Who is Melchizedek: Who was Melchizedek and why should we care?
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- Who is Melchizedek: Who was Melchizedek and why should we care?
There is a question that comes up here on youtube all the time "who is Melchizedek?". Sometimes its from the Mormon church that believes they are of the Melchizedekian order, and sometimes it's from people hanging out on the Jewish Mysticism side of Wikipedia. But how do Protestants answer the question "who is Melchizedek"? Well, in this episode of Remnant Radio we will be tackling the Melchizedekian mystery. Is Melchizedek Shem, Is Melchizedek Jesus, or is Melchizedek a pagan priest? Hope you guys enjoy the discussion!
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This is really good! Enjoying with my hubby!
Sounds like you've got a great Husband. 🕯️❤️
I talk to Christians with a variety of backgrounds, and I get confused about what following God and reading Scripture is supposed to be about. On the one hand, I come across people who have the mindset of "major on the majors, minor on the minors", AKA focus more on the central and important parts of the Bible and faith and be flexible with the stuff on the fringe. Then I come across other people who make claims that there is so much more to the Bible that the Church doesn't talk enough about, and make it sound like God wants the Church to mature in our understanding of this deep, mysterious, spiritual stuff. So when I come across Hebrews 5:11, which says "About [Melchizedek] we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing," does this mean that Melchizedek is a fringe topic that the Church doesn't need to spend much time on, or that there's something super profound about Melchizedek but the Church is not mature enough to understand it? And as for me as an individual Christian, what's most important for me and my faith? I've wondered the same thing with other mysterious OT stuff like Enoch, Nephilim, Leviathans, numerology, etc. -- should we analyze these things for deep spiritual truths, or are we better off focusing on other things?
Hmm. Those are good questions!
They are in there for a reason.
There are many things that go way deeper in the bible.
I feel all of them have helped me with a greater understanding of the bible.
I was actually thinking about starting a series on "truths of the bible why it matters"
But Yes Enoch all 3 books a Must clears up so many many questions.
Nephuilliums 100%, learning about the giants.and how they were created help you to understand that angels missing with humans Was a big no no in God's eyes. That is why He flooded the earth.
We also know it says in end times will be like the days of Noah (Noe) and what are we doing now?
Mixing and changing thr DNA just like they did.
Now learning the truth about how Satan really seduced Eve, and anyone who truly knows their bible knows it was not with an apple.
To me this is the most important "truth" to understand because see the truth is God "created" man so he was a creator. Satan wanted to be like God so he wanted to create man.
Well he couldn't because there is only one creator and that's God, so he had to have sex with Eve to create "abel" and than Eve had sex with Adam creating "Cain"
They were born one right after each other if you have eyes to see when reading the Passage about their birth.
You notice God has favor with Cain, not Abel. You notice Abel is the evil one.
So we learn alot of things here we learn that Satan spend his life even today trying to "mirror" God because he can never be God.
We learn that Satan is less than God always was always will be.
Another great one is learning it was God who allowed Judas to betray Jesus. When you read the Text you see how Jesus controlled the whole situation from the time he allowed Satan to Enter Judas to the time Jesus "controlled" Satan to get out.
Which shows Jesus has and always will have complete control over Satan
So yes learning the truths are very important to know. There are some scriptures where preacher have preached saying the Scripture was talking about the antichrist when in all reality it was talking about Jesus.
Best thing is to test every spirit, ask God to show you the truth and to repent and ask God to clean your heart of sin daily.
Time is running out, stay in His word and keep looking to Him for answers
Ask God to reveal you the Truth. The Truth will set us free. Like what time we are in ? The mark of the beast ? Are you worthy to be bride of Jesus ? Are we to keep the commandements ? Who assemble the Bible ? The Bible is the Word of God ?
If you search with a sincere heart, God will reveal all things to you.
The Truth may not be what you want it to be or except.
God bless you
This could quiet possibly have been the best video not just for The Remnant Radio, but out of all youtube ever. I mean, I won't really know until I actually watch it...but it could've been!
Maybe not the BEST ever, but it was very good. If I had been in the chat (no longer most Mondays :( ), I'd probably ave had a blast. :D
@@VeryBasicBible Lol, humble 😆
Great show guys! Thank you!
Fascinating topic! Love the discussion. Thank you for your awesome content! PTL🕇
About "father's nakedness" and such like it, check out Lev 18:8, 20:11, Deut 22:30, 27:20, Eze 22:10. And the surrounding context of each verse, of course.
Very interesting! Thank you for talking about this. Excellent info!
I’ve often wondered what Melchizedek’s role was in the Bible, thanks for doing this one! Great study.
Fascinating discussion and subject guys. Kudos! Shoutout from the Uk 🇬🇧
Michael Heiser actually makes the argument that uncovering his father's nakedness could mean that he slept with Noah's wife (or his mother), R-wording her. The euphemistic language would indicate that, as well as the curse falling upon his son.
