This looks just like MX Linux as far as stuff there. Even the app installer / tweaks same. Even the kernel tool is the same. So is this antix or arch+antix (however you spell it, the one that MX uses)?
Not using cachy os itself, but took their config for kernel. System works actually faster and in games frametime became more stable without vsync. Definitely worth a try and not a placebo
CachyOS has been great for me as a first time Linux user (yes i jumped right into Arch) but it's handled everything so well and the support on discord with their devs and founders are very good! 10/10 experience jumping in Linux!
good for you. i agree people think arch is hard and ubuntu is easier lol. i think differently. arch teaches you to manage your software, and its easier to get any packages you want. this is my favorite arch distro,
I still have projects going on my Fedora so I can't get out yet. And it's my first time using GNOME so I kinda enjoying it. But I like to try Hyperland with that OS.
i love arch i always had issues figuring out stuff on ubuntui and such arch has kinda taught me a bit about how to use linux, ppl can say what they want but i recommend cachyos to anyone new or old. my 2nd favorite distro is opensuse "so far" im testing it on a 2nd drive, but my favorite linux company is system76 :) #waitingforcosmic
Welcome to 2024 lol Distro been around for ages and the best Arch distro period! also about the title try CachyOS - Arch that is Optimized and Stable out of the Gate
yea we gotta set this guy straight lol. your video is what got my ears perked up about nvidia and linux being good. because this is my first pc with nvidia spent a yr on winblows for games "as an excuse" i've still not had luck with main DE's like you have, with wayland and kde or gnome. i still enjoy my trusty xfce, and awesomewm but i may have found a solution. with having 2 drives in my pc i have opensuse tw with kde on it, none gaming just everyday casual use so im giving it a shot because all i've ever heard is how stable it is.
@@jr_LinuxI have TW on my AMD system and CachyOS on my Nvidia system. I have good experiences on both with KDE and Wayland. I keep GNOME around but I don't use it like I used to. Funnily enough, when I migrated TW from an old Nvidia machine to the AMD machine, X11 stopped working so I have to use Wayland anyway.
Used it for the past few weeks and it is really a nice distro. It is faster than fedora on my i3 10th gen laptop. I have never used arch before and it was a easy switch with that distro
I use it on a very, very old laptop now. My mid 2014 desktop and my high end gaming machine (the only one with a graphics card.) and I can even game (within reason) on all of the. All boot fast and run smoothly with easy to do and find and install features/apps. Crazy, crazy good like nothing before for everyone! Love it.
It's a really great Arch distro. The installer, the kernel, The command line window during installation; it's all very nice. It reminds me of a very toned down. Flagship Garuda with the tweaks window. I'm not really hunting for a distro but I do like the window shopping and this one is top five for me , for all the reasons I listed.
Garuda's Gnome edition has pretty stock settings, it is my daily driver and chaotic-aur is extremely useful, I'm never going back to any Arch-based distro that doesn't use it
I just installed CachyOS/KDE about a week ago, and so far I like it for the most part; except one problem the wifi hotspots doesn't seem to work yet the normal wifi works or lan line works. I was using Ubuntu 24.10/Gnome 47 before this. Well for initial boot up ram usage: CachyOS/KDE 2.6 GB, Ubuntu 24.10/Gnome 3.1 GB. Many say the compositor for KDE is better for gaming than Gnome's mutter. Glad you reviewed it, like you said this is a great OS for gamers with high end rigs.
I run a distro that uses the Cachy scheduler, its unambiguously smoother and snappier than the vanilla kernel for me. I was genuinely surprised it paid off. I don't think this is going to net you far better performance, but it certainly seems to deliver more consistent frame times.
been using garuda for 2 years+ and just moved to cachyos 2 months ago, it feels snappier than garuda. so far it's been great. i mostly game and watch youtube and it's awesome for me
@loeow well it depends on what you need. For gaming performance it's pretty similar. For general OS usage it feels more snappy any lightweight. Quite a lot of stuff feels similar. But i would say the forum moderators are better in the cachy forum. They're more respectful and keen to help the newbies. Garuda mods are kinda snarky and elitist, always saying stuffs like "we didn't make this os for you, we just let you use it" or "we're doing this for free"
Does it really have faster speed over Arch? Those patches to the kennel shouldn't have been developed by the CashyOS team but others. Then, why weren't they included in thr regular kernel? Isn't it because they have some catches or unstable?
I gt cachy os installed on an ancient dell laptop (e5400), fitted with an SSD. It starts up faster than any other distro, and the performance is exceptional for such an old device. I use the laptop for more netbook related things, and it has been able to keep up with my "leave more tabs open than stars in the universe" tendancy quite well, I use a mix of brave and cachyos browser for most web browsing.
ive been using cachyos since about july and i have not wanted to distrohop after its just arch but fast, everything else feels slow now even if i try using the tkg kernel.
This looks just like MX Linux as far as stuff there. Even the app installer / tweaks same. Even the kernel tool is the same. So is this antix or arch+antix (however you spell it, the one that MX uses)
I believe it aims to be MX for Arch. Not there yet, but if they should really manage to build a similar asset of useful tools into their distro, it`ll be a great alternative to MX or OpenSuse with Yast. Those Distros make system tweaks & maintenance really easy w/o limiting the user in any way. As someone, who doesn't see Linux as a hobby, but still want to be able to have control over my system, I love the approach. Together with the optimisation it is also a great choice for gamers. So I think there is more to it, than "just" an Endeavour clone with kernel optimisation, but I do understand, that at its current state one can have that impression.
