Food Lies You Believe! - Truth About Protein, Muscle, Alcohol & Exercise For Longevity | Peter Attia
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I’ve got an electrifying episode for you with the phenomenal Peter Attia, where we shatter the food lies you've been told. We dive deep into being protein is the unsung hero for muscle and longevity, debunked myths about cholesterol, and explored how alcohol and exercise impact your health span.
If you think a caloric deficit is key, think again, your blueprint for a vibrant life is just a play button away!
Every minute is an opportunity to evolve. Take action on the powerful strategies you're going to learn today. Build the resilience, the energy, the vibrancy you've always dreamed of.
Plus, get insight into Peter Attia's personal journey, his thoughts on dietary restrictions, fasting, and the influence of insecurities on his motivation. This episode is not just another health talk; it's about confronting the hard truths to revolutionize your well-being.
Remember, it's not just about adding years to your life; it's about infusing every year with quality living.
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Chapter Markers:
[00:00] Food Lies You Bought
[42:01] Before You Drink Alcohol
[1:09:30] Focus Your Life On This
[1:39:53] Stay Young At 100+
[1:57:15] Truth About Cancer
QUOTES:
“The calorie is a calorie debate is kind of a silly one.”
“Those of us who are the biggest jerks to others are usually jerks to ourselves.You’re quite aware of how hard you are on other people when they make mistakes, but do you realize how hard you are on yourself? “
"I enjoy alcohol as much as anybody, but I don't think people understand how once you get beyond one to two drinks, how harmful it is on your liver."
“We suffer so much in our own heads, more than we suffer in any other kind of way.”
“If you consider the difference between a person that doesn’t have type 2 diabetes and someone who does, it’s literally only the difference of one teaspoon of sugar in the blood.”
“High cardio-respiratory fitness and high muscle mass and strength are more predictive of a long life than anything else we know.”
“Living longer is not accomplished by living longer with disease. Living longer is accomplished by living longer without disease.”
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Doesn't surprise me about these food lies, especially when you see all the economic and political lies people continue to believe.
Can you ask Peter about that 60mins episode with the cancer researchers using the polio virus to infect the cancer cells to trigger immune response to the cancer, and if that study is worth its salt? Thanks Pete!
I do appreciate how Peter keeps Tom's interuptions at bay, as much as Tom tries to derail convo, Peter just powers through
It’s pretty insufferable. Combined with zero timestamps make these podcasts hard to watch.
Exactly 💯! This has been a major problem with Tom. His interruptions are very disrespectful to his guests. This is not the 1st time and it's frustrating to listen to the podcast. 😬
My blood pressure went up while watching this podcast. I had to log off before the 20 minute mark. Too bad because the information seemed really good, but the constant interruptions were no Bueno. Hopefully he listens to constructive criticism.
😂😂😂@@Walking_In_Heals
Agree! From all the comments related to Tom’s interruptions you would have thought that he would learn by now?!
05:39 🥩 *Different diets focus on energy restriction for weight loss: caloric restriction, time restriction (intermittent fasting), and dietary restriction.*
13:35 🏋️♂️ *Exercise induces autophagy, benefiting cellular health, and should include both high-intensity and steady-state cardio.*
16:48 🦌 *Wild game, like venison, offers quality meat due to stress-free harvesting and natural diet.*
20:41 🥩 *Peter Attia aims to get as close to "biting into the walking animal" as possible, preferring wild game like elk and deer due to their natural, unprocessed state.*
21:54 🍖 *The majority of Peter Attia's protein comes from meat, with a preference for wild game. He also includes Greek yogurt for diversity and convenience.*
30:17 🏥 *Medicine 3.0 focuses on prevention to extend the period without disease, requiring tools beyond pharmacology, such as nutrition, exercise, sleep, and emotional health.*
33:13 🍳 *Eating cholesterol has minimal impact on blood cholesterol levels. Genetics play a significant role, and differentiating between cholesterol and lipoproteins is crucial for understanding health risks.*
39:40 🍽️ *Peter Attia emphasizes the importance of clarifying the context in the "calorie is a calorie" debate, specifying whether it relates to energy balance, nutrition and health, or satiety.*
40:35 🍏 *When focusing on longevity, not all calories are equal; comparing 2500 calories of Twix bars to 2500 calories of a well-rounded diet can result in different health outcomes.*
42:12 🚗 *Peter Attia discusses the perception of risk, contrasting his sense of safety in a race car with concerns about distracted drivers on regular roads.*
43:20 🍷 *Excessive alcohol consumption, beyond one to two drinks, can have harmful effects on the liver, and people often underestimate the risks associated with alcohol intake.*
