It's interesting because if Katie hadn't looked into the future, probably none of that would have ever happened. It's a perfect analogy to the double-slit experiment, in that the act of observing changes the outcome.
What got me was not just the fact that Lyndon falls, but he falls in every outcome/ every alternate world. During their conversation, Lyndon and Katie, she says that standing there proves his faith because there will be some worlds where he dies and others where he lives. The ones where he lives he has his job back at devs. But she knows damn well that there are no times in which Lyndon lives.
I don't think he fell on every outcome though or at least he shouldn't. That would contradict MWI...which the show already said was correct. So there ARE timelines/branches Lyndon is alive if every possibility moment to moment that is allowed by the laws of physics happens in some branch. It just happened to not be the branch the story was in. Otherwise it makes no sense. Balancing on that edge is no way something that breaks laws of physics. From Lyndon's perspective he's still chillin' on that edge. He's good.
@@litafbobpompeani7711 I think Katie pushed him. Many Worlds does not mean infinite worlds... the moment Lyndon got up on the ledge, his fate was sealed. There are presumably worlds where he is still alive, but in those worlds he never got up on the ledge. Maybe he never even joined devs.
There is a brief clip at the start of the episode that looks like Lyndon sitting at the foot of the dam which would show one of the worlds where he survived (or didn't fall in the first place). Perhaps its the simulation version?
I've got a condition that leaves me wracked with pain, had a pain-spike just now and listening to this with headphones took me away completely. Exactly what I needed so a big thank you for uploading!
Traduction française donnée en sous-titres : Je travaille tout le jour et me soûle à la nuit tombée. À quatre heures dans une nuit sans bruit, je fixe le néant. Bientôt, la lumière à travers les rideaux va filtrer. D'ici là, j'observe ce qui rôde à chaque instant : la mort inépuisable. L'esprit se vide, aveuglé. Ce n'est pas le remords, la bonté négligée, l'amour non prodigué, le temps arraché, en vain. Il réagit au néant absolu et infini, à l'extinction certaine vers laquelle nous avançons, qui va nous engouffrer à tout jamais. Ne pas être ici, n'être nulle part, et bientôt. Il n'est rien de plus horrible, de plus vrai. C'est une peur particulière qu'aucune ruse ne dissipe. La religion a essayé, immense brocart musical dévoré par les mites, créée pour vendre l'illusion de l'éternité. Et l'idée sournoise qu'aucun être rationnel ne peut redouter ce qu'il ne ressentira pas. Sans voir que c'est cela que nous redoutons. Rien à voir, rien à entendre, rien à toucher, à goûter, à sentir. Rien qui ne donne vie à la pensée. Rien à aimer, rien à quoi se raccrocher. L'anesthésie dont personne ne revient. Elle demeure là, au bord du champ de vision. Une minuscule tache diffuse. Un frisson constant qui freine chaque élan jusqu'à l'indécision. La plupart des choses n'adviendront jamais. Celle-ci, si.
A realistic Lyndon would have probably realized that the outcome was not down to the "quantum fluctuations of the air", but to the macroscopic wind, and the ability of their macroscopic brain and muscles to maintain their balance.
Lyndon in the show is a young male character, age 19 or so. Alex Garland was interviewed about Cailee Spaeny. To paraphrase, he reflected that her physical features captured the boyish pre puberty look he wanted and could not find a male of age as men's bodies change too much during puberty.
TyroKJY Indeed, but 19 is not pre-pubescent. 😝 Linden looks like a 12-year-old boy, and I suspect they just say he’s 19 to avoid any kind of pedophilia charge.
ckeilah I also had the impression that Lyndon was either supposed to be trans or some kind of child prodigy. He is much shorter than the other men in the show, so perhaps his intended age in concept was more like 15/16.
One of the most beautiful scenes I've ever seen on television
I wouldn't call it beautiful, but it's definitely the main reason I love science fiction.
Cannot agree more!!
I knew it was going to happen, but I was still deeply upset by his fall. Cailee Spaeny was great as Lyndon.
It's interesting because if Katie hadn't looked into the future, probably none of that would have ever happened. It's a perfect analogy to the double-slit experiment, in that the act of observing changes the outcome.
This kinda feeds into avengers endgame. Dr strange couldnt tell stark if this timeline was the right one because it wouldnt happen if he did.
But doesn't she say that future is fixed and you can't change future no matter what ?
the machine is part of then determinism
This would happen anyway, the mindblow is that she saw it and didn't change it.
What got me was not just the fact that Lyndon falls, but he falls in every outcome/ every alternate world. During their conversation, Lyndon and Katie, she says that standing there proves his faith because there will be some worlds where he dies and others where he lives. The ones where he lives he has his job back at devs. But she knows damn well that there are no times in which Lyndon lives.
