Try out the following bar: Vengeful ghost -> soul sap -> death skulls -> blank (for scythe if AOE only) -> living death (does not activate for short kills) -> skeleton warrior -> touch of death -> volley of souls -> sacrifice -> finger of death -> bloat (doesn't get used for short kills) -> Necro auto (doesn't get used) Disclaimer: I only tested against Hermod and for that I was using Cinderbanes, t95 gear for weapons and armour, wen book, and have the Zuk cape. I went at it WITHOUT a lot of other things to boost DPS though as I was not planning to long term. LOTD, no familiar, no incense, no aura, no darkness and even with no prayer and no overload I have come back still alive after a 10min logout. After watching your video I wondered about the ghost being kind of like a Sunshine (both in terms of adrenaline used and haunted DPS boost) and so far it does seem that way and can save about 5-10 seconds per kill at Hermod, but the biggest thing is the afk survivability. Adding in DPS boosters/synergies for poison susceptible bosses like blood reaver, vamp aura, prayer upkeep with soul split, incense, zerk ring, and the reduced healing crystal will be my next testing.
I wasn't able to figure out a bar with finger of death and bloat in it that actually used them but also maintained more than 0 adrenaline at any time lol. Nice find, I will play with this. The Ghost at the front does sound expensive, but then again we do put Sunshine at the front for pretty much the same reason.
@@jasper_72I did some more testing at Hermod to isolate the effects of haunted with the blood reaver and found out that the ghost heals do indeed trigger the reaver proc and haunted will also double the proc hit (e.g. heal for 750 x .33 = 248x2 final hit upwards of 495 which is significant actually compared to the soul split or vamp procs). Also, the black crystal to reduce healing Jagex changed in August apparently and it now does not hurt you after giving you a heal, instead it just reduces the heal amount so it did not prove to be useful at all anymore as that means the proc hits are lower and you can max hp anyways. The vamp aura was maxing at 12 and then 24 with haunted on. The soul split heal procs also doubled with haunted and can max around 215. Adding incense, vamp aura, blood reaver and reaver's ring I only really saw perhaps 1-2 second average better timing. Adding in the zombie manually before the fight took off another 2-3 seconds. With a boss that keeps your health down more perhaps there would be more gains but I tried life transfer before some fights and it didn't do much either to improve timing even though I was below full hp for the entire fights.
@Waxfingers I noticed the same thing with the blood reaver, under Haunted it's damage is nuts from the ghost's heals. Against Rasial it sped up my kills about 30 sec.
@@RancelotRs @jasper_72 Yes, it sure does work at other bosses, but my whole setup (blood reaver, bis gear and levels, etc) synergizes with it. Here is a video of my revo bar pool skipping Raksha around 0:58 (with some inputs like adren pot and death grasp spec).. then my terrible follow up in the last phase which shows I don't boss Raksha haha. When there are moving mechanics you do need more manual input to activate the bigger hitting abilities, but I think the main thing is the conjures die so you lose a ton of dps from that in a longer fight. I use the same bar and setup for Rasial and get about 1:03-1:06 kills. th-cam.com/video/rvUn1XMDBbk/w-d-xo.html
My bar is skulls, living death, skeleton, ghost, sap, touch, volley. I swap touch and sap when I’m more active. Imo scythe takes too much adren when ghost is op.
Do Skulls and Living Death cycle ok? Thx for the idea, I might try this, Scythe does seem awkward for single targets. I just didn't think Living Death would be that effective when not manualed.
@@jasper_72 Iv been stuck with mobile the last week. The more difficult the content the more I make the bar revo basic but It works well enough at keeping all 3 on cd and using souls at 3 stacks. I started it at Kril but I’m doing risen ghosts now so I’m getting to see it play out fully. It seems to always command ghost right before skulls and living death come off cd and that feels good. I don’t have single target numbers but with my ghosts last I checked without boosts I was getting around 850k xph and lil over 300k dpm.
It's kinda crazy how easy the gear is to get on iron and how fast you can kill bosses, I am not the best at pvm, but I can easily skip all mechanics on NM kerapac and can easy get sub 2min kills. Also the zuk cape is pretty easy to get with necro now so imo you should alway try and get it.
th-cam.com/video/_2oskyQlRVA/w-d-xo.html Just published :), for bossing at least. Working on an AoE one next. Ty for reminding me btw that this needs updating! I have a Necromancy full revo guide up already but it's from before the huge nerfs. Hope this one helps.
If you mean from my character, could be 2 things. Both are Invention perks. Thick lightning shooting out is Crackling. Can trigger every 60 sec and hit the current target. Lightning coming down on the enemy is Afrershock (higher end, more expensive perk). Triggers every 50k damage you deal, and hits in a 3x3 area around your target. Both are based on your ability damage rating.
