That's not how fuelx maps are working. You took this logic with stochiometric ratio in ideal conditions. But in real scenario, all EFI engine have ecu controlled fuel delivery and an oxygen sensor in exhaust pipe to take feedback of how the combustion is happening. Stock ECU controlles the same thing. What FuelX does is gives you a control to tweak that ecu settings by overriding it and fooling the ecu by Bypassing the oxygen sensor input. Due to this we can tune the engine combustion as per our needs and driving conditions, altitude etc..
Thanks for that, this explanation is not accurate on the fuel X, earlier there was a product called booster plug which tricked the ecu into believing it's running lean and thereby making the mix rich, the fuel x play with AFR again tricking the lamda sensor it's rather confusing what this guy is trying to explain,seems.like he is convincing himself
He is also saying the same thing but in a confusing way. It's just his inability to explain things clearly. He says when we are in different altitudes, our engine ecu also controls the fuel air mixture ratio. But we can twerk this ratio as per our likings using the fuel x pro. He literary says that when in high altitude oxygen level is low, so the engine ecu will adjust the fuel intake but we can keep the fuel x at 1 or 2 settings for best output. He is mostly just saying which settings are recommended by the company for best output in different conditions. That's all. So basically you both are saying the same thing.
Bhai I have a issue regarding my 2021 Himalayan. I have driven 1700+ kms and 1st servicing is done. Still the problem is that it is giving 18km mileage in city. Can u please tell what is the issue ? 😞
I have a BS4 Himalayan and considering getting the fuelx pro. Any compatible issues with the BS4 Himalayan? Also since you said there is noticeable difference in power, what about fuel consumption? Any reduction in mileage? If so how much did it reduce by?
Yes it does affect the fuel efficiency but I won’t be able to comment as to how much is the difference as I haven’t tested it yet ..will come up with a video soon 👍
I do not agree with explanation, how does excess fuel keep the chamber/engine cooler? And if the air fuel mixture has changed then it shall burn more rapidly I think. Nah, certainly the fuel x must work differently.
latent heat of vaporization as the tiny droplets vaporize. Its not recommended as it forms soot and unburned fuel emissions. Modern engines are solely designed for emissions, not power. By installing the new ECU one is avoiding the adaptive feature of stock ecu which takes time to learn the users riding habits.
Hello brother i have a yezdi scrambler as u know that yezdi bikes lacks engine smoothness and fuel efficiency...and it give jerkiness all the time... Will this lite version of this product hell me with all those problem keeping the original air filter and exhaust?? Give me ur opinion on this
Yes you can definitely use it with the stock air filter and exhaust. Coming to smoothness I can’t assure you on that. You may find mild enhancement on the performance but not out of the box experience
Bhai does a lite version for interceptor suffice after adding an after market air filter and a slip on? Or do I even need it as the stock ecu might adopt to the condition of air intake and maintain the ratio.
A bike's stock ECU will adapt to aftermarket exhaust or filter only if it's a closed loop control system. All the bikes in this segment are open loop system.
Bro I heard on a RE forum that on the Classic (not sure about Himalayan) the ecu doesn't remap becs they are using a basic sensor which only has a one preset, so using free flow may harm. What are your views? Should I or should I not change the exhaust system or would this device help?
Very Informative video so far 👌. I own ktm 390 adventure. Planning to do a full system exhaust. I am also planning fuel x pro, BMC air filter, Powertronic ecu. I hope it doesn't damage my engine drastically. I think this ecu is smart enough to adjust to the changed engine conditions 🤞.
I too use fuelx pro on Bs6 Himalayan. Try riding on 5th and 6th map in city and 7th & 8th on mountains you will feel the difference ( just a suggestion as I use these mapping, suggested by a pro mechanic and biker) It changes the experience.
Bro.. in my himalayan 2021 I am facing some power lag issues only @ low rpm range - 1700 to 2900 but post 3000 Rpm it's smooth, will this fuel pro X work for me?
