Mary has always played a HUGE part of my life since I was a child. She is the one part of my Catholic upbringing that has never left me. She is a sacred manifestation of The Goddess for me, she always has been, and always will be.
Love this entire topic. Just started reading "The Serpent and the Goddess" about how women have just been written out of religion for thousands of years. Really eye opening.
I feel like Mary was sort of taken over by the church against her consent, so it is not doing any harm to work with her apart from it. She feels very human to me (in a Divine way, of course), in the sense that she was forced into a situation that she never wanted, and then made to suffer extreme loss, but she was never embittered by it. She was always graceful and forgiving and open, and that doesn’t sound like the kind of Divine being who would be restricted by man made dogma.
I just found this video and have to say thank you for sharing some of your thoughts surrounding Mary. I was raised Catholic and have always had a deep connection with her. When I started down my pagan journey and eventually found witchcraft I wanted to jeep working with her but felt I needed a clean break from catholicism so I stopped. I had my dream trip to Ireland last month and found beautiful shrines to her in several garden tours and I realized I missed her and that connection. I have been slowly bringing her back and then this showed up in my TH-cam feed. I knew she had importance to you and now I got a further peak to it. Thank you! This made my soul expand with excitement. Sometimes I still fear I am doing this wrong.....
I hope your back gives you some ease soon xo Great video. I particularly appreciate the idea that deities work with us in varying ways and show us different things. For instance, my matron is Brighid, the Celtic Goddess. Everyone speaks of her as just a motherly, gentle figure, almost weak or without merit to some people. My experience with her has been quite different and I'm grateful to see another depth to her. She is exceptionally strong, tough when need be. The Morrigan briefly came into my life and I was literally warned not to work with her. She was incredibly kind and gentle with me. It's just fascinating. People do not always seem willing to see new facets of a deity!
I stumbled upon this video and it was on time. You hit the nail on the head by saying the comment about "coming from a religion with a male god-head..." So true. Thank you for putting it into words. I also, to add, an not really looking for any deity or spirit to worship or praise or whatever right now because of the same reason. I grew up in Christianity, just turned 38 in May of this year and went from Christianity to atheist/agnostic views to witchcraft. I feel like I'm home and I'm getting acquainted the home I'd not been in a long time. Blessed be 🔮🃏
Yes! And who the hell determined that a female goddess can't represent masculine archetypes? Not having a male representation of divinity does NOT equal resisting the positive facets of masculinity that we can all embody, regardless of our sex. I think people who suggest you need a male god understand nothing about gender. Neatly separating the receptive, sweet female Goddess from the assertive, organized God is just not for me. I think these people assume that all of us who exclusively work with Goddess only ever have feel-good, innocent slumber parties with our female divine guides, and that we lack the standards and structure of a male guide. Blegh, nothing could be further from the truth!
I agree! My primary goddess guide is Brighid, which, can you get more feminine/matronly than her? At the same time she spoke to me so much in how to raise a son, specifically, and how to prepare and guard my heart to interact with men after abuse for the benefit of all involved. She is a goddess of women and children, yes, but I don't know if I could stand to be around men at all unless she was in my life and I wouldn't be the mother I am.
As I return to my pagan-y/woo practices, this was such a welcome video (I missed your first goddess vid, and am looking forward to it). Your comments about Mary really resonated with me -- the church where I was confirmed is currently embroiled in a new abuse scandal and I feel, as you do, like I can -- and should -- reclaim Mary without the bs and hypocrisy of the Catholic Church.
Your words are such a blessing too, so, so many. Your a divine witch, intellectual and I send you thanks and unconditional love for always speaking in complete truths. Blessed Be
Full respect to you .as someone who is so lapsed catholic ive laped myself .i went so far from the path of Catholic faith that over the last few years ive felt a pull from Archangel Michael , Mary Magdalene.....and Sophia! So I've had a lot of shadow work to heal that * lapsed *part of me ..and came to the conclusion that i dont need to return to the church * formally * yet i know that i can work with certain elements without * catholic guilt * pah to labels .Love your work Kelly-Anne .hope your back gets better
Noo you look fine lying down!! I totally feel you on Goddess centric spirtuality, but if I could add one thing: *Most* male deities are not about toxic masculinity, and many who have toxic myths have very different energy when you connect with Them(upg) For instance, Apollo had me know that the energy I connected to was not Himself guilty "of the stories of mortals"(more upg). Anyways, He was awesome and He told me to clean my room. I think there are many approaches needed to restorebalance in this world. Goddess worship is one, and working with *healthy* and *respectful* Gods another. Not saying that you insinuated otherwise. People trying to force their way down other peoples throats is always going to be vibe down. The God(s) know that not everyone is meant to be Their herald.
BallJointed Wing Thanks for watching! I need to clarify that I am in NO way suggesting that male deities themselves are toxic masculine! I actually do work with male deity and it has helped me and healed me a lot. I am only saying that the attitude that some men have about the importance of women working with male deity IS toxic masculine.
Sorry for making a comment before I'm even two minutes into the video, but you are SO right about the intellectualizing. I really needed to hear that, thank you.
Another great video, the possessiveness/defenseness part was interesting! I also love your way to encourage other people to really try things on their own and to don't always follow what the neighbour is doing/praying to. I like the fact that to me, people seems more and more enclined to adopt individualized and personalized paradigm/beliefs and use the modern communication tools to enrich their own practice and you're one of the best living and inspiring example! Take care!
Love love hearing about all your experiences with goddess and your own goddess paradigms. I have a difficult time actually working with goddess energy. I have a patron god, and a few male spirit guides that I communicate with as well as male saints. I feel like as a woman I will absolutely connect with goddess in the future and it will be FIZZY AF and life changing, but at the moment I feel empowered by my harem of divine masculine. They are hard and yet they can be soft, and maybe it’s because they don’t understand my complexities but are willing to meet me halfway. I like that forceful and clear energy I get from them. Whereas I’m just not used to the more intuitive messages of the goddess, I find them hard to read. I feel as though nobody should ever tell you you need to work with a certain gender of god, you work with who you want to and what serves your highest good. I know for me when I do meet my goddess it will be a moment where all my shadows will be illuminated and this both excites and terrifies me. I’ll be ready soon.
Mary was the grace I sought during the beginnings of my spell craft. and she is the higher dimensional aspect of my current spell work. She is the container in which I work within.
I was brought up protestant and the Virgin Mary was consider a Pagan believe in a way, she didn't really had a big role in protestant believes other than God used her as a vessel to have Jesus... something I always had a problem with as a child, because I loved my mother so much that I would think Jesus would want to give his Mom a proper treatment in all of this savior of the world business. Both my Grandmothers were catholics and one of them was a Witch, and she adored Our Lady of Charity... so every since I started Witchcraft I have felt her (my Grandma), and I have had the need to find out more about her, so I went to see a Santero (Brujo) and he told me that she walks with me without me telling him anything about her... so ever since I have also incorporated Our Lady of Charity in my practices with deity in honor of my Grama Virginia. Thanks for your talk it was very invigorating!
