success IN WHAT .... westerns life stile, of happy go lucky and alcohol drugs Atheist's fucking everything that moves ,,, you westerns culture or any other backwards culture is bad
I'm a child psychiatrist. I met a teenage patient two years ago, who was a rising star in the regional MMA scene. His reason for coming to see me was difficulty focusing. At first, I suspected he had Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. But he declined medication to treat that. Later, he told me about being anxious all of the time. Then, I figured his focus problems were caused by the anxiety. In later office visits, he opened up about nightmares, flashbacks, panic attacks, and hypervigilance. The picture became complete, that he has Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. He didn't have any of the normal risk factors - no abuse, abandonment, financial problems, or other trauma. But the one stressor he had was the ongoing need to compete in MMA competitions. He started attending psychotherapy, and soon after, he decided not to compete anymore. Since then, his anxiety resolved, and he is much calmer. The lesson here is that young people may not be mentally prepared to compete in high-level blood sports. So parents should be careful not to push their kids to compete.
I think a lot of people with degrees don’t know for sure if a patient has anything and they are just shooting in the dark diagnosing conditions and prescribing meds.
@@fnc5369 This is one of the dumbest conclusions ever. The amount of documentation on mental disorders and the characteristics of them are undeniable. Maybe someone doesn't have x y z... but when I was diagnosed with PTSD and I went home and looked into PTSD symptoms, I literally had almost all the symptoms. I would have helped myself a lot sooner by going to someone who could have pointed it out to me.
Martial arts is a lonely game especially when you're injured. Probably better to live a normal life than Martial arts in some ways. And she's a pretty girl missed out on a normal life in some ways
When you have a family of intense competitors, anxiety to excel can overload your mind. That’s what the Lee family found out that’s why they closed their gym and retired from the sport to start a new life.
I am so deeply saddened by the realization that beautiful and talented Victoria has passed. And then to hear that big sister Angela has also been struggling with the darkness that plagued young Victoria is just overwhelmingly tragic. I hope the Lee family continues to work on healing their mind and spirit. Martial Art without spiritual enlightenment can lead to darkness that can be difficult to recover from. I pray for their well being.
I think this video painted something that us viewers can color ourselves. How I wish whoever or whatever responsible for their response should be held accounted for.
I'm from Vancouver and I'm so sad to hear about beautiful young Victoria taking her own life. I've had 2 cousins do the same thing. My heart goes out to the Lee family.
As a football player from PW to College to semi-pro, and fighter, I know I have CTE. It drove me to rage, alcohol abuse, depression, and caused a lot of pain in myself and others. Please people, when you see someone that has been in contact/combat sports for a long time, that person has a medical reason, NOT an excuse, for snapping at things to which others may not. I know, NO one should behave the way I did. Not trying to justify, but just trying to bring awareness. I was told CTE affects youth-brains more than mature ones. Victoria may have been a victim of it.
Female combat sports athletes are nowhere near strong enough to give each other any considerable damage. They are not male fighters. This young girl was suffering from depression. And depression is COMPLETELY different to CTE. Completely.
@@aig1111 That's a very personal and private subject you're asking for them to share and they may not be ready to share it With strangers. Maybe never ready to share it with strangers
It's really hit hard, when I heard their youngest sister pass way in 2022. I Knew about LEE brother and sister in One Championship, since I'm from Myanmar and currently living in Singapore. As a father, as a sibling, I feel really bad. Heartfelt condolence to rest of the family and may her soul RIP.
I used to train with her parents before she was born. Her parents were really competitive. However, they couldn't be champions themselves. So, they're pushing their dreams of being a champion into their children. I'm sure all the Lee family kids felt a lot of pressure from their parents to do better in MMA, especially from their dad. They just pushed them too hard.
i think it comes from somewhere in her family bloodline. Genetically. If you have multiple family members having the same thoughts. I seen other cases like this that makes me think this way.
@@CBCNamjai wonder if angela wanted a break of some kind to live a normal life to have kids and the dad pressured her not to. Same with victoria. She maybe wanted a break to maybe go school idk
Very sad for such an amazing fighter, God Bless her n her family!!! We have to do better as parents for our young people and make them realize that bad, isnt really that bad and LOVE is priceless yet the most valuable thing we have as human beings!!!
Crazy I didn’t know how Victoria passed and how Angela tried. This very morning I heard of a friend on mine that also tried this morning and my prayers have been for her and her husband all day long. It’s not easy out in this crazy world. I didn’t know Angela even retired but I can’t blame her she accomplished so much she doesn’t have to prove herself for anything.
Yeap, the anti-vax people jumped on it immediately. And, blamed the vaccine of course. The family waited nearly 1-2 weeks and didn't announce the cause of death. Even though, it was obviously suicide (reading between the lines of her IG statement).
Right before I moved from Hawaii in 2012, I had the pleasure of meeting Christian, and later Angela at a church camp for teens. They mentioned MMA almost like it was more of a hobby than their dream, at the time we were all just happy teens at camp. Christian ended up being part of the group within camp we formed, and man when I tell you I remember how kind he was, I'm convinced he was the humblest, and kindest teenager I've ever come across to date. And his sister wasn't that much more different. After camp we all got each other socials, but didn't keep in contact for long. Seeing friends whom I knew are good people, rise to the top of ONE championship over the years gave me a sense of pride and genuine happiness for them. Now I can't help but feel sad for the kids at camp that I remember. It makes me wonder if they even actually wanted to fight in the first place, or if it was something forced onto them. Especially considering how they talked about training MMA like it was something they did to pass the time. It's been so long now that I'm ashamed to check in on them, and don't even know if they remember I exist on their friends lists. I hope they found the peace they've always deserved.