45:41 ⚖️ *Peter Attia advocates for intermittent bouts of caloric restriction, expressing the belief that short-term discomfort from occasional fasting can outweigh potential long-term benefits.*
46:24 🔄 *Differentiating between autophagy (cell self-eating) and mitophagy (recycling of mitochondria), Peter Attia explains the benefits of fasting and its potential impact on cellular health.*
51:59 💰 *While Peter Attia acknowledges the challenge of commercializing a test for autophagy, he prioritizes obtaining knowledge about the ideal fasting protocol over commercial interests.*
55:22 ⚠️ *Peter Attia's ability to make career changes stems from his disregard for the sunk cost fallacy, focusing on pursuing what he truly wants to do rather than sticking with previous investments of time or effort.*
01:00:52 🤝 *Openness about personal insecurities and low self-esteem can be relatable and inspiring to others.*
01:02:14 🧰 *Reflection on past life driven by emotional detachment, rage, and obsession; realizing the need for new tools.*
01:06:41 👨👩👧👦 *Personal vision focuses on being a better spouse and father, emphasizing the importance of close relationships.*
01:09:29 🤯 *Questioning the desire for longevity if one is unhappy; highlighting the importance of emotional well-being.*
01:10:24 🌐 *Addressing emotional health involves considering various aspects, including connections, purpose, and self-understanding.*
01:14:15 ❓ *The question of living longer is understandable, but it becomes incomplete without addressing emotional well-being.*
01:17:00 💊 *Malleability of lifespan and health span is emphasized, but taking intentional actions is crucial for positive outcomes.*
01:18:52 🤯 *Identifying potential health threats based on family history, genetics, and lifestyle is essential for longevity. Understanding the "four horsemen" (atherosclerosis, cancer, neurodegenerative diseases, metabolic spectrum) is crucial.*
01:19:33 📉 *While significant life extension beyond the current human record may require technological breakthroughs, focusing on health span through nutrition, exercise, and emotional well-being is key.*
01:20:53 🔄 *Balancing both longevity and quality of life is possible; health span and lifespan are interconnected. People often prioritize health span over just living longer.*
01:21:51 💔 *The emotional toll of losing loved ones can profoundly impact one's will to live. Achieving longevity without meaningful connections may make life seem less valuable.*
01:25:21 🤔 *Metabolic diseases are causally related to the "four horsemen," but not everyone with metabolic issues succumbs to these diseases. It's about managing risk factors effectively.*
01:28:45 🩹 *Precision medicine approaches, like using plasma amyloid as a biomarker, are being explored to manage the risk of Alzheimer's disease in high-risk individuals.*
01:34:07 🏥 *Diet is a challenging aspect to get right for everyone. While it's preferable, drugs may be necessary for optimal health. Drugs are easier to manage and fine-tune than complex diets.*
01:35:36 💉 *Personalized approaches, including lipid-lowering drugs like PCSK9 inhibitors, can be essential for individuals with a genetic predisposition to heart disease.*
01:37:11 🔄 *Rapamycin, initially an immunosuppressive drug, is being explored for its potential in geroprotection, targeting the aging process. However, optimal dosing and usage are still under investigation.*
01:39:26 🔄 *The potential benefits of Rapamycin may not solely be through mTOR inhibition; chronic elevation inhibition and tissue specificity are still unclear. Matt Kin, involved in the Aging Dog Project, explores these complexities.*
01:41:13 🏋️♂️ *To ensure a fulfilling physical life at 100, focus on exercises that maximally load muscles while minimizing joint stress. A new "decathlon" for centenarians includes activities like carrying groceries, lifting overhead, and squatting.*
01:51:19 🏃♂️ *Cardio's role in longevity is discussed. V2 Max, often associated with heart and lung health, is clarified to be more about muscle efficiency in oxygen utilization. Different energy systems need attention, and a minimum threshold for each is crucial as one ages.*
01:54:32 🤔 *Designing a workout routine for longevity involves understanding the injuries that lead to "slow deaths." Orthopedic insights can help in crafting exercises to address both fast and slow-decaying health issues, contributing to a comprehensive approach to longevity.*
01:55:27 💪 *Joint overload is a significant factor in orthopedic injuries, emphasizing the need for balanced and low-risk exercises.*
01:57:18 🩸 *Cancer survival rates have only improved 5-8% in the last 50 years, with recent optimism in immunotherapy and checkpoint inhibitors for certain cancers.*
02:00:35 🌐 *The next 10 years hold promise for cancer treatment advancements, driven by ongoing processes like immunotherapy and innovative drug combinations.*
02:01:44 🩺 *Early cancer detection is crucial, with more frequent screenings like colonoscopies and stool-based testing for proactive intervention.*
02:05:43 🦠 *The microbiome's role in health is acknowledged, but manipulating it for specific outcomes remains uncertain, with a lack of reliable clinical trials.*
