*LS430 TIMING BELT INTERVAL IS EVERY 90,000 MILES OR EVERY 108 MONTHS. Just wanted to correct that from the video* *Also please look at this link, if you are going to buy this car, get a warranty* www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-4th-gen-2007-2017/909613-brake-actuator-repair-cost-why-pay-3000-a.html Original review of my LS: th-cam.com/video/993XGumGSRA/w-d-xo.html Hope this guide was useful to anyone in the market for this generation LS. Let me know down below if you are and if you have any questions, I will try to answer them. Car reviews should be returning soon, if you would like to know and see which vehicles I will be working on, consider following me on Instagram @exhaustsports. Thank you
Late to game, got mine a year ago. Thank you so much, my 08 has 470k. Bought it to transport my wife to cancer treatments. Greatest investment EVER. Lost her, will never let this car go. Thank you for your knowledge and passion. Thank you thank you.
Get the 2011 to 2013 ( I prefer) definitely get the history report. Check the suspension make no leaks and DO NOT GET AIR SUSPENSION unless recently replaced. ( I doubt it’ll be) I have two LS one 11 and a 13 love them both. I can send pictures if you like to see
MERCEDESBENZS600 S500 not as smooth.. but still smooth. I’ve notice the difference. If I purchase one I’d make sure a Warrantee comes with it. It’s a 5K to 8K service for air suspension part and service.
Working at a Lexus dealer there’s a good amount of 460 drivers with well over 200k. One guy has a 2010 600hL with 353k. You can look at everything and say the car has 60k miles.
@@iamryan4130 this is hilarious, I actually just worked with him yesterday and got to drive his car around, he’s at 372,XXX miles, the hybrid system is still all original, all we did for him was an oil change and rear diff service. The battery is still holding up well and the V8 engine up front doesn’t knock or burn any oil, and even with that many miles the 600hL still flies
@@iamryan4130 in my opinion I think it’s because they do a better job making smaller engines, their inline 6 is indestructible. The v8s have too much tech and too much plastic so something failing is a matter of when. They design vehicles with the intent of components failing. Lexus makes good v8 engines, great ones but they tend to be less reliable than their v6’s and 4cyls.
We bought an 07' LS460 last year with 92k. The original owner did a great job of having all Recalls and TSBs taken care of as well as maintaining the interior and exterior finishes. The only thing that my mechanic could find wrong with the car was that it was a little down on horsepower and throttle response. My mechanic cleaned the air intake system and the mass airflow meter for $80 and the engine now runs very strong with snappy throttle response. Other than that, we haven't had to repair anything, just oil and filter changes. Excellent car. Super comfortable seats and ride. Accelerates fast when you want it to.
Great job. I drive a 07 L trim with 185k miles. I love it. Update. My car now has 208k miles on it. It still drives like a dream. Toyota makes great vehicles.
I can confirm that the valve spring recall is redeemable anytime. Did mine on 7 years old pre-owned LS imported to Europe from US and local dealer did the job no questions asked.
I have an appointment today to test drive a 2010 base model LS, one owner corporate car with 100,000 miles and complete dealer service history and I found this video REALLY helpful. I appreciate your effort in putting this out. Thanks!
A quick note, there were issues with squishy upper dashboard and upper front door and armrest materials. Many 2007-2009 had this replaced under warranties or paid hefty amounts to get their dashboards and front door cards replaced
Mark Levinson sound system is amazing, once you have it you can not go back to generic sound system in a vehicle....I had a 2010 LS460 with 135K miles that i took in routinely for standard oil changes at dealer and had no problems with the car and just traded in and got excellent trade value
I worked at a Lexus Dealership and the Ls was one of my favorite cars to drive. Those things 💩 and get. The quality of the interior is amazing. The wood trim is real wood. Not plastic. The auto parallel park system is pretty cool too
Just got a 2007 LS 460L and couldn't be happier, air suspension isn't too bad once you look into it, easy to upgrade to aftermarket air or use a controller to adjust ride height with data systems, even has the link adjustment where you can lower it on the factory air settings as well, and it's easy to convert over to a traditional four-loader system, I like the fact that I have the option to stay air or easily convert
The brake actuator issue may be related to H2O contamination of the brake fluid and corrosion within the actuator if the fluid is not flushed regularly. Brake fluid will attract H2O over time. Regular brake fluid flushes will minimize H2O within the fluid. Many owners and many mechanics ignore this maintenance.
Thanks! This was mainly a buyers guide but I did do an actual road review and full feature tour on my channel if you’re interested definitely a great car!
I've been watching your series about owning 2007 Lexus LS 460 and loving them. You have done a great service for buyers like me who are scared of costs of ownership of a used LS 460. Thank you ! You can put all these videos in a playlist so they are easier to find in one place.
12:30, re sunshield, get some 760gsm white artist board and tracing paper. Trace the windscreen outline. Cut the tracing paper in half, top to bottom, slightly larger than half the window size (make some size adjustments, if needed, before cutting by checking the area around the windscreen inside the car). Transfer this to the board, cut two pieces. You will then have two 'halves' for the inside of the windscreen: slide the one in from the left, and the other from the right, they overlap in the middle, flip down the sun visors. Try to park facing south. The heat and UV are kept out the car, off the dash, console and front seats. When not in use, store behind the front seats, or in the trunk if carrying passengers. I've made one for all my cars since 1989.
Review is ON POINT I’ve had control arms and water pump replaced on my 2007 LS460....both under warranty ... My brake actuator recently failed and since I love the car I’m getting it repaired although it’s pricey and isn’t covered under the extended enhancement warranty given by Lexus....I also had to have my trunk actuator replaced which wasn’t expensive at all....
I'm a new owner of a 2007 LS460L w 165K miles. It's my first highendcar and l've spent the first year ironing kinks-- lm out $12.5K. The quality of family road trips is unmatched! I want be able to boost 300+ miles too. I love your conversational, confident manner.
Just purchased a 2011 460 L, in the Granite color with 60k miles. Just wanted to give you a shoutout, as thanks to your videos on these cars, i was able to make a well informed purchase. Short story I'm loving this car, glad to be part of the LS crew now.
My brother recently picked up a 07 460 and it's a pretty awesome car! Paid 14k for one with 41000 miles. Never been in an accident, one owner, all recorded regular maintenance! I prefer my is350, by the comfy LS has grown on me!
Wow congrats and incredible price was it at a dealership? And yes the IS350 is an incredible sports sedan as well you guys know what’s up when it comes to cars. Thanks so much for stopping by
@@MeynMotorGroup yes it was at a dealership, was priced quite below other ones for sale, so he jumped at the chance! Thanks for making awesome content!
Wow I am looking at one and it's a private seller says he has all service records 2007 with the luxury package . 94k miles he's asking 14 for it . By the pics it looks clean , considering going to look at it in person though
skers, actually $14,000 is quite a bit above Kelly blue book and you definitely want to look at the service history from the dealership or better pass if you don’ have it. I was offered $6250 for my LS460L recently in close to mint condition for a trade in at Ontario Lexus with 120,000 mi. And body in 100% excellent condition that was a mailer to buy a a new LS 👎🏻
I had a 2010 for 8 years. I purchased in 2013 with 20k and sold it in 2021 with 107k. It was the perfect car! I traded up for 2018 LS500. The only issue I had was the suspension. Make sure that its been replaced before purchasing.
I have owned Lexus since 1995, l sold my last 2012, it was the greatest of all of the ones that I owned. I now own a IS 250 AWD, twin turbo v6 built engine. Great car!
I paid 6000.00 straight cash for 2008, black on black. I was told by seller , an honest person in my opinion the car will need the dreaded actuator and that is reason to get rid of the car. Bought it anyway. I am a tree shade wrench and will replace the actuator myself and gravity bleed it for couple of days if it need be. Yes it will be couple of gallons of brake fluid but so is life. The one thing to watch while bleeding is not to introduce any moisture into system, kinda pita but easy does it, And then take it to the dealer for programming. This ought to save me thousands. Some have had dificulty getting the thing licensed so they can drive it to the garage even, to replace the actuator. There is tempoary fix looking back at you when facing the dash, did I say dash? Get creative..... And yes it is temporary, right! An no need to mess with programing either, just common sense and a screewdriver.. The one concern I noticed while pulling the wheels is the Jacking Points on the body, they leave much to be desired for. Especially in rust belt areas, where I am at. They suffer from sloppy application of jacks and easy fold to curbside or from.I will clean the area of paint to the bare metal and weld small reinforcement into them, repaint and have a beer. Just got me one of the Vevor air jacks and that thing is a hoot, well worth the money (it was 150.00 cnd. That jack beats the factory scissor one by far. Other than that the car is definitely worth the money I spent. Only one thing I would add, the factory 18" wheels on this car are really heavy. Will go aftermarket with something more jazzy and light. Seen some nice gold ones, jikes! Ps: Kevin's review are top notch! I like his no nonsense and clear relaxed pace of presentation, thank You Kevin!