Angela is so sweet. It's terrible that the girls in this family attempt to end themselves, one of them tragically following thru. If you want to end it, remember the people in your life who loved you. And try to remember that every day you're alive, the haters seethe. The moment you choose to exit, the terrorists win. Literally just breathing everyday is a W over them. Its very alien to me for athletes to want to end themselves because fighting sports usually save people from depression, self-hate & other demons. It teaches people how to love themselves, builds self-confidence, ignites a will to overcome, etc. I know stuff like making weight, injuries, losing or having to give up the sports when u weren't ready yet, put you in a dark spot (been there) because they are pretty rough obstacles that are massive hurdles but this was crazy. I guess it's the pressure from being the greatest & feeling you might let down those who depend on you but u can either win or lose in this kinda sport. Ending yourself will let down everyone even worse than losing because you can't make a comeback. You can't ever win again. You lose a fight, you can go cry, flip tables & go back to train for a comeback.
Please acknowledge and recognise that she had lost her sister Victoria, which was great blow to her and get family. The loss of her sister was not only mentally draining, but emotionally and physically draining as well Moreover, after she had a family, her priorities in life would change too. That is why we see many combat sports athletes switching to lighter schedule and less fight bouts when age and priorities caught up with them
This is SAD………………………….. The thing is we did not know how her sister passed for a while, she was VERY Young. When we FINALLY found out, I was like “DAMN”.
Usually when they don’t mention the cause of death it’s more than likely either drug overdose or suicide. If it’s foul play and they have the culprit or something like a automobile accident they’ll usually indicate it
Your sister is always with you Stay strong you now have a family teach your littles the true value in all that life has to offer my prayers are with you and your family 13:33
I know sometimes a parent forces a their own child into a sport they are not into & later on as they get older, they begin to dislike the sport & resent their parents
Watching Angela fight was ELECTRIC. I remember coming across her fight on youtube completely unaware of who she is. The following 20mins, she had me on my chairs end with the finger nails of both hands dug deep into the leather seat as I couldnt release my grip out of sheer excitement and anxiety as I watched her grapple.
Every thing we achieve on earth - fame, wealth and success are temporal. Sometimes one of these may lead to depression. Happiness is what matters in life.
Proud of you Angela. You are a warrior, simply put. You helped put One on the map. Enjoyed your matches and congratulations on your non profit, you are helping a lot of young people and your story is definitely heard !! Stay well and stay resilient, champ !!
My heart breaks. Sometimes I wish I was there in moments like that to say something, to bring them out of it, to save them from themself but I don’t know what can be said or should be said. My heart just breaks.
I wished someone helped Victoria when she needed it. She seems very sweet and kind through out all her interview. Is very sad that our world has lost a kind soul so early to lack of mental health awareness.
Being asian and doing Martial arts its tough. Some asian parents are very tough and expect a lot. Even though some asian don't say you can tell what kid of childhood they lived in. Mainly when you're chinese majority of parents expect too much out of the kids.
That has some truth to it. The level of expectation is higher and the competitiveness runs deep. That parents dislike losing more than the kids and take it as a personally.
This video doesn’t need to exist. Angela Lee has already spoken about her mental health struggles, her sister and her MMA career as a whole. Just go watch that.
She should travel more, i recommend everyone with mental health to travel, not just travel to enjoy places but people, cultures. It will give you wider perspective. You'll see abundance, deprivation, happiness, sadness, safety, danger, hesitant from other perspective. Seeing other perspective can be a therapy for our mentality
I guess we all have different stories. Wrestling and MMA actually saved my life. I'm obviously not a professional, but I was in a very dark place in my life. Wrestling/MMA got me into a gym, got me active, got me training, got me getting hit and hitting others, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed competing. Obviously not on their level and obviously with no pressure like theirs but... it's interesting how it gave me *something* in my life for me to look forward to. I wish the Lee family the best... I can't imagine....
My guess is Victoria Lee probably offed herself in the family gym or something, that's why they closed it down because it's too painful to relive the memory.
I believe the reason is due to the extreme pressure of her Asian parents who also are martial artists. Coming from an Asian immigrant household and observing all my Asian friend's families, many traditional Asian parents have children due to the reason of societal expectation of having children, rather than the desire to love and care for them. Asian parents are quite selfish at heart and raise them to be expressions of success of themselves as "parents", rather than supporting their children in their own interests. Asian parents do this to prove their own worth in the world at the expense of their children, like tools. Many parents do this in general, but Asian parents really take it to an extreme and they do not have much capacity to show expressions of love. Imagine living with your robotic boss at home and not your mum and dad. It explains why the Lee family also closed down their family-owned MMA facility after Victoria's passing. For a lot of Asian children, once they grow up, they desire to meet someone and leave this toxic family culture/household behind and create their own family with more care and love. Angela seems to have done this and gradually left the MMA world after having children and starting her family. I believe Victoria was suffering while competing and suffering at home as well. May she rest in peace.
That is the stupidest thing I ever heard. Putting pressure on children is not a selfish thing. Also, pressure on children to excel and love are not mutually exclusive things. I think that not putting any pressure on children is more selfish and lazy. It is more like an excuse for being lazy to properly prepare your child for an adult life. White parents maybe show their affection and not put pressure on their kids but it is simply because they don't care. So called "loving" white parents end up in nursery homes when they get old, placed there by their "loving" children who also don't care about their parents. Old people ending up in nursery homes are very rare in asian families.
@arystanbeck914 I think you are mistaking what is being said. Putting pressure on their kids out of their own desire to be known as successful parents is very different to supporting their children and giving them their own opportunity and path. If the children felt supported in what they wanted to do, why would they attempt suicide? Because they are mentally weak as MMA fighters? No, it's rather they feel like they are locked in a prison of their parents desires and rationalise that they may never be happy and free. Americans desire for a country of freedom, rather than a country of restriction like North Korea for a reason. Parents bring children into this tough world out of their own desire, not the children's, should they not give them at least try give them a life of opportunity with the resources they have?
