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Girl Chat: Let's Talk About Adele's Speech
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2024
- Did Adele go too far by mentioning race during her Grammy acceptance speech? The ladies of "The Real" and guest bro-host Gary Owen share their thoughts during this Girl Chat. Share yours in the comments.
Am I the only one who didn't think anything was wrong with Adele's speech? Saying "my black friends" wasn't a mistake at all. She meant what she said damn it. The album was to empower black women and she acknowledged it rightfully so because no one else had the guts to point it out. There was nothing wrong with what she said. And no Loni, she shouldn't have left "black" out because it was important that she acknowledged her black friends and how they felt. That's what's wrong with us. We cringe when someone brings up race, and that's exactly why progress is slow if not stagnant. Im proud and I appreciate Adele acknowledging race in her speech because I'm pretty sure the academy didn't give a damn about the political significance of Lemonade.
Loriana Hines I agree. it's not like she said " how you made my black friend" lol obviously, she has black friends who enjoyed and shared their enjoyments and thoughts with her. idk. I know race is a touchy subject so to each their own but I personally didn't think she meant any harm.
Loriana Hines people make a issue about everything surrounding beyonce. remember when cheating rumors started about jay z and some white girl and these crazy fans started threatening her without knowing any truth. fans r mad cuz she didnt win. nothing else
Loriana Hines I don't get it either. I don't anyone who felt something was wrong with what she said.
Loriana Hines I totally agree there was nothing wrong with her speech and I wasn't offended at all. Some people like to make a big deal out of nothing.
Well, I believe her album was worthy of winning along with her crazy fans. Lemonade, regardless of whether ppl like Beyoncé or think she is overrated, is an artistic and political masterpiece in my opinion. However, Adele's 25 was definitely more of a vocal masterpiece and she deserved her Grammy for sure. I just don't see anything wrong with her homage to Beyoncé.
Another stupid discussion. Had Adele just said, "the way it made my friends feel," it wouldnt have made the point that she was trying to express and everyone would of been confused as to what she was talking about. Lemonade WAS FOR BLACK WOMEN. Adele was saying that she recognized how it made the BLACK WOMEN in her life feel. By removing the word "Black," the statement wouldnt of had the same meaning.
TheRebeccaMills1 my thoughts exactly!
TheRebeccaMills1 preeeeeach girl! I'm so tired of the overly sensitive politically correct crap! Loni have several seats girl!
Obviously ...she meant no harm they come for the wrong people...all these rappers who diss black women yet they still listen to them
I wish more people understood this
THANK YOU. I was searching for someone to check these women. They ALWAYS manage to destroy any conversation on any issue of depth. I am honestly getting tired of it.
Adele is ENGLISH. English ppl are not as hung up abt race as us AMERICANS are. That's why she spoke the truth without fear of backlash. She was speaking from the heart. Of course Bey's album greatly impacted her black friends. Living in London really opened my eyes to the deep race issues we have in this country. It is not the same way in other white countries.
lol. your not from england right? you know nothing about england apparantly
Shootinputin 185 She is clearly focusing on London, where Adele is from. I am personally from London and race isn’t really an issue here.
Same in Australia 😅
It's Kells thank you so much for these comments at least some people understand ❤️❤️❤️
Shootinputin 185 are you from england ?? Because it’s kells was pretty correct
she said black friends because the album was a dedication to black women. so a white woman watching and listening to Lemonade is going to have a different experience than a black woman listening to it and watching it.
Adele's speech saved the snub for me. She was altogether classy and she really embodied the conversation blacks are trying to have with whites about privilege. I love when she said, "The way you make my black friends feel is empowering"...she understands the need for conversation and she wasn't afraid to say that Lemonade impacted her and rightfully deserved the award. That and it was completely genuine. That speech was a VERY important moment.
I understand that too. I'm from just outside of Toronto and our communities were very multicultural. Ultimately, to get offended is petty and misses the general motive of her speech.
O'Neil Gerald I love your comment and I completely agree. I wish everyone viewed her speech like this. This comment needs to be at the top.
O'Neil Gerald privilege? Beyoncé is a millionaire, had Adele not praised the almighty Beyoncé you telling me you'd be crying white privilege? Lmao awww the rich black girl didn't win a shiny award to take home to her huge mansion. So unfair 🙄😳
jael hi Jael, are you trying to say a white person or any non black person for that matter can't acknowledge someone else's blackness if they DIDN'T grow up around black people?
Not at all. It's not about "crying white privilege". It's about the willingness to have the conversation about it. Adele was willing, which was important. And I don't think you understood my point.
