The Unbreakable American Grit - M60A1 (AOS) - War Thunder
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The M60A1 AOS instantly became my favorite tank when I first got it. It actually has a pretty good stock grind as the APDS is better than the HEAT imo. The slow speed of this tank doesn’t matter too much if you know how to play it correctly.
T55A is similar but much better though.
@@neneseal5182 It’s not about if it’s better, it’s about the fun. And fun I have with 8.0 USA
I love all the m60 tanks so much
@@TheAmericanLarper bruh what planet are you on. Playing America at 8.0 is basically a test to see how patient you are because of how shit everything is. All your tanks are extremely sub par and super expensive, other countries have by far better tanks, you have no options for cas and to top it off you are basically guaranteed to get completely rolled every game.
@@casematecardinal True.
Sucks even more once Gaijjin artifically nerfs M1's and other american top tier weapons for no other reason but to stop Russian feelings from being hurt
Just started getting into this tank after 2 years of owning it, and it’s already my favorite tank. Sometimes I get way too confident playing it 😂
The whole Maus sequence was absolutely hilarious, that plane at the end flying by and having that weird engine sound also cracked me the hell up at the end! 🤣🤣
T95E1 is a bit problematic - its APFSDS has noticeable lateral deviation sometimes, making me feel like M60A2's slow ass HEAT is even more accurate than that
M60a2 heat is almost 100% accurate for some reason i never had any problem of shell turning away from crosshair
@@jPlanerv2 Agree! That's why I'd rather use M60A2 (with laser rangefinder) than fully modified T95E1. Especially after a Leo 1A1's turret bounced 3 of my APFSDS rounds.
@@raywong3211 I hate T95E1 gun i think its one of or even the most inacurate gun in game also its dart does 0 dmg apds on m60 does more.
I feel the worst APFSDS accuracy award has to go to the KPZ-70 (and its counterparts ofc). Damn thing can't hit a barn from a stick-throw away with that fat stumpy barrel.
@@bickboose9364 that's one as well i hate all US darts below 10.0
Top tier is unenjoyable for me because I’m constantly having to think about repair costs. Some tanks take 3-4 kills just to make up its repair cost in the likely event you die. The problem with this is that if you invest more than 1-2 vehicles you’ll take serious SL losses if you lose and barely any profits if you win. It’s even worse for players that are just being introduced to higher BRs where they’re still learning how to deal with maps and vehicles that can kill you 2 seconds out of spawn or across the map. During that phase they’re dying without or with few kills a LOT and when they’re paying 7-12k per tank it’s just not sustainable.
8.0-8.3 is probably they best BR in the game. When you are up tier, you start seeing second gen MBT, more Germen and Chinese armored cars and missile launcher. When you are down tier you still got first gen MBT, traditional MT, HT, improvement of first gen MBT and IFV. The environment is so diverse in 8.0-8.3.
Best of all you won't really get that many people who only got one high tier premium which ruin your gameplay. People who play this BR generally know what they are doing and will put up a good fight. Sad that tanks in this BR is expensive AF to play.
Especially with the m60aos going down to 8.0 that USA lineup has been one of my favorite. It’s good but not overpowered. The Bradley and m551 are a lot of fun. The m163 is also the first good USA AA since the m16
Yup im finding the same, you get some decent early jets with some guided munitions for aome countrys or atleast good attacker and deffinitly far less single spawners then you have to deal with if you go any higher. I hope gajjin will do something about the single spawns eventually, meybe just make a game mode that u only spawn once cause they kinda ruin the game at high br levels
@@steveshumate1983 lmao its not even good. Its fucking horrible. You get bodied by all the other nations that already have thermals and apfsds while the best tank which is debatable you have access to has the lowest penetrating apds unless you count ww2 tanks. The aos is on par with the centurion mark 3 but at a higher br. I mean you have heat I guess, big woop since you are already fighting mbts with composite armor, oh and hesh, that doesn't work on Russian tanks anyway because reasons. Oh wait but you have a range funder which is already outpaced by other nations with laser rangefinders. Oh and the Sheridan, a worse IT1 with one of the worst atgms in the game and literally no armor. Oh but how could I forget about the t95e1 which is the worst version of itself because of course it is, and despite being slow, having no stabilizer and having an apfsds that is by a large margin worse, is still double the repair cost of a t55a. Oh and the m163 the lovely spaa that is open topped is slow as balls and lacks a search radar is more expensive than the zsu-23-4 and is a higher br than the zsu-37-2. Because of course it is. There are only two tanks that are even passable and thats a pretty low bar and those are the m60a2 and the Bradley. Oh and of course because gaijin just fucking hates American players, you have no competitive cas options unless you push your whole line up to 8.3 which opens you up to having to fight bmp2ms and the myriad of german lights which will fuck you up. So good unless you have two braincells to rub together.
