A fun little note I’ve noticed: if you’re an orc (either kind) you can say you’re from Draenor instead of Azeroth, and if you’re a draenie (again, either kind as far as I’m aware), you can say you’re from Azeroth, Draenor, OR Argus. It’s a neat little roleplay touch
Yea I noticed that too. Unfortunately they don’t maintain that in the quest line because they still refer to you as “from azeroth” in all the following quests Sadge
I hadn't heard their dialoge without music or a podcast or whatever playing, so I hadn't heard that hollow metallic hum/rattle as they speak. It's absolutely genius sound design! It manages to give them a "drone" kind of vibe, without going the stereotypical route of making them talking monotone (which would get very annoying after a while as a player!). This way they get to use inflections and have some personality, while also having a dark undertone of being mindless drones / slaves. Great job Blizz sound design team!
I was just searching for a video like this.. but found only the short version, then went back and was like, just gonna see if there is anything else nice he have uploaded and then i see this.. haha uploaded 2 mins ago, what a lucky strike for sure! Thanks
honestly if the afterlife i ended up in was Bastion i would genuinely ask "Can i have a redo please? because if the reward for living a good life is being force to forget said life and all that i ever loved i think i'd like to go somewhere else"
Bastion is all about joining their cult. I got super creeped out. "Purge your flaws and keep the parts of that is best for the group" is a huge red flag of cult behavior. But great video!
I just started Shadowlands and have only gotten as far as Bastion (then I got hungry and decided to watch this video) and so far, I haven’t met anyone that hasn’t given me a bad feeling. So far, dismissive authoritarianism and blind acceptance of the rules. Not really my Mage’s thing, y’know?
bro same specially when i saw the bells ringing it reminded me of the scenario in MoP when anduin stops garrosh from ringing the bell that manifested peoples fears and doubts in the form of the sha
honestly if the afterlife i ended up in was Bastion i would genuinely ask "Can i have a redo please? because if the reward for living a good life is being force to forget said life and all that i ever loved i think i'd like to go somewhere else"
If you think that way you, wouldn’t go to Bastion in the first place because Bastion has nothing to do with leading a good life. Bastion is for those souls who dedicate themselves to a cause greater than themselves. It’s not a reward, it’s a necessary burden you accept for the sake of others. There are, however, realms that we haven’t seen that would definitely be seen as rewards for leading a good life.
An afterlife spent is servitude seems terrible to me, especially when you spent your whole life serving. Let me sleep in the eternal void where I'm not even conscious anymore, that seems like a good afterlife to me.
Imagine how weird it would be to have been a Tauren or similar and becoming this blue human Kyrian afterwards... Is there an explaination why they look like humans?
When my best friend and I did the quest line the other day for Bastion i sat there for a long time in silence before i had to ask my friend if we were joining a cult. Because really the whole talk they give seems very cult-ish...
One thing that I think really speaks to the power of Bastion & the Kyrians (aside from how powerful the turned Kyrian are) is them fending off the combined attacking force of 3 of the 4 houses of Maldraxxus while at like 1/2 power while also fighting the Maw-Kyrian on the other coast.
I can understand from a certain point of view why they are required to give up all memories of their past life. Because their Duty entitles them to go to the worlds they once lived they would have attachments there they'd want to stay or in fact changes better for Ther Descendants. But on the selfish side of the coin can there be no fate worse than to lose oneself to cease to exist? No sir Bastion is not the afterlife for me.
They did Uther dirty in this zone. He just says Saturday morning cartoon villain shit. Arguably the most important character in the shadow lands and he just appears to remind you occasionally that there's a conflict. A "literal who" gets a full cut-scene in Ardenweald and Uther gets random fleeting appearances and isn't even the main driving force of his faction.
His story is expanded on in an animated short: basically he is the reason Devos became a Forsworn, due to his hatred of Arthas leading them to throw him into the Maw without learning that the Jailer was the true mastermind behind the Lich King. That, and the Uther we see is only half of the real one (the one we found in WoTK is the other half).
"We wipe memories because everyone is capable of having their bias affect their judgement in some way so we must learn to let go in order to create a better afterlife for all." "OMG THEY ARE LITERALLY WORSE THEN SYLVANAS!!!"
From a certain perspective they are While i agree the methology is cruel and unjust if they gave the option to choice if you want to ascend or not and thus lose your past memories it wont be as bad.