Best comment I saw online was "Adele kanyed herself before Kanye could Kanye her."
Aqua Mina hahahahahaha
Aqua Mina 😂😂love this
that is Hilarious!! #KanyegotAdeled!! LMAO
I like what adele did more than kanye
yeah me too! that's why #KanyegotAdeled get it lol
But the gag is, Adele was already invited to the bbq AND made the mac & cheese...
Dead Ass though
#ThatPart.......💯💯💯
Now she is invited I agree with that buttttt making the Mac and cheese lets not get carried away lol
Let her bring saltines for the chili
simply kenisha right i was about to say lets not take it to far mac and cheese is sacred she might have seasoned one slab of ribs
for Loni to be a comedian she sure does take everything offensively
My damn she does like...so sensitive
passion4color30 cancers lol very sensitive
She does!!!!
She is extreamly annoying and stupid at times
So true. She was annoying here..
Loni there's a reason why Adele specifically referred to her black friends as opposed to just saying "friends." She was referring to the cultural significance of the album and seeing how her black friends enjoyed the music in a different way than she ever could was particularly important because it was so empowering to them. It meant something more, soemthing different to her black friends than it did to her. It was a very important distinction.
People have to build a backbone this generation
pixigirl999 perfectly said. i would've said 'Loni the uneducated pig is so shallow and entitled she can't understand the genuinity of what Adele said"
pixigirl999 finally somebody gets it..damn! 👏🔥
pixigirl999 Well said!! Yes!!
It wasn't Adele's black friends collecting the Awards, it was Adele. She knew that Beyonce was deserving and she should have said so. If she really wanted to make a serious point she would have tied herself to that narrative instead of roping in her "Black" friends. It's all good for Adele to "talk" about the Black struggle, but talk is cheap, how about she show some real solidarity? It was all good standing up there trying to act all revolutionary and making some meaningless gesture of splitting the award in to two, yet, she still received all the Grammys handed to her and went home with everything.If she was looking to genuinely highlight an injustice, she should have thrown in her lot 100% and let the chips fall where they may. Marlon Brando is one artist who never played, he talked the talk and walked the walk.
Was she supposed to say, "My African American friends." Or "My People of Color friends?" Like, my dude I'm black I didn't find that problematic AT ALL. Like ok... she wasn't rude or offensive at all.
Wicked Elphaba lmao "my people of color friends"
8SeventeenForever That's so awkward though. I mean it's politically correct but idk. I didn't have a problem with it. It was no where near as bad as that one chick on the red carpet who had that, Make America Great Again, dress.
Wicked Elphaba thing is she's from London, we don't call each other African American (for obvious reasons lol) we literally just say 'black friend, my Asian friend, my white friend'; that's just how we speak around here, especially cos London is *so* diverse. maybe we're just not politically correct enough here
EXACTLY, IVE BEEN SAYING THIS lol !
Wicked Elphaba no I'm not saying that's what she should've said I was laughing at it 😂😂😂 that's why I put quotes around it
I didn't have a problem with what she said either.. I appreciate her saying "black" more than anything else
No offense but this was a stupid conversation
People were offended by what adele said???? Ok E.T im ready to leave this planet I've had enough
Omg really??? Maybe it did mean a lot to her black friends? How is that an insult. People are always looking for negatives in everything.
Ay for real! It annoys me
exactly!
Exactlyyy people are so sensitive now a days
Right, The Grammys is like the Twitter of Award Shows, you have to put your tweeting skills to use and use all 140 characters for your Thank You speech before they start playing the music and rushing you off stage. Seeing as though, Adele has won many Grammys, she knew she would eventually get cut off by the music, just as her friend and Chance The Rapper did!
If your not black and never have been black, then you don't know how some black people feel, done!!!
Stop picking apart Adele's speech, she said nothing wrong. What's wrong with the word "black"?? Nothing. You can't pick and choose when it's ok to say black and when it's not. People jumped on her like she said the n word.
gigglyfitzgirl THANK YOU ! What was she suppose to say then ? People just wait for something negative ti say
gigglyfitzgirl I'm going to ask you, because I noticed that you are very mature, but are non black people not allowed to say black?
Ritza Herrera Thank you, I sometimes worry about how some of my comments come across.
I can't speak for everyone but in my opinion there's nothing wrong with saying black. It's just a way to describe someone. In fact, it actually annoys me when someone of another race says "no offense, but the BLACK guy", when they're just trying to describe who they're talking about. By them overly trying to avoid being offensive it becomes offensive because it makes it seem like there's something wrong with being black.