@@casematecardinal Meh, feels better to use than the M48A1 and bounces APFSDS from time to time, solid tank imho
YESS a classic. I love playing this tank, just because its historical value, its the good looking variant of the M60 and stabilizer
8:15 well, that's a maus-trap for ya :D
I have top-tier Italy, by which I mean I have 10.7 which gets up-tiered into top-tier. I refuse to stock grind with HEATFS, so instead I've been spading everything before it and researching the whole 10.7 lineup before I inevitably try again. Gaijin really has done their best to make getting into top-tier incredibly time-consuming and then extremely frustrating once you're there.
Ah yes, the M60A1. That bad boy's one of my favorite tanks in game because it has a rock solid 8.0 lineup, a massive upgrade in armor and firepower compared to the base M60 and is just an all around kick ass vehicle. Plus the M728 is one of my absolute favorite shells in game too, it has great spalling and it normalizes against armor so well that it's better than most early APFSDS rounds. The only thing it lacks is raw penetration power, and for that you have the HEATFS shell. Nuff said
Sorry bro thats some hard cope. The thing is absolute dog water. Its so bad at its br. Should be at 7.7 at the very highest and even then I would be concerned about it artificially dropping win rates, its that bad
@@casematecardinal"dog water" yep, your opinion is instantly invalid. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the guy going out of his way to comment on anyone saying they like the tank to just shit talk them and the tank on a half year old video so I imagine you're the guy coping here 🤔
@@spaghettimeister2453 dude did it on another video about the M60A1 AOS too and came here to check and sure enough he's here. Like this tank made me love 8.0 again because it's just a post war Sherman
@@casematecardinal sound like you just have a skill issue buddy
Thank you so much for the shout out and the tank request! I got so excited to see this in my sub box at work that I took my lunch early to go watch
Just discovered this thing a few weeks ago and i already had some amazing games in it.
Overall i think its kind of a hidden gem in the US tech tree because it gets overlooked quite a lot
The APDS for some reason works insanely good on this tank and is almost every time a one shot. Its much better than the HEAT-FS
love to see this vehicle being represented in the modern war thunder landscape keep it up! I also don't play top tier because I decided after having to use an xbox account after my pc kicking the bucket that enough was enough (after a few years of playing on said xbox account plus the handful of years on pc) to just buy a top tier premium to spite the universe's attempts to keep me from reaching top tier, that premium was the turms and I hate playing it because everyone on my team is also in a turms but is too much of a noob to even know that the bt-5 is amazingly affective at 8.7-11.3 so they never spawn in more than once in the turms, thus I am ultimately left alone with a great k/d but a loss in the battle itself resulting in a feeling of discontent and overall dissatisfaction. but it's great to kill noobs in xm-1's lol. (P.S. you should do a video on the t-72 A that isn't the turms as i'm pretty curious as to how it handles nowadays)
I don't play top tier anymore because I find it super annoying that you always get spawn campt so quickly and I think that's the reason why so many people don't play top br
Little known rule of Warthunder: Rarely is there ever just ONE Maus in your game. Always look for the second one if you see one.
Justin has more golden eagles than my silver lion balance lmao
That 2 Mauses is a food for bombing run..
Top tier gets really frustrating sometimes because if no one decides they are going to just sit in a SPAA the whole game your team will most likely just get wiped out by helicopters.
2 years ago I got this tank. It was my first stabilized tank in WT.
I loved it, its still one of my most played tanks in WT.
Very OP in a downteir, and the armor sometimes feels overpowered from the weird angle in the turret and hull
Its basically just a British tank, nothing special. Its also super bad at 8.0. It got power creeped hard and it shows
"nobody uses hesh" ouf. I have always a few hesh shells with me. will be only used in very special cirumstances but super effective.
Drove the M60A1 AOS for 2 years in the mid 70's, the 3 main gun rounds on the turret floor, nope, that's a mistake. That and the M1919 coax, but the Israelis did use that in .308 as the standard coax was shit.