@@darkwhispersstories47 Nah. There's a difference between "take people's memories because the needs of the many outweigh the needs of few" (Kyrians) and "take people's memories and ruin the afterlife because I don't want to be punished for my evil deeds in life." (Sylvanas)
@@snappycenter7863 ya she already burns in hell she is doomed anyway She speaks to free us all from the broken cycle of the Arbiter. And kirian are such an example of mortal soul abuse is honestly pretty bad I mean Revendeth sounds far better than Bastion
@@darkwhispersstories47 Sylvanas brought her fate on herself. A little more heroics and a little less plague-bombing civilians and she might not have earned a place in hell/the Maw. The cycle is only broken because Sylvanas and friends ruined it, so that point is invalid, though it does have its own flaws. The memory wiping sounds bad, but the video mentions archives, so maybe the info isn't lost. Plus the Forsworn's "join or die" and "hail the Jailer" approach is a poor alternative.
@@darkwhispersstories47 P.S The game sidesteps the moral questionability of the personality erasure afterlife by pointing out the The Arbiter doesn't make mistakes, so only souls that are that self-sacrificing for the greater good would be sent there to begin with. Plus if an Aspirant truly gives up and decides they can't make it as a Kyrian or sacrifice all that they were, they get sent back to the Arbiter to go to another afterlife (the only ways into the Maw are either to be irredeemable or to refuse to let Revendreth cleanse you).
Completely stripping away attachments and identity? The Archon has been taking cues from cults. Don't let the angelic look fool you, Bastion is beyond messed up.
I already picked bastion :( it felt like the right choice, I'm a human male warrior tank, I felt like maldraxxus was too stupid, as in they respect power and brute strength over everything else, then the elves are just too druidic, the vampires are too fancy for my warrior
@@GutsmanLoL I've been on the internet long enough not to trust that something that obvious would be picked up on, people can be pretty bad at picking up on the most obvious of themes.
Well, as a heavenly Deathknight this AddOn, I have to recommend to follow the path. If you don't, you might run into trouble, like little old Uther might at some point, since he attacked my covenant hall already. But all jokes aside: I think the zone looks amazing. Just the design and the overall aesthetic is spot on in my opinion. Thinking about it, most zones look awesome for what they should be. Just Maldraxxus for me is something we already basically saw (more or less) in other undead areas. Still, I have to admit Blizzard created zones that are unique in a way that you immediatly know where you are.
It is kind of fucked up that the kyrian have to abandon not only their former form but also memories of family, friends, etc. Suddenly Bastion doesn't sound so appealing.
Had to stop watching your vids cuz i had to get a new computer, and i knew watching your videos would definitely make me wanna play lol. Good to see ya again!
Hahahaha same with all of us bro, happens every expansion when you're starting questing you're like you know what I'm fully invested in this lore I'm going to read even the side quest people's problems, not even 3 hours in and your like........ haha
Man I wouldn't mind the reading I loved that with the older expansion but man the talking then right after a cut scene then they go back talking I just skip everything and just look to the right to see what I have to do
To rebuilt the Crest of Ascension the player must find and bring to the Kyrians 3 Relics, from Maldraxxus, Revendreth and Ardenweald. What are they, and what purpose to they serve? (Because it seems, after what i've learned, that the new Aspirants will become Ascended much more quickly and better)
Hey Nobbel, Even tho I am sure you wont read this. But here we go, Do you think the red soul that that truck the Arbiter was Arthas soul? As he was not judged instead just thrown into the maw. I am probably wrong tho
I don't think so because Blizzard said that the machine of death got broken around legion time, so if it was arthas's soul that damaged the arbiter the machine of death would've been broken since Wotlk
The titan Argus we fought in Antorus, the burning throne has been confirmed to be the titan of « death » by Blizzard, so the breaking of the machine of death could be somehow linked to our victory on him. (Same Color as Argus in mythic mode and it was in Legion too)
Devos is the definition of an anti hero. She's doing the wrong thing for the right reason. If she is defeated how long will it be before another angry Kirian takes her place. Not long id wager.
@@florenmage i truly believe she had great potential for a real interesting character. Heck, she reminds me of arthas for some reason. She has something about her.
@@DanielScutt where the hell are you people getting this notion that souls have no choice but to undergo the path. It is stated that if they so choose, they can leave to another afterlife. I swear the people in this community can’t comprehend the value and virtues found within bearing a hard path for a greater good.
Tbh I am hoping some of the covenants have some back and forth clash with each other. Even a miner one that might make a pvp thing for them. But the covenants are great. (Maldraxxus is best tho)
I searched for this thinking I missed something between the end of the Bastion leveling campaign and the Spires of Ascension dungeon. I'm guessing the missing piece is in the Kyrian campaign? That's kind of a let down. I already knew who the shrouded figure was, but I wanted to see it play out.
Is anybody else thrown off by Uther not becoming suspicious of the plan to throw Arthas into the Maw after learning that Arthas had been an instrument of the Maw? He can believe that Arthas was a willing champion, but after his experiences in the Shadowlands I'd think Uther would pick up on how devious the powers of the Maw are and would have been more suspect delivering a duped champion into its midst.
