It is a lot better with this !!! Man you're an awesome youtubeur you do some awesome content and you have so awesome ideas for the tracks so continue like this and I will continue following u ! Peace ! (Ho and turn 1 at paul ricard should be a 20° left corner so it's a heavy breaking zone, but it's just my thoughts gg Tommo !)
@Rugby Crave The F1 world championship started in 1950/51 but several countries (France, Germany, Italy, Monaco, Britain and possibly a few others) had held one -off Grands Prix pre-War.
Honestly, just deleting the chicane from the back straight at Paul Ricard would help, a lot. Teams would need to run less downforce for the whole lap too.
Either get rid of it which is possible, as the track is LITERALLY built for that area like abu Dhabi turn 4-5, or make it a very hard braking, monza turn 1 type.
The ramp for the Helix pedestrian bridge might also be in the way though. Alternatively as it's a street circuit perhaps we could rotate between different layouts/routes for each year of the Singapore GP, to make it more interesting
Just seen it on drive to survive and my tv doesn't cope well with all the stripes in the long panning shots. Thats why news readers don't wear stripey suits.
@@angeleko4241 Macau (political considerations aside) is bloody good as well, but not really a fair comparison, as it's nowhere near capable of hosting F1 races.
thats my home race, and ive been at the circuit, and i honestly think the part where the chicane area cant be removed cos the government wont remove the youth olympic park, and that area around there is a public road
That's what really pisses me off. There are so many different layouts to Yas Marina, the race is already a borefest why not experiment with said different layouts?
Just make it a combination F1 race and triathlon. Start the swimming by having to escape your sinking car. It’s the last race of the season, you won’t need it after that anyway.
I born in Valencia, I live in Valencia, and I love F1 more than my life. I still thinking that The Valencia Street Circuit was better than Barcelona Catalunya. I know that they often are two boring races, but man, remember 2012, what an amazing race we hosted.
You kind of got your wish with Singapore with the bottom parts of the circuit turned into a straight, but it goes slightly opposite from what you considered initially.
Paul ricard is a circuit you hate, or love, (or a bit of the two) but having 167 tracks... They managed to use the worst? That's really an achievement, like you said at the start of the vid
I love Singapore. It's a great event to go attend. Just get rid of that stadium bit, make that a straight away and use the stadium for concerts, mega screens, interviews, etc.
@@stepladder3257 it's the organisers with the money not the country. It's a similar scenario in UAE theres a much better track in Dubai but the organisers want their track to be on the calendar
@@stepladder3257 Money has everything to do with it. Moscow Raceway is two hours away from Moscow, in the middle of nowhere. Russia is trying to turn Sochi into the South of France on the Black Sea, with skiing, glamorous shops, massive mansions, and a Grand Prix
Paul Ricard, yes. Sochi sucked until the rain came, Abu Dabi sucked until the safety car came, Spain sucked period, Monaco can't have a good race with F1 cars no matter how hard you try, Singapore and shanghai weren't even there
Wow, a few years later and we have: - Sochi and France removed from the kalender - Monaco and China the same as they work - Spain, Abu Dhabi and Singapore did nearly what you said. Amazing 🔥
- The returns of the French Grand Prix is looking impossible for me, even more impossible than the German Grand Prix. - Still waiting for the Monaco Grand Prix with track changed, while, for me, the Chinese Grand Prix not need change. - Glad to see the Spanish*, Abu Dhabi, and Singapore Grands Prix to became much more better. * = Only for moved to Madrid in 2026 due to politics reason in between Spanish and Catalan government.
France and russia produced exciting races this season thankfully. Let's see if UAE joins the party too with the new layout and moreover it may be the title-deciding race of this season.
3:45 I would remove the chicane in the middle of the straight and add the hard braking zone at the end of the straight. I like the decreasing radius corner that you killed.
In Monaco, extending the back straight through the tunnel by a little bit would not change the reasons why almost no passing occurs on the highest speed section of the track - that the drivers use up all the road width through the tunnel, and then you are immediately into a downhill breaking section the moment you are done navigating that curving tunnel section. If they could move the chicane farther away so that there is some space between exiting the bending tunnel and braking for the chicane, then MAYBE that might help a tiny bit? Or if you want to see the F1 drivers around the circuit and actually passing, maybe have a karting exhibition event for the F1 drivers to compete in on the same weekend for charity or something? 🤔
For Barcelona, you also need to change Turn 1. Its suppose to be a heavy braking zone à la Monza, but its still a fast corner. Or you can change turn 3 to make it a very sharp hairpin so that the dirty air problem associated with turn 3 isnt as egregious.