See the wording in Leviticus 20:11, NASB: "If there is a man who sleeps with his father’s wife, he has uncovered his father’s nakedness.
@@hogbenfan Hmm. That’s really interesting and seems to fit well.
Also see: Lev. 8:17.......
Greetings. Did I hear Joshua saying something about us not knowing who currently belongs to the tribe of Levi? If so, here's something you guys might find interesting and wish to research further. On Page 137 of Arnold Fruchtenbaum's book 'Footsteps of the Messiah' (2018 revised edition) he says that everyone with the surname 'Levi, Levy, Levin, Levine, Leventhal, Levinson, Cohen and other comparable names' are descendants from the tribe of Levi. They are the only tribe that can still be currently identified by their name and this is important because when the next temple is built, the Jewish people know who they can call on to come and fulfil the role of temple priesthood. Fascinating eh? Quick point: I'm not endorsing Arnold's book which emphasises the pretrib rapture view, I'm just quoting it in relation to the surname thing which, if true, is an interesting fact. Adieu mes amis.
God bless you for this channel!
Amen!
Malkizadek has always intrigued me!
I'm gonna listen to this on my road trip in the morning.
I have some personal theories about who and what he was.
We shall see what comes!
So, what did you think of the talk?
@@betrion7 haven't listened yet, that's today
@@richoverlin9290 ah, sorry - I'm in Europe so it's afternoon 😊
@@betrion7 it's 5:45 here now and I'm about to hit the road!
@@betrion7 I listened to the pod cast. Sorta solidified my beliefs. Modified slightly, but right down the track I was heading with my thoughts!
This intrigued me. Learned lots I didn't know. Now I must go digging😁
I love it when stuff is explained and thought through and brought up...but then you find more little paths of exploration.
@@VeryBasicBible Exactly. Like, I kinda feel like Josh dropped a bomb that I need to find out about. What did he mean about the first born elect thing?
Interestingly, I just spent 5 hours a couple of weeks ago researching this very topic.
A song that breaks down the book of Hebrews and mentions Melchizedek (and even at one point refers to him as Mel…) - check out Hebrews Rest by Maxfield and Katherine (not trying to self promote but this crowd would probably appreciate the song more than most!)
My Jewish friends and I agree usually this is Shem but I am not holding a monolithic view. This title is an office. Great topic and listening in for the great show and discussion.
I would love it if you guys interviewed Jim Staley or Rob Skiba! Or someone else from the Messianic movement!
Yes, please! There are so many good ones!!
You should listen to Michael Heiser’s theory about ‘Noah’s nakedness.’ He makes a compelling case that it was Noah’s wife.
That's interesting. Can you share a direct link for the teaching?
Search the Naked Bible Podcast 159
Because of the wording of Leviticus 18:8, 20:11 I have thought the same thing. Perhaps Canaan was a product of incest.
Yep, they missed that - thanks for mentioning it. It's a good teaching.
Loved this discussion/debate; this is one of the reasons that I watch 90+% of what is posted on this channel. While watching you guys at 48:45 triggered a huge question for me in relation to a theological hobby study of mine. I am working on building an intelligent way of presenting this question; I am not really sure how to present the question to you all either and due to time constraints and laziness (I guess) I can't search for a means to do it right now. Perhaps could someone respond with guidance? (HINT: related to the discussion from 48:45 onward, but substituting "Sasquatch/BF" for "Alien(s)" because of theological similarities (in my mind, anyway) of the two in my "hobby" study.)
Do you think sasquatch is demonic?
@@coryc1904 I am undecided at this point, although I am leaning that way. Biblically, I am focused on beings spawned by the fallen angels and those men who made plans to smuggle their idols into heaven via the Tower of Babel as the source of Sasquatch creatures. The men at the tower were thwarted by GOD and turned into some sort of creatures which could have been bigfoot type creatures. (translation of Book of Jasher is unclear in my mind..)
Father's nakedness means father's wife for crying out loud 😂
Why do you think that?
@@Alex.Kalashnik Because the Bible (Old Testament) says THAT ie: "Don't uncover your Father's nakedness. That could mean his own (personal) nakedness or his wife"s).
A helpful book in understanding some of the background to this is “Eternity in their hearts” by Don Richardson
GOD bless both of you
You guys are awesome.
Talking about first sons failing, Adam came to mind..
You cannot have an adequate and fair discussion about this topic without reading and discussing Dr. Ken Johnson's book The Ancient Order of Melchizedek. He deals with the scripture, the Dead Sea Scrolls and the 11Q Melchizedek document in the scrolls that deal with who and what the Order of Melchizedek is. It is the most scripturally grounded discussion and teaching on the subject.
I know Mike Heiser has done some great work that has helped those of us in the church that are hungry for a deeper understanding, but Heiser has become a near cult following by too many that take him more serious than the scripture and DSS. I pray for him and discernment for all that they give Jesus the glory and not Mike.
