Of course it is, have you ever used one? I have and the 730 would be a good pair with an old singlecore cpu, anything higher would get bottlenecked by the 730.
Fellas, this video was not intended as a Diss at anyone, it was purely because noone has tested CPU Side performance, aswell as APU Performance, of the chip, along with features and how it actually is to use. I was using it for well over a week, and felt that this was one of the more complete testing suite videos out today. Cheers.
Nice video, man!! I guess it performs on par with the R7 250 1GB DDR5 I have laying around somewhere... While you still have it, and since the CPU portion isn't overclockable... is the Vega 3 overclockable ??? Can you use RAM speeds beyond 2666MHz as an OCed state ?
I dont have an Athlon by myself, and im german so sorry if my english isnt the best. Randon Gaming in HD made a video aswell, and he said that the Vega 3 is also locked and cant be overclocked if i remember right
I've had this cpu since release. I paired it with my 4gb XFX R7 240 in 2018 and named it "Athlonicon". Its a lovely 60w of cpu and gpu. 0 issues ever with this cpu. I still have that build and won't get rid of it. There have been days or weeks where I was without a high performance PC and I reverted to the old trusty Athlonicon. It can still chug through things a dual core has no business running. So happy you did a video on it. Its way underappreciated.
I've seen plenty of videos comparing the 200ge with the pentium g4560, and g5400 with a real gpu. The most common pairings I see at 1060 6bgs or going all out with a 1080ti. Both of which might be too much gpu than the cpu ever needs. Well the 1060 6gb might be the absolute max I would go, unless I'm really expecting to replace the 200ge with at least a ryzen 5 2xxx later on.
Yes and no. I know during my childhood, my dad built me the cheapest pc he could put together because he had to build a pc for both myself and my sister. He ended up spending 100$ for cpu,mobo, psu, case, and 256mb ddr 333 ram altogether. I had to fend for myself for everything else. I already had a 80gb hdd from my pc prior to that, and had to buy an extra 512mb of ram to make the pc even usable for the time. For the gpu I ended up buying a radeon 9550, which was a pretty good lower-mid range gpu for the time for about 130$. I sure as hell would not have spent on a 100$ on a gpu back then, and I most certainly would not spend only 100$ on a gpu today. There is always the used route for something even better, however a lot of people would not even trust buying something used. Many wouldn't want to risk buying a bad part, or do not want to factor in what other steps they would need to take when purchasing an older card. Such as if they would need to purchase a beefier psu to power the card, etc. For example both a Radeon 7970 or a gtx 680 are still quite competent cards to the level of a gtx 1050ti, but yield much higher tdps, requiring a nice psu of 600w or better with decent power efficiency. Not only that these cards are to the age where problems can occur from aging components.
Actually a well overclocked 2500K with 8 gb of DDR3 @ 1600MHZ and a solid midrange cpu (GTX 1060 or RX 570) can still keep up for 1080p gaming with no issue . If I were you I wouldn't even consider changing socket for now .. You have one hell of a cpu sir!
Had this CPU running as my 1st foray of AM4 PC. It runs great, supported 3200MHz ramkit, and is just okay for most of my work back then. Have since sold it for very low (20 bucks or so) and upgraded to 5600G, but all the rest of the parts were made with this little boy in mind. It is beautiful, and I'd rather take this than any miniPC with Celery or stuff.
It seems like an ok cpu for an office build but here in canada you could buy a ryzen 3 2200g for about 50 extra dollars or so and it outperforms the 200GE so well. You did make a very good point about the ram prices, I really wish they would drop so I could build newer pcs more often.
For the price you cant really argue as it gets you into a modern platform with potential to go all the way up to an 8 core CPU. Keep it up Hamish! Please colab. I need colab.
@@nathanmead140 I would not recommend nothing but Zen Cores for an AM4 platform. But definitly you can find old cores for the AM4, I think it's the 950 Athlon.
In my country Indonesia, second hand Intel parts still expensive. second hand i5 2400 actually cost more than NEW AMD Athlon 200GE ( i5 2400 is Rp 900.000-+ and Athlon 200 is Rp 880.000), H61/H77 Motherboard cost around the same as A320 Motherboard ( H61 Asus costs Rp. 650.000 and Asrock A320 is Rp 720.000). so, in the end, building a second hand i5 Sandy Bridge PC will cost around the same as a New system with Athlon 200GE. Even with high DDR4 prices at least in my country Buying New AMD system still has a better value than second hand Ivy or Sandy bridge system ( and yes, In according to some source I heard AMD stuff in Indonesia is cheapest in Asia, so kinda ... make sense? )
I see why this is called a **real review** This video has had a tonne more effort put into it than RGinHDs, which seems rushed and was stretched to 10 mins for information you managed to fit into 3 minutes of this video. You're like a Budget Gamers Nexus. Top job
I think RGinHDs video was pretty typical of his style to be honest. It didn't seem rushed to me. It was pretty much on par with how he does his videos. He's not massively technical.
