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Sooo now battleships are LITERALLY useless because everything in the game is designed to kill them...
Yes
how in the real history :v
That's why capital ships rarely operate on their own but always in mixed combat groups with escorts. Guess good coordinated teamplay is gonna be more crucial than ever now. Which of course means, on public servers it's gonna be a game breaking shit show!
No, that was the invention of remote-controlled missiles, that killed that doctrine
I have same thought about this... I grinde so hard for bb's and now I regret for that...
The fact you can completely by-pass TDS with the pings makes it way too easy to devastate BBs. Unless DD and possibly CV have some ability to just as easily cripple over-eager subs, this is going to be a bigger disaster than the CV rework.
See, subs do have a "counter." Depth charges. But the issue is, is that dds have to rush in and become floating target dummies in order to do so, but yea. Totally agrre
Trades46 Any ship that fires high explosive shells at sub at periscope depth does damage as long as it lands near the sub.
@@alecwhitaker4011 but until that happens they could have already sunk a BB
@@blueangels111 unless the SS captain really screws up and not nail the the DD charging straight at him using said pings & homing torpedoes to immediately kill him, there's too little counterplay invovled wtih SS.
@@Trades46 true
its from the testserver ( 0.9.4) the replay is a bit buggy like always - ist looking really great on the testserver...but i am not really sure how they going to balance this....... an anti submarine video will follow soon
What do you think about destroyers with hydro (for exemple, like a gaede)? I tested that out and submarines can't do shit if they are alone, they can't disengage and submarine torpedoes are a complete joke to destroyers (in the replay, the destroyer touched by a torpedo was slowing down, at full speed it's almost impossible)
The best to ideas balance subs are to:
Reduce their underwater speed and increase the rate of battery drain by 20 percent every quarter of throttle used.
Make them surface to reload torpedoes and recharge batteries once again to allow surface warships to quickly destroy them iff they overextend behind enemy lines.
Add a gameplay mechanic whereby when the submarine pings or uses the underwater sonar that should be toggle-able any light cruiser or dd should instantly spot them under 3 Km and should send out a warning to every enemy ship that says "Enemy Sonar Detected" "Evasive Manoeuvres Recommended".
they will put anti submarine torps, in the russian ships ofcourse.
*vodka bias intensified*
Submariners have a saying. "There's only two types of ships, submarines and targets"
interesting, Artillery crews have a simmilar saying.
surface warships: ...
submarines: theres nowhere to hide now..
starbattle008 it's Free real State
@@almirante_kiko yup
Except destroyers
Wargaming: We will never introduce submarines into the game.
2020: ОК
Cry more
@@lucasgabriel1590 This is sarcasm bro)
@@lucasgabriel1590 imagine being mad at a joke
surface ship: I can dodge torp
sonar: I'm about to end this man's whole career
*pings intensifies*
Knowing WG we will probably have the typhoon as a soviet t10 premium.
A real Kraken would be in a game that doesn't have bots filling half or more of the enemy team.... just saying
No, a real Kraken would be a giant squid
@@AlexGNR no, a real kraken would be the sub from GTA5
They should give dd's and some cruisers depth charges and CV's sub hunting planes if they are going to add subs like this. These are pretty broken otherwise.
badtz maru dds and light cruisers do have depth charges
@@flallana18 in game? I guess I haven't seen any gameplay of that yet, good to know.
@@flallana18 just saw flamu's vid and he showed a ship dropping depth charges.
@@nadtz 7:07
@@nadtz DDs are useless against subs, the sub simply dives and keeps the DD Perma spotted while pinging which keeps the DD spotted even behind islands and inside smoke, the DD dies before ever dropping depth charges and guess what, they added a depth charge mitigation skill for subs this patch so ones a DD is finally able to drop on you you can pretty much become indestructible for depth charges for a while.... this game will become 100 % FUBAR once the subs are released.
Will they add carriers with depth charges for the planes?
NO
you go to gulag
@@DaManBearPig And who decided that, comrade, now for bad reporting you'll go to the gulag
@@unionsovietica9689 I answer only to glorious balans WG
@@DaManBearPig Carriers with depth charge planes will be unique feature of Stronk Soviet carriers.
nah. why bother buffing sky cancer even more?