02:06:55 💊 *Sourcing supplements is crucial, and the supplement industry lacks the rigorous testing required for efficacy and safety compared to pharmaceuticals.*
02:10:21 🍽️ *Personalized approaches may be necessary for gut issues, as the complex nature of the microbiome requires individualized solutions.*
02:14:02 🏋️♂️ *Peter Attia discusses personal limitations in terms of genes, protein intake, and training intensity, emphasizing the need for individualized advice based on factors like training volume and intensity.*
02:18:38 💪 *Attia recommends considering Dynamic Neuromuscular Stabilization (DNS) and Postural Restoration Institute (PRI) for breath training and proper movement to prevent injuries and enhance stability.*
02:19:07 🏋️♂️ *Attia advises getting a baseline assessment of muscle mass through a DEXA scan to evaluate progress and discusses the importance of setting broader goals for long-term health.*
02:22:10 😴 *Attia outlines the importance of sleep, identifying potential health risks based on family history, monitoring diet, and paying attention to markers like APO B and LP little a for long-term health.*
02:23:04 🔄 *Attia discusses potential dietary changes, including testing the impact of not doing intermittent fasting, increasing protein intake, and experimenting with cycling Rapamycin, highlighting the need for medical supervision and blood testing.*
02:24:12 🏋️♂️ *Attia emphasizes the importance of grip strength, suggesting activities like deadlifting, farmer carries, and maximizing the relationship between grip and shoulder strength for overall upper body strength.*
02:25:07 🤔 *Attia concludes by suggesting that individuals seeking longevity should focus on broader activities rather than specific tests, emphasizing the integration of grip strength with overall upper body strength.*
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Thx man
You should get a job at Toms business to create the video timestamps. Incredible work. Thank you. 🙏👍
@dameanvil Much respect, thank you my man! Saved me 2.5 hours.
I don't know. This show makes me think no one knows what they're talking about. One minute it's this, the next it's that.
You got it ! Every body is different.
take what makes sense to you and do further research on it
A lot of ppl don't know what they're talking about, and a lot of ppl are also very selective with their words, lest they upset some sensitive egos/personalities. I think it's a combination of how we have transformed the way we speak paired with the fact that many scientific people talk with an unbiased manner, leading us to sense ambiguity in some statements
these "experts" change their stance every 6 months due to new reasearch anyway. just eat whole foods, drink water, sleep and exercise. thats enough. dont overthink it
Yep, and now the latest is (even Peter says this) is THAT YOU CAN EAT MORE THAN 30,40,80 GM OF PROTEIN in a sitting and your body will absorb it. But you need 3-4 (?) hrs btwnmeals, to give your body time to absorb it.
Geeezus.
I don't mind Tom’s interruptions as many point, I actually love that this is most a conversation where both are talking very openly. I have listened Peter in many other shows and the dynamic of this show is what makes it fascinating.
Peter Attia you are a genuine person and you are amazing! Well done !
Peter charges $150,000 a year to be his patient, promotes all kinds of drugs and pseudo science when all people need to do his eat whole foods and exercise regularly.
Peter was a**hole in his whole life, I know one when I see one
@@HobzyMcRuseThat's gross of him to do that. Yuck
Peter has a scientific mind, and he knows how to synthesize his knowledge and present it. What I also love about him is that he is not afraid to admit when he changes his mind about something.
He also charges $150,000 a year to be his patient, promotes all kinds of drugs and pseudo science when all people need to do his eat whole foods and exercise regularly.
@@HobzyMcRuse There is a pandemic of narcissism and you cannot trust all these health gurus 100%. But Peter does make a lot of good points and sounds really genuine. I like to watch his videos.
Just a note about the maximum protein the body can digest in one sitting. The latest study suggests that this is not the case and that there is essentially no upper limit to the amount of protein the body can assimilate in one meal, at least for post resistance training.
Hoping another study shows the same!
The study used a high percent of casein protein (slow digesting) so their results are actually expected. Because nobody only consumes high casein protein sources, it's still recommended to spread out your protein intake like Peter mentions in the podcast.
It probably depends on a lot of other variables that influence both digestion speed and protein absorption, e.g. what do you eat with the protein, what types of protein, how fast does your body digest, etc. I bet the individual differences are such that it probably doesn't really make sense to believe that what works for person A will work for person B.
Haven't had alcohol in three years don't miss it or the culture of it
I have not has alcohol in 18 years. I don’t drink kerosene. I don’t drink alcohol. It’s that simple for me.
