As a current LS460 owner, I'd recommend staying away from the LS600 for 3 big reasons. 1) It has a CVT transmission (3x as many moving parts, unreliable, 3x the cost to rebuild vs automatic). The 8 speed automatic Aisin Warner in the LS460 is superior IMO. 2) Hybrid battery costs $5000 to replace. 3) The hybrid AWD model requires you to pull the engine to change out the 02 sensors (literally zero room to get them out any other way). LS460 is VASTLY less expensive to maintain!
This is all very true and I agree but I just meant from a performance stand point the LS 600 is AMAZING huge achievement by Lexus but I still recommend a warranty with either a 600 or a 460
I'm glad you mentioned these, b/c I have thought occasionally about picking up one. Just the backseat function alone is tempting for long trips, but thanks for the heads up. Not worth it.
@@borntodeal 127k. Outside of normal wear and tear / maintenance the LS460 is hard on Control Arms. Orginal Brake Actuator's have a tendency to fail, but factory new ones have been revised and I've not seen people complain about them going bad. The Mark Levingson headunit sound system has a mechanical hard drive that when it goes bad, is VERY overpriced new from Lexus ($1100 for a $30 hdd). Sound Amp if it starts clipping or goes out can be repaired aftermarket for about $300. A few nagging problems but overall a very sound car when properly maintained. As for my personal LS460, I've replaced all 8 control arms, front and rear struts, radiator, water pump, spark plugs, all fluids, front and rear brakes, and 02 sensors. Most of this was routine maintenance. I do not regret at all my decision to buy a LS460 (aside from RWD being less than practical for frigid Minnesota winters).
I lost my 2010 LS460L that I had bought in 2018💔💔💔💔 I lost my job and couldn’t afford to keep it anymore😭😭😭😭 and it was through watching your honest reviews that I finally took the leap of faith and went for my dream car...I have no regrets whatsoever about that car, I LOVED every minute of driving it. When I’m back on my feet again,I’m gonna go for LS460 still,don’t like the new one at all...Keep up your good work bro,much love and respect,from SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦✌🏿😉
How about an update? Were you able to get back on your feet and find another LS? I hope things have improved for you. Getting a dream car and then having the rug pulled out from under you is a terrible feeling.
Let's keep it that way, there is a guy I know with a Mercedes SLK 150k miles, 0 issues. Another Guy I know with relatively brand new Corolla had his transmission go out in just a few months. A lot of this car stuff does come down to luck
As soon as I got mine the damn brake actuator went out. Was able to find a brand new OEM actuator from Lexus of Orland in Illinois for less than a thousand and a local mechanic to put it in for like 200 bucks. Apparently the labor isn't as bad as lexus says. No calibration or anything. You just need a techstream to drain the brake fluid. Also upgraded the brakes themselves. I heard someone say that the actuator failures can be attributed to the OEM rotors warping over time. Other than that, the car is amazing and a joy to drive.
Have had my ISF for little over 2 years now, looking to make a commute more comfortable while also being able to fit passengers comfortably, and the F would become the weekend car. Your reviews helped me a lot, right now it’s between an Infiniti M37 and an LS460 (08-12)
Nice thats a beautiful car you have their Im sure the Infiniti.would be better to drive but the LS will be the most comfortable car a person can buy haha as well as the largest. Just be sure to get a warranty with either and you should be good. Thanks again my friend
I bought my '12 LS 460 last Sunday, and mine is one owner, all original, but it has 19s. Maybe they increased the size for the last year of that generation. It rides like a dream, coming from an IS250 that was rear-ended and totaled. I thought I'd miss having a sports sedan and driving like I stole it, but so far I only miss the thought of the IS, when I'm in the LS, I drive like the mature middle-aged man that I am. It's weird how the car instantly changed the way I drive, the way I want to drive. I have not once even felt tempted to experience the full might of the 380 hp, 367 lbs-ft that the powerplant has to offer.
The brake actuator is not known to be super common fault. I did have a control arm failure and even the dealer cost was not that bad (although it was covered by warranty). The shock to me was a coolant leak in the valley. Still, the repair was under 2000. For a high end luxury car that’s not bad. And the regular maintenance is just not bad compared to the Germans. Compare these to a 7 series after 5 years and you will see a huge difference.
trade-off: on center deadness means reduced tire wear due to alignment sensitivity. when you firm up the steering, you'll need alignments and tires more often. either turn the wheel a little more or spend more on maintenence.
The steering is due to the difference in the steering box between the 2 cars . The 600hl has the VGRS . While your base model had a normal EPS. Variable Gear-Ratio Steering (VGRS) automatically adjusts the front-wheel steering angle and response. At low speeds, VGRS reduces the number of turns, lock to lock, for easier maneuvering. At high speeds, the steering gear ratio is optimized for increased high-speed responsiveness and control. VGRS comes together when you option the LS with air suspension only . So they where available for all 4th gen LS.
Thank you so much for this video! On Sunday I bought a 2008 ls600hl. Your past reviews on the LS helped me so much. I've never been so happy with a car. My commute to work has improved drastically and I no longer find myself experiencing any road rage. I enjoy and appreciate every mile driven in this car. I welcome traffic now 😂
Wow massive massive congrats my friend that is a hell of a ride you picked up I'm very jealous haha. It really does change the everyday commute I completely agree enjoy!
Mega congrats! I agree a Lexus just makes you a calmer driver, the isolation they provide as a testament to my ES350. Then occasionally I like to give it the beans haha!
I respect your opinion but I have to disagree. Lexus is one of the reliable car brands on the market and has been for many years. I've personally owned a LS 400, LS 430 and 2 LS 460's. All with minor repairs and with excellent resale values. If you can afford their flagship vehicles please understand that small repairs to unnecessary gadgets can and eventually go bad.
Great vid! I've observed parts and service in America are ridiculously expensive. I got a brake actuator (used) with a 1yr warranty for $600. Cost $80 labour (installation plus bleeding and calibration) for my '07 GS430. And I got a transmission for it (used as well, had done about 64k kms) for $700. Straight from Japan to Kenya.
@@gergelyturcsanyi6743 The brake light (parking brake light) would stay on after I start the car. Then blink occasionally. My battery had died while I was doing some body work so I didn't start the car for like a week. Next time I fired it up the brake pedal would either be really hard or would go all the way to the floor with little to no actual braking, which was really strange bc I have 4 pot brembos at the front. So it has 6 pipes that lead into/out of it (the actuator). 1 of them wasn't getting any brake fluid through it. So the rear driver side wheel had no brakes, and this was the case with any wheel we interchanged that pipe lead to. Then the EBD warning came on (Electronic Brakeforce Distribution). Took me about a month to source one.
Love this new review. About to buy one and even though the videos are similar there’s new stuff in each. Glad you mentioned the warranty. Good stuff man.
I picked up an 07 Base with 97K at the end of October last year. So base model that it only has the ML and Comfort package, but an incredible service history at Lexus every 5k miles without fail. Brake actuator was replaced right before I bought it. The starter, water pump, and a couple of the control arms within the last few years as well along with many other small things. I just checked the vin of every car I looked at and waited about 6 months for the right one, completely comfortable forgoing a warranty. I work on my own vehicles but it’s still a nice piece of mind to not have to think about the actuator. 15k miles in and I couldn’t be happier with it, except that it could be quicker which is exactly what I’m working on now.
@@bigmouth3511 it wasn’t particularly easy with zero aftermarket support so I kinda had to pave the way but I don’t regret doing it. Unfortunately didn’t get too far cause of a guy texting and driving. I have a few videos on my channel of the car if you’re interested.