Hi bro ..I cannot assure you about the power gain coz I didn’t feel much of a difference in power after installing it ..so if you are looking forward to install this for power gain then I will say it’s not worth it
Hey - informative video. Quick question, my Himalayan is an year old , does installing a Fuel X or a after market exhaust void the vehicle warranty. Pls advise
Now that totally depends upon the service centre..if they want the will find an excuse to void your warranty. Incase you have a good relation with the service centre people then I believe it won’t be an issue
Mr. Lama, guess some of the basics of internal combustion needs to be corrected. It's not the amount of fuel that decides the power generated but the amount of air (oxygen). The cool engine, less stalling and less downshifting is resulting from a richer mixture because of less power delivered to the wheels. Of course there are so many aspects that go into this discussion. But good headstart. Many people will benefit from your video. Full marks for bringing it out. Well done. Cheers.
@@sudiptochatterjee3527 The fuel that goes into the combustion cylinder is a mox of petrol and air. This mixture is in gaseous state which is done by the carburetor or Fuel Injection system. This mixture of fuel+air will after all have to be in some ratio. Right? Rich mixture is more fuel and less air. Lean mixture is less fuel and more air. The mixture has to be optimized for best performance. Too much fuel can stall the engine. Remember we used to say, "overflow ho gaya".😁 Trust I have answered your question.
@@SSR_ARENA I trused myself thinking I have replied to you SSR. But I Don't see my response. First, thank you for your appreciation. Second, I am a teacher. Earlier I was in merchant navy service. Later I joined maritime education. I teach electronics. Ship operations related.
Due to emission laws, most bike will run lean in the closed loop (the part where the o2 censor is used.) using the fuel X will give the bike more fuel in this rev range.. So yes, the miles/kilometres per gallon/ltrs will be effected. Your bike will not go as far. But on the plus side, it will run much better.
Thanks for the video, nice explanation with the white board and 0-100 time list. I am looking this for my meteor 350, and i think I can pay extra 2k for pro+ since it claims more power. Thnks bro
Bhai aapka Delivery mast hai lag raha hai ki aap knowledge se bol rahe ho prompter nahi pardh rahe ye acchi baat hai i am watching your first video and with in 10 mins i am a subscriber
If more fule is put the temperature raises and oil is not included in compression ratio you really need to get bacis drawing and concern to say what you trying to say
Bro I'm using Red rooster in my meteor at times i felt some powerloss like vehicle getting down and now i have added BMC filter is that enough or should I add fuel x pro
@@AvishekLama bro I'm already worry about my bike mileage which is dropping due to frequent valve noise incorrect valve clearance at times please suggest me the best because already invested 15k for the exhaust and filter.IF it's a must go product sure I'll go for it please suggest me bro
Guys let me give you very tech nd pratical info, Himalayan engine is LS 411, Long stroke specially designed for long rides cruising nd to have more torque to climb on hilly areas, by adding extra after market parts like imported filters, exhaust etc you can expect 5% plus thats it...by installing these parts you cannot expect a rocket performance, I shouldn't be comparing but just a hint even a bajaj company bike can take over Himalayan (Dominar) though its not that greatly succeeded... The Himalayan was discontinued bike after BS3 because of too many compliments nd issues in the bike there were 3 cases filed by customers for the bike not to proceed further, later everything was rectified and relaunched again as BS4 in 2017 as EFI ...in BS6 customer still have complaints, thats the reason by 2024 September Himalayan 411 will be discontinued, since 450 Himmy on the way nd 650 Himmy in pipeline...these engines are brand new for these bikes, Not to forget thats the only reason interceptor 650 engines are designed by UK, France, tech gaints...you can experience the refinement in those engines....
@@Hsp44 bhai mere. Petrol kuch bhi thanda nahi karta. Engine cool karne ke liye alag oil aata hai. Liquid cooled engine me - coolant. Oil cooled me oil. Air cooled me air. Petrol sirf aur sirf combustion ke liye hota hai, uska aur koi role nahi hai.