15:13 really sounding like Ross from Friends lol
This is by far my favorite American line up it just have everything a good light tank a great mbt 2 missile carriers well 3 if you count the squadron vehicle a auto loader a average anti air a good back up medium tank that has apfsds and to top it all of one of if not the best starter heli in the game truly a monster lineup
Hey man the reason I like your channel and actually stick around to watch the videos is due to you sounding so positive and happy, and that makes for a pleasant wiewing experience, and I have also played several matches with you before when I randomly meet you in battles, and you respond when I say hi, and are just generally nice. Also you are not a selfish prick when playing and actully contribute to the teamplay
18:00 damn that aged like fine wine. And In like 3 days too lmao
I watch your videos because you seem to be one of the few content creators who actually seem to enjoy playing the game. Other guys out there sound like they are stressed to produce content and it's like listening to a mate play.
17:58 justin knew it all thw way👀👀👀
I don't play top tier that much because stock grind at top tier (8.0+) is pure pain. When tanks have thermals and range finders and all I have is stock heat I just feel like I'm not being out played im just at a huge disadvantage. This compared to mid to low tiers were the power gap between stock and fully upgraded vehicles is much closer.
I am currently grinding 9.0 USA and the M60A1 is really a big help, tho im really struggling with the M60A3 TTS, not really knowing why. I am watching your videos because im interested in the tanks and in war thunder. I also like your gameplay and your personality, and you are my favorite content creator over all. I've been watching every video in over a year.
(I know its the wrong video commenting on...) Just lazy. I would really like a newer video on the M1128 striker with the m900, to get an idea of what i want to grind after the Chadley. =D Keep up the good work Justin.
The a3 and rise p are just not that great. Their mobility at the BR is such a huge downside. Until you grind out the apfsds also it will really struggle to kill tanks frontally
Okay, for the "why do you guys don't play toptier?" question. I personally don't like playing toptiers because the vehicle is getting boring for a while bcs the grind without a premium is so damn slow, i got many kills but i only got 2k rp like wtf hell nah, that's why i don't play top tier and yeah for Air rb, i'm waithing for the Gen 4, getting boring innit
I hope we get news later on the update
I have British top tier and one of the reasons I'm not a huge fan of top tier is that I often times get shot from someone that I didn't see who in one shot managed to ammo rack me. Even only showing my turret I still end up getting knocked out through the breach. I enjoyed the B1 Ter until the uptier and I still really like British 5.7
I think one of the issues with top tier is that you have new players that buy their way in and only have the 1 vehicle at the BR , so once they die they just leave since they dont have more vehicles.
"if you have top tier and you dont play it why is that" Ka-50
From someone currently researching this, this vid is extremely reassuring. especially going from the t95e1.
the t95e1 is not very good.
I got 4 nations top tier. The main reason I don’t like playing top tier is mostly because of the expenses without having to spend money in premium account. Since my play style is quite aggressive I tend to lose quite a bunch of SL at times.
Don't worry I just found weapon selection too and I love it. I can't stand top tier it is agonizing. The missile spam is a big problem just getting hit from out of nowhere.
I love watching videos because you always have positive energy when playing and this is something I can barely maintain when playing this frustrating game.
one question is better than the t10 m or the t55a?
9:00 In WT It's rare to see a postWW2 vehicle player afraid of WW2 era tank.)))
For me, the hardest things in high tiers are the very quick pace and big disparity between adjacent BRs that make uptiers difficult. So yes, it is partially a skill issue ... Because of this, I have all countries up to 7~8 BR and lost motivation to progress further.
17:59 perfect time for Justin to ask for the a-10 to come
This tank needs smoke grenades and more torch because its it doesn’t like getting up to 5th gear where it actually gets to a decent speed
This is what i've been waiting for
Thanks mate
6:20 one thing i have learned throu out my war thunder days there is no such thing as a lone maus theres always aleast two
I prefer the T-55A because I think its protection and firepower are better than the US M46-M60 types.
This thing is annoying to deal with espically of you are limited to using 122 mm APBC but the upside is that it is easy to dealwith if you use overpressure mechanic ....honestly overpressure works on anything it is broken but still fun.
Something you should notice: M728 rounds use the same ballistic formula as those long rod APFSDS(M829 for example).😶
Its penetration at 60° is more than the half the base penetration
that Type 87 RCV looks like a great player
To answer your question in the video on why people don't play as much top tier as the lowers tiers.
The reasons top tier is not as fun as lower tiers:
1) Most of the maps are to small for top tier tanks. If you die once you can't respawn because you will get spawn camped because the maps are to small.
2) Most of your team will leave after 1 death and won't respawn another ground vehicle. This may be a side effect of the maps being so small, but it could be for others reasons. It could also be because they only have 1 premium tank? Either way most of the players only play 1 death before they leave.
3) You don't get a lot of RP for each match towards researching other top tier vehicles. This is because the games go so fast because the maps are so small and most players only play 1 death before they leave. It takes twice the amount of time to research new vehicles.
