Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce 2.2D - A great car with one big flaw

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  • Mario tests the Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce 2.2D - A great car with one big flaw: a Diesel engine...
    The test vehicle was provided by Alfa Romeo Switzerland.
    The opinions stated in this video are personal views of each individual tester.
    No violation of traffic laws were committed for the recording of this video. Some camera angles and the edited sound recorded in close proximity to the exhaust may suggest a higher speed than was actually driven.
    Respect the traffic rules and nobody gets harmed.

ความคิดเห็น • 101

  • @alfagtv6100
    @alfagtv6100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Sehr schöner Test. Den Drive Mode legst Du ganz einfach durch ein kleines ziehen am + Paddel ein. Kleiner Tip.👍 Fahre selber eine Q4 mit 280 PS ist immer wieder eine Freude

    • @andy500w
      @andy500w 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hattest du zuverlässigkeits Probleme?Mit Motor und Technik?

  • @The17Driver
    @The17Driver 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    La meccanica delle emozioni....Pure italian passion

  • @bujarjonuzi7453
    @bujarjonuzi7453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Das Auto ist ein Traum das beste Auto am Markt

  • @Ziga91
    @Ziga91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    La frecciatina riguardate il livello scolastico italiano potevi davvero risparmiartela...
    Potrai fare mille elogi nella prova di quest’auto ma la gente ricorderà sempre l’unica cosa sbagliata che hai detto.
    Un video ottimo con un grande difetto...

    • @parishalex8848
      @parishalex8848 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ma non lo vedi che un imbecille che non capisce niente di macchine in Svizzera fino alla seconda guerra mondiale andavano in giro col ciuccio e adesso fa il dotto del cazzo l'Alfa si e ispirata alla BMW come mi fa ridere forse e il contrario ciccio imbecille

    • @CCPBelli3
      @CCPBelli3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Parisi Sandro Vedo che pure tu ti appoggi ai luoghi comuni, riportando cose non vere.
      E comunque FCA ha detto chiaramente che se la Giulia doveva rubare mercato a BMW andava creato un prodotto per certi versi simili alla Serie 3. Notizie pubbliche riportate dalla stampa specializzata.

    • @mrfrancy0154
      @mrfrancy0154 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@parishalex8848 negli anni 60 era BMW che prendeva spunto da Alfa Romeo ahaha

    • @parishalex8848
      @parishalex8848 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      esatto la Bmw ha comprato il brevetto dell' ISETTA da un italiano che costruiva frigoriferi seno falliva comprati un bel libro e studia attentamente

    • @danilo367
      @danilo367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      io vedo un italiano frustrato scappato in svizzera, sicuramente con tutte le sue buone motivazioni, alla guida di una grande auto con un gran motore che viene definito difetto in questa prova, bhe personalmente ognuno ha le sue esigenze questo diesel può essere preferito al 280cv per ovvi aspetti che non stiamo qui a discutere, io provengo dai jtdm coppia ed ignoranza a volontà magari una persona fortunata economicamente chiama i diesel "difetti" che dire

  • @CamperIV
    @CamperIV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry I don't speak Swiss but this is such a good review, very well said, you covered all the important details and presented the car in a greay way! I'm buying a Diesel Giulia soon so this helped me a lot :D Thank you

  • @francescolento3600
    @francescolento3600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gli italiani con il loro sistema scolastico costruiscono le alfa,le Maserati, le Ferrari.... Voi in Svizzera cosa costruite, che case automobilistiche avete? Cosa avete inventato?
    Ricorda sempre che abbiamo qualche difetto, ma siamo dei geni... Questo è OGGETTIVO! ciao bello!

    • @TsO.la.pazzia.è.normalità
      @TsO.la.pazzia.è.normalità ปีที่แล้ว

      Ben detto francè 😂 tutti ce criticano ma in pochi ce superano…. E quando la guidavano na berlina così se non là progettavamo noi 😂😂😂😂 💪🏻

  • @fatmikeonbike8364
    @fatmikeonbike8364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ein bisschen schade das Autos wie der 159 2,4 vergessen werden. Gemessen für damalige Verhältnisse war der nämlich auch mit vorne dabei. Auch in punkto Fahrleistungen und Handling. Ich spreche hier nicht von der Rennstrecke sondern für das wofür man einen großen Diesel kauft. Autobahn und Überland flottes fahren ohne die dicke Verbrauchskeule.