I dont own a ls460 but a ls430 I Will need to test drive one to see the difference between them two.you review is spot on as always keep up the good work
That's awesome absolutely love the LS 430 an epic machine and the smoothest engine I have ever experienced. If I had to do it over again I think I might go LS430 but I kind of want them all lol. Thanks again for stopping by and showing support
Good to know even high end cars from reliable brands can still have issues. Too bad that part was so expensive to fix. It's understandable though when the repairs start to become too high compared to the actual value of the car.
Yea a Toyota or Lexus won't leave you stranded on the side of the road by any means but they will need to have parts replaced eventually and Maintenance of course. I think that $2,000 warranty would have been perfect and I would have been able to keep the car for longer then I did.
@@MeynMotorGroup The one time I tried to use a warranty that I paid 2000 dollars for, the woman on the phone was very rude and said that the rear hatch struts wouldn't be covered. I looked up the warranty and it covered parts of things. Since it was a dealer warranty, my perception after reading the details of the warranty was I would get charged by the dealer approx. what a private mechanic would charge, despite the salesperson pretending it would be similar to the factory warranty (the loan officer sells the warranty). I suggest you save your warranty money in the bank, maintain your car, and use the warranty savings. You will be far ahead after a lifetime of car buying. I have heard previously that 1/2 the cost of the precertified warranty goes directly to the salesperson.
So I have heard of these nightmares happening to people and it is super unfortunate and this is why many think warranties are a scam. I've had a modified Acura TSX and the warranty covered like $6k in repairs so It worked out for me every dealer and company is different
Does anyone know what the main difference between 09 ls 460 and sport and non sport? When I purchased the vehicle I did not say sport anywhere. The only way I found out was when I purchased brake rotors. My mechanic told me the rotors I had purchased where to small for my vehicle.
@collectivelight It just shows how effective the internet brings people together, because some brands were thought to be flawless. However, with the internet, you're able to connect with people throughout the world. Which enables you to have a more sincere reality, to all brands. No matter how much they're praised.
Haha I know what you mean I kind of want every LS but can't lol. I do love the 430 tho one of the stand out generations of LS for me by far the smoothest engine I've experienced my other most favorite model is the 2013-2017 LS those are very nice as well but expensive
This the 4th video I've watched today on this channel, trying to learn all I can about the older Lexus. Don't know much about vehicles and the car lingo leaves me at a lost but the video is still helpful. Tomorrow I'll be going to look at a 2009 Lexus not sure of anything more. I heard him mention about the maintenance on some of these older models make the vehicle not such a good idea to purchase. A 2009 would be 15 years old and I understand cars last 15-20 years of course I know that also depends on how well it's taken care of, so as a car to go back and forth to work it may be okay. Well, let me continue with my research 😅
Have a 2007 LS 460 L with 190,000 miles. Got my brake actuator fixed at a dealership in Northern CA FOR $2,500. Replaced my arm control and bushings with aftermarket parts, new brake pads and rotors on all 4 tires. Starts up and keeps driving. Great car, but yes this car has some $ to take care of sometimes. Reliable car though. I'm never selling mine.
Or the governor which stops you at 120. Biggest issues are motor mounts and over priced axles which will need to be replaced around 100 K. No power steering issues like previous LS
What did Lexus fix for you? I am buying LS460L and thinking of buying extended warrantee for a peace of mind. I am worried about the brake actuator and arm controls. How did you get Lexus to fix it for you? TIA
@@Juantu0425 that's great to know. Mine is 2007 has 46k miles. In that case I'll skip the extended warranty it is $2200 for two years/24k miles or whichever comes first. Thanks for you prompt response. 👍
nowadays the 2007 and 8 models in my country always get transmission issues and need to be replaced if you are buying one get 2010 and up you wont regret it and the break actuator on mine was replaced like the abs it was like 800 dollars cuz in the uae its cheap mines an air suspension converted so not as smooth so if you cant maintain the air suspension get the non air suspension options
Does the 2012 lS 460 have a good reliability record ? I’ve been looking at these lately ! Is there any advantage in getting the last year model of that generation vs the 2009 for example? Did they fix issues or bugs found in the previous years ? And do they come with DVD entertainment system ? Thanks for the info
I have a 12 LS, (I am 2nd owner). It's been the best car I have ever owned. Just keep up the maintenance and nothing breaks! 180,000 miles so far, and still drives like new.
I found brake actuators online that car ID says will fit the car. Is there some reason that only Lexus dealers can put them on? They run about $1,200. I don't know anything about the labor.
I like your reviews bud! I just bought a 2007 LS 460L silver just like the one you had with 215k miles for $6900 and the car is beautiful and well taken care of with a dealer maintenance record all the way up to 180k miles however I'm afraid the brake actuator needs to be replace since I'm getting random brake warnings on my dash from time to time. I found the actuator at the dealer for $1300 and I have a shop who can do it relatively cheap and that's the only thing wrong with this car. I have fallen in love with how it drives and how well made those cars are for a 2007 it drives and has better technology than most new cars on the market today. My question to you is thinking back would you have replaced the actuator knowing that you would've have a very reliable car after that? for what I pay for I factor in some money to fix minor issues I just didn't think it was gonna be something so expensive.
Greetings from Texas I just replaced my actuator 2 days Ago on my 08 the part along was 2,000$ you can only get it from Lexus and Lexus is the only one who can program it are someone who has paid Thousands for there programming and there annual fees it's was a 2,900$ Fix..
Good Morning the Actuator is the Break Control Module when it Goes Bad the Breaks will still Work but ABS system among other Break Functions will not work as designed, it's one of the Most Expensive Non Major Parts you will ever replace but Overall it is a GREAT CAR with a strong History of Reliability behind it, I Own 5 Lexus Vehicles I believe they are the way to Good if you want a Great Reliable car at a reasonable price. If well taken care of it will last well Past 300,000 miles..
do you have any recommendations for an extended warranty? you should make a video on warranties i grew up hearing from so many people say that its just a scams!
Slowly but surely im gonna catch up on these videos, great job once again bro 😀, ive always wondered why automakers have on center deadness in their cars. Like I know why but it's like, why, you know?,
I got a recall notice about 6months ago to do my door panels dashboard glovebox an center console they will let me know when the parts come in I have a 2010 ls460
You can buy an Extended factory warranty in virtually any configuration of #of years and #of miles you want. The cost is the cost it's not negotiable unless you get an after market one. But then you might run into trouble when it comes time to use it assuming they're still in business.
btw this guy keeps saying "brake actuator". he should be saying a professional term like "Master Cylinder" or "A.B.S. pump" (a.k.a. A.B.S actuator /A.B.S. valve body/A.B.S. module/ A.B.S. controller/ etc.) (both of which are "brake actuators") someone is going to ask you which one you're worried about and all you can take from this video is " Hmm, i guess the $3000.00 one".
Do the 2013+ LS460's have the same problems? I am only worried about the suspension bushings and air struts going, but not sure of the brake problems with the facelift cars.
I have a 2001 LS and I loovveee it! 230,000 miles still running fantastic. Interested in buying a 2007 or 2008. What’s something I should look out for? Considering you said the brake actuator how did you know it was going bad? Would it pop up on the dash or would I take it to a dealer and they can tell me? Ps I’ve been binge watching your videos on Lexus’s lol
Hi. Thank You for your hard work. Can you tell me : Does the 2006 - 2012 Lexus LS 460 Offer Massaging Seats ? Thanks. ANYBODY KNOWLEDGEABLE Please Reply Soon.