Love this video. Hel is very gentle and nurturing for me. I get gentle and strong in her resolve and principles but not the harsh figure some people say.
I have the same relationship with Mary that you do. Well, not the same, obviously. Just similar in experience. 😊 She’s been around all of my life. I’ve remembered my grandmother’s altar to her since I was a child and I think, in a really genuine way, it had an influence on me being a pagan. I’ve clung to her more than I clung to any other deity in my childhood growing up Catholic. She was who I spoke to in the quiet and who I called upon for guidance. I can’t let her go and I don’t think she would want me too. I have no further relationship to Catholicism anymore, but the Blessed Mother will always be a part of me. She is the face that the Goddess chose for me.
Wonderful video. I was raised raised Catholic and struggled a lot with whether or not to include the Divine Mother Mary in my practice as a polytheist. I am so glad I did realize that she still has a place in my spiritual life. I will definitely have to get your tea with the goddess reading when it becomes available again. I can't seem to find it on your site, so I assume that all of the available spots have been filled. That's okay. I'm sure the right time will present itself. I started reading Thorn's book on traditional Wicca and am loving it. I had it on my wishlist for a while, but watching your video persuaded me to purchase it. I'm so glad I did. :-) Have a lovely weekend.
I hope your back pain eased off after you finished filming. I have back problems too and I spend most of my life lying down!! I’ve worked with Hel quite a lot the last couple of years and I absolutely find her both nurturing and motherly. She’s helped me to become more independent and like you said, disciplined. She’s also helping me with feelings of not really fitting in with society, and instead embracing my awkwardness and concentrating on what I am good at instead. I had to laugh when you admitted to feeling a bit possessive of Hel as I am the same with my matron Freya! Not all the time, but there have been occassions... haha! Great video lovely! X
I giggled when you talked about having a male god as well as a goddess. I have 3 goddess statutes & only 1 god on my altar. And he doesn't even stand in for anything unlike my goddess ones. *shrug* that's just what happened 🙃🙃
I often hear these issues about who can do what and where. I agree with you. Nobody “owns” the gods or goddesses or Mary etc. nobody “owns” Shamanism or Witchcraft. I am also a member of a “secret” society and I was having some issues with myself about “initiations” and it came to me very clearly that the “force” initiates us...not an organization or people. So...I say...don’t harm anyone, but do as you wish!! It isn’t people or organizations who validate us. We ourselves have to find the best way of living in this world and beyond. It’s up to us, and our own responsibility, what we do and how we do it.
I tried for a long time to include god worship in my practice because it the the “done thing”. There was just never a real connection there for me though so I have recently dropped it from my personal path. I think it’s just not something I need right now based on where I am and that’s ok with me. Goddess worship and the divine feminine is just where it is at for me at this time in my life.
You have a powerful way with words and it is so very exciting to see this explained. In my personal practice I do recognize the Goddess and the God. But I was drawn to the balance of feminine and masculine and the philosophy that everything in nature is a balance of opposites (no human misogyny allowed!!). For me that is my truth. Goddess and God are perfectly equal in my practice and they represent for me sacred gender as nature represents itself. So male and female and everything in between. So basically in my practice I see everything in nature as a spectrum and the gods as pillars at each end of the spectrum and everything falling in between as their creation. There are people that think because the gods are male and female that only those genders are sacred or that they are "purer". To the contrary, if their union is what sprang all things, all those who are on the spectrum of gender and sexuality are not only natural but sacred. Can you separate the chicken from the egg. It is a continuous cycle with no real end or beginning. To me they are like parents...except perfect and always working for the greater whole. Goddess is my mother. She is my heartbeat. She is also fierce like a red dawn and cataclysmic sea. But she is SHE who beckons the souls of totality back into her infinite arms. God he is my father. He is my motivation and drive. He is also gentle protecter of her sovereignty and the reminder for man to love and feel. And he is HE who sits at her side; forever equal. To me there is a tragic dance of masculine energy still holding the floor in our world. But it is not divine. It is an insecurity and a heartless lie fathers told their sons to maintain a structure of power that continues to deny feminine sovereignty. It is my hope that with the steady vibration of feminism and equalizing ideals that someday the world will see a dawn where both men and women and all in between are equal. To that I say Blessed Be! This is all my own paradigm and it has followed me since I have been a child. I am very blessed to have 4 sisters, a fierce loving mother, and a father who taught me about my emotions (as much as the culture allowed him to, but I am still on that journey). To me the feminine is venerated in esteem because honestly it needs much for fortification than the masculine does. TBH :)
This is so right on with what's going on in the sky right now. There are Black Moon Lilith themes happening, you probably know, I'm not sure. And I was thinking your back might have something to do with the Mars retrograde right now going back down in to a critical last degree of Capricorn. These topics fit with the energies right now, and is relevant to the New Moon in Pisces on the 26th! Things have been calling out to me as I get more in to my work and doors have been opening, especially since this eclipse on the 11th. Working with planets feels like it might be in the same vein as your topic. I just got a new book called The Celestial Art, Essays on Astrological Magic, and it's by Austin Coppock who you may know of. I haven't had time to get in to it, but after helping some friends with their charts, these planets seem to show themselves to me. The environment becomes enchanted. I actually got the Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft on your recommendation and lie down at night with that on. I'm a bit up there in years, yet headed toward this new way of life.
Good musings Kelly-Ann. Hoping your back pain eases off quickly 😘 In regards to a Godhead figure, I feel that working with the divine masculine may actually help me and provide some deep healing. But at this time and space “He” is not prominent in my spirituality. I am Goddess centric and I needed that at the time I started, coming from a very Male dominant background. But by saying that the God is needed opens up a big can of worms regarding the duality of deity, and so on. My position is is that as a female, I do not need a Male to make me whole, because I have the masculine within me already. So why would the Goddess? I could go on hahaha
“Your truth isn’t the truth” Is an excellent phrase. Thanks for sharing. When you mention self-flagellation it made me think of cutting. Do you see any connection between those two things? I’ve never engaged in cutting but I am inexplicably attracted to various forms of asceticism, and curious about the spiritual experiences of people who choose deprivation, abstinence, or physical pain.
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One thing I haven't found so far in my interest in this concept, so far, is a fair respect for the native, major religions if the 'magicians'. For most of us Judaism is the lens we've seen these things through. I suppose it's a sort of rebellion to not acknowledge the potency of it's achievement, but at least Crowley made that a fair and honest part of the understanding.