Wow you were right this is an actual review you reviewed the raw CPU performance it has rather than just it's igpu like every other video about this apu great job keep up the good work
Awesome video. I just wanted to let you know (in case you weren't aware of it) that certain MSI and Gigabyte B350 motherboards BIOS/UEFI updates unlock the 200GE and you can overclock the CPU to about 3.9 Ghz. The GPU is still locked, but a nice overclock on it would get you a few extra fps and snappiness in general use as well. Keep up the great work.
If only the RAM prices were better then this Athlon 200GE would've been a better deal for budget gamers or for general computing, like you said sandy bridge (and Ivy bridge) is very affordable and offers great performance for said price, I'm on the 2500k and it does everything I want it to do so I'm quite satisfied.
@@AlecShernAPS here so cost 8GB DDR4 3000MHz at least ~$88 and that's the best price, they normally cost $120, though I have to admit that RAM is looking cheaper than it did months ago.
I would really like to see a throw down between the last generation Brisrol Ridge A series Apu, with the R7 graphics VS the new Zen based athlon Apu with Vega 3....
I see people commenting on Intel not changing their integrated graphics since Skylake. To those people, that is why I make the joke. Amd actually works on it's integrated graphics on it's apus. Intel could easily, but chooses not to.
Ideal for a NAS or an HTPC where the 35W is very appealing.....except the crazy RAM prices. Good work giving alternative recommendations for those looking for a low cost gaming system.
Good review! Not really sure what this CPU is intended for besides multimedia use. Perhaps as a Home Theatre PC or maybe an Esports machine. But it can only seem to run games like CSGO and Overwatch not even BF1 or more demanding multiplayer games. I wonder if AMD will ever release a 6 core APU. That would be super cool and is probably the main thing holding an APU back. Well besides ram prices.
I have the mobile version of this chip, the Ryzen 3 2200u. I have to say that the processor is excellent for general computer tasks and light gaming. If you want to play at higher framerates, see LowSpecGamer's videos on your favorite titles, that's what I did for Fallout 4 and it ran buttery smooth after tweaking.
Man this cpu really punchs the celeron in terms of igpu. It seems like the perfect medium between everyday performance and casual gamer. Could be great for a small affordable ITX build.
Agreed with the ram situation regarding the athlon 200ge. It's an argument I have left on other 200ge videos, that I feel ram needs to drop at least another 15$ usd. just recently the lowest DDR4 prices I have seen has dropped to 61$ usd, however these are for a single 8gb stick, which will hurt performance-wise because you will not be using dual channel mode. 2x4gb kits are around 65$ usd not. If prices were to drop to around 48$usd, or maybe 50$usd then it would be a much more viable option than it is now. My ideal planned build for the 200ge is a birthday pc for my mother. For what she does she can still get by with only 4gb of ram. Yes I know, even for casual use 8gb is becoming the new norm, but really my mothers ancient athlon II x3 450 3.2ghz with 4gb ddr2 1066mhz, still gets by just fine with only 4gb of ram. The main reason why she wants something new is just because her aging am2+ motherboard is beginning to give her blue screens, even after I reformatted the pc, checked her paste, adding extra cooling (which helped blue screens happen less often), but its about time for her to get something better. Normally I would buy her a new board, but she is using an AM3 cpu, on an AM2+ board. So if i were to buy her a new board I'd likely have to buy her DDR3 ram, because AM2+ boards are becoming expensive due to their high compatibility across so many cpu generations (AM2,AM2+,AM3). Because I do not have to buy her a pc case, peripherals, nor even operating system and because I only need 4gb of ram I can get by building her a new 200GE system for only 150$ USD.
Built my 200ge unit for about $280. 2 x 4gb ddr4 2667 mhz ram. 120 gb ssd. 450w psu. Msi a320 uatx motherboard and a case. I play mostly older rts games but I'm very impressed by this system
Hey man, Ive been seeing/watching your videos for probably the last month or so and on the fence for subscribing. But finally decided to sub for a multitude of reasons. Keep up the good work!
Hey, could you please test American McGee's Alice if you happen to benchmark a very old system or GPU? I think it would make sense because though it is based on ioquake3, it is like the most graphically heavy/advanced of that engine. Thanks.
I'd like to use this as a low cost low power home media server. The CPU is a good price but once you add the motherboard and especially RAM it gets pretty expensive.
Got parts for a Ivy Bridge i5 (It was even the fastest non-K one, the 3570) with 730W Modular PSU, 16GB RAM for under 20€ and paired that with a 1050Ti I got from a co-worker for 75€ and a 40€ SSD.