Can you still have get a warrranty for a LS 460 2007? I think mine is starting showing me some indication with sometimes a message on the dash VSC .....
This is exactly what I experienced but it went away although I was still worried so I sold it. So you can still buy a warranty even after you've purchased your car. If you have a hendrick dealer near you ask them about the Hendrick Autoguard warranty. Make sure it covers everything like electronics as well and make sure its pro rated that way you can cancel and get some of the money back if you don't need the warranty or if you sell the car early
I’m fairly sure the bad brake actuators were only an issue with the earlier 460s the 2013-2017 I believe don’t have that issue. My GS460 had the same brake actuator and it goes out on them but luckily it never did with mine
So many people in the world they just mock what they can't have. I know I'll never have a Bugatti but I won't just sit in the comfort of my toilet mocking it for no reason lol
Unfortunately its not something you can test for but you can pay for a pre paid inspection and maybe a mechanic can find out but my best advice is just get a warranty if that dealer offers it
Yes, the Hybrid has a CVT transmission which I would avoid like the plague (3x as many moving parts, unreliable, 3x the cost to rebuild vs automatic)! The 8 speed Aisin Warner transmission in the 460 is superior IMO.
When does the brake accouter go bad on this car I own the same car with 174k miles how do I know if that has been fixed on the car or not please let me know
We are paying 760 a month on a 19 gmc terrain denali and one thing is definitely not worth it and having hard time to pay it and also looking to surrender it for a 08 Lexus LS460 with 137k miles from a used car dealership
I think the first thing you have to learn is how to buy vehicles properly. This is the situation most people find themselves in the U.S. in particular, a very high payment on a below average vehicle. I would suggest doing research at the leasehackr forums and watch my latest buyer's guide videos on various cars. People literally drive 6 figure foreign cars for 760 a month some even get paid to drive cars by lease hacking certain pickup trucks like Tacomas. Again, check out the leasehackr forum before making your next car purchase. It's very sad to see this with so many people.
I have a 2008 LS460L. I've owned countless cars. This is the first one with automatic folding mirrors. If one of them or both of them stop working, it'll be like every other car I've ever owned, so I won't lose sleep over it or spend a lot of money trying to fix it.
I’ve had an IS250 for over 5 years with 140k+ w no brake actuator issues, haven’t seen or heard anything about them either on the forums or owners group. We also have an IS300, no talks of brake actuators there either
Hi Kevin, I have been in the market for Lexus LS 460 2017 but coud not find the right match is right price. I am wondering if I should looke for LS 500 2018? You recommended me fore to consoder buying LS 500 2021 model, but the price of 2021 LS 500 is out of ny budget. Is there hige difference in between LS 500 2018 vs 2021. Thanks.
It might Ive heard parts were expensive on the LS430 as well a subscriber said that a door actuator cost him $1,000 so I would just get a warranty with any of these models
I just bought a 2010 LS460 with 35K miles after watching your other reviews. It drives great! what are the symptoms of a bad brake actuator? I did not purchase a 3rd party warranty as I was under the impression that they were scams ? Do you think it's something I should look into? Thanks for the vids congrats on the LC
Massive congrats and wow that is awesome to get one with such low miles. Yea many people think its a scam I was one of them but now I know its mandatory with any Luxury car. So you can still buy a warranty even after you've purchased your car. If you have a hendrick dealer near you ask them about the Hendrick Autoguard warranty. Make sure it covers everything like electronics as well and make sure its pro rated that way you can cancel and get some of the money back if you don't need the warranty or if you sell the car early
You'll hear a light clicking noise if you ligjtly tap the brake. Mine has been doing for about a year but still hasn't failed. As far as replacing it goes, you can do it your self. Chilton DIY has the complete guide on fixing everything on the car. However, you will have to purchase the lexus techstream software for the brake bleeding process. You can get it on ebay for 35 bucks. Or pay lexus 65 dollars for a 2 day subscription for it. I replaced my brake actuator many years ago with a used one from ebay and it is still working.
@@MeynMotorGroup no problem. The ls 460 is an amazing car. The nicest one i have ever owned actually. I know the brake issue scares a lot of people away from this car. It scared me away for a while, but it turned out to be the best car I've ever owned. If you normally work on your cars, the brake issue is no problem. However, if you have to take it to a mechanic, it is a bit pricey. But all in all, the brake actuator and the suspension parts are the only thing that i have ever had to replace. I got the car at 50,000 miles and now it has over 200,000 and still going strong.
@@MeynMotorGroup and the Chilton DIY is only $30 a year for full access the the repair manual. It literally take you through all the repair processes step by step. It even tell you how to navigate the techstream software for the brake bleeding process and actuator relearn process. Love your videos man. Keep up the good work. Thank you
Too funny seeing comments about Lexus problems when most people would also be looking at German cars, which are notorious for bad build quality and parts failing all the time.
I have the opportunity to buy a 2007 lexus ls 460 with only 5500km (3417 miles) on the clock for 15600 Australian dollars (US $ 11000) would that be a good deal?
I'm on the market for a very cheap car. To my surprise, I see old Lexus with 120 to 190 k miles for low prices. Would that be a dump option for someone looking for a first cheap car? I just saw a 2007 LS 460 155k miles for $6k. Is that a normal price? Probably messed up? Or worth a try? Thanks
At the point of dumping my GL450 and going with the LS460. Could you recommend or give tips on finding a legit warranty company. Hear so many horror stories.
Yea I know it's like 20k for a clean LS like how I described but with all the issues of a non maintained LS, you will probably put like $5k-$10k in repairs anyways so it's all about the same
Video I shot a longgggg time ago. The Ls 600hl has long been sold but they have an IS 350 if you like. Been wanting to put this video out for some time now and here it is. I hope this video in conjunction with the buyers guide video will help you guys in your search for a Lexus LS link here: th-cam.com/video/RoF_KNoVLlI/w-d-xo.html Again, please let me know your thoughts and experiences with the LS. Thank you for watching
Get in the car put into drive and just tap the accelerator to move forward a bit and then quickly get on the brakes. If the car wobbles a lot after coming to a full stop then the control arms are most likely shot
Exactly. And if you do you due diligence, you can find a brand new replacement actuator assembly for less than a thousand dollars like I did. They range from around 900 to 1200 bucks. Ordered my replacement actuator assembly from Lexus of Orland in Illinois. It was shipped to me in less than a week. Also found a certified mechanic to change out the part for like 300 bucks. I don't understand people who are so quick to run to the dealer when mechanical issues arise. The costs are always going to be inflated. If people put forth the effort and do their research, you don't have to spend thousands of dollars to maintain this car. From the Mark Levinson amp, to the control arms. There's cheaper solutions that don't involve compromising on quality.
The tricky part is finding a mechanic that has the Lexus subscription to be able to program the actuator to your specific vehicle. Lexus charges about $4000 per year for that subscription which is why not a lot of local shops have it and people end up being forced to go pay that ridiculous bill to a dealer to fix it
@@thehealthagent A shame you you haven't elaborated on how it's a better motor. Check the forums and so many 460 owners have gone back to the 430 as it is supposed to be much more reliable, better built and quieter. They're both great cars and I'm looking at buying a 460 simply because it's newer and looks much sharper.
@@stan4097 hi stan, yeah we both are right. The engine in the 460 is better, but overall the 430 has less problems. The 460 before 2013 has more problems, like airsuspension and breake actuator. After 2013 it seema to be fixed! So in conclusion a 2013 onwards 460 is better than a 430.