So why is it that everyone is so cool with a living person walking around if its unheard of? Ied expect far more of them to be like ""bloody hell how did you get here"" or ""what is a living creature doing here?"" But no there all fine with it.
I mean those who ascened not really hold any individuality and at least once or twice Kilia or Pelegos go ahead to talk with either hero rest or the temples. Furthermore they are also meant to be peacefull and welcoming xD
Do you think that they're setting Kleia up to become the new paragon of loyalty when all this is over? She is surely dedicated enough. The way she helps us seems to put her on that path or at least in that direction.
Oh please, don’t even try that. They aren’t slaves, they are magical creatures born from a realm of service and selflessness. Plus, before the drought sealed the pathways, the Stewards could leave for other realms any time they wanted. Look up RSVP: Sika on Wowhead to see more on that. There’s also Stewards like Mikanikos who give orders to Kyrians. Bottom line, don’t try to make this something it’s not.
@@H240909 I am sure it is what they all say when clear parallels exist but because it is fictional they have created a tiny technicality to avoid the obvious, like those anime pedos trying to excuse their perversion by saying ‘it is technically an 1000 year old anime girl that only happens to look like an underage child’
I dunno, I currently just moved to Maldraxxus on my leveling adventure, but Im actually on the side of the fallen angels (or whatever they called themselves in the english client I dont use). Erasing your memories might be a good thing for some, who had the "Guts experience" (Berserk), but for most people memories/experiences make the man, in a good way. E.g. you might have been a condecending asshole at some time in your life, but changed. Im not really into Bible stuff, but I guess everyone knows the Saulus to Paulus story. That basically means erasing your memory will make you being Saulus again. Well, lets see how this develops.
I'm sure she's gonna get some plot development later in the Kyrian campaign and that seems to be the core problem right now in their storytelling; Uther, Devos, Mueh'zala and Bwonsamdi and so many other characters barely get any developement in the leveling campaign and then when we hit 60 we solve all the major conflicts in dungeons and then have to wait weeks or months to see how they developed before that. That's so ass backwards. And I also agree that Devos shouldn't be killed off, at all, since she's clearly presented as such a sympathetic figure in the cutscene. Only reason why I would join Kyrian covenant (besides the owl companion thing) would be that it was lead by Devos who overthrew the complacent and delusional Archon.
the REAL important question is: are the Kyrian still DTF? or are they too religious? i mean, i'm just sayin', if they're still down, i might be a better person to end up there
If he is anywhere, I think he’d be in Revendreth. People who go there are redeemable souls who get to repent and get a second chance. Deathwing started out as good and noble person but got twisted along the way by an outside influence and made bad choices. Left to his own uncorrupt devices, he would’ve been fine. Revendreth would give him the chance to repent the screw ups and get sent somewhere else. Garrosh is very similar - he was a noble orc who got corrupt and he was sent to Revendreth too.
Soo sick of this part of the leveling. It just feels like such a tired trope. Something bad may be happening and the ones in charge knows and still somehow have the audacity to act surprised when shit hits the fan.. And im the one that have to clean it up.. All that aside. Loving your videos :) Keep it up
Jokes on them. We already know the path is the linear grind Blizzard has created and the NPCs are there to brain wash people into thinking it is content. I do want to know what red soul caused this grind though... Argus would be too cheap and easy.
It's still better than "Denathrius dropped a anima bomb into soulstream." Or even worse, maybe they'll reveal that it was in fact orchestrated by Sylvanas. That would be the ultimate letdown. Argus makes sense and I'll take sensible but predictable option any day over subversion for the sake of subversion. The most popular show of the last decade ruined its final season by doing that with every single important conclusion. And if it ends up being Argus, that offers some new interesting opportunities for the lore. Why did he die instead of returning to same place other Titans did? Is it because he ran out of titan juice? Or was it because he's often called Death Titan? What was his connection to Shadowlands and was that the reason why other Titans never woke him up? Did Team Jailer know that killing a Titan or specifically Argus could cause this? How? Did they lead Sargeras into making Argus his base of operation so that it would be one day destroyed by his enemies? I think the possibilities that solution offers vastly outweigh its predictability.
Monitor the words I guess he decided not to because when Uther came and destroyed it there’s really no one in site; I mean what kind of a military operation do you have to have to actually cover all the areas of your base how pathetic that again this is blizzard writing
Yeah, it's that similar plot convenience that they use all the time. There's no way to breach enemy faction's base expect when we need to rescue someone from their prison. The enemy faction leaders are always too weak to kill us even though in lore they could obliterate us (I'm looking you Tyrande and Malfurion.) Nobody in general ever tries to seriously kill us if there's no other NPC ready to rescue us. There's always some gadget, potion or spell that helps us do whatever the quest needs, no matter the task but they never come up again in the story. Two warring factions can never end the conflict on their own but we do that in less 10 quests, usually with tools that one of the factions has given to us but for some reason never used. It's really stupid, especially when there's easy ways to fix those errors. The guards in Kyrian base could have been on Team Forsworn and let Uther to pass through and that would have actually made perfect sense since Archon was so oblivious to the threat.