    • @Jakub1991Jozwik
      @Jakub1991Jozwik 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ich hab den 159 mit dem 2.4 JTDm Motor und der liegt bei knappen 9,8L gemischt. Bei 120 liegt der Verbrauch bei knappen 6,5L, bei 140 bei 7,5L, 180 bei 8,5L und 220 sind 11L. In der Stadt steigt der Verbrauch schnell auf 12L bzw bei stockendem Verkehr auf 18L+.
      Also flott fahren ist nicht Sparsam

  • @richardphelps9301
    @richardphelps9301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the Diesel Giulia and I love it. The only issue I’ve had is a blocked drain from the AC which cost only £70 to have cleared. I would love the QV but the fuel economy of the diesel is by far the biggest advantage.

  • @trip241267
    @trip241267 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    bella prova, divertente e professionale insieme

  • @FilippoFontanella
    @FilippoFontanella 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ragazzo molto competente e preparato. Non la solita prova allungata per fare brodo ma davvero ricca. Complimenti, iscritto! Un saluto!!

  • @bananajoe123
    @bananajoe123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Das Problem ist nicht der Diesel, sondern die Zylinderanzahl und Hubraum. Ein 3.0 V6 oder R6 Diesel würde wesentlich angenehmer klingen.

  • @Gunsdings1234
    @Gunsdings1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Das mit den Wählhebeln hatte ich on den ersten 10min. Raus...war nie ein Problem.
    Der Stelvio hat alles was man braucht..auch genug Platz und kann auch sportlich als sparsamer Diesel!!!... bsld kommt der Tonale da gehts auch hinten wenn man 1.84m gross ist!

  • @abdelghanisentissi9602
    @abdelghanisentissi9602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bonjour Alfa Romeo.
    Excellente voiture. J'adore beaucoup.

  • @luckystrike656
    @luckystrike656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:05 the beauty in front of you
    The 166!!

  • @ohneradis
    @ohneradis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tolles Review! Alles gut erklärt

  • @paologaviglio1856
    @paologaviglio1856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Giulia the best!!

  • @cly4588
    @cly4588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Also mir ist das egal, wenn man Auto nicht selber lenkt. Ich mag auch keine Digitalen Displays...

  • @alessandropetrignani6300
    @alessandropetrignani6300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Io sono già alla seconda Giulia e ne sono entusiasta. Un' auto davvero eccellente e proposta ad un prezzo abbastanza equo in rapporto alla qualità generale. Poi, chi ha un' Alfa diventa Alfista...e non è poco !!!

    • @francesco9457
      @francesco9457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hai provato la 180cv e la veloce 210cv con trazione integrale? Differenze, quale consigli?

    • @alessandropetrignani6300
      @alessandropetrignani6300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ho una b-tech 190 CV diesel, un tiro e una leggerezza di guida incantevole. Ho amici alfisti che hanno la Q4, sono contenti

  • @Stab1982
    @Stab1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations on the video. It's the first I see on the network where they talk about the "real" back space. How tall is your friend? and you?

  • @michelebonvini6083
    @michelebonvini6083 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    come on , don't be stubborn! It's like 6.3 Amg that was 6.208 cm3 ... Btw great review!

  • @KennenSieKino
    @KennenSieKino 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Echt faires Review. Ich mag die Giulia. Der Diesel treckert allerdings arg.

  • @francobruno8203
    @francobruno8203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In schweiz reißt ein fiat 500 ,1950😅😀mit 30 PS
    Max 120kh

  • @horobirke
    @horobirke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dein Beitrag hat mir sehr gut gefallen. Ich finde das Auto ist sehr schön geschnitten. Würde ich mir eine Julia kaufen können, wäre die Entscheidung der Motorisierung nicht einfach. Ich fahre viel Kilometer, daher ggf. eher ein Diesel, aber der Benziner scheint mir auch sehr verlockend. Bist Du den beide Motorisierungen schon gefahren?
    Danke und Gruß, Holger

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ich bin den 280PS-Benziner nur im Stelvio gefahren und finde zumindest in dem Auto, dass der Benziner nicht den Aufpreis in Verbrauch wert ist. Der 210 PS Diesel in der Giulia ist wirklich sehr gut.

    • @horobirke
      @horobirke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swisscarguy danke für Deine Antwort.