Honestly, most of these redesigns aren't great. Starting with France, the issue there is really dirty air before the Mistral Straight. That problem should be sorted with the 2022 cars though, as the dirty air will be greatly reduced. Beausset has been ruined as well, being a brilliant fast corner where cars can go side-by-side if they get out of signes together. The final sector definitely has potential, but that chicane looks very awkward, and would just let gaps increase onto the pit straight. Sochi would not really work for the T7-T9 section, as the dirty air through 7 will kill any passing opportunity into 8. Turn 8 is also a nice corner, and the flow there is ruined. Bypassing the 15-16 chicane is a big improvement, and the last two corners are improved, although the space taken up might mean that it is impossible. The pit entry could be improved with this last corner, with potentially an 80kph speed limit, which decreases the pit delta. Abu Dhabi's chicane before the hairpin has to exist, for safety. If the drivers did just skip it, the FIA would DQ them, or just not sanction the event. The new section at the harbour could work, but the issue there would be runoff, as the facilities there would restrict what could be done. Spain's big issue is dirty air, so bypassing the chicane is a big no. There is a reason that F1 stopped using the chicane. The dirty air through the final corner would be a lot worse without the chicane, so passing would be a lot harder, as the following car can't carry enough speed to be close down the straight. The tighter new turn in S2 would give a passing place, but looks too tight to race well. Monaco's change is one that I do like, and it could work well. Moving nouvelle back could help as well, if a new area is built just like the existing chicane. Singapore's arena section (T16-19) will be torn down in a year or two iirc, so there could be a straight between the current T16 and 19. The final corner would require a lot of building work, especially as it requires a lot more runoff than the current corner. China's redesign could work very well, but the racing there can be very good already, so it doesn't really need to change.
Problem with altering Yas Marina is all the buildings. Can't change many parts of it because it's routing around a building. For removing that chicane into the hairpin, that works except now you have a big braking zone with no run-off (a big building & grandstand is right there). You can however also move that hairpin up 20 meters (closer to where the chicane currently is) with a curved exit onto the long straight. YM also has a bunch of off-camber turns, if the track was re-profiled so that these turns banked in instead of banking out, following would be a lot easier.
For those tracks that already have the changes in the form of slip roads, I wonder if an e-sports simulation can be held to see if these changes make things more interesting!
It seems to me like the only way they could "Fix" Monaco is by making the event a staggered start time trial. If nobody can overtake, eliminate position as the winning factor. If an overtake happens, all it does is gain time.
They could make the final corner at Shanghai a little rounder because it's a hard-to-judge corner and they could go faster which gives a better change of overtaking into turn 1.
2:16 My suggestion it is that Formula One should race at the streets of Paris and MotoGP making its debut at Circuit de Paul Ricard for the French Grand Prix
I remember hearing that the reason they had to add that horrible chicane in Abu Dhabi is that they didn't have enough runoff compared to the amount of speed they would carry into that corner or something.
@@eggselent9814 What do you want to expect on a track that looks more like a maze than a "race" track. No wonder why ppl describe it as; "just a bigger version of a Formula E track."
Hi tommo im a Singaporean here...just wanna add that the grandstand at turn 18-21 (part that u want it to be removed to make long straight to the last corner) is going to be demolished soon to construct a venue called NS Square which will be done at around 2025 so the circuit layout is up in the air for the future. As for that youth olympic park theres a highway and a big bridge that starts from the road beside it so it cant just be demolished and make the track go through there. Cheers :)
Monaco is the only track that would work in reverse. People say you can't run in reverse because there is no run off, but in Monaco there is no run off either way
Good video idea: Tommo’s perfect 23 race calendar. So you replace the boring tracks to what you think should be on the calendar (mugello,kyalami etc) to make up the perfect track season.
My understanding about that chicane early on in Yas Marina is that it exists for spectator safety. Without that chicane the speeds are too high with no runoff between the corner and the grandstands. Ditching it would absolutely improve the circuit though.