I get that Pelagos is a big victory for the trans WoW community and all, and is fine as a character otherwise, but holy heck is his (yes HIS not THEIR) voice acting bad. Julie Nathanson does a splendid job as Kleia though.
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Kleia: “This is the moment you must overcome!”
Demon Hunters: “I AM MY SCARS!”
Kleia: **Shocked Pikachu Face**
A fun little note I’ve noticed: if you’re an orc (either kind) you can say you’re from Draenor instead of Azeroth, and if you’re a draenie (again, either kind as far as I’m aware), you can say you’re from Azeroth, Draenor, OR Argus. It’s a neat little roleplay touch
YES, I noticed that too since my warrior is an orc 🤣
Ya i choose Argus for my LightForged. Made more sense for the lore.
Yea I noticed that too. Unfortunately they don’t maintain that in the quest line because they still refer to you as “from azeroth” in all the following quests Sadge
Me going to Bastion for the first time: I'm hungry for some tzatziki sauce.
Mmmmm gyrooooos....
I hadn't heard their dialoge without music or a podcast or whatever playing, so I hadn't heard that hollow metallic hum/rattle as they speak. It's absolutely genius sound design! It manages to give them a "drone" kind of vibe, without going the stereotypical route of making them talking monotone (which would get very annoying after a while as a player!). This way they get to use inflections and have some personality, while also having a dark undertone of being mindless drones / slaves. Great job Blizz sound design team!
The Kyrians or the brokers?
I was just searching for a video like this.. but found only the short version, then went back and was like, just gonna see if there is anything else nice he have uploaded and then i see this.. haha uploaded 2 mins ago, what a lucky strike for sure! Thanks
I haven’t got the time nor the desire to play WoW anymore, however i still like the franchise and i find these videos very interesting. Thanks
honestly if the afterlife i ended up in was Bastion i would genuinely ask "Can i have a redo please? because if the reward for living a good life is being force to forget said life and all that i ever loved i think i'd like to go somewhere else"
Even though I experienced the story line myself I am always appreciative that Nobble takes time do a quality lore video
Bastion is all about joining their cult. I got super creeped out. "Purge your flaws and keep the parts of that is best for the group" is a huge red flag of cult behavior. But great video!
Worst place to be in Shadowlands in my opinion.
@Buttered Lumps they're a perfect example of lawful evil.
agreed.
@Buttered Lumps yeah replacing your identity with a group identity is what cults do
I just started Shadowlands and have only gotten as far as Bastion (then I got hungry and decided to watch this video) and so far, I haven’t met anyone that hasn’t given me a bad feeling. So far, dismissive authoritarianism and blind acceptance of the rules. Not really my Mage’s thing, y’know?
Maybe it's just me, but I'm getting a huge Sha vibe out of these Kyrian doubt issues.. have to wonder whether they're related somehow.
bro same specially when i saw the bells ringing it reminded me of the scenario in MoP when anduin stops garrosh from ringing the bell that manifested peoples fears and doubts in the form of the sha
Are they same thing but different places have different names for them?
honestly if the afterlife i ended up in was Bastion i would genuinely ask "Can i have a redo please? because if the reward for living a good life is being force to forget said life and all that i ever loved i think i'd like to go somewhere else"
If you think that way you, wouldn’t go to Bastion in the first place because Bastion has nothing to do with leading a good life. Bastion is for those souls who dedicate themselves to a cause greater than themselves. It’s not a reward, it’s a necessary burden you accept for the sake of others. There are, however, realms that we haven’t seen that would definitely be seen as rewards for leading a good life.
Now imagine if Bastion is how our heaven works too
What then? 🤣😅
@@H240909 Well said. Bastion is not an eternal reward - it is eternal servitude to a purpose higher than yourself for the good of all.
It also seems like these parts of the Shadowlands are only for important people, not common people.
An afterlife spent is servitude seems terrible to me, especially when you spent your whole life serving. Let me sleep in the eternal void where I'm not even conscious anymore, that seems like a good afterlife to me.
Imagine how weird it would be to have been a Tauren or similar and becoming this blue human Kyrian afterwards... Is there an explaination why they look like humans?
I DEMAND WINGED BLUE COWS!!!...
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!...
/flips table.
I thought it was because the whole idea of the zone is you leave behind the person you were to become kyrian
@@Noahkino Yeah, but why do they look human specifically, that is what is strange. Who designed them to be human-ish? And why?