Bhai open loop, close loop bhi samjhata....ye bas open loop me kaam karta hai aur iske maps only richen the fuel as you go on increasing the digits...there are no maps nothing...it just richens the fuel that too in a close loop...na iska mujhe decel me kuch farak laga na ye open loop me bhi sahi se kaam karte hue dikha...misled marketed product laga mujhe ye jo fueling ko control katai hi nahi karta isse acha to booster plug hai
@@DAILY_FACTS_TREAT hahaha meri jarurat kya hai tujhe pata kya hai be itna gyaan nahi bat ke tujhe joh knowledge hai wohi likh deta toh do log koh kaam aata..lecture dena aasan hai karna muskil nahi ho payega tujse toh chup reh
@@AvishekLama youtube chod de asan nai hai to...audience ko samj h nai ara content aur gyaan baat raha idhar.....aur comment me mai akela nai hu jisko nai smja....kisi ko nai smja tu kya logic present kr ra....homework kr k aya kar pehle bad me audience ko gyaan dena.
my right ear feels lonely. gotta fix that microphone configuration...
Oh yes really sorry for the the inconvenience..I have already worked on that issue
Use mono audio, i did 😂😂😂
That's not how fuelx maps are working. You took this logic with stochiometric ratio in ideal conditions. But in real scenario, all EFI engine have ecu controlled fuel delivery and an oxygen sensor in exhaust pipe to take feedback of how the combustion is happening. Stock ECU controlles the same thing. What FuelX does is gives you a control to tweak that ecu settings by overriding it and fooling the ecu by Bypassing the oxygen sensor input.
Due to this we can tune the engine combustion as per our needs and driving conditions, altitude etc..
Thanks for that, this explanation is not accurate on the fuel X, earlier there was a product called booster plug which tricked the ecu into believing it's running lean and thereby making the mix rich, the fuel x play with AFR again tricking the lamda sensor it's rather confusing what this guy is trying to explain,seems.like he is convincing himself
He is also saying the same thing but in a confusing way. It's just his inability to explain things clearly.
He says when we are in different altitudes, our engine ecu also controls the fuel air mixture ratio. But we can twerk this ratio as per our likings using the fuel x pro. He literary says that when in high altitude oxygen level is low, so the engine ecu will adjust the fuel intake but we can keep the fuel x at 1 or 2 settings for best output. He is mostly just saying which settings are recommended by the company for best output in different conditions. That's all. So basically you both are saying the same thing.
Bhaiya is it possible to use both powertronic ecu and fuel x pro simultaneously
Kuch performance me increase hoga kya??
Not worth mat karo
You're a blessing for us Himalayan owners.. Thanks a lot!
Thank you for the kind words 😊🙏🏼
Can I use this fuelxpro and bmc air filter or will there be any harm to engine ?
No it won’t coz I am using BMC filter fuel x pro ngk spark plug and haven’t faced any issues yet
@@AvishekLama is free flow exhaust must with bmc air filter with powertronic
Nop but having it will add on more power
@@AvishekLamais ngk spark plug worth using?
Yes though we won’t feel the difference but that little chap is doing it’s job very efficiently
Bhai I have a issue regarding my 2021 Himalayan. I have driven 1700+ kms and 1st servicing is done. Still the problem is that it is giving 18km mileage in city. Can u please tell what is the issue ? 😞
No idea bro..u can get in touch with the re people and share your issues with them ..may be they can help u out
@@AvishekLama okk bro thanks a lot 🥰
Fuel average me kitna drop hoga ??? Please tell as i am planning to upgrade air filter exhaust
Hardly any difference
I have a BS4 Himalayan and considering getting the fuelx pro.
Any compatible issues with the BS4 Himalayan?
Also since you said there is noticeable difference in power, what about fuel consumption? Any reduction in mileage? If so how much did it reduce by?
Yes it does affect the fuel efficiency but I won’t be able to comment as to how much is the difference as I haven’t tested it yet ..will come up with a video soon 👍
Nice video! Tks! Here in Brazil we have 20% of alcohool in our gasoline. Do u think this product will work fine or need some ajust?
Yes it should
Is it worth installing in a 150cc bike ?
No
I do not agree with explanation, how does excess fuel keep the chamber/engine cooler? And if the air fuel mixture has changed then it shall burn more rapidly I think.
Nah, certainly the fuel x must work differently.
latent heat of vaporization as the tiny droplets vaporize. Its not recommended as it forms soot and unburned fuel emissions. Modern engines are solely designed for emissions, not power. By installing the new ECU one is avoiding the adaptive feature of stock ecu which takes time to learn the users riding habits.
Hello brother i have a yezdi scrambler as u know that yezdi bikes lacks engine smoothness and fuel efficiency...and it give jerkiness all the time...
