im just glad that the subs i came across where complete pushovers so far. exept that one guy who killed like half my team, but im pretty sure he would have done that in any other class too, so whatever.
@@g.r.senterprisevenatorclas7314 I loved Carrier gameplay in its original format. You had to manage 3 wings of aircraft and your ship from the map screen. At least that's how I played it. Just like an RTS. I loved it! I stopped playing carriers after they changed it. CV gameplay is not enjoyable for me anymore. It feels claustrophobic and restrictive now.
@@zepheth2479 I never got to play it that way. I only got 1 wing at a time, and with the worthless AP bombers for the German's (Since i played them the most) and there wild drop's they weren't any good.
Anyone gonna mention how this dude almost got hit midship by 2 torps at 4:15? This dude either is the luckiest guy ever or has nerves made of steel and a hell of a lot of trust in his playing capabilities. Respect man.
A bit OP in capable hands. (This video, Exhibit A) But if Wargaming is going to come out with OP classes, can’t blame someone who knows how to sail them taking them out.
@@ragnarokinfall8565 right its like saying jordan was op in basketball we need to change the rules so he isnt op anymore hate when people say that not that I am good at it its just you got to pay respect if someone is nice with it.
Very realistic to think that Subs and Carriers took over the waves, each has a weakness but both are truly Overpowered to their contemporaries of the time. They did adapt strategies to combat both but both types earned much respect and fear for good reason.
Like, they wanted submarines. OK, why not.. They already have advantage being underwater and are immune to torpedoes from ships because of the vertical axis maneuvering. So why give them guided torpedoes, unrealistic speed ? According the wiki, U-69's top surface speed was 17.7 knots and this looks like RC model turning in 20 knots. Dealing with them can be only imaginable in clans/ranked. On public, this will be slaughter, because players are not able cooperate on the more fundamental rules.
Actually you would be suprised to know they actually suck ingame so they can get one shotted by pretty much anything u have 2 know how to use them for them to be good
@@RsRj-qd2cg it’s not pay to win, as someone who has experience playing the game it really isn’t. There’s always another ship to counter balance a ship that may seem op
@@MendozaMusic116 Except half of the ships that are better than average are usually locked behind pay walls/loot boxes. Same goes for flags nowadays, ever since they completely removed rewards from achievements
I play Silent Hunter and this is just laughable watching subs maneuver like this. Subs are slow. They are vulnerable. They take 1 to 4 minutes to submerge depending on the model. Torpedos take 5-15 minutes to reload. I can't even think of instances where submarines fought in surface ship/air battles, except for one almost destroying a Japanese carrier at Midway. When subs attacked warships, they usually targeted isolated vessels that were traveling to or from a larger fleet. They would be quite active immediately after surface battles, trying to pick off damaged ships heading back for repairs.
@@liveisnotbeautiful yeah but this will fuck up the balance. Maybe they'll make subs super powerful to get people playing and Nerf them later like they did with carriers.
While I agree that the torps turn too fast I also understand their logic with the torps, subs only have their torps (even though I feel like the subs stealth more then makes up for it) so if the torps don’t have a aim helper they would have a higher skill level then they already do
@@3stackproc835 just give subs powerful torps with fast reload with no homing. basically make them a torp DD with more firepower but more skill is required in order to actually land your hits while having the benefit of more stealth
There were anti homing torpedo systems though, but that was in the cold war I'm pretty sure (and modern days of course) so unless WOWS can embrace a new era instead of staying on the same era they might get some progress done. It's world of warships after all, not world of ships where every ship is built before 1950 at least
People crying about submarines but the best part is, world of warships player level increased after they added submarines, that's why it was taking a bit more time to matchmake because of so many people. Some people got problem in everything that's the sad part they keep crying in every change lol.
well, that was a perfect play of subs, i try subs on ranked and then i just win without me doing nothing lmao, yes it is hard for me... depth charge mechanism somehow interesting
Homing torp, they were called acustic torpedo they track sounds from large ship and go to that direction, was a thing for germans but realistically they need to stop using sonar once lunched cause their was an instants where the torpedo turned around and attacked them instead. Their max range is also 500m.
Everyone complaining about Subs, probably don’t have or aren’t providing it themselves, a proper destroyer screen…destroyer players are going to need to realize, their old role has been taken up by subs, carrier protection and screening for subs is the new destroyer meta imo.