@@DontKnow-hr5my well titans are human like... Maybe its Just average perfect form.
This is probably what heaven looks like in the darksiders universe.
the darksiders inspiration is real strong if you look at maldraxxus its really similar to that one undead zone in darksiders 2
I mean you go to Heaven in Darksiders 2, so you can see for yourself.
We get a description in The Abomination Vault book.
When my best friend and I did the quest line the other day for Bastion i sat there for a long time in silence before i had to ask my friend if we were joining a cult. Because really the whole talk they give seems very cult-ish...
somethings gonna happen with them soon
Uh oh, looks like someone here has lost their faith in the path, better report you to the archon for some reeducation.
@@tooth1539 *christian crusaders be like this*
*have you strayed from the path of God?*
@Angelo River Indeed, independent thought is a danger to us all
@@tooth1539 I'll report it to her i'm more devoted to the path then you are!
One thing that I think really speaks to the power of Bastion & the Kyrians (aside from how powerful the turned Kyrian are) is them fending off the combined attacking force of 3 of the 4 houses of Maldraxxus while at like 1/2 power while also fighting the Maw-Kyrian on the other coast.
Ye and herculion, bet hes still fighting out there
Keep it up man. I can't really do all the covenants but I'm super interested in their storylines, so I'll be coming back here often
quality story telling
some other uploaders just uploaded the cutscenes and you get the general picture but not the smaller parts in between
I can understand from a certain point of view why they are required to give up all memories of their past life. Because their Duty entitles them to go to the worlds they once lived they would have attachments there they'd want to stay or in fact changes better for Ther Descendants. But on the selfish side of the coin can there be no fate worse than to lose oneself to cease to exist? No sir Bastion is not the afterlife for me.
Thanks for blowing my ears out with the temple attack cutscene after your voice was so quite
Devos is such a dirty hypocrite and she knows it otherwise she wouldn't hide her true loyalties from Uther.
They did Uther dirty in this zone. He just says Saturday morning cartoon villain shit. Arguably the most important character in the shadow lands and he just appears to remind you occasionally that there's a conflict. A "literal who" gets a full cut-scene in Ardenweald and Uther gets random fleeting appearances and isn't even the main driving force of his faction.
His story is expanded on in an animated short: basically he is the reason Devos became a Forsworn, due to his hatred of Arthas leading them to throw him into the Maw without learning that the Jailer was the true mastermind behind the Lich King. That, and the Uther we see is only half of the real one (the one we found in WoTK is the other half).
He is also likely to return in 9.1.
Is Devos the shrouded figure? Seems she’s playing everyone.
Yes she is.
Its not at all obvious.
"We wipe memories because everyone is capable of having their bias affect their judgement in some way so we must learn to let go in order to create a better afterlife for all."
"OMG THEY ARE LITERALLY WORSE THEN SYLVANAS!!!"
From a certain perspective they are
While i agree the methology is cruel and unjust if they gave the option to choice if you want to ascend or not and thus lose your past memories it wont be as bad.
@@darkwhispersstories47 Nah.
There's a difference between "take people's memories because the needs of the many outweigh the needs of few" (Kyrians) and "take people's memories and ruin the afterlife because I don't want to be punished for my evil deeds in life." (Sylvanas)
@@snappycenter7863 ya she already burns in hell she is doomed anyway
She speaks to free us all from the broken cycle of the Arbiter.
And kirian are such an example of mortal soul abuse is honestly pretty bad
I mean Revendeth sounds far better than Bastion
@@darkwhispersstories47 Sylvanas brought her fate on herself. A little more heroics and a little less plague-bombing civilians and she might not have earned a place in hell/the Maw.
The cycle is only broken because Sylvanas and friends ruined it, so that point is invalid, though it does have its own flaws.
The memory wiping sounds bad, but the video mentions archives, so maybe the info isn't lost. Plus the Forsworn's "join or die" and "hail the Jailer" approach is a poor alternative.
@@darkwhispersstories47 P.S The game sidesteps the moral questionability of the personality erasure afterlife by pointing out the The Arbiter doesn't make mistakes, so only souls that are that self-sacrificing for the greater good would be sent there to begin with.
Plus if an Aspirant truly gives up and decides they can't make it as a Kyrian or sacrifice all that they were, they get sent back to the Arbiter to go to another afterlife (the only ways into the Maw are either to be irredeemable or to refuse to let Revendreth cleanse you).
Bastion has some serious George Orwell: 1984 vibes....
Completely stripping away attachments and identity? The Archon has been taking cues from cults. Don't let the angelic look fool you, Bastion is beyond messed up.
No shit that’s literally the conclusion they want you to come to.