Just remember you can do it in a trio. (I assume you mean the Ambi kill). When I did it, 2 of the 3 of us (me included) have never done Ambi, personally I have never done even done an ED before. As long as you use tank gear + darkness, you can face tank the first two mini bosses for the most part, minus the serpent's head bash. For ambi, just stun the first black hole, make sure you have the dps for the mini bombs (you can tank 1 hit because of DR and lifepoints) and then as long as Ambi is death marked, it should die before you have to deal with the heals.
very misleading, if you use this at level 70 necromancy when you will be farming him for your armor, the kill times are about 2 and a half minutes, nowhere close to 30 seconds a kill
I have a separate Hermod guide using t70 gear, if youre interested. I don't believe I mentioned anything in this video would be tier specific. The concept still applies across all tiers (full revo = average damage, more manual = more damage). Of course with Monday's update we'll have to see how much that changes :).
Looks like necro needs a little nerf to damage numbers so it's more in line with other combat styles. An added cooldown on skills like bloat and maybe also finger of death would be preferable. For bloat anything from 18 to 30 sec will do. Skills that can't be used in revo is something that should be avoided.
@@directorolivia8930 With t70 (lvl 78) I do more damage than with t80 of another combat class (lvl 98+). I do use rev bar and with necro I use 'finger of death' and 'bloat' manually.
It's ideal but not necessary obviously to boss with Necromany. The recommended revo bar (per the wiki/PVME) is similar to what i mentioned here, just remove Death Skulls and instead have Finger of Death at the end.
dude can u post the ability bar in the middle of the screen so we can see it. what is the glacor revo bar so i can just relax and kill it? on fast respawn normal mode 5 mech...
@@chiponbloc for bosses that you would be revo-ing anyway with the other combat styles, it's my recommendation (GWD1, GWD2 with tier 90+, for example). Someone else commented here that they have Death Skulls -> Living Death -> Skeleton -> Ghost -> Soul Sap - > Touch of Death -> Volley of Souls. Similar but with Living Death added in and the scythe taken out. Makes sense to me as well but I haven't tried it out.
Bro this is exactly what I needed to get started in necromancy combat
Thanks
So handy!! Thanks for the vid man
hey iam curious how do why do u have spaces between the spells in revo bar
Try out the following bar: Vengeful ghost -> soul sap -> death skulls -> blank (for scythe if AOE only) -> living death (does not activate for short kills) -> skeleton warrior -> touch of death -> volley of souls -> sacrifice -> finger of death -> bloat (doesn't get used for short kills) -> Necro auto (doesn't get used)
Disclaimer: I only tested against Hermod and for that I was using Cinderbanes, t95 gear for weapons and armour, wen book, and have the Zuk cape. I went at it WITHOUT a lot of other things to boost DPS though as I was not planning to long term. LOTD, no familiar, no incense, no aura, no darkness and even with no prayer and no overload I have come back still alive after a 10min logout.
After watching your video I wondered about the ghost being kind of like a Sunshine (both in terms of adrenaline used and haunted DPS boost) and so far it does seem that way and can save about 5-10 seconds per kill at Hermod, but the biggest thing is the afk survivability.
Adding in DPS boosters/synergies for poison susceptible bosses like blood reaver, vamp aura, prayer upkeep with soul split, incense, zerk ring, and the reduced healing crystal will be my next testing.
I wasn't able to figure out a bar with finger of death and bloat in it that actually used them but also maintained more than 0 adrenaline at any time lol. Nice find, I will play with this.
The Ghost at the front does sound expensive, but then again we do put Sunshine at the front for pretty much the same reason.
@@jasper_72I did some more testing at Hermod to isolate the effects of haunted with the blood reaver and found out that the ghost heals do indeed trigger the reaver proc and haunted will also double the proc hit (e.g. heal for 750 x .33 = 248x2 final hit upwards of 495 which is significant actually compared to the soul split or vamp procs). Also, the black crystal to reduce healing Jagex changed in August apparently and it now does not hurt you after giving you a heal, instead it just reduces the heal amount so it did not prove to be useful at all anymore as that means the proc hits are lower and you can max hp anyways. The vamp aura was maxing at 12 and then 24 with haunted on. The soul split heal procs also doubled with haunted and can max around 215. Adding incense, vamp aura, blood reaver and reaver's ring I only really saw perhaps 1-2 second average better timing. Adding in the zombie manually before the fight took off another 2-3 seconds. With a boss that keeps your health down more perhaps there would be more gains but I tried life transfer before some fights and it didn't do much either to improve timing even though I was below full hp for the entire fights.
@Waxfingers I noticed the same thing with the blood reaver, under Haunted it's damage is nuts from the ghost's heals. Against Rasial it sped up my kills about 30 sec.
Does this work at other bosses? I just hit 70 and going to get my kiln cape to make my zuk cape and looking for a nice revo bar for after
@@RancelotRs @jasper_72 Yes, it sure does work at other bosses, but my whole setup (blood reaver, bis gear and levels, etc) synergizes with it. Here is a video of my revo bar pool skipping Raksha around 0:58 (with some inputs like adren pot and death grasp spec).. then my terrible follow up in the last phase which shows I don't boss Raksha haha. When there are moving mechanics you do need more manual input to activate the bigger hitting abilities, but I think the main thing is the conjures die so you lose a ton of dps from that in a longer fight. I use the same bar and setup for Rasial and get about 1:03-1:06 kills. th-cam.com/video/rvUn1XMDBbk/w-d-xo.html
My bar is skulls, living death, skeleton, ghost, sap, touch, volley. I swap touch and sap when I’m more active. Imo scythe takes too much adren when ghost is op.