@@hitone4319thanks for saying all that man. some lexus owners are out of this world, keeping the problems to themselves as a secret and not telling anyone 😂
I just bought a used 2007 with 123K miles, very clean just two owners, FL car, clean CARFAX no accident, and one owner was a dealer. I did what you said and signed up at Lexus to see the vehicle maintenance history, and it was manintenance with Lexus until 122K. I am so happy. I took it to my mechanic and he said only the wipers needed to be replaced, and oil change. He was impressed with the price I paid, and said it was ready to drive to California. Only other thing which is minor is the roof trim peel. I am thinking about taking it off and getting it painted. I might even do it myself. Bar none this is the best car I have ever owned and I bought several cars new. Great review dude!
Hey congrats on your new purchase that’s awesome my friend. Glad the Lexus drivers tip was useful and it was smart to get it inspected. I’ve also owned a lot of new cars and driven new cars but man this thing is something special. Enjoy the ride and thank you so much for watching!
@@eternalafterlyfe I eventually traded the car for a new Honda HRV. A few reasons. #1. Gas. Once prices started going up it was a bear to fill 60-80 every week with premium for a 22 gallon tank. #2 minor things started happening that would put the car out of commission e.g. the trunk latch actuator went out. I couldn't find it anywhere, Lexus wanted to charge $2500, eventually I found it on e-bay but had to wait a month because it was being shipped from Japan. Then the oxygen sensor went out and it was a whole different issue because its located on the fire wall and not an easy fix. I couldn't do it myself and it cost. Other than that the next thing up was going to be the control arms and I had enough. It still rode like a dream, white fluffy cloudy, like driving a craftmatic bed, but it still is a 2007. If I had the money time and patience I would have kept it, but alas. I hope this info is helpful.
I may be wrong but I believe you can just change the bushings on the control arms. Not that difficult of a job and saves a ton of money. So if just the bushings are worn, check out going that route.
Thanks for the video. As an owner of a 2007, I'd also mention the issue with sticky/cracking door panels. Some owners on the Club Lexus forum were able to get this fixed without charge, but I have not had the same luck.
Hey glad you appreciate the video. Yea the only issue I recall reading about was the vents cracking. Try out some other dealers perhaps with a high rating on google. You may have to travel a bit to find a good dealer in a populated area
Bros you aint lying. That LONG WHEEL BASE with the self parking assist and all that...man..i went through 3 sets of control arms in 3 years. The car was super duper attractive and luxurious...but one year I spent about $6k in repairs..i had to drive that big body to CarMax and get rid of it and catch an uber home...
LS 460 is an absolutely fantastic vehicle if you have the money to maintain it. I drive a 2006 LS 430 I bought 15 years ago that has been fantastic and when it needs repair it really isn't that bad. My younger brother though bought a 2016 LS 460 only about five years ago used of course, and he has dropped at least $10,000 into it to keep it running. The air ride went out and I remember that cost $6-7K to repair. I don't remember the other stuff just that one big whammy but he does love the car. Let's be honest when we are talking power it blows my LS 430 away, but I didn't buy the LS 430 for power. I love the fact it really is a 1990s car in style and has what I call simple beauty to it. Great video!
I have a 10 Ls460, have had the brake actuator replaced under warranty and had to replace all my shocks! 5 years and those are the only two major problems i had! I have 3 lexus cars and they are almost bullet proof! Reliability is the main reason i love Lexus!
I own a 08 460 with rear entertainment (ML).61k miles with full Lexus SH..i also own a 2012 XJL Supersport with the VIP 650hp conversion.. awesome car for sure but when we switch to going out in our Lexus.. one word sums it up.. Blissful x We love our Lexus.. its like a poor mans Rolls Royce Phantom
About the LS460 you might want to avoid the 2013+ models. They might be reliable but they use for the infotainment the infamous remote touch controller which was meant to be a Lexus version of the 2000's BMW idrive. While reliable is unintuitive and borderline unusable while driving and many features from the car are buried inside it's menus and it is not upgradable. The LS430 is similar. it uses a touch screen while easy to use and understand it is hopelessly outdated. Both from hardware and software. And as the 460 not upgradable unless you get the base with the traditional 2 din radio (can be changed to modern android/carplay HUs even) but prohibits you from getting more features that aren't cooled seats (self closing doors, air spring, backup camera, ACC) Which brings you to the LS460 whose touchscreen can be updated in the 2007-2009 models with V line or the 2010-2012 while with better resolution and functionality cannot be upgraded but it is truly the best OEM infotainment you can get in a Lexus newer ones included. I personally would stick to this particular gen of the LS and get V line installed.
Is 2009 much better than 2008 for the awd, cabin noise and control arm issue? Or brakes? I found a nice deal on a 2008 RWD? Wondering if i should take the extra time to find and the money for the benefits..
Rock chipped front end … that’s actually a good tip! Obviously just one small clue as you build a case for or against a vehicle you’re considering … but personally I do prioritize mechanical state over aesthetic condition, I’ll take low miles bad paint over high miles good paint- and obviously the perceived abuse or care in said miles
@@fantasma.b it's been good so far. The control arms are all in good if not great condition. I took it in for the the valve spring recall two weeks ago and that has been fixed by lexus. I haven't put any money in repair or anything else since I got it but that's about to change. The rear passenger strut is leaking fluid and that needs to be changed. I'm planning on going with oem strut as I love how it rides. I dont want to lose that with an aftermarket strut. I also plan to change the differential fluid too cos I'm plaanning 800 miles round trip which is my main reason for getting the car. The only thing disappointing so far I have noticed is the audio system. Mine has the premium audio with 10 speakers and the audio quality is disappointing.
Great Video, I'm the owner of a 2007 LS460 with 280K and love it. last fall, I replaced lower and upper control arms, so far so good. Best car I've ever owned and the most reliable.
Good post, I am a 2013 LS460 AWD owner, had 108k miles on it, so far so good. The ML audio system is a must for LS. The AWD version come with a LSD which make it handling better. The spring suspension on LS is good enough, Air suspension didn't make a huge difference.
I find myself going through phases with cars and watch your videos multiple times over the course of different years. I appreciate you making these as they are super helpful to refer back to. You’ve reviewed most cars I’ve ever watched to learn about as we like the same kinds. Would you ever have another 460?
Love the Lexus. But. I just bought an 04 Lincoln for $5500. 115,000 on the clock. Like new inside and out. Drives and rides like a dream. Most comfortable car ever.
Regarding the front dash cracking and/or melting from continuous high heat like experienced in southern states, my local Atlanta Lexus dealer told me last month that Lexus is still willing to replace the dash under warrantee even for 2007 models over 100k.
One advantage to the hybrid LS600hl with executive pkg is enjoying hvac +power seat in accessory mode with engine off. Yes, there is additional expense, but taking an afternoon nap break at work is priceless!
I want to advise anyone considering to buy a used vehicle to have a through Pre-Purchase inspection done by either the Lexus dealer (about $140) or your trusted mechanic (about $80), even if the car has the reputation of being indestructible. Two out of three of the LS460s that I had inspected did not pass a thorough inspection. By this I mean that they had cumulative problems that added up to not being financially worth buying even if the seller discounted the car. Tried to buy a 2005 to 2012 Acura TL for my son. Had five inspected and all failed badly even though these were very well built cars. They looked awesome, but the previous owners just didnt take care of them. I consider spending $80 (or even $140) to save me $5,000 of repairs well spent money.
@Yemi Yes, I never had any dealership refuse to allow me to take the car to my independent mechanic or to a dealership mechanic. If they were to refuse, I would walk away from that car. Many times I found a Lexus or Acura on a Chevy used car lot or a Chrysler used car lot and they always agreed to let me take it to a Lexus or Acura mechanic to check it out. I refused to talk price until I knew the condition first . One independent lot allowed us to leave our car at their lot and allowed us 3 days to keep the Acura to have it checked out by our mechanic and drive it around all that we wanted. We loved that car and bought it.
@Yemi I forgot to mention that if I was looking at an Acura at an Acura dealership, then I would take the car to my independent mechanic for review, rather than another Acura dealership. This way I don't have to worry about the dealership having a conflict of interest (example: the Acura dealership doing the review over states problems with the car so that they can try to get me to buy a car from their dealership instead- this actually happened once).
Couple of things to add - I had the 2007 Exec edition - the dash was sticky and melting, and I had to pay several hundred dollars to get it redone. Another early year issue was the braking click noise when shifting in reverse or backing up at slow speeds. I didn’t have this car long, but I had the previous car (2004 LS430) and loved it. 2007 was a letdown. It’s not a drivers car, at least the Exec edition. My current 2016 A8L with the APR tuned 545HP is everything I wanted.