@@mc68kf I think you are mistaken if you think that parents who put pressure on their kids do not shower them with love. You are also mistaken simply spoiling kids and over-indulging kids showering with love. I have lived long and have seen a lot of different cultures, and believe me, in cultures or families where kids are required to work hard, look after their siblings, help their parents, those kids grow up less selfish, more understanding of needs of others, more parent loving, harder working. In contrary, in the Western culture where kids are overindulgent they grow up selfish, consumeristic, weak, they. more likely to become drug addicts or alcoholics.
@@arystanbeck914 @arystanbeck914 then I guess you must come from a white family? You won't understand what how Asian families live their lives unless you live it. You can try your best to understand, but at the end of the day, it's more of a life experience to understand. There is a clear difference between supporting and giving them opportunity and spoiling them. You are mentioning two extremes, what is desired is balance. Disciplining is extremely important, pressure is needed but not from the parents own desires of what they want the children to become.
IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HAVING REACHED YOUR DREAMS AND GOALS , MENTAL HEAKTH CAN DESTROY EVERYTHING AND YOU JYST CANT STOP IT TAKING OVER AT TIMES ! IT MAKES YOU THINK WHEN ONE SISTER TAKES HER OWN LIFE AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE AND ANGELA TRYING TO TAKE HER OWN LIFE IN THAT CAR ? WHAT MADE THEN DI IT ? EVERYTHING TO LIVE FOR ! SO SAD ! GODBLESS GUY'S 👊🥊🏴
Agree.. I also think her parents just gave her too much pressure to win. I know her parents back in the days in Canada before Angela was born. They were really competitive in martial arts, but they never won a championship. So, they're trying to make their kids achieve something that they couldn't achieve themselves.
My Respects to the whole family, Angela you are one of the best fighters but this sport is tough on the mind, body and Soul , I am glad you choose your family and Health!!
It's lonely at the top. I would argue that nobody gets there without suffering. Feeling the pressure from all around, its easy to imagine how somebody could feel trapped. I'm glad Angela Lee retired. I hope she can find happiness outside of the sport.
There has to be studies that shows correlation between anxiety of teens in individual sports vs teens in team sports. I think youth athletics needs to be team oriented so that their experience is shared with their peers and supervised by coaches and trainers with training/certification in sports psychology. The PAL boxing team I trained with in my youth enjoyed competing because we (the peers) motivated, cheered, congratulated, and consoled each other during each individuals competition, as a team effort. Parents main focus should be seeing the joy sports bring to their children. If they don't see enjoyment, they should seek counseling and possibly withdrawal from competition.
@@gone.golfing I think the parents failed at Martial Arts(as the video states they were also in combat sports and didnt mention 1 accomplishment of the parents) and they were living through their kids...well that's what I think
My dad forced me to compete in sports I never wanted a part in. In high school, I wanted to go to church and paddle. My father had different plans. Football? I sucked at. Wrestling? I was a natural, but it wasn't for me. The two sports I wanted to play were baseball and basketball, and my mom supported it. Then, my dad (who at the time was separated from my mom) stepped in, and his "training" took all the fun out of that, too. My biggest regret is not standing up to my father about what I wanted and that he needed to stop enforcing his way of doing things. To this day, Im healing on everything my father did.
I am saddened by this tragedy befelling the Lee Family. Huge fan of Christian and Angela, and their presence as stars of ONE Championship alone says alot of how they do in the sports. But their health is and should be the utmost priority. I hope and I really do wish them and their family well, in light of losing their youngest Victoria that they may find the path their taking the better choice. Take care of yourselves, and sane goes ti each and everyone reading this.
You see God did not allow you to take your own life at once but twice because you got a good family you’re a good person. You have a good family on your own that step away. Be happy your whole entire family. We all love you. Remember remember our time will come one day let that happen when the time comes for us to leave this world, God bless you And your family and all your fans
You can torture a child into not being to feel pain and mind control. It happens in high society and if seems like it is done to children to excel in sports.
Im curious if her Father and Mother was part of the problem. Seems like these siblings were pushed and pushed to do great things, and this put extreme mental stress on them all.
It sounds like their parents might be pushing them too much into doing this and that's why they have so many "mental" problems, especially having 2-girls from one family attempting suicide and one succeeding at it unfortunately...so sad 😔
They are such a beautiful family. It’s so sad what happened to Victoria it’s obvious how Angela feels partially responsible since she went through similar issues. Angela has a family now. She got to retire in her own terms and has cemented her legacy. Her little brother Adrian is being coached by Christian (the other brother) and is currently 1-0 with a crazy debut and has another fight in early September.
You need to be around your family for long as it takes. You’re the backbone of the family. OK don’t upset your family anymore or your family or your fans but number one don’t upset God he’ll take you when it’s your time.
There is not a soul that doesn't love Victoria Lee. Wish somebody had talked to you to help you weather this bad moment of your life. You don't need to carry all this on you and suffer alone. Peace.