I prefer to hear black over african american because it's just easier. I don't say "caucasian" so I don't expect everyone to say "african american". To me at the end of the day saying black is no different from saying tall/short/skinny/fat/brown/pale etc. People are so hypersensitive and politically correct these days it's ridiculous.
Another example, mainstream media will say "hearing impaired" instead of "deaf" to avoid being insensitive. Ironically, the deaf community actually PREFERS the terms deaf or hard of hearing and find "hearing impaired" offensive. Because from their view, being deaf is not an impairment and is actually a badge of honor. Deaf pride. Anyway...this message is long and I'm getting off topic. lol sorry about that.
gigglyfitzgirl true. I think for society to progress we shouldn't be ignorant and say things like "i don't see color" we obviously do see color because we are visual beings. What needs to happen is accept & embrace the fact that we are different & thats ok. Not ignore it.
Ritza Herrera 🙌 Exactly.
Adele's speech was poignant and heartfelt - it made me cry. There wasn't a single moment when I felt offended or hurt. It was moving.
As a black woman I liked her comment because before she said black friends she said herself, friends and then black friends,That was actually at the end. I liked her comment but I honestly thought she gave Beyonce to much credit because she herself was very deserving.
This is the perfect comment that also sums up my own feelings. Lemonade is Beyoncé’s greatest work, and even still I think Adele deserved that Grammy. I was sad that Adele felt undeserving and dedicated her award to Beyoncé because Adele created a masterpiece, and I’m so glad she got that recognition. I hope she beats out Beyoncé again this year at the Grammys and that she doesn’t even mention Beyoncé’s album in her speech.
I honestly heard nothing wrong with what she said. I don't even know how it can be construed as negative,
Exactly!!!
I am GLAD Adele specified her BLACK friends because when the album came out, it was clear that it was to show representation for Black women and girls. so many white writers tried to co-opt the album in their thinkpieces trying to make it seem like the INTENTIONAL elements of Blackness Incorporated into the album were not there and that it was JUST an album for everyone when in fact it was not simply that. What kills me is that we raised Cain when white writers tried to erase the Blackness of both Beyonce and Solange's albums but then we get mad when Adele rightfully acknowledges how empowering on a whole other level Lemonade was for Black people specifically??? she did nothing but tell the truth. Lemonade both sonically and visually is a representation of Black and African culture, history, and spirituality. it was a statement of fact and I am glad Adele acknowledged it.
My opinion: When Adele said '...the way you make my friends feel..' and even the way she said "Black" came from a sincere place. ( She at first said "..the way you make my friends feel..'" before adding detail...I think she was referring to the same 'friends' and wanted Beyonce to know that she'd seen the impact of the album. Adele seems to have been moved personally while still realizing that a Black woman's experience is deeper. She also seems to have even been moved by the fact that her friends were moved.)
It was a cringe moment cause we all know we're walking on eggshells because of overly sensitive ppl smh 🙄 ...when she said 'black friends' I already knew the poor girl was gonna be chewed up and that's not right but that's the world we live in 🤷🏻♀️
Nothing offensive about what Adele said. If anything, I'm thankful that she is able to realize what Lemonade meant for so many black women and even some men. People are so dense sometimes. They hear "black friends" and want to find a way to get offended. Adele is so genuine and so kind. That speech was moving and the moment her and Beyonce shared was beautiful.
And no Loni and Adrienne, she didn't miss any verbs or wording. She said it just fine.
Both Beyoncé and Adele deserved that grammy. I like Adele even more after that nice gesture she made.
Angel rose beyonce had a better album. You have to be informed for the critics received of this album. Adele didn't have a better album than Beyonce. I love her though and her gesture was marvellous
1) Adele’s speech was perfect. 2) I would’ve pissed myself laughing in Gary’s presence he’s too funny.
lol, true
The fact that people are upset that she said "the way you make my black friends feel" is BEYOND stupid.
I so agree with Adrienne on this... I could feel Adele's heart in her speech. It was beautiful! However, even as a black woman myself, I didn't flinch when Adele mentioned her "black friends". Like I knew people would talk about it and her but I didn't find an issue with it. It told me that Adele understands the Lemonade album/visual and what it was actually about.
Also, I feel like Tamera was left out of this conversation which is why she said that little part towards the end... but why was she getting emotional?
8SeventeenForever Are non black people not allowed to acknowledge the fact that someone is black even when it is essential to the point?