@@nord2992 Oh, those tools are build for it like MX does. That is awesome, I am gong to try it now. I have to, I love MX and the approach is the reason also. This can actually let someone like me be able to try arch out without breaking it too fast, haha. Good looking out fam, for real. I appreciate the response. Much Love and Respect
@@Shrapnel_Music Yes, MX is great! It was my first Distro, that I used for a longer period of time. I will not try out Cachy though, as I do not want an Arch based Distro. Just to much hassle, that tend to arise over time with Arch. I'm on OpenSuse (tumbleweed) since a few weeks and think, that it is going to stay for a while:). I wish you a good ride with Cachy and have fun.
@@nord2992 I will give it a try for sure, but I'm a debian fan myself. Fedora also, I think I would actually stick with Fedora KDE if there was a snapshot tool like MX has, haha. Thank you for a good conversation. That's rare on here.
funny , I just found this today and started installing after work. Looked for a video to watch while waiting for OS to install and found your video on the same OS. Trying on a 9900K x 2080TI , will see how it goes. I am tinkering around until Fedora 42 KDE workstation comes out then I would probably move my main rig to it. Thanks for the video
The vanilla Linux kernel has quietly become very, very performant over the last two years. Amusing to me that Cachy OS has finally attained mass popularity just as it finds itself trading blows with Ubuntu in benchmarks. Granted, responsiveness is a whole other kettle of fish altogether.
I've been using this for about 6 months, stopped me from distro hopping. Every Windows game I play via Steam plays flawlessly. When logged into a Google account with two party authentication via my Android phone is said "New login on a Windows device." 😲
Been on it since late August and the only big issue I had was bottlenecking in early November (Nvidia/Intel) but then it fixed itself. I heard it might have something to do with a recent kernel regression.
could you give more details, because i experienced it too and still want to know what happened because it affected the whole desktop experience terribly
"Hey mike, did you finish the financial analysis of our company? Sure thing, i just used a operational system called "catchy os" to do that" Mike has been promoted instantly, for the role of janitor of "the simpsons" high school"
After years of flirting with Linux distros I finally decided to install CachyOS on a new SSD and it's been great so far. Installing AUR packages takes a little getting used to, but otherwise everything is working the way I need it to.
I use it on two of my devices. There is even more packages that's optimized besides the kernel. It's sane default's, most gaming related software installed saves me a bit of time. I would just use regular arch if not.
You should do this on 'distrosea" -- it lets you jump into these in 30 seconds and look around.. Apparently it runs it on a VM on the server side, and you can poke around inside the distro through the browser.
This has been around for a while and I have used it for almost a year and a half. I have been preaching this distro since I started to use it, as their BORE scheduler is simply OP..
Once I get some hardware for a separate project I'm going to run some benchmark with some of the distos that claim performance gains. It's going to be fun.
@@TechHut The nice thing about BORE is not just numbers, but responsiveness under heavy load. I can run tasks that might usually lock up my PC for anything else and still use it fine with BORE. Some of the Sched-ext schedulers can be really fun to experiment with for different workloads too, but that's going to be in mainline next year, too. I really like the kernel manager, too! Switching between the schedulers is extremely easy, you literally just pick from a list and click apply. I've been on it for a few months now, and I think you are right on the money with the Endeavour comparison; it's very similar to that, but with a lot of optimizations to play around with to speed up some workloads. I had a great experience so far even on Nvidia.
I installed a long time ago it but couldn't use it due to technical difficulties. So I went back to Fedora. Arch is simply not for me. I wish Fedora had optimized kernels and repos. Especially for V3.
Last weekend I tried to install it on my portable ssd to playaround but installation stuck when choosing fastest mirror, not sure why, speedtest my internet, looks normal, downloading stuff also normal, will try again this week
I run Garuda KDE as daily driver for work on a moderna hardaware., with great resuklts = no problems wats so ever! Recently I have added another driver with CachyOS KDE on same machine and so far it's perfect, maybe slightly faster maybe same but it feels really great and stable. I have tested many othger distros, the only ones that felt good enoygh was Garuda Mint LMDE and now I can add CachyOS that seems the best of all them! Anyway I see forward your benchmarks compared to Window (dual boot it only for Adobe software when I must use it)
16 months on Cachyos.Weekly looking at numbers and benchmarking. No other distro beats it so far on my am5 7800x3d and 4090 for gaming.. Prolly one of the most stable rolling distro as well. There is a pretty skilled team monitoring everything that comes out, and are with in pretty much a few hours to up to 12 hours to fix unstable stuff, if the revert etc. I also noticed, going trough some other distros that does the same. It feels like im allways missing something on the other linux distros, where things dont work as intended. Its pretty much install and use here. Its less micro management, due the devs keeps in mind of the users, either they are experienced or not. I use this distro now on 3 computers. 2 desktops and a laptop. If im to use linux, this is the one i trust the most.
I've recently installed this OS on my secondary laptop instead of EndeavorOS and its definitely a lot quicker and snappier. I think i'll switch on my main pc too (also currently running EndeavorOS).
Saying that a GUI for terminal commands is pointless is kind of strange. Why use a GUI for anything if the Terminal exists, then? Perhaps having visual references for what to do instead of learning and memorizing typed commands is more efficient? (Not always true but definitely true for a lot of people a lot of the time) Perhaps this would be tons easier to use on a HTPC where keyboard commands are cumbersome and you don't want to keep a wireless keyboard immidiately at the ready and taking up space in your living quarters. Not being practical for your use case is one thing, calling it a "waste of time" is another.
I think cachyos is a bit more than an easy installer like endeavours and arco, it has actual system level modifications to the kernel that makes huge improvements in speed,
yea even though i know nothing about kernel stuff, or the technical things, i learned something new about linux, because i didn't know there was so many "grub" options i didn't know what these scheduler things were. till i found this distro, i don't really mess with it but out the box i haven't had any issues. got a 2060 super nvidia gpu works great.