Was too poor to afford one so because I never owned it, I didn't bother researching the reliability of it but even if it is good or bad, a warranty is a must
Exhaust Sports Auto looking at a 2008 ls460 with 120k miles impeccable service history. Dealer asking 13k. Test drove it and drives like a boat, you were right about everything. Going to see if they can get to 9k.
Ooh idk if they will get down to 9k on a 13k car they don't inflate the prices that much and due to demand some rich guy will be ready to buy it with cash. A better thing to ask for is for 13k would you throw in a 3-4 year bumper to bumper warranty that includes electronics, and every little component of the car
Exhaust Sports Auto they lied to you and I would keep spreading that lie, an independent shop can perform that repair or anyone with the right knowledge
Exhaust Sports Auto I worked for lexus for 6 years a technician and they have the same style brake actuators as the prius and other hybrid vehicles and you do need a scanner to bleed the brakes and calibrate the internal pressure sensors but even that can be bypassed if you know what your doing by using the relays and unplugging the battery
I bought an 07 Lexus LS460 last year, good car, but had I KNOWN about the constant control arm replacement, the iffy trans shifts, brake actuator problem, and the melting dash (Lexus replaced everything 🙏), I would have probably chose something else. Just my $.02...🙄 🙄
yea I understand but fortunately Lexus replaced it all which is great. As long as you're covered that's the most important thing and one of the big reasons why I would not get this car without that warranty. Thank you again for sharing this important information as an owner!
I meant dynamically it can't be disputed that objectively the AWD system distributes power in a superior manner leading to more predictable higher quality handling experience especially for a car that doesn't have a good chassis to begin with. Besides the primary message of this video is to GET A WARRANTY so you can be covered if you're worried about maintenance you probably wouldn't be in the market for an LS anyway.
@@MeynMotorGroup I would get a warranty regardless. Maintenance is not the issue, it's the extra weight, lower horse power and the unnecessary included maintenance not to mention AWD eats tires like there's no tomorrow on the LS. You have fun with the AWD, I prefer my cars RWD
No point people in this matrix will never break out of the delusion of buying clapped out cars at 15% interest and will continue to pay for exorbitant repairs.
As a current LS460 owner, I'd recommend staying away from the LS600 for 3 big reasons. 1) It has a CVT transmission (3x as many moving parts, unreliable, 3x the cost to rebuild vs automatic). The 8 speed automatic Aisin Warner in the LS460 is superior IMO. 2) Hybrid battery costs $5000 to replace. 3) The hybrid AWD model requires you to pull the engine to change out the 02 sensors (literally zero room to get them out any other way). LS460 is VASTLY less expensive to maintain!
This is all very true and I agree but I just meant from a performance stand point the LS 600 is AMAZING huge achievement by Lexus but I still recommend a warranty with either a 600 or a 460
I'm glad you mentioned these, b/c I have thought occasionally about picking up one. Just the backseat function alone is tempting for long trips, but thanks for the heads up. Not worth it.
Hi, I'm curious how many miles do you have on your LS460 and which repair issues did you run into?
Why a warranty?
@@borntodeal 127k. Outside of normal wear and tear / maintenance the LS460 is hard on Control Arms. Orginal Brake Actuator's have a tendency to fail, but factory new ones have been revised and I've not seen people complain about them going bad. The Mark Levingson headunit sound system has a mechanical hard drive that when it goes bad, is VERY overpriced new from Lexus ($1100 for a $30 hdd). Sound Amp if it starts clipping or goes out can be repaired aftermarket for about $300. A few nagging problems but overall a very sound car when properly maintained. As for my personal LS460, I've replaced all 8 control arms, front and rear struts, radiator, water pump, spark plugs, all fluids, front and rear brakes, and 02 sensors. Most of this was routine maintenance. I do not regret at all my decision to buy a LS460 (aside from RWD being less than practical for frigid Minnesota winters).
I lost my 2010 LS460L that I had bought in 2018💔💔💔💔 I lost my job and couldn’t afford to keep it anymore😭😭😭😭 and it was through watching your honest reviews that I finally took the leap of faith and went for my dream car...I have no regrets whatsoever about that car, I LOVED every minute of driving it.
When I’m back on my feet again,I’m gonna go for LS460 still,don’t like the new one at all...Keep up your good work bro,much love and respect,from SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦✌🏿😉
Hade bro, hope you get back on your feet soon
Hope you get back on your feet fast and strong man!!!
Cool thing is you can buy another one and you will!!!
How about an update? Were you able to get back on your feet and find another LS? I hope things have improved for you. Getting a dream car and then having the rug pulled out from under you is a terrible feeling.
They have Lexus in South Africa?
Im tired of car payments, high MSRP etc so I started looking at this generation ls. Good review, thanks.
I bought the 2009 ls 460 sport and drivin for one year so far the issues he talked about nonexistent on mine maybe just lucky
Let's keep it that way, there is a guy I know with a Mercedes SLK 150k miles, 0 issues. Another Guy I know with relatively brand new Corolla had his transmission go out in just a few months. A lot of this car stuff does come down to luck
How about now ?
As soon as I got mine the damn brake actuator went out. Was able to find a brand new OEM actuator from Lexus of Orland in Illinois for less than a thousand and a local mechanic to put it in for like 200 bucks. Apparently the labor isn't as bad as lexus says. No calibration or anything. You just need a techstream to drain the brake fluid. Also upgraded the brakes themselves. I heard someone say that the actuator failures can be attributed to the OEM rotors warping over time. Other than that, the car is amazing and a joy to drive.
what years are yours? might need calibration on certain year.
@@trilingualkid 08. Haven't had a single problem after I got the brakes fixed.
How many miles were on it when the actuator went out?
@@bbsal4031 154k. But the replacement actuator was an updated version.
@@bbsal4031 154k
Have had my ISF for little over 2 years now, looking to make a commute more comfortable while also being able to fit passengers comfortably, and the F would become the weekend car. Your reviews helped me a lot, right now it’s between an Infiniti M37 and an LS460 (08-12)
Nice thats a beautiful car you have their Im sure the Infiniti.would be better to drive but the LS will be the most comfortable car a person can buy haha as well as the largest. Just be sure to get a warranty with either and you should be good. Thanks again my friend
There’s no comparison of the two, the Lexus is a 100 times better in every category. Infiniti is junk.
@@tylersutton1048 lol Nissan alternators fucken blow shit caught fire lol
I bought my '12 LS 460 last Sunday, and mine is one owner, all original, but it has 19s. Maybe they increased the size for the last year of that generation. It rides like a dream, coming from an IS250 that was rear-ended and totaled. I thought I'd miss having a sports sedan and driving like I stole it, but so far I only miss the thought of the IS, when I'm in the LS, I drive like the mature middle-aged man that I am. It's weird how the car instantly changed the way I drive, the way I want to drive. I have not once even felt tempted to experience the full might of the 380 hp, 367 lbs-ft that the powerplant has to offer.
The brake actuator is not known to be super common fault. I did have a control arm failure and even the dealer cost was not that bad (although it was covered by warranty). The shock to me was a coolant leak in the valley. Still, the repair was under 2000. For a high end luxury car that’s not bad. And the regular maintenance is just not bad compared to the Germans. Compare these to a 7 series after 5 years and you will see a huge difference.
trade-off: on center deadness means reduced tire wear due to alignment sensitivity. when you firm up the steering, you'll need alignments and tires more often. either turn the wheel a little more or spend more on maintenence.