@jael You're literally copying and pasting the same reply to everyone posts. lmao
jael I just think with everything that's been going on in America with Race and whatnot, people are hyper-sensitive whenever anyone mentions a race that they aren't apart of. It's like we're thinking to ourselves, "Okay what are they about to say now" and we get hella defensive. So it's understandable why people looked at her statement funny. But hopefully if change actually happens and we progress within the next few years it won't be as bad anymore. Idk if that's all true but it's just what I've seen.
Ritza Herrera of course they are! In fact, I get offended whenever someone is afraid to mention that a person is black when I need to understand the situation better. I'm like... why are you so afraid to say "black"? Lmao.. if it makes you feel better say "African-American" 😂
8SeventeenForever as you can see due to the backlash, alot of people don't like when others mention race. Sometimes mentioning race is crucial to understanding the point as u just said! We need to embrace the differences in humanity, not ignore it!
Honestly though if she would have said just "how you make my friends feel" there would have been backlash about "look, Becky wth the good hair thinks lemonade is for her too". I think what Adele said was eloquent, graceful and to the point. There is no reason for backlash at all. For any reason.
Adele didn't miss any adjectives or verbs.. she just told everyone that her black friends found it empowering. Beyonce's Black, she sings about being black and the impacts & all that. Seeing someone from your own minority doing bits is always going to empower you. She didn't say anything wrong.
Loni is always trying to include herself... "we tweet a lot...", "I'm a comic too..." gosh. none knew your name before you started this show so chill
They're thinking too deep into Adele's speech. I saw nothing wrong with her speech, she wasn't trying to offend anyone but express her appreciation for Beyoncé's work. People need to stop being so damn sensitive 😒
I'm not a American so I'm gonna ask. WHY is Beyone treated like she is some kind of goddess? I really don't get it... She is just a human being like all of us. I get that she can sing and empowers black women. But worshipping her is a bit to much guys
Two Kids she's sooooooooooo overrated.
Two Kids and judging by Beyoncés Grammy performance .. it looks like it's getting to her head as well. I hate Beyhive .. they are gonna make me hate Beyoncé 😩😭
Cray May ..I agree..it's not that serious.
Cray May How is it getting to her head?
Two Kids because people don't have lives
I think the reason why Adrienne and all of us flinched when Adele said "my Black friends" is because we're taught not to see or mention people race to be "color blind". And to ignore sometime very important parts of people. When instead we should be taught to embrace our differences. Just a thought.
Adele's speech was wonderful and passionate. Don't forget us that she is live on stage at the Grammys, speaking from the heart. NOTHING malice was meant. Beyoncés tear filled reaction showed that. X
Is saying "black" now politically incorrect?
Dominic Fung that's what I'm asking...
In America it clearly is. In Britain however, its extremely normal.
James Bryson it shouldn't be. Black shouldn't be a scary, insulting thing to be called.
(Disclaimer: not from USA) but I always thought "black" was always the best lexical choice in the context of USA...
Dominic Fung Tbh with you I believe people take the black and AA convo to far...what people fail to realize is that Black is not a nationality its a shade of color...I am a American first...but my roots are from Africa because thats where everything started..but over centuries AA were called all types of names to describe our “shade” of color...
Adele had me crying . Some ppl need to stop this hate .....
Im from the UK and I think its purely been lost in translation somewhere. We don't use African English so black was the most appropriate term and I'm sure she had no idea it would be heard as anything other than heartfelt and empathetic. Growing up in Tottenham, Adele was probably surrounded by an enormous mix of people so for her what sounds a bit blunt and insensitive is just completely normal and everyday. Peace
To be completely honey I'm black and, I have no problem with someone say "oh that's my black friend over there". I don't see what's wrong with it. Its what I am its the color of my skin. Its the way one identity me being called black to me is an honor. Because I know what my black incest went throw to get the people of my skin color in this country to where we are today. So I wear that label with pride and I think every black people should to. that label to me means more then the skin toon it me stron, independent and FIGHTERS! But hey that's just my opoin I guess.
i dont understand why saying my "black" friends is wrong. Black isnt a derrogatory term. Beyonce is black, and she herself has said the album is about empowring black women and black people over all. Or at least it has those undertones. I see nothing wrong in Adele pointing out that her black friends felt that empowerment thanks to Beyonces album. its just praise.
People get way triggered way too easily nowadays. This is how real racism and real sexism gets dismissed as mere "PC culture".
It gets dismisses mostly because people dont care or are racist themselves
Exactly! I'm so glad i'm not the only one noticing the conditioning going on. All they're doing is making every little thing an issue so that people get desensitized to the actual issues. We're getting to a point that if you bring up actual racial issues you're seen as a nuisance. Social engineering at its max. People need to wake up and stop feeding into it, its ridiculous.