To be honest i do think that i will be using this Apu for some family members of mine since they do need a pc but do want one. This may be part of a low or extreme power build that i might do for them. And plan to make it mini atx build too.
You know, instead of locking this APU and preventing overclocking (in order to secure some kind of shitty marketing ploy with slightly higher clocked versions of this every quarter, I presume), AMD should have left this unlocked. This APU would be leaving sub $100 intels in the dust if only it were unlocked..
Just made a system pairing it with a 1050ti and 16 gigs of now finally actually cheap ram, it's a really nice entry level setup. Now 570s are dirt cheap that would be a good option too. The upcoming 1650 might be the perfect fit though, perhaps I'll build another system.
make sure the mainboard you're getting is flashed with the latest firmware to support this chip, as it is brand new. also, are you planning on upgrading to a bigger AM4 chip. if so, i wouldn't skimp on ram too much, big ryzen loves some good memory and it pays off to spend a couple of tenners more on the ram, especially since they cap out at 4.2 ghz clock speed, ram can allow for levels of scaling you otherwise can't obtain on ryzen. or you could take the gamble for ddr4 to ever become cheap and get another kit later (i wouldn't reallly) if you're planning on staying with this cpu, disregard everything except the fist line
black friday you say? keep an eye out for ryzen 2200g deals, if it has a nice discount, you may want to consider taking that one, it's a stronger cpu and gpu, and allows for overclocking regular price is like 100-110, but you never know on black friday if you need the power for gaming that is... i don't know your use cases :)
Thanks for the review. I would like a low budget laptop with good screen for editing photos and light and casual gaming. But manufacturers doesn't care about this lel
Pretty impressive for the price but a 2200G still seems like the best budget option for a new budget PC build. The APU is double the price but wouldn't be much more expensive when taking the full build's price into consideration. You could build a $350 (USD) with the 200GE or spend 15% more and get much better performance for a $400 build (2200G); 4 real CPU cores, more GPU power, overclocking, better RAM speed support and much higher performance.
Terraria Heaven The 2200G _can_ play many AAA at 720p/60fps on low. That's why I think it's a better deal. What in the world are talking about Pentiums and Celerons for?
A great little budget CPU for HTPC and Office usage, and is suprisingly powerful for $55. It deserves the name "Pentium Killer". I wonder if you can't BLCK OC it?
I thought that Quake II ray tracing benchmark was just suffering from gif compression when you showed it to me, I didn't think it really looked that bad 0_o Reflections are beautiful though
Even the GTX 1080 Ti gets brought down by the path tracing heaviness. I wonder if they will find a way to get it DXR enabled. Then we could play Quake II VR with ray tracing!
Yea I’m not a fan of this APU. Was excited at first, but with zero OC ability. It just doesn’t cut the cheese. With a 2200G only $99 , hold off on a SSD or a bling bling case and spend the $44 difference on a better APU.
@@jm036 I think it's just a matter of what you want to have to upgrade first, you can choose from either shit performance or decent load times/windows experience
For anyone saying this is pointless vs getting a ryzen, yes and no. If your building a new system and already spending 40 on a case 30 on psu 80 on ram however much for windows etc you could say there is no point to skimp on this vs a ryzen. But when new low pre-builts come out or for low end laptops this would allow you to pickup one of the cheapest computers in your local store and still game on it at 720p or 1080p for esports / older titles just fine. Having a low cost power efficient laptop or office pc that can also game or edit just well enough and can pick up at a moments notice actually sounds like a pretty decent prospect if your broke or if an old machine breaks down.
Similar performance to the pentium golds, with better integrated graphics. Not bad. Pair it with a cheap GPU like a 750 ti and you got a super budget gaming rig for peanuts.
Doesn't only a couple of motherboards support OCing this CPU? Most won't give you the option, and others lets you overclock but the values return to normal once you enter windows.
The bummer is the ram for me..i3 2100+r7 250 might be same perf as this..but the i5 2400+r9 280/380 will kill this in the same price segment all for not that 500w
Thanks for the video. What do you think i should do? Should i upgrade my am3 motherboard with a phenom ii x6 or x4, upgrade the 1333mhz ddr3 ram from 4 to 8, and replace my gt 430 to a gtx 750ti or should i go with this new cpu, 8ram, new motherboard ?
Holy cow. The gta5 results are better than the gddr5 GT 730, and that's $40-60 alone
@British Dylan He only did that after the iGPU test
Of course it is, have you ever used one? I have and the 730 would be a good pair with an old singlecore cpu, anything higher would get bottlenecked by the 730.