I think this is pretty positive spin, but this is a horror show run by the parents. What's unspoken is how tiger parenting works in martial art circles among Asians. Look, besides the Bruce Lee and Wing Chun era, dude, no one takes martial arts seriously in the Chinese community. The martial arts scene in America is mainly due to the Hong Kong expats and Taiwan folks that kept many arts alive which barely survived the Boxer Rebellion and other countless Chinese issues that plagued the continent since the dawn of the Black Death in the 13th century. It's kinda like muay thai in Thailand. Only foreigners and old men care about it. It's seen as low class. Flip back to the 808 and the Hawaii scene. Lots of minorities here mixing. Lots of martial arts cultures from Japan, the Philippines, China, Indonesia, etc. And in this mecca and Singapore, the Lee parents thought the winning move in the 21st century was to turn their 3 children into prize fighters. Look, I'm 37, no kids, I just have dogs. But damn, I am not fcuking letting my kids turn into prize fighters. You do not risk CTE damage for money if you're in my family. Period. I will not send MY CHILDREN to do go do what I cannot. I will not send them into a gauntlet of knock outs, TKO's, strangles and blood for mere dollars. I've known some other martial arts families, lots of Portuguese families from jiu jitsu of course, Wing Chun and I even got to know Cung Le's family cuz my girl was a bestie of Cung's sister. I DJ'ed the wedding for the sis, it was awesome to have Cung Le as a groom's man hahaha. Still, brawler culture is dumb. I get that there's martial arts clans out there, 100%. But they're mired in self-destruction and pain, despite the success, cultural impact and general lifestyle. Just look at the Gracie clan. Rockson isn't quite Victoria Lee...but there's just danger in taking a fresh young soul, teaching them only combat skills and turning them loose into the world to fight for mere fcuking dollars. Just ranting. I blame the parents. And it's never about the score at half-time as Tom Brady teaches us, it's all about what you have in the end at the final score. And shit, nearly burying two daughters sounds like you fcuked up dad. Maybe I'm taking too much accountability for this father, I don't know. For K-selected Asian folks, this is an unmitigated travesty and tragedy. You do not send petite well-fed little Asian daughters out there against third world hyenas out there...for rent money.
God bless you kid. I can't imagine what kind of pressure would cause two beautiful talented young ladies to attempt suicide. Here's hoping you find happiness.
Feels like too much pressure to do great in MMA took its toll on them. And it's the biggest reason for suicide attempt and Victoria's suicide. Therefore I understand why they're not gonna be back fighting again. Enough is enough. They lost one precious life already.
Their parents need to be criminally investigated. The children's high drive for high level competition is highly unnatural. They probably got forced to become champions to earn their parent's "love".
God bless the Lee family, I know hard it it’s to lose someone by suicide I lost my daughter 3 years ago by suicide and lost my dad 2 years ago I have thought about taking my own life so many times but I just can’t do it because my wife and son needs me.
Showing us all that success isn't happiness. Happiness is success.
Well said!!
success IN WHAT .... westerns life stile, of happy go lucky and alcohol drugs Atheist's fucking everything that moves ,,, you westerns culture or any other backwards culture is bad
agree
Gay
Being happy is success in itself.
Depression and mental illness is a battle against yourself. I'm glad angela has found the light at the end of tunnel. More power to you sister.
The youngest might be baring even more expectations going after her siblings…..sigh. At least it is hard to turn away from that
Mma matches made it worse.
MMA was one chapter of her life. She was able to retire on her own terms. Wishing all the best.
I paid a guy to watch me sleep. He wound up stealing my furniture and shitting on my kitchen floor. Waste of ten dollars!
@@Redpill-lv4it Sorry, I couldn't help it. 😁
Cte
I'm a child psychiatrist. I met a teenage patient two years ago, who was a rising star in the regional MMA scene. His reason for coming to see me was difficulty focusing. At first, I suspected he had Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. But he declined medication to treat that. Later, he told me about being anxious all of the time. Then, I figured his focus problems were caused by the anxiety. In later office visits, he opened up about nightmares, flashbacks, panic attacks, and hypervigilance. The picture became complete, that he has Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. He didn't have any of the normal risk factors - no abuse, abandonment, financial problems, or other trauma. But the one stressor he had was the ongoing need to compete in MMA competitions. He started attending psychotherapy, and soon after, he decided not to compete anymore. Since then, his anxiety resolved, and he is much calmer. The lesson here is that young people may not be mentally prepared to compete in high-level blood sports. So parents should be careful not to push their kids to compete.
I think a lot of people with degrees don’t know for sure if a patient has anything and they are just shooting in the dark diagnosing conditions and prescribing meds.
seems like the pressure that come with competing do play a big factor here angela, victoria and your teenage client seem to have had this is common.
Well, football players have helmets on, so you gotta think…
@@fnc5369 This is one of the dumbest conclusions ever. The amount of documentation on mental disorders and the characteristics of them are undeniable. Maybe someone doesn't have x y z... but when I was diagnosed with PTSD and I went home and looked into PTSD symptoms, I literally had almost all the symptoms. I would have helped myself a lot sooner by going to someone who could have pointed it out to me.
Sounds like early stage of CTE...
I wish her all the best. She already an undisputed champion during her time. There is nothing more to prove. Well done, Angela!
My heart goes out to the Lee family, unfortunately the mental aspect goes unnoticed when pushed to the edge and living under immense expectations.
🙏🙏
Cte
Martial arts is a lonely game especially when you're injured. Probably better to live a normal life than Martial arts in some ways. And she's a pretty girl missed out on a normal life in some ways
When you have a family of intense competitors, anxiety to excel can overload your mind. That’s what the Lee family found out that’s why they closed their gym and retired from the sport to start a new life.
I am so deeply saddened by the realization that beautiful and talented Victoria has passed. And then to hear that big sister Angela has also been struggling with the darkness that plagued young Victoria is just overwhelmingly tragic. I hope the Lee family continues to work on healing their mind and spirit. Martial Art without spiritual enlightenment can lead to darkness that can be difficult to recover from. I pray for their well being.
I reckon parents should be charged for pushing kids to extreme sports that they dont even like
I think this video painted something that us viewers can color ourselves. How I wish whoever or whatever responsible for their response should be held accounted for.
Cte
I'm from Vancouver and I'm so sad to hear about beautiful young Victoria taking her own life. I've had 2 cousins do the same thing. My heart goes out to the Lee family.
And yours too. Thanks for sharing
As a football player from PW to College to semi-pro, and fighter, I know I have CTE. It drove me to rage, alcohol abuse, depression, and caused a lot of pain in myself and others. Please people, when you see someone that has been in contact/combat sports for a long time, that person has a medical reason, NOT an excuse, for snapping at things to which others may not. I know, NO one should behave the way I did. Not trying to justify, but just trying to bring awareness. I was told CTE affects youth-brains more than mature ones. Victoria may have been a victim of it.
