It is such a view-shifting realization, and such a relief, too! Before seriously diving deep into Tibetan Buddhist concepts, I had a few 'glimpses' of that realization, but because I had no way to understand it, I would forget so fast. When I started reading and learning, it blew my mind to realize they were explaining and clarifying what I had experienced. I am so grateful to come into contact with the Dharma in this life, and now I feel such an obligation to help the community and all the people in my life. Have a great day friend; may you and your loved ones find happiness and all it's causes.
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 I strongly disagree. I encourage anyone to follow his advice of visiting a temple or learning center, but to investigate for yourself and make your own judgement.
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 Even if that were true, you're not going to convince many people by making your comments in an accusing, rude way. I stand by my statement. I have enough respect for other people and their intelligence to encourage them to investigate and question things, and decide for themselves. I can probably guess why you feel the way you do, since you've lumped Tibetan Buddhism under the vague, broad umbrella of "religion" so that you may attack it from such an angle; I think if you did more research you might develop a better opinion of the tradition.
Simple and spiritual explanation even after 5 times studying in Manali, Himachal with my buddhist monk master i wasnt able to understand the difference between linages. Now finally I got it thanks to you.
Such a simple & beautiful explanation! I always had doubt on our lineages. Even after 4 full retreats on Buddhist philosophy in Himachal, i couldn't understand the major difference between these four and now I'm confident with it. Can teach other people why different lineages and why there's still no hierarchy :)
...or a different way of putting it as so one sidedly added below is that I have found the journey of Dharma the single most kind, instructional and fitting teachings of our times, useable anywhere. Keep the gold. Mine is mind x
I took a ten-day retreat with this guy. It was a great experience. When Tibetan's talk about Tibetan Buddhism, it seems down to earth, whereas when westerners try to teach it, it often seems like it's from another planet.
As well as emphasizing study, Kagyu also teach the practice of secret tantra. Gelugpa emphasize hearing, contemplation, & meditation. They have also established two major tantric colleges.
That's a wonderfully clear explanation, thank you. Dzogchen and Rime tradition have been useful for me - Khyentse Norbu also explains in a way I have found easy to understand. I don't really understand the religious aspects of Buddhism very well, I relate to the Buddha as a psychologist before psychology was a thing. I feel it is a good time o deepen my practice, so I shall watch some more of your presentations.
Nagarjuna . Asanga . Shentong . Rangtong . I feel (with no qualification) that we have been given gift . One that allows us keep reconsidering our own stance . That for me is a joy
Tashi delek! Rinpoche haven’t mentioned the Jonangpa lineage. This is the 5th school of Tibetan Buddhism. They hold the Kalacakra tantra. For political reasons Jonangpa is not yet officially approved by Central Tibetan Administration. But all Tibetan people know well the Jonangpa.
Personal answer to the reflection question - I think all the lineages have indirectly brought a lot of benefit to my life, because there are amazingly precious masters in all the lineages and they affected me directly or indirectly. To me the perfect lineage would be which takes into account the human tendencies in the present degenerate age (very low attention span, rigid cynicism opposed to flexible cynicism, no moral compass, fake gurus babas everywhere). Also I think spending a large chunk of time just memorising texts and not practicing is not so good. You could be the most learned scholar in the world but if you are not kind-hearted, not generous, sincere, warm, compassionate - all that intellectual understanding is of no use to anyone!
The inverse is also true- if you assume that compassionate feelings without sufficient cultivation of wisdom is walking the Path, chances are you'll do more harm than good. The two are inextricably linked.
90% of Buddhist temples in India are encroached on by other religion. Please save the ancient budhhist places in India. Please help us. The history of budhha in India continued to fade. All budhhist nations should help to maintain the Buddhist place in India
Seek Jesus christ rather, salvation of all your sins. Religion with out legs, just one love towards you. There's a creator he revealeth it, he is christ who died for our sins. Can a buddist or a fat guy serve as guide? Or will you become a snail 🐌or a fish 🐟after you die? Please consider turning away. I pray that my comment guide you to enlightment. Don't follow one of the 4 legs table and decide what leg works better. Jesus christ you work better, free from sins.