Love your videos! Regarding your relationship with Catholicism and appropriation of Mary, I would highly recommend The Stripping of the Altars by Eamon Duffy. He looks at the seasonal rituals embedded in the medieval liturgical calendar and goes into great detail about the way that pre-Reformation Catholicism (at least at the local level) helped keep paganism and folk magic/spirituality alive prior to Henry VIII. A lot of Catholics who are hostile to folk practices are cut off from their own history and strongly influenced by the Protestant erasure and distortion of that history.
I grew up Methodist in the US, in a city with a fairly large Catholic population (but by no means was it the dominant population - Southern Baptists are the largest group here I think). I like Thomas Merton, and the more Buddhist elements in the work of John Main. But... I basically find Buddhism more accessible than Catholicism. I don't own a rosary, but I have a lot of japa malas in various gemstones.
As you said, the masculine paradigm permeates so much of culture and to have a connection to a divine feminine has been a spiritual salve. Although I regard the absolute divine as an androgynous, polymorphic entity, it's feminine attributes have been so nourishing to much maligned aspects of myself and others. I tend to veer towards the non-dualist aspects of Kali, which can feel a little cultural appropriation-y at times, but she has always spoken to me in a very real way. On the other hand, I imbue Wonder Woman with a lot of power, which feels a little disrespectful towards the spiritual path. But comic book culture is arguably a modern mythos and she is a strong Goddess of justice, so there's that? You're an inspirational witch, and there is so much to gain from your videos. Keep well and much love.
Oh I wanted to ask you one question but I always forget! I love Goddesses in general and I try to work with two or three main ones but everyday I find myself fascinated by another! Would you have an advice on how to reconcile that? I'm not sure if working with a different goddess every month or week would be disrespectful or not in-depth enough... Apart from that loved your video and musings :) blessings xoxo
Well, there are a number of ways to tackle this depending on what your priorities are. If you really want variety and you're at a point on your journey where you seem to want to be surrounded by an array of different Divine Feminine energies without committing too much in any specific direction then perhaps you'll conclude that you just want to 'ride it out' until you settle more on a particular goddess (or small handful of them). Sometimes people just want to be surrounded by goddess imagery and learn about tonnes of goddesses, and it's kind of like a thirst for knowledge and for the goddess vibe more than anything. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with that. On the other hand, if you are feeling bothered by your 'magpie eye' and you feel like you do actually need to settle on one or two key goddesses, then your instinct is telling you that you need to practice discipline. It takes discipline for someone to really lean into a relationship with just one deity and take the time and commitment to get to know them. Discipline is good for your spiritual practice. Perhaps it's about learning to resist the urge to move on so quickly and instead training yourself to slow down and commit more fully to spending time with just one or two goddesses. Don't forget that you don't need to dedicate yourself to a goddess just because you are exploring her energy and making contact with her. You can see how it goes. Some goddesses just have a simple message for us and do not intend to stay longer. I hope this helps.
Kelly-Ann Maddox wow thank you very much for the wonderful answer! I think you're right in that dedicating to is not the same as simply connecting with or surrounding oneself with a particular goddess energy. I haven't thought of that like this... and yes, discipline is always a personal struggle for me haha
I agree that it is completely offensive when men tell me I need a God to be "balanced." It's like telling a single lady she needs a man to be complete. My Goddess is adequate on Her own, thank you. She can do anything a God can do. If she ever did desire a partner, there's no reason I couldn't represent polarity with two different Goddesses. There are so many different types of Goddesses out there; they span all the different archetypes you can think of. To say that I need a God to represent polarity is so sexist and heteronarmative. And to use the agrument about needing "balance" is particularly nonsensical because all of humanity would have to focus almost exclusively on the Goddess for a good 9 or 10 THOUSAND years before we ever approach anything close to balance. So tell the God to back the fuck up, get your dick out of my face, and let me talk to the Goddess for a couple of lifetimes at least. Who's to say balance is even something I "should" desire? I certainly don't desire a swastika to "balance out" the star of david on my altar. It's my altar and I can worship whatever I want. Men have all of the rest of the world that they have pissed all over and claimed as theirs. My altar is the one safe place I can go to get away from that. The more men tell me I need a God, the more sure I am that I don't. P.S. the only penis that belongs on my altar is my husband's and he specifically asked me to stop putting reprentations of him on my altar because he thinks it's weird.
Your words on male-identified people entering goddess work hits on something I have been struggling with for a very long time. I have worked with Lilith since she came to me at age 14. Unfortunately, her myths are limited and, of course, heavily tainted with patriarchal perspective. But that hasn't stopped with her old myths. Even on current message boards and several publications, Lilith is often portrayed as some sort of dominatrix. I have seen men literally tell other men to work with her if they are a masochist and they meant it literally, not just as a warning. In one of the few books written by Lilith devotees, there is an entry from a prominent magic worker who is now a convicted pedophile. There's no way in hell, heaven, or earth that man ever knew Lilith or respected Lilith. It hurts me that spaces and tomes dedicated to Her are defiled still by patriarchal perspectives of the defiant woman. If you are a man who comes to work with goddess or female deity, come with respect. Even if a goddess is "known" for her "sexual" energies, that is not an invitation to objectify her. She is bigger than you, stronger than you, greater than you are. And please don't ask for a spanking, jeeze!! And I always, completely agree that there is no requirement for how many or what kind of deity one must work with. Why must others care so much about our personal, spiritual practices? The way I understand it, that insistence that we must work with a male deity to balance our practice comes from a patriarchal place as well. Listen to Kelly-Ann and don't tell women what to do!
(I'm still looking thro your videos so I still might find my answer) Could you go more in-dept in your workings & worship of Mary? I've kinda been seeing her my whole life & I've always felt like something or someone was there. And as I found myself working w the Craft again the connection freaked out! So I've been trying to work out who exactly it is & signs just keep coming back to her. So I'm thinking I got quite a bit of research ahead of me.
What personification does Mary have from your perspective, is she maiden, mother or crone? And does she have a dark side? The way the Catholics and Christians view her are quite different to each other so I'm interested in knowing in comparison to theirs what your view of her is. Luv ya💋
One of my Very Most Favorite Videos that You have provided! I adore the boundaries that men need to understand that Goddess Spirituality is Women based. The Majority of Tarot Readers are Women. Step aside males, you are NOT the Center Holders of Goddess Spirituality! Duh. Out with the Patriarch! Gods are never in my Spiritual Practice. Only Goddesses.