@@CIinbox How would you fix it? Imo, the track flow is brilliant. The only change I would make is to go straight on at the small right kink before Rivazza and then make Rivazza a tight hairpin and then have it open up like Parabolica (@Monza). However, this would reduce the chance of an overtake at Variante Bassa, although we could create a "new" Variante Bassa by switching the side of the pit boxes and reversing the direction of the chicane, also removing the small right kink that proceeds Variante Bassa. I thought of placing it after the start line, but there is a restaurant there and Italian's love their food, so I wouldn't want to remove it. Saying that though, I would absolutely YEET the ice skating arena at Sochi, cos, who really actually cares about ice skating.
Yes it is exciting. But at the hint of an overtaking move some drivers just take the escape route or we have racing incidents (Stroll-Norris). Its really difficult to go side by side at that speed and angle. Maybe widening the corner like turn one in Portugal?
Damn, 90% of your proposals would make the tracks even worse! Narrow corners doesn't guarantee suitable overtaking spots. Sometimes you also need a flow in a specific section of the tracks to make it more drivable.
Tommo, can't _believe_ you didn't fix Sochi turn one two complex You didn't remove the chicane in the Paul Richard straight You added MORE chicanes to Sochi and Paul Richard. You didn't fix turn one two in Barcelona
Damit, you put two of my favourites. Singapore and Sochi. I would like to see the Singapore sling back tho and the removal of that off camber chicane at Sochi, but they’re very satisfying tracks to drive.(at least on the f1 game) Also the original intention was to not have that chicane at Yas Marina but the stand behind it meant that they couldn’t get the runoff needed.
@@TommoMcCluskey i hate to watch Sochi gp, but on an F1 game it is really good to drive on. On the other hand, I absolutly hate do drive in China and (of course) Spain and 3rd sector in France
I think at Singapore turns 8 and 14 the junction should be opened up so they have to cross over each others paths. Williams would then have an actual chance of "knocking" Lewis off the podium. Also, random red lights and crossing trains.
I will be fair i like most of the tracks. Monaco I agree with you Tommo, no change is better, but well... (If i could I would change Monaco with Australia). But about Singapore I have another change that might be even better: so instead of cutting turns 18 through 21 and passing through the park, you could instead cut turns 16 through 19, make a chicane or something else at turns 20 and 21 and maybe maintain the actual last corners.
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It is a lot better with this !!! Man you're an awesome youtubeur you do some awesome content and you have so awesome ideas for the tracks so continue like this and I will continue following u ! Peace ! (Ho and turn 1 at paul ricard should be a 20° left corner so it's a heavy breaking zone, but it's just my thoughts gg Tommo !)
Watch how his channel blows up now
Why don't you make a video improving GOOD tracks?
I've seen this idea a couple times why don't you do a dream calendar of past and present F1 tracks?
Tommo: I can't just widen Monaco
Tommo: You can remove the river in Singapore
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@@TommoMcCluskey um about youth park , have you realized that a bridge starts there , and if you try to go under you have to build over the river
Maybe to mark the Monaco GP's 100th anniversary they could change the circuit layout/routing in 2029 to use different roads in the city-state
@Arran McCaffery But Monaco's GP started in 1929
@Rugby Crave The F1 world championship started in 1950/51 but several countries (France, Germany, Italy, Monaco, Britain and possibly a few others) had held one -off Grands Prix pre-War.
Honestly, just deleting the chicane from the back straight at Paul Ricard would help, a lot.
Teams would need to run less downforce for the whole lap too.
Either get rid of it which is possible, as the track is LITERALLY built for that area like abu Dhabi turn 4-5, or make it a very hard braking, monza turn 1 type.
it's not allowed because the straight would be to long for the FIA approval
Fun fact:your comment has 69 likes when I am commenting
@@warfacts9236 then make it a hard braking and a sharp corner. Not a small turn that don't invite overtakes
@@ventiman2624 and it shot up by 26 in four minutes?
with the your final corners in Singapore, get rid of the barrier at the end so if you brake too late, its into the river for you.
Or add a ramp so that you have the chance to jump across the river when it's to late
@@patrikjansen7831 maybe do a trick like in Mario Kart and get the extra boost
Good idea
Adds a whole new meaning to....”THE SINGAPORE SLING”! 🏎⤴️😂😝
@@patrikjansen7831 LMAOOOO
Youth Olympic Park < Racing
Great vid man, I think you should have someone make those tracks as a mod for F1 2020 so we could try them haha:)
Cheers bro!