@@desdrencollins9975 there’s a place and a time to bring that up, and it’s not here. Religion is like a dick, don’t pull it out around people who don’t want to see it.
Thank you, Rinpoche. Nechung Rinpoche was my teacher and was Rimé according to what he said. I am referring to the previous incarnation. Perhaps you consider this a combination of all?
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 You seem to be disillusioned. The fact that individuals become corrupt does not mean that the teachings are incorrect. I do not see the Vatican as impervious to corruption so I do not know what your issues are, but one has to exercise discernment and separate the depravity of certain people of the cloth from the teachings they purport to embrace.
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 I find your comments inappropriate and lacking discernment. No one is worshiping a human nor advocating this. My comments referred to teachers. Do you think you would even know how to read and write without teachers? Whatever you value, you should respect, and whatever you do not value, you are well advised to ignore.
Very educative. I do research on how Buddhism disappeared in Bihar. I realized it never disappeared from Bihar. Buddhists simply failed to research Indian Buddhism. They looked at Buddhism through the sphere of their own cultures searching for only the Buddha. Buddha had a myriad of names in different villages according to his teachings there. Example. His favorite teaching was 'Lust and desire causes pain. Remove lust and desire, and pain is removed'. Translated into Bihari (where the Buddha story took place) it is DHUKH HARAN meaning to remove dukha. Three dozen villages pray to DUKH HARAN Baba. Its clear that DUKH HARAN Baba is none other than the Buddha. Problem is Buddhists are searching only for the Buddha. In the real Vaishali the Buddha begged for alms. The locals there pray to 'BHIKHAINI' Baba (Beggar Baba). Bhikhaini was mispronounced by Buddhists as Bhikshu. Who is BHIKHAINI Baba. The Buddha no doubt. But people are searching for a man called Buddha. In the real Vaishali, in Beluha the Buddha suffered a sickness and felt he had grown old. The locals pray to 'BURHA' Baba (Old Baba). Who is BURHA Baba. The Buddha no doubt. In the real Vaishali the Lichavies pressurized Buddha not to die. They trailed him to Bandagawan pressurizing him not to die. To put pressure in Hindi is DABESHWAR. Three dozen villages around the stupa where Buddha gave the Lichavies his patra, the villagers pray to Baba 'DABESHWAR NATH' meaning the man who won the pressurizing game. It was the the Buddha no doubt as he gave the Lichavies his patra and succeded in sending them back. But Buddhists are searching for the Buddha. Forgive me for commenting out of the topic. I just wanted to impart this information to you.
Interesting. Thank you for this straight forward explanation. Is the Dalai Lama the leader of all four lineages, or just one? Which one's are considered the "Red hats" and the "Yellow Hats"? You say it depends on one's personality, but is the lineage something that one can choose in Tibet or are you born into it? Were they separated by geography in Tibet or all intermixed? When you visit a Tibetan temple, how do you know which lineage it represents? Thank you in advance to anyone deigns to answer my questions....
i mainly practice zen, but do no strictlymake an ideal of it. with that i like studying other branches of buddhism and other religions, especially the mystical branches. i love the 4 legs of a table, it helps me balance out understanding of all religions. instead of one being right or multiple being right and some could be wrong, they are all legs of the same table doing the same but providing different supports. could be a 3000 leg table, but its stable haha. i love dzogchen, it fills a lot of gaps where i just didnt get it with zen.
This was very interesting, as there are many somewhat confusing methods of meditation the lecture has made clear that it is up to the individual which course he takes.
Mostly in the Tibetan tradition you are born into the lineage that you will practice, it is a twist by most westerners to have before hand knowledge of what they want to follow like an entitlement and getting to choose where they think they belong, l was a Karma Kagyu follower for 7 years and like most westerners l was brought into the Dharma by the mystic of what l had heard from other westerners point of view's and seemingly religious practices. it all sounds very enticing until you find yourself sitting on a cold stone floor doing Mantras at 4:30 in the morning in a language that is foreign to you and then working in the Kitchen serving roast duck to the rinpoche's on fine china while you eat a bowl mush cause your trying to live without ego, Oh yeah lots and lots of politics that are simply not mentioned to the novice and every study you do to answer 1 question you will find 2 more questions like a riddle to keep you searching, kind of like the snake eating itself and never getting the required nutrition.