No. Not Sexist. However, I am very educated and aware of the damages that the Patriarch has historically and still currently inflicts on humanity especially with regards to Women, worldly control that affects all Humankind, Animals and Planet Earth. The Inquisition and Churches slaughtered the Pagans and destroyed their Ancient Temples. The Patriarch stole Sacred Wisdoms such as Astrology and Tarot and secretly kept it for themselves yet demonized it for the balance of Society. Churches back then were the Government. The Patriarch. The Patriarch today is the Government. There is such a thing as Patriarchal Women. Women in the USA were arrested in the 1980's for Tarot. It was not that long ago. Women were arrested for Lesbianism through the 1960's. This is all a result of the Patriarch. It has been Women who have fought to defend their natural Goddess given Birthrights. Women are not better than Men however, we are more Powerful and is part reason for my choice in working purely with Goddesses in my Spirituality and Not Gods.
Irisi Perle we almost had a woman President. There may be sexism still but I'm not sure if day we are under complete patriarchy. We live hell of a lot better than Saudi women. We aren't more powerful. We are equal.
Irisi Perle I live in the us. I lived with a controlling guy but not all of them are the same. What I find funny about a lot of other pagans is that they will bash Christians for being misogynistic but will take from old culturals like Rome completely ignoring how sexist these cultures were
Just my own personal opinion here, but a person's spiritual path and their relationship with their deity or deities is their own business. How you choose to rock your altar is, again, your own business. To insinuate that your spiritual path is somehow imbalanced by the lack of a male figurehead on your altar is presumptuous and, to be honest, comes off as a bit dogmatic. I can only speak of my own personal experience, but I think many might be able to relate. For the first half of my life, I was fed a very skewed and dysfunctional version of the male aspect of deity, so the imbalance was in place long before I was aware of it. I left the church in my early teens but carried its indoctrination and the resulting guilt with me well into my twenties. It was only after discovering goddess based religion and spirituality that I was able to finally accept and value myself as a worthy person. So, I can easily understand why many choose to work only with the Goddess. For me personally, by focusing my spiritual path on the female aspect I was actually able to bring my spirituality into a more stable and balanced state. It took years for me to truly open myself up to connect and commune with the masculine aspect of deity again, but I finally made peace with Him and my past. It's been a slow but ultimately rewarding journey, this time around.
Okay. Finished watching this video. I've criticized you on the last one for talking about nothing. But I feel like this was good video. It was informative for anyone who is interested in some form of spiritual growth. You might have made a little bit more of a mention about using something in Shadow form, in my humble opinion. But then again I don't watch very many of your videos. They just come up sometimes, you're kind of cute, and as a Theology and philosophy student I'm interested in these sorts of artistic expressions. So good job on this one and thank you for fighting through the pain. And the nice makeup as well. LOL
Women are not better than Men however, we are more Powerful and is part reason for my choice in working purely with Goddesses in my Spirituality and Not Gods. I chose to incarnate as a Woman as it is my Honor and Privilege.
I vaguely remember you once said you worked with a patron, wasn't it Tyr? If so, I assume you've stopped working with him? Anyway, I really like your videos, all power to you. As a man I identify more with the masculine energy, but I don't feel at all threatened by the feminine or those who mostly work with the feminine archetypes. We all have preferences and it's moronic for some people to insist that we work with or adopt concepts we're not comfortable with just to appease them. If someone is secure in their masculinity or femininity (or whatever), then they shouldn't feel intimidated by anyone who works in a different paradigm. Blessed be!
I consider Tyr to be my patron, absolutely. I don't work with him actively, but he checks in with me occasionally and I know I can connect with him if need be. He has never given me the impression that he expects an altar or devotionals and that's not how our relationship works. He is an incredibly healing and powerful divine masculine force, and I suppose since I see him from my own perspective, it makes sense that he would be perfectly happy to be positioned where he is in my practice rather than clamoring for more attention or foreground. A divine masculine presence that felt demanding wouldn't last long in my spiritual framework.
I'm also wondering what the marks on your shoulders are. Are those put on by you and the same stuff as around your eyes? I know I'm focusing on pure Aesthetics. Well I mean I'm not focusing on Aesthetics purely I'm also listening to what you're saying. But, realistically, I don't think anyone would be listening to you if you look like you just crawled out of the gutter. And those marks on your shoulder really look kind of cool and I'm curious about them.
I'm just a pain old agnostic Christian. But I'll say this video was decent. I guess I'll just have a little shadow of an artsy charismatic witch woman playing in my man cave.
Well, here is a woman saying that you need to have a patron God in your worship and spiritual practice for psychological reasons and natural (nature itself) reasons. I've found more Pagans, Wiccans, and Witches rejecting all male aspects, and they are just replacing the God with the Goddess, they are still just as unbalanced as Christianity or Islam, both spiritually and psychologically. The male aspect of the God is all around you, as is the Goddess. One cannot exist without the other. It is nature. Nature is about balance. The wheel of the year is about balance. We all have aspects of the God and Goddess even within ourselves! Sometimes we are more passive, a feminine aspect, or we are extroverted, a male aspect. Maybe you should study astrology or just hang around some men and try to see things from their point of view. I don't know about you or your subs, but from what I see, your views on men are a little aggressive, shallow, and going towards bigoted.
Gullveig Here is a human saying I don't need to have anything that I don't want to have in my spiritual practice thank you very much. You can't tell someone what they need.
Gullveig This is so ignorant and tone deaf oh my goddesses. If masculine and feminine traits are in everything, then goddesses have masculine traits and therefore masculine and feminine are represented. There are sun goddesses, war goddesses, goddesses of the underworld, goddesses of strength, of aggression of gtfo of my way. Trying to tell someone what they must have in their practice to make it valid or of value is gross.
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Mary has always played a HUGE part of my life since I was a child. She is the one part of my Catholic upbringing that has never left me. She is a sacred manifestation of The Goddess for me, she always has been, and always will be.
Oh, AMEN to THAT!!
I've been denying this for the longest time, but it's true for me too.
Love this entire topic. Just started reading "The Serpent and the Goddess" about how women have just been written out of religion for thousands of years. Really eye opening.
I feel like Mary was sort of taken over by the church against her consent, so it is not doing any harm to work with her apart from it. She feels very human to me (in a Divine way, of course), in the sense that she was forced into a situation that she never wanted, and then made to suffer extreme loss, but she was never embittered by it. She was always graceful and forgiving and open, and that doesn’t sound like the kind of Divine being who would be restricted by man made dogma.
Your video that covered your travels to London to take part in the book signing with Thorn Mooney, was divine. Ty.
I just found this video and have to say thank you for sharing some of your thoughts surrounding Mary. I was raised Catholic and have always had a deep connection with her. When I started down my pagan journey and eventually found witchcraft I wanted to jeep working with her but felt I needed a clean break from catholicism so I stopped. I had my dream trip to Ireland last month and found beautiful shrines to her in several garden tours and I realized I missed her and that connection. I have been slowly bringing her back and then this showed up in my TH-cam feed. I knew she had importance to you and now I got a further peak to it. Thank you! This made my soul expand with excitement. Sometimes I still fear I am doing this wrong.....