@@HOLO_Enjoyer close the gap. You have 5-15 seconds of uptime on DCP. (Depending on ship) You're also close enough for the sub to spot you (9 km) You know where the sub is.
yeah well it sucks when you cant spot or hit them... but countermeasurements work pretty good aswell. havent seen a sub surviving a depthcharge run yet and thats good :D
I uninstalled when submarines came out, reinstalled when they were temporarily pulled, and will uninstall again when they’re re-released. That ping mechanic is ridonkulously OP and these things are griefer paradise. Once you’re locked onto, there is no effective countermeasure. Give surface ships real working decoys, and all the DDs working sonar or at least hydroacoustic, with Hedgehog or ASROC, then things might be more equal.
because subs were create to fight those ships. and thats why they created the deep chargues and sonars to make useless the subs. subs were usefull in the first day of war but when they make the antisub technology subs starting to kill less and less ships.
@@someguy3276 thats why i dont like much this ww2 games. i want a full battle map with planes, subs, warships, tanks, artillery, infantry in one big battle like a real war.
Can you play rank with USS Nautilus? I saw it appear in Midway(2019) when it approached Hiryu carrier among Japanese fleet, I hope that you can play and review about this submarine more. Thank you very much.
To my knowledge the V boats aren’t in the game yet, they were an older design that was very large, slow, and not particularly maneuverable. They made up for it with large deck guns and plenty of range to act as scouts and deliver special troops
@@johnbeauvais3159 If USS Nautilus was the scout submarine so why USA deployed it to attack Hiryu carrier while Japanese fleet were attacking Midway? This make me feel confused about it
@@XuanKhuongPhan They sent the Nautilus, and several other submarines, out where they expected the Japanese fleet to pass. Hopefully they could do major damage to the force before they were able to push their attack on the island. This wasn’t really the case but it did help slow down and disorganize the Japanese a bit which later proved potent when the dive bombers arrived. US submarines repeatedly spotted Japanese ships as they headed for an AO such as the Yamato going toward Okinawa and the carrier Shinano which was promptly sunk not even 24 hours after leaving port
hey toptier, just friendly tip if you dont know, you can ping on CV's on their astern (chasing from astern). you cant ping them on bow or beams. Hope you read this.
Espere años por que pongan submarinos en WOWS y los "personajes en cuestión no quisieron solo pusieron un beta , y hoy veo este video de solo unas semanas .... me fui a jugar en warthunder para dejar el arcade de WOWS y resulta que ahora hay SS ... es verdad o ??
They should have done a feature for the subs, where the Submarine must surface to recharge its batteries in order to fire again, that way when the battery is empty, it would be forced to surface, allowing players to shoot these things down
In reality when the Type VII subs needed to recharge its batteries they just need to go to periscope depth because they had Snort masts to hide their profile
I don't see how subs are much better than CVs. When destroyers torpedo, you actually _can_ "just dodge" and the DD itself puts itself at significant risk to get close enough, with limited escape options that can all be countered by the right consumables or skillful play. Subs have a much higher margin of safety considering most ships that aren't DDs have extremely limited options for engaging them, and their torpedoes home in. Most of the time it's already too late to dodge if you clear the ping as soon as the torpedoes show up, and if you clear too early you've wasted a 30sec+ cooldown while the sub can just keep pinging away ad infinitum. Not exactly rewarding of skillful play, is it?
Subs can't attack cv's. Subs can't attack while diving. Subs lose their damage if the torps doesn't have two pings. Etc. There's a lot more to it than what's shown in this video.
@@virusproofficial1086 subs can only send out torps while at the surface or at operational depth. When they dive, so that you can't attack them back, they can't send out torps.
@@larsisaksen You can torp while in maximum depth. It's a lot harder and the hydrophone consumable can help to getting an idea of where to ping, but you have to keep depth in mind since the torps still need to rise to the correct depth, so can't be too close.. While preferable to torp at operational, if you're skilled enough you can torp from maximum.
Subs in the game have elevated it from armored checkers matches to more like Chess. Lots more skill and planning an attack than just turning and shooting.
This is boring as hell. But fits my own experience. This subs is a class I’ll definitely won’t touch again. Whoever’s fun with that- congratulations you can keep it for yourself 😉
Ranked these days is boring but not because of the concept of uboats and that they are somehow op. Uboats are quite balanced so far, I'm pretty happy of wg work on them. It's the teams that feel award! Despite the fact that ranked is still ranked and you get to play with good teams 5 times in a row and the rest is bull crap, even decent players don't know or want to adopt to the new battle environment. That's the issue. And last but not list you almost certainly get to have the trolls that yolo like no tomorrow and grand mediocre guys like this one 5 kills out of nowhere.