I tried it when it first came out on my old PC and couldn't get it up and running. Tried it again recently after seeing some videos talking about it and with a new PC and had different problems with the same result couldn't get it up and running. Ah well.
@@ominoussage Actually the problem was never the USB stick, mostly it would crash during install. When I did finally get it to install, that opened up a whole new set of problems. I came to the conclusion it just wasn't worth the time/effort when there are so many other distros that I didn't have any issues with. But thanks for the tip! 🙂
@@jeffrodrequez oh i thought it wasn't booting at all since you said you "couldn't get it up and running" but okay. I also tried CachyOS but it doesn't seem to detect my touchpad properly (in the live session, at least. It's recognizing my touchpad as if it's a mouse. There's no touchpad settings either). Idk if it'll fix itself if I install it but I'm hesitant now. I'm using Bluefin and it's been alright.
1. Try PikaOS, it's very similar to cachyos with cachy kernel, but debian based (with fresh packages channel) 2. maybe it's a ram/ssd issue? it's also known that cachyos have problems with some intel cpus, but works really good on amd cpus. 3. go with any distro and just compile cachy kernel for your setup, or install already compiled cachy kernel from sources :)
Switched to CachyOS recently after I broke Fedora. Could've just reinstalled, or gone with OpenSUSE for v3 packages, but wanted to try Arch. It boots faster, launches apps faster, and isn't much harder to use. Biggest issue I've had is manual Firewall configuration. It "just worked" on Fedora. Love the AUR. Lots of niche programs don't provide .rpm files but AUR is seemingly universal. Didn't see a massive raw performance boost, but it feels snappier, but that could just be placebo from a fresh install. Also now using KDE over GNOME. All the same defaults as Fedora (Wayland, BTRFS, Systemd). While I do miss Gnome Software and being able to browse an app store it isn't needed over terminal.
brooo, I broke my Fedora the same way yesterday (wrongly pushed my files to the git repo) and made a switch to cachyos, it's a really smooth experience and slightly better performance than fedora (btw i had fedora with Cachy-bore kernel, ananicy-cpp and etc, but even with that Cachyos feels more better). i also was using Fedora sway spin and now im on cachyos sway spin, i thinked about switching to Kde, but i think De's consumes too much ram(?). i have 7.1gb of ram because of integrated gpu and only 700mb usage on idle on Swaywm
Ditto. I’ve tried CachyOS and I wasn’t convinced. I did noticed the UI on KDE plasma was snappy - but I wondered if these were UI tweaks. Went back to Arch btw.
@@BeastViper007Arch isn't even a flex anymore, it's not hard and it's become mainstream. Not that either is a bad thing, but using Arch is no longer a flex of knowledge.
I like what they are trying to do, some of their default configs though are odd to me (like rt patches that rarely help desktop use, setting swappiness to 100,etc).
@@fooboomoo A couple of examples, rt patches can actually hurt desktop performance in many cases. Many people think that rt means fast... it just means that task interuptions have low latency, but if you let any process be interrupted quickly and often, it hurts performance... especially if those are desktop related threads for example. Swappiness to 100 doesn't make a lot of sense.. Why would you encourage a higher likelihood to swap to disk than is default? Sure, it'll make your free ram numbers high, but it will slow pulling cached memory pages back to active memory way down. Better to let the kernel do its thing and keep stuff in memory until that memory is needed.
4:08 That person should have given more info what issues the person had. I have CachyOS and so far I dont have issues nor did I do specifc configs except editing a few config files and /etc/fstab to enable RW for my drives for Steam gaming.
I can definitely recommend Pica. I'm running it on my desktop, and it is a significant improvement over base debian stable for gaming. Pikman is a really nice package manager, and having access to things like hyprland with the reliability of debian is pretty cool.
CachyOS has been superb for me, I have dabbled in linux but never found anything as stable and simple as cachyOS, plays all my windows games at better FPS than windows itself.
@@Andrei-x5u I got better speed when using cachy os compared to arch. Some things happened and the file system crashed a week ago. I am not sure who is to blame for that (some bug or me doing crazy things). I am not going to use cachy os most likely. I will stick to mainline arch.
6:49 Because you know what you're doing. A lot of distros have the (noble if premature) goal of being ready for everyone, to be a welcome home for Window ex-pats. They make these tools with the hope that someone who doesn't know what options there are in Linux for things like media viewing, or browser options are, &c. It's a good GOAL, but Linux, as much as I love it, is NOT for the masses - Not yet, at least.
What I don't get is why other distributions don't at least offer more CPU-optimized releases. I understand that obviously compiling for the lowest common denominator simplifies things, ensures compatibility and reduces confusion, but would it really hurt, say, Debian if they introduced a new arch with special modern CPU optimizations? I mean, it's not like they don't already support a bunch of architectures already. The biggest problem would probably be manpower; all the additional effort needed for a whole new architecture. But wait, Debian has already hinted that 32-bit PC support may be reaching the end. In the wake of its demise, why not introduce a new AMD64 arch compiled with optimizations and enhancements for newer instruction sets? I know I was really using Debian as an example here, but the same applies for every major distribution with the community support to make it happen. Fedora, openSUSE, etc. The thing is, most other distros already *have* dropped 32-bit systems long ago, and they're still mostly targeting the bare minimum of hardware with no optimized builds as an option. One of the first Linux distributions I ran as my primary system was called Yoper. Long gone now, it was an i686 distro that was built with extra CPU optimizations at the time.