Every time I open a video of yours I'm just so excited and tickled to hear what nickname we get that day🤣❤️
I hope your back gives you some ease soon xo Great video. I particularly appreciate the idea that deities work with us in varying ways and show us different things. For instance, my matron is Brighid, the Celtic Goddess. Everyone speaks of her as just a motherly, gentle figure, almost weak or without merit to some people. My experience with her has been quite different and I'm grateful to see another depth to her. She is exceptionally strong, tough when need be. The Morrigan briefly came into my life and I was literally warned not to work with her. She was incredibly kind and gentle with me. It's just fascinating. People do not always seem willing to see new facets of a deity!
Goddesses are like Therapists they are different with everyone who contacts them. All the relationships are different.
I stumbled upon this video and it was on time. You hit the nail on the head by saying the comment about "coming from a religion with a male god-head..." So true. Thank you for putting it into words. I also, to add, an not really looking for any deity or spirit to worship or praise or whatever right now because of the same reason. I grew up in Christianity, just turned 38 in May of this year and went from Christianity to atheist/agnostic views to witchcraft. I feel like I'm home and I'm getting acquainted the home I'd not been in a long time.
Blessed be 🔮🃏
Yes! And who the hell determined that a female goddess can't represent masculine archetypes? Not having a male representation of divinity does NOT equal resisting the positive facets of masculinity that we can all embody, regardless of our sex. I think people who suggest you need a male god understand nothing about gender. Neatly separating the receptive, sweet female Goddess from the assertive, organized God is just not for me. I think these people assume that all of us who exclusively work with Goddess only ever have feel-good, innocent slumber parties with our female divine guides, and that we lack the standards and structure of a male guide. Blegh, nothing could be further from the truth!
I agree! My primary goddess guide is Brighid, which, can you get more feminine/matronly than her? At the same time she spoke to me so much in how to raise a son, specifically, and how to prepare and guard my heart to interact with men after abuse for the benefit of all involved. She is a goddess of women and children, yes, but I don't know if I could stand to be around men at all unless she was in my life and I wouldn't be the mother I am.
As I return to my pagan-y/woo practices, this was such a welcome video (I missed your first goddess vid, and am looking forward to it). Your comments about Mary really resonated with me -- the church where I was confirmed is currently embroiled in a new abuse scandal and I feel, as you do, like I can -- and should -- reclaim Mary without the bs and hypocrisy of the Catholic Church.
Your words are such a blessing too, so, so many. Your a divine witch, intellectual and I send you thanks and unconditional love for always speaking in complete truths.
Blessed Be
Thank you so much, those words are so lovely. x
Full respect to you .as someone who is so lapsed catholic ive laped myself .i went so far from the path of Catholic faith that over the last few years ive felt a pull from Archangel Michael , Mary Magdalene.....and Sophia! So I've had a lot of shadow work to heal that * lapsed *part of me ..and came to the conclusion that i dont need to return to the church * formally * yet i know that i can work with certain elements without * catholic guilt * pah to labels .Love your work Kelly-Anne .hope your back gets better
Noo you look fine lying down!!
I totally feel you on Goddess centric spirtuality, but if I could add one thing:
*Most* male deities are not about toxic masculinity, and many who have toxic myths have very different energy when you connect with Them(upg)
For instance, Apollo had me know that the energy I connected to was not Himself guilty "of the stories of mortals"(more upg). Anyways, He was awesome and He told me to clean my room.
I think there are many approaches needed to restorebalance in this world. Goddess worship is one, and working with *healthy* and *respectful* Gods another.
Not saying that you insinuated otherwise.
People trying to force their way down other peoples throats is always going to be vibe down. The God(s) know that not everyone is meant to be Their herald.
BallJointed Wing
Thanks for watching! I need to clarify that I am in NO way suggesting that male deities themselves are toxic masculine! I actually do work with male deity and it has helped me and healed me a lot. I am only saying that the attitude that some men have about the importance of women working with male deity IS toxic masculine.
"and He told me to clean my room" is so pure 💕
Kelly-Ann Maddox EXACTLY
Sorry for making a comment before I'm even two minutes into the video, but you are SO right about the intellectualizing. I really needed to hear that, thank you.
Chrome 👍😘
Another great video, the possessiveness/defenseness part was interesting! I also love your way to encourage other people to really try things on their own and to don't always follow what the neighbour is doing/praying to. I like the fact that to me, people seems more and more enclined to adopt individualized and personalized paradigm/beliefs and use the modern communication tools to enrich their own practice and you're one of the best living and inspiring example! Take care!
Love love hearing about all your experiences with goddess and your own goddess paradigms. I have a difficult time actually working with goddess energy. I have a patron god, and a few male spirit guides that I communicate with as well as male saints. I feel like as a woman I will absolutely connect with goddess in the future and it will be FIZZY AF and life changing, but at the moment I feel empowered by my harem of divine masculine. They are hard and yet they can be soft, and maybe it’s because they don’t understand my complexities but are willing to meet me halfway. I like that forceful and clear energy I get from them. Whereas I’m just not used to the more intuitive messages of the goddess, I find them hard to read. I feel as though nobody should ever tell you you need to work with a certain gender of god, you work with who you want to and what serves your highest good. I know for me when I do meet my goddess it will be a moment where all my shadows will be illuminated and this both excites and terrifies me. I’ll be ready soon.
Mary was the grace I sought during the beginnings of my spell craft. and she is the higher dimensional aspect of my current spell work. She is the container in which I work within.
I was brought up protestant and the Virgin Mary was consider a Pagan believe in a way, she didn't really had a big role in protestant believes other than God used her as a vessel to have Jesus... something I always had a problem with as a child, because I loved my mother so much that I would think Jesus would want to give his Mom a proper treatment in all of this savior of the world business. Both my Grandmothers were catholics and one of them was a Witch, and she adored Our Lady of Charity... so every since I started Witchcraft I have felt her (my Grandma), and I have had the need to find out more about her, so I went to see a Santero (Brujo) and he told me that she walks with me without me telling him anything about her... so ever since I have also incorporated Our Lady of Charity in my practices with deity in honor of my Grama Virginia. Thanks for your talk it was very invigorating!
Love this video. Hel is very gentle and nurturing for me. I get gentle and strong in her resolve and principles but not the harsh figure some people say.