@@tilburg8683 so true I'm broke trying to get a new PC and leave it in a legacy system
Vega graphics are great. Not a replacement for a dedicated gpu but in a pinch it works
I5 2400=20$
Hd 7870/gtx 660/gtx 750 ti =40$
1:44 opening an amd cpu with an intel one
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that's a weird way to spell shintel
@@mazu_005 TRIGGERED
such meaningful visual message right there lmao
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Fellas, this video was not intended as a Diss at anyone, it was purely because noone has tested CPU Side performance, aswell as APU Performance, of the chip, along with features and how it actually is to use. I was using it for well over a week, and felt that this was one of the more complete testing suite videos out today. Cheers.
Nice video, man!! I guess it performs on par with the R7 250 1GB DDR5 I have laying around somewhere... While you still have it, and since the CPU portion isn't overclockable... is the Vega 3 overclockable ??? Can you use RAM speeds beyond 2666MHz as an OCed state ?
I dont have an Athlon by myself, and im german so sorry if my english isnt the best. Randon Gaming in HD made a video aswell, and he said that the Vega 3 is also locked and cant be overclocked if i remember right
@@vitaobatera: Around a HD7730 so virtually R7 250 performance in most titles. Sometimes worse though.
Gaming? Booooorriinggggggg
Fellas...
I've had this cpu since release. I paired it with my 4gb XFX R7 240 in 2018 and named it "Athlonicon". Its a lovely 60w of cpu and gpu. 0 issues ever with this cpu.
I still have that build and won't get rid of it.
There have been days or weeks where I was without a high performance PC and I reverted to the old trusty Athlonicon. It can still chug through things a dual core has no business running.
So happy you did a video on it. Its way underappreciated.
Great review, very detailed. Agreed on DDR4 prices, it makes used parts very appealing.
Oh hey Phil, fancy seeing you around these parts. Small internet.
@@mbe102 hey
Phil, can you make a retrospective video about Low-End 1156/1155?
Very detailed, yet I never heard mention how how many correct the CPU has, probably one of the more important parts of a damn CPU
oh sweet.
I was the first to like Phil's comment and I never replied lmao
1:43 did you just open that box with another processor?
why not lol, the cpu drop triggers me instead @ 1:50
He probably used his pentium 4
He did that in another video too lul
Most likely an i3 7350k. Best box opener money can buy!
@@nicka9181 Not many people will get that.
OH GOD, FINALLY SOMEONE WHO TESTS IT WITH A GPU
I've seen plenty of videos comparing the 200ge with the pentium g4560, and g5400 with a real gpu. The most common pairings I see at 1060 6bgs or going all out with a 1080ti. Both of which might be too much gpu than the cpu ever needs. Well the 1060 6gb might be the absolute max I would go, unless I'm really expecting to replace the 200ge with at least a ryzen 5 2xxx later on.
@Jonathan Soko nah, I think the 1050ti would be a better balance.
Yes and no. I know during my childhood, my dad built me the cheapest pc he could put together because he had to build a pc for both myself and my sister. He ended up spending 100$ for cpu,mobo, psu, case, and 256mb ddr 333 ram altogether. I had to fend for myself for everything else. I already had a 80gb hdd from my pc prior to that, and had to buy an extra 512mb of ram to make the pc even usable for the time. For the gpu I ended up buying a radeon 9550, which was a pretty good lower-mid range gpu for the time for about 130$. I sure as hell would not have spent on a 100$ on a gpu back then, and I most certainly would not spend only 100$ on a gpu today.
There is always the used route for something even better, however a lot of people would not even trust buying something used. Many wouldn't want to risk buying a bad part, or do not want to factor in what other steps they would need to take when purchasing an older card. Such as if they would need to purchase a beefier psu to power the card, etc.
For example both a Radeon 7970 or a gtx 680 are still quite competent cards to the level of a gtx 1050ti, but yield much higher tdps, requiring a nice psu of 600w or better with decent power efficiency. Not only that these cards are to the age where problems can occur from aging components.
@@pauls4522 I am actually running testing right now with a rx560, which felt real world to me for someone on a 200ge budget.
@@JasonGroom that seems legitimately realistic. dont watch much LTT do you?
Its insane how far integrated graphics are coming along
Ram pricing is the sole reason why I haven't upgraded from my 2500K build, yet...
Matthew Perry If you're in the US it may be better to stomach the prices before the final bit of the tariff hits on January 1St of next year
In the UK, but the prices here might be going up, too.
There are 16GB 3200mhz kits for $140 USD available now. Those are NORMAL prices. Buy now while the prices last...
I doubt Prices in the UK will be changing anytime soon, we have decent consumer laws, the main issue is price fixing by the 3 main manufacturers.
Actually a well overclocked 2500K with 8 gb of DDR3 @ 1600MHZ and a solid midrange cpu (GTX 1060 or RX 570) can still keep up for 1080p gaming with no issue . If I were you I wouldn't even consider changing socket for now .. You have one hell of a cpu sir!
i think is the first normal 200GE review i have seen.
I think Randomgaminginhd did one 2 days ago too.