Current owner of an '07 RX 350. I want either An LS 430/460 or GS 430. It's really hard to find a V8 powered GS, though so I'll roll with the LS. Great video. You gave me a lot of insight on the 460.
Nice and thanks so much for your kind words I’m glad to be of help. I would actually go for a very clean LS430 with a warranty I think you will really love that motor, insanely smooth
Stanley Williams yeah patiently in the market for an 04-06 LS430 myself. such a player car and I’m a sucker for a beautiful and reliable car. Only thing I’m worried about is will it have some go for cruising the curvy roads n country hills. But my motorcycle should cover my speed thrills. I have a ‘17 honda hrv (great lil crossover) and I always ask myself why didn’t I save a lil money and snag a used 07-10 RX lol my mom had 06 and it was great till my lil bro totaled it
08-13 .. beleive it or not ... only 1600 gs 460s were ever built in these yrs and that model ... gs 460 .. 342 hp , detuned (with smaller manifold ) but same engine as the 390+ hp ls .... get a gs 460 .. send to perforance shop .. for a $1k get an uptune to get your ls HP it should have and engine built for (cant have luxary model , gs , same HP as sports model ., ls .. ) ... plus gs is rear wheel drive ... awd costly to repair ... gs is rare , only 1600 08 13 models so better resale value being a rarer car ...
Got my ‘11 460L in 3/2023 with 179k, I’m only 24 and I’m in love with this car.. I am not a fan of the newer models only this face!! No issues, I have 199k now and have to replace the control arm, maybe ball joint due to Nashville roads lol.. I’d rather replace that on this than anything on like a S550 or not comparing genesis or equs
Great review for me. I'm looking for an LS460 right now. I've looked at a couple, but now I feel like I've got more ammo to negotiate a better price. I'll let you know how I make out. Thanks for this!
@@MeynMotorGroup Just got mine today! 2008 SWB w/ML stereo and RWD just over 100,000 miles. Very happy with the car. Not too happy about the aftermarket rims though. I'll look for some OEM rims.
Review was spot on. When I got my 2009 460 with 131k miles all that needed to be done was the front control arms that were shot common problem got them fixed replaced them myself. But do beware the brake actuator brake booster and sometimes abs pump will go out on these, if you don’t have some sort of warranty or you bought a 460 that had these replaced recently be careful. Not saying it’s some hidden secrets but I’m currently saving 6k to replace the brake actuator and ABS pump as they both failed which was a given as my car is 14 years old with now 145k miles but I really did not expect them to fail at the same time Lexus looked at it for free as I do work there and confirmed the problem. I don’t to much mind as I have other cars but kinda bums me out Lexus doesn’t grant a extended warranty for a part they know fails yeah you could say it’s a part that will need to be replaced such as brakes but we have had 460s with 40k 50k miles come in for the same problem my car has. Lexus did have a warranty back in 2016-2017 but only for a year. All around good car literally nothing else is wrong with it like at all. Everything works inside and out the most comfortable Lexus I’ve ever sat in. It’s more comfortable than the new LS 500s yes I’m being serious I drive all types of Lexus 5 days a week.
*The LS460 has more problems than you think. I have a 2008, garaged kept and original owner. The dash, door panels and glovebox area started melting and leaving finger prints and gouges when you touch it. If you live in a hot and sunny climate like here in texas this will happen to your car. Also my battery went bad last year and I had it replaced by lexus and the infotainment display has never worked since replacing the battery. Just says some black error message all the time, can't use backup camera, gps, or anything else. Luckily there is a separate button for the ac and radio so I can still use them but can't see anything on the screen. Lexus dealer said $3200 to replace the infotainment center so I said screw that. Also the paint on the drip rails has peeled off, its just basically some sort of wrap over shiny and smooth chrome so no wonder why it doesn't stick. These are just a few of the gremlins that the ls460 has. I have a 2005 ls430 as well and only thing I've had to replace on that car is the battery and front wheel hub, which just went bad a couple of weeks ago after 16 years! Long story short, the ls430 is a much more reliable car than the ls460.*
The LS600hl is extremely reliable, there have been no reported problems with the CVT or the hybrid Powertrain seemingly, plus if you live in California the whole system is warrantied for 10 years and a hundred fifty thousand miles, I realize that some of them are already out of warranty but if you got like a 2011 or 12 you would have some warranty left presumably if it was under a hundred fifty thousand miles
I love how you described the LS 430 as "bulletproof". I have the LS 430 and love the thing. I just hate how it doesn't have bluetooth connectivity for Pandora, TH-cam, etc.
@@MeynMotorGroup have you heard of anyone that was able to replace the in-dash receiver/GPS with another one that allows you to stream audio from your phone (either wireless or wired) through the LS 430's sound system?
GROM sells their V-line 1 and 2 Android based computers for the LS430. The V-line will allow you to have Apple Carplay , Bluetooth streaming , You Tube Music, Pandora etc all available via touch control from the original unit's main screen. It's pricey , but it will allow you to update and keep the original factory controls and appearance. GROM also sells a Bluetooth streaming only adapter for the factory system as well. Android tablet style replacement head unit's , made in China, are also available. They also have Bluetooth streaming capability built in. Ali Express sells the head unit's fairly inexpensively.
Yo. Scored my wife an '06 430 with 109k on the clicker. Thing rolls like new, pretty much. We're amazed. We were able to pay cash for it, and to ride around in that without a car payment has us reconsidered everything.
I just bought a ls460sport edition yesterday for 9,500 cash... in good shape no obvious problems 300miles in so far. The isf style transmission and the big fsport breaks and sport suspension makes it fucking awesome to drive
I got lucky with a 2007 LS 460 with the rear seat package reclining, heat and cooled etc. 74.5 k miles 😮. Florida Car 1 owner all maintenance records. Taking it to the shop for a full breakdown. Took the car on a road trip already 8 hours total and was pleased! I've been driving a Benz for the last 10 years (but my Wife has a GS 300) and have had the C, E and S class style. Impressive Car.
I'm going to pick up a black 2009, with 46k miles, tomorrow! One owner, TX car. It is mint! This will be my 8th Lexus, and 5th LS. I've never had a 460. I've had 3 400s and 1 430. I love these cars!
Thank you sir for stopping by! I’m so happy you found it useful and I know your audience can’t thank you enough for all the great information you have shared with us. Take care!
I bought my 2007 with 93k. It’s an L model with air ride which one air suspension already changed RR. The wind noise thing is annoying on highway drives when you want silence it’s like leaving the window with a crack open. My trunk motor lift went out. I changed all my control arm bushings they were all shot.
Excellent review, I appreciate your info and background! I have owned a 2007 LS460L in Smokey Granite Mika for almost four years now. I purchased the car from a dealership in Illinois with 53k miles on it (currently have 58k). She sits more than she is driven, but she has been babied her entire life. All service by me and the previous owner completed at Lexus dealerships. A few things to point out from my experience... After I purchased the car I did notice a faint squeaking noise when first applying the brakes. I brought it to my local Lexus dealer and was concerned it was the brake actuator after doing some research online (mechanically the brakes were performing fine and no warning lights were on). Agreed to try a brake bleed but the noise still was there. They ended up replacing the entire brake actuator system for free under the enhanced warranty (TSB-54191) in 2017 and never charged me for the original brake bleed job. Also, in April 2020, Lexus mailed me a letter with details about extending the original 10 year warranty enhancement (even further than it originally was) so when I brought it in for an oil change this year I asked the service advisor about it. Again, they replaced everything free under the warranty. It did not have any sticky components or cracks, rather the glove box and the sides of the center console were slightly discolored from the original black color. They replaced all the door panels, glove box, console, and dashboard. The service advisor said if paid out of pocket it would be close to $7,500 for this repair. The only problems I've had with the car were the passenger side mirror stopped folding in when locked, and the driver lumbar support didn't engage. When I bought the car I purchased an extended warranty (4y/50k coverage for $2,750 and a $50 deductible) and both were covered. If I didn't have the extended warranty I would likely not have fixed them as both are conveniences and don't affect the performance of the car. I also own a 2013 RX and have had good reliability and service experiences with the Lexus dealerships. My two cents is if you own or are looking to purchase a Lexus is to connect with a local Lexus service advisor and try to do at least some of your maintenance and repair work there. Indeed, they do take excellent care of you and your car, but I sincerely believe they will work with you should something come up. I bought my RX in August of 2016 as a certified vehicle. It came with an unlimited mileage warranty for two years and a few complementary oil changes/tire rotations. Fast forward to December 2018 I brought it in for an oil change and the service advisor waived these charges and even changed the brake fluid, wiper blades, and engine/ac filters (even though the comped services ended August 2018). Understandable that not everyone wants to spend the extra money on dealer repairs, but the old saying "good is not always cheap, and cheap is not always good" rings true. I went to a Lexus from a Mercedes (also owned an Audi and Volvo) but will likely never leave the Lexus brand. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the design direction they went to on the newer vehicles, but for me service and reliability will outweigh that factor by a long mile. And no, I am not an employee of Toyota or Lexus, just a passionate owner sharing his experience.