The steering is due to the difference in the steering box between the 2 cars . The 600hl has the VGRS . While your base model had a normal EPS.
Variable Gear-Ratio Steering
(VGRS) automatically adjusts the front-wheel steering angle and response. At low speeds, VGRS reduces the number of turns, lock to lock, for easier maneuvering. At high speeds, the steering gear ratio is optimized for increased high-speed responsiveness and control.
VGRS comes together when you option the LS with air suspension only .
So they where available for all 4th gen LS.
Yep me and my broke azz little base model LS lol. Solid piece of info to point out tho
Thank you so much for this video! On Sunday I bought a 2008 ls600hl. Your past reviews on the LS helped me so much. I've never been so happy with a car. My commute to work has improved drastically and I no longer find myself experiencing any road rage. I enjoy and appreciate every mile driven in this car. I welcome traffic now 😂
Wow massive massive congrats my friend that is a hell of a ride you picked up I'm very jealous haha. It really does change the everyday commute I completely agree enjoy!
Mega congrats! I agree a Lexus just makes you a calmer driver, the isolation they provide as a testament to my ES350. Then occasionally I like to give it the beans haha!
@@benila3992 precisely haha
I respect your opinion but I have to disagree. Lexus is one of the reliable car brands on the market and has been for many years. I've personally owned a LS 400, LS 430 and 2 LS 460's. All with minor repairs and with excellent resale values. If you can afford their flagship vehicles please understand that small repairs to unnecessary gadgets can and eventually go bad.
What years are your LS's?
@@eternalafterlyfe
2008 LS 460L
2013 LS 460L AWD
2018 LS 500 AWD
Just brought my wife a
2020 Lexus ES ES hybrid ultra luxury edition
Great vid! I've observed parts and service in America are ridiculously expensive. I got a brake actuator (used) with a 1yr warranty for $600. Cost $80 labour (installation plus bleeding and calibration) for my '07 GS430. And I got a transmission for it (used as well, had done about 64k kms) for $700. Straight from Japan to Kenya.
That's awesome! And congrats on owning such a rare car
@@MeynMotorGroup thanks! It's a shame TH-cam replies doesn't support photos and videos 😂
What were the symptoms of that brake actuator failure?
@@gergelyturcsanyi6743 The brake light (parking brake light) would stay on after I start the car. Then blink occasionally. My battery had died while I was doing some body work so I didn't start the car for like a week. Next time I fired it up the brake pedal would either be really hard or would go all the way to the floor with little to no actual braking, which was really strange bc I have 4 pot brembos at the front. So it has 6 pipes that lead into/out of it (the actuator). 1 of them wasn't getting any brake fluid through it. So the rear driver side wheel had no brakes, and this was the case with any wheel we interchanged that pipe lead to. Then the EBD warning came on (Electronic Brakeforce Distribution). Took me about a month to source one.
@@ArnieGold Oh, thanks. Sorry to hear that, Mate. Then mine still looks fine.
Love this new review. About to buy one and even though the videos are similar there’s new stuff in each. Glad you mentioned the warranty. Good stuff man.
Thanks and yea it took me awhile of ownership and test drives to compile all this information together just glad I could help
I picked up an 07 Base with 97K at the end of October last year. So base model that it only has the ML and Comfort package, but an incredible service history at Lexus every 5k miles without fail. Brake actuator was replaced right before I bought it. The starter, water pump, and a couple of the control arms within the last few years as well along with many other small things. I just checked the vin of every car I looked at and waited about 6 months for the right one, completely comfortable forgoing a warranty. I work on my own vehicles but it’s still a nice piece of mind to not have to think about the actuator. 15k miles in and I couldn’t be happier with it, except that it could be quicker which is exactly what I’m working on now.
Nice! Sounds like a great pick up for you very happy to hear that you love the car it really is awesome. Enjoy my friend
@@bigmouth3511 it wasn’t particularly easy with zero aftermarket support so I kinda had to pave the way but I don’t regret doing it. Unfortunately didn’t get too far cause of a guy texting and driving. I have a few videos on my channel of the car if you’re interested.
I dont own a ls460 but a ls430 I Will need to test drive one to see the difference between them two.you review is spot on as always keep up the good work
That's awesome absolutely love the LS 430 an epic machine and the smoothest engine I have ever experienced. If I had to do it over again I think I might go LS430 but I kind of want them all lol. Thanks again for stopping by and showing support
Exhaust Sports Auto Lol facts bro
@@MeynMotorGroup do you think the 430 is better than the 460?
I love love my 460 but I've read the 430 is probably better built so I would definitely keep that if I was you 👍
Good to know even high end cars from reliable brands can still have issues. Too bad that part was so expensive to fix. It's understandable though when the repairs start to become too high compared to the actual value of the car.
Yea a Toyota or Lexus won't leave you stranded on the side of the road by any means but they will need to have parts replaced eventually and Maintenance of course. I think that $2,000 warranty would have been perfect and I would have been able to keep the car for longer then I did.
@@MeynMotorGroup The one time I tried to use a warranty that I paid 2000 dollars for, the woman on the phone was very rude and said that the rear hatch struts wouldn't be covered. I looked up the warranty and it covered parts of things. Since it was a dealer warranty, my perception after reading the details of the warranty was I would get charged by the dealer approx. what a private mechanic would charge, despite the salesperson pretending it would be similar to the factory warranty (the loan officer sells the warranty). I suggest you save your warranty money in the bank, maintain your car, and use the warranty savings. You will be far ahead after a lifetime of car buying. I have heard previously that 1/2 the cost of the precertified warranty goes directly to the salesperson.
So I have heard of these nightmares happening to people and it is super unfortunate and this is why many think warranties are a scam.
I've had a modified Acura TSX and the warranty covered like $6k in repairs so It worked out for me every dealer and company is different
Does anyone know what the main difference between 09 ls 460 and sport and non sport? When I purchased the vehicle I did not say sport anywhere. The only way I found out was when I purchased brake rotors. My mechanic told me the rotors I had purchased where to small for my vehicle.
@collectivelight
It just shows how effective the internet brings people together, because some brands were thought to be flawless. However, with the internet, you're able to connect with people throughout the world. Which enables you to have a more sincere reality, to all brands. No matter how much they're praised.
I have an 05 LS430 with 89k miles on it and was thinking about moving on to 460. Like women I can’t have both I have to choose one lol
Haha I know what you mean I kind of want every LS but can't lol. I do love the 430 tho one of the stand out generations of LS for me by far the smoothest engine I've experienced my other most favorite model is the 2013-2017 LS those are very nice as well but expensive
You can have more than one woman. Keep the LS430, sell it not ever.
Dr. Kaufmann Facts I’m never parting with mines 👍🏾👍🏾
@@theodoreyoung8777 Absolutely, good sir, depart not from your ways.
Dr. Kaufmann Thanx bro
This the 4th video I've watched today on this channel, trying to learn all I can about the older Lexus. Don't know much about vehicles and the car lingo leaves me at a lost but the video is still helpful. Tomorrow I'll be going to look at a 2009 Lexus not sure of anything more. I heard him mention about the maintenance on some of these older models make the vehicle not such a good idea to purchase. A 2009 would be 15 years old and I understand cars last 15-20 years of course I know that also depends on how well it's taken care of, so as a car to go back and forth to work it may be okay. Well, let me continue with my research 😅
Buy a 2001-2005 Lexus LS430
*Since the car I love the MOST, is the older model TOYTOA CROWN (which we can't get here)...*
*This seems to be the closest option.*
Have a 2007 LS 460 L with 190,000 miles. Got my brake actuator fixed at a dealership in Northern CA FOR $2,500.