Very interesting, many thanks. I am quite happy to meditate in the Tibetan (Mahayana) tradition in the rather small temple in the next town to me. (I often think that any organisation that would have me is not worth joining.)
The 4 main lineages have sublineages. Eg. the Kagyu has the 4 great and 8 lesser lineages. I had the good fortune to study and practice with masters of the 4 lineages, including Mingyur Rinpoche, who is Nyingma. His presentation is somewhat generalized and all the lineages include study and meditation from the start, at least in the West, where the vast majority of practitioners are lay people instead of monks or nuns. But when you attend programs in the West it may emphasis study or practice or sometimes both. Also, there are smaller lineages, like the Bon lineage.
What mingyur rinpoche telling here is not how you guys in the west study four lineages/school of Tibetan Buddhism. He is telling here about the general method of these lineages to lead the disciples on the path to enlightenment. Flexibility is the hallmark of Buddhism in general and Tibetan Buddhism in particular.
@@tseringsamdup322 I understood this, I just tried to reply to Harrison Miller who seems to have included the Bon among the Buddhist lineages. By the way, I am not much in the west
IN america we have an infusion of buddhism from tibetans and yoga exercises continue yet we lack the knowledge of these lineages even between Zen and the four tibetan schools that have contributed so mush soooo much difference between Zen and Tibetan varieties. So pick your entry into buddhism wiith tibetan you get tantra and sutra not zen.
I had it too for many months. When it started to transmute I had bad sleep for about a month when I was tired and went to sleep then woke up 4 hours later not sleepy at all. It was a time of intense mindfulness which probably caused the sleep "problems" in the first place. As I slowly let myself get caught in old attachements again and seeing how the mind reacts to it, my sleep went up to 8-9 hours a night again. As mingyur rinpoche said, the road to lhasa is up and down 😄
Well bön is a sacrificial tradition that existed in tibet before Buddhism but now it too has been converted into bushims although it is quite infamous because of its origin
U have explained all the four schools and their differences but it could have been better like at first there was Nyingmapa and what led to the cause of establishing of other three schools...... since Nyingmapa is the oldest school and yes ofcourse started by Guru Padmasambhava how he demolished the evils and brought about peace with the help of trantrs but what led to the formation of other three schools.!!! Sorry but it could have been little explained in details
So Buddhism is same as Hinduism only difference is Hinduism has much wider scope of life. As you named the 4 lineage, Hinduism also has panth(roads) to go the supreme reality as gyan yoga, dyana yoga, karma yoga, bhakti yoga and also includes tantra, mantra, yantra in all these lineage and their sub lineage.🙏🚩
@@lucky30840 I am not very knowledgeable, but from my simple investigation Bon is considered a pre-Buddha philisophy from Tibet that has been revived by modern day Tibetans. So you would be correct, I think, that it is not a form of Buddhism.
I struggled towards the end. Either path would lead me in the right direction, some paths more difficult than other. Eventually the paths will meet. Be a long time before I get to the end of my path, people suck. Sorry too cold finish.. It doesn't matter to people if I have compassion when selfishness or greed lights their path.
What is the point of 4 schools when there should only be a single truth? All this does is promote tribalism. And why is it that Tibetan Buddhists place more emphasis or importance on some random spirit, deity, or even their guru higher than that of the original Buddha?
Each of the lineages tackle different aspects of Tibetan Buddhism very deeply and in Tibetan Buddhism we do not place more importance on some random spirits than the original Buddha, but in Buddhism Buddha isn't the most important thing it is his teaching and yes I know if buddha didn't exist his teaching wouldn't too but now only this is the truth. In Buddhism we even say that those spirits and deities should not be viewed as above oneself and should be worshipped but rather be viewed as equal friend that coexist with us.
Tenzin Dorjee I wouldn’t call the simplistic explanation in the video answers to anything. He basically says the four schools are like the 4 legs of a table and that each school suits certain types of personalities better than others. Ok so what if you’re a monk raised in one school but your personality is better suited for a different school. Are you allowed to initiate a transfer to a different monastery so that you can more effectively reach enlightenment? To me the whole idea of 4 schools always seemed like your classic scheme to divide and conquer the people in the name of religion or spirituality.
