You got into the empire, because Riga tends to join the HRE and you changed your capital to Riga, which at that time, was probably in the HRE, thus forcing you in the HRE.
Okay, so here's a convoluted chain of events: Lubeck has a mission to add Riga to the HRE. Your mission to move the capital to Riga placed your capital inside the HRE. Normally, you couldn't do this, but the mission bypassed that. Since your capital is in the HRE, you join the Empire by default.
Ohhh, that explains a lot. I was wondering how I joined HRE as Riga despite not finishing the mission on purpose (Rigan mission tree also allow to join HRE). Thanks a lot
I would bet money that this is testing more dynamic government reforms for EU5. It's obviously the next game PDX will release, and it makes sense to test some mechanics out beforehand. Edit: Yes. I'm aware Vic3 exists. I meant their next game, probably releasing in 2025. EU4 still has some years left in it, but it's reaching its limit. I think it's safe to assume EU5 is in its early design phase, and I assume this is them messing around with some ideas for dynamic governments. We saw the same thing happen with CK2 Holy Fury and it's Pagan Reformation mechanics. They tested some general mechanics in CK2 and got some feedback, and then greatly expanded upon it.
you can get riga as vassal after you build buldings for him it will get mission which give city insane bufs and will give you 10 ducat in month plus like 10 ducats from trade and will have 10k stak to. very helpfull
8:54 Btw, I think you can vassalize them even if they are over 100 percent. I think it was in leviathan or a later dlc where subjugation cb halves the war score needed to vassalize a nation. So if Teutons is at 116 war score, you actually only need 58 I think and is very much possible to be vassalized.
Hey Laith- i noticed you keep checking the manpower from the ledger screen, but they added the nations manpower to the country diplo screen as well, right next to their army size underneath their corruption. saved me a lot of time when i noticed, though it doesn't show in MP of course
Objectively I think Livonian Military Monarchy is the best (it gets Prussian militarisation mechanics, +2 ruler mil, and -5% dev cost) I think Enlightened Monarchy and Mercenary State are the coolest for flavour tho
I've been playing with the Liviona militaristic monarchy when building a custom nation in Ante bellum(I don't normally create custom nation in regular eu4)....it's the prussian government lite. You get plus 2 military monarch skill instead of 3. You also get the militarization mechanic. You don't need admin 10. You can start your campaign with it, I was never able to start a campaign with the prussian government.
Riga has a mission (or maybe it's Lubeck) that makes Riga part of the HRE, when you moved your capital there from the mission I guess it makes you a part of the HRE without having to add provinces.
I took the Imperial Goverment. Going to have 40k worth of Marines as well. Currently the Protestant HRE Emperor, with a very big Ottomans to deal with.
I love the livonian colour. "Does spender carry over?" Man. You think He knows that considering how long He plays xD Also, video comes out 2 or 3 days After a reddit post on r/eu4 where someone said "i learned the hard way splendor doesnt carry over" 😂 comedic Timing
Laith, have you heard of the broken mechanic? That if you have minimum army maintenance, and a death stack, then even if you lose by moral you will still stack wipe the enemy.
Dumb question. I started a Sweden campaign and I chose the mission tree that requires me to be good friends and have an alliance with Poland/Commonwealth but things between the Commonwealth and I have turned very, very sour and I think an alliance is not going to happen at any point in time. Is it possible to choose the different mission tree for conquering Poland/Commonwealth instead of allying it?
Guys I went for the full militarist government. Dont make the same mistake I did. Once at the end you get 3 options. The one with the militarist mechanic has a debuff of -50% gov cap. Dont take it. It will basically tank your economy if you are in the hre since your gov cap will go down to like 200. I was going for the achievement and I was doing super well but I messed up my run because I had to leave the HRE :(
It wasn't Polish for longer than it has been Polish so it's apt to call it Stettin in the game starting in 15th century and ending in 19th so before it was ever Polish.
Hey Laith, to you or your editors, your volume is really low. I have my sound almost to full to properly hear you (and you only have a mild accent!). Otherwise, thanks for another guide.
hm weird, why was secularize the order locked behind protestant for you? I was able to do it while remaining catholic (altho I did flip later cause a lot of stuff I conquered was protestant and relations with the pope had declined)
can someone tell me how to become an elector if in the hre? is it just random who austria chooses? does he never choose someone who is big & powerful? whenever im in hre and kill an elector & take their land but allied to austria, they have never once made me an elector.. does he only like really small weak nations as electors?