Ooohhh hellooo
Nice! Sexy verification badge looks so nice when it's next to your name.
The ramp for the Helix pedestrian bridge might also be in the way though. Alternatively as it's a street circuit perhaps we could rotate between different layouts/routes for each year of the Singapore GP, to make it more interesting
I'd rather watch a street race in the middle of Moscow or St Petersburg
4:25
Tommo: you can’t just build through the middle of the stadium
Mexico: how ‘bout i do anyway?
underrated comment
haha
Wait what?
Lol
Love the bill wurtz reference
This tommo guy seems to have replaced tommo f1, who's digging him?
Imposter
@@TommoMcCluskey impostor
@@TommoMcCluskeyis sus
@@TommoMcCluskey Dis do be sus
Tommo: "I'm adding heavy breaking zones."
Daniel Ricciardo: *exists*
ricciardo wdc 2021
Ahhh yes the famous late braker
@@bullettime8760 he should not be
@@marioskapetanakis why? He’s a good driver, very positive, and is funny
@@dbabu51 that's good but he should stop late braking
5:44 😂 The change was made for 2021 so they listened to Tommo. 👍And there was a heartbraking overtake by Max to take the title.
exactly my thought
They also changed removed the spain chicane
In Singapore they actually added that straight that crosses through the Youth Olympic Park 💀
@@The_Eray No the straight was the street up of the Youth Olympic Park
Paul Ricard’s red and blue strips give headaches when watching races.
On god
Good thing to be coulorblind for once
Just seen it on drive to survive and my tv doesn't cope well with all the stripes in the long panning shots. Thats why news readers don't wear stripey suits.
@Did A it's rather a parking lot than a track.
I bet you like Daytona 🤣 and any grey truck on a cloudy day
Tommo: "I'm adding heavy breaking zones."
Daniel Ricciardo: hey mate
new name looks *clean* man
ah damemer is here
memer watches a finish man cook his wife
Tommo F1 was better. Knew what you were getting before you even clicked the name
The saddest part about Abu Dhabi is that even Tilke doesn't like it, he was forced to make the sector 3 different to his original idea
Gotta have the suspiciously shaped hotel tho to keep the rich bois happy I guess...
Any images of his original design?
Bread
I didnt even watch the race in Abu Dhabi this year and i feel i didnt miss much.
@@loglemz2070 The only thing you missed was the heartbreaking retire from checo
Bahrain is a great track
Agreed
I absolutely agree
Agree always good racing
100%
Agreed
Agreed
Agreed
This reply sections are so unoriginal
Looks like Abu Dhabi listened to you after all.
10:54 they did something similar for 2023! LETS GOOOO TOMMO IS BEING LISTENED TO!
that straight is temporary, when work is done in that section they'll revert to old layout
@@maximiliannguyen1162 That sucks ass
That Singapore last cornerner change hurts. That's my favourite corner on the f1 calendar.
Just the fact that Marina Bay is up here in the first place hurts. I think it's the best street circuit in the world by a mile...
@@rjfaber1991 yeah Macau is just factually better
Didn't know that was a thing, just a boring finish to me. 😅
@@angeleko4241 Macau (political considerations aside) is bloody good as well, but not really a fair comparison, as it's nowhere near capable of hosting F1 races.
thats my home race, and ive been at the circuit, and i honestly think the part where the chicane area cant be removed cos the government wont remove the youth olympic park, and that area around there is a public road
Adding the roundabout to Monaco would also look amazing on screen. The interior of the [added] roundabout is a beautiful garden.
Like Long Beach's roundabout!
Video idea: try to predict where about the car performance of each team will be in 5/10 seasons time? Might be interesting
Williams GOAT
Yes great idea. Also means predicting new teams/team names!
Here's how to fix Sochi: Leave it, and move the Russian GP to Igora instead. Seriously, that looks like one hell of a track...
Wow they listened to you lol
😳
Hehehhe
Pog u have magic glass ball
Aaaaand, wish granted!
the actually listened about one of your ideas at Singapore the removed the 4 corners and made it strait 🤣
Well atleast you tried unlike FIA ,cough *yas Marina* cough
😅
That's what really pisses me off. There are so many different layouts to Yas Marina, the race is already a borefest why not experiment with said different layouts?
I wouldn’t cough there’s a virus going round
@@AutosportDesign well most of those are god awful and the best choice is impossible rules wise due to ferrari world.