@Exhaust Auto - Nice! I was thinking more along the lines of the 2006-2011 DTS proper, but the Deville on which it is based is a fine product as well. Watch out for those pre-2003 Northstar headgaskets though.
On my 2007, The seat belts, when un-snapped from their lock, hits the door (which is common) and has literally torn out large pieces of rubber/vinyl from both the arm rest and side trim. I have seen this on the early models. On the 2013 and newer models, Lexus re-engineered the side trim inward so it is not susceptible to seat belt damage. Why would the engineers install foam and vinyl on their side interior doors is besides me. My ls 400 1998 is all leather and looks like new. This model has been a 'train wreck'.
We've had a 2015 IS300h for about fours years, and have only had an issue with a spark plug. and the 12v battery which we had to replace during the first covid lockdown, I did that myself. To be fair, it's only done 30,000 miles, so I wouldn't expect any other problems. We have a service contract with our local Toyota/Lexus dealer, which guarantees the hybrid battery for 10 years. I'm in the UK
Glenn that is right for some reason my Ls460L, 2008, uses a qt. of oil. Every 2000 miles drying Hwy on cruise 85 MPH. I have always used Mobil 1 5w-20 or 0w-20. I am thinking my pcv valve may be stuck open but I am not going to have a Lexus dealer take the intake manifold etc... and change a $12 pvc valve ie(2.1 hrs. Labor; so I will try a different brand of 5w-20:oil. Believe it or not sometimes that will solve the problem. 🙄
Didn’t mention the door armrest issue where the finish deteriorates and eventually breaks down. Also headlamp ride night adjusters flooring rear suspension and trunk latch failure
Excellent video. I am at the end of my 2001 430LS which was already stuffed with electronics. All of them still work except for the cruise control module that gave out a year ago. A fix would cost more than the car is worth to me. And so I am looking at getting another LS. Momentarily considered an A8 but as reliability is a BIG thing for me and I do not need super powers in my car, LS wins again. The air suspension on mine has been problem free, so I would actually recommend it. Breaks are fine, but unless you go for the high end rotors, they strain and wobble which is a pain. Other than that this is a superb car.
Pay a couple hundred bucks for an extended warranty. When I bought my 2010 (AWD with Air Suspension - 68k miles) in 2015, the extended warranty I bought from USAA (around $500.00) when I purchased the car replaced the air suspension on all 4 corners under that warranty. Saved me close to 8 grand!
Wowza. I bought one used, a 2008 with the chrome rims. Until I saw this video, I assumed it had a donut space saver spare----never even checked. I found a used chrome rim on E-Bay, also found a matching tire, went to a shop and had it mounted and keep it in my trunk. After watching this, I just went out to the car and lifted that carpet in the trunk---and sure enough, a full sized spare on a matching rim, LOL. So I've been driving around with two full sized spares.
Haven’t driven it I did review a 2003 LS430 tho loved it actually the engine is even smoother than this LS460 so I would think the LS430 would be a better choice over the 400 a bit more power and every bit as smooth
So the lower control arm has problems? Glad you corrected the timing belt interval that was stated. I worked at Lexus and I’ve seen the timing belts go 190,000 to 280,000 cause the customers water pump started leaking. If it had not they would have still been driving the vehicle lol.
*LS430 TIMING BELT INTERVAL IS EVERY 90,000 MILES OR EVERY 108 MONTHS. Just wanted to correct that from the video*
*Also please look at this link, if you are going to buy this car, get a warranty*
www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-4th-gen-2007-2017/909613-brake-actuator-repair-cost-why-pay-3000-a.html
Original review of my LS: th-cam.com/video/993XGumGSRA/w-d-xo.html
Hope this guide was useful to anyone in the market for this generation LS. Let me know down below if you are and if you have any questions, I will try to answer them. Car reviews should be returning soon, if you would like to know and see which vehicles I will be working on, consider following me on Instagram @exhaustsports. Thank you
I think the 460 people will live tho
Please cant I change the air suspension on my 2008 LS460L to regular suspension?
Can I change the air suspension on my LS460 L to regular suspension?
John Sluder was
@@michaelslocum2828 were
Late to game, got mine a year ago. Thank you so much, my 08 has 470k. Bought it to transport my wife to cancer treatments. Greatest investment EVER. Lost her, will never let this car go. Thank you for your knowledge and passion. Thank you thank you.
this shit just made me cry dawg, dont ever let her go
Sorry for your loss.
Man! My condolences brother ❤️❤️❤️
Sorry for your loss brother
So sorry for you loss bro, I’ll be praying for you
My 2011 LS is now riding smooth at 360K miles with no issues . Love the LS
Manasse Nicaisse I’m getting a 09 for 14k ish.. 93k miles. Wish me luck! Give me advice please
Get the 2011 to 2013 ( I prefer) definitely get the history report. Check the suspension make no leaks and DO NOT GET AIR SUSPENSION unless recently replaced. ( I doubt it’ll be) I have two LS one 11 and a 13 love them both. I can send pictures if you like to see
@@mnicaisse The ones without the air suspension,are those still a pretty smooth ride????
MERCEDESBENZS600 S500 not as smooth.. but still smooth. I’ve notice the difference. If I purchase one I’d make sure a Warrantee comes with it. It’s a 5K to 8K service for air suspension part and service.
@@mnicaisse Good looking out my man,"F" air suspension, lol...
Working at a Lexus dealer there’s a good amount of 460 drivers with well over 200k. One guy has a 2010 600hL with 353k. You can look at everything and say the car has 60k miles.
I know right! Try finding a bmw 7 or merc S with those same miles!
*how is the battery holding up? Has he replaced it?*
@@iamryan4130 this is hilarious, I actually just worked with him yesterday and got to drive his car around, he’s at 372,XXX miles, the hybrid system is still all original, all we did for him was an oil change and rear diff service. The battery is still holding up well and the V8 engine up front doesn’t knock or burn any oil, and even with that many miles the 600hL still flies
@@goldencosmonaut *My God!!! That is a long time. I do have a curve ball of a question. Why do people hate V8 BMWs from the 07 08 period?*
@@iamryan4130 in my opinion I think it’s because they do a better job making smaller engines, their inline 6 is indestructible. The v8s have too much tech and too much plastic so something failing is a matter of when. They design vehicles with the intent of components failing. Lexus makes good v8 engines, great ones but they tend to be less reliable than their v6’s and 4cyls.
Just purchased a 2012 LS 460 with 100,000 miles. Drives like a dream!
Congrats!
@@MeynMotorGroup Thank you, your video is so informative
I also live in NC
I'm humbled! And nice always great to see viewers close by!
We bought an 07' LS460 last year with 92k. The original owner did a great job of having all Recalls and TSBs taken care of as well as maintaining the interior and exterior finishes. The only thing that my mechanic could find wrong with the car was that it was a little down on horsepower and throttle response. My mechanic cleaned the air intake system and the mass airflow meter for $80 and the engine now runs very strong with snappy throttle response. Other than that, we haven't had to repair anything, just oil and filter changes. Excellent car. Super comfortable seats and ride. Accelerates fast when you want it to.
Any updates ? How’s it still running?
Great job. I drive a 07 L trim with 185k miles. I love it.
Update. My car now has 208k miles on it. It still drives like a dream. Toyota makes great vehicles.
have you had any problems?
I can confirm that the valve spring recall is redeemable anytime. Did mine on 7 years old pre-owned LS imported to Europe from US and local dealer did the job no questions asked.
was the car clean title?
I have an appointment today to test drive a 2010 base model LS, one owner corporate car with 100,000 miles and complete dealer service history and I found this video REALLY helpful. I appreciate your effort in putting this out. Thanks!
A quick note, there were issues with squishy upper dashboard and upper front door and armrest materials. Many 2007-2009 had this replaced under warranties or paid hefty amounts to get their dashboards and front door cards replaced
Mark Levinson sound system is amazing, once you have it you can not go back to generic sound system in a vehicle....I had a 2010 LS460 with 135K miles that i took in routinely for standard oil changes at dealer and had no problems with the car and just traded in and got excellent trade value
I worked at a Lexus Dealership and the Ls was one of my favorite cars to drive. Those things 💩 and get. The quality of the interior is amazing. The wood trim is real wood. Not plastic. The auto parallel park system is pretty cool too
For sure it is definitely a very impressive car!