Female combat sports athletes are nowhere near strong enough to give each other any considerable damage. They are not male fighters. This young girl was suffering from depression. And depression is COMPLETELY different to CTE. Completely.
What is a KO but a CONCUSSION. Women KO other women, you do know! Damage also can be done even if the fighter remains on their feet.
@@NoName-zm1ks some guys and even women in Thailand have had over 500 fights and are still perfectly fine.
Watching her fights is exhilarating, but her well-being matters more. Retirement would be a safer path, and I hope she finds peace and happiness. 🥊❤
Cte
I have been through this myself and know your pain. We love you and may you be well the Lee's family.
U mean depression n suicidal? May we know what made u suicidal n depressed? Just like to know the reason(s). Tq
@@aig1111
That's a very personal and private subject you're asking for them to share and they may not be ready to share it With strangers.
Maybe never ready to share it with strangers
@@aig1111weirdo
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I can't even imagine the pain. She's been through the very highs and very lows, I wish her and their family all the best in their future and recovery
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It's really hit hard, when I heard their youngest sister pass way in 2022. I Knew about LEE brother and sister in One Championship, since I'm from Myanmar and currently living in Singapore. As a father, as a sibling, I feel really bad. Heartfelt condolence to rest of the family and may her soul RIP.
🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬 Singapore will have your back and support. Stay strong
NYC ❤.
multiple suicide/attemps under one roof? something going on in that household for sure
Too much family ruving rong time most likely
I don’t mean to point out the obvious but they are Asian
I used to train with her parents before she was born. Her parents were really competitive. However, they couldn't be champions themselves. So, they're pushing their dreams of being a champion into their children. I'm sure all the Lee family kids felt a lot of pressure from their parents to do better in MMA, especially from their dad. They just pushed them too hard.
i think it comes from somewhere in her family bloodline. Genetically. If you have multiple family members having the same thoughts. I seen other cases like this that makes me think this way.
@@CBCNamjai wonder if angela wanted a break of some kind to live a normal life to have kids and the dad pressured her not to. Same with victoria. She maybe wanted a break to maybe go school idk
I met the lee family in 2017 coming from Bruno Tostes BJJ school opening a BJJ in Thailand. They are humble family good people
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Happiness comes from within and not from what you have accomplished because success is temporary and happiness is forever !
The death of her younger sister was the final in the coffin for Angela Lee's desire to compete in mma. Since she became a mother, she was less active.
*nail
She still involved with the mma game. She manages fighters and stuff. But just not doing the training for fights anymore.
Whybwont theybsay how she died? People die. Why the secret?
@@joebudi5136 it was su*cide
I wanna taste her
Such a sad occurance.. I loved watching the Lee family fight.. I wish all the best to them moving on.
RIP Victoria Lee
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Watching One Championship today, I still feel Victoria's loss.
onechampionship not that good without lee. there just basically a kickboxing show now
she passed?
@@David-zv2em unfortunately, she has...
@@David-zv2em Not Angela, younger sister Victoria passed
When you realize all the accomplishments and accolades of this world mean nothing.
that is why children are the real riches. you leave your bloodline to grow.
Not to be cliche but the answer to life is Jesus
@@tanghonah, it's Krishna.
@@tangho lmao lay off the pipe.
@@OSUBoxkator nah its Allah (keep the list going lol)
Very sad for such an amazing fighter, God Bless her n her family!!! We have to do better as parents for our young people and make them realize that bad, isnt really that bad and LOVE is priceless yet the most valuable thing we have as human beings!!!
Crazy I didn’t know how Victoria passed and how Angela tried. This very morning I heard of a friend on mine that also tried this morning and my prayers have been for her and her husband all day long. It’s not easy out in this crazy world. I didn’t know Angela even retired but I can’t blame her she accomplished so much she doesn’t have to prove herself for anything.
Yeap, the anti-vax people jumped on it immediately. And, blamed the vaccine of course.
The family waited nearly 1-2 weeks and didn't announce the cause of death. Even though, it was obviously suicide (reading between the lines of her IG statement).
First I've heard about this. Victoria Lee was beautiful. This is so, so sad.
She was born in Canada but she is a Singaporean.
Just thought I will put this here.
Victoria's death was the greatest tragedy.
Nope, Victoria was born in Wahiawa, Hawiia, USA. Her mother is Korean-Canadian, and her father is Singaporean-Chinese.
@@jamindevera1 i dunno man, i ran a search and the top few sources cited Canada Vancouver.
I miss their whole family.
I pray they all find peace.
Right before I moved from Hawaii in 2012, I had the pleasure of meeting Christian, and later Angela at a church camp for teens. They mentioned MMA almost like it was more of a hobby than their dream, at the time we were all just happy teens at camp. Christian ended up being part of the group within camp we formed, and man when I tell you I remember how kind he was, I'm convinced he was the humblest, and kindest teenager I've ever come across to date. And his sister wasn't that much more different. After camp we all got each other socials, but didn't keep in contact for long. Seeing friends whom I knew are good people, rise to the top of ONE championship over the years gave me a sense of pride and genuine happiness for them. Now I can't help but feel sad for the kids at camp that I remember. It makes me wonder if they even actually wanted to fight in the first place, or if it was something forced onto them. Especially considering how they talked about training MMA like it was something they did to pass the time. It's been so long now that I'm ashamed to check in on them, and don't even know if they remember I exist on their friends lists. I hope they found the peace they've always deserved.
Angela is so sweet. It's terrible that the girls in this family attempt to end themselves, one of them tragically following thru.
If you want to end it, remember the people in your life who loved you. And try to remember that every day you're alive, the haters seethe. The moment you choose to exit, the terrorists win. Literally just breathing everyday is a W over them.