@@ChrisDobson yep
Low spec gamer loves this CPU
Other reviews had insame performance with not deticated GPU
Had this CPU running as my 1st foray of AM4 PC. It runs great, supported 3200MHz ramkit, and is just okay for most of my work back then. Have since sold it for very low (20 bucks or so) and upgraded to 5600G, but all the rest of the parts were made with this little boy in mind. It is beautiful, and I'd rather take this than any miniPC with Celery or stuff.
It seems like an ok cpu for an office build but here in canada you could buy a ryzen 3 2200g for about 50 extra dollars or so and it outperforms the 200GE so well. You did make a very good point about the ram prices, I really wish they would drop so I could build newer pcs more often.
For the price you cant really argue as it gets you into a modern platform with potential to go all the way up to an 8 core CPU. Keep it up Hamish!
Please colab. I need colab.
HoppsTech wait his name is hamish!! How did I not know this
@@lostparadisegaming2858 nah it's not hamish
Yess AM4 platform us compatible with all AmD cpus right now. This CPU is cheap and you still have a lot of potential to upgrade.
@@TheAbrahamsoto01 but can a old AMD athlon or phenom CPU work in a am4 socket?
@@nathanmead140 I would not recommend nothing but Zen Cores for an AM4 platform. But definitly you can find old cores for the AM4, I think it's the 950 Athlon.
Great Video my dude ^~^ Miss talking with the community in the Discord, but life has been keeping me super busy. 💞💞
In my country Indonesia, second hand Intel parts still expensive. second hand i5 2400 actually cost more than NEW AMD Athlon 200GE ( i5 2400 is Rp 900.000-+ and Athlon 200 is Rp 880.000), H61/H77 Motherboard cost around the same as A320 Motherboard ( H61 Asus costs Rp. 650.000 and Asrock A320 is Rp 720.000). so, in the end, building a second hand i5 Sandy Bridge PC will cost around the same as a New system with Athlon 200GE. Even with high DDR4 prices at least in my country Buying New AMD system still has a better value than second hand Ivy or Sandy bridge system ( and yes, In according to some source I heard AMD stuff in Indonesia is cheapest in Asia, so kinda ... make sense? )
dont forget low power consumption
indeed old i5 is like 95W TDP
Jangan lupa kalo socket am4 bisa diupgrade ke ryzen
Yak bijak banget, AM4 bisa upgrade sampe Pinnacle
You can get an old i3 2120 (4GB DDR3)for Rp.1,2jt and save for an i5 3570+RX570+4GB RAM for around 3jt
Finally an actual review that includes more than just benchmarks
Hey why do you have a fire extinguisher in the background? I dont see any 480 ti's in sight :/
Protective measures are a MUST for every GPU. Otherwise, the house would have burnt down
@@hastangz or just for amd gpus
@@hastangz cuz they suck
@@RuleAxeMan no u
@@RuleAxeMan Idiots like you still exist?
I see why this is called a **real review**
This video has had a tonne more effort put into it than RGinHDs, which seems rushed and was stretched to 10 mins for information you managed to fit into 3 minutes of this video. You're like a Budget Gamers Nexus. Top job
Llllll
That wasnt the point of the name, but glad you enjoyed the video non the less. It did take a lot of effort to put together
I think RGinHDs video was pretty typical of his style to be honest. It didn't seem rushed to me. It was pretty much on par with how he does his videos. He's not massively technical.
RGinHD did state in his vid right at the beginning, it wasn't a full review just an Initial impression.
you must have just recently watch RGinHDs vids. He's been making half assed reviews under 5mins since day 1
1:44 this clip made me sub...……….
Great choice in OSTs you're using in the videos.
I like your videos, thank you for the great content
Wow you were right this is an actual review you reviewed the raw CPU performance it has rather than just it's igpu like every other video about this apu great job keep up the good work
Nice little CPU for the price TBH
Great video as always
Not a CPU - a disgusting APU :(
@@zig131 Actually, it is a CPU. It's a CPU with space that would usually go towards more cores etc used for a more powerful iGPU
great review, thanks for doing a nice thorough and proper review of this little APU.
Great video BB! I love the way you say "new PC" toward the end with such distaste! Cheers!
So cheap and an entry level to AM4 but RAM kills its cheapness, back to the Budget options yet again. Nice video my man.
This is a great review, dude! You are one of my favorite channels for budget hardware reviews!
Awesome video. I just wanted to let you know (in case you weren't aware of it) that certain MSI and Gigabyte B350 motherboards BIOS/UEFI updates unlock the 200GE and you can overclock the CPU to about 3.9 Ghz. The GPU is still locked, but a nice overclock on it would get you a few extra fps and snappiness in general use as well. Keep up the great work.
Path tracing with Quake?! That's cool! Can you do a video on that, please?