Just got a 2007 LS 460L and couldn't be happier, air suspension isn't too bad once you look into it, easy to upgrade to aftermarket air or use a controller to adjust ride height with data systems, even has the link adjustment where you can lower it on the factory air settings as well, and it's easy to convert over to a traditional four-loader system, I like the fact that I have the option to stay air or easily convert
What is a link adjustment? 2015 ls 460l and owner
The brake actuator issue may be related to H2O contamination of the brake fluid and corrosion within the actuator if the fluid is not flushed regularly. Brake fluid will attract H2O over time. Regular brake fluid flushes will minimize H2O within the fluid. Many owners and many mechanics ignore this maintenance.
One of the best reviews I have seen. have been a German car owner and bought a 2007 LS and have not been disappointed.
Thanks! This was mainly a buyers guide but I did do an actual road review and full feature tour on my channel if you’re interested definitely a great car!
I see a 07 for sale at a high volume dealership for $6700 w/130k thinking about it
I've been watching your series about owning 2007 Lexus LS 460 and loving them. You have done a great service for buyers like me who are scared of costs of ownership of a used LS 460. Thank you ! You can put all these videos in a playlist so they are easier to find in one place.
Great review! Thanks for posting. I'm at 220k miles and love my 2007 LS 460. Best car I've ever owned and the most reliable.
Awesome!
How long did it last? Is it still driving
you are very well spoken and unrushed. this felt like a good conversation great vid!
I appreciate that my friend
WHAT A FREAKING BEAUTIFUL & RELIABLE CAR... the Best of all Lexuses
Along with the GS350
I love the closed mouth look of the 2007 Lexus LS, it looks so classy.
I will never buy one of the newer Lexus products with their hideous spindle grill. PUKE. Toyota has completely lost the plot in the design department.
I bought a 2007 Lexus LS460 with your youtube help.
That is awesome my friend so happy for you and I'm humbled I could help!
How had it been I’m looking g for one now.
12:30, re sunshield, get some 760gsm white artist board and tracing paper. Trace the windscreen outline. Cut the tracing paper in half, top to bottom, slightly larger than half the window size (make some size adjustments, if needed, before cutting by checking the area around the windscreen inside the car). Transfer this to the board, cut two pieces. You will then have two 'halves' for the inside of the windscreen: slide the one in from the left, and the other from the right, they overlap in the middle, flip down the sun visors. Try to park facing south. The heat and UV are kept out the car, off the dash, console and front seats. When not in use, store behind the front seats, or in the trunk if carrying passengers. I've made one for all my cars since 1989.
I’ve had a LS400 LS430 and now I have an 11 LS460 and I like the 430 more than the 460 but the 460 is a beast, 380 HP AWD
The 430 is the best production sedan ever made. The 460 has control arm issues. Big $$$ to fix.
Would you take an 05 LS 430 over an 07 460 L?
Review is ON POINT
I’ve had control arms and water pump replaced on my 2007 LS460....both under warranty ... My brake actuator recently failed and since I love the car I’m getting it repaired although it’s pricey and isn’t covered under the extended enhancement warranty given by Lexus....I also had to have my trunk actuator replaced which wasn’t expensive at all....
Thanks so much! And yes prices for parts can be up there are you having brake actuator done at a lexus dealership?
Teresa, check this out, I’m late but jus FYI th-cam.com/video/7Bx3r4kD5Mo/w-d-xo.html
I got a 06 LS 430, it has 56K miles and run like brand new, really love it.
The 2004-2006 LS might be the greatest car of all time overall. I drove the 2004 from 2006-2014. 163k miles and barely any issues.
how much u pay for it
@@burningknuckle26 $17k out the door
I'm a new owner of a 2007 LS460L w 165K miles. It's my first highendcar and l've spent the first year ironing kinks-- lm out $12.5K. The quality of family road trips is unmatched! I want be able to boost 300+ miles too. I love your conversational, confident manner.
What problems did it have when you bought it? Looking to get one but they are all 100k+ milage
Just purchased a 2011 460 L, in the Granite color with 60k miles. Just wanted to give you a shoutout, as thanks to your videos on these cars, i was able to make a well informed purchase. Short story I'm loving this car, glad to be part of the LS crew now.
Hey congrats on your new purchase super happy that you love the car and I’m humbled that I was able to help. Enjoy the ride my friend 👍
My brother recently picked up a 07 460 and it's a pretty awesome car! Paid 14k for one with 41000 miles. Never been in an accident, one owner, all recorded regular maintenance!
I prefer my is350, by the comfy LS has grown on me!
Wow congrats and incredible price was it at a dealership? And yes the IS350 is an incredible sports sedan as well you guys know what’s up when it comes to cars. Thanks so much for stopping by
@@MeynMotorGroup yes it was at a dealership, was priced quite below other ones for sale, so he jumped at the chance!
Thanks for making awesome content!
That’s great! And thank you so much glad you appreciate it. Will try to get an IS350 to review if I can! Take care my friend
Wow I am looking at one and it's a private seller says he has all service records 2007 with the luxury package . 94k miles he's asking 14 for it . By the pics it looks clean , considering going to look at it in person though
skers, actually $14,000 is quite a bit above Kelly blue book and you definitely want to look at the service history from the dealership or better pass if you don’ have it. I was offered $6250 for my LS460L recently in close to mint condition for a trade in at Ontario Lexus with 120,000 mi. And body in 100% excellent condition that was a mailer to buy a a new LS 👎🏻
I had a 2010 for 8 years. I purchased in 2013 with 20k and sold it in 2021 with 107k. It was the perfect car! I traded up for 2018 LS500. The only issue I had was the suspension. Make sure that its been replaced before purchasing.
I have owned Lexus since 1995, l sold my last 2012, it was the greatest of all of the ones that I owned. I now own a IS 250 AWD, twin turbo v6 built engine. Great car!
Why would you twin turbo a 250 and not go for a 350?
just bought my 2007 ls460 for $8000. paid $200 for a mechanic fully checked it before purchase. very happy with it. getting average 8km/l so far.
Congrats my friend!
Thats cheap. In Finland these things go for over 20k at minimum.
sorry that is a straight up BS :-)
I paid 6000.00 straight cash for 2008, black on black. I was told by seller , an honest person in my opinion the car will need the dreaded actuator and that is reason to get rid of the car.
Bought it anyway. I am a tree shade wrench and will replace the actuator myself and gravity bleed it for couple of days if it need be. Yes it will be couple of gallons of brake fluid but so is life.
The one thing to watch while bleeding is not to introduce any moisture into system, kinda pita but easy does it, And then take it to the dealer for programming. This ought to save me thousands.
Some have had dificulty getting the thing licensed so they can drive it to the garage even, to replace the actuator. There is tempoary fix looking back at you when facing the dash, did I say dash? Get creative..... And yes it is temporary, right! An no need to mess with programing either, just common sense and a screewdriver..
The one concern I noticed while pulling the wheels is the Jacking Points on the body, they leave much to be desired for. Especially in rust belt areas, where I am at. They suffer from sloppy application of jacks and easy fold to curbside or from.I will clean the area of paint to the bare metal and weld small reinforcement into them, repaint and have a beer. Just got me one of the Vevor air jacks and that thing is a hoot, well worth the money (it was 150.00 cnd. That jack beats the factory scissor one by far.
Other than that the car is definitely worth the money I spent. Only one thing I would add, the factory 18" wheels on this car are really heavy. Will go aftermarket with something more jazzy and light. Seen some nice gold ones, jikes!
Ps: Kevin's review are top notch! I like his no nonsense and clear relaxed pace of presentation, thank You Kevin!
@@hitone4319thanks for saying all that man. some lexus owners are out of this world, keeping the problems to themselves as a secret and not telling anyone 😂
I just bought a used 2007 with 123K miles, very clean just two owners, FL car, clean CARFAX no accident, and one owner was a dealer. I did what you said and signed up at Lexus to see the vehicle maintenance history, and it was manintenance with Lexus until 122K. I am so happy. I took it to my mechanic and he said only the wipers needed to be replaced, and oil change. He was impressed with the price I paid, and said it was ready to drive to California. Only other thing which is minor is the roof trim peel. I am thinking about taking it off and getting it painted. I might even do it myself. Bar none this is the best car I have ever owned and I bought several cars new. Great review dude!
Hey congrats on your new purchase that’s awesome my friend. Glad the Lexus drivers tip was useful and it was smart to get it inspected.
I’ve also owned a lot of new cars and driven new cars but man this thing is something special. Enjoy the ride and thank you so much for watching!
How has the car been so far?