Your comment about the Package Installer being a waste of dev time is 100% wrong, and you're FAR from the first "Linux TH-camr" to demonstrate that inherent and pervasive tone-deafness to what is ACTUALLY innovating and improving the desktop computing space. What you said warranted this comment. Perhaps you SHOULD have said "I'm not sure I find this particularly interesting or notable from my use-case personally, but of course your mileage may vary" if you only meant it as a personal perspective.
I agree that all these "choices" are completely redundant.. Why do we need cashyOS and endeavor and garuda? Just why?? They are all doing the same thing at slightly different levels of completion. I wish linux would stop doing this-- but it's not going to happen. lol. Just use Garuda.. and be done with it........ I liked it, but I couldn't use it because I had issues with my old screen and finding the right resolution, etc... and that made my mouse scroll too fast.. But If you have a 1080p screen or higher, you shouldn't have these issues. (I went to Nobara instead; it has built in sliders for overscan and also the scroll wheel speed- so it has been awesome)
CPU scheduling on linux in general is known to be better than on windows, so the performance difference you've seen might not even matter at all. An example from me would be that Baldur's Gate 3, a fairly new, heavy game with terrible Vulkan support runs better for me on linux than on windows, because my bottleneck was the CPU and not the GPU. If the reverse was the case, I would be certain to see a drop in performance on linux considering what kind of game this is.
CachyOS I have found to have the best Gnome experience out there. All my favourite Gnome extensions are available and work as they should. I also use two popular distros built primarily around the Gnome desktop, but Cachy is the standout. If I had a critism it would be with the Terminal, which is not to my taste. My first Arch/CachyOS experience is a positive one.
I completely disagree.. The software manger/installers are a HUGE leap forward for the distros that are doing it. If you put that installer in front of a complete noob.. he can get things installed.. If you put the terminal in front of a noob.. he is literally stuck and must now go down a rabbit hole for hours, just to learn how to get his distro setup.
honestly, this just seems like another manjaro/steamos to me. optimizations are cool, but having it done for you is no better than doing it yourself, and if you do optimizations yourself then you don't have to worry about the maintainers quitting. i've got the zen kernel, i've got all the libraries i need, i'm not worried about more optimizations than i've done myself. may be good for a laptop though, i can see how an installer would be nicer on a laptop!
in fact if they get rid of systemd i'll be very interested. i'm not a big fan of systemd despite the stuff it makes easier, since it has to be optimized itself just to improve boot times. i have my eye on gentoo for a future laptop for that reason!
it's not better, they are just the same, with the one exception - cachyos is arch and pikaos is debian (with fresh packages). pikaos uses cachy kernel and cachyos too, they are just literally the same distros, but with different package managers
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This looks just like MX Linux as far as stuff there. Even the app installer / tweaks same. Even the kernel tool is the same.
So is this antix or arch+antix (however you spell it, the one that MX uses)?
In my opinion Cachy Os is the best arch linux distro.
Oh yes! This is a Linux Distro I definitely recommend. I've been using it for nearly 7 months now, and it's been super stable, and very snappy.
Are you using LTS kernel?
Not using cachy os itself, but took their config for kernel. System works actually faster and in games frametime became more stable without vsync. Definitely worth a try and not a placebo
yea for me yes i play it safe i install xfce but cachyos works practically out the box its amazing.
CachyOS is like EndeavourOS for people who want nearly instant app installs and launches. Makes that AUR experience a lot more fast and seamless.
fr? I'm running endeavour atm, and I'm pretty happy with it, but it is running on a laptop, so any performance gains would definitely be appreciated.
@@paultapping9510 check out ALHP. It's even better performance and you don't even need to switch distros
@@paultapping9510 I don't recommend cachyos for laptops
@@paultapping9510i mean there are more lightweight distros out there if ur pc is weak
CachyOS has been great for me as a first time Linux user (yes i jumped right into Arch) but it's handled everything so well and the support on discord with their devs and founders are very good! 10/10 experience jumping in Linux!
good for you. i agree people think arch is hard and ubuntu is easier lol. i think differently. arch teaches you to manage your software, and its easier to get any packages you want. this is my favorite arch distro,
CachyOS is the only distribution that has pulled me away from Fedora. It’s seriously awesome!
I still have projects going on my Fedora so I can't get out yet. And it's my first time using GNOME so I kinda enjoying it. But I like to try Hyperland with that OS.
i love arch i always had issues figuring out stuff on ubuntui and such arch has kinda taught me a bit about how to use linux, ppl can say what they want but i recommend cachyos to anyone new or old. my 2nd favorite distro is opensuse "so far" im testing it on a 2nd drive, but my favorite linux company is system76 :) #waitingforcosmic
My Antivirus sadly not supported by CachyOS and CachyOS has not a complete Secure Boot, its fake with disabled shim 😂
@@demerdemer328 why you need antivirus on linux
Welcome to 2024 lol Distro been around for ages and the best Arch distro period! also about the title try CachyOS - Arch that is Optimized and Stable out of the Gate
yea we gotta set this guy straight lol. your video is what got my ears perked up about nvidia and linux being good. because this is my first pc with nvidia spent a yr on winblows for games "as an excuse" i've still not had luck with main DE's like you have, with wayland and kde or gnome. i still enjoy my trusty xfce, and awesomewm but i may have found a solution.
with having 2 drives in my pc i have opensuse tw with kde on it, none gaming just everyday casual use so im giving it a shot because all i've ever heard is how stable it is.