Potato_ nyin_ maybe it’s just your school (which of the 4 do you follow?) that taught you that the spirits and deities are simply friends or equals. I know there are Buddhists that pray and for all intents and purposes, worship deities or spirits.
@@treeman_mj I am part of nyingmapa and I am aware of those, well I'm not sure what you mean with praying to them since there are prayers to those deities but not praying in the sense that we worship them, although it is common for Tibetan people to worship those deities but it is not the right way
As far as Buddha,with all your respect,he was a great spiritual leader,along with Jesus and Krishna.But ... that's about it.When it comes to turn the teachings into a religion, well,aaaά!!!! Neither Buddha or Jesus wanted their teachings to become a religion.And yet,look Christianity,or Judeo-Christianity,or whatever you call it.Manipulation.
That's why we always say that Buddhism isn't a religion and but a way of life, even himself said that his followers shouldn't follow him because they have faith but because they see his teachings be true by practicing only then they should follow him
Like all 4 lineages, the Kagyu includes study and practice from the beginning, but in the West programs are often study or practice as most practitioners are lay people and not monks or nuns. Also, some teachers have connections to more than one lineage. For example, my main teacher, Chogyam Trungpa, Rinpoche was Kagyu but one of his main teachers (Dilgo Khyentse, Rinpoche) was Nyingma.
Thank You la, I am Drukpa Kagyu but respect all schools equally. I also named my son as Marpa 🙏
Excellent, clear explanation of the differences in lineages. Thank you and Tashi Delek!
Encountering dzogchen is the culmination and transcendence of my entire spiritual path
I agree
It is such a view-shifting realization, and such a relief, too! Before seriously diving deep into Tibetan Buddhist concepts, I had a few 'glimpses' of that realization, but because I had no way to understand it, I would forget so fast. When I started reading and learning, it blew my mind to realize they were explaining and clarifying what I had experienced. I am so grateful to come into contact with the Dharma in this life, and now I feel such an obligation to help the community and all the people in my life. Have a great day friend; may you and your loved ones find happiness and all it's causes.
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 I strongly disagree. I encourage anyone to follow his advice of visiting a temple or learning center, but to investigate for yourself and make your own judgement.
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 Even if that were true, you're not going to convince many people by making your comments in an accusing, rude way. I stand by my statement. I have enough respect for other people and their intelligence to encourage them to investigate and question things, and decide for themselves. I can probably guess why you feel the way you do, since you've lumped Tibetan Buddhism under the vague, broad umbrella of "religion" so that you may attack it from such an angle; I think if you did more research you might develop a better opinion of the tradition.
T G where do you find dzogchen teachers? Does it work long term?
So clearly explained. Thank you Rinpoche!
Thank you so much Rinpoche LA for clearly explanation 🙏🙏🙏
I love your way of teaching ! So so so simple
Thank you Rinpoche la🙏
Simple and spiritual explanation even after 5 times studying in Manali, Himachal with my buddhist monk master i wasnt able to understand the difference between linages. Now finally I got it thanks to you.
Such a simple & beautiful explanation! I always had doubt on our lineages. Even after 4 full retreats on Buddhist philosophy in Himachal, i couldn't understand the major difference between these four and now I'm confident with it. Can teach other people why different lineages and why there's still no hierarchy :)
There are infinite expedient means for convincing a person to practise as there are infinite minds.
Horseshit, you don't what you're talking about Godless pagans.
Its seems thats we had similar experience in Himachal. LOL
*Yes, I want to learn buddhism teachings!*
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
ExtraBassYT that’s great you found Tergar! Has step by step courses
good luck in this fantastic journey then
...or a different way of putting it as so one sidedly added below is that I have found the journey of Dharma the single most kind, instructional and fitting teachings of our times, useable anywhere. Keep the gold. Mine is mind x
ExtraBassYT then DO. BE A DOER.
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I took a ten-day retreat with this guy. It was a great experience. When Tibetan's talk about Tibetan Buddhism, it seems down to earth, whereas when westerners try to teach it, it often seems like it's from another planet.
As well as emphasizing study, Kagyu also teach the practice of secret tantra. Gelugpa emphasize hearing, contemplation, & meditation. They have also established two major tantric colleges.
