yesterday during the scene where Shadow tells Maria how he "Doesn't know who he is." During the short quiet moment a young boy a few rows ahead of me said "He's a hedgehog." Made the moment 100 times better and had me and my girlfriend burst out laughing