Instead of YAS QUEEN
It's YAS marina
Assetto Corsa Modders! Do your thing!
Please no
Garry's Mod is the best I can do since I'm out of hard drive space.
I'd love to see some custom/altered tracks improve F1 overtaking opportunities, so I'm all for this
Hold on let me get in contact with All Along The Race Track. This guy has some assetto corsa mods, but his database is absolutely nuts.
“Massive in the dirty air F1 for obviously is a problem current spec”
-Tommo 2021
5:49 That was some top class foreshadowing Tommo xD
Great video, I think the way to improve Abu Dhabi is instead of the current sector 3 go slight right, jump the river and then test the drivers landing
Are you Bernie in disguise? 😉
Just make it a combination F1 race and triathlon. Start the swimming by having to escape your sinking car. It’s the last race of the season, you won’t need it after that anyway.
@@TommoMcCluskey sshhh it’s a secret
@@brookegarbarini now that. That’s is an idea I can get behind.
Really like the graphics in this video, it makes it so satisfying to watch and easy to follow. Keep the videos up Tommo!
I think he's a graphics designer or something
I born in Valencia, I live in Valencia, and I love F1 more than my life. I still thinking that The Valencia Street Circuit was better than Barcelona Catalunya. I know that they often are two boring races, but man, remember 2012, what an amazing race we hosted.
Would love to see it every now and then to be fair!
@@TommoMcCluskey I wouldn’t like. But not because it was boring. It was just very expensive for all of us
Alonso alone Made it exciting tbf
To be fair, the race at Barcelona in 2012 was also really good.
@@wheresaldocanoe Yeah... Maldonado 👌
Everyone: * complains about circuit de Paul Richard *
French GP 2021: Shut up and watch my strategy battle
You kind of got your wish with Singapore with the bottom parts of the circuit turned into a straight, but it goes slightly opposite from what you considered initially.
had a graphics lesson so tommo is the perfect thing to watch
This is your homework
That’s it bro
6:04 you can't do that straight cause it's a heavy breaking zone with the stands behind, there isn't any off track and that could be dangerous
thats the point
Same for China. There would be no place for the runoff
Well they did it so… lol
That didn't age well did it
@@kunai8080 totally xddd
TOMMO I SENT YOU THIS idea on ig i feel honoured
Paul ricard is a circuit you hate, or love, (or a bit of the two) but having 167 tracks... They managed to use the worst? That's really an achievement, like you said at the start of the vid
Am i really the only one who is hyped for singapore every year? Its my second favourite track.....
I'm quite hyped for Singapore after driving it in F1 2020.
Same I really like the idea of a night themed track it really looks amazing. Good design but races are not that good.
singapore is one of the most fun tracks to drive on the f1 games
i'd say monaco when you nail the lap tops all, especially at night
I love Singapore. It's a great event to go attend. Just get rid of that stadium bit, make that a straight away and use the stadium for concerts, mega screens, interviews, etc.
I love Singapure from F12018 and also have bad memories.
Singapore: is one of the smallest countries in the world
Tommo: They can just build it somewhere else, it’s fine 😂
Can you do a vid on your dream f1 calander including old tracks that don’t exist anymore
That would be cool
That would be cool (2)
That would be cool pt 3
That would be cool: The Revenge :V
That would be cool: The last battle
I’m quite amazed you didn’t think to change turn 2 at Sochi I really hate that corner it just encourages every driver to go wide and cut it
The reason I like Monaco is because it has hills and it's extremely narrow and sketchy. I'm not even upset with how it is right now lol.
1:53 ah yes 5,511 thousand people. Congrats Tommo, 5 and a half million people voted in your poll!
FIA: *is aware that it is difficult for a car to follow behind another*
Also FIA: *Keeps Sochi on the calendar*
💸
@@missouriresole4726 if money is the case, there are also great tracks in Russia like Moscow Raceway, so money has nothing to do it
Wait... Are there instances in racing where a car isn't following another car?
@@stepladder3257 it's the organisers with the money not the country. It's a similar scenario in UAE theres a much better track in Dubai but the organisers want their track to be on the calendar
@@stepladder3257 Money has everything to do with it. Moscow Raceway is two hours away from Moscow, in the middle of nowhere. Russia is trying to turn Sochi into the South of France on the Black Sea, with skiing, glamorous shops, massive mansions, and a Grand Prix
5:35 your wish was granted… you saw a fantastic overtake there ;)
watching this after the 2023 season and seeing what you suggested for spain
nailed it
The fact that they've now actually removed the chicane at Catalunya shows youre speaking facts
I love how they actually DID a few of your ideas😭
It's such a coincidence all these races have had good races this year
Especially China and Singapore; blew my mind.