Will this lite version of this product hell me with all those problem keeping the original air filter and exhaust??
Give me ur opinion on this
Yes you can definitely use it with the stock air filter and exhaust. Coming to smoothness I can’t assure you on that. You may find mild enhancement on the performance but not out of the box experience
Same as I have roadster will it increase milage in lite @@AvishekLama
is there any chance that fuelx pro can damage the engine?
No it just controls the fuel intake nothing else
Bhai does a lite version for interceptor suffice after adding an after market air filter and a slip on? Or do I even need it as the stock ecu might adopt to the condition of air intake and maintain the ratio.
Yes you should go for it. You will definitely notice the difference.
Cheers mate,,,, great video.....Chris Australia
😊🙏🏽
A bike's stock ECU will adapt to aftermarket exhaust or filter only if it's a closed loop control system. All the bikes in this segment are open loop system.
Thank you for sharing the knowledge 😊🙏🏼
Bro I heard on a RE forum that on the Classic (not sure about Himalayan) the ecu doesn't remap becs they are using a basic sensor which only has a one preset, so using free flow may harm. What are your views? Should I or should I not change the exhaust system or would this device help?
Yes it will help also if it’s just muffler then u don’t need to go for all these changes
Very Informative video so far 👌.
I own ktm 390 adventure. Planning to do a full system exhaust. I am also planning fuel x pro, BMC air filter, Powertronic ecu.
I hope it doesn't damage my engine drastically. I think this ecu is smart enough to adjust to the changed engine conditions 🤞.
I love the performance of POWERTRONIC..installed it on my gt650
How is your bike doing after using the powertronic for a year?
@himanshudrawid3365 doing fine bro
Thanks mate. Will be having piggyback and fuel x both on my inti 650
I too use fuelx pro on Bs6 Himalayan. Try riding on 5th and 6th map in city and 7th & 8th on mountains you will feel the difference ( just a suggestion as I use these mapping, suggested by a pro mechanic and biker)
It changes the experience.
Thank you for the suggestion
Which map is good for Highway ?
5-7
Any improvement or drop in fuel economy ? Want a honest answer from an user.
Bro.. in my himalayan 2021 I am facing some power lag issues only @ low rpm range - 1700 to 2900 but post 3000 Rpm it's smooth, will this fuel pro X work for me?
Hi bro ..I cannot assure you about the power gain coz I didn’t feel much of a difference in power after installing it ..so if you are looking forward to install this for power gain then I will say it’s not worth it
@@AvishekLama Thanks for the Honest review 👍
@@mrtheabsolutebest my pleasure 😊
@mrtheabsolutebest I also have Himalayan 2021 and same power lag on low rpm. Have you managed to solve this issue? Thanks
Hey - informative video. Quick question, my Himalayan is an year old , does installing a Fuel X or a after market exhaust void the vehicle warranty. Pls advise
No it doesn’t
@@AvishekLama thanks. Reconfirming here, this applies to both after market exhaust and the Fuel X right
Yes.. I have installed both and yet got my ecu replaced under warranty
@@AvishekLama Yes I saw that in your video. However some videos claim changing exhaust or components such as Fuel X voids warranty.. so I’m confused
Now that totally depends upon the service centre..if they want the will find an excuse to void your warranty. Incase you have a good relation with the service centre people then I believe it won’t be an issue
Mr. Lama, guess some of the basics of internal combustion needs to be corrected. It's not the amount of fuel that decides the power generated but the amount of air (oxygen). The cool engine, less stalling and less downshifting is resulting from a richer mixture because of less power delivered to the wheels.
Of course there are so many aspects that go into this discussion. But good headstart. Many people will benefit from your video. Full marks for bringing it out. Well done.
Cheers.
Thank you for explaining it in detail..hope this information will be more helpful to my viewers 😊🙏🏼
@tinkeringprasoon7230 please explain the meaning of richer mixture??
@@sudiptochatterjee3527 The fuel that goes into the combustion cylinder is a mox of petrol and air. This mixture is in gaseous state which is done by the carburetor or Fuel Injection system. This mixture of fuel+air will after all have to be in some ratio. Right?
Rich mixture is more fuel and less air.
Lean mixture is less fuel and more air.