@@jr_LinuxI have TW on my AMD system and CachyOS on my Nvidia system. I have good experiences on both with KDE and Wayland. I keep GNOME around but I don't use it like I used to. Funnily enough, when I migrated TW from an old Nvidia machine to the AMD machine, X11 stopped working so I have to use Wayland anyway.
i use it for ages, best arch distro ever. benchmarks are killing competitors
Okay but whoever made your disk capacity that specific needs jail time
Used it for the past few weeks and it is really a nice distro. It is faster than fedora on my i3 10th gen laptop. I have never used arch before and it was a easy switch with that distro
I use it on a very, very old laptop now. My mid 2014 desktop and my high end gaming machine (the only one with a graphics card.) and I can even game (within reason) on all of the. All boot fast and run smoothly with easy to do and find and install features/apps. Crazy, crazy good like nothing before for everyone! Love it.
Arch is what I ended up with after years of distro hopping. The aur is my ride or die
It's a really great Arch distro. The installer, the kernel, The command line window during installation; it's all very nice. It reminds me of a very toned down. Flagship Garuda with the tweaks window. I'm not really hunting for a distro but I do like the window shopping and this one is top five for me , for all the reasons I listed.
CachyOS is my daily driver. I love the option to use ZFS and tweaks you get for gaming without getting into Garuda design.
Garuda's Gnome edition has pretty stock settings, it is my daily driver and chaotic-aur is extremely useful, I'm never going back to any Arch-based distro that doesn't use it
@ I added chaotic-aur to cachyos but I did not enjoy the Garuda tweaks
why zfs?
I just installed CachyOS/KDE about a week ago, and so far I like it for the most part; except one problem the wifi hotspots doesn't seem to work yet the normal wifi works or lan line works. I was using Ubuntu 24.10/Gnome 47 before this. Well for initial boot up ram usage: CachyOS/KDE 2.6 GB, Ubuntu 24.10/Gnome 3.1 GB. Many say the compositor for KDE is better for gaming than Gnome's mutter. Glad you reviewed it, like you said this is a great OS for gamers with high end rigs.
I run a distro that uses the Cachy scheduler, its unambiguously smoother and snappier than the vanilla kernel for me. I was genuinely surprised it paid off.
I don't think this is going to net you far better performance, but it certainly seems to deliver more consistent frame times.
been using garuda for 2 years+ and just moved to cachyos 2 months ago, it feels snappier than garuda. so far it's been great. i mostly game and watch youtube and it's awesome for me
is it better than garuda?
@loeow well it depends on what you need. For gaming performance it's pretty similar. For general OS usage it feels more snappy any lightweight. Quite a lot of stuff feels similar. But i would say the forum moderators are better in the cachy forum. They're more respectful and keen to help the newbies. Garuda mods are kinda snarky and elitist, always saying stuffs like "we didn't make this os for you, we just let you use it" or "we're doing this for free"
My favorite way to use CachyOS is to install it without a desktop and then install my own configurations but with the helpful tools on top
Does it really have faster speed over Arch? Those patches to the kennel shouldn't have been developed by the CashyOS team but others. Then, why weren't they included in thr regular kernel? Isn't it because they have some catches or unstable?
Been driving endeavor for a month, liking it so far
I've been running the same endeavor os install for 3 years and never had an issue. Id suggest it, it's pretty clean
Good distribution, I use it for a week, I like it
I gt cachy os installed on an ancient dell laptop (e5400), fitted with an SSD. It starts up faster than any other distro, and the performance is exceptional for such an old device. I use the laptop for more netbook related things, and it has been able to keep up with my "leave more tabs open than stars in the universe" tendancy quite well, I use a mix of brave and cachyos browser for most web browsing.
ive been using cachyos since about july and i have not wanted to distrohop after its just arch but fast, everything else feels slow now even if i try using the tkg kernel.
yea Impossible to go back. any other distro feels sluggish in comparison
This looks just like MX Linux as far as stuff there. Even the app installer / tweaks same. Even the kernel tool is the same.
So is this antix or arch+antix (however you spell it, the one that MX uses)
I believe it aims to be MX for Arch. Not there yet, but if they should really manage to build a similar asset of useful tools into their distro, it`ll be a great alternative to MX or OpenSuse with Yast. Those Distros make system tweaks & maintenance really easy w/o limiting the user in any way. As someone, who doesn't see Linux as a hobby, but still want to be able to have control over my system, I love the approach. Together with the optimisation it is also a great choice for gamers.
So I think there is more to it, than "just" an Endeavour clone with kernel optimisation, but I do understand, that at its current state one can have that impression.
@@nord2992 Oh, those tools are build for it like MX does. That is awesome, I am gong to try it now. I have to, I love MX and the approach is the reason also. This can actually let someone like me be able to try arch out without breaking it too fast, haha.
Good looking out fam, for real. I appreciate the response.
Much Love and Respect
@@Shrapnel_Music Yes, MX is great! It was my first Distro, that I used for a longer period of time. I will not try out Cachy though, as I do not want an Arch based Distro. Just to much hassle, that tend to arise over time with Arch. I'm on OpenSuse (tumbleweed) since a few weeks and think, that it is going to stay for a while:).
I wish you a good ride with Cachy and have fun.
@@nord2992 I will give it a try for sure, but I'm a debian fan myself. Fedora also, I think I would actually stick with Fedora KDE if there was a snapshot tool like MX has, haha.
Thank you for a good conversation. That's rare on here.
@@Shrapnel_Music +1 MX is a nice distro...I'm currently in Artix, but if I get a Legion 2 in January I'm gonna put CachyOS on it. :)
funny , I just found this today and started installing after work. Looked for a video to watch while waiting for OS to install and found your video on the same OS. Trying on a 9900K x 2080TI , will see how it goes. I am tinkering around until Fedora 42 KDE workstation comes out then I would probably move my main rig to it. Thanks for the video
The vanilla Linux kernel has quietly become very, very performant over the last two years. Amusing to me that Cachy OS has finally attained mass popularity just as it finds itself trading blows with Ubuntu in benchmarks.