I started doing OMAD three months ago and I have to admit I have been so amazed by the results I have been getting. I decided to do OMAD for health benefits ( both for metabolic health and emotional health ) , not to lose weight (I am 182 cm and 76 kg - 5.10 feet and 165 pounds ) . I now eat my only meal at 2 pm each day and I am done eating until the next day. Since I started doing OMAD, my sleep quality has improved immensely , my cognitive ability is though the roof, emotional resilience has been amazing, I feel like I have more energy than ever before, I hit the gym each and exercise for 90 minutes ( 1 hour for cardio half an hour for weight lifting ) and I have more energy at the gym than before, the food tastes more delicious, been eating the same food as I always have but now it tastes better in general. What has been the most amazing thing about this OMAD journey has been the feeling that I get especially early in the mornings, complete calmness and euphoria like feeling that last several hours. At age 46 , I am kicking myself that I did not start OMAD earlier in my life, but it is never too late..!
but how is your over all strength?
Similar experience. Almost 2 years. Even build 10kg muscle in one year. Massive strength gains. 60kg -> 120kg deadlifts (5reps).
Has not changed since I started doing OMAD.. Same as before.. @@markothwriter
Wow..That is amazing my man..! Any advice on how to build more muscle while doing OMAD ? @@RelationshipSecretsTV
I went OMAD over a year ago and have same results. I'm 62 and I'm back to High school weight (155#), running 7min/ miles. 21min 5Ks. My wife laughed at first then started copying me.. OMAD works! Meanwhile my kids are taking cholesterol meds.
I want to see Dr.Anthony Chafee or Dr.Ken Barrey on the show SO badly!
You think the people are ready?
I would like to see Peter break down all the poorly constructed carnivore conspiracy theories perpetuated by people like Berry
After over 10 years on self-improvement, the number one thing I’ve come to understand is that I am most disciplined, strong, fulfilled, loving, and present, when everything I do is an expression of a healthy self worth.
I have nothing to prove, not even to myself.
I realise that I am worthy of my own honour and respect, and that of others.
If I’m not treating myself in the best way to honour the highest side of myself, or I’m allowing others to treat me badly, then something is off.
I honour the passions and purposes I feel called toward by diligently working toward them.
I work on myself everyday and reap the rewards, not because I need to so I can feel good about myself, but because guess what, I’m worth it.
I deserve to be happy, healthy and prosperous, so do you.
Beautifully stated. ❤ I feel the same way. Taking good care of ourselves isn't only an expression of self love, but love of humanity in general. We can't be our most helpful to others when we're full of inflammation, sleep deprived, experience chronic pain, brain fog, etc.
@@botanicalbecca8443 indeed, If we have a hatred for humanity, how can we ever love ourselves or others?
Well said....that is my main focus...everything seems to improve...including what I eat how I relate and how I prioritise.
@@AvaniAmore keep aiming up my friend
We deserve nothing. We are flawed human beings who have sinned against God. The idea that we deserve something suggests that other people deserve their wretched lives. Let’s be thankful that God is merciful.
Really good stuff here, about protein, fasting and excersize. Fantastic, thank you gor bringing him on, such legends both of you.
Love how you challenged him on the cortisol in the meat from the stress of the animal. Good job 👍
Love Peter. Clear, useful, helpful info! This is one of your top 5 podcasts/videos for sure
Peter charges $150,000 a year to be his patient, promotes all kinds of drugs and pseudo science when all people need to do his eat whole foods and exercise regularly.
Thank you! Your channel is so helpful!
It's amazing how much information is packed into these episodes. It's why appreciate TB's interview style. #NaturalCuriosity
Love your interviews
The conversation around change at 54:43 seems the most high value section of the whole interview.
I did sense some frustration in Tom in this interview because he thought he had everything figured out and here comes Dct Peter changing his mind about "things". I dont think there is a right way of doing things that is standard for everybody and there is a lot we dont know just yet. It migght sound redundant but probably the best thing to do is to stay active and to eat whole foods, best cooked at home. I have recently came to the realization that if something hurts I have to start digging for a cause. I am 41 and just now started my wellness journey. I am only 41 but I feel like I have ignored my health so much that now I have a lot of work to do....kids, career all took #1 spot....not anymore. I cant help others if I cant help myself.
As a nurse, I have enormous respect for you Dr. Attia. Your work on spearheading the paradigm is so appreciated. But your ongoing self-growth stands out…..WOW! Thank you for taking such a risk in your journey that is a model for all.🫶
What does you being a nurse have to do with anything and why do nurses always have to tell us they're a nurse?!!
Dr. Attia charges $150,000 a year to be his patient, promotes all kinds of drugs and pseudo science when all people need to do is eat whole foods and exercise regularly.