  • @BojanBojovic
    @BojanBojovic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, although at the end subtitles are all German, then French, then English again. 🙂
    Good car, no matter the engine. QV and petrol engines are good, but economy is very important factor.

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment, Bojan. I have now corrected the English subtitles. I must admit, they were an automatic translation and obviously in part not translated at all. 😅
      But yes, the Giulia is indeed a good car.

    • @BojanBojovic
      @BojanBojovic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SwissReviews Thank you. Please, could you tell me more about interior quality, to be more specific squeaks and rattle of interior panels?
      This was always Alfa's weekness, however with 159 this was solved almost completely, I would say almost the same as any Audi or VW.
      Some reviewers say that Giulia interior feels OK, but not totally as some German car, while some others say it is full of many strange sounds coming from the interior panels.
      Thanks...

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly, I did not notice any squeaks or rattles. It seemed well put together. However, that can always vary from car to car and even German cars are not always immune to this.
      Except for the plasticky multifunction dial the material quality seemed nice.
      It always depends on what you compare it to. I think it holds up really well against a BMW 3-Series or Audi A4. Of course, higher end cars like a Mercedes E-Class or a Range Rover Velar have a more luxurious interior but I feel the Alfa's is pretty (especially with the sports seats). I think the Giulia's interior is a plus for the car not a negative point. It is possible, that rivals might have slightly better quality interiors, but the Giulia's feels more special when you drive it. And for me it's all about how the car makes you feel.
      That said, it's always best to make up you own mind. Go to a dealer and have a look for yourself. Or better yet, have a test drive. 😉
      By the way, the Stelvio has pretty much the same interior (with a bit more room in the back) but is nowhere near as nice to drive as the Giulia.

    • @BojanBojovic
      @BojanBojovic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SwissReviews Thanks. I already decided, Giulia will be my next car, I just ask because you have some real world experience with a regular Giulia. 🙂

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good choice. But I have only driven that car for a week. You might want to check forums to see what actual owners have to say about it.

  • @paologaviglio1856
    @paologaviglio1856 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Si condivido, la Giulia è una gran macchina va benissimo ed è ottima praticamente in tutti i suoi aspetti proprio come si dice qui nel video.
    La Giulia è fantastica da comprare subito!!!

  • @lukasb9697
    @lukasb9697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welchen Schweizer Dialekt sprichst du eigentlich?

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thurgau/St.Gallen

    • @lukasb9697
      @lukasb9697 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swisscarguy hätte ich mir fast gedachtm hab Freunde die ich von Autotreffen kommen und wenn die ihr Schwitzerdütsch auspacken dann klingt das auch so

  • @marka.2484
    @marka.2484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great car! I just ordered one (Veloce Diesel). Just one remark: It is really disturbing to me that about 50% of all "car journalists" refer to the "A" of "DNA", as "All-weather". It actually stands for "Advanced Efficiency". A little, thorough research of the car you're testing and showing to the public, would have told you so. Is it laziness or lack of respect to your viewers?

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely lack of respect. 🤭
      Honestly, when Alfa Romeo first introduced the DNA the A actually stood for "All Weather". They re-branded it for the Giulia's release but I don't tend to keep up with marketing speech. It's basically still the same thing, just with a greener name.

    • @marka.2484
      @marka.2484 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swisscarguy Hahaha, great answer! You're forgiven... ;-)

    • @jijdom
      @jijdom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does that car make a lot of diesel sound?

    • @pgivno4241
      @pgivno4241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lack of profesionalism, i say.

  • @mrfrancy0154
    @mrfrancy0154 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:50, secondo me sottosterza a causa dell'ESP perché quando entra fa un po' sottosterzare l'auto

  • @migi1674
    @migi1674 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    bella la recensione con lo sfondo razzista al minuto 11:33... complimenti!!!

    • @migi1674
      @migi1674 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      non riuscire a capire che è una questione commerciale dire 2.2 è un po' limitante

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Grazie, non riuscire a capire che è una battuta è un po' limitiante.

    • @migi1674
      @migi1674 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Battuta mal riuscita a mio parere. Cmq per il resto una buona recensione.