Thank jou master for the knowlidge jou give me. . . . .
Very good explanation, thank you Rimpoche!
Muito obrigada Mestre!
Thank you for the information. Please do more extended videos. Your wisdom is a bless.
That's a wonderfully clear explanation, thank you. Dzogchen and Rime tradition have been useful for me - Khyentse Norbu also explains in a way I have found easy to understand. I don't really understand the religious aspects of Buddhism very well, I relate to the Buddha as a psychologist before psychology was a thing. I feel it is a good time o deepen my practice, so I shall watch some more of your presentations.
Buddhism without a practice is a sophhisticated psychology sure add a practice maybe like dream yoga and it will deepen your mind also more
@@attilaclark indeed the psychology aspect is part of right view. There are seven other aspects to the path
Nyingma- First knowledge then Experience
Kagiyu- First Experience then Knowledge
Sakya- Focused on Tantrik practice
Geluk- Focused on Philosophy 🙏
Namaste.
Hari Ōm Tat Sat
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Shifu, thank you for your profound teachings! 🙇🙇🙇, 🙏 Amitabha Budha!
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Nagarjuna . Asanga . Shentong . Rangtong . I feel (with no qualification) that we have been given gift . One that allows us keep reconsidering our own stance . That for me is a joy
Would love to learn more about Sakya.
Tashi delek! Rinpoche haven’t mentioned the Jonangpa lineage. This is the 5th school of Tibetan Buddhism. They hold the Kalacakra tantra. For political reasons Jonangpa is not yet officially approved by Central Tibetan Administration. But all Tibetan people know well the Jonangpa.
Including Karmapa .
Respect to Buddhism from India(Hindu)
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Only Kagyu is in my area, but it's quite an interesting branch of Tibetan Buddhism
Thank you sir....pranama
Beautiful
Thank you 🙏🏻
Muchas Gracias!
Personal answer to the reflection question - I think all the lineages have indirectly brought a lot of benefit to my life, because there are amazingly precious masters in all the lineages and they affected me directly or indirectly. To me the perfect lineage would be which takes into account the human tendencies in the present degenerate age (very low attention span, rigid cynicism opposed to flexible cynicism, no moral compass, fake gurus babas everywhere). Also I think spending a large chunk of time just memorising texts and not practicing is not so good. You could be the most learned scholar in the world but if you are not kind-hearted, not generous, sincere, warm, compassionate - all that intellectual understanding is of no use to anyone!
You are quite right!
The inverse is also true- if you assume that compassionate feelings without sufficient cultivation of wisdom is walking the Path, chances are you'll do more harm than good. The two are inextricably linked.
Namo Buddhay My Mentor💙🙏🏼
Great explanation and vid, as always! Best wishes.
Aum mani padme hum 🙏
Thank you Guru
Excellent, thank you sir.
His voice triggers ASMR for me
90% of Buddhist temples in India are encroached on by other religion.
Please save the ancient budhhist places in India. Please help us.
The history of budhha in India continued to fade.
All budhhist nations should help to maintain the Buddhist place in India
I am a college student and I’m taking a Buddhism course, and this video just helped out a lot! Thank you :)
Thank you
Thank you Mingyur Rinpoche __( )__
Sir, I am from Odisha. I want to be a buddhist monk for some interval of time. It was my dream from childhood.Please guide me for my journey.
Seek Jesus christ rather, salvation of all your sins. Religion with out legs, just one love towards you. There's a creator he revealeth it, he is christ who died for our sins. Can a buddist or a fat guy serve as guide? Or will you become a snail 🐌or a fish 🐟after you die? Please consider turning away. I pray that my comment guide you to enlightment. Don't follow one of the 4 legs table and decide what leg works better. Jesus christ you work better, free from sins.
@@desdrencollins9975 rice bag it's meditation you don't understand, give your church pastor 10%&gifts go
@@desdrencollins9975 there’s a place and a time to bring that up, and it’s not here. Religion is like a dick, don’t pull it out around people who don’t want to see it.
Tashi delek Rinpochela! Haven't mentioned Shangpa lineage.
Very educative video. Thanks for publishing. Would you kindly advise on which lineage Sogyal Rinpoche belonged to?