NANA SPEAK! a few minutes ago on another video, people were criticizing a dog owner for teasing her dog not to get into the pool, and she also had a really nice house. the comments are/were ridiculous, and I *"said ever since social media got popular, and mainstream, people are becoming/getting more of a mental mess"*.
this kind of reminds me of a movie called *"Oblivion"* with Tom Cruise where humanity, and natural resources are being taken over, and killed by an evil technology.
Adele's speech was beautiful and the icing on the cake.
We are from the UK, we say black. Its just an American thing to have a problem, I think.
Tamera is looking stunning!!!!
Simply Massa ikr! I was like yassss slay mama
If you watch all of her shows. she's trying to be just like Adrienne. watch every move Adrienne makes she does it right after. it's so annoying! smh
Moranda Mondragon Are you talking about Jeannie?Because I've noticed those two vining off of each other.Thats really why I came here to comment but got caught up in this Adele nothingness. Lol
No, I'm talking about Tamera. I feel like she looks up to Adrienne and she always re creates her hair, expressions. almost like she isn't being herself.
Moranda Mondragon Oh,Ok.I have to start paying attention to that.I notice Jeannie and Adrienne play off of what each other say a lot.They get on my nerves with that "We don't want to leave anybody out speech".I can take Adrienne but for real they can get rid of Jeannie.
People need to realise that Beyonce is suddenly jumping on issues that affect black just to stay relevant and make more money off of the brainwashed people that worship her like she is God. She gets away with masking her demonic performances with 'black power' and 'African culture' because that is what is really popular now. I am a black man and will not be fooled by what she is doing. She's got everyone trapped in a trance of darkness. I am not saying that she is not talented but what I am saying is that she was not nailed to a cross for me, I will NEVER bow down to her!
Completely agree! The scriptures are being fulfilled right before our eyes. We are living in the days of serious DECEPTION!
James Bryson Tell 'em again!
James Bryson Beyoncé has been supporting black matters for years. When she doesn't brag about it, it means she never did anything. When she does speak about it suddenly it's for attention and to stay relevant. She'll never do anything that will satisfy you people
Yeah I was so in love with Lemonade but that thought always came up because she has a history of jumping on trends or issues that were popular at the time even though it contradicts her previous music or ideas.
Beyonces always been supportive of black issues...
The way Adele spoke made me think she has some really lovely friends that she is on a level with. That by mentioning her black friends it was already a massive emphasis of love, respect, and admiration for Beyoncé's record. For those of us who were born and raised in London we have a multitude of cultures and ethnicities we're comfortable with being surrounded by and loads of friends from those cultures. So when I heard Adele's speech all I heard was a Londoner who has an awesome set of friends and she had her chance to recognise someone else's greatness and share that moment. Loved that.
OMG I’m 😭 laughing at Gary “as a black man”
People kill me with "we knew her heart". You don't know nothing about these celebrities and the facades they create
James Bryson AMEN!! As if they know Adele or Beyoncé or whoever!
Right. Like how do you know her heart if you've never even had a conversation with her?
they don't say that when we comment on youtube
We dont lol we just assume i guess
Lmaoo
people are too damn sensitive! be honest! people are bitter because beyonce didn't win, but no need to come for Gary and Adele's throats!
Bitter?lol the beyhive not getting the award here the whole Gary thing was small and a joke
I'm probably th only person who couldn't care less about Beyoncé.
Courtney Smith you're not alone. Beyonce sucks.
sucks lollipops? yes, she does suck lollipops. she did it in the music video for blow
I’m with you. I think Beyoncé is talented no doubt! But I probably have one song of hers in my iTunes list lol and I could care less to see or watch her
I'm not mad Beyonce didn't WIN who cares !!!!! yes I said it who's with me !!!
One like...
People are just too damn sensitive these days 🙄🙄
Are you ladies serious? we make jokes about white people a lot and most of them don't take offence to it like us black people, we are so quick to judge when we hear the word "black" we go crazy..damn!
Honestly a joke is a joke you cant make them all the time and then can't recieve them back
darkskin princess Because its been passed down from generation to generation being black is bad, evil, or ugly. Its the system we live in.
Mims L I am black and proud and beautiful too, but I'm over 30 yrs old. I raised in predominantly white community. Because of the Willie Lynch theory we are being raised and taught to hate our own race. So we don't rise above the rest and take over. Sorry to tell you this honey, but the only love and acceptance you need is your own. Don't look for others to feel the same way about you the system isn't created that way. The sooner you understand that the better. #GoodLuck 😎👊
Mims L AA's?