This is incredibly informative! I will relisten to this many times!
wow YES YES YES!!! Amazing podcast, pure value here
Most people focus on the nutrition, exercise and science that Peter shared in this interview. Even if I always get a lot from listening to him on these aspects, the last part about drivers and insecurities hit differently for me. I 100% identify with his drivers and when he says " when your playbook is working harder and it stops working", that was me in the last 12-18 months.. Terrific interview, thanks for the conversation
I really admire how the content is not only educates but also prompts viewers to reconsider their perspectives on holistic well-being. Your dedication to delivering informative and impactful content shines through, making it a must-watch for anyone on the journey toward a healthier lifestyle. It brought to mind the enlightening discussions my life coach Lisa Haisha had during her transformative retreat in the Philippines. Lisa often explored the relationship between nutrition, well-being, and longevity, aligning seamlessly with the topics discussed in your video. Her teachings emphasized the importance of holistic well-being and making informed choices for a healthier lifestyle. Thank you for consistently providing such valuable and thought-provoking discussions! 🙌
Ohh! The immense knowledge that I am learning! Highly detailed and clear!! Well done!! ✨🌟✨
I agree so much with not doing the same thing and going after what you really want to do. I’ve been in that mindset for about 5 years now and don’t see me changing that. It has made me healthier and it has drastically improved my life
Certified trainer and biologist here, albeit not currently commercially practicing in biology. There is plenty of great information in this video!
Though regarding doing one thing in your life, whether this be caloric restriction, intermittent fasting, or elimination of a given micronutrient, you may still get cancer and be gone in 6 months. Thinking this simplistic way about health, disease, and your life is just that, simplistic. Perhaps a key is to focus on what you want not on what you don't want, living a life based on appreciation, joy, and love rather than letting fear based thoughts and energy overtake your moments.
I find these conversation awesome, fascinating, amazing 👏, very informative ❤❤❤
I like these compilations; Tom has years of content that I could never watch 5% of it. I went through a progression of a lot of these methods to actually figure out how to improve my diet and fitness. The water fast is LEGIT, I did a 21 day fast and alleviated the pain in my back completely. It's not that bad, and you can have water with lemon, sparkling water, coffee and cinnamon.
It depends also about geno- metabolic typings...everybody is/ reacts different..🎉 thanx for those beautiful infos..🤩👏👏👏
Don’t worry about what you don’t know… If you are a righteous person and a truth lover, truth will be revealed to you! 💯❤️
Woah. The "change frequently" section was EXACTLY what I needed to hear at this moment in my life. Thank you..
I've listened to a lot of Peter podcasts that he's promoting his book, and this one the conversation is just different and better. thanks guys! amazing interview and Peter amazing as always MEDICINE GOAT
Tom, you are my favorite podcaster because you are a smart smart guy, and have a lot of knowledge about most subjects. I like that you challenge your guests when things they say just don't add up. You interview exactly the way my own mind works.
Agreed. Tom's reaction to Attia's ignorance of the importance of the microbiome as a treatment vector is endearing. He is very good at communicating counterfactuals without being argumentative.
I love your podcast Tom,thanks God bless you all
awesome. this is one of the best health videos i've ever seen.
You know when you listen to a lot of someone when you can predict what they're going to say! About 12 minutes in I bet myself that Peter would say "in mice"! Spot on!
Am going to buy your book Sir Attia Peter thanks to both of you❤
I disagree with the omad amino statement. New studies show that there is no upper limit to how much protein can be absorbed in one sitting. This was a human trial as well.
We can absorb all of it, but only so much can be utilized for functions such as muscle protein synthesis per unit time
@maesterdrew8606 it's much higher than previously thought at the very least. In the study they used tracers to track all the aminos and where they went in the body; and they also preformed frequent muscle biopsies. Thomas delauer has talked about this study and had some expert on who talked about it as well. The think is, protein is used for so much in the body, including neuro transmitters that muscle protein synthesis shouldn't even be at the top of the concerns. Our bodies will use it as it sees fit. Many things other than protein consumption affect muscle protein synthesis. If we need to synthesize more protein for muscle building in the aftermath of a workout I'm sure it will ramp up that processes without changing a thing.
@@BillyBulletPewPew
Oh yea I heard from Dr Lynne Norton discussing that new study
@@tsebosei1285 I think that's who Thomas had on; right?
@@BillyBulletPewPew yes that's him
Love this will try ASAP..
Thanks a lot. Did you share the whole recipe pls?
Thanks..❤
I think Dr Fung would disagree with him especially due to insulin spikes caused by eating multiple times a day and Dr Fung also mentioned muscle mass does not go down from fasting. Doesn’t growth hormone go up during fasting? And yes, to starving out cancer and halting cancer fermentation by eliminating glucose & glutamine.
and what about High Intensity exercise being stress inducing 😩 cortisol spikes 🫣😅
All depends on what you eat for insulin spikes
The insulin is SUPPOSED to spike , but come back down in a timely manner..the body is designed that way. The problem is when the spikes don’t come back down properly due to metabolic issues/ diet choices
@@SHERLYNTORREScortisol is an essential hormone. Healthy individuals can handle spikes just as we can handle glucose spikes.