Love the fire extinguisher. For those EXTREME overclocks. :D
This 3 Vega gpu perfforms just like my gtx 550ti
This is as close as it gets
Pretty decent performance for budget builds. But what kills the 'budget' side of things is the RAM prices like you said. Great review.
If only the RAM prices were better then this Athlon 200GE would've been a better deal for budget gamers or for general computing, like you said sandy bridge (and Ivy bridge) is very affordable and offers great performance for said price, I'm on the 2500k and it does everything I want it to do so I'm quite satisfied.
At least those prices are coming down. I saw 8GB 3000mhz for around ~$55 yesterday.
@@AlecShernAPS here so cost 8GB DDR4 3000MHz at least ~$88 and that's the best price, they normally cost $120, though I have to admit that RAM is looking cheaper than it did months ago.
Should I get 2x4gb 2133/2400mhz or 1x8gb 2666mhz?
Plus 2500k OC! Though this cpu is fine because you have an upgrade path to a ryzen cpu
@@ayuchanayuko that's the best thing about AMD's AM4 socket
I would really like to see a throw down between the last generation Brisrol Ridge A series Apu, with the R7 graphics VS the new Zen based athlon Apu with Vega 3....
Still better than Intel hd graphics...
I mean....that's not even am insult to Intel anymore, everyone knows they don't bother with integrates graphics
Intel hasn't bothered improving on its iGPUs since 2015's Skylake.
I'd argue that Iris plus is still better than this though.
Intel hasn't changed their architecture since Skylake in all honesty.
I see people commenting on Intel not changing their integrated graphics since Skylake. To those people, that is why I make the joke. Amd actually works on it's integrated graphics on it's apus. Intel could easily, but chooses not to.
A cpu with a gpu running triple a game is a marvel, I'm so happy that they kept performance in mind while making this little chip.
ah a lovely new video of a CPU I'm interested from. Gotta love it, keep it up!
Another Great video, Using a CPU to open a box 👍
This is fucking insane. You can build a PC to play games on for around $300. 50fps in GTAV with the APU? Ridiculous.
Ideal for a NAS or an HTPC where the 35W is very appealing.....except the crazy RAM prices. Good work giving alternative recommendations for those looking for a low cost gaming system.
Raven Ridge APUs aren't using Zen+, they use Zen 1.
Their marketing team needs to be fired.
Nice video, great budget CPU, i like the Graphs
Good review! Not really sure what this CPU is intended for besides multimedia use. Perhaps as a Home Theatre PC or maybe an Esports machine. But it can only seem to run games like CSGO and Overwatch not even BF1 or more demanding multiplayer games. I wonder if AMD will ever release a 6 core APU. That would be super cool and is probably the main thing holding an APU back. Well besides ram prices.
I have the mobile version of this chip, the Ryzen 3 2200u. I have to say that the processor is excellent for general computer tasks and light gaming. If you want to play at higher framerates, see LowSpecGamer's videos on your favorite titles, that's what I did for Fallout 4 and it ran buttery smooth after tweaking.
Its surprisingly good. Better than I expected the benchmarks to be
Awesome how far they've come from the AM1-FM1 days.
Man this cpu really punchs the celeron in terms of igpu. It seems like the perfect medium between everyday performance and casual gamer. Could be great for a small affordable ITX build.
Agreed with the ram situation regarding the athlon 200ge. It's an argument I have left on other 200ge videos, that I feel ram needs to drop at least another 15$ usd. just recently the lowest DDR4 prices I have seen has dropped to 61$ usd, however these are for a single 8gb stick, which will hurt performance-wise because you will not be using dual channel mode. 2x4gb kits are around 65$ usd not. If prices were to drop to around 48$usd, or maybe 50$usd then it would be a much more viable option than it is now.
My ideal planned build for the 200ge is a birthday pc for my mother. For what she does she can still get by with only 4gb of ram. Yes I know, even for casual use 8gb is becoming the new norm, but really my mothers ancient athlon II x3 450 3.2ghz with 4gb ddr2 1066mhz, still gets by just fine with only 4gb of ram. The main reason why she wants something new is just because her aging am2+ motherboard is beginning to give her blue screens, even after I reformatted the pc, checked her paste, adding extra cooling (which helped blue screens happen less often), but its about time for her to get something better. Normally I would buy her a new board, but she is using an AM3 cpu, on an AM2+ board. So if i were to buy her a new board I'd likely have to buy her DDR3 ram, because AM2+ boards are becoming expensive due to their high compatibility across so many cpu generations (AM2,AM2+,AM3).
Because I do not have to buy her a pc case, peripherals, nor even operating system and because I only need 4gb of ram I can get by building her a new 200GE system for only 150$ USD.
Great video my dude!
I’m late, but I really enjoyed the video. Great job 👍
16:20 i spot SimCity music
Love that you used simcity music!