Its very alien to me for athletes to want to end themselves because fighting sports usually save people from depression, self-hate & other demons. It teaches people how to love themselves, builds self-confidence, ignites a will to overcome, etc. I know stuff like making weight, injuries, losing or having to give up the sports when u weren't ready yet, put you in a dark spot (been there) because they are pretty rough obstacles that are massive hurdles but this was crazy.
I guess it's the pressure from being the greatest & feeling you might let down those who depend on you but u can either win or lose in this kinda sport. Ending yourself will let down everyone even worse than losing because you can't make a comeback. You can't ever win again. You lose a fight, you can go cry, flip tables & go back to train for a comeback.
Please acknowledge and recognise that she had lost her sister Victoria, which was great blow to her and get family. The loss of her sister was not only mentally draining, but emotionally and physically draining as well
Moreover, after she had a family, her priorities in life would change too. That is why we see many combat sports athletes switching to lighter schedule and less fight bouts when age and priorities caught up with them
I trained with this family. They are good people
Then why the suicide attempts?
@@itsAniQ mental health problem/s.
@@itsAniQsuicide attempts doesn’t make you a good person? Goofy
@@itsAniQ 🤡
@@itsAniQweirdo
Bro, this hit hard.
So much greatness and such deep lows…I wasn’t ready for the 10 minute mark announcement.
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This is SAD…………………………..
The thing is we did not know how her sister passed for a while, she was VERY Young. When we FINALLY found out, I was like “DAMN”.
When did you find out??
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The cause of death????????????
Fairly recently.
Usually when they don’t mention the cause of death it’s more than likely either drug overdose or suicide. If it’s foul play and they have the culprit or something like a automobile accident they’ll usually indicate it
Your sister is always with you Stay strong you now have a family teach your littles the true value in all that life has to offer my prayers are with you and your family 13:33
I know sometimes a parent forces a their own child into a sport they are not into & later on as they get older, they begin to dislike the sport & resent their parents
My daughter was friends with her at Mililani High school. She was very shy but nice. Her brother Christian is a dork
Christian is a great fighter though
so sad for her and family on what they went thru,...my heart goes out to the Lee family, ..RIP Victoria!!!
Watching Angela fight was ELECTRIC. I remember coming across her fight on youtube completely unaware of who she is. The following 20mins, she had me on my chairs end with the finger nails of both hands dug deep into the leather seat as I couldnt release my grip out of sheer excitement and anxiety as I watched her grapple.
This still hurts as it did when it happened.
She is the most beautiful fighter and the best female fighter in MMA
does Cyborg not exist??
Weili would beat her 10/10.
@@archiecruz6336lol the can crusher?
lol no
May this family find peace and happiness. God bless and find your joy. You are all wonderful human beings ❤️
Every thing we achieve on earth - fame, wealth and success are temporal.
Sometimes one of these may lead to depression. Happiness is what matters in life.
I wonder what it was that drove two sisters to such severe depression. They seem like such a happy and strong family
someone said its abuse from their Father, maybe he's too harsh and strict so they develops mental illness..
@@Molaculesi personally think its the mix of dopamine high and no resolution on how to fix it. And the strictness from the father.
Mental illness is inheritable. Or brain injury. Or simply pressure. Or a mix of the three. None of us are qualified to judge.
@@Molacules *develop
Hate to be cliche but that’s why you never judge a book by the cover.
Proud of you Angela. You are a warrior, simply put. You helped put One on the map. Enjoyed your matches and congratulations on your non profit, you are helping a lot of young people and your story is definitely heard !! Stay well and stay resilient, champ !!
My heart breaks. Sometimes I wish I was there in moments like that to say something, to bring them out of it, to save them from themself but I don’t know what can be said or should be said. My heart just breaks.
I wished someone helped Victoria when she needed it. She seems very sweet and kind through out all her interview. Is very sad that our world has lost a kind soul so early to lack of mental health awareness.
Being asian and doing Martial arts its tough. Some asian parents are very tough and expect a lot. Even though some asian don't say you can tell what kid of childhood they lived in. Mainly when you're chinese majority of parents expect too much out of the kids.
That has some truth to it. The level of expectation is higher and the competitiveness runs deep. That parents dislike losing more than the kids and take it as a personally.
Awesome video. Angela is amazing ❤
Glad you enjoyed the video Enrique! 🙏💪👊
This video doesn’t need to exist. Angela Lee has already spoken about her mental health struggles, her sister and her MMA career as a whole. Just go watch that.
She should travel more, i recommend everyone with mental health to travel, not just travel to enjoy places but people, cultures. It will give you wider perspective. You'll see abundance, deprivation, happiness, sadness, safety, danger, hesitant from other perspective. Seeing other perspective can be a therapy for our mentality
Angela, you got a beautiful family and siblings. Your inspiration and legacy will live on. Much ❤ to the Lee’s family.
PRESSURE = EXPECTATION = FRUSTRATION = ANXIETY = DEPRESSION = EMOTIONAL STRESS = SUICIDE
I guess we all have different stories. Wrestling and MMA actually saved my life. I'm obviously not a professional, but I was in a very dark place in my life. Wrestling/MMA got me into a gym, got me active, got me training, got me getting hit and hitting others, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed competing. Obviously not on their level and obviously with no pressure like theirs but... it's interesting how it gave me *something* in my life for me to look forward to.
I wish the Lee family the best... I can't imagine....
My guess is Victoria Lee probably offed herself in the family gym or something, that's why they closed it down because it's too painful to relive the memory.