There is only one way I know of. PU an elector, this will give you a penalty for controlling an elector when trying to be the emperor, but it guaranties a vote. Keep the PU small to increase the chance of inheritance. When you inherit the elector you become an elector. Ideally you would want to be emperor first before being an elector since it is easier to be elected emperor without the penalty. If you are outside the HRE you defiantly want to be emperor first before you PU an elector. To answer your question about Austria, he only gives elector-ship to those he can control, the bigger you are the less likely he will give you elector-ship. From my 3000 hrs in EU4, I never received elector-ship so good luck with that ;)
@@tigrecito48 no you can't, the entire purpose of elector-ship is to reduce the power or the emperor. If you want to be also an elector you need to PU one and then inherit it's elector-ship.
@@jeffvella9765 when you say inherit its electorship you mean by intergrating? if for example u get bohemia & brandenberg as vassals/pus & ur austria or hungary & emperor would u try to integrate asap or keep them for as long as possible?
@@tigrecito48 It seems you do not know about inheriting PU's. PU's are different from Vassals. Vassals are their own kingdom with their own king while PU's accept your king as their own. At some point after several generations of your king descendants, the PU might think "what the hell we are one big family" and should become one under one government/kingdom. This is called inheriting = all their land becomes yours without paying any monarch points, fully cored. After 50 or so years of ownership of a PU you can inherit. When your ruler dies you have a chance to inherit PU subjects. The chance amount is written at the bottom when you mouse over the king's name of the PU subject. The smaller the PU is, the better the chances. So get a PU on an OPM elector and you are very likely to inherit it in 50 years.
anyone ever notice how most TH-camrs never play more than 50-100 years of this game in their videos? Cos the game becomes a chore more & more over time... nothing new to do, enemies get super tough, tons of rebels constantly... a huge empire to deal with, becoming a bureaucratic nightmare... why does the king have to do everything? They need to make the game more fun later on.. more automated stuff so rebels are automatically dealt with and we don't have to deal with the bureaucracy.. I almost never get past 1650... I'm trying for the first time to get to 1820 as Mongol Empire but even though I got rid of most rebel problems its still kinda boring... huge wars with super tough enemies where you can only take a small amount of land and then waiting for ages for truces.. For me only USA, Portugal, Two Siciles, France, & Spain exist... England & Austria almost dead... so I have to wait around for ages for truces to run out...its 1730... long wars getting very little warscore trying to siege down a million colonial provinces and then taking a few provinces and waiting 10 years again gets tiresome when there is nothing else to do...
You got into the empire, because Riga tends to join the HRE and you changed your capital to Riga, which at that time, was probably in the HRE, thus forcing you in the HRE.
That's actually a crazy strat
Okay, so here's a convoluted chain of events:
Lubeck has a mission to add Riga to the HRE. Your mission to move the capital to Riga placed your capital inside the HRE. Normally, you couldn't do this, but the mission bypassed that. Since your capital is in the HRE, you join the Empire by default.
Ohhh, that explains a lot. I was wondering how I joined HRE as Riga despite not finishing the mission on purpose (Rigan mission tree also allow to join HRE). Thanks a lot
I would bet money that this is testing more dynamic government reforms for EU5. It's obviously the next game PDX will release, and it makes sense to test some mechanics out beforehand.
Edit: Yes. I'm aware Vic3 exists. I meant their next game, probably releasing in 2025. EU4 still has some years left in it, but it's reaching its limit. I think it's safe to assume EU5 is in its early design phase, and I assume this is them messing around with some ideas for dynamic governments. We saw the same thing happen with CK2 Holy Fury and it's Pagan Reformation mechanics. They tested some general mechanics in CK2 and got some feedback, and then greatly expanded upon it.
No? The next game will be Viccy 3. EU5 probably hasnt even finished initial design yet.
uh pretty sure victoria 3 is next chief
Watch the next game be Stellaris 2 and EU4 gets 8 more DLCs before EU5
how much money ??
Do you think EU 5 is gping to becpme a change in paradigm of massive strategy?
you can get riga as vassal after you build buldings for him it will get mission which give city insane bufs and will give you 10 ducat in month plus like 10 ducats from trade and will have 10k stak to. very helpfull
I like using the Livonia Thallasocracy as a government in custom nations so I can have the ultra-colonial power.
8:54 Btw, I think you can vassalize them even if they are over 100 percent. I think it was in leviathan or a later dlc where subjugation cb halves the war score needed to vassalize a nation. So if Teutons is at 116 war score, you actually only need 58 I think and is very much possible to be vassalized.
I tought the warscore to vassalize someone with the Subjugation Casus belli was capped at 80%
Hey Laith- i noticed you keep checking the manpower from the ledger screen, but they added the nations manpower to the country diplo screen as well, right next to their army size underneath their corruption. saved me a lot of time when i noticed, though it doesn't show in MP of course
I think that’s current manpower and he’s checking max manpower
that makes sense actually, good point.
it shows in MP
What are we, some kind of Lions of the North?
Laith is just playing nations all around the Baltic, anything to avoid playing Denmark
"divine ideas kinda suck.. but we're running out of manpower so quickly" divine give 20% more manpower in true faith provinces.