Excellent presentation again mate, nice one.
Built my 200ge unit for about $280. 2 x 4gb ddr4 2667 mhz ram. 120 gb ssd. 450w psu. Msi a320 uatx motherboard and a case. I play mostly older rts games but I'm very impressed by this system
That was a great video! well edited!
Good job, very informative.
Hey man, Ive been seeing/watching your videos for probably the last month or so and on the fence for subscribing. But finally decided to sub for a multitude of reasons. Keep up the good work!
Cheers man much appreciate.
I still love what this APU achieves for the TDP.
Hey, could you please test American McGee's Alice if you happen to benchmark a very old system or GPU? I think it would make sense because though it is based on ioquake3, it is like the most graphically heavy/advanced of that engine. Thanks.
American McGee's Alice is based on id tech 3, the same engine as Call of Duty classic. ioquake3 is a direct descendant but is still a distinct engine.
Back then I just about to buy a cheap laptop with UHD 610 graphics, then I found about 2200G. Massive difference in performance.
I'd like to use this as a low cost low power home media server. The CPU is a good price but once you add the motherboard and especially RAM it gets pretty expensive.
Got parts for a Ivy Bridge i5 (It was even the fastest non-K one, the 3570) with 730W Modular PSU, 16GB RAM for under 20€ and paired that with a 1050Ti I got from a co-worker for 75€ and a 40€ SSD.
To be honest i do think that i will be using this Apu for some family members of mine since they do need a pc but do want one. This may be part of a low or extreme power build that i might do for them. And plan to make it mini atx build too.
"Meanwhile, am4 having support until 2020"... about that... am4 cpus still being released as of a month or two ago lol
Is it possible to change the amd athlon 220ge with ryzen 5 5600x? And what will the performance be better if the motherboard will not be changed?
I mean if your motherboard supports that CPU it should work, the uplift to CPU side performance would be immense.
You know, instead of locking this APU and preventing overclocking (in order to secure some kind of shitty marketing ploy with slightly higher clocked versions of this every quarter, I presume), AMD should have left this unlocked. This APU would be leaving sub $100 intels in the dust if only it were unlocked..
I love your fire extinguisher.
What monitor do you use? Nice video BTW
you must enable the igpu to use 2 gb ram from the bios because the default is 1 gb
and you limit the performance
sorry if you did it :) nice video
Just made a system pairing it with a 1050ti and 16 gigs of now finally actually cheap ram, it's a really nice entry level setup. Now 570s are dirt cheap that would be a good option too. The upcoming 1650 might be the perfect fit though, perhaps I'll build another system.
to bad 470 kicked ass 1650
I'm planning on buying one, Is there anything I should keep in mind while upgrading?
make sure the mainboard you're getting is flashed with the latest firmware to support this chip, as it is brand new.
also, are you planning on upgrading to a bigger AM4 chip.
if so, i wouldn't skimp on ram too much, big ryzen loves some good memory and it pays off to spend a couple of tenners more on the ram, especially since they cap out at 4.2 ghz clock speed, ram can allow for levels of scaling you otherwise can't obtain on ryzen.
or you could take the gamble for ddr4 to ever become cheap and get another kit later (i wouldn't reallly)
if you're planning on staying with this cpu, disregard everything except the fist line
You'll need DDR4 RAM which is still costly :/
@@klontjespap I'm planning to upgrade to a ryzen 5 around black Friday, and ill be sure to get ram that will work with my system. Thank you
black friday you say?
keep an eye out for ryzen 2200g deals, if it has a nice discount, you may want to consider taking that one, it's a stronger cpu and gpu, and allows for overclocking
regular price is like 100-110, but you never know on black friday
if you need the power for gaming that is... i don't know your use cases :)
@@klontjespap He said Ryzen 5...
That cpu box cutter
Thanks for the review. I would like a low budget laptop with good screen for editing photos and light and casual gaming. But manufacturers doesn't care about this lel
Pretty impressive for the price but a 2200G still seems like the best budget option for a new budget PC build. The APU is double the price but wouldn't be much more expensive when taking the full build's price into consideration. You could build a $350 (USD) with the 200GE or spend 15% more and get much better performance for a $400 build (2200G); 4 real CPU cores, more GPU power, overclocking, better RAM speed support and much higher performance.
MunkeyChips This is more likely for schools or offices where and it is perfect for general web browsing, word, excel etc.
Dávid Végső Yeah, the CPU seems like it was made for the office PC market. AMD can sell boat-loads of these to Dell, HP, etc, for cheap.
Terraria Heaven The 2200G _can_ play many AAA at 720p/60fps on low. That's why I think it's a better deal. What in the world are talking about Pentiums and Celerons for?
If this is somewhat good with the integrated graphics then this thing would be a budget beast with a GT 1030.