Replaced my arm control and bushings with aftermarket parts, new brake pads and rotors on all 4 tires. Starts up and keeps driving. Great car, but yes this car has some $ to take care of sometimes. Reliable car though. I'm never selling mine.
yeah, just account additional cash for that common issues when buying it or make sure it was done recently by previous owner ;
What miles did you replace the brake actuator
@@RahzAlGhul 168,000.... Pushing close to 196,000 and she still runs smooth.
I have a 460L and 430L... the only issues I've found is the drive axle... the car is amazing though 460 have 140k and my 430 have 240k...
430L??
@@sulaimansyed5137 that was a typo... LS430
What year LS460 is the best to buy in your opinion?
2008
@@MONKMODEJ why 2008?
@@johnathan1737 The best ones is when built from 10.2007 to 06.2008. Or you go facelift from 2011. Many issues are factory fixed in production change.
2012
Thanks for educating the public 👍👍👍
What I always wondered was why there are numerous videos of LS460 sport exhausts but almost none with the LS600...
Or the governor which stops you at 120. Biggest issues are motor mounts and over priced axles which will need to be replaced around 100 K. No power steering issues like previous LS
They fixed mine through Lexus for free with Manufacturer warranty uo to 150k miles!! Look into it
Nice good to know thanks for sharing!
What did Lexus fix for you? I am buying LS460L and thinking of buying extended warrantee for a peace of mind. I am worried about the brake actuator and arm controls. How did you get Lexus to fix it for you? TIA
@@vseapho they fixed the actuators for the break system would of been 3k they said its covered up to 150k miles
@@Juantu0425 that's great to know. Mine is 2007 has 46k miles. In that case I'll skip the extended warranty it is $2200 for two years/24k miles or whichever comes first. Thanks for you prompt response. 👍
An LC500 V8 convertible in that red/tan spec would be absolutely phenomenal
nowadays the 2007 and 8 models in my country always get transmission issues and need to be replaced if you are buying one get 2010 and up you wont regret it and the break actuator on mine was replaced like the abs it was like 800 dollars cuz in the uae its cheap mines an air suspension converted so not as smooth so if you cant maintain the air suspension get the non air suspension options
Another great and informative review. Keep it up👊👊👊👏👏👏👑👑👑👑👑👑.
Appreciate that my friend!
Didn't think you could get a warranty for that age of car
Hi Kevin....
Do you think I should avoid buying a AWD if I am not using in snow...looking for a 2010 -2012 LS
Does the 2012 lS 460 have a good reliability record ? I’ve been looking at these lately ! Is there any advantage in getting the last year model of that generation vs the 2009 for example? Did they fix issues or bugs found in the previous years ? And do they come with DVD entertainment system ? Thanks for the info
I have a 12 LS, (I am 2nd owner). It's been the best car I have ever owned. Just keep up the maintenance and nothing breaks! 180,000 miles so far, and still drives like new.
I found brake actuators online that car ID says will fit the car. Is there some reason that only Lexus dealers can put them on? They run about $1,200. I don't know anything about the labor.
I like your reviews bud! I just bought a 2007 LS 460L silver just like the one you had with 215k miles for $6900 and the car is beautiful and well taken care of with a dealer maintenance record all the way up to 180k miles however I'm afraid the brake actuator needs to be replace since I'm getting random brake warnings on my dash from time to time. I found the actuator at the dealer for $1300 and I have a shop who can do it relatively cheap and that's the only thing wrong with this car. I have fallen in love with how it drives and how well made those cars are for a 2007 it drives and has better technology than most new cars on the market today. My question to you is thinking back would you have replaced the actuator knowing that you would've have a very reliable car after that? for what I pay for I factor in some money to fix minor issues I just didn't think it was gonna be something so expensive.
Greetings from Texas I just replaced my actuator 2 days Ago on my 08 the part along was 2,000$ you can only get it from Lexus and Lexus is the only one who can program it are someone who has paid Thousands for there programming and there annual fees it's was a 2,900$ Fix..
@@brandonbarnes8773 i stay in Dallas and I was looking to buy one of these ls460s what’s wrong with break actuator ?
Good Morning the Actuator is the Break Control Module when it Goes Bad the Breaks will still Work but ABS system among other Break Functions will not work as designed, it's one of the Most Expensive Non Major Parts you will ever replace but Overall it is a GREAT CAR with a strong History of Reliability behind it, I Own 5 Lexus Vehicles I believe they are the way to Good if you want a Great Reliable car at a reasonable price. If well taken care of it will last well Past 300,000 miles..
do you have any recommendations for an extended warranty? you should make a video on warranties i grew up hearing from so many people say that its just a scams!
You do NOT have to go to a dealer for the brake actuator repair. Any good shop can replace and reprogram for far less than a dealership.
Read the Club Lexus Forums on it
Read the Club Lexus Forums on it
Slowly but surely im gonna catch up on these videos, great job once again bro 😀, ive always wondered why automakers have on center deadness in their cars. Like I know why but it's like, why, you know?,
Haha thanks bro and yea I know 😆
Lol wait why do they?
You should also talk about the rotting of the dashboard and door panels. All of mine have been replaced by Lexus last year on my 2009 460.
Jeez really? Do you live up north?
I got a recall notice about 6months ago to do my door panels dashboard glovebox an center console they will let me know when the parts come in I have a 2010 ls460
My parts took a little over a year to come in.
@@miket8324 waiting on mine
You can buy an Extended factory warranty in virtually any configuration of #of years and #of miles you want. The cost is the cost it's not negotiable unless you get an after market one. But then you might run into trouble when it comes time to use it assuming they're still in business.
btw this guy keeps saying "brake actuator". he should be saying a professional term like "Master Cylinder" or "A.B.S. pump" (a.k.a. A.B.S actuator /A.B.S. valve body/A.B.S. module/ A.B.S. controller/ etc.) (both of which are "brake actuators") someone is going to ask you which one you're worried about and all you can take from this video is " Hmm, i guess the $3000.00 one".
Do the 2013+ LS460's have the same problems? I am only worried about the suspension bushings and air struts going, but not sure of the brake problems with the facelift cars.
Unfortunately they do still have the same problems like brake actuator but Lexus air suspension does last for a long time
Thanx bro for another Lexus review u know how we do 😎
Yes sir!
Exhaust Sports Auto 👊🏾👍🏾
I have a 2001 LS and I loovveee it! 230,000 miles still running fantastic. Interested in buying a 2007 or 2008. What’s something I should look out for? Considering you said the brake actuator how did you know it was going bad? Would it pop up on the dash or would I take it to a dealer and they can tell me?
Ps I’ve been binge watching your videos on Lexus’s lol
i refuse to buy any car until i have enough for an lc500... which could be a long while lol
Haha nah you will have it soon sir the pre owned value has been dropping rapidly so certified pre ownes prices may even drop into the 50s soon
@Michael, dont wait too much .life is unpredictable
Quick question boss what’s a fair price in you’re books for 07 ls460 120k miles condition ? Clean title
I gust baught one of those with 122k, Clean title for $10,000
The market has sucked up all the F SPORT in the LS460. I think people who like the LS don’t like the idea of the new v6 turbo.
How many miles when the brake actuator malfunctioned?thanks 👍
Hi.
Thank You for your hard work.
Can you tell me :
Does the 2006 - 2012 Lexus LS 460 Offer Massaging Seats ?
Thanks.
ANYBODY KNOWLEDGEABLE Please Reply Soon.