But but I'm a good guy what should I pick
I already picked bastion :( it felt like the right choice, I'm a human male warrior tank, I felt like maldraxxus was too stupid, as in they respect power and brute strength over everything else, then the elves are just too druidic, the vampires are too fancy for my warrior
@@GutsmanLoL I've been on the internet long enough not to trust that something that obvious would be picked up on, people can be pretty bad at picking up on the most obvious of themes.
Love your videos Nobbel, I don't play but am really into the lore
the animation of that paragon bugged out at 29:40 and its really quite funny
Was waiting with anticipation for the zone lore videos!
Well, as a heavenly Deathknight this AddOn, I have to recommend to follow the path.
If you don't, you might run into trouble, like little old Uther might at some point, since he attacked my covenant hall already.
But all jokes aside: I think the zone looks amazing. Just the design and the overall aesthetic is spot on in my opinion.
Thinking about it, most zones look awesome for what they should be. Just Maldraxxus for me is something we already basically saw (more or less) in other undead areas. Still, I have to admit Blizzard created zones that are unique in a way that you immediatly know where you are.
It is kind of fucked up that the kyrian have to abandon not only their former form but also memories of family, friends, etc. Suddenly Bastion doesn't sound so appealing.
This is why I speed run the leaving so I can chill and watch these types of videos to soak in the lore.
The way he pronounced Vesiphone killed me.
Does anyone notice that they are probably the spirit healers that we find on wow?
Had to stop watching your vids cuz i had to get a new computer, and i knew watching your videos would definitely make me wanna play lol. Good to see ya again!
I havent played the game since MoP but I still love the lore and your voice is very soothing.
Finally! I was reading all the quest texts while lvling and it was taking forever lol I stopped reading after the maldraxxus story
Hahahaha same with all of us bro, happens every expansion when you're starting questing you're like you know what I'm fully invested in this lore I'm going to read even the side quest people's problems, not even 3 hours in and your like........ haha
@@nolabets3130 Hahaha I feel ya bro! It happened when bfa released and now it happened again 😂 but shadowlands is amazing tho I'm loving it
This comment resonates with me on a deep level
you didn't miss something in ardenweild
Man I wouldn't mind the reading I loved that with the older expansion but man the talking then right after a cut scene then they go back talking I just skip everything and just look to the right to see what I have to do
I love videos like this helps me remember what hapenned when I was leveling
To rebuilt the Crest of Ascension the player must find and bring to the Kyrians 3 Relics, from Maldraxxus, Revendreth and Ardenweald.
What are they, and what purpose to they serve?
(Because it seems, after what i've learned, that the new Aspirants will become Ascended much more quickly and better)
Hey Nobbel, Even tho I am sure you wont read this. But here we go, Do you think the red soul that that truck the Arbiter was Arthas soul? As he was not judged instead just thrown into the maw. I am probably wrong tho
I don't think so because Blizzard said that the machine of death got broken around legion time, so if it was arthas's soul that damaged the arbiter the machine of death would've been broken since Wotlk
The titan Argus we fought in Antorus, the burning throne has been confirmed to be the titan of « death » by Blizzard, so the breaking of the machine of death could be somehow linked to our victory on him. (Same Color as Argus in mythic mode and it was in Legion too)
@@alakorquantique8532 Interesting :O
I side with devos on this.
Devos is the definition of an anti hero.
She's doing the wrong thing for the right reason.
If she is defeated how long will it be before another angry Kirian takes her place.
Not long id wager.
@@florenmage i truly believe she had great potential for a real interesting character. Heck, she reminds me of arthas for some reason. She has something about her.
@@DanielScutt where the hell are you people getting this notion that souls have no choice but to undergo the path. It is stated that if they so choose, they can leave to another afterlife.
I swear the people in this community can’t comprehend the value and virtues found within bearing a hard path for a greater good.
Why was warbrave oro the only dude we saw in Bastion from lore... ?!!
Tbh I am hoping some of the covenants have some back and forth clash with each other.
Even a miner one that might make a pvp thing for them.
But the covenants are great.
(Maldraxxus is best tho)
I searched for this thinking I missed something between the end of the Bastion leveling campaign and the Spires of Ascension dungeon. I'm guessing the missing piece is in the Kyrian campaign? That's kind of a let down. I already knew who the shrouded figure was, but I wanted to see it play out.
Thanks for another sleeping video!
Is anybody else thrown off by Uther not becoming suspicious of the plan to throw Arthas into the Maw after learning that Arthas had been an instrument of the Maw? He can believe that Arthas was a willing champion, but after his experiences in the Shadowlands I'd think Uther would pick up on how devious the powers of the Maw are and would have been more suspect delivering a duped champion into its midst.
The Archon is kinda on the edge between lawful stupid and true stupid.
So why is it that everyone is so cool with a living person walking around if its unheard of? Ied expect far more of them to be like ""bloody hell how did you get here"" or ""what is a living creature doing here?"" But no there all fine with it.