  • @olioriginal9261
    @olioriginal9261 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey....das isch z bestä was alfa bis itz uf d gummi‘s gstellt het...z üsserä isch definitiv gschmackssach.i minä augä heck absolut bombä,d front es bitzeli zu klassisch..aber wemä när d qv aluegt,geit eim doch fasch einä ab.?när di leistigswärtä u das zu däm pris.?
    Bravo alfa!💪

  • @vitomerlo
    @vitomerlo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sto valutando l'acquisto di una nuova auto usata ;-). Ovviamente, la prima della lista è proprio la Giulia, diesel, automatica, ma ahimè solo super 180cv. Per il mio budget, al momento, sono orientato al modello pre-restyling. Potrebbe valerne la pena di attendere ancora qualche mese e arrivare alla versione più tech 2020? Complimenti per la recensione e per il canale. See you later

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ciao Vito. Veramente non penso che ci sarà chissà che salto di qualità in quanto a tecnologie sul nuovo modello. In essenza la macchina sarà la stessa e forse - al meno in quanto intrattenimento - ci potrebbero essere delle soluzioni after-market per aggiornare un modello un po' più anziano, se proprio necessario. in quell'ambito la Giulia effettivamente non è il massimo, ma non fa certo schifo. Se puoi realizzare un risparmio notevole prendendo il modello pre-facelift, non ci penserei sopra due volte. La Giulia già era ottima da quando è uscita e non penso ti perdi assai prendendo la versione 'vecchia'.

  • @sillie5256
    @sillie5256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wieso Makel? Es gibt Autos die mit elektromotor angetrieben werden! Das finde ich viel schlimmer!

  • @christiangiani1604
    @christiangiani1604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quale sarebbe il grande difetto?

    • @antonioscarmato4289
      @antonioscarmato4289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Il motore Diesel, ruvido e rumoroso.

  • @bullforce6895
    @bullforce6895 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top design, top display, allrs top ABER ZU SCHWACH DIE LEISTUNG, ONLY 210 HP

  • @elia8900
    @elia8900 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Persona equilibrata, recensione seria

  • @pieroborrelli2611
    @pieroborrelli2611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AVREMO PURE UN SISTEMA SCOLASTICO “DIVERSO” MA NOI ITALIANI FACCIAMO TRA LE MIGLIORI AUTO AL MONDO E LA GIULIA È SENZA DUBBIO LA MIGLIORE BERLINA SPORTIVA AL MONDO NELLA SUA CATEGORIA PER PIACERE DI GUIDA, PERSINO BMW SI È DOVUTA METTERE A INSEGUIRE LE PRESTAZIONI SU STRADA DELLA GIULIA CON LA ULTIMA SERIE 3. MICA CIOCCOLATINI (SVIZZERI)...

    • @Lubsoing2011
      @Lubsoing2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Permalosone! Dai sopportala una battutina... alla fine mi sembra che la macchina gli sia piaciuta.

  • @francescofoti4534
    @francescofoti4534 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Italia il gasolio costa meno della benzina! E comunque hanno fatto anche la veloce a benzina, oltre che la QV.

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Avendo guidato la Stelvio con il benzina da 280cv devo dire che il Diesel non è una cattiva scelta.

    • @squalopazzo5178
      @squalopazzo5178 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I motori diesel di Fiat sono tra i migliori in produzione mai sentiti problemi e hanno ottime prestazioni..certo il benzina è un altra storia ma 210 cavalli non passano mica inosservati!!

  • @stefkorn
    @stefkorn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Naja .. Wenn man eben ein Diesel braucht dann soll man einen nehmen und sich übers Drehmoment freuen. Die 4-Zylinder Benziner die man für die Giulia kriegt machen das Auto jetzt nicht wesentlich aufregender oder charaktervoller.. das sind irgendwo auch nur Einheitsbreimotoren ohne viel italienische Ader. Natürlich sieht das beim V6 schon wieder anders aus..

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So ist es. Zu der Zeit hatte ich den Benziner noch nicht gefahren und jetzt muss ich sagen, dass der Diesel nicht viel schlechter ist. Danke für den Kommentar.

    • @robertodisalle824
      @robertodisalle824 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SwissReviews Danke für das video und überhaupt für die Untertitel. Ich schreibe auf italienisch weil auf deutsch noch nicht perfekt kann.. la giulia, bella macchina, fatta bene, bei motori e tanta tecnologia e sono contento! Per quanto riguarda l'estetica non ė brutta! Ma credetemi, il vero design Alfa Romeo è qualcos'altro! Purtroppo c'ė tanto design bmw nella giulia.. e anche altro..