*Submarine approching*
Battleship:aw man we gonna die easily
Destroyer :let me take a move
8 Citadel's? Torps that "ignore" anti torp protection? A BB can be citadeled with a bow shot? First, the PR; then the CV disaster; now this?
What is RP ?
@@gliderfs621 its probably Puerto Rico
I feel sorry for those who play with battleships.
I played New Mexico in this, and either the subs were potatoes or something else, because it was pretty easy to dodge the torps
@@flallana18 as someone who just bought a georgia these submarines are going to hit me with buyers remorse i'm sure.
@@flallana18 yes captain, but keep in mind that the player base is not yet familiar with submarines. Once they learn how to submarines it will turn the life of BBs into hell. Specially because the Torps avoid the torpedo belt and go straight to citadel.
Subs will be in a different game mode
Anderson Moreira RIP me! I am a BB and CV main!
The end is near
sure..... time to find another game ....
RIP WoWs. It was good game.
War Thunder Bros
So basically battleships are sitting ducks now.🤦
i better keep my yamato and iowa battleship in the port then lol
No point in taking cover either
All you would have to do is find and take out the submarines and then DDs, CLs/CAs and BBs can start killing each other
(That's if WarGaming goes with it, but I strongly say that they shouldn't)
I played bb on the test
Only one chance for BB to die to the Subs,imbecile captain
I think now the ship realistically will sink and tbe submarines can observe the wreckage ?!?!
Yes they can
Yes, you can see the sinking
Ok can the sunk captain see it too?
@@abdelrhmaneleimy5076 no
What are these pings even for... We don't need auto lock on Torpedoes...
If they had "normal" torps like DD it might work?
And slower and more realistic diving spoeds that would make them more vulnerable and give counterplay
The best part and most fun part about playing in the submarine testing was fightning against the subs not with them.
Citadeling torps are not ok
Dante Redgrave torps can citadel from underneath the waterline.. easily too. The torps are in fact 533mm 🤭
@@marcusess I know. But *Homming Citadeling* torps that can one shot a BB or cut its HP more than half are as bad, or even worse than AP dive bombers. Subs will be cancerous, more so than CVs if this goes through.
The easiest way to balance this is to give subs extremely short ranged but powerful torps. This way subs have to position themselves really close to their targets to attack, and allows DDs to punish over eager submarines.
and add smth that will force subs to surface like air
Unrestricted submarine warfare intensifies!
From now on, DDs will have a more defensive role, and Subs will take over the spotting and sneaking.
Dd's still can't fight subs. It's imba. The depth charges driving right over subs don't deal enough dmg. And once you pass over them torps at close range kill you
@@jenger83 Been finding it real easy to kill them, apart from having to be spotted for 4 km. You don't sail towards the front or the back, but at the sides. You cut across if you end up in front or back..
Battleships belike:why do I heard boss music?!
Battleships in the Screen: YOU DIE
active pinging like the sub is doing here would give out their location to every destroyer in the area.
One way to balance subs it to make so every time the sub pings the destroyer can see it.
And also for destroyers to be able to ping to find underwater subs
Sonar guided torpedoes need to go. Subs do not need them to be playable, and they make balancing more complicated. Sub torps should just be better destroyer torps. Give them better reload, dmg, speed, or concealability; that's all you need for armament. Subs are too slow for them to be sitting in one spot pinging targets so their torpedoes will do damage. Subs should be dumping their torps and hauling ass like destroyers. That keeps them moving which is important since subs are slow enough as it is. Destroyers have already demonstrated that unguided torps can reliably hit targets. If sonar-guided torps have to be in the game they should be used only for sub-vs-sub engagements since only subs can maneuver in 3 dimensions.
Thank you for posting my replay, i'm sure that subs will add more sauce to the game, love from Italy :)
Bravo
Not really. Just destroying the game.
In the end the good player base is slowly withering away. And what will be left is new players who don't know anything and tryhards who like beating their chests by sinking noobs. Seen it happen and i still play a game every now and then that got broken like this, to completely reck new players as all the old good players don't play anymore. But there is no fun in that as i like a challenge. i said i will quit with carriers but sadly i still play with the sky cancer. i'm glad to say that the day subs are launched my fleet will rust away in port and WG will loose a big chunk of their already withering old player base.