@@eternalafterlyfe I eventually traded the car for a new Honda HRV. A few reasons. #1. Gas. Once prices started going up it was a bear to fill 60-80 every week with premium for a 22 gallon tank. #2 minor things started happening that would put the car out of commission e.g. the trunk latch actuator went out. I couldn't find it anywhere, Lexus wanted to charge $2500, eventually I found it on e-bay but had to wait a month because it was being shipped from Japan. Then the oxygen sensor went out and it was a whole different issue because its located on the fire wall and not an easy fix. I couldn't do it myself and it cost. Other than that the next thing up was going to be the control arms and I had enough. It still rode like a dream, white fluffy cloudy, like driving a craftmatic bed, but it still is a 2007. If I had the money time and patience I would have kept it, but alas. I hope this info is helpful.
@@Tio_Uncle_VR it was, I appreciate the reply
A luxury car with a full size spare from the factory? Interesting!
It is nice haha
Audi has the same feature
I may be wrong but I believe you can just change the bushings on the control arms. Not that difficult of a job and saves a ton of money. So if just the bushings are worn, check out going that route.
So ready for my next ls460 after seeing your reviews on these road beasts
Haha get it my friend you will love it but make sure you pay up for that warranty as well
Awd is good even if you dont live in a climate that doesnt demand it. Provides so much more grip and fixes some handling issues
Thanks for the video. As an owner of a 2007, I'd also mention the issue with sticky/cracking door panels. Some owners on the Club Lexus forum were able to get this fixed without charge, but I have not had the same luck.
Hey glad you appreciate the video. Yea the only issue I recall reading about was the vents cracking. Try out some other dealers perhaps with a high rating on google. You may have to travel a bit to find a good dealer in a populated area
Bros you aint lying. That LONG WHEEL BASE with the self parking assist and all that...man..i went through 3 sets of control arms in 3 years. The car was super duper attractive and luxurious...but one year I spent about $6k in repairs..i had to drive that big body to CarMax and get rid of it and catch an uber home...
Were they OEM control arms?
LS 460 is an absolutely fantastic vehicle if you have the money to maintain it. I drive a 2006 LS 430 I bought 15 years ago that has been fantastic and when it needs repair it really isn't that bad. My younger brother though bought a 2016 LS 460 only about five years ago used of course, and he has dropped at least $10,000 into it to keep it running. The air ride went out and I remember that cost $6-7K to repair. I don't remember the other stuff just that one big whammy but he does love the car. Let's be honest when we are talking power it blows my LS 430 away, but I didn't buy the LS 430 for power. I love the fact it really is a 1990s car in style and has what I call simple beauty to it. Great video!
I have a 10 Ls460, have had the brake actuator replaced under warranty and had to replace all my shocks! 5 years and those are the only two major problems i had! I have 3 lexus cars and they are almost bullet proof! Reliability is the main reason i love Lexus!
I own a 08 460 with rear entertainment (ML).61k miles with full Lexus SH..i also own a 2012 XJL Supersport with the VIP 650hp conversion.. awesome car for sure but when we switch to going out in our Lexus.. one word sums it up.. Blissful x
We love our Lexus.. its like a poor mans Rolls Royce Phantom
About the LS460 you might want to avoid the 2013+ models. They might be reliable but they use for the infotainment the infamous remote touch controller which was meant to be a Lexus version of the 2000's BMW idrive. While reliable is unintuitive and borderline unusable while driving and many features from the car are buried inside it's menus and it is not upgradable.
The LS430 is similar. it uses a touch screen while easy to use and understand it is hopelessly outdated. Both from hardware and software. And as the 460 not upgradable unless you get the base with the traditional 2 din radio (can be changed to modern android/carplay HUs even) but prohibits you from getting more features that aren't cooled seats (self closing doors, air spring, backup camera, ACC)
Which brings you to the LS460 whose touchscreen can be updated in the 2007-2009 models with V line or the 2010-2012 while with better resolution and functionality cannot be upgraded but it is truly the best OEM infotainment you can get in a Lexus newer ones included.
I personally would stick to this particular gen of the LS and get V line installed.
Is 2009 much better than 2008 for the awd, cabin noise and control arm issue? Or brakes? I found a nice deal on a 2008 RWD? Wondering if i should take the extra time to find and the money for the benefits..
Wait so a 2010 can’t get CarPlay?
Rock chipped front end … that’s actually a good tip! Obviously just one small clue as you build a case for or against a vehicle you’re considering … but personally I do prioritize mechanical state over aesthetic condition, I’ll take low miles bad paint over high miles good paint- and obviously the perceived abuse or care in said miles
I have a 2005 ls430. It has 130, 000 miles so far, and it runs almost as smooth as it did in 2005. A great car.
Thinking about getting another Lexus...my 1st was a 1991 ES, now hopefully I will have enough to afford an 2012 LS in 2021!
Just got an LS 460 with 190k on the clock for $6.5k in Pristine condition. What a steal.
How has it been treating you?
@@fantasma.b it's been good so far. The control arms are all in good if not great condition. I took it in for the the valve spring recall two weeks ago and that has been fixed by lexus. I haven't put any money in repair or anything else since I got it but that's about to change. The rear passenger strut is leaking fluid and that needs to be changed. I'm planning on going with oem strut as I love how it rides. I dont want to lose that with an aftermarket strut. I also plan to change the differential fluid too cos I'm plaanning 800 miles round trip which is my main reason for getting the car. The only thing disappointing so far I have noticed is the audio system. Mine has the premium audio with 10 speakers and the audio quality is disappointing.
Great Video, I'm the owner of a 2007 LS460 with 280K and love it. last fall, I replaced lower and upper control arms, so far so good. Best car I've ever owned and the most reliable.
Did you get am aftermarket control arms? If so what brand amd how it holding up so far?
@@newbassplayer4005 I got Mevotech and so far no issues,
@@unamsoft that's good to hear
Good post, I am a 2013 LS460 AWD owner, had 108k miles on it, so far so good. The ML audio system is a must for LS. The AWD version come with a LSD which make it handling better. The spring suspension on LS is good enough, Air suspension didn't make a huge difference.
Thanks so much and great car, I loved the 2013 LS great job
I have the 2008 with the ML sound system. Love it
Smoothest driving car I have ever owned.
How many watts?
I find myself going through phases with cars and watch your videos multiple times over the course of different years. I appreciate you making these as they are super helpful to refer back to. You’ve reviewed most cars I’ve ever watched to learn about as we like the same kinds. Would you ever have another 460?
Thanks so much Chris for your continued support I’m humbled to have you on the channel.
I would get a 460 but only a clean one with a warranty
Love the Lexus. But. I just bought an 04 Lincoln for $5500. 115,000 on the clock. Like new inside and out. Drives and rides like a dream. Most comfortable car ever.
Regarding the front dash cracking and/or melting from continuous high heat like experienced in southern states, my local Atlanta Lexus dealer told me last month that Lexus is still willing to replace the dash under warrantee even for 2007 models over 100k.
Definitely depends on the dealer.
You can drive this car in Test Drive Unlimited for PC and it has a high quality interior, beautiful car!
Lol that’s pretty cool
Actually haha
One advantage to the hybrid LS600hl with executive pkg is enjoying hvac +power seat in accessory mode with engine off. Yes, there is additional expense, but taking an afternoon nap break at work is priceless!
Oh yea Eric it’s baller as hell for sure haha enjoy it sir that’s a pimp ride
I want to advise anyone considering to buy a used vehicle to have a through Pre-Purchase inspection done by either the Lexus dealer (about $140) or your trusted mechanic (about $80), even if the car has the reputation of being indestructible. Two out of three of the LS460s that I had inspected did not pass a thorough inspection. By this I mean that they had cumulative problems that added up to not being financially worth buying even if the seller discounted the car. Tried to buy a 2005 to 2012 Acura TL for my son. Had five inspected and all failed badly even though these were very well built cars. They looked awesome, but the previous owners just didnt take care of them. I consider spending $80 (or even $140) to save me $5,000 of repairs well spent money.
@Yemi
Yes, I never had any dealership refuse to allow me to take the car to my independent mechanic or to a dealership mechanic. If they were to refuse, I would walk away from that car. Many times I found a Lexus or Acura on a Chevy used car lot or a Chrysler used car lot and they always agreed to let me take it to a Lexus or Acura mechanic to check it out. I refused to talk price until I knew the condition first . One independent lot allowed us to leave our car at their lot and allowed us 3 days to keep the Acura to have it checked out by our mechanic and drive it around all that we wanted. We loved that car and bought it.
@Yemi
I forgot to mention that if I was looking at an Acura at an Acura dealership, then I would take the car to my independent mechanic for review, rather than another Acura dealership. This way I don't have to worry about the dealership having a conflict of interest (example: the Acura dealership doing the review over states problems with the car so that they can try to get me to buy a car from their dealership instead- this actually happened once).