    • @rebel8305
      @rebel8305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roberto Di Salle
      Negli anni sessanta la BMW iniziò a copiare l'Alfa Romeo.

  • @gianmarcoventuri8991
    @gianmarcoventuri8991 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Den Markel hab ich nicht verstanden?!

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nagelnder Dieselmotor. 😪

    • @rebel8305
      @rebel8305 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SwissReviews
      Haha, Schwätzer nicht einmal mal mein Alfa Romeo GT 1.9 JTD nagelt mach mal ein 5W50 Vollsynthetisch Öl rein und du wirst sehen das nageln hört auf ihr ingenieure, haha.

    • @KennenSieKino
      @KennenSieKino 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SwissReviews ja leider. Ganz meine Meinung

  • @ricardobarrios4159
    @ricardobarrios4159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy has no right to complain, there are gasoline options.

  • @kiraellis62
    @kiraellis62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ragazzi io ho una Giulia 2.2180cv disel e de o dire che consuma un cazzo ! E quando e in modalità( D) va che una meraviglia spinge è la senti spingere dal culo! La benzina a una marcia in più solo perché non ce il fap che ogni tanto fa il reciclo .Comunque se dovessi prendere un giorno la Giulia a benzina tutta la vità la quadrifoglio!✌

  • @naiart82
    @naiart82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Schoene 166 vor dich am 8:50!

  • @GLLORIANRAMAJ
    @GLLORIANRAMAJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eif durch arbon am chäsle de brüeder

  • @makc9646
    @makc9646 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ist das wieder ein Fiat Motor ?

    • @jamessmithe
      @jamessmithe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alle Dieselmotoren, die in der Fiat-Gruppe bei Personenwagen verwendet werden, sind Entwicklungen von Fiat Powertrain Technologies. Das war schon damals beim weltweit ersten Commonrail -Diesel im Alfa 156 der Fall.

    • @massimobernardo-
      @massimobernardo- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alle Giulia-Stelvio-Motoren sind neu, sowohl Benzin (2.0L und 2.9L) als auch Diesel (2.2L) sind aus Aluminium gefertigt.

    • @sexyhelena8488
      @sexyhelena8488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No il motore è tutto ALFA ROMEO......Made in ALFA ROMEO S.P.A. non c'è nulla di Fiat o derivati . In passato ALFA e FIAT hanno unito le sinergie essendo nello stesso gruppo per creare qst motori diesel........ALFA ROMEO con la Giulia ha voluto creare un motore diesel tutto suo!

  • @fotoszcreaktiv67
    @fotoszcreaktiv67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ok, Alfa Romeo, ma che palle sta lingua tedesca

  • @pas8ighty7even44
    @pas8ighty7even44 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Il difetto è uno chi la guida ma che ignoranza vuole confrontare il diesel con benzina...

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Certo, e perché no? Mica è vietato confrontare Diesel e benzina. Personalmente preferisco i motori a benzina. Ma come anche detto nel video, il motore in questo caso è buono e la macchina ottima.

  • @francesco74ful
    @francesco74ful 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    e allora comprala a benzina

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Veramente, il benzina 280cv, a parte il suono, alla guida non è che dia molta più soddisfazione del Diesel. E la Quadrifoglio c'è solo a trazione posteriore, cosa un po' scomoda d'inverno.

    • @robertmalabre6705
      @robertmalabre6705 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Francesco d'elia i

  • @Watcher1867
    @Watcher1867 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Der einzige Makel ist, dass das Fahrzeug nur 4 Zylinder und nur 210 PS hat - und dass es keinen Kombi gibt.

  • @marino4691
    @marino4691 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    de typ isch 100pro en sangaller hahahahhaaha
    me weiss jedoziit wa dVodorädo am mache sind. lol

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thurgauer, bitteschön. 😁

  • @giofu17
    @giofu17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sistema scolastico italiano sicuro è meglio del vostro

    • @swisscarguy
      @swisscarguy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sicuro! 🤣

    • @TsO.la.pazzia.è.normalità
      @TsO.la.pazzia.è.normalità ปีที่แล้ว

      Giovà, ma lasciali perdere dai… loro giustamente producono cioccolatini dai… 😂 Quando faranno Ferrari Alfa Romeo Maserati ecc ne riparleremo 😂

  • @cihanozoguz
    @cihanozoguz ปีที่แล้ว

    Rechtige dommschnorriiii