@@pak3ton Its more alone the lines that only around half of the ships in game have ASW weaponry to attempt to counter subs. So it basically leaves anyone without SOL in trying to fight a class that's completely immune to damage from gunfire when submerged enough
Reverse speed, is way too high. And 4 torps per salvo with 57 seconds reload? Doesnt make any fucking sense. My dog could balance this ship better than Wargaming lmao
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im just glad that the subs i came across where complete pushovers so far. exept that one guy who killed like half my team, but im pretty sure he would have done that in any other class too, so whatever.
You know Wargaming, it was aircraft that made battleships obsolete, not submarines.
Word
That was real life too
I honestly hated the nerfed the Carriers
@@g.r.senterprisevenatorclas7314 I loved Carrier gameplay in its original format. You had to manage 3 wings of aircraft and your ship from the map screen. At least that's how I played it. Just like an RTS. I loved it! I stopped playing carriers after they changed it. CV gameplay is not enjoyable for me anymore. It feels claustrophobic and restrictive now.
@@zepheth2479 I never got to play it that way. I only got 1 wing at a time, and with the worthless AP bombers for the German's (Since i played them the most) and there wild drop's they weren't any good.
Das Boot and Greyhound really proud for this
Greyhound is a maximum shit show concerning reality
@@TimTimONE that movie was so bad lol
after watching Das Boot and Greyhound and eventually going back to the game plays, I feel like that the games can't get more fake
Anyone gonna mention how this dude almost got hit midship by 2 torps at 4:15? This dude either is the luckiest guy ever or has nerves made of steel and a hell of a lot of trust in his playing capabilities. Respect man.
No idea how happy this made me to see someone play it that well
A bit OP in capable hands. (This video, Exhibit A) But if Wargaming is going to come out with OP classes, can’t blame someone who knows how to sail them taking them out.
everythings is op in pro hands :/
@@ragnarokinfall8565 this
@@ragnarokinfall8565 right its like saying jordan was op in basketball we need to change the rules so he isnt op anymore hate when people say that not that I am good at it its just you got to pay respect if someone is nice with it.
So is a DD in capable hands
Very realistic to think that Subs and Carriers took over the waves, each has a weakness but both are truly Overpowered to their contemporaries of the time. They did adapt strategies to combat both but both types earned much respect and fear for good reason.
Correction: They earned hate not respect bcs people know shit how to play a cv and blame them
Like, they wanted submarines. OK, why not..
They already have advantage being underwater and are immune to torpedoes from ships because of the vertical axis maneuvering.
So why give them guided torpedoes, unrealistic speed ?
According the wiki, U-69's top surface speed was 17.7 knots and this looks like RC model turning in 20 knots.
Dealing with them can be only imaginable in clans/ranked.
On public, this will be slaughter, because players are not able cooperate on the more fundamental rules.
in clan sized battles i could imagine that a single sub could wipe the whole team alone
Actually you would be suprised to know they actually suck ingame so they can get one shotted by pretty much anything u have 2 know how to use them for them to be good
@@LONEWOLF109 yes you are right
Me using German DD sonar : evil Patrick face
just another reason for me to find a new game....
I don't even play, I just watch streams because I know it's pay to win. Idk if I can watch anymore.
@@RsRj-qd2cg it’s not pay to win, as someone who has experience playing the game it really isn’t. There’s always another ship to counter balance a ship that may seem op
@@MendozaMusic116
Except half of the ships that are better than average are usually locked behind pay walls/loot boxes.
Same goes for flags nowadays, ever since they completely removed rewards from achievements
Sure no ones stopping u lol
Another crybaby gone, sweet!
I play Silent Hunter and this is just laughable watching subs maneuver like this. Subs are slow. They are vulnerable. They take 1 to 4 minutes to submerge depending on the model. Torpedos take 5-15 minutes to reload. I can't even think of instances where submarines fought in surface ship/air battles, except for one almost destroying a Japanese carrier at Midway. When subs attacked warships, they usually targeted isolated vessels that were traveling to or from a larger fleet. They would be quite active immediately after surface battles, trying to pick off damaged ships heading back for repairs.
cool... its a game
Because it is a game not a simulation and it is fun.