I don't think he fell on every outcome though or at least he shouldn't. That would contradict MWI...which the show already said was correct. So there ARE timelines/branches Lyndon is alive if every possibility moment to moment that is allowed by the laws of physics happens in some branch. It just happened to not be the branch the story was in. Otherwise it makes no sense. Balancing on that edge is no way something that breaks laws of physics. From Lyndon's perspective he's still chillin' on that edge. He's good.
@@litafbobpompeani7711 I think Katie pushed him. Many Worlds does not mean infinite worlds... the moment Lyndon got up on the ledge, his fate was sealed. There are presumably worlds where he is still alive, but in those worlds he never got up on the ledge. Maybe he never even joined devs.
There is a brief clip at the start of the episode that looks like Lyndon sitting at the foot of the dam which would show one of the worlds where he survived (or didn't fall in the first place). Perhaps its the simulation version?
it was a played manipulation by her. He was stupid here. They wanted him gone. He knew how they eliminate people that dont follow rules in devs
I've got a condition that leaves me wracked with pain, had a pain-spike just now and listening to this with headphones took me away completely. Exactly what I needed so a big thank you for uploading!
This is one of the best TV shows ever. Masterpiece.
This was one of the greatest monologues I have witnessed in recent history. This series is criminally underrated
This is the best use of poetry (one hell of a dark poem) since Ozymandias in Breaking Bad.
Good lord not only does this scene speak to oneself but what’s being said pierces every weary soul.
*Most things will never happen... this one will*
Haunting.
Could you post the lecture scene and the following scene where she gets the job offer?
He sounds alot like Arnold/Bernard from Westworld.
Traduction française donnée en sous-titres :
Je travaille tout le jour et me soûle à la nuit tombée.
À quatre heures dans une nuit sans bruit, je fixe le néant.
Bientôt, la lumière à travers les rideaux va filtrer.
D'ici là, j'observe ce qui rôde à chaque instant : la mort inépuisable.
L'esprit se vide, aveuglé.
Ce n'est pas le remords, la bonté négligée, l'amour non prodigué, le temps arraché, en vain.
Il réagit au néant absolu et infini, à l'extinction certaine vers laquelle nous avançons, qui va nous engouffrer à tout jamais.
Ne pas être ici, n'être nulle part, et bientôt.
Il n'est rien de plus horrible, de plus vrai.
C'est une peur particulière qu'aucune ruse ne dissipe.
La religion a essayé, immense brocart musical dévoré par les mites, créée pour vendre l'illusion de l'éternité.
Et l'idée sournoise qu'aucun être rationnel ne peut redouter ce qu'il ne ressentira pas.
Sans voir que c'est cela que nous redoutons.
Rien à voir, rien à entendre, rien à toucher, à goûter, à sentir.
Rien qui ne donne vie à la pensée.
Rien à aimer, rien à quoi se raccrocher.
L'anesthésie dont personne ne revient.
Elle demeure là, au bord du champ de vision.
Une minuscule tache diffuse.
Un frisson constant qui freine chaque élan jusqu'à l'indécision.
La plupart des choses n'adviendront jamais.
Celle-ci, si.
no doubt she pushed hom
Its crazy how realistic this show is.
A realistic Lyndon would have probably realized that the outcome was not down to the "quantum fluctuations of the air", but to the macroscopic wind, and the ability of their macroscopic brain and muscles to maintain their balance.
The kid, as annoying as he was, just wanted his job back, the only life he understood.
Am I the only person who didn't realise that Lyndon is played by a female? Is the Lyndon character supposed to be male or female?
Lyndon in the show is a young male character, age 19 or so. Alex Garland was interviewed about Cailee Spaeny. To paraphrase, he reflected that her physical features captured the boyish pre puberty look he wanted and could not find a male of age as men's bodies change too much during puberty.
How fitting for Santa Cruz! 😄
i think he is supposed to be a trans male
TyroKJY Indeed, but 19 is not pre-pubescent. 😝 Linden looks like a 12-year-old boy, and I suspect they just say he’s 19 to avoid any kind of pedophilia charge.
ckeilah I also had the impression that Lyndon was either supposed to be trans or some kind of child prodigy. He is much shorter than the other men in the show, so perhaps his intended age in concept was more like 15/16.
Has anyone else noticed that NONE of the other outcomes showed him not falling.
How can you stay alive in such position, it's impossible in any of the worlds.
Perhaps in other universes he would have jumped with more power and fallen into the water instead of the concrete.
Am I the only one that thinks she pushed him?
www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48422/aubade-56d229a6e2f07 let’s give credit where credit is due.
He sounds like Leonard Cohen
didnt like this scene considering how intelligent Lyndon was. He could not guess she was playing him. They needed him gone... so theres that.