Im 21 minutes in and im kind of shocked how quickly Peter changed his mind on fasting. I wish they'd make it clear that the protein consumption 4 times a day is specifically for muscle growth and not overall health. I rather be healthy than muscular been fasting for 5 months and hypertension, diabetes are now all at normal levels.
muscle growth will affect longetivity. But i get your point, coz i have diabetes but lost lots of weight & now much lower muscle. Im 60 yrs old.
Great podcast 🙌
(at the start of the video) Well, I think some key components are being missed or conflated here for why people do time-restricted eating (with diets like keto, paleo, carnivore, etc): for most it is about reducing the effects of prediabetes (and reversing it; often as part of keto or similar; often as a life style of proper eating, sometimes as part of reducing fat along the way); giving the pancreas a long rest period (as part of eventual restoration of insulin sensitivity); whilst eating better fuels rather than high glycemic index foods (often as GMO grain based carbs and/or sugars products) as a high percentage of one's diet. What body builders do isn't really going to work as evidence of what is "good heath protocols" since they're often VERY young; and, so, their bodies (pancreas and blood vessels) can suffer a lot of abuse (which may not seem like abuse at the time; i.e., eating foods that damage the endothelial system leading to forming plaques and hardening of veins/arteries - having a decades of chronic high A1C and bad HOMA-IR results) before showing problems later in life (diabetes and/or metabolic syndrome). We can look at many older body builders and see that they're getting obese (such as Eddie Hall); and a lot of them are having health issues later in life (some times resulting from steroid use; a common thing amongst BBs). This whole thing with body builders really needs more research before we can say what is nutritionally "a proper human diet" across the human diet spectrum.
My boy Tom is afraid of death like on a whole other level
autophogy during the winter hypertrophy during summer I think is a better model for longevity for HUMANS. Stop eating at sunset.
There is a new study (Dec 2023) that seems to debunk the cap on protein post workout. Curious to hear what Peter Attia has to say about it. Great content and always.
ya i also find it hard to believe that when you got multiple championship body builders eating upwards of 600g of protein per day
@@Craftsingles1 that's not an argument.
Scientists, sportsmen and inventors made a looot of stupid stuff in the past.
@elijahwhitmore
Yes, I was just thinking about this. I forget whose interview I learned this from, just recently. (Possibly Chris Masterjohn
Or some other PHD...i just don't recall rn)
Since Peter Attia has a reputation for keeping up on all the newest studies (with possibly the one exception of nutrition, however) - I'm kinda thinking this interview with Tom was done prior to this discovery.
Yep. He’s wrong
@jeffnunn4733 I wouldn't say he's wrong...so much as that he's either not updated on this recent study - OR that possibly this interview was done before this (very recent) study on protein was published.
Hello from East Tx
His comments on only having 40-50g of protein available in one sitting has very recently been in serious question. New study out about specifically this seems to lean towards there not being a limit
Sure, but it terms of optimizing the release of amino acids throughout the day to feed your muscles, you would want to spread the protein out. There is definitely an advantage to 4 protein heavy meals a day, then even two ridiculously huge meals. Less discomfort, and good luck eating 100 grams of protein in a sitting along with all of the fats and carbs you would need. It's common sense really..
What I think people are missing is that huge protein intakes for a bodybuilder are going to be utilized completely differently by the body than the same protein intake in a 65 year old 100 lb sedentary woman.
@@willow05agree whole heartedly.
This is goal!!! Thank yoU!!
Thank you, Tom. Impact indeed... 😊
I like what this guy has to say!
10:00 they're talking about protein and the max in one sitting being 40-50g. I was taught 20 years ago that there's a window straight after exercising where you can take in more protein, and I'm hearing there's recent research which supports this. I'd love to hear Peter's take on this point.
Tom, humanity needs you and Elon around as long as possible. Glad you got to speak to Peter to get you on the right track. As always, love your content. Thank you for being you. (And Lisa!)
Wish Elon would get into some level of fitness.
Peter is legit so amazing. So honest
Peter charges $150,000 a year to be his patient, promotes all kinds of drugs and pseudo science when all people need to do is eat whole foods and exercise regularly.
Fasting and keto diet together and learning how to behave on food is the key to staying lean year long.
Till you develop hyperglycemia eating 2-3k calories once a day
@@marsenault9683 what does what he said have to do with 2-3K in one meal? you can fast 16-8 or 18-6 and still get the benefits
You can stay lean no matter what if you’re in energy balance, as in not consuming more calories than BMR + calories burned in movement. There are many benefits to maintaining healthy glucose levels, but there’s absolutely no need to fast or eat a ketogenic diet to have a healthy body fat level.