Please awd and rwd model,which one is more better
I was hoping the title matched the content
Can you still have get a warrranty for a LS 460 2007? I think mine is starting showing me some indication with sometimes a message on the dash VSC .....
This is exactly what I experienced but it went away although I was still worried so I sold it.
So you can still buy a warranty even after you've purchased your car. If you have a hendrick dealer near you ask them about the Hendrick Autoguard warranty. Make sure it covers everything like electronics as well and make sure its pro rated that way you can cancel and get some of the money back if you don't need the warranty or if you sell the car early
What is your recommendation for the warranty? In other viewers want to chime in?
The hendrick autoguard warranty is pretty great
I’m fairly sure the bad brake actuators were only an issue with the earlier 460s the 2013-2017 I believe don’t have that issue. My GS460 had the same brake actuator and it goes out on them but luckily it never did with mine
As per my mechanic. Its the same ABS module on 2007-2017 with just the same failure
"Nonsense Michelin eco tire..."
Hahaha! Perfect!
BAHAHAHA "dont like the big grill because you cant afford the grill" omg cant stop laughing
So many people in the world they just mock what they can't have. I know I'll never have a Bugatti but I won't just sit in the comfort of my toilet mocking it for no reason lol
Take it easy and light bro
So do you think if it is wise to buy a 2007 model with 130k on it? Is there anyway to text the brake actuator before purchasing the car?
Unfortunately its not something you can test for but you can pay for a pre paid inspection and maybe a mechanic can find out but my best advice is just get a warranty if that dealer offers it
Other than the brake actuator and control arm issues for the 600h L, any other issues to be concerned about? How reliable is the hybrid drive system?
Yes, the Hybrid has a CVT transmission which I would avoid like the plague (3x as many moving parts, unreliable, 3x the cost to rebuild vs automatic)! The 8 speed Aisin Warner transmission in the 460 is superior IMO.
When does the brake accouter go bad on this car I own the same car with 174k miles how do I know if that has been fixed on the car or not please let me know
Keep up the good work
Thank you my friend!
The brake actuator is the reason for me also
How do I get a warranty for the brake actuator ?
We are paying 760 a month on a 19 gmc terrain denali and one thing is definitely not worth it and having hard time to pay it and also looking to surrender it for a 08 Lexus LS460 with 137k miles from a used car dealership
I think the first thing you have to learn is how to buy vehicles properly. This is the situation most people find themselves in the U.S. in particular, a very high payment on a below average vehicle.
I would suggest doing research at the leasehackr forums and watch my latest buyer's guide videos on various cars.
People literally drive 6 figure foreign cars for 760 a month some even get paid to drive cars by lease hacking certain pickup trucks like Tacomas.
Again, check out the leasehackr forum before making your next car purchase. It's very sad to see this with so many people.
Have you ever took a Mercedes to the dealership and got two of the air shocks replaced? Wow
have you ever taken a LS460 to the dealership and had the air suspension replaced? add another wow
@@Alex-rj6sv please refresh my mind. I left that comment about nine months ago.
LS460 air suspension is $12k+ at dealer
In your opinion what is the best year to buy 07-12 460 ? And 460l or no l
Just get the ES most won’t be able to afford the maintenance/parts of an LS
Are you talking about "used" car warranty?
Me personally never after market on this LS. Other than suspension parts since they wear out quicker. But engine parts..
I have a 2008 ls 460. The driver mirror won’t fold 😭
Oh that sucks might be an easy fix tho
I have a 2008 LS460L. I've owned countless cars. This is the first one with automatic folding mirrors. If one of them or both of them stop working, it'll be like every other car I've ever owned, so I won't lose sleep over it or spend a lot of money trying to fix it.
Does the IS and GS from the same era have brake actuator issues?
I'm not sure sir, might want to dig in the forums for that answer but very good question
I’ve had an IS250 for over 5 years with 140k+ w no brake actuator issues, haven’t seen or heard anything about them either on the forums or owners group. We also have an IS300, no talks of brake actuators there either
Only the V8 models have the issue.
Brake calipers is an issue of the IS second generation. They can get stuck with time. But the rest of the IS is almost unbreakable
TexasMyke makes sense.
Hi Kevin, I have been in the market for Lexus LS 460 2017 but coud not find the right match is right price. I am wondering if I should looke for LS 500 2018? You recommended me fore to consoder buying LS 500 2021 model, but the price of 2021 LS 500 is out of ny budget. Is there hige difference in between LS 500 2018 vs 2021. Thanks.
No just get an es or RX save the trouble & money
@@MeynMotorGroup you mean ES 350
@@SyedAtif-pz2tk or RX 350 either will be fine
@@MeynMotorGroup ok.Thx
which year ES or RX would u recommend. I have ES 350 2017 and likes to upgrade.
Does the brake actuator problem apply to LS430?
It might Ive heard parts were expensive on the LS430 as well a subscriber said that a door actuator cost him $1,000 so I would just get a warranty with any of these models
How do you reprogram the message broad after you change over to a regular strut?
I just bought a 2010 LS460 with 35K miles after watching your other reviews. It drives great! what are the symptoms of a bad brake actuator? I did not purchase a 3rd party warranty as I was under the impression that they were scams ? Do you think it's something I should look into? Thanks for the vids congrats on the LC
Massive congrats and wow that is awesome to get one with such low miles. Yea many people think its a scam I was one of them but now I know its mandatory with any Luxury car.
So you can still buy a warranty even after you've purchased your car. If you have a hendrick dealer near you ask them about the Hendrick Autoguard warranty. Make sure it covers everything like electronics as well and make sure its pro rated that way you can cancel and get some of the money back if you don't need the warranty or if you sell the car early
You'll hear a light clicking noise if you ligjtly tap the brake. Mine has been doing for about a year but still hasn't failed. As far as replacing it goes, you can do it your self. Chilton DIY has the complete guide on fixing everything on the car. However, you will have to purchase the lexus techstream software for the brake bleeding process. You can get it on ebay for 35 bucks. Or pay lexus 65 dollars for a 2 day subscription for it. I replaced my brake actuator many years ago with a used one from ebay and it is still working.
Wow now that was the most quality info I have gotten on the topic thank you for sharing that you are a massive help to the community
@@MeynMotorGroup no problem. The ls 460 is an amazing car. The nicest one i have ever owned actually. I know the brake issue scares a lot of people away from this car. It scared me away for a while, but it turned out to be the best car I've ever owned. If you normally work on your cars, the brake issue is no problem. However, if you have to take it to a mechanic, it is a bit pricey. But all in all, the brake actuator and the suspension parts are the only thing that i have ever had to replace. I got the car at 50,000 miles and now it has over 200,000 and still going strong.
@@MeynMotorGroup and the Chilton DIY is only $30 a year for full access the the repair manual. It literally take you through all the repair processes step by step. It even tell you how to navigate the techstream software for the brake bleeding process and actuator relearn process. Love your videos man. Keep up the good work. Thank you
Too funny seeing comments about Lexus problems when most people would also be looking at German cars, which are notorious for bad build quality and parts failing all the time.
2002 LS 430 with 50k miles for 8500 a good deal?
Where do you buy a warranty if you buy this from a private sale?
I have the opportunity to buy a 2007 lexus ls 460 with only 5500km (3417 miles) on the clock for 15600 Australian dollars (US $ 11000) would that be a good deal?
Hope you bought it, that’s a steal.