A tier 6 vehicle should not be able to do 55k+ damage in a single Salvo... there is no balance in the subs currently
@@marcusess yeah man 35k is no where near 57k
@@marcusess again... no tier 6 ship should be able to do 55k damage in a single salvo
@@marcusess the tops ignore armor and deal citadel damage, that's too op. Period. There's a reason people like flamu say these subs are too unbalanced
miked815 I meant 45k
@@marcusess Did those DD torps home in and follow the ship around that you where aiming for ?
im a new player, was trying to play battleships
guess now ima play CVs, blame wargaming if youre mad
Did you know that the famous type 7 U-Boat was actually called U-96, and not U-69?
TIEFER LI !
TIEFER VERDAMMT !
Das Boot Soundtrack 7 on loop while watching this makes it better.
Nice...
Hahah, goodbye Torpedo bulge armor, Goodbye accurate DD Depth charge, goodbye chances of torpedo duds system, goodbye realism, goodbye WG
WOT got EBR's to break meta, now WOWS gets subs....... GREAT WORK DEVELOPERS. don't forget to add landmines and sea mines next patch.
lol sea mines. at least some humor as this sub cancer will kill the game
Sea mines sound good actually.
What a cluster! All of the standard stuff that the different ships do goes right out the window. DDs scurying to and fro avoiding subs. This has changed the game and not in a good way. Real time strategy... gone.
Bro but its the history the subs just must be here imagine if bbs or idk dds would not be in this game 👍
The real time strategy is gone even since CVs are in the game, now we have more and more fictionnal (especially RUSSIAN) ships, F's in the chat.
(Btw screw people saying "but realism", it's an arcade game not an historical reproduction. Hell it's a game with HP bars, where is the realism)
Ipatchy Makouli all war games use some sort of health bar
Ipatchy Makouli even if it’s “historical accurate “
@@banger2998 So you would compare WoWs to war thunder in terms of realism? I would not. Sure WT uses another kind or HP system, but certainly not a bar from 50k HP to 0 HP and suddenly you sink.
WoWs is probably one of the least realistic war games, there is not even any crew mechanic, just ballistic and more or less armored areas, and pretty ship models. And it's fine as it is. As an arcade game.
But by adding stuff impossible to balance (in terms of stats and meta changes) that just screws the experience, subs or planes can be realistic all they want they don't have their place in the game, same as many ships like Smolensk Petro and many more...
NICE
what a bullshit - sitting in 30m - undetacable and able to oneshoot every other ship in the game - good work WarGaming - this is, what we all wainting for so long time - hope you will bring this vs soon vs possible to live servers - will change the game completly to the best we all want
Nice
Lol 57k for 4 torps hits??? Definetly the game doesn't need this
I bet this fuso had a lot of fun and interactive gameplay
57 K because the fuso ran out of health... who knows how high that number would go if fuso had more health...
10:34 hey, quieto puto te vi xd
10:39 ayayayy, eh con torpedos no se vale, we :,u
11:01 tomele pa que se entretenga xd
To all the people saying subs will be bad 😶: There will be a seperate gamemode for the subs on the live server 🤗
Why not have a separate game mode for CVs as well.. seeing so many agree that CVs are cancer
Hoze M WG is trying to keep their games as historically correct as possible. CVs joined the fleet on the types of missions we see in WOWS often.
@@hozem205 get better at the game. '' cvs are cancer''kid
but nobody wants to play bbs if it stays like this... so you got a server with subs, dd and maybe cruisers.
Carsten H. That’s why they will have a seperate battle for subs
I hope the French will have the Surcouf submarine
Both I think there going to be their 10 premiums
There is play and counter-play to Subs, and it actually works. The problem, once again, are CVs that will ruin said balance because how they interact with DDs/CA/CL now. Remember, the no-fun police will continue to harass DDs at every chance and they won't be able to frontline the attack against Subs just like how they now cannot attack zone caps due to planes.
make subs more vulnerable with limited time underwater and torps with less dmg that can only strike BBs and Cvs might be one of the things to change, DD, CL and CV could have a new consumable.. mines (air dropped in cv case)
Sounds good, but cvs would spend more time maneuvering itself than spreading "cancer" (in your words)
Subs are much more op lmao wtf
@@劉濬-e9c the idea is getting cancer fighting cancer ..kkkk
No, just make the torps NOT auto lock on like who da fuk came up with that idea,
@@miyabe_k195 rofl .. fyi already saw leander dropping death charges on latest panzernacker video on the last minute of the video
wow!
absolutely ridiculous ... homing torps, yeah right in W11. will find another game if this becomes normal in WOS.
dont want to be that guy but.... there were homing torps in ww2;) but i dont like the sub gameplay to much either, going to be hard to balance it
@@TheBaBySiTteR90 ok you are right, but 3 or 4 hundred yards is hardly what we see here.