I believe the reason is due to the extreme pressure of her Asian parents who also are martial artists. Coming from an Asian immigrant household and observing all my Asian friend's families, many traditional Asian parents have children due to the reason of societal expectation of having children, rather than the desire to love and care for them. Asian parents are quite selfish at heart and raise them to be expressions of success of themselves as "parents", rather than supporting their children in their own interests. Asian parents do this to prove their own worth in the world at the expense of their children, like tools. Many parents do this in general, but Asian parents really take it to an extreme and they do not have much capacity to show expressions of love. Imagine living with your robotic boss at home and not your mum and dad. It explains why the Lee family also closed down their family-owned MMA facility after Victoria's passing. For a lot of Asian children, once they grow up, they desire to meet someone and leave this toxic family culture/household behind and create their own family with more care and love. Angela seems to have done this and gradually left the MMA world after having children and starting her family.
I believe Victoria was suffering while competing and suffering at home as well. May she rest in peace.
I believe her parents pushed them too hard….they must be living in guilt now after 2 suicides in the family
That is the stupidest thing I ever heard. Putting pressure on children is not a selfish thing. Also, pressure on children to excel and love are not mutually exclusive things. I think that not putting any pressure on children is more selfish and lazy. It is more like an excuse for being lazy to properly prepare your child for an adult life. White parents maybe show their affection and not put pressure on their kids but it is simply because they don't care. So called "loving" white parents end up in nursery homes when they get old, placed there by their "loving" children who also don't care about their parents. Old people ending up in nursery homes are very rare in asian families.
@arystanbeck914 I think you are mistaking what is being said. Putting pressure on their kids out of their own desire to be known as successful parents is very different to supporting their children and giving them their own opportunity and path. If the children felt supported in what they wanted to do, why would they attempt suicide? Because they are mentally weak as MMA fighters? No, it's rather they feel like they are locked in a prison of their parents desires and rationalise that they may never be happy and free. Americans desire for a country of freedom, rather than a country of restriction like North Korea for a reason. Parents bring children into this tough world out of their own desire, not the children's, should they not give them at least try give them a life of opportunity with the resources they have?
@@mc68kf I think you are mistaken if you think that parents who put pressure on their kids do not shower them with love. You are also mistaken simply spoiling kids and over-indulging kids showering with love. I have lived long and have seen a lot of different cultures, and believe me, in cultures or families where kids are required to work hard, look after their siblings, help their parents, those kids grow up less selfish, more understanding of needs of others, more parent loving, harder working. In contrary, in the Western culture where kids are overindulgent they grow up selfish, consumeristic, weak, they. more likely to become drug addicts or alcoholics.
@@arystanbeck914 @arystanbeck914 then I guess you must come from a white family? You won't understand what how Asian families live their lives unless you live it. You can try your best to understand, but at the end of the day, it's more of a life experience to understand. There is a clear difference between supporting and giving them opportunity and spoiling them. You are mentioning two extremes, what is desired is balance. Disciplining is extremely important, pressure is needed but not from the parents own desires of what they want the children to become.
What a beautiful woman!
IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HAVING REACHED YOUR DREAMS AND GOALS , MENTAL HEAKTH CAN DESTROY EVERYTHING AND YOU JYST CANT STOP IT TAKING OVER AT TIMES ! IT MAKES YOU THINK WHEN ONE SISTER TAKES HER OWN LIFE AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE AND ANGELA TRYING TO TAKE HER OWN LIFE IN THAT CAR ? WHAT MADE THEN DI IT ? EVERYTHING TO LIVE FOR ! SO SAD ! GODBLESS GUY'S 👊🥊🏴
Chill with the caps.
If they learn to be humble first, when defeat comes it will not be that much painful or frustrating
Agree.. I also think her parents just gave her too much pressure to win. I know her parents back in the days in Canada before Angela was born. They were really competitive in martial arts, but they never won a championship. So, they're trying to make their kids achieve something that they couldn't achieve themselves.
Such a beautiful talented girl. Truly sad.
Incredibly beautiful and talented family. So sad about Victoria, however. R.I.P.
My Respects to the whole family, Angela you are one of the best fighters but this sport is tough on the mind, body and Soul , I am glad you choose your family and Health!!
It's lonely at the top. I would argue that nobody gets there without suffering. Feeling the pressure from all around, its easy to imagine how somebody could feel trapped. I'm glad Angela Lee retired. I hope she can find happiness outside of the sport.
That was really sad I hope someday I can give Angela Lee a big hug...stay strong beauty
Wish her all the best and happiness be with her and her family
There has to be studies that shows correlation between anxiety of teens in individual sports vs teens in team sports. I think youth athletics needs to be team oriented so that their experience is shared with their peers and supervised by coaches and trainers with training/certification in sports psychology. The PAL boxing team I trained with in my youth enjoyed competing because we (the peers) motivated, cheered, congratulated, and consoled each other during each individuals competition, as a team effort. Parents main focus should be seeing the joy sports bring to their children. If they don't see enjoyment, they should seek counseling and possibly withdrawal from competition.
Angela also had what it takes to become famous even outside of the cage, that woman is BEAUTIFUL.
The parents definitely pushed their kids toooo hard
Surprised they let their kids pursue a fighting career.
@@gone.golfing I think the parents failed at Martial Arts(as the video states they were also in combat sports and didnt mention 1 accomplishment of the parents) and they were living through their kids...well that's what I think
Angela Lee choked Stamp out. That tells us how good Angela Lee was besides her two division world champion. Very sad about Victoria Lee.
I can’t imagine the amount of pressure to the youngest to keep up with the older siblings.
Heart breaking story..
What a legend and such a cool mom.
My dad forced me to compete in sports I never wanted a part in. In high school, I wanted to go to church and paddle. My father had different plans. Football? I sucked at. Wrestling? I was a natural, but it wasn't for me.
The two sports I wanted to play were baseball and basketball, and my mom supported it. Then, my dad (who at the time was separated from my mom) stepped in, and his "training" took all the fun out of that, too.