With my mind literally blown, I have no way of remembering what happened...
@@alexander_strachan 😂 okay maybe the main 4
Paul Ricard, yes. Sochi sucked until the rain came, Abu Dabi sucked until the safety car came, Spain sucked period, Monaco can't have a good race with F1 cars no matter how hard you try, Singapore and shanghai weren't even there
@@OnionChoppingNinja Like I said, maybe Main 4
They’ve changed Abu Dhabi now
Sochi just became the most exciting track in the world. All it took was moving the last few corners on to the train tracks.
Wow, a few years later and we have:
- Sochi and France removed from the kalender
- Monaco and China the same as they work
- Spain, Abu Dhabi and Singapore did nearly what you said.
Amazing 🔥
- The returns of the French Grand Prix is looking impossible for me, even more impossible than the German Grand Prix.
- Still waiting for the Monaco Grand Prix with track changed, while, for me, the Chinese Grand Prix not need change.
- Glad to see the Spanish*, Abu Dhabi, and Singapore Grands Prix to became much more better.
* = Only for moved to Madrid in 2026 due to politics reason in between Spanish and Catalan government.
France and russia produced exciting races this season thankfully. Let's see if UAE joins the party too with the new layout and moreover it may be the title-deciding race of this season.
Been waiting for this one since monday
3:45
I would remove the chicane in the middle of the straight and add the hard braking zone at the end of the straight. I like the decreasing radius corner that you killed.
Another change for the Catalunya circuit : Turn 1. Make it sharper to force a heavy breaking there.
In Monaco, extending the back straight through the tunnel by a little bit would not change the reasons why almost no passing occurs on the highest speed section of the track - that the drivers use up all the road width through the tunnel, and then you are immediately into a downhill breaking section the moment you are done navigating that curving tunnel section. If they could move the chicane farther away so that there is some space between exiting the bending tunnel and braking for the chicane, then MAYBE that might help a tiny bit?
Or if you want to see the F1 drivers around the circuit and actually passing, maybe have a karting exhibition event for the F1 drivers to compete in on the same weekend for charity or something? 🤔
For Barcelona, you also need to change Turn 1. Its suppose to be a heavy braking zone à la Monza, but its still a fast corner. Or you can change turn 3 to make it a very sharp hairpin so that the dirty air problem associated with turn 3 isnt as egregious.
Tommo, I freaking love your videos mate! Keep doing what you're doing you legend!!!
Thank you buddy!
RIP 'Tommo F1'. Hello Tommo
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@@TommoMcCluskey 👋
Honestly, most of these redesigns aren't great. Starting with France, the issue there is really dirty air before the Mistral Straight. That problem should be sorted with the 2022 cars though, as the dirty air will be greatly reduced. Beausset has been ruined as well, being a brilliant fast corner where cars can go side-by-side if they get out of signes together. The final sector definitely has potential, but that chicane looks very awkward, and would just let gaps increase onto the pit straight.
Sochi would not really work for the T7-T9 section, as the dirty air through 7 will kill any passing opportunity into 8. Turn 8 is also a nice corner, and the flow there is ruined. Bypassing the 15-16 chicane is a big improvement, and the last two corners are improved, although the space taken up might mean that it is impossible. The pit entry could be improved with this last corner, with potentially an 80kph speed limit, which decreases the pit delta.
Abu Dhabi's chicane before the hairpin has to exist, for safety. If the drivers did just skip it, the FIA would DQ them, or just not sanction the event. The new section at the harbour could work, but the issue there would be runoff, as the facilities there would restrict what could be done.
Spain's big issue is dirty air, so bypassing the chicane is a big no. There is a reason that F1 stopped using the chicane. The dirty air through the final corner would be a lot worse without the chicane, so passing would be a lot harder, as the following car can't carry enough speed to be close down the straight. The tighter new turn in S2 would give a passing place, but looks too tight to race well.
Monaco's change is one that I do like, and it could work well. Moving nouvelle back could help as well, if a new area is built just like the existing chicane.