@@liveisnotbeautiful yeah but this will fuck up the balance. Maybe they'll make subs super powerful to get people playing and Nerf them later like they did with carriers.
Tier 6 with 6.5 minutes of battery dive time? Unheard of! He must have some huge captain skills or flags or something! Today the sub gets. 3.5minutes.
yea. how 6 minutes???
Mode ON wolfpack tactic
Can you imagine the uproar if WG gave DDs homing torpedoes! Totally OP especially given how quickly the target pinger recycles.
While I agree that the torps turn too fast I also understand their logic with the torps, subs only have their torps (even though I feel like the subs stealth more then makes up for it) so if the torps don’t have a aim helper they would have a higher skill level then they already do
@@3stackproc835 just give subs powerful torps with fast reload with no homing. basically make them a torp DD with more firepower but more skill is required in order to actually land your hits while having the benefit of more stealth
There were anti homing torpedo systems though, but that was in the cold war I'm pretty sure (and modern days of course) so unless WOWS can embrace a new era instead of staying on the same era they might get some progress done. It's world of warships after all, not world of ships where every ship is built before 1950 at least
It’s like the enemy does not know how to use depth charge
Depth charges was shit 2 year ago...
People cryed and now its OP as fuck.
does anyone else think its a bit silly that the subs have unlimited torps? you could only cram so many in those things.
By that logic, then the whole game is bullcrap because every ship has unlimited ammunition
The torpedo knows where it is, by knowing where it isn't...
People crying about submarines but the best part is, world of warships player level increased after they added submarines, that's why it was taking a bit more time to matchmake because of so many people. Some people got problem in everything that's the sad part they keep crying in every change lol.
well, that was a perfect play of subs, i try subs on ranked and then i just win without me doing nothing lmao, yes it is hard for me... depth charge mechanism somehow interesting
it was not even perfect, enemy sub in the begging practically did nothing then torped and waited to die
Man...I'm a CV main and have been for a while but after seeing your submarine vid...makes me want to play them when I get me a new computer
fun police 2.0
What's your next class? Off map atomic launcher?
@@BzhToine tier 10 subs get icbm's ;D
Lol. Love subs. Can`t wait to see them available on Tech Tree.
Sonar go ping......ping.....ping..... While i am worried about the subs torpedos, the subs themselves seem fine to me.
Ow my……this is soooooo epic!
Whoever thought homing torpedoes was a good idea should get fired immediately
Homing torp, they were called acustic torpedo they track sounds from large ship and go to that direction, was a thing for germans but realistically they need to stop using sonar once lunched cause their was an instants where the torpedo turned around and attacked them instead. Their max range is also 500m.
Didn't even know you could hit citadels with torpedoes.
I uninstalled yesterday. Goodbye sweet game!
Everyone complaining about Subs, probably don’t have or aren’t providing it themselves, a proper destroyer screen…destroyer players are going to need to realize, their old role has been taken up by subs, carrier protection and screening for subs is the new destroyer meta imo.
Why is the sub drifting?
Why is the sub so fast?
Why is the sub posses such clear vision underwater?
So many questions why WG think this is good idea.
balancing xD
no one person will play wen slow as fuck . The fastes Sub was the Typ XXI class with 16,5kt under water
I believe that subs are a bit overwhelming and i am not in favour of the Idea of them being added to random battles
Okay, he was extreme lucky
Nice, the opponent was defenceless.
I guess playerbase unaware using DCP when sub torps almost hit can greatly reduce torps damage.
Yea you do that, get pinged again, then the sub torps you again when DCP is down.
@@HOLO_Enjoyer close the gap.
You have 5-15 seconds of uptime on DCP. (Depending on ship)
You're also close enough for the sub to spot you (9 km)
You know where the sub is.
@@larsisaksen sounds good in theory... but there are also other enemy ships and maybe carriers you have to care about.
@@Abensberg and they have the same problems from your team.
I'm probably going to quit playing regularly when these stupid things hit randoms.
yeah well it sucks when you cant spot or hit them...
but countermeasurements work pretty good aswell.
havent seen a sub surviving a depthcharge run yet and thats good :D
Weak.
I uninstalled when submarines came out, reinstalled when they were temporarily pulled, and will uninstall again when they’re re-released. That ping mechanic is ridonkulously OP and these things are griefer paradise. Once you’re locked onto, there is no effective countermeasure. Give surface ships real working decoys, and all the DDs working sonar or at least hydroacoustic, with Hedgehog or ASROC, then things might be more equal.