I have the same relationship with Mary that you do. Well, not the same, obviously. Just similar in experience. 😊 She’s been around all of my life. I’ve remembered my grandmother’s altar to her since I was a child and I think, in a really genuine way, it had an influence on me being a pagan. I’ve clung to her more than I clung to any other deity in my childhood growing up Catholic. She was who I spoke to in the quiet and who I called upon for guidance. I can’t let her go and I don’t think she would want me too. I have no further relationship to Catholicism anymore, but the Blessed Mother will always be a part of me. She is the face that the Goddess chose for me.
Love this video 💖 thanks for your as ever fantastic views! Hope ur backs better soon 💕
Thanks, doll! x
I hope your back is feeling better today. Hugs
Wonderful video. I was raised raised Catholic and struggled a lot with whether or not to include the Divine Mother Mary in my practice as a polytheist. I am so glad I did realize that she still has a place in my spiritual life. I will definitely have to get your tea with the goddess reading when it becomes available again. I can't seem to find it on your site, so I assume that all of the available spots have been filled. That's okay. I'm sure the right time will present itself. I started reading Thorn's book on traditional Wicca and am loving it. I had it on my wishlist for a while, but watching your video persuaded me to purchase it. I'm so glad I did. :-) Have a lovely weekend.
Hope you llbe better soon! Many blessings 🌹
I hope your back pain eased off after you finished filming. I have back problems too and I spend most of my life lying down!!
I’ve worked with Hel quite a lot the last couple of years and I absolutely find her both nurturing and motherly. She’s helped me to become more independent and like you said, disciplined. She’s also helping me with feelings of not really fitting in with society, and instead embracing my awkwardness and concentrating on what I am good at instead.
I had to laugh when you admitted to feeling a bit possessive of Hel as I am the same with my matron Freya! Not all the time, but there have been occassions... haha!
Great video lovely! X
Great video keep it up Kelly
you are my favorite person in the world.
I giggled when you talked about having a male god as well as a goddess. I have 3 goddess statutes & only 1 god on my altar. And he doesn't even stand in for anything unlike my goddess ones. *shrug* that's just what happened 🙃🙃
Thank you for your views and being so inspirational. Much respect 🌛🌝🌜
I often hear these issues about who can do what and where. I agree with you. Nobody “owns” the gods or goddesses or Mary etc. nobody “owns” Shamanism or Witchcraft. I am also a member of a “secret” society and I was having some issues with myself about “initiations” and it came to me very clearly that the “force” initiates us...not an organization or people. So...I say...don’t harm anyone, but do as you wish!! It isn’t people or organizations who validate us. We ourselves have to find the best way of living in this world and beyond. It’s up to us, and our own responsibility, what we do and how we do it.
Yaaaas More of this please
Oh and thank you for answering my question ⭐️
I tried for a long time to include god worship in my practice because it the the “done thing”. There was just never a real connection there for me though so I have recently dropped it from my personal path. I think it’s just not something I need right now based on where I am and that’s ok with me. Goddess worship and the divine feminine is just where it is at for me at this time in my life.
Just watched the rest of your video and you kinda answered my question 😁
I feel connected to the divine masculine aspect, but I find myself longing for a connection to the feminine as well
You have a powerful way with words and it is so very exciting to see this explained. In my personal practice I do recognize the Goddess and the God. But I was drawn to the balance of feminine and masculine and the philosophy that everything in nature is a balance of opposites (no human misogyny allowed!!). For me that is my truth. Goddess and God are perfectly equal in my practice and they represent for me sacred gender as nature represents itself. So male and female and everything in between. So basically in my practice I see everything in nature as a spectrum and the gods as pillars at each end of the spectrum and everything falling in between as their creation. There are people that think because the gods are male and female that only those genders are sacred or that they are "purer". To the contrary, if their union is what sprang all things, all those who are on the spectrum of gender and sexuality are not only natural but sacred. Can you separate the chicken from the egg. It is a continuous cycle with no real end or beginning.
To me they are like parents...except perfect and always working for the greater whole.
Goddess is my mother. She is my heartbeat. She is also fierce like a red dawn and cataclysmic sea. But she is SHE who beckons the souls of totality back into her infinite arms.
God he is my father. He is my motivation and drive. He is also gentle protecter of her sovereignty and the reminder for man to love and feel. And he is HE who sits at her side; forever equal.
To me there is a tragic dance of masculine energy still holding the floor in our world. But it is not divine. It is an insecurity and a heartless lie fathers told their sons to maintain a structure of power that continues to deny feminine sovereignty. It is my hope that with the steady vibration of feminism and equalizing ideals that someday the world will see a dawn where both men and women and all in between are equal.
To that I say Blessed Be!
This is all my own paradigm and it has followed me since I have been a child. I am very blessed to have 4 sisters, a fierce loving mother, and a father who taught me about my emotions (as much as the culture allowed him to, but I am still on that journey). To me the feminine is venerated in esteem because honestly it needs much for fortification than the masculine does. TBH :)
I love this response. You have a real way with words. Thank you for sharing this interesting slice of your path! x
This is so right on with what's going on in the sky right now. There are Black Moon Lilith themes happening, you probably know, I'm not sure. And I was thinking your back might have something to do with the Mars retrograde right now going back down in to a critical last degree of Capricorn. These topics fit with the energies right now, and is relevant to the New Moon in Pisces on the 26th! Things have been calling out to me as I get more in to my work and doors have been opening, especially since this eclipse on the 11th. Working with planets feels like it might be in the same vein as your topic. I just got a new book called The Celestial Art, Essays on Astrological Magic, and it's by Austin Coppock who you may know of. I haven't had time to get in to it, but after helping some friends with their charts, these planets seem to show themselves to me. The environment becomes enchanted. I actually got the Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft on your recommendation and lie down at night with that on. I'm a bit up there in years, yet headed toward this new way of life.
Kinda enjoying the Plateau tbh
Also the make up is very cool. I'm getting hypnotized. AM I a female witch? 😮
No. I like the make up on you. Fantastic.
Good musings Kelly-Ann.
Hoping your back pain eases off quickly 😘
In regards to a Godhead figure, I feel that working with the divine masculine may actually help me and provide some deep healing. But at this time and space “He” is not prominent in my spirituality. I am Goddess centric and I needed that at the time I started, coming from a very Male dominant background.
But by saying that the God is needed opens up a big can of worms regarding the duality of deity, and so on.
My position is is that as a female, I do not need a Male to make me whole, because I have the masculine within me already. So why would the Goddess?
I could go on hahaha
“Your truth isn’t the truth” Is an excellent phrase. Thanks for sharing. When you mention self-flagellation it made me think of cutting. Do you see any connection between those two things? I’ve never engaged in cutting but I am inexplicably attracted to various forms of asceticism, and curious about the spiritual experiences of people who choose deprivation, abstinence, or physical pain.