Granted, responsiveness is a whole other kettle of fish altogether.
I have been using it for 6 months. Installed it on all my devices after a while.. Gaming PC, laptop
I've been using this for about 6 months, stopped me from distro hopping. Every Windows game I play via Steam plays flawlessly. When logged into a Google account with two party authentication via my Android phone is said "New login on a Windows device." 😲
CachyOS is my main OS atm and for many months, Nvidia is really good on this distro out of the box
Its an online installer so you do need internet for insrallation, which is the issue you had. They should really add feedback to tell the uer.
Supposedly, not supposably. I gotta check this out for sure!
CachyOS is the BEST!
Been on it since late August and the only big issue I had was bottlenecking in early November (Nvidia/Intel) but then it fixed itself. I heard it might have something to do with a recent kernel regression.
could you give more details, because i experienced it too and still want to know what happened because it affected the whole desktop experience terribly
"Hey mike, did you finish the financial analysis of our company? Sure thing, i just used a operational system called "catchy os" to do that" Mike has been promoted instantly, for the role of janitor of "the simpsons" high school"
I have a Beelink mini PC with a Ryzen 7 processor, and Cachy has been really good for it. Pop_OS was really slow on it, even with Cosmic.
you put bistro instead of distro in the description
Just use ALHP on normal arch, and you'll probably avoid some issues.
After years of flirting with Linux distros I finally decided to install CachyOS on a new SSD and it's been great so far. Installing AUR packages takes a little getting used to, but otherwise everything is working the way I need it to.
I use it on two of my devices. There is even more packages that's optimized besides the kernel. It's sane default's, most gaming related software installed saves me a bit of time. I would just use regular arch if not.
You should do this on 'distrosea" -- it lets you jump into these in 30 seconds and look around.. Apparently it runs it on a VM on the server side, and you can poke around inside the distro through the browser.
This has been around for a while and I have used it for almost a year and a half. I have been preaching this distro since I started to use it, as their BORE scheduler is simply OP..
Once I get some hardware for a separate project I'm going to run some benchmark with some of the distos that claim performance gains. It's going to be fun.
@@TechHut The nice thing about BORE is not just numbers, but responsiveness under heavy load. I can run tasks that might usually lock up my PC for anything else and still use it fine with BORE. Some of the Sched-ext schedulers can be really fun to experiment with for different workloads too, but that's going to be in mainline next year, too. I really like the kernel manager, too! Switching between the schedulers is extremely easy, you literally just pick from a list and click apply.
I've been on it for a few months now, and I think you are right on the money with the Endeavour comparison; it's very similar to that, but with a lot of optimizations to play around with to speed up some workloads. I had a great experience so far even on Nvidia.
I installed a long time ago it but couldn't use it due to technical difficulties. So I went back to Fedora.
Arch is simply not for me. I wish Fedora had optimized kernels and repos. Especially for V3.
You can install the cachyos kernel in fedora using their coppr repo.
I think if they can do that, then they can also use cachy @@BeastViper007
Last weekend I tried to install it on my portable ssd to playaround but installation stuck when choosing fastest mirror, not sure why, speedtest my internet, looks normal, downloading stuff also normal, will try again this week
I run Garuda KDE as daily driver for work on a moderna hardaware., with great resuklts = no problems wats so ever! Recently I have added another driver with CachyOS KDE on same machine and so far it's perfect, maybe slightly faster maybe same but it feels really great and stable. I have tested many othger distros, the only ones that felt good enoygh was Garuda Mint LMDE and now I can add CachyOS that seems the best of all them! Anyway I see forward your benchmarks compared to Window (dual boot it only for Adobe software when I must use it)
CachyOS has been so good for me! Even better than endeavour stability wise. And they have their own nvidia drivers which just works:tm:
16 months on Cachyos.Weekly looking at numbers and benchmarking. No other distro beats it so far on my am5 7800x3d and 4090 for gaming.. Prolly one of the most stable rolling distro as well. There is a pretty skilled team monitoring everything that comes out, and are with in pretty much a few hours to up to 12 hours to fix unstable stuff, if the revert etc.
I also noticed, going trough some other distros that does the same. It feels like im allways missing something on the other linux distros, where things dont work as intended. Its pretty much install and use here. Its less micro management, due the devs keeps in mind of the users, either they are experienced or not. I use this distro now on 3 computers. 2 desktops and a laptop. If im to use linux, this is the one i trust the most.
CachyOᵘᵗSᶦᵈᵉ ... how bout dat
Can one use it for business purposes ? If so I’m all ears
I use CachyOS and it performs very well. Had the fish shell crash repeatedly so I reverted to using BASH and it is flawless.
I've recently installed this OS on my secondary laptop instead of EndeavorOS and its definitely a lot quicker and snappier. I think i'll switch on my main pc too (also currently running EndeavorOS).
Saying that a GUI for terminal commands is pointless is kind of strange. Why use a GUI for anything if the Terminal exists, then? Perhaps having visual references for what to do instead of learning and memorizing typed commands is more efficient? (Not always true but definitely true for a lot of people a lot of the time)
Perhaps this would be tons easier to use on a HTPC where keyboard commands are cumbersome and you don't want to keep a wireless keyboard immidiately at the ready and taking up space in your living quarters. Not being practical for your use case is one thing, calling it a "waste of time" is another.