Do Skulls and Living Death cycle ok? Thx for the idea, I might try this, Scythe does seem awkward for single targets. I just didn't think Living Death would be that effective when not manualed.
@@jasper_72 Iv been stuck with mobile the last week. The more difficult the content the more I make the bar revo basic but It works well enough at keeping all 3 on cd and using souls at 3 stacks. I started it at Kril but I’m doing risen ghosts now so I’m getting to see it play out fully. It seems to always command ghost right before skulls and living death come off cd and that feels good. I don’t have single target numbers but with my ghosts last I checked without boosts I was getting around 850k xph and lil over 300k dpm.
Actually really solid setup, currently AFK'ing K'ril with solid spirit uptime and Adrenaline gain@@magemanscrub2954
It's kinda crazy how easy the gear is to get on iron and how fast you can kill bosses, I am not the best at pvm, but I can easily skip all mechanics on NM kerapac and can easy get sub 2min kills. Also the zuk cape is pretty easy to get with necro now so imo you should alway try and get it.
man if there is a fully tested full revo necro pvm build for aoe and bossing please let me know!
th-cam.com/video/_2oskyQlRVA/w-d-xo.html
Just published :), for bossing at least. Working on an AoE one next. Ty for reminding me btw that this needs updating! I have a Necromancy full revo guide up already but it's from before the huge nerfs. Hope this one helps.
What is that lightning attack come from?
If you mean from my character, could be 2 things. Both are Invention perks.
Thick lightning shooting out is Crackling. Can trigger every 60 sec and hit the current target.
Lightning coming down on the enemy is Afrershock (higher end, more expensive perk). Triggers every 50k damage you deal, and hits in a 3x3 area around your target.
Both are based on your ability damage rating.
Using this with blood fury and pray mage, managed to get 100% afk vindy kiills lol
Using what exactly?
man i want to upgrade to t90 i just gota find a dart partner. nice video
Just remember you can do it in a trio. (I assume you mean the Ambi kill). When I did it, 2 of the 3 of us (me included) have never done Ambi, personally I have never done even done an ED before.
As long as you use tank gear + darkness, you can face tank the first two mini bosses for the most part, minus the serpent's head bash. For ambi, just stun the first black hole, make sure you have the dps for the mini bombs (you can tank 1 hit because of DR and lifepoints) and then as long as Ambi is death marked, it should die before you have to deal with the heals.
@@jordanwenzlaff3321 done. i just gota kill this dude hermod for plates. also got demoheim stuff to do.. 😭
I dart yours you dart mine 😂
@@tunareaper2235 done it used the discord haha
What's the discord lol@@lughano5253
very misleading, if you use this at level 70 necromancy when you will be farming him for your armor, the kill times are about 2 and a half minutes, nowhere close to 30 seconds a kill
I have a separate Hermod guide using t70 gear, if youre interested. I don't believe I mentioned anything in this video would be tier specific. The concept still applies across all tiers (full revo = average damage, more manual = more damage).
Of course with Monday's update we'll have to see how much that changes :).
Looks like necro needs a little nerf to damage numbers so it's more in line with other combat styles. An added cooldown on skills like bloat and maybe also finger of death would be preferable. For bloat anything from 18 to 30 sec will do. Skills that can't be used in revo is something that should be avoided.
Not really, the old combat triangle just needs updating. They don't go to 120.. necromancy does, so yeah it should be more powerful
Exactly, why nerf when you can buff stuff?
@@zentetsu2319 Necro does more damage on equal lvls.
@@Vincrand dont think it does assuming old combat triagnles also get buff, atm feels very manual to deal alot of dmg otherwise u arent doing enough
@@directorolivia8930 With t70 (lvl 78) I do more damage than with t80 of another combat class (lvl 98+). I do use rev bar and with necro I use 'finger of death' and 'bloat' manually.
U all asume we have zuk cape
Free upgrade and super easy to get with necro. Definitely should put on the to do list
It's ideal but not necessary obviously to boss with Necromany. The recommended revo bar (per the wiki/PVME) is similar to what i mentioned here, just remove Death Skulls and instead have Finger of Death at the end.
Nooooo I’ve been searching for one video that doesn’t assume zuk cape damn.
"Zoook"
Noob / revo Zuk guide? XD
dude can u post the ability bar in the middle of the screen so we can see it. what is the glacor revo bar so i can just relax and kill it? on fast respawn normal mode 5 mech...
8:37. It is in the middle of the screen, at the timestamp "My Full Revo Bar" lol. I just didn't have it up for the whole video.
@@jasper_72
u think this is the best revo bar setup for MOST bosses?
@@chiponbloc for bosses that you would be revo-ing anyway with the other combat styles, it's my recommendation (GWD1, GWD2 with tier 90+, for example). Someone else commented here that they have Death Skulls -> Living Death -> Skeleton -> Ghost -> Soul Sap - > Touch of Death -> Volley of Souls. Similar but with Living Death added in and the scythe taken out. Makes sense to me as well but I haven't tried it out.