Agreed. This is just too far. Battleships are rapidly becoming absolutely useless in this game now that planes dds and now subs are broken as hell
@@AR_119 Just like idk.... real life? Why do you think battleships became extinct.
Speeds are all wrong, and the torpedoes are guided? Congratulations to the DEV team in their quest to kill this game.
GREAT JOB WARGAMING UNBALANCING THE GAME AGAIN
MrRiverman81 How? The subs get their own gamemode with people choosing weather to play surface ships or subs.
@@marcusess so there will be a choice if i want to play in a game with subs or not? it wont be like right now you dont have a choice with the sky cancer? where did you see that? cant see why they would give you the option of playing with subs or not.
This is the same company that said subs wont ever be part of the game.....well looky here...
Can’t wait for two years when they balance it again but then they will add something new and unbalance it again
I think its great that they add submarines but if they'd make submarine warfare more realistic it would also bring a lot more balance
I am gona enjoy being a destroyer...
Hell no. If this gets into random battles I'm leaving and deleting this.
Theres a reason why all surface ships are called targets by submariners. If wargaming wants to make it balanced they can limit the amount of torpedoes the subs have. Or make the payout for playing a sub incredibly low. Otherwise gg adjusting to modern combat irl but with less missiles.
Or make it so the subs automatically surface after a period of time. And remove the torp citadel bullshit, like what is that?! And not have the torps home in that hard! You could shoot the torps 120° from where the ship is and still hit it. I mean, I really want subs in the game. Steel ocean got subs right, but got everything else wrong. I don't know how WG messed this up so bad 😂 all they had to do was make it so that the subs would be able to be hit (ie. They had to surface due to depletion of oxygen or something (not to recharge their citadel battery machine which is optional lol))
And on top of that, the deep dive consumable.... Sure that should mitigate some damage, but it better be the case (doubt it) where if a depth charge is right on the money, it will deal a significant amount of damage...
subs should be completely blind while underwater
Actually, I'm changing my opinion. The main game takes up 52gb of data. The test server file takes up 52gb of data as well! And now it needs another 77.17gb of data? That's 181gb of data! I mean damn. I've only got 238gb of usable data on my computer that runs on ssd. I've not played wows since February, but I'm dying for subs to be released. I've got 100,000 free exp ready to skip sub research. They just need to release subs to the main game, it looks alright on top tier's channel and I can't really form an accurate opinion without playing the damn things myself. Subs should've been in the game since day 1.
dillydoe the citadel hit simulates how most heavyweight torps work irl. They don’t hit the ship and explode. They go underneath and detonate, the resulting explosion lifts the boat clean out of the water (look this up on yt its amazing) and snaps the keel, or completely buckling the affected the area, usually both, and thats game over for your ship if that happens.
World of Torpedos... makes the CV retardation look not so bad in comparison.
is that how an acoustic torpedoes work?
This sounds epic with headphones
Hitting the ping is harder than it looks, first time I played I couldn't get a single tag. I don't think BB's will be that much disadvantaged, but in TV & TVI you won't see CA's hiding behind islands taking pot shots anymore.
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U-69 La vache qui rit
This needs SERIOUS balancing
Laughs im graf zeppelin
The poor BB Babies are sooooo scared of getting their paint scratched. A ship class which has over 100K hit points in some cases and they cry whenever something threatens their camping life style. Asashio is more deadly to you BBs and it is in game NOW! Stop camping and play your BB the correct way and you won't have a problem. Camp in spawn to farm damage off enemy BBs while you ignore their cruisers and you will get sunk in spawn.
Looking a hell of alot better than it did last test.