I love everything you say so true
Luv ya Babe .. O Yeah .. the whole ME MAN ... you woman... reaction YES .. still working this out , and I'm 58 !! ... doing the work tho, and it's a process still .. but loving the process
Kelly-Ann the Reclining Witch. :p
I pray The Rosary of Mary in Latin but I’m deffo a Chaote
One thing I haven't found so far in my interest in this concept, so far, is a fair respect for the native, major religions if the 'magicians'. For most of us Judaism is the lens we've seen these things through. I suppose it's a sort of rebellion to not acknowledge the potency of it's achievement, but at least Crowley made that a fair and honest part of the understanding.
Love your videos! Regarding your relationship with Catholicism and appropriation of Mary, I would highly recommend The Stripping of the Altars by Eamon Duffy. He looks at the seasonal rituals embedded in the medieval liturgical calendar and goes into great detail about the way that pre-Reformation Catholicism (at least at the local level) helped keep paganism and folk magic/spirituality alive prior to Henry VIII. A lot of Catholics who are hostile to folk practices are cut off from their own history and strongly influenced by the Protestant erasure and distortion of that history.
Professor Noodles
Oooohhh, this is such a great recommendation and a valuable insight. Thank you! 😍
I grew up Methodist in the US, in a city with a fairly large Catholic population (but by no means was it the dominant population - Southern Baptists are the largest group here I think). I like Thomas Merton, and the more Buddhist elements in the work of John Main. But... I basically find Buddhism more accessible than Catholicism. I don't own a rosary, but I have a lot of japa malas in various gemstones.
Do you have a lot of Aquarius in your chart? U seem very rebellious which I love
As you said, the masculine paradigm permeates so much of culture and to have a connection to a divine feminine has been a spiritual salve. Although I regard the absolute divine as an androgynous, polymorphic entity, it's feminine attributes have been so nourishing to much maligned aspects of myself and others. I tend to veer towards the non-dualist aspects of Kali, which can feel a little cultural appropriation-y at times, but she has always spoken to me in a very real way. On the other hand, I imbue Wonder Woman with a lot of power, which feels a little disrespectful towards the spiritual path. But comic book culture is arguably a modern mythos and she is a strong Goddess of justice, so there's that? You're an inspirational witch, and there is so much to gain from your videos. Keep well and much love.
Oh I wanted to ask you one question but I always forget! I love Goddesses in general and I try to work with two or three main ones but everyday I find myself fascinated by another! Would you have an advice on how to reconcile that? I'm not sure if working with a different goddess every month or week would be disrespectful or not in-depth enough...
Apart from that loved your video and musings :) blessings xoxo
Well, there are a number of ways to tackle this depending on what your priorities are. If you really want variety and you're at a point on your journey where you seem to want to be surrounded by an array of different Divine Feminine energies without committing too much in any specific direction then perhaps you'll conclude that you just want to 'ride it out' until you settle more on a particular goddess (or small handful of them). Sometimes people just want to be surrounded by goddess imagery and learn about tonnes of goddesses, and it's kind of like a thirst for knowledge and for the goddess vibe more than anything. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with that.
On the other hand, if you are feeling bothered by your 'magpie eye' and you feel like you do actually need to settle on one or two key goddesses, then your instinct is telling you that you need to practice discipline. It takes discipline for someone to really lean into a relationship with just one deity and take the time and commitment to get to know them. Discipline is good for your spiritual practice. Perhaps it's about learning to resist the urge to move on so quickly and instead training yourself to slow down and commit more fully to spending time with just one or two goddesses.
Don't forget that you don't need to dedicate yourself to a goddess just because you are exploring her energy and making contact with her. You can see how it goes. Some goddesses just have a simple message for us and do not intend to stay longer. I hope this helps.
Kelly-Ann Maddox wow thank you very much for the wonderful answer! I think you're right in that dedicating to is not the same as simply connecting with or surrounding oneself with a particular goddess energy. I haven't thought of that like this... and yes, discipline is always a personal struggle for me haha
I agree that it is completely offensive when men tell me I need a God to be "balanced." It's like telling a single lady she needs a man to be complete. My Goddess is adequate on Her own, thank you. She can do anything a God can do. If she ever did desire a partner, there's no reason I couldn't represent polarity with two different Goddesses. There are so many different types of Goddesses out there; they span all the different archetypes you can think of. To say that I need a God to represent polarity is so sexist and heteronarmative. And to use the agrument about needing "balance" is particularly nonsensical because all of humanity would have to focus almost exclusively on the Goddess for a good 9 or 10 THOUSAND years before we ever approach anything close to balance. So tell the God to back the fuck up, get your dick out of my face, and let me talk to the Goddess for a couple of lifetimes at least. Who's to say balance is even something I "should" desire? I certainly don't desire a swastika to "balance out" the star of david on my altar. It's my altar and I can worship whatever I want. Men have all of the rest of the world that they have pissed all over and claimed as theirs. My altar is the one safe place I can go to get away from that. The more men tell me I need a God, the more sure I am that I don't.
P.S. the only penis that belongs on my altar is my husband's and he specifically asked me to stop putting reprentations of him on my altar because he thinks it's weird.
Heather G HELL YA in fact my matron deity was FEARED by Zeus and she has all the possible polarity she needs thank you very much! lol. forreal though
@@ihatemickiegee That is bad ass.
Your words on male-identified people entering goddess work hits on something I have been struggling with for a very long time. I have worked with Lilith since she came to me at age 14. Unfortunately, her myths are limited and, of course, heavily tainted with patriarchal perspective. But that hasn't stopped with her old myths. Even on current message boards and several publications, Lilith is often portrayed as some sort of dominatrix. I have seen men literally tell other men to work with her if they are a masochist and they meant it literally, not just as a warning. In one of the few books written by Lilith devotees, there is an entry from a prominent magic worker who is now a convicted pedophile. There's no way in hell, heaven, or earth that man ever knew Lilith or respected Lilith. It hurts me that spaces and tomes dedicated to Her are defiled still by patriarchal perspectives of the defiant woman. If you are a man who comes to work with goddess or female deity, come with respect. Even if a goddess is "known" for her "sexual" energies, that is not an invitation to objectify her. She is bigger than you, stronger than you, greater than you are. And please don't ask for a spanking, jeeze!!
And I always, completely agree that there is no requirement for how many or what kind of deity one must work with. Why must others care so much about our personal, spiritual practices? The way I understand it, that insistence that we must work with a male deity to balance our practice comes from a patriarchal place as well. Listen to Kelly-Ann and don't tell women what to do!
You're glowing today girl ! 💕😊
(I'm still looking thro your videos so I still might find my answer) Could you go more in-dept in your workings & worship of Mary? I've kinda been seeing her my whole life & I've always felt like something or someone was there. And as I found myself working w the Craft again the connection freaked out! So I've been trying to work out who exactly it is & signs just keep coming back to her. So I'm thinking I got quite a bit of research ahead of me.