The mixture has to be optimized for best performance. Too much fuel can stall the engine. Remember we used to say, "overflow ho gaya".😁
Trust I have answered your question.
@@tinkeringprasoon7230love to get these kind of knowledge and by the way ur profession?
@@SSR_ARENA I trused myself thinking I have replied to you SSR. But I Don't see my response.
First, thank you for your appreciation. Second, I am a teacher. Earlier I was in merchant navy service. Later I joined maritime education. I teach electronics. Ship operations related.
How does this affect the mileage ?
Due to emission laws, most bike will run lean in the closed loop (the part where the o2 censor is used.) using the fuel X will give the bike more fuel in this rev range.. So yes, the miles/kilometres per gallon/ltrs will be effected. Your bike will not go as far. But on the plus side, it will run much better.
Bro where did you get this cluster from?
Which one
Engine breaking?
Will it decrease mileage as well?
Nop not much
Thanks for the video, nice explanation with the white board and 0-100 time list. I am looking this for my meteor 350, and i think I can pay extra 2k for pro+ since it claims more power. Thnks bro
Thank you 😊🙏🏽
Can we use Fuel X Pro in Pulsar N250 ?
This particular model..no
Very well made video. Thanks
Thank you for the kind words 😊
Fuel x lite worth it?
You can go for it but not much of a value
Avishek Bhai, seems like a really useful product, how does it affects the mileage OF the bike.
A Slight May be but recently I kept a track of the mileage I am getting it’s around 26-28 kms /lt
Information is very helpful..
Bro will installing FuelX Lite void motorcycle warranty? (I've the same motorcycle as yours)
No bro it doesn’t
Just to be sure,if u take in for repair remove the fuelx first
Bhai aapka Delivery mast hai lag raha hai ki aap knowledge se bol rahe ho prompter nahi pardh rahe ye acchi baat hai i am watching your first video and with in 10 mins i am a subscriber
Shukriya 🙏🏽 bhai ..Asha hai aisa hi pyaar aur saath dete raho ge
My 1st time seeing Indian channel with english sub
Oeba
Deshbhakt
Many Indian channels have english subs.
Do it works for Yezdi roadster ?
No but I think they do have one for a yezdi model
Bhai toh teacher hi ban gye white board pe 😹 watching it for my dominar 400 ug thank you
How about installing a full system exhaust on a interceptor 650? Will i still have to install fuelx or powertronic?
U have to please check out my powertronic video on my channel u will see why u should install one
where you got those mirrors bro ??
Doubletake mirrors on bikenbiker
something issue with the audio only left side sound is working
Yes please watch it on speaker
Will this void my warranty?
No I don’t think It does as it didn’t in my case
It only increases fulling so engine doesn’t run lean
True
Bhai ji , temperature gun use Kiya hota.
Shukriya next time
If more fule is put the temperature raises and oil is not included in compression ratio you really need to get bacis drawing and concern to say what you trying to say
Bro I'm using Red rooster in my meteor at times i felt some powerloss like vehicle getting down and now i have added BMC filter is that enough or should I add fuel x pro
It’s not a bad add on..u can definitely have one installed on your bike but don’t expect any drastic power enhancement
@@AvishekLama bro I'm already worry about my bike mileage which is dropping due to frequent valve noise incorrect valve clearance at times please suggest me the best because already invested 15k for the exhaust and filter.IF it's a must go product sure I'll go for it please suggest me bro
U can take it to the service centre and adjust the valve to avoid that noise
Guys let me give you very tech nd pratical info, Himalayan engine is LS 411, Long stroke specially designed for long rides cruising nd to have more torque to climb on hilly areas, by adding extra after market parts like imported filters, exhaust etc you can expect 5% plus thats it...by installing these parts you cannot expect a rocket performance,
I shouldn't be comparing but just a hint even a bajaj company bike can take over Himalayan (Dominar) though its not that greatly succeeded...
The Himalayan was discontinued bike after BS3 because of too many compliments nd issues in the bike there were 3 cases filed by customers for the bike not to proceed further, later everything was rectified and relaunched again as BS4 in 2017 as EFI ...in BS6 customer still have complaints, thats the reason by 2024 September Himalayan 411 will be discontinued, since 450 Himmy on the way nd 650 Himmy in pipeline...these engines are brand new for these bikes,
Not to forget thats the only reason interceptor 650 engines are designed by UK, France, tech gaints...you can experience the refinement in those engines....