These are the major reasons I see why I don't enjoy playing top tier as much as I have fun playing mid to low tier matches. By top tier I'm including everything 9.0 and up, the rank at which most MBT's have thermal vision.
I'd add that its not really fun with all stabilizers, apfsds and thermals. It's basically less responsive call of duty, you can't use armor, can't flank, just click faster on enemy than he clicks on you.
I like AOS and RISE, I actually grind them to ace. Very solid vehicles
BTW, my opinion, M728‘s performance is way more constant than shitty M735
And also I would recommend take 3 or 4 smoke rounds
“I can’t wait for the a-10 to come to the game someday”, 3 days later….
Justin you just make my day 😂 listen to this voice at 4:57😂😂 and GG man love your videos 👏
This thing being the same BR as the Chinese Type 59/69 is a TRAVESTY.
oh shit... guess I'm the first viewer lol, well might as well take the chance to say that I really enjoy your videos! They're ALWAYS a go-to for when I'm in between matches. Keep up the great work man!
speaking of 18:20 new modes, a heavy long range bomber only mode would be really fun in arb. basically you can only bring out a bomber that has no offensive armarment. b17s and pe8s dogfighting, yknow? that would be fun
I just drive in front of Maus players in the m60 and the starship and for the most part they keep shooting your hull, works pretty well
Personally i don't play top tier that much because its easy-mode. Thermals, laser range finder, stabilizers .
What really makes the American 8.0 lineup is the H-34 helicopter with the Bullpup missile.
A War Thunder payload gamemode would be sick.
You gotta transport a convoy past a map, while protecting it from enemies.
I usually kill this m60 with bt5 right in commander sight
Best all rounder tank at 8.0 in terms of speed, armour and ammo
Rangefinder actually comes in handy when getting big maps like Maginot Line. I kid you not I killed 5 tanks in full uptiers in Maginot Line
Damn what warthunder do you play I want that one. The one I play is an absolute slog with the m60aos being so poorly armored, armed and slow as fuck compared to the tanks you fight it make you want to shoot yourself
Honestly, I have no idea why I watch you I think I was looking for a video on the type 90 a while ago. Finally got it this week and am loving the 4s autoloader, makes it easier to re
cover from mistakes.
Biggest reason i dont play top tier is the maps are to small (not all but most), and the games are over way to fast because 90% of players only spawn once. And i feel like the games are also empty because the grind is so long that alot of players just never make it to that stage of the game without giving up.
Also your right about game modes. I think we need something like rush in battlefield, and some kind of a death match mode where you only get one spawn to stop people from only spawning once in the standard rb game modes
I dont play top tier often because its not rewarding. Reasons of that is helicopters, people leave after 1 death, short duration games, spawncamping issue after 1 minute from start, current maps (most of them) do not support modern fast MBTs (really need new game modes and new much bigger maps for top tier). I really get enjoyment from long hard battles where most people fight to the bitter end, doesnt matter if that is win or lose! You rarely (if ever) get those games at top tiers, BR 3.4 - 8.7 is where game is still playable.
I have close to every tank in every nation except for China were I'm stuck at boring 6.3. I rarely ever played top tier until recently for two reasons.
1. I have a mission to spade every vehicle in the game and I got pretty much done with 8.0-8.3 last fall.
2. The grind. The grind when you pick up your top tier tanks and don't have a single module installed is HORRIBLE. That's the main reason I never touched it before recently.
"I can't wait for the a10 to get here" (suspicion)
this tank is amazingly good but what people consider it's biggest flaw the speed i think it's a good thing you never get in sticky situations
hey man I just found your channel and i love it! unique from other youtubers and very entertaining! Been grinding german 6.3 recently so id love to see you go for that!
Can you play the leopard1? The tank is ok but i don't have an idear how to use it.
I don't play top tier because the repair costs are just to high if you don't have premium and I only have prem about 30% of the year
the reason i am here is because he is nice and his voice is like a documentary
the whole linup exept for the 163 is at 8,3 again
Been waiting for this one, been searching for a 8.0 relaxed, easy to play and survivable tank!
T95E1 was super fun but when the repair cost gone up makes it depressing to play
A-10 was announced today!
I recently started playing with my high tier tanks. I lack the skill as of right now to enjoy it fully, and that is why I will drop down a few tiers to my favorite tanks and play them after a bad run at high tier. I also have been trying to play more realistic battles at the higher tiers as well.
I don't play top tier, because not only is it too costly, but also, it's kind of a sensory overload.
ey!!!!!.... i accidentaly open WT live. and seeing your post a minute ago. then here i am, watching your video
Justin its NOT Leopard 1 A1A1.