Objectively I think Livonian Military Monarchy is the best (it gets Prussian militarisation mechanics, +2 ruler mil, and -5% dev cost)
I think Enlightened Monarchy and Mercenary State are the coolest for flavour tho
I've been playing with the Liviona militaristic monarchy when building a custom nation in Ante bellum(I don't normally create custom nation in regular eu4)....it's the prussian government lite. You get plus 2 military monarch skill instead of 3. You also get the militarization mechanic. You don't need admin 10. You can start your campaign with it, I was never able to start a campaign with the prussian government.
So Zulu Tribe?
Historically, both the Teutonic and Livonian Orders secularized after converting to Lutheranism and seeing no point in crusaders.
I am surprised that isn't already in there
Classic paradox content
Therapist: "Evil Stettin doesn't exist, he can't hurt you."
Evil Stettin:
Riga has a mission (or maybe it's Lubeck) that makes Riga part of the HRE, when you moved your capital there from the mission I guess it makes you a part of the HRE without having to add provinces.
"Does splendor carry over?"
😂😂😂
I think what happened was, Riga joined the HRE via missions and after you moved your capital to Riga you joined the HRE
First create a nation inside the game itself as federation now create own government whats next create and pick own ideas?
I took the Imperial Goverment. Going to have 40k worth of Marines as well. Currently the Protestant HRE Emperor, with a very big Ottomans to deal with.
You gotta do part 2 to show off the new gov type
You joined the HRE when your capital moved to Riga because Riga joins the HRE in most games now.
I love the livonian colour.
"Does spender carry over?" Man. You think He knows that considering how long He plays xD
Also, video comes out 2 or 3 days After a reddit post on r/eu4 where someone said "i learned the hard way splendor doesnt carry over" 😂 comedic Timing
I was thinking of the reddit post when he said that 😂
Can anyone timestamp the part in the video where he creates a custom government form? I don’t have 43 minutes.
Laith, have you heard of the broken mechanic? That if you have minimum army maintenance, and a death stack, then even if you lose by moral you will still stack wipe the enemy.
Angevin Empire part 2 when?
Nice, most people did not cover the Levonian Order in this patch
I've heard you can go Norse with Iceland, it's supposed to be really fun!
great map color into another great map color
Livonia has such a surprisingly pretty color
combining the livonian merc state with merc ideas is hilarious
I’m having a lot of issues not getting any allies then getting wrecked by Muscovy every game
One does not need to buy the priviledges or fight rebels, one can just revoke them the usual way: loyalty being bigger then the influence
36:59 I hope you gave him a nice long walk after
"Anyone else I don't like? Nah it's just Poland"
-Laith 2022
Hey Leith when are you doing a Byzantium perma bankruptcy world conquest challenge?
riga was part of hre, and ur capital moved there and therefore u became a part of it because ur capital was a part of the hre
Senator Armstrong would like to know your location
You can just revoke bishopries as regulaer privelegies. Just take an heir that increases loyalty of clergy.
Ive never seen the teutons figure out the polish confederation in the newest patch. I think they broke something.
Wait... So did I just accidently call, that you would take the mercenary gov with my comment under your sweden video? xDDD
All my homies from modern Szczecin are probably shakin and planning to avoid going to the UK
Dumb question. I started a Sweden campaign and I chose the mission tree that requires me to be good friends and have an alliance with Poland/Commonwealth but things between the Commonwealth and I have turned very, very sour and I think an alliance is not going to happen at any point in time. Is it possible to choose the different mission tree for conquering Poland/Commonwealth instead of allying it?
Bruhhhh I'm in tears after the siege race against the teutons ahahahaha
Guys I went for the full militarist government. Dont make the same mistake I did. Once at the end you get 3 options. The one with the militarist mechanic has a debuff of -50% gov cap. Dont take it. It will basically tank your economy if you are in the hre since your gov cap will go down to like 200. I was going for the achievement and I was doing super well but I messed up my run because I had to leave the HRE :(
vassals my guy
new challenge: play eu4 with locked ledger
You are in the HRE, cause your capital is an HRE province. Which happened when you moved your capital to Riga.
You didn't fall under a PU because you were at war when your monarch died.
Love the Tunisia Top. Go Eagles of Carthage!
You should check out poland, it can now go full cav with the help of a mission
I live in Stettin or more like Szczecin right now because it’s polish city. Pls don’t kill me 😊
It wasn't Polish for longer than it has been Polish so it's apt to call it Stettin in the game starting in 15th century and ending in 19th so before it was ever Polish.
@@tropicalfruit4571 What are you even talking about? I said how it is called nowadays, not how to call it in game wtf
Riga joined I think.
Like the Tunisian FC shirt.