Nyingma
Hello sir I like your vedio ..I am trying to do meditation..now
Please explain the fifth lineage: Jonangpa. Thanks
The table will have 5 legs..
Thank you, Rinpoche. Nechung Rinpoche was my teacher and was Rimé according to what he said. I am referring to the previous incarnation. Perhaps you consider this a combination of all?
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 You seem to be disillusioned. The fact that individuals become corrupt does not mean that the teachings are incorrect. I do not see the Vatican as impervious to corruption so I do not know what your issues are, but one has to exercise discernment and separate the depravity of certain people of the cloth from the teachings they purport to embrace.
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 I find your comments inappropriate and lacking discernment. No one is worshiping a human nor advocating this. My comments referred to teachers. Do you think you would even know how to read and write without teachers? Whatever you value, you should respect, and whatever you do not value, you are well advised to ignore.
Hi folks 😉
is this Alan Watts Ghost 👻?
What would you say to the pursuit of Nyingma among the devoutful?
Very educative. I do research on how Buddhism disappeared in Bihar. I realized it never disappeared from Bihar. Buddhists simply failed to research Indian Buddhism. They looked at Buddhism through the sphere of their own cultures searching for only the Buddha. Buddha had a myriad of names in different villages according to his teachings there. Example. His favorite teaching was 'Lust and desire causes pain. Remove lust and desire, and pain is removed'. Translated into Bihari (where the Buddha story took place) it is DHUKH HARAN meaning to remove dukha. Three dozen villages pray to DUKH HARAN Baba. Its clear that DUKH HARAN Baba is none other than the Buddha. Problem is Buddhists are searching only for the Buddha. In the real Vaishali the Buddha begged for alms. The locals there pray to 'BHIKHAINI' Baba (Beggar Baba). Bhikhaini was mispronounced by Buddhists as Bhikshu. Who is BHIKHAINI Baba. The Buddha no doubt. But people are searching for a man called Buddha. In the real Vaishali, in Beluha the Buddha suffered a sickness and felt he had grown old. The locals pray to 'BURHA' Baba (Old Baba). Who is BURHA Baba. The Buddha no doubt. In the real Vaishali the Lichavies pressurized Buddha not to die. They trailed him to Bandagawan pressurizing him not to die. To put pressure in Hindi is DABESHWAR. Three dozen villages around the stupa where Buddha gave the Lichavies his patra, the villagers pray to Baba 'DABESHWAR NATH' meaning the man who won the pressurizing game. It was the the Buddha no doubt as he gave the Lichavies his patra and succeded in sending them back. But Buddhists are searching for the Buddha. Forgive me for commenting out of the topic. I just wanted to impart this information to you.
Interesting. Thank you for this straight forward explanation. Is the Dalai Lama the leader of all four lineages, or just one? Which one's are considered the "Red hats" and the "Yellow Hats"? You say it depends on one's personality, but is the lineage something that one can choose in Tibet or are you born into it? Were they separated by geography in Tibet or all intermixed? When you visit a Tibetan temple, how do you know which lineage it represents? Thank you in advance to anyone deigns to answer my questions....
No, Gelugpa leader only.
Hi🙏
I want to know about Gelug sect. Anyone from Gelug lineage?
Rinpoche Yungdrung Bön is missing. Greetings
Well bön isn’t mainly buddhist in that sense. The nyingma school was first created with the fusion of bön and buddhism brought in from india
I want to be a buddhist so much
What's stopping you?
the video on the void by Swami Sarvapriyanda does a better explanation even though it's much longer
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How many systems was eaten by 4 main ways?
You didn't mention Mahamudra which is a unique feature of the Kagyu, as much as I know.
Well you can’t fit your whole wealth in your wallet can you ?
So, who start the Sakyapa?
i mainly practice zen, but do no strictlymake an ideal of it. with that i like studying other branches of buddhism and other religions, especially the mystical branches. i love the 4 legs of a table, it helps me balance out understanding of all religions. instead of one being right or multiple being right and some could be wrong, they are all legs of the same table doing the same but providing different supports. could be a 3000 leg table, but its stable haha. i love dzogchen, it fills a lot of gaps where i just didnt get it with zen.