That was beautiful
SIMPLEMENTE HERMOSO! MAESTRO
well-done sir
I've been playing for about a week now and I'm at level 13 and I don't see any submarines. Are they not offered anymore?
Wait it's that torpedoes are following the target?
in reality the subs game is hard.
so kudos to him
why does my depth gague look totally different??
Wow new intro. I like it.
"SHuBs ArEh OhP" that potato enemy team was an easily Kraken with any ship
then again this is like tier 5-6 ish so there are not really many skilled player at those tiers
As I'd like to see you dodge tracing torps. Not even destroyers can do that.
@@sethhardy866 8:04 seems like you just need to get good g
@@commondognut oh dont give me that get good crap. I know you band wagon that quote from someone else or from someone that is better than you.
@@sethhardy866 watch the clip loser
Nice
nice
Full on arcade now!
@@ursamajor7468 LOL, wish I would not have been taking a drink when I read this... I lost it all over myself... ROFLMAO!
So why did wg thought including a sub in a game called world of WARSHIP was a good idea.
Technically speaking, a submarine is a warship
@@mjrdanishdestroyer01 but technically speaking warships are just large boats with guns and sub isn't a boat.
because subs were create to fight those ships.
and thats why they created the deep chargues and sonars to make useless the subs.
subs were usefull in the first day of war but when they make the antisub technology subs starting to kill less and less ships.
@@pak3ton yeah subs were created to fight ships but this is a WARSHIP game and warships are big boats with big guns but subs are not even BOATS.
@@someguy3276 thats why i dont like much this ww2 games.
i want a full battle map with planes, subs, warships, tanks, artillery, infantry in one big battle like a real war.
muy bien jugado
Spearfish in 1940 nice
Can you play rank with USS Nautilus? I saw it appear in Midway(2019) when it approached Hiryu carrier among Japanese fleet, I hope that you can play and review about this submarine more. Thank you very much.
To my knowledge the V boats aren’t in the game yet, they were an older design that was very large, slow, and not particularly maneuverable. They made up for it with large deck guns and plenty of range to act as scouts and deliver special troops
@@johnbeauvais3159 If USS Nautilus was the scout submarine so why USA deployed it to attack Hiryu carrier while Japanese fleet were attacking Midway? This make me feel confused about it
@@XuanKhuongPhan They sent the Nautilus, and several other submarines, out where they expected the Japanese fleet to pass. Hopefully they could do major damage to the force before they were able to push their attack on the island. This wasn’t really the case but it did help slow down and disorganize the Japanese a bit which later proved potent when the dive bombers arrived.
US submarines repeatedly spotted Japanese ships as they headed for an AO such as the Yamato going toward Okinawa and the carrier Shinano which was promptly sunk not even 24 hours after leaving port
NICE
he did good cuz its 69
am i the only one who didn’t know torps can citadel??
hey toptier, just friendly tip if you dont know, you can ping on CV's on their astern (chasing from astern). you cant ping them on bow or beams. Hope you read this.
good intro
😊👍
How do you get the water physics to be so calm?
I got no idea how to play subs
Espere años por que pongan submarinos en WOWS y los "personajes en cuestión no quisieron solo pusieron un beta , y hoy veo este video de solo unas semanas .... me fui a jugar en warthunder para dejar el arcade de WOWS y resulta que ahora hay SS ... es verdad o ??
I miss Ocean Steel
Gehe ich richtig in der Annahme, dass man mit dem U-Boot den Zerstörern besser aus dem Weg geht?
keine Ahnung. Warscheinlich schon weil du auch ein Bordgeschütz haben
Just a quick question, I can only cap a point when the sub is fully surfaced?
Yea. I actually really like this feature
When i played WoW there was no option for the Sub class nore did i encounter any. How are you playing as, and against, them?
Subs are only in Ranked and Co Op, not Randoms. You can get a sub through free random bundles in the armory.
Damn this makes me wanna get back into the game
They should have done a feature for the subs, where the Submarine must surface to recharge its batteries in order to fire again, that way when the battery is empty, it would be forced to surface, allowing players to shoot these things down
No
In reality when the Type VII subs needed to recharge its batteries they just need to go to periscope depth because they had Snort masts to hide their profile
@@matthewredman7814 tnx for the info, I read all this in a book
Du bist auch deutsch moin
How do I play with submarines?????
Shift+Del, bye-bye WoWS
What music is in the background?