Mims L Oh girl 😂I'm not update with this text savy context. It's been real keep your head up honey. 👋
I salute Adele. The people who are knit picky about her speech can go on somewhere else. Everyone knew exactly what she meant and it was a positive thing she said. As a Black woman, I was thankful that she recognized the significance and impact that Beyonce has had on the young and the old Black women around the world. It's Black history month, let those who recognize it do so without the backlash.
Adele said NOTHING wrong. She's probably the only artist who would be honest and say "I can't accept this award because I believe this person did a phenomenal job"...She gave credit where it was due, and that's that. Beyonce definitely should have won Album of the year, and this is coming from an avid Adele fan.
I think there is nothing wrong with her adoring and showing love for Beyonce and dedicating her award to her ! No she isn't a god but she is empowering to her and other women ! People need to realize it's ok to acknowledge other artists or people that are competitors and give them props and say " you know I appreciate this but I feel that... should've deserved this just as much and I love them" there's no need for backlash ! She was being positive !
Myronn Coleman thank you!
All this really is , is the misunderstanding of how British and American people communicate, I don't see anything wrong with what was said.
I love Adele & I believe she said black friends because she knows who the artist (Beyoncé) had in mine with Lemonade. I love that Adele wasn't afraid to say it like it is.
0:50 "a year ago I got traded for stacy dash so i thought this was my first chance to speak up as a black man"
Loni was deadass laughing at Gary for getting called out by the Black audience lmaoooo.
I honestly think he was joking because black people say hes invited to the cookout all the time and tell certain white celebs they are
I don't get the confusion of what Adele said. I think she worded it perfectly. Her mentioning how it made her black friends feel was imo the most important part of her speech. She knew that Lemonade was an album for the black women out there to love and embrace their black girl magic and she appreciates the positive effect it had on them. Adele's album moved a lot of people but not as much as Lemonade moved the hearts of all the black women/men out there and that's what she was saying. I love Adele
Adele wording was PERFECT
"Who got the juice?" Adrienne is sooo New York
They got this wrong... No one was coming for Adele that was the best part of her speech. One of the central themes of the album was appreciating black women...
Twitter was
Nah Twitter was here for it what you on?
miles nah
Beyoncé made Lemonade for black women, everyone loved it but Bey was telling her story and being a black woman is a major part of her experience. Adele is right people are too damn sensitive
Congratulations Adele!!! Best album of the Year!!! Adele spoke from the heart and that's all that matters!!! Love from Trinidad!!!
Adele didn't say anything wrong with the whole "the way you make my black friends feel" portion of her speech. That was so important. To me she worded it wrong when she said "you help them to feel good about themselves" (or something along those lines is what she said) it just sounded weird, like we don't naturally have confidence,etc. that was the part that was like yikes. But I love her, Bc you can tell it wasn't meant that way at all.
Solange album was way more empowering then Lemonade. Sorry not sorry!
Clodia Frazil. You mean the Visual right? not the musical album. The album only spoke about marital problems (save Freedom and Formation). All the good stuff from Lemonade came from the Visual. ASATT was better musically.
Beyonce can sind and dance, all round entertainer. Granted Adele can sing, however there are dime a dozen black girls out there who can match her or surpass (if given the opportunity and the right song). Right now the music industry is structured to pander to "Blue Eyed Soul"...Adele, Sam Smith etc. With the exception of Beyonce and Rhianna, black female singers barely get a chance to sing ballards. Beyonce aside, Adele has nothing on vocalists like LaLa Harthaway;Jasmine Sullivan. And what is this thing of Adele fluffing up performances and asking for a do-over in the middle of a live performance, it ain't cute. Beyonce would never do that! Neva! Beyonce comes in and executes the job beautifully, sings, dances and don't be messing up on Yonce's time cause she doesn't like sloppy vocals and weak dancing...Adele? She just stands there. Beyonce deserved the Grammys.
Jovan Bercey lies
As a Beyoncé stan for 20 years, even I realize she can't win every damn award, y'all! Sheesh! And it's not like she lost to somebody like Taylor Swift this time. She lost to Adele, who's amazing in her own right, so I can't be mad at that.
I said thevsame damn thing lol it wasnt taylor it was adele a great vocalist
Msfeminista I think people are just upset that when it comes to the Grammys, Beyoncé has never won album of the year in her 14 year history as a solo artist. While Adele and Taylor Swift has won it twice. Just doesn't seem fair because she put a lot into this last album and to not win is sketchy. (Not saying Adele didn't put anything into her album, but let's be honest Lemonade was empowering for a whole group of women and people. So why shouldn't it be recognized this year?)