Which are the Buddhist texts i want to read All
What about Bön?
This was very interesting, as there are many somewhat confusing methods of meditation the lecture has made clear that it is up to the individual which course he takes.
Mostly in the Tibetan tradition you are born into the lineage that you will practice, it is a twist by most westerners to have before hand knowledge of what they want to follow like an entitlement and getting to choose where they think they belong, l was a Karma Kagyu follower for 7 years and like most westerners l was brought into the Dharma by the mystic of what l had heard from other westerners point of view's and seemingly religious practices.
it all sounds very enticing until you find yourself sitting on a cold stone floor doing Mantras at 4:30 in the morning in a language that is foreign to you and then working in the Kitchen serving roast duck to the rinpoche's on fine china while you eat a bowl mush cause your trying to live without ego, Oh yeah lots and lots of politics that are simply not mentioned to the novice and every study you do to answer 1 question you will find 2 more questions like a riddle to keep you searching, kind of like the snake eating itself and never getting the required nutrition.
Very interesting, many thanks. I am quite happy to meditate in the Tibetan (Mahayana) tradition in the rather small temple in the next town to me. (I often think that any organisation that would have me is not worth joining.)
And what about Bön??
The 4 main lineages have sublineages. Eg. the Kagyu has the 4 great and 8 lesser lineages. I had the good fortune to study and practice with masters of the 4 lineages, including Mingyur Rinpoche, who is Nyingma. His presentation is somewhat generalized and all the lineages include study and meditation from the start, at least in the West, where the vast majority of practitioners are lay people instead of monks or nuns. But when you attend programs in the West it may emphasis study or practice or sometimes both. Also, there are smaller lineages, like the Bon lineage.
Well, I guess the Bon is not Buddhism and I think Mingyur Rinpoche is actually Karma Kagyu
What mingyur rinpoche telling here is not how you guys in the west study four lineages/school of Tibetan Buddhism. He is telling here about the general method of these lineages to lead the disciples on the path to enlightenment. Flexibility is the hallmark of Buddhism in general and Tibetan Buddhism in particular.
@@tseringsamdup322 I understood this, I just tried to reply to Harrison Miller who seems to have included the Bon among the Buddhist lineages. By the way, I am not much in the west
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does your right arm ever get cold?
seriously though thank you for this video!
'the view' ..rememberin this channel at ten k
IN america we have an infusion of buddhism from tibetans and yoga exercises continue yet we lack the knowledge of these lineages even between Zen and the four tibetan schools that have contributed so mush soooo much difference between Zen and Tibetan varieties. So pick your entry into buddhism wiith tibetan you get tantra and sutra not zen.
Please add turkish subtittle
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I like Kagyupa.
Dhou kar Tse bunja are you Tibetan Buddhist?
I feel sleepy all day after meditation . am I meditating wrong .
@@eustacecranch thank you
I had it too for many months. When it started to transmute I had bad sleep for about a month when I was tired and went to sleep then woke up 4 hours later not sleepy at all. It was a time of intense mindfulness which probably caused the sleep "problems" in the first place. As I slowly let myself get caught in old attachements again and seeing how the mind reacts to it, my sleep went up to 8-9 hours a night again.
As mingyur rinpoche said, the road to lhasa is up and down 😄
and what about bön school?
Well bön is a sacrificial tradition that existed in tibet before Buddhism but now it too has been converted into bushims although it is quite infamous because of its origin
Why do I think: "pearls before swine" ?
Swine will ignore the pearls; don't worry.
Because you need to meditate more and maintain the view 😄
I want to be a Buddhist monk
U have explained all the four schools and their differences but it could have been better like at first there was Nyingmapa and what led to the cause of establishing of other three schools...... since Nyingmapa is the oldest school and yes ofcourse started by Guru Padmasambhava how he demolished the evils and brought about peace with the help of trantrs but what led to the formation of other three schools.!!!
Sorry but it could have been little explained in details
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First!
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Even being First in essence is emptiness....
@@meditateforawareness That's an accurate obervation. Well done.
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But this is the difrent from Dandapani teching. I dont understand what is the right.