Its only leopard A1A1.
The first A1 stands for the improved Leopard 1 version and the second stands for the Generation A1. :)
So you could say Leopard 1 A1 OR Leopard A1A1.
The only thing im conflicted with about this tank is that idk whether the m60 or the m47 is sexier
You’re seriously under rating it’s armor. It will bounce apds with ease and even up to the 3bm25.
The reason i didnt play toptier a while was the repaircost (since the update its better now) and the real reason are helis.... i hate thoose since they are in the game toptier is not as fun anymore.
I would really like an enduring conflict type mode for tanks on larger maps (especially for top tier)
I wish you elaborated more when you said british are not well represented. Those kinds of talks are interesting, I dont really know alot about cold war vehicles.
Great vid as always. American tank tree is the next after I finish the germans.
I have top tier (russians only yet) and I do play it but I have a good guess why we get smaller games recently, and that is somewhat in connection to your assumption, "skill issue" thats related to the recent economic changes. They may have reduced the repair cost of some tanks but overall you do get less SL and RP / game so average and less skilled players can still struggle with income, specially without premium time. I started playing WT again a year ago and I do remember getting much better rewards for games. Recently had a 13 kill game with the Leo 1, got to drop a nuke and I "only" got 60k SL and like 7k RP with premium time. A few months ago that would've sure been well above 80-90k SL and 10+K RP. My other guess for the lack of players at top tier is the utter domination of the russians. It's just stupid and I can well imagine players having less motivation to play top tier right now, unless they want to play russia for easy wins.
only in WWII battles can players at all skill level earn their living. The income at WWII tier is so far considerable( with premium account of course)
Thanks Justin.
Getting a lineup for helis, tanks and planes at top tier takes quite a bit of time. Not to mention spading these vehicles. Before you have done this, you just feel at a disadvantage compared to others. These disadvantages multiply at top tier, because of the multitude off mechanics you lack in a stock tank. I have reached to top tier for tanks a couple times for a few nations. I'd rather play with a lower BR lineup untill i have all the tools at my disposal, not only tanks wise. Or even switch nations to play at lower tiers again. the game is just more fun with fully spaded lineups. Currently at top tier you get bored over a certain lineup before you even get close to spading it.
I’d love to play it but 6.7 America is a absolute pain of a grind because of Germany and Russia.
Gaijjin is biased and uses T-34 styled clutch steering for every non-soviet tank.
British, German, and American designs use more advance steering techniques on tanks. Centurions are actually pretty maneuvrable as a result of it.
But Gaijjin basically doesnt want to properly implement the system.
Strange that the Italian M60A1 has smoke grenades... guess they traded for the stabilizer.
Why we don't play top tier? lets see:
- don't have a decent 3 tank + 1 SPAA lineup,
- we go insane and bankrupt till we unlock the 1st APFSDS shell from the stock HEATFS, not to mention thermals and rangefinder
- 1M+ SL / vehicle from rank 6 to buy and crew train
- Bad CAS options on some BRs/nations + heli BR's are became unrealistically high!
- in some cases u stuck with trash for months to unlock the next thing that might not even better!
- dead end tech-tree branches like the M60 line
I don't play top tier because I like using HE, and composite makes HE less viable. Also getting oneshotted from across the entire map isn't very fun for me.
Next video please revisit T-10M! To complete the old school top tier trio
Yeees, a cold war tank! Nice.
Hey Justin, dunno if you remember but I played in a match with you about 1.5 weeks ago and one of my friends was a bit mean to you for the sake of being "funny" and I'd just like to apologize on his behalf. Really like the content and keep up the good work :)
Oh cmon justin bring the "golden horde" camo next time please
Currently spading US 9.3-9.7 vehicles for research the last two top tier vehicles (roland based AA and HSVT) and i still have to spade the whole M60 (AOS), RISE and TTS...
Probably i will save them for any new vehicle add to the tree, since i don't have the XM1.
Let's enjoy some M728 punchs! (Even better at 7.7 with the M60A1 D.C. Ariete, i grinded half of Italy vehicles with it🖤🇮🇹)
Will you ever do lower battle rating and rank vehicles? Like maybe some ranks 5s.
Hi Justin, I grinded USA Top Tier without premium or spending any money, and I ain’t playing it because I always get clapped by Russia and the repair costs a scuffed
This is easily my worst performing tank. Can't figure it out to save my life.
I don't really play top tier anymore due to heli / CAS spam. Why bother with a 2nd spawn when you're immediately hit by air ordinance?.