I think cachyos is a bit more than an easy installer like endeavours and arco, it has actual system level modifications to the kernel that makes huge improvements in speed,
yea even though i know nothing about kernel stuff, or the technical things, i learned something new about linux, because i didn't know there was so many "grub" options i didn't know what these scheduler things were. till i found this distro, i don't really mess with it but out the box i haven't had any issues. got a 2060 super nvidia gpu works great.
I tried it when it first came out on my old PC and couldn't get it up and running. Tried it again recently after seeing some videos talking about it and with a new PC and had different problems with the same result couldn't get it up and running. Ah well.
Try different USB sticks. Some suck being used as a Live USB.
@@ominoussage Actually the problem was never the USB stick, mostly it would crash during install. When I did finally get it to install, that opened up a whole new set of problems. I came to the conclusion it just wasn't worth the time/effort when there are so many other distros that I didn't have any issues with. But thanks for the tip! 🙂
@@jeffrodrequez oh i thought it wasn't booting at all since you said you "couldn't get it up and running" but okay.
I also tried CachyOS but it doesn't seem to detect my touchpad properly (in the live session, at least. It's recognizing my touchpad as if it's a mouse. There's no touchpad settings either). Idk if it'll fix itself if I install it but I'm hesitant now.
I'm using Bluefin and it's been alright.
1. Try PikaOS, it's very similar to cachyos with cachy kernel, but debian based (with fresh packages channel)
2. maybe it's a ram/ssd issue? it's also known that cachyos have problems with some intel cpus, but works really good on amd cpus.
3. go with any distro and just compile cachy kernel for your setup, or install already compiled cachy kernel from sources :)
Switched to CachyOS recently after I broke Fedora. Could've just reinstalled, or gone with OpenSUSE for v3 packages, but wanted to try Arch. It boots faster, launches apps faster, and isn't much harder to use. Biggest issue I've had is manual Firewall configuration. It "just worked" on Fedora. Love the AUR. Lots of niche programs don't provide .rpm files but AUR is seemingly universal. Didn't see a massive raw performance boost, but it feels snappier, but that could just be placebo from a fresh install. Also now using KDE over GNOME. All the same defaults as Fedora (Wayland, BTRFS, Systemd). While I do miss Gnome Software and being able to browse an app store it isn't needed over terminal.
You could just use octopi that is preinstalled for both repo and aur packages.
@BeastViper007 I mostly used gnome software to see preview images and whatnot.
brooo, I broke my Fedora the same way yesterday (wrongly pushed my files to the git repo) and made a switch to cachyos, it's a really smooth experience and slightly better performance than fedora (btw i had fedora with Cachy-bore kernel, ananicy-cpp and etc, but even with that Cachyos feels more better). i also was using Fedora sway spin and now im on cachyos sway spin, i thinked about switching to Kde, but i think De's consumes too much ram(?). i have 7.1gb of ram because of integrated gpu and only 700mb usage on idle on Swaywm
I ran it for a while and didn't see any performance uplift and just went back to base arch.
Ditto. I’ve tried CachyOS and I wasn’t convinced. I did noticed the UI on KDE plasma was snappy - but I wondered if these were UI tweaks. Went back to Arch btw.
What is the benefit of arch over this? Flexing?
me too - tried it for a couple of months then back to Arch. Although I think the cachy kernel manager is good if you want to tiinker around.
@@BeastViper007 There's no "flex" in using Arch. archinstall makes it pretty straightforward. Want flex? Do Linux from Scratch.
@@BeastViper007Arch isn't even a flex anymore, it's not hard and it's become mainstream. Not that either is a bad thing, but using Arch is no longer a flex of knowledge.
I like what they are trying to do, some of their default configs though are odd to me (like rt patches that rarely help desktop use, setting swappiness to 100,etc).
why are those settings an issue?
@@fooboomoo A couple of examples, rt patches can actually hurt desktop performance in many cases. Many people think that rt means fast... it just means that task interuptions have low latency, but if you let any process be interrupted quickly and often, it hurts performance... especially if those are desktop related threads for example. Swappiness to 100 doesn't make a lot of sense.. Why would you encourage a higher likelihood to swap to disk than is default? Sure, it'll make your free ram numbers high, but it will slow pulling cached memory pages back to active memory way down. Better to let the kernel do its thing and keep stuff in memory until that memory is needed.
4:08 That person should have given more info what issues the person had. I have CachyOS and so far I dont have issues nor did I do specifc configs except editing a few config files and /etc/fstab to enable RW for my drives for Steam gaming.
Cachyos so good
Probably one of the best btrfs systems out the box after opensuse. Also offers a no faff zfs.
Does it have rollback from boot menu like openSUSE or Fedora atomic flavors?
@@flow5718nope. But you can install snapper, btrfs-grub and set up the config and subvolumes yourself. There are good guides out there
@@flow5718 You can install snapper from that hello gui and it comes with BTRFS assistant to enable at boot options I believe
I wanna try this and PikaOS. Both look slick
I can definitely recommend Pica. I'm running it on my desktop, and it is a significant improvement over base debian stable for gaming. Pikman is a really nice package manager, and having access to things like hyprland with the reliability of debian is pretty cool.
Is this good for coding?
Pretty much any Linux distro is good for programming
Wait! With Hyperland!!? Seriously!? I don't know I can get out on Fedora yet but I dying to try it even for my VM.
5:18 context is important!
your wrong neofetch is dead, fish is the default shell and fastfetch is what they use.
Kinda wish they offered trinity desktop.
>stability
>gnome 47
pick one
you can't have stability with bleeding edge packages
ah yes you can
@@Mattscreative based Mattscreative, GNOME 47 has been super stable for me, and GNOME usually is the most stable DE on Linux
CachyOS has been superb for me, I have dabbled in linux but never found anything as stable and simple as cachyOS, plays all my windows games at better FPS than windows itself.