Singapore's arena section (T16-19) will be torn down in a year or two iirc, so there could be a straight between the current T16 and 19. The final corner would require a lot of building work, especially as it requires a lot more runoff than the current corner.
China's redesign could work very well, but the racing there can be very good already, so it doesn't really need to change.
Hmmm
I love how tommo rips on Saudi Arabia just for it to be an amazing circuit
Simple modification to Monaco is to remove the hump in the road from casino to mirabeau to create an overtaking opportunity into turn 5
7:38 Fernando Alonso would approve the removal of that chicane.
chicken*
00:59
“massive in the dirty air F1 for obviously is a problem current spec”
5:26 *Spa-Francorchamps entered the chat*
While being a much better track, it also makes cooler machine gun.
@@Khan-ts2ji **cooler .44 Magnum S&W
Problem with altering Yas Marina is all the buildings. Can't change many parts of it because it's routing around a building. For removing that chicane into the hairpin, that works except now you have a big braking zone with no run-off (a big building & grandstand is right there). You can however also move that hairpin up 20 meters (closer to where the chicane currently is) with a curved exit onto the long straight.
YM also has a bunch of off-camber turns, if the track was re-profiled so that these turns banked in instead of banking out, following would be a lot easier.
10:39 they've fixed a bit for next year but only turn 16-19 due to redevelopment nearby the turns, turn 20-21 remain unchanged
For those tracks that already have the changes in the form of slip roads, I wonder if an e-sports simulation can be held to see if these changes make things more interesting!
4:15 tbf Saudi looks pretty good (commenting this day of first practice there)
I'm just gonna say I think Singapore has great races every time (racing wise). 2019's race was the most underrated race of the year.
It seems to me like the only way they could "Fix" Monaco is by making the event a staggered start time trial. If nobody can overtake, eliminate position as the winning factor. If an overtake happens, all it does is gain time.
Tommo: worst an bored circuits
2021: hold my beer
Everyone: Tilke builds hard braking zones everywhere
This Video: We need MOAR hard braking zones 🤔🤨
The chicane at the hairpin at Yas Marina is only there for safety reasons as there is very little run off.
I was waiting for this since you revealed the thumbnail in the last video, lol 😂
They could make the final corner at Shanghai a little rounder because it's a hard-to-judge corner and they could go faster which gives a better change of overtaking into turn 1.
2:16 My suggestion it is that Formula One should race at the streets of Paris and MotoGP making its debut at Circuit de Paul Ricard for the French Grand Prix
Feels like this man loves heartbreaks.
Another fantastic video!
If you didn’t say to change that part in Abu Dhabi 5:59 Lewis might have won the championship
The incredible thing is the changes they've made are almost exactly what you suggested for Abu Dhabi, well done!
Great Video btw lovely the 2 vids a week !! 😃😃😃😃
Rip the f1 😪🤧
I remember hearing that the reason they had to add that horrible chicane in Abu Dhabi is that they didn't have enough runoff compared to the amount of speed they would carry into that corner or something.
It's rumored to be the same case for Spain and its last chicane
@@kempo_95 And it happened!
@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 Finally yes 🤣
@@kempo_95 🤣😎👏🙌
I actually really like Singapore, one of my favorites!
Probably top 3 with Silverstone, and Japan
Why though?
@@eggselent9814 because it’s tight, difficult, the drivers get so close to the walls and the back drop is amazing
@@Tainami_ Problem is, it never produces great racing
@@eggselent9814 What do you want to expect on a track that looks more like a maze than a "race" track. No wonder why ppl describe it as; "just a bigger version of a Formula E track."
I love how Hungaroring is not on the video while it is a horrendous track, almost impossible to overtake and that track has been revised once already
Hi tommo im a Singaporean here...just wanna add that the grandstand at turn 18-21 (part that u want it to be removed to make long straight to the last corner) is going to be demolished soon to construct a venue called NS Square which will be done at around 2025 so the circuit layout is up in the air for the future. As for that youth olympic park theres a highway and a big bridge that starts from the road beside it so it cant just be demolished and make the track go through there. Cheers :)
I feel like Tommo's monte carlo change would make an interesting reverse circuit, the uphill hairpin might suck abit tho
Monaco is the only track that would work in reverse. People say you can't run in reverse because there is no run off, but in Monaco there is no run off either way
If Tommo was in charge of designing F1 tracks:
Asphalt man: How many chicane/hairpin turns do you want?