The dark side of intermittent fasting that few people talk about is hypoglycemia. Also eating one time a day 2000 calories is going to mess with your blood sugar and your insulin. (Think insulin resistance from one massive insulin dose daily) Some people develop hypoglycemia from fasting and they never return to normal
I ate once a day for 9 months and I developed hypoglycemia but fortunately after 3 months my body went back to normal. (After going back to eating twice a day in about a six hr window) But I found out for many people this is not the case
Be safe and reasonable people. Dont mess w your health. You could regret over-fasting!
omad is a type of intermittent fasting...there are plenty of others that dont do that. Also they say you should never do the same type of fasting continously. You should constantly be changing fasting times and hours.
I don't see this hypoglycemia (low blood glucose) being a common thing in time-restricted eating when doing a proper human diet; such doesn't (or shouldn't) cause large releases of insulin; and most of us doing time restricted eating as part of a low carb life style don't have issues in our labs and have lots of energy (being it from ketones or glucose made by the liver). Ken Berry and others address this nicely in some of their videos. Long last carbs fuels often result is our NOT wanting to eat lots food in general (certainly not 2000 calories in one setting). The people I know do time restricted eating as one or two small dense food meals (high in fats in some cases) before their main meal (when ever that may be for them; be it ketovore, paleo, keto, carnivore).
@@Chippoka Ok. Its never been said that.MOST people experience hypoglycemia issues
@@jeffreyd508 yep, that's why there is not some sort of "dark side" of time-restricted-eating. If it happens, then it is likely because of bad choices of what to eat.
The liver usually produces the necessary glucose after doing OMAD for 1-3 months.
Dr. David Sinclair talks about neuglucogenesis.
Peter giving great information on getting your daily protein. When I don't get all my protein from meat. I also have full fat vanilla greek yogurt 20g of protein and mix in a protein bar. Quest chocolate chip bar has like 21g of protein. That's 41gs and it's very satisfying and tasty.
The 24 pack of the Venison sticks is $119. 5 sticks in 1 shot would be $25 not including tax and shipping for the average consumer lol.
Yeah, he always finds a way to promote those things. He often talks about eating 5 or 10 everyday. That's $25-50 a day or $750-$1500 a month. It is ridiculous, I don't care if they hire Seal Team 6 to take them out from a stealth fighter. I'd also love someone to ask him about the completeness of his grass-fed venison protein vs whey protein powder that is
@X85283 I think it's highly likely that the only reason those specific bodybuilders can assimilate all that protein in one sitting (as you mentioned) is due to the steroids/gear/hgh/etc....
@@ghost9-9ghost
Nope...has zilch to do with what your 'faulty' logic suggests.
@barbarafairbanks4578 nope...pretty sure I'm correct...when people take steroids/gear/hormones they ar me radically changing their metabolic state in many ways...
You're just wrong and uneducated.
He also charges $150,000 a year to be his patient, promotes all kinds of drugs and pseudo science when all people need to do his eat whole foods and exercise regularly.
Toms gonna be enjoying breakfast again 😂
The Dr GOAT
" warm bucket of hampster vomit " God Peter!! Decorum please !!!
I am seriously surprised how knowledged and science based Peter Attia is. Great to hear him.
Then you really need to subscribe to his Podcast. Amazing. Also Andrew HUBERMAN.
@@kathleenmahanwilliams7491Huberman is a quack
Doc is a great fan of Senna! Nice hat, great memories Doc!
2:20:30 It's possible you don't have a trap injury problem. As discussed a few minutes earlier it's possible (or likely?) it a spinal problem -- facet joint pinching soft tissue, perhaps disc or some other dysfunction. Muscles are pretty resilient and you usually know quite clearly when it's the muscle itself. A muscle tear happens quickly and you can feel it, but it's pretty rare. You can overwork a muscle which results in soreness some hours later, lasts a couple days and usually gets better in a linear fashion and what you're describing doesn't sound like this. It could be a tendon or ligament which gets tricky but my [uneducated] guess is vertebral or perhaps something with the ribs.
it's curious that so rarely while talking about intermittent fasting experts mention compatibility with eating disorders. For example for those who have troubles with emotional eating / dieting / restriction issues / yo-yo effects throughout their life, which I guess there are so many of them (of us), it's simply another system of restriction. I ended up with another obsessive focusing on food, on counting hours, on eating elefant last intake portions ("because after I'll have to fast during minimum 12 hours. Or 16. Or 20 even better").
A domesticated ruminant that has a diet that is VERY similar to that of deer is the goat. Try to find a farmer who makes sure their goats are getting the proper balance of forbs, grasses, legumes and stalky woody plants. Look at the spring, summer and fall videos on my channel for an example of the type of environment you want to see your goats living in and eating on pasture.