I'm on the market for a very cheap car. To my surprise, I see old Lexus with 120 to 190 k miles for low prices. Would that be a dump option for someone looking for a first cheap car? I just saw a 2007 LS 460 155k miles for $6k. Is that a normal price? Probably messed up? Or worth a try? Thanks
You will get burned in repairs and suspension problems not a blessing as a first car buyer
@@MeynMotorGroup Thanks what level of cost are we talking about?
@@wilsonline90 5k for an actuator. Best thing you can do is go on NHTSA and see the problems every used vehicle will have
@@MeynMotorGroup thanks. Yeah, 5 k would be astronomical to me.
Do you know if the LS 430 have the same problems with the brake actuator, thank you
Not sure about the 430 might want to research in the forums
In the market for one See there’s a LS600 at a high volume used car dealership near me.
Grab it with a warranty if you like it
I got one..... worth every penny !!
do the arms eventually go out?
At the point of dumping my GL450 and going with the LS460. Could you recommend or give tips on finding a legit warranty company. Hear so many horror stories.
Yea buy from a Lexus dealership and get the cleanest one you can that's been serviced properly
@@MeynMotorGroup We’re not talking affordable anymore. Lol. I will look into it.
Yea I know it's like 20k for a clean LS like how I described but with all the issues of a non maintained LS, you will probably put like $5k-$10k in repairs anyways so it's all about the same
Video I shot a longgggg time ago. The Ls 600hl has long been sold but they have an IS 350 if you like. Been wanting to put this video out for some time now and here it is. I hope this video in conjunction with the buyers guide video will help you guys in your search for a Lexus LS link here: th-cam.com/video/RoF_KNoVLlI/w-d-xo.html
Again, please let me know your thoughts and experiences with the LS. Thank you for watching
U already know bro I love my 2006 Lexus LS430 and never getting rid of her 😎
Heck yes bro damn I want one as a channel car so bad....one day lol
Exhaust Sports Auto And I want yours to floss in bro lol 😎
So sick. I was about to walk away from a deal today. Gonna try to make it happen tomorrow. 2012 LS460 102k AWD 13,500
@@Reactivrehab yo...get it
Dude loss his LS 460 card, when he admitted to doing donuts in it. Doing donuts in an LS 460, is like doing sprints in a tuxedo. Wrong!
Carnal minds sowing to iniquity reap corruption
Should I get a 2009 ls 460 for 9k with 129k miles
Beautiful car
How do you know if the control arms are starting to go out?
Get in the car put into drive and just tap the accelerator to move forward a bit and then quickly get on the brakes. If the car wobbles a lot after coming to a full stop then the control arms are most likely shot
The actuator isn’t that expensive if you know how to replace it yourself.
Exactly. And if you do you due diligence, you can find a brand new replacement actuator assembly for less than a thousand dollars like I did. They range from around 900 to 1200 bucks. Ordered my replacement actuator assembly from Lexus of Orland in Illinois. It was shipped to me in less than a week. Also found a certified mechanic to change out the part for like 300 bucks. I don't understand people who are so quick to run to the dealer when mechanical issues arise. The costs are always going to be inflated. If people put forth the effort and do their research, you don't have to spend thousands of dollars to maintain this car. From the Mark Levinson amp, to the control arms. There's cheaper solutions that don't involve compromising on quality.
@@Overqualified1 100% agree
The tricky part is finding a mechanic that has the Lexus subscription to be able to program the actuator to your specific vehicle. Lexus charges about $4000 per year for that subscription which is why not a lot of local shops have it and people end up being forced to go pay that ridiculous bill to a dealer to fix it
Funny we own the same cars and with the same color. I had a silver ls460L.
Very awesome I see you balling with the extended wheel base haha
Should I buy a 430 or a 460?
460 better motor
@@thehealthagent A shame you you haven't elaborated on how it's a better motor. Check the forums and so many 460 owners have gone back to the 430 as it is supposed to be much more reliable, better built and quieter. They're both great cars and I'm looking at buying a 460 simply because it's newer and looks much sharper.
@@stan4097 hi stan, yeah we both are right. The engine in the 460 is better, but overall the 430 has less problems. The 460 before 2013 has more problems, like airsuspension and breake actuator. After 2013 it seema to be fixed! So in conclusion a 2013 onwards 460 is better than a 430.
@@thehealthagent I guess I shall have to wait a bit longer then as post 2013s are out of my reach at the mo!
460 AWD F-Sport
What about the 13/14 460?
Was too poor to afford one so because I never owned it, I didn't bother researching the reliability of it but even if it is good or bad, a warranty is a must
I hear these aren’t as reliable as the ls430
This car with v8 should have over 400hp
How do you get that warranty? On an older car like that?
From a dealership so stop buying from private owners
Exhaust Sports Auto looking at a 2008 ls460 with 120k miles impeccable service history. Dealer asking 13k. Test drove it and drives like a boat, you were right about everything. Going to see if they can get to 9k.
Ooh idk if they will get down to 9k on a 13k car they don't inflate the prices that much and due to demand some rich guy will be ready to buy it with cash.
A better thing to ask for is for 13k would you throw in a 3-4 year bumper to bumper warranty that includes electronics, and every little component of the car
Exhaust Sports Auto okay didn’t even know that was a possibility with that much mileage. Cool. Thanks.
What dealership is this a lexus dealer? Hendrick dealer?
You do not have to take it to the dealership to replace the brake actuator, who told you that lie????
Club lexus forum
Exhaust Sports Auto they lied to you and I would keep spreading that lie, an independent shop can perform that repair or anyone with the right knowledge
Well they didn't lie to me specifically it was like 20 owners just talking about it lol you can read it for yourself im not a member if club lexus
Exhaust Sports Auto I worked for lexus for 6 years a technician and they have the same style brake actuators as the prius and other hybrid vehicles and you do need a scanner to bleed the brakes and calibrate the internal pressure sensors but even that can be bypassed if you know what your doing by using the relays and unplugging the battery
Damn well I def don't know what I'm doing I never work on cars lol but good to know It can be done no idea why those owners were saying that then
I bought an 07 Lexus LS460 last year, good car, but had I KNOWN about the constant control arm replacement, the iffy trans shifts, brake actuator problem, and the melting dash (Lexus replaced everything 🙏), I would have probably chose something else. Just my $.02...🙄 🙄
yea I understand but fortunately Lexus replaced it all which is great. As long as you're covered that's the most important thing and one of the big reasons why I would not get this car without that warranty. Thank you again for sharing this important information as an owner!
AWD? No thank you. Heavier, slower, more to maintain. RWD FTW.
I meant dynamically it can't be disputed that objectively the AWD system distributes power in a superior manner leading to more predictable higher quality handling experience especially for a car that doesn't have a good chassis to begin with. Besides the primary message of this video is to GET A WARRANTY so you can be covered if you're worried about maintenance you probably wouldn't be in the market for an LS anyway.
I agree, the added tire cost and added front differential maintenance. Is not worth it just to have all wheel drive.
Warranty
@@MeynMotorGroup I would get a warranty regardless. Maintenance is not the issue, it's the extra weight, lower horse power and the unnecessary included maintenance not to mention AWD eats tires like there's no tomorrow on the LS. You have fun with the AWD, I prefer my cars RWD
And for people that live in places that have snow on the ground 6 months of the year? You ever try getting through 3 feet of snow with RWD? Dummy.
this actuator crap is only for hybrids, right?;
Brake actuator every car has one
Bros been trying to sell us a warranty for a while now
No point people in this matrix will never break out of the delusion of buying clapped out cars at 15% interest and will continue to pay for exorbitant repairs.