Tommo: yes
i think spa is shaped more like a gun then yas marina spa shaped like a uzi
Good video idea: Tommo’s perfect 23 race calendar. So you replace the boring tracks to what you think should be on the calendar (mugello,kyalami etc) to make up the perfect track season.
My understanding about that chicane early on in Yas Marina is that it exists for spectator safety. Without that chicane the speeds are too high with no runoff between the corner and the grandstands. Ditching it would absolutely improve the circuit though.
They've fixed that issue in 2021 by just moving the corner earlier so you still have runoff.
Well this was recorded late, Imola's back!
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Yep, Imola needs to fixed for sure. Of all the optional tracks, they pick this one!
@@CIinbox How would you fix it? Imo, the track flow is brilliant. The only change I would make is to go straight on at the small right kink before Rivazza and then make Rivazza a tight hairpin and then have it open up like Parabolica (@Monza). However, this would reduce the chance of an overtake at Variante Bassa, although we could create a "new" Variante Bassa by switching the side of the pit boxes and reversing the direction of the chicane, also removing the small right kink that proceeds Variante Bassa. I thought of placing it after the start line, but there is a restaurant there and Italian's love their food, so I wouldn't want to remove it. Saying that though, I would absolutely YEET the ice skating arena at Sochi, cos, who really actually cares about ice skating.
Okay, the Variante Bassa would be the same direction, just further out. I AM STUPID
Unfortunately.
Honestly, none of us would be able to realistically make these tracks better. We just think we could.
Actually, for Spain, we could try and make turn one a heavier braking zone as its risky to go side by side in its current form.
Risky is exciting though no?
@@TommoMcCluskey problem is, it's hardly a braking zone now though
Or just change turn 6 into a big flat out corner
Yes it is exciting. But at the hint of an overtaking move some drivers just take the escape route or we have racing incidents (Stroll-Norris). Its really difficult to go side by side at that speed and angle. Maybe widening the corner like turn one in Portugal?
Damn, 90% of your proposals would make the tracks even worse!
Narrow corners doesn't guarantee suitable overtaking spots. Sometimes you also need a flow in a specific section of the tracks to make it more drivable.
I love how saudi arabia, france and RUSSIA were bangers last year
Saudi and france👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Tommo, can't _believe_
you didn't fix Sochi turn one two complex
You didn't remove the chicane in the Paul Richard straight
You added MORE chicanes to Sochi and Paul Richard.
You didn't fix turn one two in Barcelona
YOU DO IT THEN 😅😉
what is wrong with turn 2 in barcalona?
@@TvLOverdose it's very single line and the approach angles are not sharp enough, so you have to be completely alongside
@@crawfordbrown75 are we talking about the same corner here mate?
@@TvLOverdose Probably not, you may want to look it up
ABUDHABI They already removed the t5-6 chicane, it is the corner Verstappen became world champion!
Damit, you put two of my favourites. Singapore and Sochi. I would like to see the Singapore sling back tho and the removal of that off camber chicane at Sochi, but they’re very satisfying tracks to drive.(at least on the f1 game)
Also the original intention was to not have that chicane at Yas Marina but the stand behind it meant that they couldn’t get the runoff needed.
I am sorry but sochi is so crap to drive on the f1 game its so ded its just break turn break turn break turn
Sochi...
is one of your favourite tracks???
@@TommoMcCluskey i hate to watch Sochi gp, but on an F1 game it is really good to drive on. On the other hand, I absolutly hate do drive in China and (of course) Spain and 3rd sector in France
@@TommoMcCluskey that section between the 180° turn and the 2nd DRS str8 is sooo satisfying to drive
@@TommoMcCluskey yeah it’s a shit race to watch but decent to drive. On the other hand I’m not a huge fan of Suzuka so maybe I’m just weird?🤔
I think at Singapore turns 8 and 14 the junction should be opened up so they have to cross over each others paths. Williams would then have an actual chance of "knocking" Lewis off the podium. Also, random red lights and crossing trains.
I will be fair i like most of the tracks. Monaco I agree with you Tommo, no change is better, but well... (If i could I would change Monaco with Australia).
But about Singapore I have another change that might be even better: so instead of cutting turns 18 through 21 and passing through the park, you could instead cut turns 16 through 19, make a chicane or something else at turns 20 and 21 and maybe maintain the actual last corners.