Msfeminista 👏👏👏👏👏💯💯💯💯
Msfeminista I agree get over it she got it going on also. So what she won....
people are mad that she hasn't won album of the year when she has 18 Grammy's? In all honesty, if she deserved to get AOTY it would be with Lemonade. It was just such a shame that Adele's 25 was also a contender. Other than that, it's hard to feel sorry for an artist that has been so globally acclaimed.
This made me love Adele more as a mother I felt her every word ❤
I think Americans misconstrue anything related to race. Adele is British where black and white people aren’t segregated like they are in the US. She wouldn’t have thought twice about saying what she said because she has a different sensibility to Americans. Adele is from a highly populated black part of London and she’s down with the culture, always has been. That’s it.
i was not offended by adeles speech. the album was made for black women. but it was part white guilt lol cos lets be real lemonade > 25
HoneyBee I like 25 more than Lemonade so I disagree
Tamera's last comment was not needed.... she just repeated everything Adrienne already said and even made it about her... then asked if they know what she means......yes Tamera..... Adrienne and Loni literally repeated that throughout the segment....
Nasia Rená omg I thought I was the only person who thought this! It just seemed so self centered because she didn't add anything else to the convo!
8SeventeenForever omg ikr? She always does that as a way to "conclude" the convo. Sometimes she comes across to me as being so ditzy... Especially when she repeats certain things in almost every discussion
Nasia Rená I totally agree....she sat there with nothing to contribute then chimes in talking about herself 🙄 Really?
Jaboo 77 ikr? I liked her first question, asking what do they think would have been a more appropriate thing for Adele to say, but coming in at the end like that, making it about her, repeating the exact thing A said and to top it off asking them if they know what she means.... Really?? -_-
It was so awkward....
Baby that speech gave me chills
There was nothing wrong with Adele saying "black friends" - that is who the Lemonade album catered to. If she had said "my friends", it's likely that most people would've assumed the friends in question were white and said " what do her friends know about the black struggle?!?" A white woman spoke out and spoke about the impact that the album had on her and her BLACK friends - letting Beyoncé know on a public platform that her album did exactly what she intended for it to do - empower black people.
I wanted Beyonce to win Album of the Year but I am okay with Adele winning. Beyonce's Lemonade album was about empowering black women and she also talked about police brutality. I thought Lemonade had the most impact in the year of 2016.
Did Tamera say "her true fans?" Lmao. Girl, You haven't had true fans since Twicthes
Abigial Rosser 😂😂😂👏🏾
Abigial Rosser speak for yourself. lol that's the only thing you got from this 7 minute clip?
Abigial Rosser speak for yourself. lol that's the only thing you got from this 7 minute clip?
Abigial Rosser but do you have any true fans though.....didn't think so
TRIED IT!!!!!!!😂😂😭😭🐸☕️
I had no problem with what she said...smh and Gary is hilarious 😂😂
Gary loves black women he is definitely invited to the cookout and Adele is too 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Adele is such a humble and nice woman, but Bey really deserved that award. I appreciate her kindness and even SHE knew Bey deserved that award. However I think breaking the grammy in half for Bey was stupid. It doesn't change the fact that she didnt win. If I were B id toss it in the trash lmfao
Why do black people have to award white people just for being decent and not racist? Black people get so excited for every little thing a white person does relating to our culture but quick to tear down our own..I've always hated that cookout/black card mess.I find it embarrassing and weak we are the only race that do this
Jimmy I never thought of it that way...🤔. No one else invites people to their race...
Many do not understand because adele grew up in Tottenham, she grew up around black people. So she knew us very well.
No one should have been upset about Adeles speech. It was so obvious she was being genuine and she was truly showing her love and support of Bey's work! She is a diehard Beyoncé fan and even understood WHY Lemonade was important to Bey and even her black friends. She was basically saying she GETS it and she APPRECIATES it! How was that missed? People can be so dumb. I teared up with Adele and Bey hearing that speech. I'm sure the whole room did.
I am European white, and I really dont understand what's the big deal or problem for Adele's speech, you could tell she was very sincere, and why other people have to be afraid of expressing some, in this case, positive thoughts mentioning black people.. I like Beyonce, but if people's argument that Adele shouldn't have won because everybody knows just Hello song from that album, then about Beyonce's this album I remember just it's name "Lemonade", that's all..
Tamera tho 🔥🔥🔥
No Loni, if Adele DIDN'T say "Black Friends" and just said "My friends," The same black people hating NOW would've said "Oh no, Whitey, this album was not FOR YOU. This was for BLACK WOMEN." But then she acknowledged how it moved black people and she is still SHAT on. I think it was harmless.
galemoy you're absolutely right. Also what is wrong with acknowledging race if it applies?