I mean those who ascened not really hold any individuality and at least once or twice Kilia or Pelegos go ahead to talk with either hero rest or the temples.
Furthermore they are also meant to be peacefull and welcoming xD
How are they cool with it? They are literally talking about it every 5 seconds through all the zones.
Also they have prob seen a lot.
@@user-uq4gr5nl5o exactly, it's surprising, but they are still thousands of years old, of course they have restraint
Erisne was a Draenei then, right? Must've been.
Do you think that they're setting Kleia up to become the new paragon of loyalty when all this is over? She is surely dedicated enough. The way she helps us seems to put her on that path or at least in that direction.
"They love nothing more than to be of service, they get really depressed when they cant help out" Holy damn making those Slaveowner arguments Blizzard
I cringed when I first heard this.
Oh please, don’t even try that. They aren’t slaves, they are magical creatures born from a realm of service and selflessness. Plus, before the drought sealed the pathways, the Stewards could leave for other realms any time they wanted. Look up RSVP: Sika on Wowhead to see more on that. There’s also Stewards like Mikanikos who give orders to Kyrians.
Bottom line, don’t try to make this something it’s not.
@@H240909 I am sure it is what they all say when clear parallels exist but because it is fictional they have created a tiny technicality to avoid the obvious, like those anime pedos trying to excuse their perversion by saying ‘it is technically an 1000 year old anime girl that only happens to look like an underage child’
@@Ash-2449 Clear parallels? Yeah, last I checked, slaves don't get vacations. Where are your parallels now? Stop trying to politicize non-issues.
There's a big difference between free-willed people being enslaved by force and beings coalesced from magic enjoying servitude.
I feel like the kyrian are wrong and the forsworn are right
Do we know who Shrouded Figure is? Devos?
Honestly i would still ally with the foresworn than the kyrian, they are just so unlikable
You think The Locus Walker has anything to do with Bastion considering the locus quests and the short void invasion arc?
This comment isn’t linked to this video but the toy akunda firesticks does not work in the dungeon “De other side”
Sadge
I dunno, I currently just moved to Maldraxxus on my leveling adventure, but Im actually on the side of the fallen angels (or whatever they called themselves in the english client I dont use). Erasing your memories might be a good thing for some, who had the "Guts experience" (Berserk), but for most people memories/experiences make the man, in a good way. E.g. you might have been a condecending asshole at some time in your life, but changed. Im not really into Bible stuff, but I guess everyone knows the Saulus to Paulus story. That basically means erasing your memory will make you being Saulus again.
Well, lets see how this develops.
Jesus.. i was about to go to bed
I only stayed in this zone to finish the quests. Couldn't get out of there fast enough *shudder*
Dunno why but the voices of the brokers sound like Protoss to me.
What happened to Devos? Did she really died at Spires of Ascension? I had great expectation over her character development... :|
They just killed the best female character in Shadowlands.. what was they thinking ??
I'm sure she's gonna get some plot development later in the Kyrian campaign and that seems to be the core problem right now in their storytelling; Uther, Devos, Mueh'zala and Bwonsamdi and so many other characters barely get any developement in the leveling campaign and then when we hit 60 we solve all the major conflicts in dungeons and then have to wait weeks or months to see how they developed before that. That's so ass backwards. And I also agree that Devos shouldn't be killed off, at all, since she's clearly presented as such a sympathetic figure in the cutscene. Only reason why I would join Kyrian covenant (besides the owl companion thing) would be that it was lead by Devos who overthrew the complacent and delusional Archon.
Ufer, Delight Bringer
Thank you so much for the video. I'm only interested in lore so yeah you saved me 80 EUR for the expansion :)
When are you going to do the lore of the other covenants
the REAL important question is: are the Kyrian still DTF? or are they too religious? i mean, i'm just sayin', if they're still down, i might be a better person to end up there
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Cringe
@@Azmina_the_warlock I did my job ;)
I hate how every NPC in WoW has to be 20 feet tall
they arent in the lore but they do this in game so you can distinguish them from actual players
Trust and follow the path, this is the way 😅
its called brainwashing.... so sad.
one of the hand kyrians sounds like morgana from lol
Kyrian seem chaotic good?
Bastion was a pain to work though. Too bad that they force you into there when you're doing Chromie time for leveling. I hate going there.
ve, seph, oni. Like Per, seph, oni
"Pew pew pew pew, all the little flyers go bye!" This had me laughing way too much, love the additions in the CC's Nobbel
I wonder if death wing went to the maw
I think he was just erased from existence.