What personification does Mary have from your perspective, is she maiden, mother or crone? And does she have a dark side? The way the Catholics and Christians view her are quite different to each other so I'm interested in knowing in comparison to theirs what your view of her is. Luv ya💋
One of my Very Most Favorite Videos that You have provided! I adore the boundaries that men need to understand that Goddess Spirituality is Women based. The Majority of Tarot Readers are Women. Step aside males, you are NOT the Center Holders of Goddess Spirituality! Duh. Out with the Patriarch! Gods are never in my Spiritual Practice. Only Goddesses.
Irisi Perle you sound pretty sexist no offence
No. Not Sexist. However, I am very educated and aware of the damages that the Patriarch has historically and still currently inflicts on humanity especially with regards to Women, worldly control that affects all Humankind, Animals and Planet Earth. The Inquisition and Churches slaughtered the Pagans and destroyed their Ancient Temples. The Patriarch stole Sacred Wisdoms such as Astrology and Tarot and secretly kept it for themselves yet demonized it for the balance of Society. Churches back then were the Government. The Patriarch. The Patriarch today is the Government. There is such a thing as Patriarchal Women. Women in the USA were arrested in the 1980's for Tarot. It was not that long ago. Women were arrested for Lesbianism through the 1960's. This is all a result of the Patriarch. It has been Women who have fought to defend their natural Goddess given Birthrights. Women are not better than Men however, we are more Powerful and is part reason for my choice in working purely with Goddesses in my Spirituality and Not Gods.
Irisi Perle we almost had a woman President. There may be sexism still but I'm not sure if day we are under complete patriarchy. We live hell of a lot better than Saudi women. We aren't more powerful. We are equal.
You don't know
Irisi Perle I live in the us. I lived with a controlling guy but not all of them are the same. What I find funny about a lot of other pagans is that they will bash Christians for being misogynistic but will take from old culturals like Rome completely ignoring how sexist these cultures were
thank you for saying 'Ireland' and not 'The Republic of Ireland' :)
Just my own personal opinion here, but a person's spiritual path and their relationship with their deity or deities is their own business. How you choose to rock your altar is, again, your own business. To insinuate that your spiritual path is somehow imbalanced by the lack of a male figurehead on your altar is presumptuous and, to be honest, comes off as a bit dogmatic.
I can only speak of my own personal experience, but I think many might be able to relate. For the first half of my life, I was fed a very skewed and dysfunctional version of the male aspect of deity, so the imbalance was in place long before I was aware of it. I left the church in my early teens but carried its indoctrination and the resulting guilt with me well into my twenties. It was only after discovering goddess based religion and spirituality that I was able to finally accept and value myself as a worthy person. So, I can easily understand why many choose to work only with the Goddess. For me personally, by focusing my spiritual path on the female aspect I was actually able to bring my spirituality into a more stable and balanced state.
It took years for me to truly open myself up to connect and commune with the masculine aspect of deity again, but I finally made peace with Him and my past. It's been a slow but ultimately rewarding journey, this time around.
Okay. Finished watching this video. I've criticized you on the last one for talking about nothing. But I feel like this was good video. It was informative for anyone who is interested in some form of spiritual growth. You might have made a little bit more of a mention about using something in Shadow form, in my humble opinion. But then again I don't watch very many of your videos. They just come up sometimes, you're kind of cute, and as a Theology and philosophy student I'm interested in these sorts of artistic expressions. So good job on this one and thank you for fighting through the pain. And the nice makeup as well. LOL
Women are not better than Men however, we are more Powerful and is part reason for my choice in working purely with Goddesses in my Spirituality and Not Gods. I chose to incarnate as a Woman as it is my Honor and Privilege.
A goddess for god sake.
:D I internally laughed at that when I was editing this vid!!
I vaguely remember you once said you worked with a patron, wasn't it Tyr? If so, I assume you've stopped working with him?
Anyway, I really like your videos, all power to you. As a man I identify more with the masculine energy, but I don't feel at all threatened by the feminine or those who mostly work with the feminine archetypes. We all have preferences and it's moronic for some people to insist that we work with or adopt concepts we're not comfortable with just to appease them. If someone is secure in their masculinity or femininity (or whatever), then they shouldn't feel intimidated by anyone who works in a different paradigm. Blessed be!
I consider Tyr to be my patron, absolutely. I don't work with him actively, but he checks in with me occasionally and I know I can connect with him if need be. He has never given me the impression that he expects an altar or devotionals and that's not how our relationship works. He is an incredibly healing and powerful divine masculine force, and I suppose since I see him from my own perspective, it makes sense that he would be perfectly happy to be positioned where he is in my practice rather than clamoring for more attention or foreground. A divine masculine presence that felt demanding wouldn't last long in my spiritual framework.
Ahh, that's super interesting and fascinating, thanks for sharing :)
I'm also wondering what the marks on your shoulders are. Are those put on by you and the same stuff as around your eyes?
I know I'm focusing on pure Aesthetics. Well I mean I'm not focusing on Aesthetics purely I'm also listening to what you're saying. But, realistically, I don't think anyone would be listening to you if you look like you just crawled out of the gutter. And those marks on your shoulder really look kind of cool and I'm curious about them.
I'm just a pain old agnostic Christian. But I'll say this video was decent. I guess I'll just have a little shadow of an artsy charismatic witch woman playing in my man cave.
Well, here is a woman saying that you need to have a patron God in your worship and spiritual practice for psychological reasons and natural (nature itself) reasons. I've found more Pagans, Wiccans, and Witches rejecting all male aspects, and they are just replacing the God with the Goddess, they are still just as unbalanced as Christianity or Islam, both spiritually and psychologically. The male aspect of the God is all around you, as is the Goddess. One cannot exist without the other. It is nature. Nature is about balance. The wheel of the year is about balance. We all have aspects of the God and Goddess even within ourselves! Sometimes we are more passive, a feminine aspect, or we are extroverted, a male aspect. Maybe you should study astrology or just hang around some men and try to see things from their point of view. I don't know about you or your subs, but from what I see, your views on men are a little aggressive, shallow, and going towards bigoted.
Gullveig Here is a human saying I don't need to have anything that I don't want to have in my spiritual practice thank you very much. You can't tell someone what they need.
Gullveig This is so ignorant and tone deaf oh my goddesses. If masculine and feminine traits are in everything, then goddesses have masculine traits and therefore masculine and feminine are represented. There are sun goddesses, war goddesses, goddesses of the underworld, goddesses of strength, of aggression of gtfo of my way. Trying to tell someone what they must have in their practice to make it valid or of value is gross.