Exactly! Sure, if something has a historical context that is offensive, I get it, but nowadays - I've noticed this between white and black people especially - people get offended by everything. If she didn't mention race, people would call her out because Lemonade was not "for her kind." But now that she HAS, she's called out for segregating her friends. If 2 of you're friends are black, THEN YOU HAVE TWO BLACK FRIENDS, lol. That's is a fact...
I'm so tired of people getting butt hurt about someone bringing up race. People are so confused, you want us to bring up race one minute, but then when people do you want to say something. There was no other way to say it. Adele said it the way she needed to. She understood who the album was made for, and for that I respect her. Being black myself, I congratulate her for standing up and saying what she said. For being the person to say what need to be said when probably no one else would have had a set to say it.
Adele didn't say it in any wrong way, she has black friends and thats a fact. Her and her black friends enjoyed lemonade end of story. I feel like people are reaching. And honestly Beyonce only winning in the urban category is a joke.
Dammit I'm too early. I'll come back when the savage people say something.
Honestly I don't see anything wrong with how she said it, in fact I'm glad she added her "black friends", because frankly the album wasn't just for black women but a lot of black women felt more of a connection with this album than any of her other albums. Yes, I do believe that Beyonce deserved the award because frankly, if you haven't noticed people, the whole award show Adel was just nominated for her one song Hello. While Beyoncé on the other hand was nominated for more than 2 of her songs on Lemonade. They awarded Adel for the one song, while Beyoncé was nominated for more than one song... Doesn't that mean she had the better album?
I love Adele so much. I am a black woman in case you need to know. I didn’t find anything wrong with what she said. She is definitely not prejudice at all. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I honestly thought A Seat At The Table was an album for black women. Well, me especially. I couldn't relate to Beyonces album that much.
+Clodia Frazil That's a good point. They were powerful visuals of us in the HBO program for her album
Omg seriously? Why do we have to be so politically correct...one word? How ridiculous. Adele is one of the most down to earth people in the industry! She meant what she meant, the album and Beyonces career in general inspires her friends, and then reiterated to obviously mean especially her Black friends what the hell is wrong with that? I don't think Americans understand that Adele is from Tottenham - a multi-cultural area. The reason she said Black friends is because Beyonce made an album about Black power and continues to protest for Black empowerment - jheez!
Remember she's from the U.K. and they do speak differently than us.
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I didn't take offence to what Adele said. If her friends are black then they're just black, there's no need for her to put it in any other words (It wasn't offensive at all). It's just like if a black says my asian friends or my white friends (nobody gets defensive when blacks or any other race use those terms/words). Also what Gary tweeted was kind of funny. People get too too sensitive when it comes to race. That's his style of comedy and I don't think he meant anything by it. One person on the panel was going overboard and being too defensive.
Adele and Gary both said nothing wrong. Anyone who is offended should check their sensitivity levels....
Lonnie's comment suggesting that Adele should not have referred to the race of her friends altogether, in addition to the unnecessary scrutiny that Adele received is one of the many reasons why people of privilege shy away from voicing their opinions. Let the woman be real! Let unfiltered opinions remain valued and important! Beyoncé did not hold back from letting the world know her views on not just "Police Brutality," but she blatantly highlighted how Police Brutality effects the lives of black people. This was album was for black female empowerment. Adele didn't do anything wrong. She kept it real.
She worded it perfectly. She was listing who it impacted in her life. She did say it impacted her friends and she was making a point that it empowered her friends who are black. It's a descriptive word and certainly not meant as an insult.
The Beyonce haters are just as bad as the Beyonce worshipers. She didn't force Adele to say or do anything. She seemed gracious for Adele's acknowledgement of her album so what exactly did she do wrong to receive all this hate. Lemonade was a solid album which told a great story and was a good mixture of genres that in my opinion stretched her artistry which is why most people including Adele thought she was gonna win.
You right her haters got to make it known they hate her every second
Tigerkem omg thank you! They must not realize that they mention her as much as the stans do!
This is so childish, I CAN'T EVEN be upset lmaooo.
Of course she was going to emphasis her black friends because empowering black people was a big theme of the album! It showed that Adele actually understands the racial tension issues today and exactly what Lemonade was exploring. If the problem was her using the word "black" then plssss, "african american" isn't a term here in the UK, we just say BLACK. Same as caucasian isn't a thing here either, it's just WHITE.
That shot at Stacy Dash was too fucking real. 😂😂😭😭☕️🐸