So Buddhism is same as Hinduism only difference is Hinduism has much wider scope of life. As you named the 4 lineage, Hinduism also has panth(roads) to go the supreme reality as gyan yoga, dyana yoga, karma yoga, bhakti yoga and also includes tantra, mantra, yantra in all these lineage and their sub lineage.🙏🚩
Do Hinduism has Yanas?
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Why did you leave out Bon?? I'm guessing the Menri of Bon might not agree fully with your otherwise good description of the four schools.
Maybe because it is not really buddhism?
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I am not very knowledgeable, but from my simple investigation Bon is considered a pre-Buddha philisophy from Tibet that has been revived by modern day Tibetans. So you would be correct, I think, that it is not a form of Buddhism.
@@alicehallam7949 you said more or less what I think that is, Bon is not Buddhism
Simple Bon is not Buddhism. It was there before the time of the Buddha in Tibet.
Bon is the main ancient religion of Tibet
I struggled towards the end. Either path would lead me in the right direction, some paths more difficult than other. Eventually the paths will meet. Be a long time before I get to the end of my path, people suck. Sorry too cold finish.. It doesn't matter to people if I have compassion when selfishness or greed lights their path.
Shouldn't you be a little bit kinder to your Jonang brothers, Rinpoche?
Can you please elaborate on what you meant by your comment? Thank you....
Well, there is fifth one now- the green one
What is the point of 4 schools when there should only be a single truth? All this does is promote tribalism.
And why is it that Tibetan Buddhists place more emphasis or importance on some random spirit, deity, or even their guru higher than that of the original Buddha?
Watch the video again before asking questions which are already answered above.
Each of the lineages tackle different aspects of Tibetan Buddhism very deeply and in Tibetan Buddhism we do not place more importance on some random spirits than the original Buddha, but in Buddhism Buddha isn't the most important thing it is his teaching and yes I know if buddha didn't exist his teaching wouldn't too but now only this is the truth. In Buddhism we even say that those spirits and deities should not be viewed as above oneself and should be worshipped but rather be viewed as equal friend that coexist with us.
Tenzin Dorjee I wouldn’t call the simplistic explanation in the video answers to anything. He basically says the four schools are like the 4 legs of a table and that each school suits certain types of personalities better than others.
Ok so what if you’re a monk raised in one school but your personality is better suited for a different school. Are you allowed to initiate a transfer to a different monastery so that you can more effectively reach enlightenment?
To me the whole idea of 4 schools always seemed like your classic scheme to divide and conquer the people in the name of religion or spirituality.
Potato_ nyin_ maybe it’s just your school (which of the 4 do you follow?) that taught you that the spirits and deities are simply friends or equals. I know there are Buddhists that pray and for all intents and purposes, worship deities or spirits.
@@treeman_mj I am part of nyingmapa and I am aware of those, well I'm not sure what you mean with praying to them since there are prayers to those deities but not praying in the sense that we worship them, although it is common for Tibetan people to worship those deities but it is not the right way
Why you miss the Bonpo religion?👹
Bon is shamanic, not Dharmic, but it does co-exist with Buddhism in greater Tibet. Bon is more about the worldly than Buddha Dharma
@Buddhist Beast early Bon is shamanism but later they emerged with Buddhism.
As far as Buddha,with all your respect,he was a great spiritual leader,along with Jesus and Krishna.But ... that's about it.When it comes to turn the teachings into a religion, well,aaaά!!!! Neither Buddha or Jesus wanted their teachings to become a religion.And yet,look Christianity,or Judeo-Christianity,or whatever you call it.Manipulation.
@@dhoukartsebunja9398 i believe you,i didn't plan to go there anyway
That's why we always say that Buddhism isn't a religion and but a way of life, even himself said that his followers shouldn't follow him because they have faith but because they see his teachings be true by practicing only then they should follow him
one shld have to learn before practice. if like kagyu, you practice before learning, there is the danger of becoming sorcerer, not great master.
Like all 4 lineages, the Kagyu includes study and practice from the beginning, but in the West programs are often study or practice as most practitioners are lay people and not monks or nuns. Also, some teachers have connections to more than one lineage. For example, my main teacher, Chogyam Trungpa, Rinpoche was Kagyu but one of his main teachers (Dilgo Khyentse, Rinpoche) was Nyingma.
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