Man I really dislike submarines. Both playing them and against them. WG pls don't do this....
How do I get a submarine
Love subs.... hunting then down is super fun and I'm undefeated against then this season in rank in my T61! 9-0
Hm why i smell K19 as russian toptier sub?
Lmao
submarine is to agile here. is it still the same?
Demonstrating admirably why subs should not be in the game.
its original soundtrack in game?
The majority of kills are a direct result of surface action. So he is just playing a DD LOL!
Просто красава !
You’re alone in this place, where’s everyone?
Spend to much money on this game so I uninstalled it lmao
69-U
Bro how to get a submarine please tell me 😭
grind xp
I don't see how subs are much better than CVs. When destroyers torpedo, you actually _can_ "just dodge" and the DD itself puts itself at significant risk to get close enough, with limited escape options that can all be countered by the right consumables or skillful play. Subs have a much higher margin of safety considering most ships that aren't DDs have extremely limited options for engaging them, and their torpedoes home in. Most of the time it's already too late to dodge if you clear the ping as soon as the torpedoes show up, and if you clear too early you've wasted a 30sec+ cooldown while the sub can just keep pinging away ad infinitum. Not exactly rewarding of skillful play, is it?
Subs can't attack cv's.
Subs can't attack while diving.
Subs lose their damage if the torps doesn't have two pings.
Etc.
There's a lot more to it than what's shown in this video.
@@larsisaksen who told you they can't attack while diving? They aren't limited like that
@@virusproofficial1086 subs can only send out torps while at the surface or at operational depth.
When they dive, so that you can't attack them back, they can't send out torps.
@@larsisaksen You can torp while in maximum depth. It's a lot harder and the hydrophone consumable can help to getting an idea of where to ping, but you have to keep depth in mind since the torps still need to rise to the correct depth, so can't be too close.. While preferable to torp at operational, if you're skilled enough you can torp from maximum.
@@larsisaksen They can send out toprs whenever they want lol
How do you have Submarines?
Halo bent u duetchman?
I hope they bring subs to mobile and legand too be awesome
Can you use the deck gun?
Only t6 canuse Deck gun and thats a.i. no manual fire 4km Limit
Depth charge was so useless at this time...
Now it's clearly cheated...
Y most fun in any sub was in t6 with the 69(nice)
Subs in the game have elevated it from armored checkers matches to more like Chess. Lots more skill and planning an attack than just turning and shooting.
This is boring as hell. But fits my own experience. This subs is a class I’ll definitely won’t touch again. Whoever’s fun with that- congratulations you can keep it for yourself 😉
7 vs 7 in mid Tier?
The game is death...
this is ranked... there are never full teams like in random
lol WoW has subs now??
Actually want them in the game.. well more than CVs tbh
Same, I'm sure they are gonna be in game after xmas
Love the subs, got over 74k with one the other night! Love the environment but need more practice grabbing better angles.
Ranked these days is boring but not because of the concept of uboats and that they are somehow op. Uboats are quite balanced so far, I'm pretty happy of wg work on them. It's the teams that feel award! Despite the fact that ranked is still ranked and you get to play with good teams 5 times in a row and the rest is bull crap, even decent players don't know or want to adopt to the new battle environment. That's the issue. And last but not list you almost certainly get to have the trolls that yolo like no tomorrow and grand mediocre guys like this one 5 kills out of nowhere.
Are submarines permament now?
Yeah, they just introduced subs into randoms recently
Lol this is more broken than cv in so many ways yikes
because subs were op in the early war when the antisubs was not invented yet.
@@pak3ton
Its more alone the lines that only around half of the ships in game have ASW weaponry to attempt to counter subs. So it basically leaves anyone without SOL in trying to fight a class that's completely immune to damage from gunfire when submerged enough
So many times the surface ships could have shot at him and chose to ignore him.
Don't worry, if carriers are any indication, people will complain hard enough to see them nerfed into irrelevance.
Reverse speed, is way too high. And 4 torps per salvo with 57 seconds reload? Doesnt make any fucking sense. My dog could balance this ship better than Wargaming lmao
Jajajaja Cry more and how many people are excellent with subs?
@@brianalejandro2502 Anda mejora tu inglés en lugar de estar poniendo mensajes como estos en youtube, mi primo de 9 años ya escirbe mejor que tu xD
@@FrankieMankie ahhh bueno señor "escirbe" mi ver#$5 tiene mejores formas de responder y no llora tanto xD?