Kills me that you kept waiting for the Teutons to be under 100. Subjugation makes the war score and AE cost cheaper
The tricky move is teutons/Livons order always can refuse to be your subject.
Hey Laith, to you or your editors, your volume is really low. I have my sound almost to full to properly hear you (and you only have a mild accent!).
Otherwise, thanks for another guide.
Day 47 of asking Laith to play as Krakow
I feel the mercanary nation is one of the better ones due to how hard it is to get manpower in this update
Day 145 of waiting for Laith to play Denmark: No results yet
how many men from stettin does it take to build a house? nobody knows. they just steal laiths.
hm weird, why was secularize the order locked behind protestant for you? I was able to do it while remaining catholic (altho I did flip later cause a lot of stuff I conquered was protestant and relations with the pope had declined)
He meant Protestant needs to pop out before you take it. Now granted I don’t agree with that he just doesn’t like waiting
It wasn't behind flipping to protestantism, but it had to be enabled.
.. not yet
is it just me or does austria go crazy every game?
can someone tell me how to become an elector if in the hre? is it just random who austria chooses? does he never choose someone who is big & powerful? whenever im in hre and kill an elector & take their land but allied to austria, they have never once made me an elector.. does he only like really small weak nations as electors?
There is only one way I know of.
PU an elector, this will give you a penalty for controlling an elector when trying to be the emperor, but it guaranties a vote.
Keep the PU small to increase the chance of inheritance.
When you inherit the elector you become an elector.
Ideally you would want to be emperor first before being an elector since it is easier to be elected emperor without the penalty.
If you are outside the HRE you defiantly want to be emperor first before you PU an elector.
To answer your question about Austria, he only gives elector-ship to those he can control, the bigger you are the less likely he will give you elector-ship.
From my 3000 hrs in EU4, I never received elector-ship so good luck with that ;)
@@jeffvella9765 so if ur the emperor can you give yourself electorship?
@@tigrecito48 no you can't, the entire purpose of elector-ship is to reduce the power or the emperor.
If you want to be also an elector you need to PU one and then inherit it's elector-ship.
@@jeffvella9765 when you say inherit its electorship you mean by intergrating? if for example u get bohemia & brandenberg as vassals/pus & ur austria or hungary & emperor would u try to integrate asap or keep them for as long as possible?
@@tigrecito48 It seems you do not know about inheriting PU's.
PU's are different from Vassals.
Vassals are their own kingdom with their own king while PU's accept your king as their own.
At some point after several generations of your king descendants, the PU might think "what the hell we are one big family" and should become one under one government/kingdom.
This is called inheriting
= all their land becomes yours without paying any monarch points, fully cored.
After 50 or so years of ownership of a PU you can inherit.
When your ruler dies you have a chance to inherit PU subjects.
The chance amount is written at the bottom when you mouse over the king's name of the PU subject.
The smaller the PU is, the better the chances.
So get a PU on an OPM elector and you are very likely to inherit it in 50 years.
my cousin is from szczecin (stettin) 😔
Man, I sure wish this was a Galicia Volhynia European conquest instead :/ Cool video nonetheless
Can you please get back to Ck3? You rock!
What ai difficulty do you play on? Maybe thats why you keep losing siege races😂😂😂
Bro, leave my Stettin (or Szczecin as we call it now) alone, it's a beautiful city
Hiw dare you insult my beloved Szczecin
Bro you didnt subjugate teutons
The english comeback ._.
Day 31 of asking Laith to play Imperator: Rome with the Invictus Mod.
Lmao I am first to comment. Let's see how Laith will screw this game up
Hehe
Sorry viewers from Stettin, you are now banned.
Day 1 of asking for a Stettin Playthrough lol.
Nani?!
A fellow cultist I see
anyone ever notice how most TH-camrs never play more than 50-100 years of this game in their videos? Cos the game becomes a chore more & more over time... nothing new to do, enemies get super tough, tons of rebels constantly... a huge empire to deal with, becoming a bureaucratic nightmare... why does the king have to do everything? They need to make the game more fun later on.. more automated stuff so rebels are automatically dealt with and we don't have to deal with the bureaucracy.. I almost never get past 1650... I'm trying for the first time to get to 1820 as Mongol Empire but even though I got rid of most rebel problems its still kinda boring... huge wars with super tough enemies where you can only take a small amount of land and then waiting for ages for truces.. For me only USA, Portugal, Two Siciles, France, & Spain exist... England & Austria almost dead... so I have to wait around for ages for truces to run out...its 1730... long wars getting very little warscore trying to siege down a million colonial provinces and then taking a few provinces and waiting 10 years again gets tiresome when there is nothing else to do...
just truce break. if there's only a few countries and they all have truces then you won't even have to worry about coalitions.
Day 3 of asking for Manchu
Day 47th of asking him to play Georgia (three days late)