Hi Tom, thanks for all your valuable content. Please consider interviewing Bashar, and also Gary The Numbers Guy. Salute
Not sure how old the second part is but it's interesting how much healthier he looks when he's more enthusiastic about fasting and metabolic flexibility... Which I presume he was practicing more readily at that time
Damn, those venison sticks are EXPENSIVE! $125 for a box of 24 sticks, so eating 4 a day as a snack they would only last 6 days! I have no doubt they are worth every penny, but I would guess that is way out of most people's budgets
Dude has Ayrton Senna's cap on. Respect! 🇧🇷
"In mice"
"But mice will die within 3 days of not eating"
"Well that's bad" 🤣
@tom bilyeu This episode was an autophagy nightmare! Can you push forward with a future episode on this topic? I'm sure autopahgy is one of the primary reasons we all IF, and to think that we are not hitting it at the 16-18ish plus hour mark is painful to hear!
Brilliant gentlemen! Bravo. Top five dead or alive, Mr. Bilyeu.
Sometimes I am surprised at how "surprised" Tom gets with nutritional info shared with him by experts. Peter has been speaking about these topics for awhile on different popular health-focused podcasts.
Tracy Anderson Method for longevity exercise!
Seems like a lot of work, I don't doubt care in diet puts the odds in favour of longevity, however similar to being attractive, it's a genetic lottery. My partner's grandmother is 94 years old, eats the same meals as everyone else, has a few alcoholic drinks at social events, and is fitter than some people half her age. She recently broke her wrist pulling out plants in the garden, had to go to hospital, they tried to find her medical records but she had none, they asked when was the last time she needed medical attention, she told them it was at the birth of her second daughter 70 years ago - all the doctors and nurses in the ward came to her bed just to have a look at her. Her wrist healed in a few months, you can't tell she was ever injured. Granted she is very slim but her older sister is obese and is still alive at 96 years old.
My now 15y dog 3,5y ago developed fast growing mammary tumor of fist size, enlarged lymph nodes,had surgery and since then 2 days a week she water fasts without any health issues.For me its pretty clear evidence of autophagy.
I do my own experiment.intermittant fasting and keto diet and 45 hours a week of fasting my ketones go to 2.8 and this week my glucose was 60...i do take berberine when i eat..
Please interview Dr Anthony Chaffee - many diets are too complicated… Dr Chaffee keeps THE HUMAN DIET SIMPLE!!! ❤❤❤❤
Biochemistry everywhere are going blind from how hard they're rolling their eyes
2:18:35 I haven't really explored PRI yet but I think this could be a very important tool (for me and perhaps others).
Rapatha almost killed me. I was becoming short of breath walking 15 ft. Stopped taking it and 3 wks later was back to normal. I felt like it was causing heart failure.
Happy Freeday all
Can we get timestamps? Is that too much to ask?
I’ve been asking this for awhile… i don’t know why he won’t
4 ALL DIS GUYS VIDEOS!!!!
Interesting discussion but I actually suggest you both “overthink “ everything on diet and health! Relax!
Peter, you're such a gangster in how you take the time to explain these complex concepts to all of us normal folks.
???? i remember seeing parts of this video a month ago???
What is the venison stick brand that he recommends?
Dude! Tom i actually love how you conducted thos interview!! First,you are full of genuine curiosity. Second you ask thr bedt follow up questions. Third, you're willing to embrace change but fourth not quite too much when things dont add up or are contradictory.
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What about the level of sodium in the wild deer jerky?
4 x 40g of proteins, what about managing insulin response to help reduce weight during fasting?
I love Tom, but my God, it’s completely all about him!!!! Maybe that’s why he’s successful? I don’t know. But I am now laughing openly at Peter getting to something profound & interesting, and universal- and Tom interrupting and saying, “no, no, this is about ME specifically.” Ha!!! Anyway, Peter still gets his message through. But uh… wow. Very revealing about Tom. 😮 I still enjoy it. People show their cards. It’s fascinating.
We are all here bc we relate to his level of neuroticism in some way
Not sure the snack belongs in the diet. Our ancestors would not have carried about snacks to me its fast and feasting. Kerry gold butter on good Irish beef. A 72 hour fast every week. No booze and a little Cocoa and exercise intuitively.
Interesting to note Peter's involved in the snack Venison company.
Dr Gabrielle Lyons just explained a new study that is very good on protein and you can take up to 100 G at a time for muscle protein synthesis
There's lots of hype about APO-B, and while it is generally the best predictor of heart disease risk LDL tends to track pretty well with APO-B levels for 75% of people. Generally if you have high LDL, you probably have high APO-B. If you have normal LDL, you may still have high APO-B.
I did intermittent fasting 3-4 hours windows for a years and much regrets... loss ton of muscles.
me too!!
A master at his craft, but also a marketer 😉
Peter $150,000 a year to be his patient, promotes all kinds of drugs and pseudo science when all people need to do his eat whole foods and exercise regularly.
@@HobzyMcRuse I agree