Couple of things to add - I had the 2007 Exec edition - the dash was sticky and melting, and I had to pay several hundred dollars to get it redone. Another early year issue was the braking click noise when shifting in reverse or backing up at slow speeds. I didn’t have this car long, but I had the previous car (2004 LS430) and loved it. 2007 was a letdown. It’s not a drivers car, at least the Exec edition. My current 2016 A8L with the APR tuned 545HP is everything I wanted.
I heard that the LS430 ranked the highest score ever, by any car, at any time by JD Powers
I don’t really value their scoring system but I’m sure the LS scores high no matter who’s rating it lol 😂
Exhaust Sports Auto
Your evaluation was great!
Great how your evaluations are based on sensible, relative logic.
Super helpful
@@flyonbyya thanks!
Current owner of an '07 RX 350. I want either An LS 430/460 or GS 430. It's really hard to find a V8 powered GS, though so I'll roll with the LS. Great video. You gave me a lot of insight on the 460.
Nice and thanks so much for your kind words I’m glad to be of help. I would actually go for a very clean LS430 with a warranty I think you will really love that motor, insanely smooth
@@MeynMotorGroup I was leaning that way! Thanks! I'll take that advice. Again, you've been a HUGE help.
Stanley Williams yeah patiently in the market for an 04-06 LS430 myself. such a player car and I’m a sucker for a beautiful and reliable car. Only thing I’m worried about is will it have some go for cruising the curvy roads n country hills. But my motorcycle should cover my speed thrills. I have a ‘17 honda hrv (great lil crossover) and I always ask myself why didn’t I save a lil money and snag a used 07-10 RX lol my mom had 06 and it was great till my lil bro totaled it
@@LGeezus_ Yeah, that big V6 is a great engine and it actually makes the RX sneaky quick. For tackling those curvy roads, I'd go with an IS or IS-F.
08-13 .. beleive it or not ... only 1600 gs 460s were ever built in these yrs and that model ... gs 460 .. 342 hp , detuned (with smaller manifold ) but same engine as the 390+ hp ls .... get a gs 460 .. send to perforance shop .. for a $1k get an uptune to get your ls HP it should have and engine built for (cant have luxary model , gs , same HP as sports model ., ls .. ) ... plus gs is rear wheel drive ... awd costly to repair ... gs is rare , only 1600 08 13 models so better resale value being a rarer car ...
Got my ‘11 460L in 3/2023 with 179k, I’m only 24 and I’m in love with this car.. I am not a fan of the newer models only this face!! No issues, I have 199k now and have to replace the control arm, maybe ball joint due to Nashville roads lol.. I’d rather replace that on this than anything on like a S550 or not comparing genesis or equs
Great review for me. I'm looking for an LS460 right now. I've looked at a couple, but now I feel like I've got more ammo to negotiate a better price. I'll let you know how I make out. Thanks for this!
Awesome! Glad this helped and good luck my friend
I have 2012 ls460 with 49k miles in mint condition
Sale 30k
@@MeynMotorGroup Just got mine today! 2008 SWB w/ML stereo and RWD just over 100,000 miles. Very happy with the car. Not too happy about the aftermarket rims though. I'll look for some OEM rims.
Nice huge congrats my friend
Review was spot on. When I got my 2009 460 with 131k miles all that needed to be done was the front control arms that were shot common problem got them fixed replaced them myself. But do beware the brake actuator brake booster and sometimes abs pump will go out on these, if you don’t have some sort of warranty or you bought a 460 that had these replaced recently be careful. Not saying it’s some hidden secrets but I’m currently saving 6k to replace the brake actuator and ABS pump as they both failed which was a given as my car is 14 years old with now 145k miles but I really did not expect them to fail at the same time Lexus looked at it for free as I do work there and confirmed the problem. I don’t to much mind as I have other cars but kinda bums me out Lexus doesn’t grant a extended warranty for a part they know fails yeah you could say it’s a part that will need to be replaced such as brakes but we have had 460s with 40k 50k miles come in for the same problem my car has. Lexus did have a warranty back in 2016-2017 but only for a year. All around good car literally nothing else is wrong with it like at all. Everything works inside and out the most comfortable Lexus I’ve ever sat in. It’s more comfortable than the new LS 500s yes I’m being serious I drive all types of Lexus 5 days a week.
This generation of LS is still the best at design for me!
Its definitely a nice one!
I agree. I can’t live with those gigantic grills from the 2013s on up. Look like a snow plow on the front of the car
*The LS460 has more problems than you think. I have a 2008, garaged kept and original owner. The dash, door panels and glovebox area started melting and leaving finger prints and gouges when you touch it. If you live in a hot and sunny climate like here in texas this will happen to your car. Also my battery went bad last year and I had it replaced by lexus and the infotainment display has never worked since replacing the battery. Just says some black error message all the time, can't use backup camera, gps, or anything else. Luckily there is a separate button for the ac and radio so I can still use them but can't see anything on the screen. Lexus dealer said $3200 to replace the infotainment center so I said screw that. Also the paint on the drip rails has peeled off, its just basically some sort of wrap over shiny and smooth chrome so no wonder why it doesn't stick. These are just a few of the gremlins that the ls460 has. I have a 2005 ls430 as well and only thing I've had to replace on that car is the battery and front wheel hub, which just went bad a couple of weeks ago after 16 years! Long story short, the ls430 is a much more reliable car than the ls460.*
So if display monitor goes out the climate control and audio still works? I'm bout to look at one but display monitor doesn't work. Help me out please
When I pay off my gx in 3 years im getting a 2013+ LS460
oh you will love it my friend
Reliable cars usually don’t get good gas mileage haha unless they’re economy cars
@@Chinese_Chicken My Ram gets 15 @ 80 mph.......Glad I didnt get the Tundra now.
The LS600hl is extremely reliable, there have been no reported problems with the CVT or the hybrid Powertrain seemingly, plus if you live in California the whole system is warrantied for 10 years and a hundred fifty thousand miles, I realize that some of them are already out of warranty but if you got like a 2011 or 12 you would have some warranty left presumably if it was under a hundred fifty thousand miles
2011 LS 460L owner and I love my car
Hey do they have valve seal problems
I’ve got 234000 miles on mine and it runs awesome I put 200,000 of them on it. Great cars.
The Club Lexus forum is great.
Yea great resource and awesome people thanks for stopping by John
There is a recall on the 2008 LS 460, Brake Actuator. The dealer will repair. It is a 3,000. 00 repair.
This is by far the biggest issue because 2009 and older are now past the warranty
Could you solve it? If yes, how?
That is my favorite car ever, anytime I see it I love it!
Same! It’s a sick car for so much to appreciate. Thanks for stopping by my friend
60,000 is really good ! my ls430’s made it to 311,000 until its compressor converter failed , it still ran but i ended up doing a trans swap
I love how you described the LS 430 as "bulletproof". I have the LS 430 and love the thing. I just hate how it doesn't have bluetooth connectivity for Pandora, TH-cam, etc.
Just reviewed one! Absolutely stunning car can’t wait to post it
@@MeynMotorGroup have you heard of anyone that was able to replace the in-dash receiver/GPS with another one that allows you to stream audio from your phone (either wireless or wired) through the LS 430's sound system?
Kenny Duthie you could always replace the stock ststem, any audio shop can do that for you
feodufg3r4weozjmkdwopsqkf3 I will try to ask some other audio shops. A big one I know, Crutchfield, started they can't do it for the 2005 LS 430.
GROM sells their V-line 1 and 2 Android based computers for the LS430. The V-line will allow you to have Apple Carplay , Bluetooth streaming , You Tube Music, Pandora etc all available via touch control from the original unit's main screen. It's pricey , but it will allow you to update and keep the original factory controls and appearance. GROM also sells a Bluetooth streaming only adapter for the factory system as well. Android tablet style replacement head unit's , made in China, are also available. They also have Bluetooth streaming capability built in. Ali Express sells the head unit's fairly inexpensively.
My car is350 is running nearly 100 000km from 2016 till now .no little problems happened .
Nice great car
The Lexus service at canberra is very good.
Very thorough review. Thanks!
You mentioned the LS430 being more reliable than the 460. Could you do a review on that?
Thank you! And yes I’m working on that! Haha just so hard to find them because nobody ever trades them in! But I promise to review one eventually!
Exhaust Sports Auto damn right no one does, my 400 is with me till my last breath or it’s last mile
That’s badass!
Yo. Scored my wife an '06 430 with 109k on the clicker. Thing rolls like new, pretty much. We're amazed. We were able to pay cash for it, and to ride around in that without a car payment has us reconsidered everything.
@@JosephCMiller I got super lucky, my 430 had 48k, previous owner couldn't drive it anymore. Drives like a champ.
I just bought a ls460sport edition yesterday for 9,500 cash... in good shape no obvious problems 300miles in so far.