I love this show
As far as the Noah ham incident, Michael Heiser really has a great breakdown of what actually in trouble they happen they didn’t have anything to do with his father but his mother
What does that mean, that first born can't be elect?
Thanx, Gentlemen 🌹🌹🌹🌹
Before being born again - I watched The Office twice, had the same shirt myself, after being washed in the blood - I burned it in a fire with all the other illuminati merch I blindly wore.
“An ounce of obedience is worth a tonne of knowledge.” -Spurgeon
Was thinking the same... God bless you
Dr Michael Heiser does a study on the issue of Ham and seeing his father in the tent. His conclusion is that it is an euphism for his father's wife. This offers an explanation as to why Ham's son was cursed and not Ham. Caanan was the result of an unholy union.
Interesting, I had a dream in which I work I was discussing about co-workers who read the Bible, part of the response in the dream, I had told my co-work that she was reading the Old Testament the book Melchizedek. I understand there is no book of Melchizedek, but I am finding it extremely interesting in the context of this discussion and my dream what that may mean. This co-worker is a believer, but I am not sure if she follows a Catholic belief or Christian.... IDK but interesting discussion, thanks for the topics
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the meaning of Melchizedek is the true King in Arabic today Melik is king and sadek means truthful . both words are still used ; just for the listeners info .
In the septuagint, Shem died well before Abraham, and scholars argue that the Masoretic, copies that are way older than the septuagint, evidence a Jewish change in order to argue against the writers of Hebrews,
Uncovering your fathers nakedness is having 'relationship' with his wife. Cain's son was cursed by Noah for Cain's son was from Noah's wife.
Pretty simple and straightforward.
Logical, except what’s the basis fir the claim? In the biblical passages about prohibitions on uncovering nakedness it refers to specific people, not their spouses.
@@Alex.Kalashnik Leveticus 18:7 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father, which is the nakedness of your mother; she is your mother, you shall not uncover her nakedness.
Exactly, that's why he cursed Hams son.
You may have to take a dive into Zadok generation. To get a clear understanding on way King David had him as High Priest over Abiathar?
I think that Hebrews makes it clear that Melchizedek is Diety. I have 2 theories on this subject. Either this is a Christophany, or this is the Holy Spirit. Think about Christ; He was born of the Holy Spirit, He was annointed by the Holy Spirit, He was led by the Holy Spirit, He was led to the cross by the Holy Spirit, He was resurrected by the Holy Spirit. And Jesus is the High Priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.
People really need to study and see that wine was not made after the fall. Like really was there a sin that those whom God judged where drunkenness escaped. Wow smh
The graph is wrong. Shem didn't live to even see Abraham. Septuagint has the correct genealogy. Confirmed by New testament. Between Eber and Selah there is Cainan. Masoretic excludes Cainan and shaves off 100 years from everyone, and 50 years from nahor. If you read Jesus genealogy Cainan is included. So Jesus confirms the septuagint.
Melchizedek is a Watcher.
Hey, I’m the oldest. Whatcha saying…😳🤣
Wow boys, this shows how easy it is to convince anyone of anything.
11QMelchisedek in the dead sea scroll indicate that Melchisedek is the reprensent of God and His Army and He may be called El or Elohim...
We know who is the reprensent of God, who is the Son, who will be coming on horse to make war at the final end...
God bless you
Just had an evil ad too, in between writing that comment, for some game called Magic, tag line was, ‘Become what you fear” ….made by so & so Wizards, harvest moon this and that. Get thee behind me Satan. Might get off this platform all together. Bitchute and Rumble are where it’s at, we gotta improve those platforms.
i have watched some podcsts from a hybrid female under lizzard hybrid housewife. She states Jesus was a hybrid along with many of the kings, created by the Sumerians. is anyone aware of her podcasts? in trying to understand because i have seen someones eyes change shape from cat to comono dragon to lizzard and back to human. i have also seen someone with a birdcage chest and someone that has 3 rows of teeth like nephillum. She states that there are texts that talk about the creation of man being done by two diffrent species and each trying on their own to create and could only do so together as sepertate they created abominations but together they created a functioning person or species. ill come back and if anyone tht is mich wiser than I help me understand all this because she says thats where the Adam and Eve story comes from. I would like to understand were humans already existing and they then hybridized us or are we created from this alpha Draconian female and Palladian male?
Maybe you can read the genesis book. Adam Eve was created then was excluded by God because they sinned. And have to sons, Cain and Abel, Cain has killed Abel and was exclude to the north. Then Adam and Eve have Seth and others daughters and sons. There is theory that Cain was the son of satan and Eve and Abel the son of Adam and Eve. So that is maybe explanation for the two species...
Ask God to guid you call on His name because Jesus saves no other god can save you from your sins.
God bless you
He was Seth.