If he is anywhere, I think he’d be in Revendreth. People who go there are redeemable souls who get to repent and get a second chance. Deathwing started out as good and noble person but got twisted along the way by an outside influence and made bad choices. Left to his own uncorrupt devices, he would’ve been fine. Revendreth would give him the chance to repent the screw ups and get sent somewhere else. Garrosh is very similar - he was a noble orc who got corrupt and he was sent to Revendreth too.
So the kyrian are basically greek scientology angels
yeah angels of death and psychopomps.
Can you refuse to join the kyrian?
How did you get those Black Dragon wings :O
that's the proc effect from Wrathion's trinket earned in nyalotha
@@Nobbel87 Is it still possible to eran it? :D
@@jwilleseries7764 If you can find a raid for it, sure! It's called humming black dragonscale www.wowhead.com/item=174044/humming-black-dragonscale
@@Nobbel87 Thanks :) Is it possible to obtain it via LFR Or do I have to find a proper raid group without using LFR?
@@jwilleseries7764 It's available in lfr. If you go to the adventure guide (shfit +J) you can browse raids and difficulties and their loot tables!
Does ressurection rip you from shadowlands back to our realm?
@Mokarokas - This smells like Egoraptor...
I hope Devos is redeemed
I'll come back to this game when they no longer have allied races locked behind soulsucking grinds. Stupid ass dev decisions
What a confusing story!
So sad still that we don’t get Devos as a waifu
Soo sick of this part of the leveling. It just feels like such a tired trope. Something bad may be happening and the ones in charge knows and still somehow have the audacity to act surprised when shit hits the fan.. And im the one that have to clean it up..
All that aside. Loving your videos :) Keep it up
I hear Michelle Fairley... is that her???
Such retcon, much wow... The writers should go to 4th grade.
It's funny that my first bastion Character is a Demon Hunter
Me getting into Bastion: Bruh I’m not dead! I don’t even wanna be a Kyrian anyway! I’d like to keep my memories please...
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I Think everyone forgets who they were eventually not only the Kyrians
Doesn’t seem to happen in the other realms. Draka knows who she is and souls you quest with in the other 2 realms also remember
You wouldn't be sent to Bastion in the first place if that's your opinion of it.
I'd rather go to the maw than Bastion XD
Jokes on them. We already know the path is the linear grind Blizzard has created and the NPCs are there to brain wash people into thinking it is content. I do want to know what red soul caused this grind though... Argus would be too cheap and easy.
It's still better than "Denathrius dropped a anima bomb into soulstream." Or even worse, maybe they'll reveal that it was in fact orchestrated by Sylvanas. That would be the ultimate letdown. Argus makes sense and I'll take sensible but predictable option any day over subversion for the sake of subversion. The most popular show of the last decade ruined its final season by doing that with every single important conclusion. And if it ends up being Argus, that offers some new interesting opportunities for the lore. Why did he die instead of returning to same place other Titans did? Is it because he ran out of titan juice? Or was it because he's often called Death Titan? What was his connection to Shadowlands and was that the reason why other Titans never woke him up? Did Team Jailer know that killing a Titan or specifically Argus could cause this? How? Did they lead Sargeras into making Argus his base of operation so that it would be one day destroyed by his enemies?
I think the possibilities that solution offers vastly outweigh its predictability.
Why the hack you use a SHOVEL?!
My Troll-Shaman *laughing about dumb human light-believers in wood-heaven*
Fun fact: you haven’t watched the whole video yet
2x speed says hello
Yeah seems about right
@@wackpendejo3000 got me there
>:(
Update: You have probably watched the video by now
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4 dislikes= 4 sad boys
ZA PATHU
it put me to sleep haven't logged in since
So prople of azeroth, who are more or less free, dir and become slaves of a faction the arbiter decides on hmm.
Monitor the words I guess he decided not to because when Uther came and destroyed it there’s really no one in site; I mean what kind of a military operation do you have to have to actually cover all the areas of your base how pathetic that again this is blizzard writing
Yeah, it's that similar plot convenience that they use all the time. There's no way to breach enemy faction's base expect when we need to rescue someone from their prison. The enemy faction leaders are always too weak to kill us even though in lore they could obliterate us (I'm looking you Tyrande and Malfurion.) Nobody in general ever tries to seriously kill us if there's no other NPC ready to rescue us. There's always some gadget, potion or spell that helps us do whatever the quest needs, no matter the task but they never come up again in the story. Two warring factions can never end the conflict on their own but we do that in less 10 quests, usually with tools that one of the factions has given to us but for some reason never used.
It's really stupid, especially when there's easy ways to fix those errors. The guards in Kyrian base could have been on Team Forsworn and let Uther to pass through and that would have actually made perfect sense since Archon was so oblivious to the threat.
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I get that Pelagos is a big victory for the trans WoW community and all, and is fine as a character otherwise, but holy heck is his (yes HIS not THEIR) voice acting bad. Julie Nathanson does a splendid job as Kleia though.
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