Ed Sheeran has fallen off pretty hard
dirty 🤣
Cachyos pushes the SSD to it's limit
Thats what I like
How does it do that?
@A4orce84 No idea, maybe some kernel customization
What do you mean by that
@@Andrei-x5u I got better speed when using cachy os compared to arch.
Some things happened and the file system crashed a week ago. I am not sure who is to blame for that (some bug or me doing crazy things). I am not going to use cachy os most likely. I will stick to mainline arch.
i use fedora Linux btw cause i need Secure Boot support and Nvidia Driver with secure boot and that i want recent package!
You were tired, get some rest, bro.
6:49 Because you know what you're doing. A lot of distros have the (noble if premature) goal of being ready for everyone, to be a welcome home for Window ex-pats. They make these tools with the hope that someone who doesn't know what options there are in Linux for things like media viewing, or browser options are, &c.
It's a good GOAL, but Linux, as much as I love it, is NOT for the masses - Not yet, at least.
If I use Catchy OS do I get to say "I use arch btw"
I'm an endeavour user, and I think we do get to say that we use Arch, but we don't get to say we have installed it
Why do you want to join the "I use arch btw" loser cult?
CachyOS is different, fast and stable i love it
been using cashyos 4 months as everyday driver and for games its so easy with my hard ware endev is just a pain (spit on windows)
What I don't get is why other distributions don't at least offer more CPU-optimized releases. I understand that obviously compiling for the lowest common denominator simplifies things, ensures compatibility and reduces confusion, but would it really hurt, say, Debian if they introduced a new arch with special modern CPU optimizations? I mean, it's not like they don't already support a bunch of architectures already. The biggest problem would probably be manpower; all the additional effort needed for a whole new architecture.
But wait, Debian has already hinted that 32-bit PC support may be reaching the end. In the wake of its demise, why not introduce a new AMD64 arch compiled with optimizations and enhancements for newer instruction sets?
I know I was really using Debian as an example here, but the same applies for every major distribution with the community support to make it happen. Fedora, openSUSE, etc. The thing is, most other distros already *have* dropped 32-bit systems long ago, and they're still mostly targeting the bare minimum of hardware with no optimized builds as an option.
One of the first Linux distributions I ran as my primary system was called Yoper. Long gone now, it was an i686 distro that was built with extra CPU optimizations at the time.
Your comment about the Package Installer being a waste of dev time is 100% wrong, and you're FAR from the first "Linux TH-camr" to demonstrate that inherent and pervasive tone-deafness to what is ACTUALLY innovating and improving the desktop computing space. What you said warranted this comment. Perhaps you SHOULD have said "I'm not sure I find this particularly interesting or notable from my use-case personally, but of course your mileage may vary" if you only meant it as a personal perspective.
You've said "you're wrong" without explaining why.
use cachyos for next comparison pls, it worth it
I agree that all these "choices" are completely redundant.. Why do we need cashyOS and endeavor and garuda? Just why?? They are all doing the same thing at slightly different levels of completion. I wish linux would stop doing this-- but it's not going to happen. lol. Just use Garuda.. and be done with it........ I liked it, but I couldn't use it because I had issues with my old screen and finding the right resolution, etc... and that made my mouse scroll too fast.. But If you have a 1080p screen or higher, you shouldn't have these issues. (I went to Nobara instead; it has built in sliders for overscan and also the scroll wheel speed- so it has been awesome)
I prefer CACHY!!!
CPU scheduling on linux in general is known to be better than on windows, so the performance difference you've seen might not even matter at all.
An example from me would be that Baldur's Gate 3, a fairly new, heavy game with terrible Vulkan support runs better for me on linux than on windows, because my bottleneck was the CPU and not the GPU. If the reverse was the case, I would be certain to see a drop in performance on linux considering what kind of game this is.
CachyOS I have found to have the best Gnome experience out there. All my favourite Gnome extensions are available and work as they should. I also use two popular distros built primarily around the Gnome desktop, but Cachy is the standout. If I had a critism it would be with the Terminal, which is not to my taste. My first Arch/CachyOS experience is a positive one.
I completely disagree.. The software manger/installers are a HUGE leap forward for the distros that are doing it. If you put that installer in front of a complete noob.. he can get things installed.. If you put the terminal in front of a noob.. he is literally stuck and must now go down a rabbit hole for hours, just to learn how to get his distro setup.
Except when update broke my coding project with installing their weird zlib version, it's ok OS
I'm currently using that OS. Installed the cosmic desktop but currently using gnome for the time being. I'm using the XFS file system
I have CachyOS Handheld Edition on my Steam Deck and I prefer it over SteamOS.
Use nobara
honestly, this just seems like another manjaro/steamos to me. optimizations are cool, but having it done for you is no better than doing it yourself, and if you do optimizations yourself then you don't have to worry about the maintainers quitting. i've got the zen kernel, i've got all the libraries i need, i'm not worried about more optimizations than i've done myself. may be good for a laptop though, i can see how an installer would be nicer on a laptop!
in fact if they get rid of systemd i'll be very interested. i'm not a big fan of systemd despite the stuff it makes easier, since it has to be optimized itself just to improve boot times. i have my eye on gentoo for a future laptop for that reason!
You should try pikaOS 4. Its wayyy better than cachy.
it's not better, they are just the same, with the one exception - cachyos is arch and pikaos is debian (with fresh packages). pikaos uses cachy kernel and cachyos too, they are just literally the same distros, but with different package managers
While I can understand your initial hesitance, I hope you have got passed your ignorance and arrogance, dude. Seriously.
Mx is better and Manjaro too