RX460 would be a better buy
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial I can only find those on Ebay and shipping is really expensive where I live.
The GT1030 is a bit weak to pair with it personally. Not much gain over the iGPU
A great little budget CPU for HTPC and Office usage, and is suprisingly powerful for $55. It deserves the name "Pentium Killer". I wonder if you can't BLCK OC it?
He also tested it with an extranal graphics card. Pentium easily kills amd athlon with extranal graphics card cuz it has way faster cores
Potatoes and Trucks that’s the whole point of this apu it’s for those who don’t have a bigger budget for a dedicated gpu
I thought that Quake II ray tracing benchmark was just suffering from gif compression when you showed it to me, I didn't think it really looked that bad 0_o
Reflections are beautiful though
It's very difficult to run, admittedly TH-cam Compression does make it worse, and higher resolutions can fix this somewhat.
Even the GTX 1080 Ti gets brought down by the path tracing heaviness. I wonder if they will find a way to get it DXR enabled. Then we could play Quake II VR with ray tracing!
lmao Q2 came out in 2018???
Well, the Quake 2 Path Tracing mod came out in 2017. amietia.com/q2pt.html
I'm refering to the date of the compile on the benchmark.
Yea I’m not a fan of this APU. Was excited at first, but with zero OC ability. It just doesn’t cut the cheese. With a 2200G only $99 , hold off on a SSD or a bling bling case and spend the $44 difference on a better APU.
Win10 runs like total crap on a HDD. Borderline unusable.
@@jm036 I think it's just a matter of what you want to have to upgrade first, you can choose from either shit performance or decent load times/windows experience
"decent"
nope
so an ssd wont give you decent load times? Then what does?
He said windows on an HDD is unusable, then you called it decent. So I said it wasn't. Lol.
Can you do a video on an old Thinkpad? Also some budget workstation/server based builds would be cool to see.
It's interesting watching this 3 years later and hear him going on and on about ddr4 prices. It's DIRT CHEAP now.
Would like to see a 2022 revisit
Lovin that GT 2002 music.
Wow, after randomgaminginhd just released this type of video. Very good man😂👌
I would love to see what gpus new and used will go good with the 2000GE
I do touch on this at the end of the video. A HD7870/RX460 would be as far as I go
Yea the RX560 is perfect for the cpu
For anyone saying this is pointless vs getting a ryzen, yes and no. If your building a new system and already spending 40 on a case 30 on psu 80 on ram however much for windows etc you could say there is no point to skimp on this vs a ryzen. But when new low pre-builts come out or for low end laptops this would allow you to pickup one of the cheapest computers in your local store and still game on it at 720p or 1080p for esports / older titles just fine. Having a low cost power efficient laptop or office pc that can also game or edit just well enough and can pick up at a moments notice actually sounds like a pretty decent prospect if your broke or if an old machine breaks down.
I hear Sega GT 2002 music I hit like. Oh the nostalgia hit me hard.
Nice vid mate!
Cheers
Similar performance to the pentium golds, with better integrated graphics. Not bad. Pair it with a cheap GPU like a 750 ti and you got a super budget gaming rig for peanuts.
Who here in 2021 when they are nearly £100
This would be a good cpu for lap-tops.What do you guys think?
I have a really old athlon that came in an old MSI computer I'm not sure what type of processor it is, but it says 1999 on the back of it
If the processor is from 1999, then it'd probably be an Athlon K7 or K75.
Naw, most likely a K6 as the ones from 1999 are slot cpus
Turn the pc on and run dxdiag if the pc still works
I have a k6 computer I think
With that cpu you can basically build a pc with 200/250 euro. For office & multimedia it's perfect and sometimes you can play games decently on it.
Is the ram single channel? Planning to buy this in an ultra budget build and I am curious about the performance in single channel 4gb ram.
Doesn't only a couple of motherboards support OCing this CPU? Most won't give you the option, and others lets you overclock but the values return to normal once you enter windows.
Good video. I bought R7 1700 for 200$ and 1 stick of 8 GB of ram, yes, 1 stick, lol. I will add 3 more to 32 GB later when ram goes down.
Your reviews are the best
Cheers
that simcity music givin me nostalgia
The bummer is the ram for me..i3 2100+r7 250 might be same perf as this..but the i5 2400+r9 280/380 will kill this in the same price segment all for not that 500w
Thanks for the video. What do you think i should do? Should i upgrade my am3 motherboard with a phenom ii x6 or x4, upgrade the 1333mhz ddr3 ram from 4 to 8, and replace my gt 430 to a gtx 750ti or should i go with this new cpu, 8ram, new motherboard ?
Is it better to upgrade my atlon 200ge to ryzen 3 2200g or buy a cheap video card on my atlon 200ge?
Imagine this apu release in 2010!