My biggest regret is not standing up to my father about what I wanted and that he needed to stop enforcing his way of doing things. To this day, Im healing on everything my father did.
depression and other mental issues are clearly present in our daily lives this LEE family had its struggles and needed help just like the rest of us.
I am saddened by this tragedy befelling the Lee Family. Huge fan of Christian and Angela, and their presence as stars of ONE Championship alone says alot of how they do in the sports. But their health is and should be the utmost priority. I hope and I really do wish them and their family well, in light of losing their youngest Victoria that they may find the path their taking the better choice. Take care of yourselves, and sane goes ti each and everyone reading this.
You see God did not allow you to take your own life at once but twice because you got a good family you’re a good person. You have a good family on your own that step away. Be happy your whole entire family. We all love you. Remember remember our time will come one day let that happen when the time comes for us to leave this world, God bless you And your family and all your fans
You can torture a child into not being to feel pain and mind control. It happens in high society and if seems like it is done to children to excel in sports.
Love the Lee family. she was such an Angel. we will always remember and not forget you Victoria.
I trained this girl when she was 10 years old. I hope she still remembers me..
The Big Isle Wishes you the best. Stay safe and stay strong.
Im curious if her Father and Mother was part of the problem. Seems like these siblings were pushed and pushed to do great things, and this put extreme mental stress on them all.
Nah. Khabib was probably pushed harder.
It sounds like their parents might be pushing them too much into doing this and that's why they have so many "mental" problems, especially having 2-girls from one family attempting suicide and one succeeding at it unfortunately...so sad 😔
They are such a beautiful family. It’s so sad what happened to Victoria it’s obvious how Angela feels partially responsible since she went through similar issues. Angela has a family now. She got to retire in her own terms and has cemented her legacy. Her little brother Adrian is being coached by Christian (the other brother) and is currently 1-0 with a crazy debut and has another fight in early September.
awesome video
Glad you enjoyed the video Boonie, thank you for the comment! 🙏💪👊
I did not know her sister passed away. I can't imagine how this must've felt for her.
You need to be around your family for long as it takes. You’re the backbone of the family. OK don’t upset your family anymore or your family or your fans but number one don’t upset God he’ll take you when it’s your time.
RIP Blessings to family and friends
Wish you Angela the world and all your dreams come true
These beautiful and talented girls 😞❤
christian is a beast, would love to see him in the ufc
There is not a soul that doesn't love Victoria Lee. Wish somebody had talked to you to help you weather this bad moment of your life. You don't need to carry all this on you and suffer alone. Peace.
I think this is pretty positive spin, but this is a horror show run by the parents.
What's unspoken is how tiger parenting works in martial art circles among Asians.
Look, besides the Bruce Lee and Wing Chun era, dude, no one takes martial arts seriously in the Chinese community. The martial arts scene in America is mainly due to the Hong Kong expats and Taiwan folks that kept many arts alive which barely survived the Boxer Rebellion and other countless Chinese issues that plagued the continent since the dawn of the Black Death in the 13th century.
It's kinda like muay thai in Thailand. Only foreigners and old men care about it. It's seen as low class.
Flip back to the 808 and the Hawaii scene. Lots of minorities here mixing. Lots of martial arts cultures from Japan, the Philippines, China, Indonesia, etc.
And in this mecca and Singapore, the Lee parents thought the winning move in the 21st century was to turn their 3 children into prize fighters.
Look, I'm 37, no kids, I just have dogs. But damn, I am not fcuking letting my kids turn into prize fighters. You do not risk CTE damage for money if you're in my family. Period.
I will not send MY CHILDREN to do go do what I cannot.
I will not send them into a gauntlet of knock outs, TKO's, strangles and blood for mere dollars.
I've known some other martial arts families, lots of Portuguese families from jiu jitsu of course, Wing Chun and I even got to know Cung Le's family cuz my girl was a bestie of Cung's sister. I DJ'ed the wedding for the sis, it was awesome to have Cung Le as a groom's man hahaha.
Still, brawler culture is dumb. I get that there's martial arts clans out there, 100%. But they're mired in self-destruction and pain, despite the success, cultural impact and general lifestyle. Just look at the Gracie clan. Rockson isn't quite Victoria Lee...but there's just danger in taking a fresh young soul, teaching them only combat skills and turning them loose into the world to fight for mere fcuking dollars.
Just ranting.
I blame the parents. And it's never about the score at half-time as Tom Brady teaches us, it's all about what you have in the end at the final score. And shit, nearly burying two daughters sounds like you fcuked up dad.
Maybe I'm taking too much accountability for this father, I don't know.
For K-selected Asian folks, this is an unmitigated travesty and tragedy.
You do not send petite well-fed little Asian daughters out there against third world hyenas out there...for rent money.
God bless you kid. I can't imagine what kind of pressure would cause two beautiful talented young ladies to attempt suicide. Here's hoping you find happiness.
What an amazing human being she is.
Feels like too much pressure to do great in MMA took its toll on them. And it's the biggest reason for suicide attempt and Victoria's suicide. Therefore I understand why they're not gonna be back fighting again. Enough is enough. They lost one precious life already.
But she was good, so good, great fights she gave us.
You can tell the dad didn't have the guts to become mma fighter himself and produced kids that he was grooming to live vicariously through them.
She was gold and I think ONE would not be as big as it is today if it weren't for her.
Seems there's an unknown if both of them attempted suicide. Best wishes to Angela.
Their parents need to be criminally investigated. The children's high drive for high level competition is highly unnatural. They probably got forced to become champions to earn their parent's "love".
pressure from asian parents is no joke lol
something wrong with her parents.
STOP pressuring kids! It's irresponsible
Thank you.
God bless the Lee family, I know hard it it’s to lose someone by suicide I lost my daughter 3 years ago by suicide and lost my dad 2 years ago I have thought about taking my own life so many times but I just can’t do it because my wife and son needs me.