How to fix subs guide:
1. make them slower under water and faster on surface
2. make them need to surface often because of the battery life of the engine and the oxygen level (can stay submerged no longer then 30 sec, depending on consumables and tier)
3. ditch the homing sonar nonsense and make them move closer to the targets in order to mount an unguided torpedo attack
4. ditch the ludicrous underwater torpedo attack, submarines can only attack on periscope depth
Submarine warfare can be done in Android.
Balans has been achieved
was das denn für eine sch.....
3 bis 4 Torps Treffer und der BB ist weg O.o
The amount of BBabys on the forums and in comment sections makes this so much more fun.
I'ma play subs just to annoy the mentally challenged BB drivers :D
I enjoy my negative karma while playing my hakuryu. Just a confirmation that I pissed of allot of the extra chromosome players :D
PS: I'm 100% sure even BBs will get some kind of mechanic to defend themselves from SS.
You sound like a sad person in real life, I feel nothing but pity for you.
No Kraken here, it's a test ship
Not long Carriers will have planes that will be used against subs
ASW has just begun
Subs SHOULD NOT have homing torpedos. They should get deep water torps like the Pan-Asian DD's. You aim like you do with destroyers and crusiers, but by steering with the rudder. Also submarines should not be able to capture points either.
Do USS catchalot next
yes sir - i am looking for uss submarine replay as we speak =)
Panzerknacker thanks
Homing torps from a 1940 sub ! anything but DD's dosent have a chance now
They added a depth charge mitigation skill for some subs as wel, making depth charges do almost no dmg for 1 minute !
@@Aldebarean wow i just read more and more bad news about a game a love. but i will say goodbye and play War Thunder then....sadly.....
If we could see all the ships destroyed at the bottom of the ocean that would be nice
Annnnnd now I need to be escorted by some destroyers for protection from Subs Rip battleships
Looks like WG in desperation is trying to force Submarines into the game. Didn't they say 4 years ago that they won't do that? Anyway, from what I see they are making the same mistake they did with the carriers. There is no actual counter play, and the one that is, is oversimplified and not fun at all. Again, such a wasted potential just to push broken and poorly designed idea.
Maybe adding Catalinas or Sunderlands with Depth Charges and Hedgehog and Squid ASW on DDs
This the end of World of Warship and the beginning of World of Submarine. :-((
not really. in the matches i played the subs rarely got a kill but got killed like flies.
It’s so annoying how OP the subs are they need to nerf the torpedos way down
They really know how to piss playerbase
That's 1 mean Boat I can't wait
I hope these are added to Legends at some point
well i am not gonna mention this video in my clan. they are firmly believer in that subs wont come. and some of the CC's i follow hope(hoped) it would be dead and buried.
my clan have some really good cv players and they dont like that a sub can sneak up on them. thinking the subs will be OP as hell. well cv's for me is OP but they dont think so.
so thanks for this video. it just shows that the subs are not done for yet. and ofc they need to be balanced. buffed or nerfed or both. they learned from the cvs.
Cant wait to get hands on the soviet subs
The era of BBs and camping CVs has come to an end
The era of everything other than subs has come to an end
The first day they show up in regular game play I leave the game.
this game is going to be impossible to play if you are not a DD or a Sub... gonna stop it
Light cruisers have ASW too
I guess I will keep my Bismarck in port then
thats not torpedo,its missile
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Did i missed something where can i play submarines??? Cuz i am playing over steam and there are no submarines is this a beta or only in the original wows launcher available???
They are out now?!
when i looked the moment the video went up they was still not in the game so obviously they're still in testing..
Is it normal?, one strike, one death, idioten WG. How many months they are working with Submarines gameplay, and now they show shit like this.
How can we have submarine ???? Do you glitch or you créateur ut ?
Is this world of warships legends?
I just don’t think they should be added to live server as a pvp aspect. When you look at it they will completely ruin DD gameplay. CVs are already making that a nightmare. There is too much survivabikity with Subs and no punishment for making mistakes
Submarines... RIP wows, will f$#% the game ... i said
Surface speed of over 20 knts and homing torps? WTF has happened to this game?
DDs pinged subs in WWII see movie as an example th-cam.com/video/D4_iSP-Jr-w/w-d-xo.html I watched another video which indicated currently the DDs would not be able to ping the subs in the game. Hopefully this will work out balanced before it goes live.
How come when I go on world of warships if doesn’t have subs
WTF THE CAM