The isf style transmission and the big fsport breaks and sport suspension makes it fucking awesome to drive
I got lucky with a 2007 LS 460 with the rear seat package reclining, heat and cooled etc. 74.5 k miles 😮. Florida Car 1 owner all maintenance records. Taking it to the shop for a full breakdown. Took the car on a road trip already 8 hours total and was pleased! I've been driving a Benz for the last 10 years (but my Wife has a GS 300) and have had the C, E and S class style. Impressive Car.
Thank you !!! The Lexus driver website was very helpful
You’re welcome glad it helped!
I'm going to pick up a black 2009, with 46k miles, tomorrow! One owner, TX car. It is mint! This will be my 8th Lexus, and 5th LS. I've never had a 460. I've had 3 400s and 1 430. I love these cars!
VERY VERY useful information @ 4:38! Thank you for this video!
Thank you sir for stopping by! I’m so happy you found it useful and I know your audience can’t thank you enough for all the great information you have shared with us. Take care!
I bought my 2007 with 93k. It’s an L model with air ride which one air suspension already changed RR. The wind noise thing is annoying on highway drives when you want silence it’s like leaving the window with a crack open. My trunk motor lift went out. I changed all my control arm bushings they were all shot.
Excellent review, I appreciate your info and background! I have owned a 2007 LS460L in Smokey Granite Mika for almost four years now. I purchased the car from a dealership in Illinois with 53k miles on it (currently have 58k). She sits more than she is driven, but she has been babied her entire life. All service by me and the previous owner completed at Lexus dealerships. A few things to point out from my experience... After I purchased the car I did notice a faint squeaking noise when first applying the brakes. I brought it to my local Lexus dealer and was concerned it was the brake actuator after doing some research online (mechanically the brakes were performing fine and no warning lights were on). Agreed to try a brake bleed but the noise still was there. They ended up replacing the entire brake actuator system for free under the enhanced warranty (TSB-54191) in 2017 and never charged me for the original brake bleed job. Also, in April 2020, Lexus mailed me a letter with details about extending the original 10 year warranty enhancement (even further than it originally was) so when I brought it in for an oil change this year I asked the service advisor about it. Again, they replaced everything free under the warranty. It did not have any sticky components or cracks, rather the glove box and the sides of the center console were slightly discolored from the original black color. They replaced all the door panels, glove box, console, and dashboard. The service advisor said if paid out of pocket it would be close to $7,500 for this repair. The only problems I've had with the car were the passenger side mirror stopped folding in when locked, and the driver lumbar support didn't engage. When I bought the car I purchased an extended warranty (4y/50k coverage for $2,750 and a $50 deductible) and both were covered. If I didn't have the extended warranty I would likely not have fixed them as both are conveniences and don't affect the performance of the car. I also own a 2013 RX and have had good reliability and service experiences with the Lexus dealerships. My two cents is if you own or are looking to purchase a Lexus is to connect with a local Lexus service advisor and try to do at least some of your maintenance and repair work there. Indeed, they do take excellent care of you and your car, but I sincerely believe they will work with you should something come up. I bought my RX in August of 2016 as a certified vehicle. It came with an unlimited mileage warranty for two years and a few complementary oil changes/tire rotations. Fast forward to December 2018 I brought it in for an oil change and the service advisor waived these charges and even changed the brake fluid, wiper blades, and engine/ac filters (even though the comped services ended August 2018). Understandable that not everyone wants to spend the extra money on dealer repairs, but the old saying "good is not always cheap, and cheap is not always good" rings true. I went to a Lexus from a Mercedes (also owned an Audi and Volvo) but will likely never leave the Lexus brand. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the design direction they went to on the newer vehicles, but for me service and reliability will outweigh that factor by a long mile. And no, I am not an employee of Toyota or Lexus, just a passionate owner sharing his experience.
watching this a year later is crazy because your skills and video quality are so improved great work man love the content
Oh thank you so much my friend really appreciate your continued support!
Air suspension is awesome and Lexus's system is good for over 100k miles. It's worth not avoiding imo.
Yeah the drive is amazing
Hey man appreciate your reviews. Very useful and non-robotic
Thanks!
The ML amp on my 07 GS450h was quoted $2650 by my dealer, i wind up buying a used one on Eb** for 170 and it worked great.
The Cadillac DTS may be inferior, but it sure has aged better and won't eat you alive on maintenance costs.
I am literally working on a Cadillac Deville DTS review right now 😂
@Exhaust Auto - Nice! I was thinking more along the lines of the 2006-2011 DTS proper, but the Deville on which it is based is a fine product as well. Watch out for those pre-2003 Northstar headgaskets though.
@@Browningate Yup it was 2002 haha the review is posted on my channel the latest video I have up right now.
@Exhaust Auto - Nice! I'll be sure to check it out.
On my 2007, The seat belts, when un-snapped from their lock, hits the door (which is common) and has literally torn out large pieces of rubber/vinyl from both the arm rest and side trim. I have seen this on the early models. On the 2013 and newer models, Lexus re-engineered the side trim inward so it is not susceptible to seat belt damage. Why would the engineers install foam and vinyl on their side interior doors is besides me. My ls 400 1998 is all leather and looks like new. This model has been a 'train wreck'.
We've had a 2015 IS300h for about fours years, and have only had an issue with a spark plug.
and the 12v battery which we had to replace during the first covid lockdown, I did that myself.
To be fair, it's only done 30,000 miles, so I wouldn't expect any other problems. We have a service contract with our local Toyota/Lexus dealer, which guarantees the hybrid battery for 10 years.
I'm in the UK
Check history for oil consumption. Has come up in these cars before.
Glenn that is right for some reason my Ls460L, 2008, uses a qt. of oil. Every 2000 miles drying Hwy on cruise 85 MPH. I have always used Mobil 1 5w-20 or 0w-20. I am thinking my pcv valve may be stuck open but I am not going to have a Lexus dealer take the intake manifold etc... and change a $12 pvc valve ie(2.1 hrs. Labor; so I will try a different brand of 5w-20:oil. Believe it or not sometimes that will solve the problem. 🙄
Jim Hamilton
Be careful, clogged pcv can eventually lead to valve cover gasket replacement.
Didn’t mention the door armrest issue where the finish deteriorates and eventually breaks down. Also headlamp ride night adjusters flooring rear suspension and trunk latch failure
Excellent video. I am at the end of my 2001 430LS which was already stuffed with electronics. All of them still work except for the cruise control module that gave out a year ago. A fix would cost more than the car is worth to me. And so I am looking at getting another LS. Momentarily considered an A8 but as reliability is a BIG thing for me and I do not need super powers in my car, LS wins again. The air suspension on mine has been problem free, so I would actually recommend it. Breaks are fine, but unless you go for the high end rotors, they strain and wobble which is a pain. Other than that this is a superb car.
Thanks again and yea great car would suggest a warranty tho
Pay a couple hundred bucks for an extended warranty. When I bought my 2010 (AWD with Air Suspension - 68k miles) in 2015, the extended warranty I bought from USAA (around $500.00) when I purchased the car replaced the air suspension on all 4 corners under that warranty. Saved me close to 8 grand!
yea but isn't USAA military only? That is really awesome tho
I just discovered your channel and I love it!!! Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks so much, glad you find value in what I do!
245-55 or 60-18 nice size tires better for control arms. Coil over struts nice call great call.
I’m in the market for this year ls, great information. Thanks buddy
That’s awesome glad I could help my friend
Spray the rubber around the window with silicone it softens the rubber and helps with wind noise
Great vid man. Lots of useful information. I’m looking to upgrade from a ES to a LS in the future.
Hey thanks so much I’m glad it was useful. Yea I think you will really like it, just get a warranty and you’re good to go
Wowza. I bought one used, a 2008 with the chrome rims. Until I saw this video, I assumed it had a donut space saver spare----never even checked. I found a used chrome rim on E-Bay, also found a matching tire, went to a shop and had it mounted and keep it in my trunk. After watching this, I just went out to the car and lifted that carpet in the trunk---and sure enough, a full sized spare on a matching rim, LOL. So I've been driving around with two full sized spares.
What do you think about the 2000 LS 400
Haven’t driven it I did review a 2003 LS430 tho loved it actually the engine is even smoother than this LS460 so I would think the LS430 would be a better choice over the 400 a bit more power and every bit as smooth
Bullet proof!
Brilliant video brother! That’s how you do a car buyers review! 10/10 peace and love from the Uk
So the lower control arm has problems? Glad you corrected the timing belt interval that was stated. I worked at Lexus and I’ve seen the timing belts go 190,000 to 280,000 cause the customers water pump started leaking. If it had not they would have still been driving the vehicle lol.
You can add any information you want on the Lexus service history section, its not tied down to just Lexus.