Load of oxhit and horse apples 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hi, can you please add English subtitles? Thank you in advance
Sure give me some time
it's up..you can check it out.
FUELX , just converted the FI into electronic carburetor 😅
Air Fuel Mixture Screw
Really Really detailed review sir
Thank you 😊🙏🏽
Nice info thanks!
My pleasure
It's not worth buying engine damage may happen
I have been using for almost more than a year no issue with the engine
This video is full of crap.
Excessive fuel engine ko thanda rakhta hai it seems😂
Bhai fuel engine me nahi, combustion chamber me jata hai.
To combustion chamber kya teri gaand mein hota hai
@@Hsp44 Combustion chamber me fuel jata hai thanda rakhne ke liye 😄 Ye lo bhaiya, ek aur dhurandhar khiladi,
@@RanjanSh are bhai heat to engine ka head hi hota hai jada aur wahi pe fuel jata hai
@@Hsp44 bhai mere. Petrol kuch bhi thanda nahi karta. Engine cool karne ke liye alag oil aata hai. Liquid cooled engine me - coolant.
Oil cooled me oil.
Air cooled me air.
Petrol sirf aur sirf combustion ke liye hota hai, uska aur koi role nahi hai.
@@RanjanSh nhi bhai tum nhi smjhe agr air fuel mix lean hoga to engine jada heat hoga aur agr rich hoga to km heat hoga
Thanks for the review bro...was in the dilemma to buy it or not !!
My pleasure bro
Explained very well 👍
Thank you 😊
Bhai open loop, close loop bhi samjhata....ye bas open loop me kaam karta hai aur iske maps only richen the fuel as you go on increasing the digits...there are no maps nothing...it just richens the fuel that too in a close loop...na iska mujhe decel me kuch farak laga na ye open loop me bhi sahi se kaam karte hue dikha...misled marketed product laga mujhe ye jo fueling ko control katai hi nahi karta isse acha to booster plug hai
Himalayan mein with cat con and o2 sensor closed loop hai ya open loop?
Ye lagane se warranty void hoga Kya?
Nahi
Keep it bro
heard this entire video from my left ear
Suggestion - Agar ese video mile tho (one side sound wala ) tab Bina earphone ka dekho
That's not the logic of fuel mapping. You went totally off the track
Please enlighten us will be helpful for me and my subscribers too
Sound quality is poor!
BMC air filter nai hai na😅
bhai kehna kya chahte ho.....1-2-4-10 kuch bhi bole ja rahe ho, pehle seekh k aao sahi se fr batana logo ko.
What's your height brother?
5’8”
Bhai likhlo eak kagaz pe, bolne se pehle. Khud bhi confused ho, the working is very simple.
Itna simple hai toh khud ek video kyun nahi bana lete nation wants to know it .. khali peeli humse mehnat karwa rahe ho 😁
@@AvishekLamareally very confusing you are making the information... practice yourself 1st
Wrongly understood and explained...khud samj le phle badme video bnana.
Tu lagta hai samaj gaya toh tu kyun nahi ek video banata sab ke liye mein bhi usi se samaj jaaunga 😁
@@AvishekLama wo tera kam hai hai teri jarurat hai meri nai....baap ko mat sikha.
@@DAILY_FACTS_TREAT hahaha meri jarurat kya hai tujhe pata kya hai be itna gyaan nahi bat ke tujhe joh knowledge hai wohi likh deta toh do log koh kaam aata..lecture dena aasan hai karna muskil nahi ho payega tujse toh chup reh
@@AvishekLama youtube chod de asan nai hai to...audience ko samj h nai ara content aur gyaan baat raha idhar.....aur comment me mai akela nai hu jisko nai smja....kisi ko nai smja tu kya logic present kr ra....homework kr k aya kar pehle bad me audience ko gyaan dena.
I don't understand why you put your title in English but not speak English? It is a little bit frustrating. I really wanted to watch this 😏
You can write down your queries here
faltu ka paisa waste....... 10000000000000% waste of money
my left ear enjoyed it well
Net result ZERO